>Why is there a black person in my comfy medival game?>meanwhile game from 2006
>>731700391that game is from 2025
>>731700537Are you fucking retarded?
>>731700575He probably is. You certainly are.
>classify each real life human race as seperate fantasy races>modern Bethesda can't justify non-white nords, bretons, or imperials, everyone will just say they're redguards>all the asians were wiped out by snake people
>>731700575You definitely are
Why can't there be blacks in a setting that is somewhat akin to medieval europe in terms of aestethics? Fantasy or not.>Huuuurr there were none in medieval europeRight but the game isn't a depiction of medieval europe.
It didn't insist upon itself back then
>>731700391The disparity in public reaction to these two situations has to do with the pictured character's origin as a member of a dark-skinned race from a fantasy series set in a fictitious world that were introduced and established over 30 years ago during a time when people told stories and designed settings and characters solely because they were interested in doing so, as opposed to an anachronistic addition to a story ostensibly set in a historical region of the real world where their presence is extremely unlikely if not outright impossible yet treaty inexplicably treated as a mundanity of everyday life and is only wedged into this scenario due to the creator's intent of using their chosen artistic medium as a form of political propaganda rather than a legitimate form of personal expression and entertainment.
>>731700391True story: I went Redguard on my first playthrough, but I didn't want to be black, so I pushed the gamma slider for skin color in the character creator until it was white-passing. NPCs somehow always knew, though.
Redguards have a reason to be there. They're a specific people from a specific place and since their country is part of the relatively cosmopolitan empire they show up wherever the empire goes. The modern approach is to put black people wherever regardless of race, which is done for political reasons.
>>731700976Bullshit cope for the overwhelming amount of cases.
>>731700973Nobody has problems with that in fucking Oblivion of all things, which is not based on europe but a completely made up fantasy setting, compared to, let's say KCD for example, as it's not just a diversity insert.It's a bait thread.
>>731700685>>731700901why?
>>731701096>which is done for political reasons.Says you based on what?>Well I have based my entire personality and existance around identity politucs sperging so others must have done the same
>>731701096It should be noted that it's not exclusively blacks, but they're the canary in the coal mine for if a work is going to be lame and gay on purpose or not. Doubly so if you're doing a period piece and there's more blacks on screen than actually existed in a 500 mile radius of the lands the setting takes place in.
>>731700391Wow, it's almost as if shoving niggers and faggots in my face in the name of diversity and inclusion had the exact opposite intended effect!
>>731701142Right, chuds werent chudding when obluvion came out though.
Redguards are all over the Empire because they're the muscle for the Imperials.
Did not buy nog-infested shit then, and I won't do so now. Cry harder, lefty
>>731701220No fucking idea what you're saying. Try speaking a human language next time.
>>731700391>be game dev>make medieval fantasy game>English/French check>Vikings check>high elves check>wood elves check>dark elves check>furfags check>scalies check>looking good>but wait we're american where's our dedicated nigger race?>Oh right and also they're the toughest most powerful warriors in the setting
>>731701235You are thinking about orisimir.
>>731701136NTA but, no. Gothic is also a fantasy setting rpg and has niggers. And guess what, I never felt they were shoved down my throat.
>>731700391CURVED SWORDS
>>731701313>>Oh right and also they're the toughest most powerful warriors in the settingThose would be the Orcs, by far.
>>731700391Sir that's from 2025. If you want to show the 206 version than please do so, so everyone can laugh at you harder when they are called someone from Redguard. Meanwhile game from 2026 claims everyone is the same ethnicity/race/etc or pretend it doesn't exist when it very obviously does.
>>731701369Yea because back then you didn't have a seething hatred for them born from an inferiority complex from gooning to cuck porn
>>731701424yeahamericans
In TES it doesn't matter too much to sprinkle random races in because the imperials literally did world conquests.When I play a game about ancient rome I go with the assumption that it followed historical borders.There's plenty of ethnicities melting pots in rome but mutt see everyone as white so they add random token negroes because they genuinely think north african were.
