>MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVEhttps://www.youtube.com/live/BvvzZebZ5aI?t=13458sAaaand into the trash it goes.
it is tho
>>731362886>Morality was delivered to humanity by a deityinto the trash it goes
woke slop
garbage woke shit booooooooo
>>731363008Morality being relative triggers the christfags, even though they use moral relativism to defend Yahweh's actions in the OT by insisting that it was "a different time" kek.
they can't even make a statement like "killing dozens of shopkeepers for no raisin is evil"?
>>731363008>>731363339The point is that that's not how Fable does it
>>731362986Cool. Any hot white women you can date?It's cool if they're villains that are racist. Just as long as they're hot and white and hetero.
>>731363082If its still Fable youll be able to kill everyone/evict you dont like and keep whoever you actually like. Im less concerned with this and more concerned with what seems to be a lack of customization. Why have games regressed with this shit, why is every equipment selectiong going simpler, theres one fucking armour slot, you cant even make the character look how you want, they just change entire outfit.
>>731362986>>731363027>Medieval niggletsWhy?
>Fable back then: YOU CAN BE GOOD OR BAD!>Fable now: Geralt_monologue.wav
buy up all the houses and become a landlord! fuck you, you out of touch cunts
>>731364126Jews.
>>731363462Subjective, they can to die for the better good.
>>731363339That’s not what moral relativism means, that’s just context being necessary to determine if an action is good or bad. Moral relativism denies the existence of good and bad entirely.
>>731364278>buying the game to begin withLmao
>>731365138It's about the selective application of moral standards, actually, you can't claim that morality is objective while simultaneously making excuses for the evil actions of whatever deity you worship.
>>731364126>>731364368In previous games sometimes your kid was black.
>>731362886Even besides all the woke nonsense, this misunderstanding of Fable's morality alone tells me this game will be shit. Fable's morality was never about being actually good or evil, it was about the comedic fairytale aspect of it. Morality itself was second to the power fantasy of it. These nu-developers, who probably can't even bring themselves to believe in morality in the first place, are so intent on pushing their subversive political agenda that they just took the entire concept out of the game. Yes I'm mad.
>>731365767Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>731366604>Fable's morality was never about being actually good or evil,
this will be another saints row reboot situation
>>731367080As in the games were never engaged in some Nietzschean dialog about the nature of good and evil. Feeling like a fairytale hero or a moustache twirling villain was part of the game's charm. Grey morality does not belong in Fable.
>>731362886>be western dev>get IP about child fairytale story game>big inspiration of heroes and villains and storybook adventures>actually there is no good or evil>so we decided to ignore it>morality is subjective>heres our brown female protagonist as wellThese people are a fucking meme. Every time I think western devs cant get anymore retarded, they surprise me.
>>731365656Objective morality is not solely determined through revelation and as such, there are multiple philosophies that find objective morality using evidence entirely found within the natural world.
>>731363339morality is a religious concept, atheists talking about it like it means anything is what is weird. What triggers religious people is they pretend like they are moral people while not even believing in the concept.
>>731362886The Morality system in the old Fable games was always kind of shitty. You could either be a cross between Santa Claus and a clown, or you could be a cross between Ebenezer Scrooge, a murder hobo and a clown.
>>731364126>nigs were not invented untill after the medieval times
>>731362886They once again conflated "diversity" with "niggers"
Morality ultimately does not exist. It’s transient like laws and nations. Doesn’t matter.
>>731369932I'm not religious, and I'm triggered by atheists for their inherent dishonesty and unwarranted self-satisfaction.
>>731362886and this is going to be objectively shit
>>731362886"See! We were worried over nothing! Fable is saved!">Still a politically correct race and gender diverse fantasy world>Character creator won't allow characters to have big boobs>Even if it does for the player character. NPC female characters will still be plain at best and ugly at worst>Humor will be toned down and neutered compared to the original game>Political correctness means we won't be able to be as absurdly cruel and evil as we could in the original games>The Church/Main religion will be evil, like it is in every medieval fantasy setting made by billionaires>There will no doubt be missions about how 'racism and slavery bad' like we don't already know that.
>>731370850>>731369932>you kill someone>you get PTSD from watching them die>youbsuffer for the rest of your life because of thisNothing inherently religious about this, it's literally wired into almost everyone's brain to be uncomfortable with taking someone else's life.
>>731365138>Moral relativism denies the existence of good and bad entirely.I want highschool dropouts to leave
>>731370850Morality is bound in human biology and survival tactics. You would have to be brain damaged (inability to feel empathy at all) not to be compelled to some degree of morality. Saying morality doesn't exist is the puddle-deep ideation and conclusion that a teenager would make
>>731370619no one was importing them from africa hershel
>he doesn't gentrify bowerstone and raise rent until the blacks can't afford to live there anymorewhat kind of racist are you?
>>731370201The one advantage of the binary morality system of the original fable games was that if you wanted to you could be REALLY evil>you could betray your allies to seduce the evil lady>Also help her cover up the murder of her sister and first husband>You could sacrifice your own wife and child on a sacrificial altar to get in with the cult and get a major power boost.>You could torture prisoners of war in the spire to maintain your cover when you were infiltrating them>You could trick a husband into divorcing his wife, then kill the husband, and marry her to use her fortune to help fund the rebellion against your brother. >You could be a real dick and turn the orphanage into a brothel to get steady income to fund your army to defeat the CrawlerModern video games due to political correctness, wokeness, modern sensibilities whatever you want to call it. Don't allow you to be truly genuinely evil anymore.
>>731371460That's not morality you tard, you just aren't used to seeing people die having grown up in a Christian society. pre/early Christian societies watched people dying as a form of entertainment because the sense of good and evil that was instilled into you by religion was not yet established. What is strange is you simultaneously believe Christian morality is a higher form of being but also you think Christianity is arbitrary and stupid.
>>731371589The shit you losers come out with to deny God. Pseudo intellectual loser.
>>731371568Even if you don't believe in God or good or evil. I think from a pure entertainment value point of view. People are tired of the morally grey shit. Especially since we're living in rather morally grey times. Yahtzee Crowshaw basically says rather than 'good or evil' we're stuck with the choice of 'authoritatian or hippie' or 'fascists vs nutters'. And it's just as restricting when it comes to storytelling as it was when it was pure good vs pure evil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzN4XUzqSQE
>>731372228I never denied God
>>731362886Too bad beauty isn’t.
>>731371589Human biology and survival tactics compels you to rape your way across the planet while killing anyone who would threaten you or your genetic spawn. There is nothing about the law of the jungle that leads to any semblance of Christian morality that you seem to believe is innate.
>>731372350This is because atheist morality has no concept of good, they only have a concept of "evil" and that evil is the worst thing they can imagine which is Hitler. This means every choice of good vs evil boils down to Hitler vs anti Hitler.This is why its now always fascist vs not fascists.
>>731362886Who will buy this trash?
Fable is the epitome of a guilty pleasure series for me, because the games are all deeply flawed and I'm not sure I could call any of them good, but I've played through them multiple times.
>>731362886>No good or evil bar
>>731372372Morality comes from God. It can not be human, for humanity is flawed and chaotic. Every man can lie. Never take your morality from men. Morality is divine. That is why we respect it so much. Why we long to have the correct morals."Cursed is he who believes in men"
>>731362986I hope this is a placeholder
>>731367080Its a series where a stable has been you can be a complete monsters, but then donate enough money to the Temple of Avo and you can go right back to 100% good boy points again.
>>731372728So why are we in a society based on Christian morality right now? Why hasn't history been entirely comprised of raping and killing everyone and anyone, even though most societies have taken part in that? Why is it that the law of the jungle is so overbearing, yet many societies shun it to one degree or another? Most people don't rape and kill their family members and friends, but why not? Ever seen an interview with a psychopath where they're asked why they don't feel bad? They will give you a variation of "I don't care because no one cares about me"; that's an ethical value judgement. Even people who are incapable of feeling any guilt still have a shallow justification for why what they do is "right" as opposed to "wrong". When you say morality doesn't exist, you seem to be talking about Christian values, not the concept of morality itself. To say that morality doesn't exist, when seemingly everyone has some version of it, is too shallow a way to analyze it
>>731372130>pre/early Christian societies watched people dying as a form of entertainment because the sense of good and evil that was instilled into you by religion was not yet established.did you learn this at reddit university?
>>731363339>moral relativists telling me Im a bad person for stabbing them to death
>>731373294>Morality comes from GodI said it is bound in human biology and survival tactics, both of which would ultimately be derived from God. "Biology" does not mean "atheism"
>>731363339I defend Yahweh's actions in the OT by pointing at California.
>>731372130Public executions were a thing in the medieval era. It was always a spectacle, thinking that people who want to see criminals die horribly is evil then you're a coddled liberal. The current times are an exception of the rule in that regard.
>>731373294You are already cursed because all that shit you just wrote down was invented by dudes pretending to be god.
>>731373610>thinking that people who want to see criminals die horribly is evil if you think that people who want to see criminals die horribly are evil*
>>731362986>they
>have the option to marry and kill anyone you want>/v/ seethes nonstopwhy? no one forces you to make your character look like a mutt, no one forces you to fuck a nigger, just kill them if you want
>>731373783>murder niggers in the city>nigger cops come in infinite waves to kill youI wonder if it's going to work like it did in 1.
>there are than 1000 NPCs!>each of them has a daily routineClose enough, welcome back Radiant AI
>>731373783I don't want to have to look at an ocean of brownoids.
>>731362886ugly woke slop
>>731373960genocide them
>>731364126I love em.I LOVE them.
If they make the game more like Fable 1 and TLC, and with the good parts of 2 and 3, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
>>731362986>pinkmouth Stop it
>>731372728>Human biology and survival tactics compels you to rape your way across the planet while killing anyone who would threaten you or your genetic spawnWhat a load of bullshit. Where did you learn this? This is the dumbest thing I've read all week. Just a casual glance outside will entirely disprove you.
>>731362886game actually looks goodand i'm anti wokeshit but it's not because we see 1 black it's shet it's not like ac cuckdows where they shill the black mc
>>731373605I'm sorry for being aggressive. I thought you were different. You walk a fine line, though. You are smart. God wrote our DNA code like nerds write games.
