Mewgenics reviews are out, it's all 9s and 10sEdmund has once again completely outdone himself. Prepare for 250 hours of tactical cat kino
Nah I'm not playing rpg brainrot, sorry
looks like AI
>>732418787Trash game made by human garbage.
>>732418787looks like a reddit tier game, will probably pirate and try it some day
edmund is very clearly brain damaged but it only makes him more powerful
>>732418850Pretty sure it is AI. Bet this whole slop game is AI generated dogshit
>>732418787probably gonna fucking love this game despite it looking like rancid vomit. luv turn basedluv isaac style mechanics where powerups and game systems overlap and feedback on each other in weird and unique ways each run 'ate dogs (not racist just dont like em)luv me catssimple as
Is this his next Isaac?
>>732419724>Qualityslop
I hope he's learned a lesson from the top QoL mods of isaac and just made all similar shit baseline
>>732419873Lmao. Enjoy your steak.
>>732419873
Mcmud is an indie darling.Guy spent half his money on buying Chris Chan diapers.
>roguelike game looks bad>Fun to playMany such cases, why not make it look good too? Tiny rogues, loop hero, ballxpit, wall world, Hades even. I like these sloptype games but they all look like shit
I'll get Carmageddon in 2 hours. At least I will wait to see if anyone thinks it's fun.They didn't put a pre purchase option so I am hopeful it might be an honest game. It's more like a Carmageddon side game than an actual sequel.
>Been playing Edmund's games since Newgrounds days>Love tactical RPG's>Love cats>Have zero interest in MewgenicsI don't know how they made such a boring, unappealing game, but they did.I was more excited when it was a Pokemon Clone that Tommy was working on.
Nevermind, it's going to be $40. Lol, I am out until a -50%.>>732420286
>$30 USDGood luck with that one.
>>732419873Chew slower.
>>732418787Oh so eugenics is good when kittens do it?
Edmund has the (((politically correct opinions))) so of course retarded critics are going to slobber his knob.
Ive read some of the reviewsAnd i will post some of the negatives found.- Item set bonuses were not an explained mechanic and many items that were secretly part of a set were never stated they were. - Many hidden mechanics in the home regarding your cats are all active from the start of the game, but are only explained and given ui for once you reach specific town upgrades. This attempt to not frontload the player with too much at once only led to confusion as for example, two cats of mine were fighting often in my most comfortable room without learning why until much later because secretly they hated each other - While RNG is a given for the genre, Mewgenics rng can feel over the top at times- while events and combat itself i can be riskmanaged with time, level up choices less so. with classes having over 70 possible abilities, 25 passives not to mention collarless ones, and only 4 options out of this gigantic pool, sometimes RNG would lowroll very hard, giving only weaker skills or only things that caused anti-synergy with my current build that I had spent time perfecting this cat for. Because of this, reroll items felt like a neccesary insurance and i was constantly juggling my reroll items between my cats.
>>732421961there's literally a gay stereotype in the game, he fucks with both sides of the aisle
>>732419087I feel like what is 'reddit', is just what was vogue in the 2010s and late 2000s.
>>732421961Edmund isn't a leftoid thougbeit
>>732422126Another i forgot.The house ui gets bad once you have 30+ cats.Sure 30+ cats running and fooling around in small boxes may be adorable, but it is a nightmare to select and micromanage
>>732422360I don't think redditors read Vogue.
>>732422491*It's in with the People's Magazine.
>>732422360Among redditors.
>>732422126>- Item set bonuses were not an explained mechanic and many items that were secretly part of a set were never stated they were.I was literally thinking this when I was seeing gameplay. "Where the fuck is the tooltip for this?"I swore at some point it did exist but maybe it just got lost or something.It's like Edmund wanted to clarify all information in this game but he's still obsessed with hiding information from the player arbitrarily (like that boss with the invisible bear traps or the enemies that disguise themselves, what's stopping a player from just putting a sticky note on their screen when this happens)
>>732422126>Item set bonuses were not an explained mechanic and many items that were secretly part of a set were never stated they were.if i keep reading are the rest of these complaints going to be based around steakmund's overall approach to game design?
>>732422743>>732422745>game boasts about its insane amount of variance and synergies>he's STILL doing this steak-chewing bullshit even after conceding that he was wrong and adding an official item descriptions component to issac (which is still worse than external item descriptions)Jesus fucking christ. This shit gives me pause because tactical RPGs are like the one genre where you REALLY shouldn't withold information from the player because there's no avenue that the player can use to compensate for suboptimal choices.It's not like in Issac where theoretically you could just beat the whole game without picking up a single item if you "just don't get hit lol".
