Does gatekeeping work at all?
>>731920669Yep
>>731920669Yes, but the content itself plays the biggest role in gatekeeping. If a company makes art that everyone would like, then attempting to gatekeep afterwards is just going to result in your fanbase being made up of multiple distinct tribes
>>731920669I persist in insisting that controlling access to something someone else made and decides how to distribute is a fool's errand. The modern internet allows for spaces filled with gatekeepers to simply be ignored and adjacent fan spaces that are more accepting to be created as an alternative. The comic about DnD is a great example of the cognitive dissonance of thinking anyone can control how anyone else plays a game that's famously decentralized and played in thousands of small groups with homebrew rules and such.
>imba
>>731920669What changed
>>731920669It does until the first simp caves to a woman. You might as well find a new hobby at that point.
>>731920669Gatekeeping has literally never worked once when something reached the slightest bit of mainstream attention.
>>731920868Gatekeeping can also be extremely cringy in some cases. Blue Archive comes to mind, with western fanbase being extremely hostile to any fan works showing yuri, or anything other they don't agree with, and generally just being obnoxious asshats.Meanwhile yuri pairings and female protag were featured in official compilation works released in Japan. Hell, it's not obscure at all in Japan in general, BA has collabs with fucking train lines.The common response to this that I see is "well, we don't want Hoyo crowd for our game!"But like, come on bro. Hoyo players would not suddenly jump to BA because of some fan art. They'd see the gameplay and then turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away, the game gatekeeps itself.
As the comic you didn't even read before posting suggests, only when you have any power whatsoever to do so, and for a hobby as colossal as video games you have absolutely none.
>>731920669I want to have sex with White Katara!
>>731920868>furry is the tranny and not the pedoalmost got me with this bait
>>731920669No. In order to properly gatekeep you need a large, tightly-knit community with a vested interest in actively driving away undesirables from that community. If it's a game, those in charge of the game also need to be a part of that community, otherwise you will be the one driven out. Most people, even if they are invested in their activity, just don't care enough to keep the women and normalfags away, and are content to simply bail when the activity becomes too pozzed.
>>731920958>>731920669This Brazilian retard copied a namefag called "cap-tan". He stole both the art and humor form 4chan. Never trust a brazilian retard anything, they are incapable of producing value. You are welcome
>>731921336you sound brazilian yourself
>>731920669Nah, gaming has been in a downward spiral since gen 7, and the only people who disagree are either normies themselves, or casuals who are do complacent and just want to consoom, they don't care what changes come to the industry
>>731920868/thread>>731921120The whole gatekeeping from BA is funny, because they created the whole cunny thing and spread it to the entire internet, but they insist on saying that they are a niche gacha.
>>731920669Only if the creators/company are on board with the idea, fans alone can't gatekeep forever if a company wants its property to reach a wider audience.
>>731920868Me on the right. Both hat and shirt.
>>731921336I didn't found this "cap-tan"
>>731921336Brazilians are like a different species. Some kind of mimic predator that repeats what it hears from its victims so it can lure in more food. Those niggers even repeat pozzed talking points and seethe when you say slurs near them.
Only if the gates never open. Prior to that point, yes.
>>731920669Gatekeeping is noble but unrealistic. If a megacorp behind your hobby decided "branch out into modern audiences" - there would be fuck all you could do to stop it. You think any amount of oldschool warhammer fans could stop gays sweatshop from female custodes and necrons that are less evil than fucking Tau? Best you can do is gatekeep them out of your discussion spaces, like 4chan, but this isn't as big of a platform as some thing it is, and even then they'll just infiltrate from the backdoor - by applying to be tranny jannies.
>>731921540yeah good luck with that when your fans are the internet hate machine
>>731921673And that's a good thing, get filtered bitch you will never belong.
>4chan wasn't able to gatekeep it's community and culture>now normaltards and zoomniggers are discussing phonegames on /v/The ironing.
>>731921209Nice try but your "uno reverse" is fake.
Heaven has a gate but Hell is open to everyone.
>>731920669It only works if you're part of the creative process. Random nobodies on the internet who think they have an influence on culture for mass-produced consumer products (software that is easily reproducible to boot) are beyond retarded, there's no other way I can put it. Gatekeeping only works for circumstantial matters surrounding the game, shit that has often little to no influence on sales numbers (what actually interests suits and developers alike)
>>731921793Go to bed Hegseth.
>>731920669Yes you can but only if you can gain control of it. ie in TTRPGs, you focus around the 70s to 80s books and then just leave normal niggers to whatever corposlop is shat out in 2026. This requires some level of control though, since in gaming the online is often handeled by the company and once the game is shut down you are meant to shuffle to the NEW game.