>>731362886I instinctively KNOW that she has a big ass and for that, your game is boughted.
>>731373653Source?
>>731374408>I'm sorry for being aggressiveNo harm done, anon
>>731373351What do you think is the common element in pretty much every successful modern society? its that they are all religious, or at least they were in living memory. This becomes a chicken and egg situation of which came first, religious morality leading to the formation of large societies or some innate sense of morality in humans that generated modern society. Given there were huge spans of time where humans did not live in large societies and did infact rape, kill, steal and conquer in order to survive I'm inclined to believe there is something novel and external about religious concepts of good and evil.Outside of religion people cannot have morality because they cannot have any real sense of good and evil. your point about relative ethical judgements is just proving my point, without religion everything is relative and subjective which means it is completely meaningless, why is a psychopaths lack of morality and different from your "morality"? you both used the same framework to decide what is right.
>>731373460now explain to me what force stopped people killing each other for entertainment.
>>731362886They showed right after that people will react differently when you're rich, so morality is subjective in this aspect
>>731362886https://youtu.be/BvvzZebZ5aI?t=13553That is literally the plot of one of the episodes from Love, Death and Robots.Why don't the villagers just chop him up or throw the corpse into the sea?
>>731374621the rule of law managed by state-sanctioned violence
>>731362986I like her accent
>>731374510It's just that stated morality ultimately doesn't exist, but humans do appear to have had some version of it since day one, relativistic or not. Morality is a complicated question, as you're no doubt aware, so I just wanted to advise you not to make it sound like a simple one. Your argument does have merit, though I don't fully agree with it. I won't bother you further
>>731374302>Just a casual glance outside will entirely disprove you.says the retard living in a Christian fist world country. "step outside" to North Sentinel Island and tell them to listen to their innate sense of "morality" before they hunt you down.
>>731374510What's your argument here? Those smaller societies that raped, killed and stole were also religious.
>>731373194I like the third one because I like the setting of 'a fantasy setting going through an industrial revolution' . We hadn't really seen a setting like that at the time. Nowadays though with stuff like Mistborn and Arcane that sort of setting is super common.
>>731374621
>>731374732who wrote those laws and why did they write them you moron.
>>731372130This has been a thing in all societies for thousands of millions of years, you retard. This is why people used to think djinns existed, because if you killed someone, they would haunt you as a ghost.
>>731363339Witnessed
>>731374886They were religious or more accurately superstitious but they weren't moral. Morality as we understand it is a much newer concept.
Sorry but /v/ isn't going to trick me into ever defending a morality system. I always sucks ass. I don't need the game to tell me I did "le good or evil" just let me do it. half the time I would do something common sense and the morality system will tell me I did a no-no
Morality is just game theory
>>731362886snowflake much?
>>731374883You are a literal retard. Even on that island the natives are working in cooperation as a unified society. They don't rape wantonly, they protect their borders. A survival strategy that's way older than Christianity.
>>731362886I will not play your video game!
>>731362886why didn't they show the appearance changing?
>>731375203>Morality as we understand it is a much newer concept.Yeah, because culture shapes morality.
>>731375049yes, that is also a form of primitive religious morality and probably originates from a period within the last 2000 years, in an era of global religious formation and propagation. your claim that these impulses have been universal for millions of years requires more proof.
>>731375495yes because religion (a cultural institution) gave birth to the concept of morality, which does not exist outside that framework.
>>731362886>gooks and niggers everywhere in my white FableWho the fuck is actually excited for this crap? It looks decent otherwise but knowing how much they will shoehorn in lefty ideology makes me not even want to bother.
>>731375402yeah, they aren't moral people, they don't think killing is wrong and no matter how much you cry for them to listen to their non existent moral compass they will still murder you.
>>731375589This is factually untrue
>>731362886morality is based on world viewmorality systems work when a world view is shared between a majority of a populace in a given jurisdiction of morals enforcementthey empower the rights and wrongs through penalty and rewardreligion is a part creating a shared world viewbut its not necessary for morality or for shared world viewits how you get leftists acting like christian zealots about certain thingsbecause all that matters is the doctrine of the world view and its enforcement
>>731375589Religion is absolutely one of the things that has shaped morality in human history. You're correct. Like how human sacrifice was moral and good for the mesoamerican cultures or the rape and pillage of Jerusalem was moral and good because a pope decreed so.
I always find it funny how these people defend jewish spooks.2000 years later and long nose man still controls you>b-b-but le jesus is le DIFFERENT!!!!LOL
>brown charactersDropped. I want games with pretty White and Asian people and, if brown, fantasy brown. Not real world brown ugly bone structure.
>>731362886Looks ugly, boring and uninspired.Im going to skip this.
>>731375936and then within each religion those people have a tool to decide what is good or evil. Meanwhile, a non religious person has to hold to position that nobody is right and child sacrifice is neither good nor evil. Yet an atheist will declare morality is arbitrary and then also declare child sacrifice is evil.
>>731376184I'm pretty sure you can argue why murder is bad without religion. Actually I think it's easier to explain why it's okay to sacrifice children for the sake of religion than it is to explain why it's bad without religion
>TALK ABOUT MY GAME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WE NEED THIS DOGSHIT TO SEEL GIVE ME FREE ADVERTISEMENT AND ENGAGEMENTFucking cucks.
>>731375893now the question becomes what is necessary to produce societal functionalitywhat empowers a shared worldview to go to greater heights and create a better situation for those who pursue it?that is up for debate and is what the issue with subjective morality isit pits everyone against each other to try and use the same jursidiction for moral judgement according to their own world viewthis creates conflict and the inability of social cohesion to develop.this is where societies are torn apartit why religions focused on faith and obedience.
>>731373185Low IQ people
>>731376184Don't kid yourself. People make their moral judgements largely detached from religion. If religion truly did give a definite answer to ethical questions then why did the thirty years war or hussite revolution happen.
>>731376357No, its actually impossible to argue that child sacrifice is bad without religion. If someone superstitious was about to nuke you and said you have to sacrifice a kid in order to save millions it is then good to kill the kid. Only a religious person can say by default, killing children is evil.
>>731376613Sure you can, you can look at the animals and see them protect their youth and it lets them continue as a species, you can infer that protecting your youth works the same with humans
>>731362886>MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE
>>731376585This is easy for you to say when you live in a society that was still religious within living memory and has instilled its sense of morality into you. move to Liberia or the soviet union and and tell me atheists make better moral judgements.
>brown
>>731376752>evading the question with hypotheticals
>>731375520Indigenous tribes have been observed describing the same phenomenon from killing other tribes people. It's not a religious thing.
>>731376717you can also find animals who eat their own children, so which one is the correct way of behaving? you're just not accepting its all arbitrary until you buy into a religious code of good and evil yet you want to larp as if you are moral and believe in morality.
>>731376819You proposed a hypothetical statement that non religious people make better moral judgements than religious people, this is stupid because they don't even believe in morality. I then pointed you to non religious societies who predictably made shitty moral judgements and you now dodge and retreat to a statement you made with no proof.
>>731376897Which religion has it right then? Which denomination? You better have a pretty specific answer or it's all arbitrary, too.
Im excited this is still coming out. Looks good
>>731373308That UI's a bit messy. Why can't they remove it and let you figure it out for yourself by the reactions you get?
>>731376897pretty sure the Catholics forgive cannibalism if it's for survival purposes at least they did for the 1972 Andes plane crash survivors
>>731377012I asked you why did reformation wars happen if religion offers clears ethical guidelines. It's pretty embarrassing that you can't even read.
>>731362886Objective morality is the ultimate cuck philosophy cause you believe people who hate and want to kill you have to be treated honourably
>>731362886It certainly is. Fucking retard.
>>731369932It absolutely is not you braindead mongoloid.
>>731363082>modern new york nigress hairstyledroppedit all feels like Bioware game
>>731376717>continue as a speciesWhy is this something we "should" doNot that you can use that word
>>731377027The people who are right are the people who produce the most successful societies, which till this point in human history is Christianity, something you will notice about all successful societies is they fundamentally agree with Christian morality too.
Not thrilled about all the browns and chinky asians, but glad they folded and added a character creator of some sort
>>731362886Get fucked christcuck
>>731367080Did you not read his literal next sentence?
>>731377196You're a retard who doesn't even know how to distinguish between ethics and morality. Then you accuse me of not being able to read.
>>731377510well your instincts tell you to, your hairy ass ancestors who were banging rocks together without a concept of spoken language were fucking and multiplying. You would have to argue why this instinct is wrong
>>731371460Sheltered westoid cuckIf you were born as a sunni in syria you would be beheading kaffirs while laughing and filming yourself as you jizz your pants out of joy
>>731370201That's the fucking point. Go play somthing else
there is baseline set of moral principals necessary to create persistent continued human interaction which is necessary to create the context of morality in the first place.does morality exist if you never interact with other humans?
>>731377085I can say with absolute certainty there is no mainstream Christian denomination who would ever forgive you for killing and eating your own child in order to survive.
>>731377732well, forgive is maybe the wrong word since forgiveness is core to Christian belief, the better way to phrase it is none of them would ever say it was good or moral.
>religionfags killed /pol/ >religionfags are also on /v/ now Can mods create a containment board for these losers and retards?
>>731362886>MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVEYes, it is. Flipflopping about what is good and bad is even seen in politics and religion, where its all just a bunch of gymnastics to justify why its okay for YOU to be a bastard to someone else but bad if someone else does it to your side of the team sports game most people treat life as.
>>731362886It's DOA
>>731362986>Fancies you because your reputations generous
>>731371641Then they don't need to be imported in a fictional world, poojeet
>>731377996I knew the second they showed the ugly bitch MC years ago but today officially confirmed it all. I'll just wait for TES6 and LoTF2 and maybe dip again into FromSoft games.
>>731377928>morality doesn't exist>morality doesn't exist, I as a person who doesn't believe in morality can see in politics and religion that it doesn't existNo shit sherlock, you don't believe in morality, everyone already knows this when you tell them you aren't religious.
Mfw my gay race communism that professor shekelstein told me was heckin based and true says might makes right is wrong and not science
>>731378117thanks for reiterating my point retard
>>731378173There is no such thing as a moral standard which has persisted for longer than a single generation excepting Legalism, which agrees that humanity is fundamentally evil and can only be held to account through violence and punishment.