>>732422743>Fenrir hiding invisible traps>Just use sticky notesTo be fair that attack is the entire point of the fight and he thinks people tracking with pen and paper is cool and very on theme with the dnd & mtg inspirations for the game.Tyler fucked with Edmund on stream and told him wrong trap spots on edmunds gameplay playthrough lmao>>732422745Pretty much. The only really unexplained mechanics was item sets. Items for the most part were very RAW (rules as written) and the only confusion from them was very niche synergies or antisynergies that make sense once you actually think how they would interact. The steak was item sets and mechanics that are told later in the game being secretly there from the beginning.
Reminder that Edmund hired Chris-chan to both do promotional art for this game and be a voice actor.
>eugenics supportyikes
>>732418787>wikislopenicsoutsourcing tooltips to the community to pretend the game is deeper than it actually is is some scummy shit. no buy
>>732418787How rougelite-y is it? I like tactical RPGs but loathe most roguelikes. Is Mewgenics similar to Something like Darkest Dungeon in that you can permanently lose characters, but also breed the good until you have a steroid ridden cat that can just rape everything?
>>732423801Runs are like 2+ hours each. You keep any gear you get and your cats get mutations, modifications, diseases, abilities, ect. while on a run. Cats retire after a run and can be used for breeding traits and special house boss encounters, you cannot do normal runs with them again though due to good builds being able to completely nuke the entire game. So it's pretty roguelike-y but the runs are really long and there is constant meta progression that involves the characters that survive your run (or join your party mid run)
>>732423203>there's no avenue that the player can use to compensate for suboptimal choicesNo tactical rpg is ever hard enough that you need to play optimally to win.
>>732423468I thought he had dropped all contact with chris after the whole elderly rape
>>732424492Nope.https://youtube.com/watch?v=mNOtMEYRjww
>>7324238011) Your cats have permadeath and will eventually die of old age2) if you lose a run, you also lose all items that party had.3) your cats can (usually) only go on one run before retiring. Retired cats can only be useful for breeding or donating to some npcs.4) kittens inherit some but not all of their parents abilities, mewtations, personality traits and passives. Injuries cannot be inherited.5) this is because a cat can be made into any class, including collarless which only gets classless abilities.6) the runs are roguelike. Risk management is a big aspect of this.>>732424492He was partially acquitted. His only charge was incest.
>>732423468CWC may not be evil, but he's completely nuts. He's literally a motherfucker.
I kneel, Breadmund. I should've chewed slower.
>>732424773He's honestly a victim, a girl talked him into doing that shit to his mother, you can't blame a guy like Chris for going through with it, he's literally retarded
>>732424930Nah, even his half brother Josh called Chris out on being a bad autist. Functioning autists aren't wheelchair and bib retards, those are low functioning, you could say his upbringing and neuro-divergence made him into a bad person. But he is not infallible.
>>732418787*Nukes your review score and gives your game a "this is a game in this genre for sure"*Nothing personel kid
>>732421197its 30 bucksshould've been less than 25
>Has had several girlfriends>Is not a virgin>Doesn't live at home>Has a drivers license>Graduated community college with an associate degree >Makes money off his own independent art Does Chris-Chan mog you?
>>732425306LOL! it should be $10 max
>>732425390It should've been free.
>>732425306>>732425390You are poor
>>732418787>it's all 9s and 10sthere are many in the 8s and even in the 7s. I'm sure the game will be fine but if you're going to shill, cmon, be realistic.
>>732419724rushing to shill it while it had 2 reviews is a joke. it's at 19 reviews now and sitting at 90. wait until it hits 100 reviews before thinking the number is relevant at all, it could be under 80 by then for all we know.
>>732419873Nope. Lots of stuff doesn't tell you what it actually does, lots of features are designed around the player being a dumb human and not paying attention.No indication on Magnet that it's electricity-based and that means it'll trigger on anything wet or touching water in a group, and no real magnets are not electric and do not conduct in water. No indication Bait Trap is putting food on the floor that heals enemies or can even be used to heal your own cats. No turn reset or undo button in a game where a misclick can cost you a run that might last 2 hours. There's a lot of stupid mechanics like a miniboss that throws out bear traps, and you see where they land before they turn invisible. So everyone will just play with a mod that shows you where they landed permanently, while unmodded people need to play a memory game. Multiple other enemies use the same mechanic, like mimics that pretend to be rocks.This game will probably be like an annoying 8/10 base that becomes a mildly less annoying 9/10 with mods, similar to Isaac but not as explosive.
>>732422743>I swore at some point it did exist but maybe it just got lost or something.yeah this is the worst part, the gameplay from 4 months ago showed you what set each item belonged to and then they cut that tiny bit of text from their box "for the mystery" like 3 months ago.
>>732425901After Monster Train 2 added an undo button I could never go back. Roguelites are full of bullshit and I have a lot of fun re-trying to see if I had a way to win (and most often I do, and I get better by experiencing it). Now that you reminded me that this game won't have it, I want to kill myself... I'll still buy it though.That said, magnets are NOT electric. All your complaints are actually pretty spot-on honestly. I will still, for sure, enjoy the game.