>>731701220The opinions you spend all day having a fit over weren't invented in 2016. A lot of them had far more general acceptance 25 years ago. I remember hearing White people say nigger all the time back then and I really don't anymore (Except for my close friends)
>>731700391>blackDumbass that is a Redguard.
>>731700391Quite literally shows how you can do diversity right and by contrast why modern games do it wrong. Redguards have their own country and their own culture, their existence in the game is explained and the diversity genuinely adds to the game. As opposed to actual woke games where everyone in a small unimportant village are all different races for no reason other than to fill the DEI checklist. It makes the world shallow and breaks muh immersion.
>>731700391Cyrodiil is multicultural. Skyrim on the other hand...
>>731700391>meanwhile game from 2006Which game? You posted a 2025 game by accident.Also fucking hell is that pic actually what it looks like? Looks worse than the original fucked up Shrek faces.
>>731701313Nord females have as much strength as Redguard males in Morrowind.
>>731701773>Cyrodiil is multiculturalThey are but all of them are still extremely racist
>>731700391because americans love and worship niggers and kikes etc etc
>>731701820uooooh strong nord pussy
>>731701854The multiculturalism fell apart real fucking fast when the Empire had a succession crisis and the Oblivion disaster meant everyone was now back at each others throats for a bit.
>>73170039190% of the discourse on this site is just people either making stuff up or saying stuff they don't believe in for the sake of wasting people's time
>>731700973I dont know, why cant there be goblins living in lothlorien and instead they live in goblin caves?
>>731701962>https://crestresearch.ac.uk/resources/mining-the-chans/I know for a fact that some of them are real and they consider crying about politics on 4chan a holy duty, but there's a good chance a lot of it is just brainless bot posting. Sadly we'll never have admins who give a fuck. Luggage lad gave the site an inoperable tumor on the way out (/lgbt/) and Hiro is a scammer who doesn't care. The lower staff are all varying levels of malicious.
Games like Elder Scrolls recognize distinct ethnic groups.Modern junk pretends diversity is society's default setting and treats ethnicity as culture's rainbow sprinkles.
>>731702140Skyrim will likely end up being the last Elder Scrolls game that gives the various races bonuses of any kind before they just become a skin selection, if even that.
>>731701313Redguards are Dex fags, Orcs and Nords are strongmaxxing
>>731700391Always felt off. They just look absolutely ridiculous in that euro medieval aesthetic. Same goes for asians.
>>731702291I like redguards in Elder scroll games. They're cool headed and some of the most reasonable people you meet in the games
>>731700973
>>731700391Inferior genetic hair.
>>731700391>Statistically the highest number of bandits are Redguard. What did Todd mean with this?
>>73170249790% of highwayman are kahjit in Oblivion. They are the designated nigger of Elder Scroll.
>>731700391They're fantasy Arabs and not black people.
>>731700391Redguards are fantasy black peopleThe Empire is fantasy Rome, not a medieval setting.
>>731700391Black europeans exist, get over it
>>731702745White Africans exist, get over it.
>>731702745So do white Africans...ho wait.
>>731701592Not that anon, but that sounds like some projection to me. To put it simple, it was stupid and gay back then too, but only the most chudly bigots ever noticed or said anything at the time. Now the noticing and fatigue is a lot more commonplace and mainstream. Even back then you could somebody asking what medieval barber shop had electric trimmers, and is hooking up those zesty 'groids with fade haircuts. Unrelated, but I would be entertained to see an honest setting where the mandatory diversity has time-appropriate nappy unkempt afro's. Nope, they will all have dope fades, and the Killmonger French fry hair.
>>731700391problem is mostly that black people look ugly and just look out of place, like i get it in a modern setting or something like cyberpunk, a tattoo'd black guy with dreadlocks and golden teeth killing his cheating black thotiana gf and dapping you up while offering you a blunt makes sense, but i cant imagine a black peasant in a medieval setting or a black noble or a black elf, or a romanceable black character, it just looks alien, blacks aint built for that, they play basketball, watch and act in porn, make rap music, and do gng shit nigga
>>731702745Whether or not Albanians are European is a matter of genetic debate.