>>731377732>>731377920I'm sure you can kill your child in order to defend yourself and be forgiven
>>731378550I already addressed the fact that forgiveness is the wrong word when discussing morality, you can never do that and have a Christian tell you what you did was moral or good.by the very nature of having to be forgiven they have made the moral judgement that what you did was evil.
>>731378314I'm not going to argue with someone who openly admits they don't believe in morality beyond saying I would never want to live in a society where that was the majority belief. The context of this argument is atheists who pretend to not only believe in morality but believe themselves to be moral people.
>>731378962I mean it seems that context supersedes morality
>>731379130No, I simply have common sense to recognize real politick for what it is. There is no such thing as 'bad actors', just rational ones and irrational ones. You're either irrational or a liar; there's no other reason you'd pretend morals were ever real.
>>731379505Obviously it doesn't because there is no situation where you can violate a religious moral law and have them tell you it was good, your only way out is a subset who would forgive you which itself is a moral judgement.
>>731379702>and have them tell you it was gooddoes that matter when the point is the punishment of damnation which can be forgiven away based on if the subset subjectively believe if it's forgivable or not
>>731379669neither "common sense" nor "rationality" are core axioms that replace concepts of good and evil. What is common sense? (in Christian countries its fused with morality) what is rational? is it well reasoned opinions? reasoning based on what? science doesn't tell you what you should do, it only approximates what the state of the world is.
>>731378173>everyone already knows this when you tell them you aren't religious.Neither do the religious. You practice moral nihilism decorated as piety. If you were sent a divine edict from Yahweh to axe murder your child like Abraham to Isaac, you would do so without question because your "morality" is dictated not on principle, but "might makes right." Like everyone else whose morality is borrowed, whether by societal precept or legality. Morality is and always will be a fluctuating paradigm determinate of cultural zeitgeist and who has the power to enforce it.
>>731379985you've moved the goalposts to some completely arbitrary point about going to hell.
>>731380095Not really when your point is that it's impossible to think something is bad without religion because "what if you're forced to do it because of this situation"
>>731380072>your "morality" is dictated not on principle, but "might makes right."you might want to look into how Christianity spread from a strange cult to dominating rome and then the western world because it certainly wasn't jesus being an all powerful warlord.
>>731362886This is how Fable always was
>>731364124if you can genocide all the non Albion's I'll buy when it's on sale for a larf, I doubt you'll be able to do that though, might keep a few south islanders around to work on my farm if I can own/run one. Maybe I can breed them?
The worst part about this game isn't the morality system. It's the art style. Or rather, the complete and distinct lack thereof. Fable had soul and that came through in the aesthetic design of the world and characters within. This game is a soulless husk.
>>731375110could you not be a newfag for 2 seconds bitchlurk moar
>>731380000checked and, dare I say, based and redpilled
>>731377925permabans used to exist
>>731380497>it certainly wasn't jesus being an all powerful warlord.He does not need to be. He does not even need to exist. You only need the herd and government bodies to enforce it and drive out all opposition.
>get it on gamepass>play game>make all blacks homeless>get the "bad" ending even though "morality is subjective">refund gamepass
>>731381002yeah but who convinced all powerful governments and kings to bow to these weird peasants who had no power themselves? They were moved by their principles, unlike Islam which was as you describe a religion imposed by force and went on to generate a bunch of third world shitholes.
Objective morality is basically Batman not killing the Joker. The fact that Joker is more evil doesn't matter, a life is a life, and if Batman did it he would be objectively just like the random criminal who killed his parents.
Are there whores? I'm not playing unless I can marry a whore like I did in the other Fable games.Marrying whores is progressive, just ask iDubbbz
>>731381563you can marry anyone apparently. multiple people and have tons of children. which means it'll be shallow as fuck.
how do you even refute this?
>>731381810fairy tales ARE European history.
>>731381195>but who convinced all powerful governments and kings to bow to these weird peasants who had no power themselves?When a religion appeals to slave morality and governments see the perfect apparatus to weaponize institutional control - no one requires any "convincing." It writes itself. > unlike Islam The reason why products of Islam are third world shitholes (IQ deficiencies notwithstanding) is because they actually follow the Quran. Which is why they they are perpetually trapped in the bronze age. If Christianity did not evolve with its infinite cherry picking and historic revisionism, much like Yahweh ascending from the Israelite tribal war god to the one true God as revised in the Book of Isaiah, we would still be burning witches at the stake. Praying over people instead of making medical advances to treat them. Classifying mental illness as "demons" and "possession." We would be stoning disobedient children and culling our people for picking up rocks (read: going to work) on the Sabbath. Islam following an unyielding "objective morality" is exactly why it has only produced shithole civilizations. By contrast, most "Christians" do not actually follow the Bible or even read it.
>>731362886>Morality is subjectiveSo it's not a morality system, it's a reputation system.
>>731381810Wrong stance to take. Previous Fable games established that black people do exist in the setting... but not as natives of Albion. Garth, Whisper and Thunder were foreigners, so adding black people everywhere disregards earlier canon and cheapens the setting.
>>731362886Sorry for my repose, but I still haven't gotten a good answer:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fable_(2026_video_game)>Developer: Playground Gameshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playground_Games>Games developed: Forza Horizon 1 through 5The developer, whose only experience is making racing games, is going to be making a 3rd person medieval fantasy RPG? Would someone please explain? Any game developers in here? What the fuck is going on?
>>731382691you're not explaining why a king would subscribe to "slave morality" especially considering Nietzsche envisioned slave morality as a tool of the weak to overpower and control the strong through an inversion of what is good and evil. I would argue that Christians are more fundamentally aligned with their core beliefs than any other, at their own expense and to a degree that may have destroyed them. Had the Christian nations kept themselves Christian instead of fighting Jewish wars and importing billions of people who hate Christianity they would have gone on to convert the entire planet without force.
>>731381528take your retarded christcuckery and capeshit elsewhere
>>731381810Niggers are retarded, more news at 10.
>>731381897Fairy tales are from all over earth. A lot of them are from Ancient China.
>>731383364Criterion makes game engines, made a GOATed racing game IP, and made a FPS game that you guys jerk off to. Why is that weird? Polyphony Digital made a children's cartoon mascot racer, a car racing sim, a motorcycle riding sim, and a mecha shooter. Maybe you're just retarded when it comes to videogames?
>>731362886From a certain point of view toddlers are extremely dangerous terrorists.
christcucks will make an argument with a loaded question that is only answerable with a christian process and then masturbate at how smart they are. they have been horseshoed into being as obnoxious as redditors
>>731362886I would usually agree and had the same initial reaction, but they immediately justified it with the fact that different characters react differently to the same actions and reputations. In this case, it actually adds to the game, instead of just making it more generic.Used to be that shades of gray morality was the spice, but then it became so commonplace that black and white felt fresh, but when it comes to gameplay systems it's definitely more fun if it's more nuanced.Since they're using it for gameplay, I'm in favor of their take. Whole presentation was honestly very good, the negative reactions feel extra forced, like people were ready to start their new Shazamposting routine and are disappointed that it didn't suck.
>>731362886>play game>exclusively kill fags>get labeled a nazii think im sold
>>731362886Nigga Fable was always you engaging in tomfoolery.
>>731362886It looks like UE garbage.0% chance that is going to be good
>>731384286>Criterian>made a FPS gameWhich one?>Polyphony Digital>mecha shooter? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphony_Digital#As_Polyphony_Digital. Which one are you talking about?
>>731366636im sure you can find a screenshot just as easy as i can. there were also fags and jews in the games too.
>>731384693Criterion made Burnout and BlackPolyphony Digital made Gran Turismo and Omega BoostYes, videogame developers have range not just professionally but personally too.
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>>731384974Nice
>>731369932>morality is a religious conceptno, its a fundamental structure in human psychology. christkikes just slapped their name on it like they do everything. Basically "patented" it. Doesnt mean invented.
>>731362986gold digging cunt
>>731363339There is a non theistshit way to make morality objective. The philosophy is even so named for it's epistemic basis.German epistemology is quite literally the worst thing to ever happen to the world.
>>731372102yet they believe nothing is good or evil. weird shit
>>731385610This. Germany philosophically rules Europe. Germany rules China. Germany has been trying to rule America for centuries, and whenever the left is in power; does.Japan and not G*rmany getting nuked was a grave mistake. And I'll not talking about muh Nazis. Germans always deepthroated the boot before, during, and after Hitler. It never changed. Germany was always philosophically rotten.It producing both Marx and Hitler was not an accident.
>>731375797>protecting borders is immoral fuck you, fucking cunt wanker.
>>731381810they're correct on the whole as framed by the retarded initial seething post. but wrong in the specifics where albion was overwhelmingly white with nonwhites being foreigners in previous games
>>731362986>they think
>>731384635i think it's actually forza engine and they just decided to copy the soulless unreal tech demo look 1 for 1
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>>731381528Batman is a cartoon and Joker not being instantly merced is a contrivance of the story, for obvious reasons.You drawing anything ethically from it an embarrassment.People malign Superman but him not killing Lex at least makes a lick of sense. Even though he should, in fact, kill Lex.Batman not killing Joker is an absurdity from the jump. Exceptions that do not break the rule exist. Terrorists lose the designation of human. It's fucking easy.Batman is simply not allowed to conclude it.
>>731381528No nigga batman is a fuckign insane schizo that needs the clown to give some meaning to his entire vigilante bullshitery it's just that THE BATMAN doesn't break, he needs the clown to kill people to make him feel alive in the same way Japan needs AMERICAN HUGE COCK in their mouths after getting nuked twice.
>>731386351>only this one criminal is worth anythingif batman killed joker hed clean up gotjam much quicker and if restless he could move to a new city and batman it up there for a bit. nigger’s bruce wayne, he’s rich n shiiiet.
>>731386063do these white devs they show on showcases do anything?Raj and poojeeta obviously does all the work on these "games"
>>731386465I doubt it, Joker is a low tier villain that got put in the spotlight thanks to god tier movies and god tier games , but he's a shitter in the gotham universe. If batman wasn't a twisted broken psycho he'd nuke the shit out of gotham, just put the city out of it's misery.