>>732423463>The only really unexplained mechanics was item sets.Not really true at all.Basically every house mechanic is hidden until you unlock them 1 by 1. We've seen save files a dozen hours in that didn't unlock almost any of that info. It's pretty fucking important to know if your cat is gay in the cat breeding sim so you're not wasting your in-game food and days trying to get them to have kids. The elemental system is cool but ENTIRELY based on trial and error mechanics. Is it intuitive that electricity arcs in water? Sure. But why is this info found nowhere in game? We already know some of the shit isn't logical, like why does freezing grass mean you take damage if you walk over it? It's still just fucking grass even if it's cold. We don't even know what shit like the sound and holy elements interact with, but they're in game so they obviously have combos somewhere.>Items for the most part were very RAW (rules as written)For the most part means it's useless because you won't know until you try it. Absolutely nobody is going to know what Bait Trap does based on the text, because the text tells you 1 thing you can use it for instead of what the ability does. Range isn't listed on skills. There are items like Fancy Bow that we have no fucking clue what it does, because the text box has a quip in it.
>>732425364>Has had several girlfriendssame>Is not a virginsame>Doesn't live at home... fuck. but I'm doing it to save money. Also it's my gf's home. I'll give the point to Chris-Chan. 1-0.>Has a drivers licensesame>Graduated community college with an associate degree I have a Master's. 1-1>Makes money off his own independent art I have a profitable job.Hooray, it's even.
>a game made by Edmund McMillen has obtuse and hidden mechanics, many of which can fuck over unfamiliar playerswow, an incredible revelation
>>732418850That looks like AI to you? Jeets be crazy, man. AI is obvious to everyone but them.
>>732418847you look at what this game is, and the rpg parts are where you draw the line? lol fucking retard
>>732426359Agreed. It's not even uncommon in TRPG games, Into The Breach has TWO resets (undo action and reset turn). Why does Mewgenics have none at all? Probably because the dev mindset is "haha you got fucked over, that is funny, please laugh". They designed it like that on purpose after all, with stuff like the bear traps you can just track with sticky notes. The only reason the mechanic exists is troll you harder than if it was invisible to begin with because you know you could have gone the tedious route of marking them somehow. They even admitted in the videos that many testers literally used physical sticky notes, it's an intentional inconvenience they know many players will just mod out of the game.I still think the core of the game will be strong like with Isaac, but damn does it suck that the devs making games with good cores can't just make the game not annoying. It's a mod game for sure.
Isn't this the same guy who got really butthurt at people pointing out his games just aren't fun to play
>>732418787This will be extra fun because I like Isaac's community and mechanics, but I don't like Bullet Hells or traditional leaning Roguelikes. Strategy, RPG, Perma Progress, this is everything I enjoy.
>>732426981Be more specific?
>>732425901All of these complaints are good things, actually.Undo buttons can only exist in games without RNG anyway.
>>732425306How does he get off charging $30 after silksong dropped for $20? Banking on Isaac cultists paying anything?
>>732426981>his games just aren't fun to playHow? I mean both of his two most popular games are literal staples of the genre. This thread literally wouldn't exist if his games weren't fun to play by significant portion of /v/.
tactics and turn based games are for smart people, I'm a dumb dumb that wants a dedicated jump button to enjoy my gaming
>>732426759It's less a revelation and more a warning because this time he chose a TRPG.>>732427163>Undo buttons can only exist in games without RNG anyway.Completely untrue, see Monster Train 2. They just need to seed the RNG so you can't reset for a new result. If they wanted to they could put more effort in with shit like resets only applying to non-RNG moves, while RNG moves have a toggle-able warning that at least stops misclicks from fucking your run.
>>732427173sunk cost fallacy, the first trailer dropped 13 years ago. it has like 8 years of total dev time behind it, with all of the past 6 years having him focus on it.
>>732427173That's the bigger crime here, the guy has like 3 and a half series that basically helps him sail on familiarity and credibility. 'Of course the guy that helped make Meat Boy, Isaac and PooPooPeePeeRockPaperScissor 3 would make a good game, I'll check it out'. But OG Isaac was like $15 USD in 2013, same with Meat Boy.Even more current examples of pricier indies like UFO 50 or Bomb Rush are only $25.
>>732427173Silksong isn't even worth $20, it's not a new game.
>>732427163>Undo buttons can only exist in games without RNG anyway.I've played plenty of games with Undo buttons and RNG. They either lock in RNG at the start of the turn, or they have a limit on undos. If you can only undo 1 time a turn, that's sufficient for cancelling out misclicks or rare fuckups without letting people essentially savescum.
>>732427503Bomb Rush is $40
>>732427173Spelunky 2 was $15 I remember almost feeling bad that Derek made it as cheap as he did. I don't think there's anything wrong with Ed pricing this 30 however he COULD have priced it 20 or 25, he doesn't need the extra money that much
>people actually want undolmaoGo play some XCOM ironman and man the fuck up.
>>732427745OHOh...
