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who put this twink in power?
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Me
Sided with him at every turn
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>>732297362
I would never be a simp

>>732297693
At your service, my Queen
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>>732297693
Ventrussy got me actin fishmalk
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>>732297362
I always got the impression he was supposed to be a Palpatine sort of rise to power, where he briefly mentions his sire and all the people he served under but never DIRECTLY admits he usurped all their influence after killing them. He weaseled his way to the top because he used to be the bitch boy until he got enough of a foothold to rule over others.
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>>732298060
reminds me of an orange fello in office
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>>732297362
Napoleon, apparently.
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>>732298756
honestly it would be really cool seeing a random historical figure as a vampire maybe as like one of the heads of some camarilla branch in like Chicago
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>>732297693
How much of a cuck could you be? Dude immediately stabs you in the back because he's afraid of you.
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>>732298891
I thought it would be funny
The other factions were lame
He is comically villanous
I wouldve sided with the sabbath or a tzimitsce but they wouldnt let me
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>>732297824
for me it's femGangrel in the hoodie
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>>732298060
Nah, he was sent into Los Angeles because he isn't that competent nor he is that dangerous, or even that incompetent. Unlikely to make waves with Nines and the Anarchs. Good for the status quos. A mediocre nobody.

Basically LaCroix is 300 years old at best, which is extremely low for vampire in a Prince position, and certainly in that Prince position. And he's also mocked pretty much by all the local Primogens. Maximillian Strauss call it the closest to "a little bitch" that an old Tremere playing Camirally games would ever call a Prince. The point is that LaCroix is not a huge deal - he's trying to become a huge deal, for sure, but he was probably sent because he's as close to harmless as possible.

In case you didn't get "everyone disrepecting LaCroix" in the narrative. He was not sent because he's competent. Pretty sure he was sent because he's not competent, exactly. He's no Palpatine, he's more like the dude you sent because if all goes to shit he can take the fall, and he's unlikely to be able to really rock the boat because he's not competent.

LaCroix possibly thought or wanted something else, but it isn't true.
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>>732299327
so he Cam don't consider LA worth much?
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>>732297362
https://3z83mrcb8vh.typeform.com/vampire?typeform-source=www.paradoxinteractive.com
>Really want to get Tzimisce and trying to answer the questions appropriately
>First try
>Get G*ngrel
>Second try
>Get G*ngrel again
>Third try
>Get Lasombra
>"OH FUCK THIS, I'll just answer genuinely, I dont give a shit at this point"
>Give truthful answers
>Get Tzimisce
I dont know if I should proud or if I should worry about my psyche.
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>>732299432
They do, but by then LA was a powder keg of Anarchs influences that had already seceded succesfully once. VTMB is clear that LaCroix was sent for the Camarilla to have, nominally, a leader in the place, that can say "the Camarilla is 100% controlling LA", while in fact it's not barely a push. More of a polite fiction everyone kinda agree because no one really want a second civil war right now.

LaCroix is personally extremely weak, and his position is weak. Primogens mock him behind his back. Maximillian mocks him, Gary mocks him and literally both go behind his back. He's young as fuck. He grasps for power because he got none of it, really, not in the Camarilla, or personally. When Nines interrupts your execution, instead of saying "nah, kill the fledglin fuck the anarchs", he's forced to admit he can't kill the fledgling because of Nines and the Anarchs. Its because his position is that weak.

All of that also explains his desperation to grab anything, any power, to gain a foothold. He's not a huge Palpatine-like figure draped in the shadows. He's a young sacrifical vampire sent into the middle of a civil war expected to lose, and be the sacrifice for the real push later on, one whose sole power is a very polite fiction between both primogens and anarchs, and he knows it.
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>>732299684
I got gangrel because im that weird kid thats not ugly or popular
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>>732299925
Wow. I would almost feel sorry for the guy, if he wasn't a fucking Fr*nch retard
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>>732300164
you smell like wet dog lmao
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>>732298090
>hmm... how can i make this thread political?
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>>732300505
bitches love dogs
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>>732299925
How did he get such a nice guard dog to follow him?
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>>732300164
>how bro felt after writing this
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>>732299684
Embrace your inner nature
Start clogging the sewers with your experiments
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>be condemned to eternal damnation just because of circumstance that one single night
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>>732300809
Murdering your little brother is not a fucking circumstance
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>>732300809
Im sorry but that goth vamp femdom pussy was too good
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Why does it matter who rules L.A. if both sides will still obey the masquerade while doing whatever else they want?
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>>732299684
Gangrel
I felt I would get it as I'm a weird fucker who likes animals. I get so happy when I see a bird
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>>732300976
Because
>Camarilla is led by Ventrue and Tremere, who are power hungry assholes
>Sabbat is led by Tzimisce and Lasombra who are VERY evil power hungry assholes
>Anarchs are mostly Gangrel and Brujah who are fucking retards
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>>732297362
Me. As a joke.
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>>732297362
wasnt he some french noble from the revolution
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>>732301158
I think the Garou should take over LA.
I think it would be a benefit to all if they just took over.
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>>732301279
Garou are too retarded to rule things
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>>732301279
I think Garou should know their place, as rugs for the Tzimisce and coats for the Ventrue
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>>732297362
>twink
not even remotely effeminate nor twink-like. hes more like a chad twink or chink for short.
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>>732297362
His dedication to the sigma grindset.
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>>732301334
Why do you think I want them to take over.
I want total LA death
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>>732301361
what's it called when you're a twink (young looking/ clean shaved) but not gay
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>>732301475
a normal not fat person.
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>obfuscate
You didn't beat the game
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>>732301475
Metrosexual?
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>>732301475
european. specifically a mediterranean man
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>>732301570
Based take
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>>732302140
this but im irish
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>>732297362
I always sided with Strauss.
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>>732299106
>new kid on the block that proves increasingly capable
>has virtually no info on the new world
>"""works""" for now for a guy he has no loyalty towards only due to conjecture, and even that is fleeting
>the Sabbat makes no effort whatsoever to reach out and recruit
if anything this can be blamed on the time constraits the OG devs had, but it also highlights that ALL factions in LA were mostly bottom of the barell
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>>732297362
every once in a while I play this game and get such a soothing feeling
>every Clan adds at least a little bit of new content and replayability
>like almost all the game music, original and unreleased
>find new non-clan stuff on almost every playthrough like Becket being on the pier cliff when you first zone in
>forget about Samantha and Becket and enjoy their emotional cutscenes like it's the first time\
AND
game made in one of the coolest time periods yet (besides the 80s and the 1000s but that's subjective)
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>>732305356
Sabbat is retarded by default
It always baffled me how a Clan of Intellectual such as Tziggers would end up in that retarded shitshow
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>>732298060
my personal opinion (and should be treated as such) is that he was set up for failiure by his """peers""" and this severely clouded his judgement, otherwise he would have been best butt buddy with the Fledgeling
>gets sent to LA, a previous Cammy loss with minimal forces
>unpopular with almost everyone, including his Primogen
>unpopularity doubles when he may or may not have killed Grout
>unpopularity triples when the Kuei Jin alliance is revealed
>stakes (heh) it all on an ASSyrian conversation piece
>is French
the Fledgeling is a very resourceful character in a perfect position to be impressed with low tier gifts (per vampire riches) and fucks even that up because he only gives you money if you blackmail / persuad.
Actually yeah his issue is that he was a miserly French cunt.
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>>732305827
it's been a while since I played War Games and I don't really feel like replaying it but that mod has a quest about a (young) Tzigger girl that can be solved by just ... talking to her.
In Zurrich (fourth city) there's a Giovanni bank manager that is afraid she will ruin business. She didn't even know there was a Giovanni there, and either promises to not stir shit or leaves if you insist. The Giovanni is fine with either outcome.
Meanwhile Andrei was a retard in every aspect except his choice of attire.
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>>732299925
oh nice a new pic
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>>732306886
Andrei is a great troll
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>>732306253
The lack of rewards given by him is a real issue, I think the only thing he gives out voluntarily is the downtown haven?
I think he just really wants to be and act like a real prince. His ego won't let him be a fake prince.
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>>732304354
irish people look like bags of milk after the age of 14 so no.
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>>732299684
>Banu Haqim
My brothers, I better not see any of you treating your waifus poorly, inshallah.
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>>732299925
>He's a young sacrifical vampire sent into the middle of a civil war expected to lose, and be the sacrifice for the real push later on
oh wow, so he's literally just the player character
nice, i never thought of him like that before
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>>732299684
>Hecata
>mfw I'm applying to mortuary science school next year
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>>732297362
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>>732305827
>It always baffled me how a Clan of Intellectual such as Tziggers would end up in that retarded shitshow
The Tremere were one of the founding clans of the Camarilla. No self-respecting Tzigger would ever work with the Tremere. Same with the Lasombra and the Ventrue. The Sabbat was formed pretty much purely out of spite.
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>>732308381
>Isaac acts like and fulfills the same role as a Prince
>Allows the Tzimisce to run rampant in his backyard and does nothing about it on his own because he's too busy pining over his boy toy
>Game treats him like he's a reasonable leader
Say what you will about LaCroix but he's certainly more concerned about the city than the Anarchs
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>>732305827
The Sabbat is broken down into two groups. Literal retards that are little more than lucky shovelheads and super mega ultra occultists operating from the shadows that know every prophecy like the back of their hand. And there's very little on the "middle layer" that actually greases the wheels and keeps the two groups operating in tandem, unlike the Camarilla which is almost entirely those types.
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>>732299684
naturally
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>>732310364
That doesn't explain why the Sabbat is such a shitshow.
>>732311143
I think you forgot the part where the main Sabbat HQ in town is two streets away from his tower.
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>>732297693
>mfw he opened it
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if you had to make a hypothetical sequel