To gatekeep a megacorp hobby just act as awful as possible to new players and fans. "I quit because of the community" is a commonly cited thing for a reason
>>731920669why would women gatekeep a hobby? usually gatekeeping is done to keep women out because their presence always draws drama and unwanted normies.
>>731920669A lot of people who talk about gatekeeping don't realize they are the ones that need to be and generally are gatekept. Like if you play rpgs you're already on the outside, that's not something that can be protected, games need to be protected from you.
>>731921837>gatekeeping shit thats easily searchable in the archivesohnonono
>>731920669yeah, blue archive is self-gatekeeping because of the lolislow level coding languages are self-gatekeeping because they're mildly more difficult to learn than pythonanything that requires the exertion of mental effort is normalfag repellent
>>731921997>poodickschizoDunno who that is.
>>731923931Unless the exertion of mental effort is the needlessly prolonged repetitive autistic kind, then it will only get worse 50000 times faster. Like Skyrim modding.
>>731920868>/pol/ meeting
>>731922768>gets bannedWow, that sure was effective.
Go to /mlp/ if you want to see what gatekeeping actually leads to long term
>>731924762>not infiltrating mod staffAre you even trying to gatekeep?
>>731920669yes
>>731921120>Game gatekeeps itselfIt's called being a bad game. Gachafags only care about the characters and art and absolutely nothing else. They will look at you strangely when you asked them if the gameplay is good. At most they will tell you the story is "good". You faggots are like the insufferable KPOP fags from /mu/, since like them, your discourse is only tangentially related to the boards you squat on.>Reminder that BA and KPOP both originated from Korea>>731924479>02-12-10.02.44.jpgWhat kind of dogshit filename is this?
>>731920669the trick is to not interact with other people who "like" what you likethen they can't ruin it with their nonsense
>>731924783They're not gatekeeping anyone. If anything, we're gatekeeping them IN with a containment board and bans on sight to anyone who escapes.It's great
>>731925079>the trick is to not interact with other peopleYou could just end there.
we gotta gatekeep gatekeeping
>>731925134Other way around, all of 4chan exists as a containment zone to prevent tourists from destroying /mlp/.
>>731921793>If a megacorp behind your hobby decided "branch out into modern audiences" - there would be fuck all you could do to stop ityou can gatekeep the company to insolvencywhat you enjoyed will die, but it was being killed anyway
>>731925205this was made by the same kind of person as all those Korean(?) humiliation ritual comics, wasn't it?
It wouldn't be so bad if we could actually create new cultural products and let things that go to shit actually die, instead of endlessly rehashing things boomers thought were cool from the 60s-80s or worshiping foreign cultural products that we can't ourselves create.
>>731925035it appears to maybe be a date, but I can't make sense of it. the only date format that works for filenames if you're sorting them alphabetically is yyyy-mm-dd
>>731922768>"ugh this community is deeply problematic and full of racists, fascists, pedos and trump supporters"
>>731925374no, the korean guy draws himself as a libtard cuck, this spic guy draws himself as a DBZ gigachad with a white big titty gf and a white friendseems like he just hates people that can't handle spice
>>731921124Pretty much correct, theres almost nothing you can do once the corporation that owns thing opens flood gates for money, look how Guilty Gear ended up or any fighting game series for that matter.
>>731924783>>731925134>/mlp/MLP still has plenty of horsefuckers and a wide array of takes about it so conversation isn't the most stagnant it could be. The prompts are insane but that's to be expected, it's not any different from some of the horny thread-starters we see here (albeit with more acceptable characters). MLP even has a recent gen to fawn over so they can continue the cycle. They also have tamers making slop for them./jp/ is an actual containment board. There is almost never any discussion. It's just posting the same stilted RP and pictures of touhou girls day after day with some generals with actual topics skulking around. There is no creative drive there, just eternal stagnation. It's a genuinely miserable place. Even with new games it's the same thing every day with very few actual discussions occurring. The autism keeps everyone out because there is nothing to engage with. They're not human anymore.
>>731925730>this spic guy draws himself as a DBZ gigachadi don't even think that's true. the character in the comic isn't a self insert. the comic itself is called ennui GO and I have no idea what it's actually about
>>731925403Good things are still good even if centuries have passed. Stuff made during the time of the ancient greeks or the 1800s are still rehashed to this day.
>>731925932if it isn't a self insert then that's even better, it's just a character instead of the author whining about being a cuck and the white man or whatever
>>731920868The problem is that the normie mind sees something edgy and controversial and is drawn towards it, yet socially they can't be seen actually enjoying a designated "problematic" work by their judgemental social media peers, yet rather then simply enjoy it in private as a guilty pleasure they must also constantly broadcast to the world what media they're consuming so they make posts or videos on why this media is so double plus ungood and how offended they are about it as a kind of form of religious guilt response.