>>731377081that kind of subtlety is out of place in the series where a failed quicktime event can make you shove an NPC's face into your ass and fart on them
>>731386351America is the moral exemplar of the world relatively speaking. It's pathetic traits are eclipsed by everyone else, and I do mean everyone, having even worse pathetic traits. And more of them.
The worst thing is that apparently Metropolis and Gotham exist at the same time on the same planet. Gotham is really just the a hellish shithole of that world lmao
>>731386814explain
>>731387380John Locke, in a name.
>>731387380Well it was 100% justified with no qualifiers in nuking Japan for one. And Japan consistently seeing reason after it is no vice on their part.If they continued to seethe about the nukes after the fact; THAT would be a vice. Are you saying you want them to?
>>731387416No i mean you are right but i don't see how it relates to batman and the joker.
>>731386593gonna have to disagree to agree me thinks
>>731369932>the mere concept of "being nice" or "being mean" did not exist until religion didjesus christ dude. if you're coping that "morality" is religious terminology, then no, it isn't
>>731387620Well I agree, it wasn't me that tied it to Batman and Joker now was it? >>731386351 did
>>731386469It's funny that you think the propaganda is pushed by Rashjeeh and he's not just collecting his fat Microsoft paycheck. They are the smart ones, they don't question the company's decisions and just play along the circus
>>731384257were there Africans in ancient china?
>>731381528No, even if you would be ignoring the fact that Batman has killed people. His no-kill rule only makes sense diegetically as a moral code he strictly lives by because he has the self-awareness to know that if he did it, he would see that many of villains, like the League of Assassins, were right and that him being an unstable insane man built on hyperfocus and optimization would ultimately have to incorporate it into his toolkit. Batman is not a normal person, he never really was. This is the only way him doing the whole "If I start killing, I'll become just like every killer I stop" makes sense. He's extremely autistic. HOWEVER, him going to great lengths to save Joker is already reached beyond comical levels of absurd that it destroys any semblance of his character. He should not be saving Joker from a rogue cop gunning him down what the fuck.
>>731387817nice and mean have nothing to do with good and evil you knuckle dragging monkey. when you affirm a tranny and help him chop his dick off you are being nice but you are not doing him any good. You cannot derive good and evil from subjective perceptions of nice and mean.
>>731383447>you're not explaining why a king would subscribe to "slave morality"I thought I was clear? Exercising it as a means of governance. Emperor Theodosius will be our example – who instituted Christianity as Rome’s state religion, enabling its pervasive proliferation in the Western world. The old pagan system prior to his rein was decentralized. Thus he mandated the Nicene Creed, instituting uniformity which made the masses far easier to control. You rebel against “God”, you rebel against him. Weaponizing slave morality is trivial: an act of master morality. "Slave morality" only applied to what he feared could judge him (God.) Which is why he repented after the Massacre of Thessalonica and subsequent ex-communication from the church. "Kings" can still be susceptible to dogma.>I would argue that Christians are more fundamentally aligned with their core beliefs than any otherI'm sure that has absolutely nothing to do with you being a Christian yourself, but I'm not here to argue your feelings.
>>731388530You completely ignored the fact that slave morality has nothing to do with imparting slave like behaviour on the masses, its the complete opposite and is about imparting slave like morality on kings. You are talking the literal definition of the words without understanding the underlying philosophy.I'm actually not religious at all.
>>731388514good and evil aren't religious concepts either dude, you just don't seem to get that morality is inherently human, not religious
>>731385610You have to realize that modern German philosophy developed because they were experiencing a historically nation-wide complex on not being a superpower like the other nations near them. They had to rationalize the world in the most atomized cynical way for them to bring their anxiety to comfort. Max Weber, a notable German sociologist, had to concoct something distinct about the emergence of the success of capitalism in Northern Europe through the lens of the historically ingrained Protestant work ethic of the people that lived there when technically the reverse was truer. People who tended to gravitate towards capitalistic tendencies also would adopt Christian, in this case Protestant, views as a religious social order. They were ultimately complimentary into building each other up. I still like Max Weber though and his book— The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism — with the annotated criticisms and him addressing them is one of the best books that I think should be inducted into the Western canon.
>there is character creation and you don't have to be a woman or a muttI will now buy your game. Why the fuck would they hurt the reputation of the game for so long by making it seem as if the ugly woman was the only option? Did they add character creaction because of the backlash?
>>731387865China must undergo Yasukefication.
>>731389091Someone with lots of pull most likely demanded that the front and center character be that woman.
>>731362986>>731363027>>731363082There isn't even this many black people in the modern USA, Christ. I think I celebrated the character creation a little too early.
Dead on Arrival game.Everything and everyone looks so ugly on purpose.
>>731362886Can I rape the black chick because I think it's morally good?
>>731380723>>could you not be a newfag for 2 seconds bitch >>lurk moar
>>731388838>You completely ignored the fact that slave morality has nothing to do with imparting slave like behaviour on the masses"No? I literally called it an act of master morality. You asked why a king would subscribe to it, and I articulated exactly why they would use it and that they are just as suspecitble to religious dogma as anyone else regardless of their standing. Religion is not rational and almost entirely feelings based. If a "King" believes Jesus is the "King of Kings", who is subservient to The Father - they too will be subordinate to that greater authority. It has nothing to do with principles and everything to do with fear of divine retribution. A God will make any "king" a slave.
>>731389021go away and think about this for 5 minutes. how do you define what is good? you cant do it beyond feels bad, feels good aka hedonism. Hedonism is not the basis of religious morality, which is the only morality the communicates anything beyond wishy washy shit that essentially admits it doesn't exist.
>>731389021Breathing in inherently human. We all gotta do it. There are plenty of amoral humans. It's strange because I know quite a lot of posters here rage about "moralfags" but yet you also want claim that you are moral too.
>>731388530Slave morality, when Nietzsche described it, only becomes detrimental to those at the agents of power that become held back by it (the eponymous "higher men"). They become more apprehensive to step on people's toes and to hurt people's feelings which becomes a strong emotional inhibiting factor in exercising their power for the pursuit of their higher value and the good that it brings.
I hope I can permanently kill all black and brown NPCs so that only Europeans remain.
>moralty>god>good>evil
>soulless UI>inexplicably diverse townsfolk in I medieval fantasy settingHardest of all hardpasses. What is the last good game that microcock produced?
>>731389297Before you use philosophical terms you should actually read what the terms mean. slave morality was not imposed on anyone it was proposed as a natural state of weak people building resentment towards strong people and attempting to control them. There is no control slave morality grants a king, anymore than white people spreading wokeism grants them control over black people.Your original argument was that slave morality was adopted and propagated because it was useful to those in power, I explained why it was the complete opposite and was only useful to the weak. You're essentially agreeing with me that kings adopted the values out of a respect for something beyond force or cynical control.
>called Albion>full of non whites
>>731362886>killing the giant nigger leaves a big stinking corpse just outside your town for the rest of the game>you can't do anything about the corpse>property cost will lower and villagers will start hating youutter garbage excuse for the player not to kill the giant nigger
>>731362886graphically this looks like a ps4 gamehow long has this shit been in the oven?
>>731370772I see a lot of Asians and Indian looking character too. I don't know if that's better or worse. The funny thing is these modern day developers in this video are less diverse than the characters in this middle aged setting.
>>731363339>Yahweh's actions in the OTBut Yahweh is a demon?
Blackrock keeps giving them all this money to develop AAA games nobody is going to buy. This is only way to explain how the industry has had money to pump out tens if not 100 games like this, when not a single good AAA game is ever being made anymore. Those behind this really, really do hate humanity, they must be demons or something.
>>731373736>>731386063It uses "they" and "them" for all the NPCs, so they're not non-binary shit or whatever. But they were too pussy to just use he and she depending on the NPC.
>>731387241it's Rangs of Power and Wheel of Troon all over again
>>731389819
>>731381810It's based on European fairy tales, European magic and European myth. Africa and Asia have their own fairy tales, why hijack ours?
>>731389307yes, morality is based on you feeling bad when someone murdered your father and someone felt bad when you took revenge so they agreed to not murder anyone else. thats how morality came about.
>>731389819I'm still killing the giant mutt. Make a giant example out of him that Albion is for whites only.
>>731389846>ovenjust say development. puns or whatever are gay and american.
>>731375893Read Crime and Punishment, thanks.
YT people, I feel for you. They playing dirty
>>731390348>puns
>>731374102>genocide them>99% of the npc population is now goneI mean sure you can do it but then the world is empty.
>>731390420they owned slaves yt deserve it
>>731389819>Did you notice a sign in front of my house that said giant dead nigger storage?
>>731369932reminder that your holy book is not as old as you claim and it mostly rips off pagan Greeks
>>731389641>There is no control slave morality grants a king,This is patently untrue when it is weaponized by a king under subjects who already subscribe to it. Which is why Theodosius was my example. Christians were persecuted before his reign, so galvanizing resentment to usurp the old system was simple. >Your original argument was that slave morality was adopted and propagated because it was useful to those in power,Yes, and I still hold that position in the context to that argument. >You're essentially agreeing with me that kings adopted the values out of a respect for something beyond force or cynical control.I never said it was just "cynical control." Some genuinely believed it. Even in my example. But control and centralization is always a motive.
>>731390243And yet it feels good to have revenge and it feels bad to forgive someone who ruined your life so it doesn't explain how this developed into morality instead of worshipping strength and ensuring you kill everyone before they fight back.
>MC has Black bloodThis is beyond a fucking joke
>>731390420That stupid ass UI reminds me of pic related and I can't stop laughing.
>>731390530
>>731390420>merchant doesn't like you because you're richUnrealistic.
>>731390298this shit makes me cringe so hard. it just looks so fucking stupid. it would be slightly more tolerable if they looked super african or something, like whisper and her brother in Fable 1. fucking ruins the immersion when characters just look like modern US.
>>731362886>graphics get "better">exclusively model unfuckable goblinasI'll never understand this mindset
>>731390614Totally unrealistic now back to shooting fireballs out of my ass....Anyway might and magic games did the same shit and were better games too
>>731390639Sorry anon, if you could fap to one of the characters, Jason Schreier would have a fit and we wouldnt want that now would we?????