>what clans would you have
>what city would it be in
>what timeline would it take place
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>>732311143
>Allows the Tzimisce to run rampant in his backyard
The murder mansion was up in the hills, not part of the hollywood territory, I guess.
And the snuff film was pretty hush-hush, and you get sent to investigate it for him.
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>>732313941
When I first played, I assumed the "and now the city is mine" option was just referencing that I had already killed off every other organized group in LA and could easily take over without the sarcophagus. I didn't realize my moron fledgling was going to open the fucking thing.
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>>732314061
All of them
Detroit in the 70's
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>>732299684
>got Nosferatu
bros...
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>>732314164
I do love that upon replay one of the very first things you see when you get control of your character is pic related.
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>>732297362
>who put this twink in power?
WE DO!!!
WE DO!!!
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>>732300874
God was actually pissed that caine lied about it. He didn't really give a shit about the murder itself. At any time if Caine said "i made an oopsie woopsie :,(.sowwy" god would welcome him back instantly.
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>>732314062
>You get sent to investigate it for him
Under Camarilla orders with the idea of working together with the Anarchs but they proceed to do nothing
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>>732315284
Takes brass balls to lie to an omnicient being.
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>>732315303
They do something.
They send you. And, like a good boy, you go and deal with it for them.
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>>732315665
>Demanding the vampire government fuck off while still relying on them
The Anarchs are somehow more native american than the garou
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other twinks did
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>>732315820
Fledgling learns how Jyhad works.
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>>732297362
The sort of fascinating thing is one ending illustrates that however it was arranged LaCroix was already considered so untrustworthy the Tremere had been prepared to intervene in an orderly fashion.

Though, outside of the game needing to happen, I'm not sure why they didn't just start there.
Damsel had her grief with Strauss pointing fingers during the plague, though he wasn't entirely wrong in the end, but the Anarchs would be less riled up if Nines has been parlaying with him instead.
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>>732299684
>https://3z83mrcb8vh.typeform.com/vampire?typeform-source=www.paradoxinteractive.com
>Nosferatu
Stay outta my sewers you thinblood fags
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>Brujah
lol...
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>>732299684
Gangrel is usually considered the furry clan but it's really more of a "leave me the fuck alone" clan
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>>732318885
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>>732318885
Don't worry, no one wants to hang out with a bunch of furries anyways.
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>>732319070
Sounds like sour grapes, fox boy, but you type like a faggot so keep doing you, fruit.

<<<THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY GANGREL GANG>>>
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>>732299684
Nosferatu here too
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>>732319176
Gangreen Gang?
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>>732297362
>Become a vampire
>Now you're an eternal twink
I'm not sure it's worth it.
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>>732319212
The Nosferatu experience in Bloodlines is genuine kino.
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>>732319176
>Kid, I knew your reputation
I'm not sure why it took me until now to realize Nines is probably referring to the rumor of what you did to the Sabbat warehouses, I thought he meant he generally knew you were bad news from how much authority dismantling upheaval you cause wherever you go.
Guess it could be both.
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>>732297362
Going by old lore, from what I remember, literally a gay shota Toreador Methuselah that is the real power in the LA area territory. Though he keeps himself hidden and only probably a couple Camarilla elders know he's there and not to be fucked with.

This is why such a hot commodity in real estate isn't snatched up by some 1,500 year old fuck you vamp that decided to slightly "downgrade" from personally ruling Barcelona or some shit. It's the real reason California anarchs got as far as they did. You think they're remotely competent enough to win on their own? Pfft. A super elder that was there first had a crush on the anarch leader at the time and demanded the official face of the system go soft on him, until the anarchs "won" outright.
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im still annoyed at the chinese vampires betraying you, it was so obviously going to happen that i felt like I would've been able to avoid it but nope
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>>732319447
Your reputation is everything he learned about you from the Anarchs after Grout's mansion, which includes, but isn't limited to:
>committing a hit on a known gangster in Chinatown
>committing a terrorist attack on the Fu Syndicate
>breaking into, and breaking out of, the Giovanni Stronghold
>slaughtering a Hunter monastery
>kicking the Sabbat out of LA
>surviving a werewolf encounter
>surviving a blood hunt

All Nines wanted was another recruit for the cause because of how badly raped the Anarchs were when the Kuei-jin first arrived, how they lost power when the Camarilla rolled back into LA, and how they were losing territory and recruits due to the Sabbat. Nines calls you "kid" repeatedly because he doesn't see you as much of a vampire due to your youth, but once you blow up Venture Tower, that's when he realizes that you're so much more than just another fledgling.