>>731700391We need diversity bro
>>731701183Sure, can the game explain why the population of a random shithole medieval village looks like modern day California? No? Then fuck you.
>>731700852This is true why is it diversity only means black Latinos northern Europeans arabs asians are never seen in games?
SEX WITH BLACK GIRLS
>>731701313Those niggas also pretty dumb so it fitsCan you imagine a modern game having -INT for negro races? lmao
>>731701424Yeah but orcs kind of lack intellegent they're all kind of wholesome tho
>>731701369>I never feltThat's the issue isn't it? You rely on feelings over facts.
I love Redguards. Why, some of my best friends are Redguards.
>>731702969The blacks really wouldn't like it if they're not shoehorned in.
>>731701087>NPCs somehow always knew, though.It's like gaydar but for niggers.
>>731700391But seriously, what is with Western devs always doing giant pauldrons.
>>731702572>highwaymanThat's like 6 NPCs or soMeanwhile the most common enemy spawn in generic bandit caps and dungeons is the melee bandit who has a 50% chance to be a Redguard or Khajiit. However the Ringleader also has a 50% to be Redguard or Dunmer which puts Redguard slightly ahead of Khajiit.>Khajiit are the niggers of the elder scrolls Nope. Khajiit are the gypsies of the elder scrolls.
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>>731700391I figure that Tamriel's empire has made things pretty cosmopolitan, but once you leave areas with a strong Imperial presence it becomes a lot more homogeneous like in MorrowindIt's not the end of the world that there's nigs in medieval fantasy games but I much prefer it when they treat ethnicity and vast geographic space seriously. I liked how the first Fable did it where two important characters were black but are clearly ethnically distinct so it makes the setting feel a lot larger, richer and consistent
>>731701002>anachronistic addition to a story ostensibly set in a historical region of the real world where their presence is extremely unlikely if not outright impossible yet treaty inexplicably treated as a mundanity of everyday lifeCool story, but no such games exist. I don't even understand which game you're trying to describe. Fable?
>>731703165>Ringleader can only be dark skinned racesTodd?Wait a second. Redguard, Khajiit and Dunmer are the most criminal races. All of those races have heavy Islamic/arabic influences. Is Todd our guy?
>>731703384Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2? The creator even had a meltdown when people pointed out how extremely unlikely a random Muslim black African would be in medieval Bohemia.
>>731702416I kekd, forgot about this
>>731703580unlikely but not impossible?
>>731700537True, this is him from before the demaster.
>>731703580But he's not treated as a mundanity of everyday life, he's explicitly a foreign traveller from a different culture
>>731703039>what's yo real hair>not yo stripper hair.
>>731703685>different cultureA different culture that, need I remind you, is so much better than the local one because they treat their women with respectSo what if muslims in MODERN DAY see women as property, stop being a fucking Nazi maybe???
>>731703384Oh, another one and it's one that had to have been "consulted on" by dumb ass Westerners. Dragons Dogma 2 has the vaguely European kingdom of Vermund that is a highly diverse kingdom with whites, blacks, asians, and the catmen all in one place despite that level of diversity would've been incredibly rare and only relegated to large trade cities where multiple people from various regions would do business. Except it's not just Vermund but also the catman kingdom of Battahl is also filled with the same level of diversity despite the catmen being notably less friendly to outsiders and non-cat people. So much so that you have to find a way past the border guards who will try to stop you from crossing if you aren't also a catman. The only place where the demographics make sense to the area is the secret elf village, that is only home to elves and no one else. Naturally the elves in the secret elf town are all fair skinned and fair haired because that's how ethnic groups work.
>>731703741Anon, everyone is going to say their own culture is better. What was he supposed to do? Kneel before the player and acknowledge their obvious inherent superiority?
>>731703378>2 black people in the entire game>you can kill them both
>>731703795>despite that level of diversity would've been incredibly rareI'm not an expert on the real-life history of Vermund so I'll have to take your word for it
>>731703580And everyone in game treats the blackamoor as a curisoity. No one acts like it's a normal occurrence. They literally say "you've never seen someone like our doctor", some soldiers refuse to be treated by him, Christians don't trust him because he's Muslim etc. So you didn't even play the game.