>>732427769>he doesn't need the extra money that muchpricing a game higher doesn't make more money lolhigher price = less sales
>>732426759What obtuse hidden mechanics that can fuck over unfamiliar players were there in SMB?
>>732418787i miss the original concept
>>732427347>They just need to seed the RNG so you can't reset for a new result.So you can use your 50% stun skill on the enemy you want to stun, every time you go to use it, and undo and target the one you want to damage if it doesn't hit. Seeded undoes would make a big change to your power level.RNG moves locking you out of undo is a perfectly viable suggestion though, sure. Things like your basic attack could still be- well, unless you have one of those skills that puts a poison chance on your basic attack. But your movement can- except for times you have equipment that randomly spawns pickups when you walk, I guess, or certain weather effects... and one zone sometimes has invisible enemies appearing at the start of encounters, and literally anything you do there might reveal it or confirm the enemy's not present...But those remaining 30% of actions — sure, there's no reason you couldn't. I'm sure there's no way an undo button this fickle would make players more annoyed than one not existing to begin with.
I think it could have a planning phase and an execute phase, but I'll wait and see how the game flows.There will most likely be ways to mitigate the losses and RNG later on.
>>732427820XCOM actually tells you what the moves do before you use them. Mewgenics is an RNG fuckfest where the game actively hides how things work. What does it mean when Queen Hippo's textbox just says "Has heart problems"? Just figure it out yourself, and you can go fuck yourself if you lose because part of that hidden effect is that she gains movement range each turn, should have known heart problems means she doubles her movement range on turn 1.
>>732427173Silksong is just a Hollow Knight expansion guised as a new game. They had the gall to charge more for a dlc than Hollow Knight
>>732420286wtfi didn't think it was possible to erase the soul from a carmageddon game entirely.
Edmund won. /v/ lost...
console release when
>>732428545i think they said the switch is the only console they might do
>>732428545According to streams, they'd like to get it on Switch (2?) eventually.No idea when.
>>732428457I heard Edmund is a descendant of Hitler, not a good look....
>>732425207>RPG Fan>this game is an RPGgod tier review
>>732428021>Seeded undoes would make a big change to your power level.Yeah and with a game that has a 6 year dev cycle they could have accounted for that. Perhaps with less swingy moves that are "50% chance to lose 50% chance to win". > I'm sure there's no way an undo button this fickle would make players more annoyed than one not existing to begin with.You're larping. It exists in thousands of games just fine. Absolutely nobody is doing 50 turn resets in Monster Train 2 just because it's optimal. Most players would only touch a Mewgenics turn reset when they fucked up if it was set up correctly. Only a shitty game designer wouldn't be able to find a way to set it up.
>>732428545console players should be executed
>>732428704>nobody is doing 50 turn resetsyou don't understand the power of autism and sometimes it's better not to let people do what they want because they will choose the retarded and shitty option
>>732428317>There will most likely be ways to mitigate the losses and RNG later on.A lot of it is just baked into the core game. 5% chances to do shit are always going to be annoying even after whatever ways to manipulate it are applied. Losing a team of cats and gear because none of your chances went well is probably going to have some ways to mitigate it sure, but you can't get back the hour spent in the run. This game advertises a 200+ hour campaign, and a lot of the reviews confirm that what it really is is 30 hours of content, 70 hours of grinding goals, and 100 hours of making up lost runs and repeating shit until it lines up.
>>732428370You can lose things, play suboptimally and still have a fun time. Unless you're somehow incapable, which implies some mental damage. You don't have to be guaranteed a perfect run to have a good game.
>>732428850i do understand. Monster Train 2 recently dipped down in reviews because of a new paid DLC but it's still really loved and the undo button is a large part of why. Nobody wants to lose an hour long run over a misclick, even in games like STS without an official reset people do unofficial resets by closing the game and reloading it.
Game seems like darkest dungeon in the sense that progress loss is permanent and RNG can easily fuck you over which means ill probably enjoy itI played almost 800 hours of isaac without installing item descriptions and I still dont use the official implementation so I guess I fully enjoy whatever edmund's philosophy is
>>732429118It sounds like you're the one with mental damage. The problem is that playing optimally and losing because of pure RNG sucks. It will not be fun if your damage carry fighter gains a disease that says "if this kills something it gets an AI controlled turn and will probably kill your cats as well, and oh yeah it chains so it can kill your whole team instantly, so now you can't use them to kill shit", and we've seen that happen in the preview runs. It's not even a result of a bad choice lowrolling, an event just instantly gave the disease with no alternative and no choices.
>>732429332If you liked Darkest Dungeon and don't care if you need to figure shit out on your own when the game hides info from you, you will probably love it yeah.
>>732429118save your energy matethis guy has been spamming every mewgenics thread crying like a bitch over any kind of player discovery, or having to experiment, or being asked to think creatively. i think he got laughed out of a northernlion stream or something and has been venting here for days.