All he can do at the end is watch as you move on from all the bullshit with no way to stop you from walking the path of pariahs and legends. I don't think Nines even realizes that Jack is in LA not because he believes in the Anarch cause, but because Jack is fucking around and is so ego-free he's fine with Nines playing at freedom fighter and humoring Nines' Elysium.
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>>732297756
This but Ryong Choi

Why are babby Ventrue princes so cute? Just want to validate them
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>>732319905
Of course he's doesn't. He's what, a hundred? Nines is just too young to really understand how old vampires tick.
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>>732319839
If you have 10 in lockpicking you can save the dude who owns the Red Dragon and his daughter by finding a hidden computer in the Fu Syndicate, and also confront Ming Xiao in the Golden Temple about the bullshit she's doing once you complete the Giovanni mission, and further criticize her after the hotel mission. You can't avoid confronting her because she took the key, but you don't ever have to be nice to her nor trust her if you're doing enough exploring and/or are a belligerent vampire. Only the most brain-dead retards who can't tell Ming is being a passive-aggressive cunt the entire time would ever side with her at the end. Even Caine is baffled by your decision.
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>>732316627
I didn't know Alex Jones posted here!
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>>732300965
lmao that pic

>>732320060
i really only sided with her because I thought I'd get to kill them all when she inevitably betrayed me but sadly no, wonder if a mod ever allowed for that
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>>732320189
bitch did you also side with lacroix at some point because you thought you could forgive him and he'd become a good vampire bro?
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>>732319996
*roasts*
lol, lmao
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>>732318869
https://files.catbox.moe/im9gz0.mp4

>>732319905
if one were to get into the details about wwyd, I'd say to make THE VENTURE TOWER 9/11 a recruitment drive by saying the cam did it against the peaceful, fun-loving anarchs and have Isaac movie the shit out of that theory for 20+ years
literally make it uncool and shameful for cammies to show their faces, and for sabbat members to be mad jelly they didn't do that AND that anarchs stopped the cammies who did that
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>>732320319
lacroix deserves to win(lose)
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>>732315284
So he refuses to own up to an awful thing he did and it haunts him and his children as a result? Huh, good thing real life doesn't work like that.
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>>732320475
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>>732320531
amazing
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>>732320456
The best propaganda is to just say that the Prince of the Camarilla allied with Asian vampires AND blew himself up, drew massive unwanted attention to all vampires (and use that to criticize the Masquerade), and basically you're fucking stupid if you're a Cammie.

And also giving Abrams the gargoyle to squash any non-Anarchs entering Hollywood.
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>>732307905
My waifu is an infernal and sometimes treats me worse than I treat my Szlachta
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>>732299684
I'm
Ugleh
I'm sure the one thing keeping me from malkavian is the fact that I see anyone unfamiliar as a monster
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>>732299684
>scared I'm going to get Nosferatu
>get Gangrel instead
I can unlive with this
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>>732320678
>be Tremere
>side with Isaac
>spare golem
>5 years later get a call from Isaac to visit the Chinese Theater
>stigga looks at you for nearly a full minute
>"You alright, sorc boy".
>be the ONLY Tremere in the ZIP code on friendly terms with a free garg
also the chinese theater is rennovated but misteriously only used like once a month; people think it's for exclusivity reasons

>>732297362
this dumbass thought he was being a cheeky little shit gifting such a shitty appartment but I have a near-pavlovian response to see this as comfy
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i wish we could get a good VTMB sequel with this album in the OST, shame VTM is gay and gaming is shit now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC4Gp9bEdL8
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>>732320824
>Tzimisce is a devilfucker
Kupala really fucked you guys up, huh?
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>>732313941
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOW GEN VAMPIRE IN THERE
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>>732321280
I regularly think "what music should go into the sequel" when planning the game design in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOPS0X3pbk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGQO9ncVuEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PrcN0xqq4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvD40aNzYM
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>>732321526
that third one is really good, saved
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>>732321526
>working away
>suddenly
>I S O L A T E D
Fucking 25 year old song from a video game still lives in my head rent free
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>>732299684
i got ravnos, who i guess is a clan in the second/tabletop? i only played bloodlines
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Given recent events, I now do believe that Michael Redmonds is a murderous child pornographer. Robert Thorne and his cute puppies have my vote now.
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>>732322485
It's basically a Gypsy clan
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>>732299684
>Got Lasombra yet again
I don't care anymore, just give me my Salubri GF and I'll be on my merry way.
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>>732322485
lmao you're worse than a nigger (Brujah)
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>>732305356
>the Sabbat makes no effort whatsoever to reach out and recruit
You can side with Andrei though. It doesn't change much and the ending is pretty meh but it's there.
There's also a mod for more Sabbat content and such. It's... not terrible. One of the better put together content mods at least.
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>>732321482
"Ehehehehe"
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>>732299684
>Lasombra
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>>732322825
The tz in war games looks very much like pic related. Holy shit, someone was the change they wanted to see!

Sorry for no pic of her. It was an interesting, laudable full-feature fan-mod but it was such a crashfest that I deleted all of it after finishing the game, including screenshots.
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>>732299684
gangrel, dont actually recall them from the game desu, i think they were the generic ones
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The lore and the games make being a thinblood sound bad, yeah you have less powers but you can literally go into the sun which btfo most vampires.
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>>732323353
Depends on the ST and edition, but generally: no, they can't.
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>>732323593
pretty fucking gay and lame
i'd retcon because they're the weakest and they need something to counteract that
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>>732323304
The only Gangrel NPCs besides generic enemies are Beckett and the serial killer because Clan Gangrel defected from the Camarilla prior to the game’s events, during LA By Night, and fucked off innawoods once the Kuei-jin showed up. It’s part of the reason why Lone Wolf ending feels so “right” for Gangrel, because Beckett is Autarkis and encourages the player to do their own thing rather than swear fealty to any major faction.
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>>732323353
You need a particular trait (And your ST's permission to take it) to go out in the sun without issue. Otherwise it still kills you. It doesn't kill you quite as fast true, but you are still technically a vampire. The vast majority of thinbloods don't have that trait, and the ones that do are smart usually enough to keep it to themselves.