>>731703741The different culture he spoke of was the one of the random black Muslim. The way your post is worded, it appears as though you are implying the culture of this random black Muslim's culture is better and treats women with respect. Otherwise, what culture are you insisting is "better" than Islam because of the treatment of women? Who's culture exactly? Either way, that's a pretty close minded, bigoted way to view Islam.
>>731703802Try going to any place other than modern day Western countries and acting like that.
>>731703802Have him defend his fucking culture and be confused that the local Czech Europeans are NOT treating their women like property?You don't see rightoids go to trans ralleys and claim that they love trannies so much, do you?
>>731703675Pauldrons not as retarded. Remasters are such a joke.
>>731703978Seems to work out well for Americans
>>731701087I did the same but I ended up dropping the character. The skin just looked grey and unhealthy and in some instances, slightly greenish muddy yellow tinged depending on the light with that constant ever present greyish instead of a white persons healthy pink.Which isn't that surprising, a lot of mutts have that same look. It's especially apparent in Jews. Really off putting look.
>>731703802the problem is that him saying that without two bodyguards next to him would most likely result in some redneck drunk peasant stabbing him in the neck with a pitchfork, and henry never gets any option to tell him to sybau
Niggers in European plate armor always look completely out of place
>>731703867Anon, this might be shocking, but people from a general area tend to look similar to each other. If I go to a temperate land like Vermund that would presumably have a climate similar to continental Europe, I would expect the people of that land to look largely similar to each other. Outsiders to the extent that Vermund in the game has would be wildly unrealistic even in the best of times. Every single town is equally diverse in similar amounts that I wouldn't be able to tell you what a Vermundian looks like. A Vermundian and a Battahlian might as well be the same ethnic groups for as little as the devs bothered to differentiate them. Could tell you what an elf looks like because all the elves look roughly similar to each other. Which is the only things that does make sense and is also because they've hidden themselves away from the rest of the kingdom. If they hadn't they'd probably be hit by a sudden surge of diversity as well.
>>731700391It made sense back then because Redguards had a low intelligence and willpower stat.
>>731703891I did, and I had him removed from the palace because he was a little shithead constantly badmouthing his hosts. Which is something a terrible guest does. Also I didn't like him. He looked at me cross ways.
>>731704089What about wood elves?(ie south east asians)
>>731704050I'm going to assume here that the historians who worked on the game have a better sense of the nuances of historical reality than some random butthurt white supremacist on /v/. I don't even know what you're trying to convey with that last comparison.
why do white liberals in media industries (movies, televison, video games_ love to suck off black people so much? all I hear about with movies right now is the black vampire movie having 16 oscar nominations
>>731704079>the problem is that him saying that without two bodyguards next to him would most likely result in some redneck drunk peasant stabbing him in the neck with a pitchforkIt's not like he's going around shouting it from the rooftops. He's confiding in a sympathetic person.
>>731701718So the world used to be like /pol/ but irl?
>>731704189>historians who worked on the gameThe historians who worked on the game lost all credibility when they said that the nigger in middle Europe during the 15th century was plausible
>>731704240NTA but unironically yesImagine everyone on /pol/ having no outlet here on 4chan and instead being a drunk at a bar, it only makes sense
>>731704102>Which is the only things that does make sense and is also because they've hidden themselves away from the rest of the kingdom. If they hadn't they'd probably be hit by a sudden surge of diversity as well.So you admit it's realistic. You simply don't know the history of Vermund. You're just assuming that you know better than the people who designed it. But given that your example from the same game does show that they have a sense of how diversity (or lack thereof) historically developed, you should take it instead as a worldbuilding detail that suggests something about the history of the world.
>>731701369>niggers fit in a game set in a prison colonyMmh... It's almost like...