>>731390424>or whateveryea, english is my second language.cacha bant!
>>731390420>>731390420>rich twattheres no way they say rich twat. twat isnt anything, its just a word.
>>731362886Looks better with her mouth closed. What was up with the choice to give her that small tooth that fucks her smile up?
>>731362886>Reputation= rich>First NPC interaction is "I get it you are rich"This feels lazy, it should've been something like a merchant showing me more expensive items since he knows I have the money to buy them
>hire a blm activist to make a game>everyone has they/them pronouns>everyone is black>doesn't understand the original appeal of Fable's morality system>none of the original creators of Fable were contacted for inputThis is as soulless as it gets. May as well tell everyone that we can become landlords in the metaverse using Solana.
>>731390870I'm genuinely amazed that they held back from having the NPC say something about eating you
>>731365138>Moral relativism denies the existence of good and bad entirely.No, that is moral nihilism. Relativism entails morality being determined by the context in which it is used in.
>>731390562Yes it does. Killing everyone you come across is a good way to get killed yourself. Animals don't just indiscriminately kill every other member of their species either. It's a far better and more successful strategy to cooperate with your neighbors and utilize violence only if need be. This of course creates the safety and complex social structure needed to form religion, and a pope who will then tell you to go wipe out another tribe for being blasphemers so you can take their land lol
>>731363082Albion already had black&white people like Whisper and her father. If Saar randomly pops up with Migual down the street from Kamir's halal stand THEN we'll see. My only complaint is cooldown slop, seriously using that same 4-point diamond format; don't be surprised if that aspect seems oddly similar to Hogwarts Legacy.> plebs don't know the satisfaction of chugging dozens of mana potions to make Physical Shield nigh-permanent or looping hero saves to give a legendary frying pan and master ranged weapon all mana augmentation to give yourself infinite LV4 chain lightning.Unlimited.Fucking.Power.
>>731391267>Albion already had black&white people like Whisper and her fatherIt was her brother and they stood out so hard precisely because Albion didn't have blacks. They were not from Albion you disingenuous kike.
>>731378117They literally do. Do you know how population genetics work? They form from isolation, not co-mingling.
What's fucking wrong with western devs
>>731389091Honestly fucking insane that the game is out in like six months and they're JUST NOW confirming that no, they haven't taken three steps back and yes, there is character customization. I honestly want to be interested in this Fable because I liked the previous games so much (as foolhardy as that is) but they're giving us so little to go off of.
>>731391629so fucking much
I always get baffled when Christians try to take the conversation when it comes to morality I was watching an instagram reel the other day. A Charlie Kirk kinda guy, the kind of conservative who goes to college campuses and sets up a stand to publicly debate students, was in a heated argument with some dumb chinese girl. He was arguing that if she sees abortion as a morally permissible act, then there is little reason for her to not support the killing of infant newborns. She got a vivid reaction from him when she told him that she thinks killing babies isn’t a universally terrible action and mentioned that some Asian civilizations used to kill off their babies when famine struckHe was rightfully disgusted at the idea that killing a baby could be acceptable in any way, but I’m sure he would get nervous if you bring up the passages where Israelites were commanded to spear Amalek children and infants and thus by his system, the slaughter of infants is, just as that chinese woman said, isn’t always strictly evilYeah, yeah, sure. The country had 800 years of bestiality and human sacrifice. I’m sure that justifies putting blades into babies in total war
>>731391065The point is that people would eventually worship power because that is what feels best and so the greatest "good" and also puts you in a position to avoid what feels bad. The adoption of a counter intuitive successful strategy over time points to an evolutionary/ survival of the fittest development, which then goes back to the question of what comes first, religious morality that encourages co-operation or co-operation that encourages religious morality.
>>731362986>pants
>>731391960You aren't arguing against the Christian view of morality though, you are just admitting the Chinese are amoral people who could and would justify anything as good depending on the situation, therefore they don't believe in good or evil they believe in utilitarianism. utilitarianism has no concept of good or evil beyond suffering and pleasure which are also subjective and meaningless.communism is a good example of why "for the greater good" can lead to abhorrent outcomes and massive amounts of suffering.
>>731391748How are these freaks getting jobs?
>>731391960You cannot bring up Old Testament as dogma Christians follow due to the New Testament basically recanonizing it along Church catechism. It's why it's so bizarre when people decry or even other Christians get shocked that Christians don't celebrate the Sabbath. Of course they don't. That's Old Jewish law that Jesus abolished. Their day of worship is on Sunday, which is the Lord's day, a fulfillment of many Old Testament prophecies and practices, including the Sabbath which has long been superseded.
>>731362886>ugly artstyle>Dei>Janky as shit>souls combat>magic seems to be basic and suck ass compared to the first gameseems like compelte shit
>>731392523it's the only way of getting a job these days if you're not an actual woman or black or a pajeet
This will save Xbox — statements said by the utterly deranged devs and management behind this
>>731391960I'm not a christgoy, but wouldn't aborting a baby before it has the chance to sin be a good thing?
don't care. wishlisted on Steam
Wasn’t Fable always pushing faggotry? Same dev had a shit fit over muh black female lesbian not being on the cover of fable 3 in 2010
>>731392737I'm not a Christian either but I assume the logic is that If God cared more about humans never sinning than them even existing he would never have created them in the first place. You then need to ask them why they think god created people which is probably about an exchange of love or something.Within their own ideology it makes sense.
>>731391960I think everyone technically knows that killing an unborn human being still counts as killing a human being. The one thing that pro-choice people need to understand is that that's not the point they should be discussing, that's just a social norm they can never subvert or shake off because it bears more truth than it being false. They have to accept that yes, murder of the unborn child is okay since it would heavily inconvenience and dampen the life when brought to fruition. The whole "clump of cells" argument or "why are you anthropomorphizing bodily tissue" is so ludicrously bad because that technically what even humans are at its most cynical level. They should've just argued about the social and economic factors of rearing a child.
>>731392876>Same devcompletely different dev team
>>731392952Then it’s honestly the most well respecting sequel I’ve seen. If Fable 4 came out in 2016 instead of being cancelled it would’ve been exactly this. Lion head fags were woke from day 1
>>731392737All of humanity is born with ORIGINAL sin they inherited from Adam and Eve for their fall. Christians believe that life begins at conception for the human, and with it, their soul in infused into the human being. This is how most Christians resolved that human beings are brought into this world all equally flawed due to their capacity to sin but through the human condition and spirit have the capacity to fulfill their righteous place in Heaven (the redemptive aspect of following Christ's teaching via grace.)
It just looks ugly and generic. Really no different than a majority of AAA dogshit like The Witcher 3 or Starfield or Veilguard now.
>>731391267it's Nu4chan this is all they know how to do>'AHH A BLACK PERSON'>'AHH A WOMAN">>731391409how the fuck does it being a family member make her not black you fucking retard?
>>731391960frog
Only one of two things can be true:1- morality is objective and derived from God 2- morality is a social construct and doesn't exist independent of the mind
>>731392554Jesus never declares Sunday the new day of worship nor does the Bible. It is literally just mandate from after the apostles based on Jesus raising from the dead on the first day of the week.
So uh do we have any gameplay?Can we do >Stops time>Teleports behind you>Slashes you 4 times in 1 stroke Like in the original?
>>731393764Kierkegaard proposed both can be true. If you believe in God, that is your moral framework to move through life personally. If you don't believe in God, your moral axioms still have to lead you through your life purposefully rather than always chasing for purpose. He argued that the most important truths are those that are personally adopted and lived out, not just objective facts that are known.
>>731364124>what seems to be a lack of customization. Why have games regressed with this shitBecause all of you niggers keep going on about graphical fidelity over substance so they use systems that allow detailed models and terrain but have zero customization and interactivity. If people actually wanted to play games instead of look at pretty pictures and/or watch movies, we'd return to substance over style
>>731393965Hence I also included catechism, a controversial subject for some denominations.
>>731394229You're posting in /v/. The board that is notorious for liking games that don't have the best graphical fidelity especially when it comes to JP games. Most of the graphicfags you see posting in this board are shitposts or are more about optimization.
>>731369932>morality is a religious conceptmorality is a philosophical concept you fucking retard
>>731373783>>731374102the game should default to "historical immersion mode" where it's only white people and then if the goybox scanner detects you are a nigger by how much peanut butter you invented that week it can turn on "current year immersion mode" where it's just like current year in any previously White nation
>>731385610>There is a non theistshit way to make morality objective. No there isn't. With what? A subjective philosophical stance?
>>731394704ThisReal gamers happy, shitskin bioweapons happy, J-Corpo maximizes profits - what's there to lose?
>>731394704>imagedebunked and >>>/pol/
>>731362886>MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE>Landlord bad>Rich bad>Generous good>Homeless bad>Kicking chickens funnyIt looks all so generic, static and binary.
>>731378117then how do they exist?
I was hoping to read something about the game here but it's literally all third-worlders spewing how much they hate Western values etc, AGAIN. Please stick to your gacha threads.
>>731377928>truth isn't real because error exists and people aren't nicedid you just blow in from stupid town?
Im not british so I dont have native understanding of their reality but what exactly do the these people get out of putting niggers into their gamesSomeone whose mood improves by seeing more niggers in their lives please explain
ITT /v/ coping hard fable won and doomposting lost.
>>731395631rothschilds + their impotent influencer slaves like seeing niggers in their potential opposition's living spaces and media because they know it will demoralize them and prevent them form forming unity against their tyranny
>>731381528batman has nothing to do with objective morality.batman has a nonlethal policy because the US government criminalized glorification of vigilante murder in comics. before then he shot people with a gun.
>>731395690It's not a real fable game because it's not on the original xbox. You must feel incredibly stupid now, and small. Yes against xbox, everything is small.
>>731384257Are these based on chinese fairytales?
>>731394550this is a meaningless correction you pedantic moron.
>>731362986Holy fucking shit, how many fonts do you need?
>>731394704>tommy robinsonReminder that his real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-LennonWhy does he hide his real name? reminds me of that comedian, Jonathon Leibowitz.
>>731395690>ITT /v/ coping hard veilguard won and doomposting lost.>six months lateroh...