That's not to say being a Thinblood is ALL bad, but the cons, both physical and societal, aren't worth the comparative pros.
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>>732323986
Independent is the only canon ending for Gangrel everything other one feels wrong and doesn't fit.
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>>732323986
i should replay the game and go gangrel that sounds pretty interesting, dont think i've ever played one
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>>732322870
>>732321482
>>732313941
I am actually happy that there is little to no spoilers shown when I played it. I still didnt open it, but man am I tempted.
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>>732324141
I hate being an IRL vampire who works at night, all of the cool threads only happen when my fellow Americans are asleep.

Gangrel is one of the best clans to do a low humanity run with. Focus on Strength, Stamina, Wits, Brawl, and Dodge, throw in some Intimidation for conversations, be an asshole to literally everyone until you need to be nice to LaCroix to continue the story, and you’ll get the genuine Ty Cobb experience.
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>>732323780
>they need something to counteract that
Their new v5 alchemy has some pretty broken builds, and even without those (sticking to lore that is), it's very versatile.

But ultimately vtm isn't about balance, quite the opposite. If you're on the bottom of the totem pole then you're on the bottom of the totem pole. Unless you break the whole system and kill the elders (Never gonna happen), you're stuck as the bottom bitch. You can be a useful bottom bitch, maybe even get some genuine friends above you, or if you're VERY lucky, some actual respect for your position... but that's for your position. Even the power players are just a few fewer degrees of a pawn of a pawn of a pawn of a pawn.

That's the game.
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>>732321482
You wanna get eaten?
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>>732324243
Yeah, when you know then you see the signs clear as day, but when going in blind it's very well concealed.

That's why there's the big debate about playing Malks first or not. Understanding the references vs authentic confusion/madness.
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>>732297362
Dunno
The 210 and change top the top giganigga on the left to him explains why he stays there.
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>>732324448
that's why I'd be Gangrel
you don't have to deal with clan hierarchy drama bullshit and I'd overthrow people if I could
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>>732322485
You're diablerie target no. 1.
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>>732324665
>>732324665
Real talk. I actually felt a bit of fear when that Gangrel scholar approaches you randomly in the street, afraid and is clearly spooked, warning you to not fucking open it for the sake of everyone. Man anyone who plans to play this damn game really should go in blind.
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>>732324575
Well obvz he's torped
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>>732324916
Beckett is a real nigga, he doesn't try to use you or make you his errand boy and he helps you with your missions.
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>>732325013
Torpor or not, I'm not going to fuck with an antediluvian
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>>732299684
Salubri, I assume this is like being an INFJ.
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>>732299684
the fuck is this shit i honeslty thought id get nosf
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i don't know who this is
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>>732324841
Wouldn't that be Salubri?
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>>732326295
nta but aren’t they all extinct already thanks to Tremere bullshit?
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>>732326461
No.
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>>732326263
Formally the Assamites, they're Middle Eastern justiciars and assassins
They used to hate all other kindred but one of their big wigs woke up and proclaimed there would be no worship of other gods, only their anti-diluvian Haqim. Many vamps, particularly those worshiping Allah, but also others had a problem with this, even atheists because fuck forced worship. So they broke off and most decided the Camarilla was the least offensive option.

They also used to have the bane of darkening skin as they got older, until they were just the darkest black, like obsidian. But that was retconned because problematic.
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>>732328098
Why was that not okay but Salamanders it's still fine?
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>>732326263
Assamites, but gay and lame
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>>732325079
I appreciate the thinblood soothsayer on the beach giving you advice on who to trust. She makes it clear that the lone wolf and the man on the couch are the only ones you can implicitly trust, and everyone else is playing you like a fucking fiddle.

That’s including Jack and Nines. They aren’t your friends, retards!
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>>732297362
I miss when this IP didn't suck. It was kind of the first one to fall, wasn't it?
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>>732328149
are you implying blackness is a curse?
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>>732328190
I think it was more like it attracted termites who eventually took over and devoured the building. Nobody maintained the IP. So again, failure to gatekeep. Though this is a tough one, given the types it attracts.
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>>732328216
Salamanders aren't black like africans, they're black like ash or dark iron dwarves.
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>>732328190
As much as it's a meme that was always the case for WoD. Back in the day it was just liberal until the climate changed and everyone went fucking crazy.
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>>732328335
Liberal critique is fine and common, deconstructionist and critical theory for everything less so. I liked that the IP was so well informed and infused with Catholic ... flavor. Just as Anne Rice's (earlier) books were.
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>>732297362
Who allowed you to think you could give your opinion, OP? Everyone, including you, knows your opinions are shit.
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>>732320678
I'm sorry anon but your post just got me thinking
>THIS GUY is drinking blood and sharing an apartment with super-hot ghouls and basically, you are fucking stupid
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>>732328335
>someone at your table has AIDS
Truly, the V5 experience
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>>732328335
it's fascinating what a difference phrasing can make
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>>732328149
Whitewolf and Paradox have been... "Culturally insensitive" a few too many times in the past and got a lot of backlash over it. So they're were probably just playing it safe.
Though I will say mechanically it wasn't much of a bane, so it was a positive change crunch-wise as other than MAYBE masquerade breach risks, the old bane wasn't really anything impactful. Most people just ignored or forgot about it anyway. It was one of the actually good changes from v5.
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>>732328190
It always had a reputation as the lame goth larper game, but the larper types usually kept to themselves.
Besides, they were all about pretending to be ephemeral beauties and savage sexy beasts, they didn't care about the struggles of wanting to cut your dick off or rudi
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>>732328335
very idea of the veto x card has been cancer in roleplaying
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>>732315061
>average Tremere chantry
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>>732319769
>gay shota Toreador
We heard you the first time anon, you didn't need to double and triple down on it.
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>>732326263
>Take the test thinking I'll get Tremere
>it keeps giving me banu Haqim
>I'm not Muslim
FUCKING
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>>732319839
>trusting another vampire in the first place
>trusting the Chinese
>trusting a Chinese vamp
All the signs were there anon, what the fuck did you expect?
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>>732329101
>>I'm not Muslim
Good. You should be venerating Haqim instead, anyway. That shit caused a schism in the clan.
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>>732297362
Nobody, I think he just sort of sneaked in and declared himself Prince to get the Camarilla back in LA. They tell you how tenuous his power actually is there given it's anarch territory
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>>732329141
anon is clearly frustrated that he wasn't allowed to double cross them first
granted, all the faction choices are "genuine" alliances, so it's not some weird outlier compared to cammies and anarchs, but nevertheless
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>>732329163
>Embraced
>The night when the stones spoke and the skies cried a blood rain

something tells me this ur-shulgi guy is not a boss fight I can win
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>>732300983
>POV: you are wandering around Grout's manor looking for a candelabra to pull when suddenly this punk walks in
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>>732299684
I knew it before the quiz was over.
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So chinks are some sort of demons and not vamps?
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>>732322268
>Telling people to not play Malk on first run
Terrible guide, trying to decipher future from your own mad ravings is a one of a kind experience
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>>732329825
They're mortal souls that clawed their way out of the thousand hells and back into (usually) new bodies. They're kind of a variant of risen (Wraiths possessing bodies in the skin lands) but more complicated.