For me it's the musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6JyDJayIw
>>732429547what kind of fanfiction is this? mewgenics doesn't have consistent threads here and I don't think northernlion has played mewgenics once.>being asked to think creatively. Oh yeah the game wants you to think creatively, that's why it hides the stuff you'd need to know to make creative plans.
>>732422360The demographics and culture of both 4chan and reddit have shifted so much over time it's not even worth considering. This board always ends up becoming the thing is users claim to despise.
>>732429332>>732429545I'm looking to kill time until Mewgenics releases. I own the first Darkest Dungeon but never put much time into it and I see the second one is on sale. What are people's opinion on the second one now that the dust has settled?
>>732429739> and I don't think northernlion has played mewgenics once.yeah of course he hasn't it hasn't come out dickhead
>>732429873I came back to it recently, and I liked it a lot more than I did after my first impression. That said, the first game is still far better
>>732429739>I need every minute details and information up front to try new things
>>732429739I think mewgenics will make nl a youtuber main again and send him back to the steakmund mines, given that he loves tactic rls, but the chat becomes absolutely insufferable to the point he just couldnt stream a game he liked (StarVaders)
https://youtu.be/ppUt-6fFH-ITutorial, spoilers are coming out.
>>732429730For me it's https://youtu.be/vpEcQRdh4ag
>>732429730For me, it's this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCXgmSOOA0
>>732429982Eh, I guess I'll re-install the first game and see how it goes. Steam says I last played it in 2018.Worst that could happen is I get frustrated and drop it after one run but I'll still have killed some time.
>>732418787Why do I see this being shilled everywhere?
>wikislop is... le good, atschkualy!and the least obvious shilloid award goes to...
>>732430209Game's coming out in like 4 days, same dev as binding of isaac which is fairly popular, especially around here.
>>732430209It's a game by one of the biggest indie developers and it's coming out soon.
>>732427769Remember Silksong being released for 20 and other indie devs crying bloody murder lmao
>>732418787I am looking forward to the funny (s)cat game in three days.>>732430209If you're not an oldfag who was around during the flash/newgrounds era you wouldn't understand.
>>732430209Because v/s been waiting for it for 15 years you mongoloidThe devs actual shill campaign is fan creation contest promos on twitter
>>732429489The whole game, as most rogue likes, is about working with the hand you're dealt. It's often not an optimal hand. And even more in this game, you can play it to your advantage. It's a huge point that even negatives have trade-offs. You could make a solo berserker build with familiars and get tons of extra turns (which generate mana) to build an autonomous killing machine. You might have to sacrifice your team to do it but there's potential to work through what you think is a broken run. Sacrifice is part and parcel for this kind of gameplay experience. If you can't handle digital loss in a rogue like, this isn't the genre for you, and that's not a flaw in the game, that's just your personal taste.
>>732429730>>732430158>>732430170I'm still thinking whether I'll just play my own music and mute the in game soundtrack.I'll give it a shot but it feels like playing a tactics game while songs with lyrics play will fuck up my turn flow. Probably just my specific brand of autism.
>>732429927>yeah of course he hasn't itthen what is with your fanfiction of>i think he got laughed out of a northernlion stream or something
We’ll see how it is. Gotta say though, I feel like Baldur’s Gate 3 and Expedition 33 have majorly raised the standard for turn based combat and I don’t think this could live up to those.
looks omegashit just like isaac, waste of time games with no purpose but with le quirky grim style
>>732430002sorry you can't read my post, it's not like a mcmilen game where what is said and what is reality don't line up
>>732430059nah he hates reading, he only used 1 build in the bazaar whenever he could. he will get filtered by 1200 abilities and 900 items all needing you to read them then guess what they actually do
>>732430394I think every boss has their own soundtrack you could try turning the music on just for them
>>732430059I don't think anything will make him a youtuber main for a long time. Maybe once his daughter is out of the house and he has more time.I think he's gotten pretty good a wrangling chat if he actually wants to. If he actually wants to is another question entirely.
>>732424640Is this just Darkest Dungeon but with Edmunds ultra faggotry?
>>732430963Darkest dungeon isn't a tactical RPG you dip. This is more comparable to Into the Breach.
>>732430289This. Just put the info in the fucking game, how did he put item descriptions in isaac then jump back?!
>>732430384Not a single one of your points has anything to do with what I said. Every single thing you list would still be possible if the game dealt you a hand and told you what the hand it dealt you was. You are a blatant shill if you are pretending that items not telling you what they do is secretly good in a tactics game in 2026. It will get a mod to fix it and 95% of people will use the mod and the other 5% will use the wiki. 0% of players find shit like pic related themselves blind, because it was designed to make you go "oh wow how unique" as you read the wiki guide.
>>732430609each zone has a soundtrack, and the lyrics only turn on during the boss battle. you'll be sick of "Eatin' Rats" the 10th time you fight Radical Rat or Queen Hippo, because they share the song and it was playing the whole chapter before you got to them, just without the lyrics.