Reminder that bots are the faggots trying to make this about race so the real issue can be ignored, this new Fable is uninspired as shit. Its a copout modern "game" that avoids any real effort into the product with more soulless realistic shit and dogshit modern combat that's in every other game for the past 15 years. The magic shown only proves it because nothing looks fucking interesting. Literally secondary newfaggots and bots are going to tell me this game is ugly only because there are blacks even though Whisper is one of the first people you meet in the first game (she was a cunt).
>>731392876In Fable 1, if you're handsome and famous, there will be male NPCs who will flirt with you. You can then marry the NPC. However, the cutscene that plays will always be the hero kissing a bride. There is also no named NPCs or unique gay NPCs, only generic ones. To make yourself uglier, you can cross-dress. Instead of NPCs flirting with you, they will instead point and laugh because you're a tranny.Fable 2 had 1 woke quest though. You can help a retired sheriff find a girlfriend for his son. His son reveals to you in secret that he's a fag. You get good points for helping him get crusted and evil points for finding him a girlfriend. In the case of the former, his dad is a bit taken back by the gay relationship, but says he loves his son no matter what.Fable 2 also pokes fun at trannies, but at the end of the game, there is a secret potion that gives you a sex change. The potion is even shaped like a cock. It was edgy 2008 humor, but today it's just cringe. Literally called, "Potion of Transmogrification". The only upside is that it's still a tranny joke. If you show off your tranny potion, NPCs act disgusted. There's also a mentally ill man in the game who reveals he's a cross-dresser before attacking you.
>>731396156yobby thuginson has a better ring
>>731393764>>731394194Morality cannot be objective and derived from GodGod explicitly legalized chattel slavery in Leviticus. He never talked about slavery ever being bad afterwards. So is slavery objectively not immoral? Or is God’s morality not objective, merely conditional and he changes his mind based on social norms?There is no modern theologian who can refute this btw
>>731395773nu-uh Batman killed some people but he wasnt a punisher type of character
Aren't you guys supposed to be doing nothing when there's a game you don't care about? Having thread after thread complaining about is not nothing.
I miss xbox. Do you guys miss when you could buy xbox, and you knew you were playing better games than gaycuber or pissasstation 2 owners did? Yeah those were the times, and all those slurs you'd hear on xbox live.. there's nothing more natural that going from goldeneye/perfect dark -> xbox live FPS gamesYou zoomzooms wont even know what I'm talking about, because you've been playing fortnite for an entire decade
>>731394393>You're posting in /v/. The board that is notorious for liking games
>>731373308>Your reputations generous>Your reputations>reputationsConfirmed ESL jeets were used heavily in the making of this game. Even a programmer would have caught this grammatical error if they were a native English speaker.
>>731396343speech is not actiontypical low iq redditoid
>>731362986is this a weg?
>>731373882>The routines were generated by AI!
>>731396223There was also a quest in Fable 1 where you had to dress up as a woman and fuck some old guy who owns a bordello in order to get the deed from him. You would then choose to either keep the bordello open or turn it into a sanctuary for women.
>>731373783>game is full of diversity>but no one forced YOU to be diversewon't be playing>>731374102don't want to.want to see happy places where i'd belong.
>>731392939Except a clump of cells isn't sapient or sentient. That's the distinction between a unborn embryo or a non-late term fetus vs a living human being. What I don't understand is how most anti abortion people are the same people who defend castle doctrine/stand your ground laws and would justify killing tresspassers, when a fetus is something litterally occupying someone's body>b-but a fetus is invited in via consenual sex usually!And plenty of people who are anti abortion would still insist they should have a right to shoot somebody they invited into their home if they then refused to leave
>>731396217>be fable 1>have niggers and women>all of them can be killed during the main story>be fable 4>have niggers and trannies>none of them can be killed during the main storyYou just know that's how it is. All of these, "erm it was always woke" fags don't know what they're talking about. There was no agenda being pushed. Fags and nigs are always the untouchable good guys in modern games. It's usually the evil white man who plays the villain.
>>731396217Ngl as annoying as she was I'm still surprised you couldn't romance Whisper
>>731396393You can have more than one possible reputation flag, which is why it's written that way. It was simply laziness to not differentiate between plural and singular.Your inability to deduce this reeks of ESL or underage on your part.
>>731396501What do you mean “none of them can be killed” you can kill the fucking giant and they show that at the end of the trailer The chuds are really struggling to come up with good arguments for this one
>>731391748>troon out>can't be bothered to shave your fucking arms
>>731363339Why do you think youre being clever when you dont even get his name right? Like its some epic mic drop moment. His name is Yahou'Ah not Yahweh.
>>731396556>Fable never had black and brown people!>O-oh well Fable 1 had black people snd 2 had Romanians but you could kill them!>Oh you can kill the giant? UhhhhWhere does the goalpost move now?
>>731390546Wrong. 1 Enoch is a real preflood book meaning the core concepts are not rip offs of later religions.
>>731376148>if brown, fantasy brown. Not real world brown ugly bone structure.This nigga gets it, holy shit. Even the most hood nigga imaginable prefers fantasy brown to IRL negress brown.
I'll take any shade for brown as long as they're attractive.
>>731374480Most of the Bible was written by some fucking loser named Paul is the source, you bum.
>>731396632Something retarded like “yeah you can kill them but it’s evil” even though executing Whisper was an objectively evil action and killing the Romanians is also an objectively evil action The Right doesn’t actually play games, their outrage exposed them
>>731373123I agree somewhat but they usually land on friendship teamwork being objectively good even if shallow.
>>731374621I know! The magical sky jew that also commanded genocides!
that guy from the IT crowd as the giant was so immersion breaking and somewhat cringe tooI get it's supposed to be a gimmick but... just kinda weird. Like it's the only slightly notable thing about what was shown.
>>731363008nope
>>731396556>kill a nigger>everyone hates you>real estate prices crash>his body remains there for the rest of the gameWho is this nigger, George Floyd? I should be able to kill every single nigger and tranny in the entire game. You really don't think there is an agenda being pushed? When you kill Whisper, you get rewarded gold and no one mentions it besides random NPC babble. It's not like you kill whisper and the game reminds you of it 24/7 and tanks your economy.
>>731396667>>731373609>>731372228
>>731373605YHWH isn't real if evolution is. And evolution was proven a thousand times over
>>731397082They don't contradict though
>>731397025Jesus was a Jewish apostate
>>731393358I'm not going to answer you, I'm just going to leave you with it until you're able to figure out why you are a moron.
>>731397103Protestants have done unsalvagable damage to Christianity as a whole
>>731367857>Plays tainted grail fall of AvalonEveryone knows the moral choice is to side with our once and future king. Of course it was poles that made the game
>>731396990And there it is. Even though in Fable 1, killing Whisper was considered objectively evil by the game and there is no objective morality in this Fable, only reputation
>>731397317Yeah because murder is evil. You're still missing the point.
>>731397082>evolution was proven>no proof whatsoever
>>731396497>Except a clump of cells isn't sapient or sentient.why treat sentience as important?>would justify killing tresspassers, when a fetus is something litterally occupying someone's body>doesn't understand contexthumans are territorial.humans are viviparous.getting in the way of either is unjustified
>>731397317It was evil, yeah. Being evil wasn't plainly disincentivised though. There were reasons both for and against killing Whisper. It didn't screw you over forever.
>>731396549It doesn't make sense even in the context of multiple reputations. Instead of picking one, the other, or coding something dynamic...your employers went with something that will never work lmao.>They fancy you because your reputation includes: bald, jewI came up with this in 2 seconds, but there are many other ways to craft a scaffold that works for one or more reputations without being grammatically retarded. But at least you are right that it was lazy.
fable was never good
>>731397680Fable and Fable 2 were great, fag
>>731397103If a man is created, then he cannot evolve.
>>731362886Are we all going to pretend that Fable was ever "good". Why are we surprised that this looks bad.
>>731397369i hate these people but i still believe that autistic earthbound creatures are subhuman. That retard can become unretarded, someone who's autistic will always be a detriment to humanity
>>731362886Exactly. Who are you to tell me it's wrong to fuck a little girl with my hung cock? Trans male, btw.
>>731363008That might get you a B+ in sociology but your statement is incorrect.
>>731397594Yet another goalpost move>yeah it was evil but it didn’t screw you over You get worse prices at regular stores or people will outright not trade with you, people are afraid of you, guards watch you more closely This game will probably do the same shit if you go around killing everyone regardless of their race
>>731363339Not really.
>>731397789Why not?
>>731363339Yep>why did God legalize slavery>because it was normal for the time >so God isn’t objectively moral, he surrenders to social norms, making morality socially constructed >….2000 years and they have no response. Lmfao
>>731397789Evolution is a form of creation.
>>731362886The bigger sin is that they're still doing invisible ramp stairs where the character just slides up them instead of placing their feet naturally
>>731396283Slavery is like killing.
>>731362886WOKE WOKE BOOOO POO POO WOKE WOOOOOOOOOOKE
Imagine playing this woke slop lol. It looks like straight up fag shit. Execute these devs.
>>731363339Why would it trigger them? That fucking vindicates them if you ever took the time to read the bible.
>>731362886so is apparently beauty
>>731362886>40112 You can see them living that lifeOh, Oblivion...
>>731397964>God legalized it because it was normalThat didn't happen though
>>731398083Your boyfriend is lonely.
>>731362986more like rosamund the nigger GEEEEEEEEG
>>731397964Even worse >if God surrenders to social norms why did he defy other norms? He demanded monotheism, mass circumcision and the Seder laws. He demanded the Hebrews get rid of all their idols. Why was he willing to defy social norms there, but not slavery?
How is morality objective
>>731398136Then why did God legalize it? Will you use the progressive revelation cope? Because there are massive holes with that argument too
>>731377660>still evading the question
>>731362886Who caresYou can have Peace or you can have MoralsBut you can never have a moral peace.
>>731369932Morality is a function of God's character and living will. Most of the replies to this post are pseud seethe by people who>claim to have scientifically mastered the concept of morality despite it's alleged fluidity>think morality is about "being nice">are inexplicably conditioned to slander Christianity in ways that have nothing to do with the topic at hand and are generally inaccurate>>731397082>And evolution was proven a thousand times overNot really. But do tell us the one about the whale and the cow again for a laugh.