They basically have an evil side of themselves that can take control of them instead of the beast and have other different qualities. Like depending on their chosen Dharma and how far they're into progressing it, they can be even more corpsy than kindred or basically alive again, warm skin, can eat food and have sex (even produce offspring in very rare cases). They rot in the sun rather than burn and have a completely different powerset than kindred.
They also don't have generations and they can't embrace people like Kindred. They have to just wait until more claw their way back to life and hope they find them before they die again (or eat too many people before coming to their senses.)

They are still sort of vampires, but not cainites. They can eat flesh, drink blood or eventually feed off people's breath out to sustain themselves, anything that carries chi.
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>>732299684
>Get Tzimisce by answering honestly
Neat
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>>732330695
Considering Lasombra are basically Venture but more extreme it might be hard to not get them when answering for Ventrue, overshadowing them and all.
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>>732299684
schizophrenia babyy
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So are there any actually interesting mods to play for it?
I've already played the original multiple times.
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>>732297362
>twink
lacroix is almost 300 yo.
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>>732297362
>powerful domination powers
>"how is this guy in charge?"
It is a mystery
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>>732299684
I always get Malkavian in these even when I'm not trying for it
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>>732331381
>Autisticly Disproportionate response
Whatever faggot
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>>732297362
I think his superiors put him into a situation they knew he wouldn't be able to handle on purpose.
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i hate that the combat and stealth is so god awful because i love the world and characters. i cant play it though. i get to downtown and then stop because i'm getting annoyed. i'm sure you faggots will just direct me towards some overhaul or mod, but if the game is a mess in vanilla, it jsut isnt a good game.
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>>732331759
Clan Quest Mod is worth a try.
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>>732332571
>some overhaul or mod,
I dont think theres one thats good enough to make the combat fun.
I just use cheats to skip boring crap like the nosferatu search with noclip, godmode to not put up with xiao and a few extra points at the start just to pretend theres a new game+
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>>732319241
>follower of Seth
>malk, that is actually highly intellectual, but had once undergone tzimische's experiments because he felt like it would allow him for better whichever
>ventrue
>gangrel mole edition
>brujah, duh
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>>732330495
I always push for doing the quiz and rolling with what the game gives you. Encouraging players to run/avoid Malk or avoid Nossie on a first run is an admission of guilt on the advice-giver’s part that they either are a Malkavian themselves, or are too much of a normalfag to appreciate the unique experiences.

I’m die-hard for Gangrel because you can do basically any kind of run with them due to how bullshit their initial stat spread is and how dank Animalism and Fortitude are, but I’m not going to tell everyone to roll it just because I love it.
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>>732330695
Yes, you can only naturally get Ventrue by choosing primarily non-combat, intelligent, gun-focused answers in the quiz. I know this because I’ve run every permutation.
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>>732332892
i like thing but i hate that its bad. urban vampirism is a great little genre even in movies. the only few times it doesnt get abused by artistic faggots to juxtapose vampirism with some weird addiction or social issue its always fun. innocent blood, lost boys, near dark, blade etc. then you have shit like The Addiction, The Hunger, Bliss, Girl walks alon home alone at night.

i really like vampire shit when it isnt pretentious. VTMB checks all those rule of cool marks for me, but man, the actual gameplay is insanely bad
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lacroix is so powerful and cool and a tactical mastermind as well, i stand with him
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>>732330686
>they can be even more corpsy than kindred or basically alive again, warm skin, can eat food and have sex (even produce offspring in very rare cases).
you can have this too as a vampire, all for the lowlow price of humanity 9-10.
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>>732331948
same, i probably need to get my head checked
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>>732334698
Damphiers aren't a thing for cainites, at least in VtM i don't know about Requirium
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Vtmb 2 troons lost
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>>732335582
there are no vtmb2 troons, nobody likes it. the guy who shilled it was just ragebaiting
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>>732334698
With the blush yeah (though you don't need that high of humanity- that a dumb v5 change so it's safe to ignore).
But Kuei-jin are just like that all the time and it doesn't cost them anything. They can still even digest that food- It doesn't do anything but they don't have to vomit it up.

Also vamps are all blood. Tears, saliva, and yes, cum. Kuei-jin are just normal.
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>>732297362
I like his unused theme
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>>732314061
As many clans I can include to have a meaningful sabbat/cammy/anarch conflict, New York, late 90s, using V20 rules.
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>>732330495
It's for the same reasons you wouldn't recommend a low INT Arcanum run first up. It's good fun, but it requires having a decent understanding of the game already to pull off and you end up missing a lot of key content.
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>>732336502
Nah, you get all the context you need and more as Malk, it's just not served in speech of others but your own
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>why did lacroix open it, is he stupid?
he was desperate, he knows deep down he's in an impossible situation, and the sarcophagus seemed like his only chance. also he's a ventrue.
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Any good Lacroix pasta?
Good evening.
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>>732299684
>mfw I am Nosferatu
God's in his heaven, all's right with the world
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>>732299684
Gangrel thread, gangrel board.
Society is overrated.
All gangrels itt are just autists.
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>>732313613
>That doesn't explain why the Sabbat is such a shitshow.
They are fascist vampires.
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>>732307683
>>732306253

He gives you money, blood and a new apartment if you're chummy with him (Yes-manning, doing every job properly)
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>>732305827
Most of the tzimisce aren't actually that involved with the Sabbat. They're kind of only there in name only to reap the benefits and because they don't want anything to do with the Camarilla because of the Tremere and don't see the anarchs as anything worth putting their time into.
The Sabbat are kind of the only ones that tolerate them too. Not just because they're useful but they're walking masquerade breaches Voluntarily. Neither the Cammys or Aranchs want to deal with that headache.
Yes you do get ones like Andrei, all self righteous and active but a lot of tzimisce just hang out in their castles building up their horde.