>>732430963Essentially yeah, Darkest Dungeon but half the shit is hidden from you as a joke and it's on a grid instead of a row.
>>732431634>Darkest Dungeon but half the shit is hiddenSo it's like DD2 then?
>>732429873I really don't care for the carriage portion, it functions similarly enough to 1's traversal, but longer and kind of irritating. Having generic heroes is nice for party comp consistency, but it also means you don't have a point in the early game where you're making the best of what you're given. Which I quite liked about the first one. Mid to late game the only difference is that you don't need to grind your levels back, which is nice. I still prefer 1, but 2 does have some nice ideas.
WHY THIS GAME LOOK LIKE IT'S FROM THE JACKBOX PARTY PACKWHY THIS GAME 30 DOLLARS WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE ADOBE FLASHWHY ARE PEOPLE GIVING 10/10 SCORES TO EDGY BATTLE CATS
>>732432776Because its an Edmund Mcmillen gameEnjoy your steak, remember to chew slowly
>>732432776Because the cats have autism
>>732432776Nobody actually buys Edmund's games. Just pirate it when it comes out.
>>732432776to spite you specifically
Actual 10/10, reviews show even more depth than expected, even more chapters and difficulty increases over time
spoiled locations
>>732430963No because you can only take each cat in one run, after that you "retire" them
>>732418787sovl. i'll get around to it sometime soon.
>>732434376Neat, I wonder how you get to those final stages like the throbbing domain, there was that cube insert thing and I assume there's one of those for each of the main paths Maybe you have to find some item or secret along the run to unlock it or it could be a Polaroid/Negative situation where you have to beat a bunch of runs before the option even shows up
>>732434743this article spells it outhttps://www.pcgamesn.com/mewgenics/locations
>>732431491unironically how is someone supposed to know to do all that?
>>732434853I guess locking progression behind donating cats makes sense, i just hope it isn't too specific so you won't need to grind a bunch of shit for a hope that you get to play the game more
>>732434948By looking it up.It was explicitly designed to be a community puzzle, so no kidding it's impossible to do yourself.(of course, in the most recent versions that entire unlock method has been replaced with a far simpler one and it's not an issue. Though 'most recent version' means 'with the DLC you may not own' so that's its own thing)
>>732435251>It was explicitly designed to be a community puzzleWhat info was given?
>>732434948It's supposed to be a community focused thing, different playes find different pieces of the puzzle through the Missing Poster item and everyone comes together to figure out the answer.He did it again to make players unlock The Forgotten
>>732419153He's also entering the 'bald fraud' phase of his life.
Just checked the game page on steam, avoid at all costs if you hate reddit
>>732431491Wow you sound like you deliberately go out of your way to min-max all the fun out of any game you play. I bet you think Dark Souls requires a wiki page on a 2nd monitor.
>>732435543It's a newgrounds game though.
>>732435403>He did it again to make players unlock The ForgottenThis one's actually reasonable. If you kill the boss in the first minute (happens reasonably often, esp. as Azazel) you get a very obvious audio cue. Looking around for what it means you get a fairly obvious change in the starting room, you'll want to try doing things there and there's only one unusual thing you CAN do. And then the rest is fully railroaded.
>>732435705doesn't matter, the whole thing feels like I'm reading through a reddit thread surrounded by retards, ready to kill myself, as I've said, avoid at all costs
Looks like a shitty Flash game, just like his previous games.
>>732435308You'd see a different method to die whenever you killed yourself in the Sacrifice room with the Missing Poster.
>>732435831>>732435747It's called SOUL, you wouldn't understand.
>>732435403>>732435707kinda unrelated but that arg thing with the twitter account and the little keeper statue was cool too
did you draw something for today's cat contest, /v/?
>>732435873You mean like when he had a huge meltdown on social media where he kept calling people who didn't want to support BLM nazis?
>>732435873it's actually the opposite of soul
>>732436027he never said this though
>>732428597why?a shitton of people played isaac on playstation
>>732436013Drew your mum. Edmund said it was the most disgusting piece of art he had ever witnessed and loved it.
>>732435873it's literally forced soul, and the "soul" he aspired to was ultimately that of a redditor. hard pass
>>732430209Because it's a good game, and gamers like good games
>>732434376I wonder how much playtime they actually have. The article seems confident there are just 3 Acts but this is also someone writing an article trying to be the first one to put out information rather than take their time to make sure they've got it all.
>>732437193>gamers like good gamesPretty dubious assertion.
is /v/ always this bad? I feel like these Edmund/Mewgenics threads attract people that don't even like games, like at all. Some criticism to Edmund's game design is fair and even though I don't agree with most of it I still get where they are coming from, but others write as if they've never enjoyed a game in their lives
>>732436027Why would I browse Twitter?