>>731704202from what i can tell they see black people as the "INFINITE RETARDATION" wojak meme, they think every black is a complete fucking retard incapable of having any responsibility for their fuckups or having any accountability for their failures to develop a healthy positive culture or contribute to society. the problem is that every other minority far surpasses blacks in terms of every possible living standard despite getting much less pandering, so it gets harder and harder to rationalize how tf are these niggas so fucking retarded and pitbull coded that they just cant stop acting like animals 24/7 no matter how much help they get, so they keep trying harder and harder since its too brutal to accept that blacks just have fucked genes and inherited schizophrenia from birth at like 90% rates. its not just yt peepo doe, every american tries to pity and help blacks because they're so bamboozled at how retarded they are. like imagine having years and years of advantages compared to east asian, south asian, central and south american migrants etc and you are still somehow just inferior to them all and lack in every metric. how.
>>731704202>Most Asians are a model minority and achieve success equal to or above Whites so they're White Adjacent and privileged or racist>Indians are so gross even Liberals don't like them>No one cares about Native Americans so there is no point in performative bullshit>Arabs are only useful to shit on Jews who themselves are "White Adjacent"What else is there for them to pat themselves on the back about, really?
>>731701369I mean, the setting was located at some forced-labour camp where criminals were sent to extract mineral, so it only made sense it was full of niggers.
>>731702806>ut only the most chudly bigots ever noticed or said anything at the time. Now the noticing and fatigue is a lot more commonplace and mainstream.Nah, it's just that you're the chud now.
>>731703039sorry not into beastiality
>>731704247>Those astronomists lost all credibility when they said the Earth revolves around the Sun
>Every racist nord supremacist /v/'s wives
>>731704402>from what i can tell...Have you tried asking a single one of them?
>>731704202>why do American love to suck off black people so muchBecause of slavery guiltSimilar to how Euros treat Jews with kid gloves and downright venerate them, Americans are buckbroken because predominantly niggers were "employed" in servile jobs due to slavery. It doesn't matter that those slaves were slaves sold BY niggers, the nigger will now feel eternally oppressed and like the American owes them.
>>731704346It's not realistic, because one has to ask where all these different ethnic groups came from when something as simple as skin pigmentation would be dictated by the locales they live in. Deep subsaharan blacks do not naturally occur in an environment like Vermund naturally, and several generations of interbreeding would've eventually bred out that kind of subtype if they had truly been there for centuries. It's not realistic, it's modern anachronism to showcase diversity at the expense of believability, hence why the elves ARE THE EXCEPTION. They show how queer it is that this one group is strangely homogenous in a way that makes logical sense where the rest of the area does not.
>>731704526>It doesn't matter that those slaves were slaves sold BY niggersIndeed, why would it?
>>731704524why would i do that, they're biased? its like asking your kid that has shit grades and hates studying why or whether his grades are shit, there'll always be a lie and an excuse ready.
>>731704526you forgot your cope about those slave ships being owned by DA JOOS
>>731703802I'm fine with the presence of foreign characters, and I'm with Musa since we know travelers and merchants visited places in Europe, but given the context of the historical period it's a pretty odd thing to do considering the genuine tensions that existed between Christians and Muslims, the former usually perceiving the latter as pagans as wellpic related was the fun way to do what you're talking about, but it came off like a particularly awkward history and cultural 'lesson' in kcd 2
>>731704568>It's not realistic, because one has to ask where all these different ethnic groups came fromYes, one does have to ask. But you don't ask, you instead insist that the devs made a mistake in their own game. Even as you admit that they do know how to do it "right".
>uuuh uuuh it's just forced... uh... breaks my immersion.... uuuh ome black existing is clearly politicalJust fess up that you are somey driven by your own obsession over identity politics and hate nigger dude. Trying to do this pathetic dance that no one actually falls for just kinda shows how you yourself know your views are retarded and not at all as normal as you claim.
>>731704453>Those astronomists lost all credibility when they said the Sun revolves around the EarthFTFY, now it's a correct equivalency
>>731704592>why would i do that, they're biased?Holy kekWell sure Anon you're biased towards your own opinions so I'm going to assume you hate blacks due to penis envy and deep-seated insecurity
>>731704641>Yes, one does have to askDo we really? What if we aren't race obsessed culture warriors and we just don't really care?