All that's the elder tzimisce mind you. The younger generations are becoming more involved, independent and less bound to sedentary practices like their sires. There's even an increasing number joining the Anarchs these nights.
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Mostly unrelated but is Vampyr any good if I just generally like vampires as a concept? I'd be playing as a bloodsucker and would only do one run.
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>>732340894
It's a flawed game but I enjoyed my times
It also doesn't matter if you're playing a vegan vampire or a super bloodsucker in that game, you still need to get all the character info before feeding on an NPC, even the tutorial guy that explains how feeding works in that game
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>>732340708
>There's even an increasing number joining the Anarchs these nights.
Those are bitches, thoughbeit
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>>732340708
Literally nothing you said is true.
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>>732342373
it's v5 lore porbably
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>>732342894
Doesn't the Sabbat barely exist in V5? I haven't kept up with that faggot edition.
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>>732343009
they added them back in after people complained about the "camarilla bad" writing, made them too edgy, trannies got upset again
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To be honest, the Tremere should be in charge of the Camarilla. The Pyramid is proof that they understand authority, respect, and responsibility better than any other clan.
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>>732321186
all grangrel bitches look like this
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>>732346178
Breedable
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>>732299684
>I'll probably get Tremere
>Get Banu Haqim
I didn't think ticking invisibility would carry that much weight.
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>>732343179
Early V5 writers only wanted players making thin blood anarchs
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>>732347915
yup
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Is there a worse faction in fiction than the anarchs? It's like they were written stupid as a joke.
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>>732348389
id still jack off into damsels converse
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>>732348389
A big problem is they had to censor the Sabbat, which harms the Anarchs as the Sabbat defines them
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>gangrel
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>>732350262
Why do gangrel act like niggers?
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>>732350612
you know why
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>>732350262
Who's that?
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>>732350852
Please play vtmb it's good I promise
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>>732333698
Permutations:

Combat - Social - Brawl: Brujah, Gangrel

Combat - Social - Melee: Gangrel, Tremere

Combat - Social - Guns: Malkavian, Tremere

Combat - Stealth - Brawl: Brujah, Gangrel

Combat - Stealth - Melee: Gangrel, Nosferatu

Combat - Stealth - Guns: Gangrel, Nosferatu

Combat - Intellect - Brawl: Brujah, Gangrel

Combat - Intellect - Melee: Gangrel, Toreador

Combat - Intellect - Guns: Nosferatu, Toreador

Non-Combat - Social - Brawl: Gangrel, Toreador

Non-Combat - Social - Melee: Nosferatu, Toreador

Non-Combat - Social - Guns: Malkavian, Toreador

Non-Combat - Stealth - Brawl: Gangrel, Nosferatu

Non-Combat - Stealth - Melee: Gangrel, Nosferatu

Non-Combat - Stealth - Guns: Malkavian, Nosferatu

Non-Combat - Intellect - Brawl: Malkavian, Tremere

Non-Combat - Intellect - Melee: Malkavian, Tremere

Non-Combat - Intellect - Guns: Malkavian, Ventrue
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>>732297362
Some Camarilla higher ups East of the Rockies that either got really fed up with his shit, or wanted to have a laugh at his expense and maybe get him killed in a 2 for 1 deal.
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>>732345856
Maybe on paper, but the Pyramid fell apart faster than a thin-blood’s Humanity meter when Wi-Fi goes out. Tremere leadership peaked back when Goratrix was still throwing fits in his lab. Now it's just a mess of Chantries backstabbing each other and hoping no one notices Vienna went kaboom. Honestly, if anyone should be running the Camarilla, it’s probably the Ventrue, if only because they’re the only ones still pretending this whole masquerade thing is working.
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v5 isn't canon
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>>732320189
Admit it, you wanted some hot tentacle action
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>>732351112
tell that to paradox and the Swedish LARPers
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>>732350612
socio-economic factors
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>>732351519
Enlightening frankly
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>>732351519
Translation: "Dont trust the twink"
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>>732350612
If not being a simp means acting like a nigger, then yeah, I'm the niggerest of them all.
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>>732299684
To be a Vampire is to be the ULTIMATE depraved Bisexual.
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stop liking psycho women
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>>732322825
>Be literal eons old reality warping undead monsters capable of the most disgusting feat of arcane prowess
>There's an entire offshoot entirely dedicated to unlocking the secrets of the flesh and the mastery over body and mind to fucking eldritch levels
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VAMPIRES CAN'T GET PREGNANT SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUP"
>"see those chinese zombies? yeah they can pop childrens who cares lmao"
why God
why
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>>732332245
why is one of her boobs bigger then the other
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>>732353380
attention to detail and realism
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>>732353380
Virgin-kun...
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>>732299684
Very nice
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>>732353380
how old are you
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>>732353380
Not even wearing a bra, no wonder she ended up being a sex slave
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>>732320456
bwahahaha wtf, did they get Gehenna'd?
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>bwahahaha wtf, did they get Gehenna'd?
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>>732355108
I only recently realized she's a Yuffie reference
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>>732355693
She's a "generic Japanese female teenager in the early zeds" reference.
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>>732299684
brah who the fuck is the hecata, they do sound cool
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>>732353879
>if you don't know everything about female anatomy you are a virgin
retard
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>>732356071
They're ass.
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>>732356071
They cool because necromancers, but significantly less cool than the original Cappadocians
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>>732299684
This quiz is bullshit
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>>732319996
We know who put her into power tho, Lou being really in charge isn't exactly a secret.
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>>732355693
I think she's a Blood the Last Vampire reference
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>>732356435
my ancestors
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>>732356645
It is, the controlled testing I've been doing has made me realize that it's heavily skewed towards the most heavily reworked clans in V5 so newfags will play those clans, even though they suck now.
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>>732356757
I wish you could actually side with her, what a waste.
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>>732356852
still haven't played it
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>>732357146
I honestly enjoy shooting the zombies in the cult and the graveyeard sections, very satisfying when they get gibbed.
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>>732357403
Discovering that Jamie Sue hits for over 100 damage on a headshot and the reason the game gives it to you in the Monastery is so you don't spend 10 minutes dealing with Bach's immunity phases because you can kill him in 4 headshots and you don't even have to chase him around the arena really changed how I feel about the game.
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>>732328963
>go to LARP
>another character does his master stroke and decisively defeats you
>tap X veto card
>don't have to even say why or what, he just insta-loses
What a messed up mechanic, especially in a game that's supposed to be for 90s edgelords
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I don't understand why didn't Paradox just do a remake of VTMB instead of making a shit awful sequel?
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>>732357630
That would've sucked.

The entire point of 2, as written, is that Phyre doesn't know their history. Requiem, as a setting, has the Fog of Eternity that clouds the memories of vampires that go into torpor. These vampires write Requiem Diaries to help them remember what they're going to forget, but they usually write in code so, if their sleeping corpse is found, no one can loot their knowledge and take advantage of it. 2 should have been the first Vampire: The Requiem game. We could've avoided the embarrassment of trying to bring 2004 into 2025, because Masquerade doesn't work, as a setting, outside of 1989-2004.
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>>732356852
I found myself disliking her immediately because of the way she talked down to you, and she was the only character I was hostile to.
I told Mother Hen to take her out, and that turned out to be a waste of a choice.