>>732437479People are still assmad over a failed ARG that Edmund did that happened more than a decade ago. Also a lot of people are imagining things that Edmund did and are getting mad about it for no reason.Stuff like this is par for the course for /v/.
>>732418787This games gonna be like fear and hunger isnt it... where ur force to watch community bullshit thru hundreds of troll and shitty deaths before you can actually have a playthru. just like isaac forced to have a wiki open at all times cuz you know he still didnt put decent descriptions for items.
>>732437479I'm extremely excited for the game, tho I dislike Ed's juvenile humor and how ugly the game looks
>Isaac dev>kino gameI kneel
>>732437479Yes. There are still people on this board who will assure you that Elden Ring was one of the worst games ever made and completely ruined gaming despite never playing it. It wouldn't be /v/ if people weren't completely overblowing things out of personal anger
>>732437652Because its the only social media where youll find the newest things? The one where basically everyone is and posting, even this site's main mod?
>>732437479I'm pretty sure pre-release threads are just always bad. You're mashing together people who were never going to play a game with people who aren't allowed to play a game yet. Things will be better once it's actually out.I should be playing something else rather than shitpost here but I was curious to chat with the minority of sane individuals a little bit.
>>732437897>even this site's main modWho give's a fuck who the main mod is?I assumed this whole site works like the dog ending of Silent Hill 2.
>>732437897But I don't want to be around everyone
>>732437745Anon, there is an influencer who needed the developer to explain the "up and down arrow" symbols for gender who managed to pretty easily play the game. The game's difficulty ramps seems pretty well designed and you should be able to watch like 20 minutes of gameplay to determine if you are too retarded to play it.
>>732434376how late are these 4th stages unlocked? it looks like you get act 3 before you even get the 4th stage for act 2
>only read mewgenics out from op>check steam>3 days>check thread again>mewgenics REVIEWS outi might be illiterate
>>732438647You are.
>>732425428Edmund should pay me to play it.
>>732438647Yeah but you're better than 95% of the board for being able to admit it. 99% if you actually apologize for misreading someone's statement occasionally.
For me? Is the Cleric
>>732429730>>732430158>>732430170What is this genre of music called? I don't like it.
>>732438647It happens to everyone, anon
>>732436027is he actually a BLM tard? I always thought he was more of a chud
>>732438647Because why would anyone care about reviews? Oh, right, it's /v/, and "people" here only care about reviews, steam charts and sales, not the games themselves.
>>732436342the wii u had higher indie game sales than the ps4. indies on xbox rarely get into triple digits. its just how things are.
>>732440590Ok, tim. Go back to seething at steam or pretending ue5 isn't shit or something.
>>732435747>avoid at all costsOkay, then close the thread. No one will be able to change your mind, and I'm not even sure why they would want to try in the first place.
>>732427549>>732428397What the fuck is this retardation? Jesus you people are beyond raped by Silksong
>>732440148Catcore
>>732436013You reminded me that I abandoned learning to draw to program instead 2 weeks ago. I'm enjoying myself a lot more now, but I still feel guilty.
>>732435747You can avoid it at all costs. I'll be buying it the hour release and having a blast while you spend the day in a dark room alone jerking off and complaining on 4chan
https://youtu.be/zmTtHcm7z3Y
>>732425074He's not infallible but the guy is mentally twelve years old and has been the target of a fucking gaslighting and mental manipulation campaign that makes MKUltra look like a complete fucking joke.Chris-Chan has been gangstalked by the entire fucking internet for basically seventeen years, non stop.A lesser man, a more emotionally capable man, a more intellectually able man, would have blown his own brains out years ago.The fuck did people think was gonna happen when they destroyed what little sanity he had?"WE DROVE A RETARD CRAZY AND HE DID SOMETHING INSANE!? HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN!?"I miss 2010 Christ when it was just his captain's logs about dumb shit, and not people goading thirteen year olds into goading Chris into shoving a medallion up his arse.The fucking Bluespike shit will ALWAYS be the point where Chris was never as bad as the people who fucked with him.EVERYTHING Chris does is downstream of it.Even raping his mother was downstream of some fucking lunatic convincing him to do it.For fuck's sake, you had one absolute fucking dipshit trying to get Chris to idolize RANDY FUCKING STAIRYOU HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO PUSH HIM INTO A FUCKING SPREE SHOOTINGNOTHINGNOTHINGthat Chris does is as bad as the people goading him into it. Nothing.Don't blame the golem for going haywire.Hell, this isn't even the golem going haywire, he is doing what he is convinced to do by other people.Like a child.Because mentally, that is what he is. Saying he's mentally twelve is me being generous as fuck.
who wants to crack tracy
>>732421961niggers like you deserve to be killed on sight
>>732432776Pardon me, how much do you expect a good steak to cost?