>>731398382See>>731397964Why did God legalize slavery? You have no answer for this, lmfao
>>731381810Do those particularly look like the setting is based on african or asian fairytales hmm?
>>731397206Maybe you think the world would be more Christian if some "pope" were still going around calling himself world emperor, but alas.
>>731365138Nah you literally are retarded.
>>731397446You mean you don’t believe that a wolf-like population turned into a whale after many many many many years? But we have so much evidence like um, some extinct canid family bones found near the ocean and um bones of an extinct ape that kinda looked like a human, that mean he was our great ancestor.
>>731397082>YHWH isn't real if evolution isThat has nothing to do with one another.but yeah god isn't real, god is probably nature or the universe, both things have no conscience and don't masturbate to anime girls. Our lifes have no value at all, and that's a good thing.
>>731362886Who is this guy?
>>731398437God told the Israelites to destroy the Canaanites and not take them as slaves. They disobeyed Him and He let reciprocity play out on them for that. What's your next epic debunk?
>>731398726The wokeman woke wokingston the third
>>731399027Does he start dinner table conversations with "So I'm nonbinary"?
>>731399013What kind of retarded argument is this?>uh yeah God opposed slavery because he told the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites not take any as slavesGod also allowed the Israelites to enslave Midiniate girls in Numbers 31 and take them as sex slaves Your point helps my argument, God does not see slavery as objectively wrong, it is only conditionally wrong
>>731397964Fine, I'll argue theology on a shitty Fable thread on /v/.Slavery is necessary for society, but not moral. You're talking about a time before the industrial revolution, and there isn't a single civilization that didn't benefit from slavery. The bible doesn't make slavery moral, because clearly 80% of the old testament is about Moses and freeing jewish slaves. What you're referring to is a quote in Leviticus where jewish law said servants must obey their masters. That's not an endorsement of slavery, that's just saying if you are a slave, you have to accept the shitty deck you've been dealt. You're a modern twink. You have to really put yourself in the shoes of the historical time. Every lord had servants. Liberalism was born out of an abundance of resources that societies did not have back then. Most societies were feudal, so the majority of the people were basically sharecropping servants. The verses were extremely relatable to people of the time. The bible sticks up for slaves by saying they have rights too, such as giving them 1 day of rest and letting them celebrate holidays. Most societies couldn't function without slavery, so the slavery would have happened regardless. The Bible came along and made sure the slaves had better lives. It never endorses slavery.
>>731397948>>731398054Because the homo sapiens didn't stop evolving? Everything that has an "end of history" arc depends on a man being in its final form. Whether it is abrahamic drivel OG or abrahamic drivels+ (marxism)
>>7313641261) It's not Medieval, it's Fantasy2) They've been in the series since Day 1
>>731362886Morals can not be objective. It's literally impossible.. Even if you take the christian stance on it. They just call it objective, but what they are actually talking about, are morals that are subjective to their god.
>>731398709Do you understand that created things were not a product of evolution?
>>731399218They were THO, universe exploded into existence, fish out of water,fish becomes human, human creates things, human dies, universe ends.
>>731362886Sounds pretty neat, like an expansion on Fable 2, where there was already things like Purity/Corruption alongside Good/Evil, and some other personality modifiers. Granted, I understand a lot of you haven't actually played these games and have just latched on to Fable to be all upsetti spaghetti
>>731399145>Slavery is necessary but not moral Why didn’t God recreate the world so slavery wasn’t necessary? He was willing to flood the entire planet >Because Moses freed the Jewish slaves That’s worse, because if you actually read Exodus it explicitly says there were non-Hebrew slaves. However, God allows their firstborns to die with the final plague, and also lets them die with the hail and lightning plague, as the text explicitly mentions that other slaves who were forced to work in the fields, died. Even worse, God explicitly mentions that he could change his plagues to only target specific people, hence why the Hebrews weren’t harmed.So if God actually cared about slavery, why didn’t he just snap his fingers and rescue all the slaves, not just the Hebrews? Because he didn’t give a shit about slavery, he was willing to use the other slaves as a disposable means to an end >LeviticusNope. He explicitly says in Leviticus 25:44-46 “ Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves” that is by definition chattel slavery >Every Lord has servants God didn’t just talk about servants, he explicitly mentioned slaves. Plus, he could just remake reality to however he wishes anyways. Unless you’re saying God is limited by the society of the time?
>>731396223>pol is so obsessed with trannies they are injecting them into games that just had crossdressinggod thats so grim
>>731399281> universe exploded into existenceWhy are you affirming the theory of a Catholic priest that pre-supposes God in order to actually be valid? The big bang is not coherent without an uncreated creator, as you would be saying that something came from nothing therefore denying the laws of the conservation of matter and energy.
The weird kid at my school was completely obessesed with fable before it came out, like, completely obsessed and talked only about it for MONTHS. when it came out and flopped he got bullied so hard about it he changed schools. kinda feel bad for him, wonder where he ended up
>>731362986Why does she literally look like the default girl character lmao lazy fucks
I'll not play simply because your good or evil actions don't change your appearence. This is Dead Rising 4 level of change.
>>731399474crazy there are time travelers from the future hereunderageb& tho
>>731373783Because all the npcs are mutts
>>731399438>something came from nothingYou do realize that's not what the big bang theory actually say, right?...Right?That's an extreme simplification to make it understandable for simpletons.
>>731399362What's the point if it doesn't change your appearence.
>>731373783>no one forces you to make your character look like a muttSource on this? Because the all the mc's shown, are mutts.
>>731389819God you're such a fag. Like you're not even good at being a racist fantasy fan, it's insulting. Like, someone that's actually read fantasy works and so on could immediately draw a parallel to something like Ryuu to Yuusha to Haitatsunin, which showed in its earliest chapters that killing a giant dragon and harvesting its corpse is a huge process that involves people from all industries both profiting off of and supporting the operation, with the process being so extensive and lucrative both before and after the kill that entire towns are founded around it.So then, looping back to Fable, if you were a proper racist fantasy fan, you could joke about how a dead nigger is the exact opposite: they provide no value, industries hate them, and they smell fucking awful as the existing town is slowly decayed by it. You would revel in snide remarks this would provide you, but that's the thing: you don't actually give a shit about this media and you're all flash and no substance, so you can't do anything except just whine and whine on the surface level.
>>731397964my favorite one is the >if you rape a woman and get away with it, no biggie lmao>BUT IF YOUR CAUGHT, YOU...must pay a fine to her family and shes forced to marry youthis was okay according to god at the time. god was cool with this. lol. you get to heaven and hes like "yeah i saw that, butttttt no one down there did. anyways meet billy, hes the husband of the woman you rape-ooooh awkward, your both in heaven, oof"
>>731399438The big bang didn't start as energy, it started as a singularity, also gravity. Look dude it is complex.
>>731362986These devs make games for themselves. nobody else will pay for this.
>>731399115Frankly, you don't know what God thinks and it's becoming apparent that you are blissfully unaware of how non-serious your argument really is. You're making litigious excuses as to why you think you're more well-adjusted than God as if anybody will ever believe that about you. Furthermore, it's like you think the old Israelites did well in the sight of God and that His judgment is going to be congratulatory of what they did. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding on your part about scripture and what happens in it.
>>731369932Morality is a school of philosophy, it predates every extant organised religion today by at least a thousand years and is still actively taught at the university level
>>731399529bruh
>>731362886Didn't this get cancelled?
>>731399720>extant organised religionYeah, nice qualifier. The first observations of morality are of the commandments though.
>>731373783It's because /v/ is banking on it flopping, so they have to paint it as>it's full of wokeslop characters, no one is going to play it, that is why it failswhereas, if it turns out to be a megasuccess (e.g. Baldur's Gate 3), they'll pivot to>it's full of wokeslop characters, and I can kill them all, that is why it succeededIt's a genuine speculator's market, but like actually: because how they attempt to shape the narrative and farm (You)s then determines the kind of screencaps that will be cultivated, which these shitstirrers will take back and post to twitter in an attempt to make money. If you ever wonder why the hate for a game is forced, misplaced, or contradicts basic knowledge about the series, that is almost always why: they're twitter jeets trying to cultivate shit they'll then take back to try to earn money.
>>731374102Doesn't work that way, faggot.
>>731399401If God didn't want me to shove rocks up my asshole, why did he make them fit, huh?No, but seriously, slavery was the norm. You really need to stop being a liberal twink for a moment. Imagine you're an 800 BC peasant. Want breakfast? Kek. Lunch? Kek. Dinner? Kek. You eat whenever food became available. In this specific region, it was grain. You would then grind the grain into flour and bake it into bread. That's your daily meal, stale bread. If you got sick of the bread, you can fish, but don't fish too much or else you kill all of the fish and starve your village. Want to butcher cattle? Kek. Where are you going to store the meat? Why kill a cow when you could drink the milk?You truly have to understand how miserable life was back then. Your arguments only apply to post-industrial society. In that case, as the catholic church teaches, many of these laws lose purpose. They served a purpose for the time they were in, but no longer serve a purpose. I'll give you an example with Jesus. He argued that jews celebrate sabbath wrong. The purpose of sabbath was to give everyone a day of rest, not to punish yourself. In that instance, Jesus just clarified that you can't just read a biblical law while ignoring all context it was written for. Sabbath isn't supposed to be a day where you starve in a dark room, which many rabbinic jews still do to this day.So yes, slavery was necessary back then and not now. Avoiding pork was necessary back then, but not now. I'm not cherry picking laws, I'm going off what the Roman Catholic Church teaches.
>>731400051>I'm going off what the Roman Catholic Church teaches.Cringe. You should check the part where Jesus said plainly that he wasn't changing any laws. What he did with regards to the Sabbath was show that he is graceful toward those who must labor on it, and to make it known that He is the Lord over the sabbath such that he can offer this.
>>731399671The singularity, the entire universe that is infinitely small, infinitely dense, and had infinitely high temperature, wasn’t energy? This still doesn’t get over the fact that it was a created thing that only existed in a definite amount of time, being subject to time means it has a future, present, and past.