I do agree tho, in a game about choices there should have been a Ryong route.
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>>732357021
Honestly, it's worth a pirate.
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I forgot to mention that requiem diaries written in code usually become indecipherable to the vampire who wrote it, because they forgot the code they used to write their notes down before entering torpor.
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>>732357914
but how would they decipher-

>>732358128
oh, then what's the fucking point, I hate when characters are written retarded on purpose
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>>732357914
>is that Phyre doesn't know their history
I thought she just couldn't remember anything about why she went into torpor and what happened to her while in torpor, at some point she talks about what she was before being a vampire (player choice).
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>>732331948
most of 4chan would consist of malks and nosferatu if we're being honest with ourselves
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>>732299684
i don't need a test to be told i'm gangrel
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>>732299684
>>732358368
i got nosferatu :)
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>>732358223
The point is to separate vampirism from the Old Testament. Unlike in Masquerade where every vampire absolutely, definitely descended from Caine, and the Hebrew God is real and in charge of everything, Requiem uses the Fog to make it genuinely impossible to determine how vampires started in the Chronicles of Darkness. Without being restricted to the Middle East, it allows the setting to exist without the embarrassment of the Kuei-jin and weird Sub-Saharan African, New World, and Australian freakshows that are somehow still connected to Caine.

Don't get me wrong, V20 Masquerade is significantly more fun than 2e Requiem... but only if you're with a group that actually lived in a pre-smart phone world. If you don't have that, Masquerade is just cringe instead of cringekino. Requiem, in my opinion, is the better setting to run in current year, unlike the dogshit that is V5 Masquerade.

Masquerade, if you'll recall, had 2005 be the end of its setting... until it wasn't. Because fuck you, nigger.
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>>732355693
FF7 didn't come up with girl ninjas, lol newfag
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>>732301334
more like spirits are too gay to not be bitches
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>>732358450
based furfag
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>>732358596
i just like animals and nature man...
i just think they're cool and amazing with how some of them work
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>>732358682
yeah yeah, furry
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>>732358523
2005? Not 2000 and the turn of the millennium? What was special about 2005?
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>>732358725
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>>732350852
One of your friends from your mortal life that you utterly vanished from one night.
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>>732355693

Yukie is a reference to Saya from the Blood+ franchise
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>>732359271
that show sucked ass nigga
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>>732358790
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>>732359484
I guess you could say the old world really did begin to end in 2005.
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>>732356763
>>732359271
the arm 'shield' thing tho is very specific
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>>732359271
There were sequels?
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>>732359635
looks nothing like yuffies armguard you spastic
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sex with vampire twinks
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>>732297362
Another reason why playing Malkavian is great - your Malk sees through the local Camarilla power structure immediately and isn't shy about saying it if you choose certain dialogue options around certain characters.
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>>732359464
Which one? I agree that the original movie is a mindless slop and that C is a trashy gore fest, but the 2005 Plus anime is a genuinely good urban fantasy action series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GepvEq1HGyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDrc1nIKlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4Q2E67U7w

>>732359707
yes. only the 2005 one is good
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>>732359926
> 2005 Plus anime is a genuinely good urban fantasy action series

Fuck off. It starts of good with that scene where she goes insane in vietnam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM7ttUD9qzY
then proceeds to do nothing for however many dozens of episodes there are, something almost happens, then they pull it back, over and over again

it's stretched so thin it is absolutely infuriating to watch
also no, yukie wasn't a reference to it you schizo
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>>732299684
>click on a sketchy link for a quiz
>quiz: would you click on a sketchy link for a quiz
>"no I don't want them to have my data"
I got Tzimisce btw
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>>732360198
try repeating all of that but without the waterfall of rabies foam coming out of your mouth. you are also wrong. Yukie is a reference to Saya from the original 2000 Last Vampire movie
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>>732359904

tfw no Malkavian gf
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>>732360514
>tfw malkavian gf
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>>732297693
begone THOT
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>>732360442
you're right they're both vampire hunters and have same sort of sleeve armor, even the twin tails are the same
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>>732360557
>no retarded brujah gf
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>>732299684
You belong with the Banu Haqim!
The Judges of the Banu Haqim are torn between their hereditary thirst for Blood and their passion for justice. Stern adjudicators, they are fiercely devoted to upholding a moral code, and Embrace mortals capable of assessing and handling threats, enforcing laws and traditions, and punishing transgressors.
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>>732319905
>>732361058
please tell me she wasn't shaving her pits, pubes, and legs when she was turned
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why is everyone getting banu haqim? the whole quiz is sus
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>>732352665
She is not that big
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>>732361439
she's bigger
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>>732361307
>>732356791
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Which clan has the biggest tallest vampire bitches
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>>732361307
Maybe. Could also be that its just the same kinds of people taking the quiz
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you buys didn't rat out Mercurio, right?
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>>732361457
for you
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>>732361516
Gangrel, Tzimisce and Followers of Set if we're being cheeky.

>>732361539
Never do.
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>>732361539
>>732361660
you seem to be confusing what you'd personally would want to do (if you were cool and a vampire and stuff), and what the vampire you're roleplaying as would want to do
this is what happens when kids grow up on computers
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>>732341705
>Those are bitches, thoughbeit
>Bitches
>One of the few clans that is able to learn amazing sorcery and druid elemental shit.
>Slowly overtime leaking their blood in the land. Knowing everything thats happening, able to speak to the plants&animals ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THE SPIRITS INCLUDING THE ONES "NOT ON EARTH, BUT ON EARTH".
>Able to create their own based as fuck chemtrails in their large area, chemtrails so degenerate,evil&blatantly and not only masquerade violating but also rings up the technocratic union.
>Chemtrails that once again are forcing DARPA&NSA&CIA to actively wasting everything, over 9000 resources across the board all to hunt the dude and have failed for years.

>That's when the technocratic union got involved
>Worked out a great deal, thus keeping the guy on retainer giving him whatever he asks for.
>Thus When things are so bad, and the union needs a diversion BOOM call in a mid gen high tier fucking tzimisce sorcerer.

>Don't fuck with the old clan Tzimsce, you'll be praying you got turned into fine China &or an Ottaman for eternity.
>How can sorcery be as powerful than as the meme fleshcrafting,

simple the old clan is very secretive. They only select gigachad humans to become ghouls for eons, make them suffer like crazy. Till finally giving them the gift.
Said sorcery is almost as powerful as true real vulgar magik from a mage. Its the sorcery derived from lillith herself .

To be a Tzmisce and keep getting an century older, is another inch on your massive dick. This is THE clan and only wants the best and brightest, AND TO PROVE IT NO MATTER WHAT WHEN OR WHERE. When someone challenges you.
And hands get thrown up, time stops for a few seconds. then reality kicks in the fight happens in super super super slowmo.