>>731704583>why would it?Because niggers enslaved niggers and then cried about those niggers being enslaved
>>731704707Sure, I can live with that, too. Be seeing you then.
>>731700973Don't you have to address why everyone isn't homogeneous?
>>731704701man i dont hate you i feel sorry for you, even now your only response is penis envy and some delusion about others being jealous of you. big bro you are black. you are an african lol
>>731704641The mistake they made with their game was the clear inclusion of western influence to make it further appeal to "a wider audience". Because the game doesn't bother to answer how all these groups got there, or Battahl, it just takes it as a given. The only thing it does definitely say is that Vermund was started by some ancient Arisen who was a catman. After that, it's literally nothing. You're playing devil's advocate for this and trying to say it's fine like any good gaslighter would.
funny how the 5-6 surviving visitors from apefrica per century always need to be showcased in the historical settings they have zero reason to be in
>>731704641And again, for someone who apparently wants to "get into the history of the setting" why then does the highly prejudicial kingdom of Battahl allow so many non catmen into the kingdom and even allow them so much leniency while there? Doubly so when the largest bandit group that harasses caravans (player included as there's several quests to stop them) are primarily non-Battahli? Do you ever bother to ask that, or are you just going to say that the strangely diverse population is just normal?
>>731704718I believe the issue is rather with the race-based system of chattel slavery established in America and the period of segregation following it, resulting in inequality that lasts into the modern day.Certainly, we can also talk about how colonialism in Africa created a demand for slaves and turned a tribal warfare situation where losers were taken as captives into an economy where dedicated slave hunting parties paid by white colonists went out to kidnap entire villages, though.
>>731700973Because i hate niggers
>Ths most crazy niggas are always Breton
>>731704780>man i dont hate you i feel sorry for youThat's not true, actually. You are simply biased towards your own opinions. You need to listen to me, who is able to be objective about your opinions.
>>731704781>gaslighterYou're taking it as a given that your opinion is fact. Even if the game doesn't spell out to you how those groups got there, their very presence itself means they must've. You can speculate about how they might have. Or you can just say NO IT'S WRONG BECAUSE IT DOESN'T APPEAL TO MY FANTASY I guess>>731704891>Do you ever bother to ask that, or are you just going to say that the strangely diverse population is just normal?False dichotomy. You can ask it genuinely, instead of as a leading question that you already think you know the answer to.
>>731700391this is the type of post I would expect from someone playing the remaster
>>731704952whatever helps you cope bro, i don't hate you im aware most black people suffer from mass trauma and schizophrenia, and that your less developed and evolved brains arent built to participate in a modern society and would be better of roaming the wilds of africa, whites are to be blamed for forcing you into western societies and causing you get mindbroken so hard to the point of a grown ass single black man posting shit like ts out of the blue>Well sure Anon you're biased towards your own opinions so I'm going to assume you hate blacks due to penis envy and deep-seated insecurity
Are argonians Indians of Cyrodill?
>>731700391The Elder Scrolls is not a medieval game series. It is a high fantasy game series, and more than that it's one where there's actually ample explanation for why a race of black humans is present, instead of the typical laughable pretense that modern Californian racial demographics make sense as the norm in all possible settings without explanation.
>>731704185Same story.
>>731704450>he wouldn't fuck a deer
>>731700391the oblivion remaster ruined so many npcshe doesn't even look like the same character anymore
>>731705223You have no idea what's even happening here do youSpeaking of less developed and evolved brains not built to participate in a modern society
>>731705340lol, you are a prime example of black schizophrenia. whatever dog, have fun being batshit insane, im outta your schizo threads
>>731700973because black people shouldn't replace white people
>>731703675>Pleasant looking black dude>>731700391>Brocolli hair with meth addiction face
>>731700852>wiped outOr integrated.
>>731705397>lol, you are a prime example of black schizophrenia.I'm lily-white, for one
>>731705651You need the mod that removes beards for females
>>731706010stop animefying my 'jits
>>731704247wtf but I was told Yasuke was a real samurai?
>>731703675spock is a nigga?