>>731396393REDEEM THE NEEDFUL REPUTATION
>>731400289It wasn't created, energy can not be created. Also most gods are phony, god is usually good values, morals, nature and life. Or money and being a psychopath if you are a jew. Or fucking killing everyone if you are a Muslim
>>731362886>80% of the studio look white>somehow the town and the writing look like it was made by someone from LAWTF? same shit with BG3
>>731394393>The board that is notorious for liking games that don't have the best graphical fidelity especially when it comes to JP games.No, this is /v/. The board notorious for PRETENDING to like games.
>>731362886Uh oh, Christoid melty!
>>731396283In what way does morality being conditional prevent it from being objective, midwit?
>>731400353>It wasn't created, energy can not be createdEnergy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, yes I affirmed this earlier. So you testify that the universe is uncreated, the alpha and omega, stretching all through out time and will always be what it always is. So I ask, are immaterial metaphysical things like the laws of logic, mathematics, knowledge, etc. discovered by humans because they are objective things, or did we, the subjective mind, create them, ultimately making them illusory?
>>731400206Mark 2:18-28 is what I was referring to. You're getting off track. The Pharisees (jews who debate Jesus) treated sabbath as a punishment. They take the quotes and use them to an extreme degree (like modern jews). The Pharisees were starving while Jesus ate, to which he basically calls them retards.>And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins.The metaphor is that these traditions once served a purpose but now they're old and outdated. The old wineskin is brittle and breaks easily. If new wineskins are available, why are you punishing yourself?Back to slavery, if you can produce so much food that food stops being an issue, why would you need slave laws? Literally everyone can afford to eat, so it no longer makes sense.
>>731363339Morality is objective, certain actions intrinsically produce either positive or negative outcomes in either the short or long term.If yhwh falls under objective good or objective evil is a different question, but objective morality exists.For example being gay is objectively wrong because it A) Doesnt result in reproductionB) Does result in disease and deathThats god or the universe or just the way things are, but that is objective morality.
>>731373783>game full of pozzed shit>here's how that means that devs are actually based, please buy the game
science dammit sisters, the christslaves are fighting back with actual logic and arguments report back to discord and regroup
>>731400670>In what way does morality being subjective prevent it from being objective, midwit?
>>731399906The commandments were issued more than two thousand years after the philosophical school of morality emerged in Europe - assuming of course that they ever really existed in the first place
>>731372102The most evil thing I did in Fable 3 was becoming the FED and just printing enough money to win the game while making myself look like the good guy.I Jewmaxxed.
>>731390420>Esther the MERCHANT>Your reputation RICH TYCOON>dislikes you
>>731373610Seeing somebody die is quite different from seeing yourself kill somebody.
>>731384257retarded nigger the tales from china are not fairy tales or the kind of tales that the brother Grim collected and published
>>731400993Since when did they like rich people who aren't of a similar background?
>>731373783>imagine if there are racist npcs who like you for killing black people
>>731381810Where do those fairytales come from?Where does the idea of faries/fae come from?Its like saying bigfoot isnt north american or chupacabra isnt south american
>>731381810THE NAME OF THE FUCKING SETTING IS ALBIONAKA BRITAIN
>>731400896>he thinks conditionality = subjectivity.Like I said, midwitted.
>>731389021Good = God with an extra oEvil = Devil without the D
>>731362886>f2p games are doing a better job even some aren't worth playing at allabsolute state of live service games vs single player offline
>>731400810The new wine is works/fasts done by the disciples after the cross. The old bottles are works/fasts done in the time before the cross. Your interpretation of that verse is detached from the context of the verses right before it. I'm pushing back on that because at no time does God endorse the Pharisees' interpretation of the law, therefore their traditions were never in date such that they could become outdated.>why would you need slave laws?They didn't. The notion that God actually wanted people to enslave each other at any time is absurd. God fed the Israelites bread, and they complained asking for meat. God didn't give them slaves to tend livestock, rather he sent fowls to them Himself.
>>731395913>it's meaningless because I said sochristcucks are retarded
>>731399906>The first observations of morality are of the commandments american education
>>731390546my holy book purports that it was written in like 70AD in the outer reaches of the roman emperor, well after the rise and fall of the pagan greek religion.
>>731397082Yhwh being real or false actually has little to no bearing on if GOD exists. Theres multiple possibilities>Yhwh exists and he is GOD>Yhwh exists and he is a demon not GOD>Yhwh doesnt exist but GOD does
>>731386063they are
>>731397789Why couldnt God have decided to make the world a rougelike with procedural generation driven by evolution?
>>731401576How good is your education? Last I checked, the secular curriculum of subjective morality would rather deconstruct a murder based on its socio-economic circumstances rather than conclude that it's immoral based on common sense (that thing we used to have before atheist philosophy became compulsory).
>>731399438The big bang can also be explained by a cyclical universal cycle, expand to maximum, contract and implode into minimum, explode and expand into universe 2 or 3 or 5 trillion.
>>731400784>So you testify that the universe is uncreated, the alpha and omegaYou realise this would make the universe itself god, instead of there being no god right?And the laws of the universe its will.
>another medieval game with nogs everywherelmao no thanks
>>731400823>A) Doesnt result in reproductionthat makes it good (deprivation of evil) DOIGH
>>731401894Why bother explaining it at all when by evolutionists' own admission it's a non-deterministic event that defies all probability? That's a bad look considering that evolutionary theory requires that all life should follow after high-probability outcomes and low-resistance behaviors.
>>731364126>MedievalIt's not, though. The land already went through an Industrial Revolution period.
>>731380942>permabans used to exist
>>731399438>as you would be saying that something came from nothingyes, it did>therefore denying the laws of the conservation of matter and energy.i do deny itfuck soiencesmug_pepe.jpg
>>731380942
>>731402358Yeah you're super based and redpilled or whatever it doesn't make you any less wrong
>>731377925>religionfags killed /pol/Still mad about the get, huh?
>>731400353>Energy can't be created or destroyed ahhh save me Yahwehman Only midwits cannot think outside of causality
>>731401786Then he wasn't the Abrahamic Yahwehman
>>731396549"Your reputation is X, Y, and Z" is still grammatically correct.It's just Jeets nigga
>>731402701And?That doesnt disprove GOD it disproves abrahmic religions.You do know that the concept of god wasnt created by them right? You do know yhwh was part of a pantheon right?You do know yhwh wasnt even the chief god of his pantheon but El was right?Disproving abrahamic religions in no way disproves GOD
>>731399649>Aren't you happy that other anons are also racist?>No. Because they're racist in the wrong ways and for the wrong reasons.
why do polschizofags have to ruin /v/, go ruin your family lives intead.
>>731402937Makes sense since the fight between globalists and nationalists in real life is the fight between>Jews: I'm racist and want to enslave every other race>Whites: I'm racist, I dont want to be near them.
>>731402937I care about actually being a fantasy fan. If you're just gonna be racist and stop at being racist while being whiny about the material, then you are categorically just as bad as all the woke faggots, just with the races flipped. Accept no tourists of any kind. However, if you're going to MEANINGFULLY integrate your racism with parsing fantasy material and vice versa, then whatever. You're at least actually engaging in the material and there's room for discussing the material as a part of the group proper, even if you're going to be shouting about niggers like a fag every 15 minutes.
>>731402832Then whatever God is, is a pointless option
>>731403020MWUAHAHAHA YOU HAVE SUMMONED ME TO AN ON TOPIC THREAD
>>731383447>I would argue that Christians are more fundamentally aligned with their core beliefs than any other, at their own expense and to a degree that may have destroyed them.>Had the Christian nations kept themselves Christian instead of fighting Jewish wars and importing billions of people who hate Christianity they would have gone on to convert the entire planet without force.You're simultaneously affirming that Christanity is self-destructive and that it's not.
>>731362886Photorealism was a mistake, where is the whimsy? I tried to fix the UI but dear god.
For me fable was not about the stupid emoting with NPC's, it was about the main story and killing balverine whilst winning fist fights and getting legendary swords / rare merchant armor.But they're acting like socializing is the main feature, grim
>>731402832This is some bizarre exegesis, names have meanings and multiple names can refer to the same thing but only one is chosen or highlighted in order to accommodate individual sensibilities.
>>731362886>in the world of Fable, this video game we made, morality is subjective>this is the same thing as saying all morality in real life is subjectiveyou are literally no better than hyperwoke retards who have been willfully reductive and misunderstanding of everything in an effort to turn every little thing into culture war weaponry. you are a dumb faggot, and i've never even liked Fable. but hey, maybe you can take this to twitter and start your new grifting business.
>>7314012982+2=4 this is objective. It remains the same regardless of anything else.Morals literally cannot be objective.When christians say that morals are objective, what they actually mean, is that orals are subjective to the nature of god.Do I believe in "objective" morality? Yes. But I understand that I use the term objective in a coloquial manner. So I am really talking about morals being "objective" as it relates to human wellbeing.When christains talk about objective morality, they claim it's philosophical objectivity. But then describe what is really subjective.Morals CANNOT be truly objective, unless you redefine what objective, or moral means.
>>731404075>take core thing out of game series that makes it the game series>wowwwwwwwwww bugged reception mechanics?
>>7314045312 is a social constructThe number anywayThe concept of "two things" is objective but you can say that anyway you have collectively agreed uponII2二⠃10All represent the concept we call "2"You can also use a different base so that 2 + 2 = 10 but it still means the same as 2+2=4The concept is objective, the language we use to describe it is subjective.
>>731404024>acting like socializing is the main featureIn their defense, Peter did pretty much the same thing. I remember how proud he was of the hand holding mechanic in I think it was Fable 3 (maybe 2, it's been a minute). Now, I'm not saying that Molyneux was someone to emulate, but focusing on the stupidest things is on brand at least.
>>731404531You seem to not be familiar with how most theologians, even going as far back as Hellenistic Greece, view God. Saying the objective reality of morality is subjective to the nature of God is like saying the objective reality of a rock is subjective to the nature of the universe, being defined by space, time and matter. God is the Divine Mind of the universe through which all metaphysical concepts get their epistemic justification for their existence from just like how a rock is grounded in the time and space of the universe. Due to the fallibility and limited knowledge of the human condition our interpretations are subjective but the concept, which is only truly known to God and God alone, is objective.