Someone dies brutally
everyone cheers like crazy no matter the outcome.
Becasue these fights are amazing to witness it'll be best in your life/unlife.
Even if dude is getting dominated and it lasts 10 seconds
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>>732361724
I was told by a batshit Hispanic woman raving on the beach after I gave her a sawbuck that I can trust him, and goddamn it, I trust her sweet wetback chica ass.
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>>732361516
tzimisce of course
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>>732361660
>Followers of Set
fucgg imagine a 10 foot Egyptian lady
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>>732297362
the jewmarilla
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>>732361920
no
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>>732300717
based andy
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camarilla: white peepo
anarchs: black peepo
sabbat: jews
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>>732361920
aren't the tremere vampire jews
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>>732319839
they don't have respect or honor, they betrayed and lied to wong ho.
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>>732357538
oh my fucking god
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>>732320050
>hundred years old
he's just a kid
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>>732357538
>think i solved the game
>learn new bullshit about it
>become angry for no reason
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>>732362373
Griffith Park, whatever happened there...
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>>732328216
yup
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>>732361778
I am a Tzimisce, any who join the Anarchs are bitches. I like your post though.
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I have never done a run with guns but I didn't want to deal with ammo management.Should I make a guns Toreador? And what ending should I go for? I have never done the LaCroix loyalist or Kue-Jin endings.
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You weren't filtered by combat sections, right?
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>>732362067
them as well. also sewer rats. they infiltrate clans and take over, that's why Cappadocians are Giovanni now. well more like jewovanni
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>>732363010
I use stealth as much as possible to save healng items for the Ming Xiao fight
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>>732353091
Because TTRPG lore is weird like that. Just look at early Warhammer 40k and poop eating.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Jm1dgoe0r5U?si=abTQXHpsMQJTgZ3V
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>>732363140
just buy a flame thrower... that's almost half her health, then Aug her down, if she's still alive some dragons breath
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>>732362993
Malkavian, Tremere, and Toreador all have Auspex, which innately make them great for running guns. Certain disciplines also help with ranged combat. Malkavian, Tremere, and Ventrue all benefit from using guns along with Domination/Dementation, as do Gangrel and Nosferatu using Animalism.

In my opinion, Malkavian and Toreador are two of the better clans to get into gunplay with. Auspex really is that powerful, and you don't have to feel like you're giving up something like Tremere's Thaumaturgy to raise it. Furthermore, both Malkavian and Toreador have an easy time getting haggling high enough so purchasing ammo is a non-issue.
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>>732362067
>tremere = Rich goys
>lasombra = Jews
>tzimisce = Rothchilds
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>>732357630
I think Activision still owns the rights to the original content in VtMB, Paradox only got VtM.

I don't really think Activision wants to do much with VtMB after the turmoil of developing it. I don't think I'd really want a remake but I've been wanting a proper engine port of it for a while just putting it onto a newer version of Source.
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>>732362993
guns are so fucking shit at first
even against normal ass gangster humans id rather have the first melee weapon for 3 hours of gameplay than the revolver
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>>732357630
I imagine some behind the scenes shenanigans happened. Remember, apparently the first version that the first devs made was SO BAD they had to scrap it and do it all over again. The VTM 2 we see is probably just some higher ups trying to write it off.
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>>732361272
all that matters is that she can beat the shit out of me bite and rape me
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>>732363745
The first revolver is pretty good against Gimble. It's not really meant to be a primary weapon otherwise, you're better off just using Blood Buff and punching people if you have no combat stats at the start.
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>>732363743
a remake would fail 100% knowing Activision and the total BlackRock monopoly withholding of every major game company . They would ruin the lighting and goth atmosphere, and censor shit for the faggot modern audience. While either outsourcing to indians like with rockstar or just turning it into unreal slop like Crapcum. Either way it would either slander the og from pigslop eaters or it would be another VTMB2 situation.
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>>732363743
People forget that Activision activly wanted Bloodlines to crash and burn and only tried in vain to shove it out on a beta version of Source Engine BEFORE HL2 came out so they could get the claim of "first source game"
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>>732363745
>>732364053
combat knife + bloodbuff carries until you get 5 pips into guns or boost auspex enough and can use the shotty and .44 without a penalty
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>>732364187
I've never forgotten that Activision is an objectively evil company. That burden of knowledge is painful and isolating.
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>>732363718
wait nah it's

>Tremere = Rags to Riches
>Ventrue = WASP nepo babies
>lasombra = Jews
>tzimisce = Rothchilds
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>>732358523
I mean you could just have/be a GM that just writes around that so you can play V20 Masquerade post 2005. I'm sure people have.
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>>732364334
<<<TREMERE DETECTED>>>
>>>TREMERE DETECTED<<<
<<<TREMERE DETECTED>>>
>>>TREMERE DETECTED<<<
<<<TREMERE DETECTED>>>
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>>732359567
Nah, without spiraling into politics, I still say it unraveled at 9/11. It's just history is a very slow process and things take come to really come to fruition.

If anything the last 10 years is probably the consequences of alot of shit from the past 50 or so years. shit's complicated yo.
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>>732364365
I genuinely cannot believe I could be immersed in Masquerade after the First World became a self-surveillance society following the release of the smart phone for the masses in 2007, as well as the opening of the global forum around the same period of time.

>>732364495
September 11th was the killing of the hope of the New Millennium. It was a metaphorical child sacrifice.
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>>732364296
It's not really isolating when EVERYONE, even Normies can be aware of how shit the company is. But they produce COD slop and there are still people that grew up and keep buying COD Slop, so what can you do.
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>>732359926
>>732360442
>tfw you will never spend cozy mid 2000s evenings watching late night supernatural kino on that one TV block that broadcasted anime every day
oh the memories
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>>732364586
a bit melodramtic. The first quarter has been shit, but not like good shit didn't happen in between. And there could still be good shit to come. I have hope.
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>>732361906
>10 foot Egyptian lady
>Literal 75lb each water mellon breasts, that are beyond perfect.
>No sag, completely firm in place, but it feels so soft when grabbed, nothing can describe the feel, its that good!
>Massive hips can give birth to a dozen humans at once with no fucks given.
>Perfectly tan skin, gemstone quality green eyes, lips that give a massive erection, watching them slowly twitch when talking causes anyone to coom, A face that paralyzes all that look at her, silky smooth hair pick your colour other than bright blonde.


>Literally a perfect goddess
>A form crafted by god straight from organic marble
This woman is literally cursed she is unable to walk in public. Everyone stops what they are doing, her gaze is to powerful. Shes was a follower of Lillth, someone had a melty because she went no get away from me you nasty fucker. Poof somehow against all odds hit with a powerful curse she WAS 6'2 AT FIRST, then she became a high test giantesses destroyer of mens libido&prostates.
>Just one look and you wont be able to stop clenching your prostate&penis super hard repeatedly fast as fuck as if you are fapping.
>You coom in public like some pathedic basedboy, but then realize so did a bunch of other people.
>Your vision is free now you are not looking at her you run like hell away


Part vampire part succubus 1488% body of a goddess
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>>732364846
You either have that mental disorder that suppresses your emotional responses or you didn't get to live through the peak of human civilization, which was in America between 1985 and 1999. Humanity has culturally stagnated since 2007, specifically. The blips of happiness you think you feel are but a fraction of the euphoria people felt during the 90s.
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>>732362993
I once made a Tremere blood rambo. Speccing into guns and blood armor had me just waltzing through and venting everything.
It was actually very satisfying just ripping through the chink bitch unfun shit boss.
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>>732365019
Does that exist or are just LLMing something?



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