>>732424492lefties will witch hunt you if you dare "misgender" a manbut rightoids are spineless so they let a tranny get away with raping his elderly mother
>>732432776>games aren't allowed to be deep and cost 30 unless it's some unreal engine slop/v/ never fails to disappoint me every time
>>732441709The cemetery's calling!All the corpses, are alive!You shan't forget, your favorite petFor in the graveyard, it NEVER DIEEED (Never never, never died)
>>732442343We doing the $60 steak analogies again?
>>732432776>30 DOLLARSHUH??
>>732442343$5. Take it or leave it.
>>732442539>if it's not flash slop it has to be unreal engine slopdisingenuous and retarded
>>732443349you'd say the same shit if it was pixel art. shut the fuck up.
I have no idea why anyone's interested in this but I hope you fellas enjoy it
>>732424930Chris chan is a highly autistic, mentally deranged rapist. You cannot excuse his actions. A retard who kills someone is still a murderer.
>>732443746I can and I will, because it never would have happened if it wasn't for the evil bitch that talked him into doing it
>>732443942>A hitman can't be charged for murder since they never would've done it if their client didn't ask them to
>>732418787I'll wait until someone datamine all the secrets
>>732444039if the hitman is mentally challenged and did it for candy, yes.
>>732444103So Chris Chan isn't responsible for anything he does? And we should just let someone capable of doing horrible shit if subjected to toddler level manipulation tactics live among us in society? Kill yourself, retard.
>>732444209I just said he's a victim in all of this, that doesn't mean he's completely absolved of responsibility.
Edmund added Chris chan cuz he's a lolcow. it's not that deep.
I would not mind if fucking Stalin rose from the grave, ate a baby, and did a voiceover for a videogame, why would I care about some random autistic motherfucker (literal)
>>732435042they list the game at 200+ hours to complete the campaign, but it has 6 1.5-hour runs worth of content. It's a lot of grinding and very slowly giving you the chance to inch forward when they feel like it.
>>732434948They aren't, it's community bait to force you to use the wiki to unlock entire characters with entire unlock trees of shit locked behind them. We already know Mewgenics is doing some of the same shit, if you're not keeping up with the community or wiki you'll miss major chunks of the game.
>>73241878714 years dev time?
>>732435862iirc it was a tiny jigsaw piece for a different method to die. and there was no hint about killing yourself in the sacrifice room with the missing poster, so that is also just a dead end for single players hoping to access the content of the game they bought.
>>732444351I think Edmund genuinely appreciates him as another weird outsider artist(that makes Ed look like a saint by comparison) but it doesn't go further than that.Ed appreciates anyone who draws, especially if they're shit at it and they keep doing it anyway.
>>732434376the top two splitting like that is odd. surely not only the alley has a chapter 4? will the lab routes have 2 different chapter 4s instead of a shared one?
did any of the reviews let us know what the fancy bow does? because I find those "we won't tell you, solve the puzzle somehow" mechanics obnoxious imo.
>>732445856I assume there's two different chapter 4s depending on the route like the Chest or the Dark room in Isaac.I'll still hold onto a crackpot theory that the whole thing could shift upwards and give us an Act IV.
>>732446186>I assume there's two different chapter 4sMaybe? If anything that makes it weirder that act 1 only has a single shared ch4. you'd think the earlier content would get more, not less, since it's naturally what will get played the most.>I'll still hold onto a crackpot theory that the whole thing could shift upwards and give us an Act IV.Hard doubt, Mcmillen had said in interviews and in a reddit AMA just 1 month ago that this is something they're planning on doing for dlc. if it's already in the game then it took a lot of gaslighting and lying about the contents.
mewgenics is going to end with the world getting ended by the apocalypse right
>>732446852>it's a TEiN prequel
>>732446519I wouldn't mind a bit of gaslighting if it means there's even more, but yeah I hadn't combed through the information so I didn't know that.Feels like I don't even have a concept of what the endgame would be after completing all routes. Then again people keep playing Isaac after getting Dead God. I could see myself having crazy souped up cats by the end of the game and just throwing together a team of strays to find out if I had learned anything.
>>732446852I'm betting on travelling through time with one cat and doing it all over again in NG+.
>>732447065>Feels like I don't even have a concept of what the endgame would be after completing all routes.Same as isaac, every character has post marks to fill so you need to beat all routes like 4 time minimum and that's if you make fully different teams of 4 each time. Some of those will be more challenging runs, like having to bring the collarless cat with you or bring a melee cat to a boss that hard counters melee. After all unlocks? Well yeah now you just keep playing runs for the sake of it if you still enjoy it. I can't lie, the base game does look fun once you get past the frustrating learning curve stuff I'm sure it has. The replayability should be really high from the variety in random effects, like the shit water boss will be transformed into a shit ice-cube boss with different moves and everything if it's snowing on the day you fight it.
Most of the criticism is just "waaa the game doesn’t tell you that fire burns grass and gets put out by water, there’s also no tooltip on water beam that tells me it’s water element, this game doesn’t explain anything I need my tutorial and tooltips please never let me feel smart"
>>732447701nice strawman, got any more?
