>>732669895
the only thing i know about teamspeak is that it constantly post sassy gifs on twitter whenever discord does something bad, but they dont do a single thing to try to actually make a better alternative to discord

does this still cost money?

>>732670108
it does
teamspeak is not gonna be the replacement, trust me
people will need to find that somewhere else

mumblers where you at

What about Matrix? Isn't that basically the same thing as dicksword but decentralized?

>>732670165
Moving from teamspeak2 to mumble was the last time I was impressed with a piece of software. Fucking magical latency.

>>732669895
everyone is going to stay because this is the age of apathy actually

skype

element

XFIRE BROS RISE UP

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>>732670163
>it does
gonna take my ass back to screaming at my friends over steam voice calls like it's 2014 then i suppose

>>732670476
Damn it'd be great if this shit finally turned around and my friend stops being a dickhead retard about using the Steam Accounts we both have to communicate when playing PC games.

>>732670476
i genuinely was doing that already.
never really liked discord

So if everyone has to upload their face or ID discord has a way to keep everyone's data safe and there won't be a massive breach in a few months right?

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I see some people posting about this one
https://www.rootapp.com/

>>732670840
>Discord as a cancer potentially finally dying
>WAITWAITWAITWAIT NO WE HAVE KERFUFFLE PLEASE
Piss off

>>732670840
This is just discord, selling your data, not private, but at a slightly earlier stage before it becomes completely shit and verifies your age.
It WILL happen to this too.
Why are internet users so retarded?

>>732670458
I hear that rip message notifcation sound in my sleep.

>>732670354
never left

>>732670163
Wait didn't TS3 have a free tier? I remember it having one.

>>732669895
Why not using mumble for voice and matrix for messages?
They're FOSS and can be selfhosted...

>>732670169
The only feature complete client for it is element and element is a piece of shit

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Remember when you can post gif without subscription horseshit

>>732670351
msn messenger

I will not use it purely because of their quip faggotry on twitter

>proprietary trash

i can just use one of the thousands of stolen id's from the tea app leak to validate my age

>>732670354
get off vent or I'll have you bent

>>732669895
Haven't used discord in almost a decade.
>Teamspeak
I use Mumble.

>>732669895
So how do we popularize the mass use of teamspeak again? i was always hesitant regarding the discord take over in the earliest days. Didn't like the service, still don't and felt like it wasn't conducive to gaming at all.

>>732669895
Matrix or Stoat(formerly Revolt) seem more plausible

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>>732676391
this

>>732672348
An all-in-one option is much more appealing. Discord got popular for a reason.

So chances are the discord might actually die, what will replace it?

>>732676840
can on a string

>>732676840
another normoid blinking-lights-gaming trash app, what else

>>732676805
I mean not for being the "all in one option" but it basically bruteforcing itself as the "official" chat for anything.

>>732676840
people said this about elon buying twitter and fucking it up. face it, we're past the time in history when people will hop around to different platforms.

aw. but i'll miss my discord, with my shitty inside joke emotes :( i remember there being something called matrix or element. forgot which one is the open-source, decentralized one, and which one is the honey pot. i think it was called single or something.

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>>732669895
>Teamspeak wonned
lmao sure buddy, even if you self-host you still have to pay Shillspeak money, it's Mumble + IRC or bust

>>732676945
might was well make a proboard

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I don't have friends so none of this is relevant to me

>>732676840
Discord won't die, 99.9% of people using it are attention whores who will see nothing wrong with providing their ID and face to some sketchy company who pinkie swears they won't misuse it*
*unless someone pays them, or they get a data breach, or the government requests it 20 years later, or they get an information exchange deal, or their servers get seized

>>732676945
>1gb of storage no matter which tier of subscription
lmao wtf. are their servers hosted on thumb drives or something?

>>732676993
Please understand, ShillSpeak still thinks its 2003

>>732676913
>people said this about elon buying twitter and fucking it up.
No that was just butthurt liberals doing it for political issues

I spent so much time on Teamspeak when playing Counter Strike Source that one time while having a phone call I held my push-to-talk key.

>>732676840
Xfire

oh yeah and people also moved from twitter to bluesky all right
thing will stay the same. People will just scan their face

I only use it as a Skype replacement so being marked as a teen probably won't matter to me using it as a voice chat. No way in hell am I giving them my ID.

>>732670840
>unironically called rootapp
you deserve whatever happens to you if you download this shit

>>732677052
see >>732677043

>>732676945
You don't need IRC. You're supposed to chat with your friends through an instant messenger.

Is vent or teamspeak better these days? Which one has better features?

>>732669895
Yep. My friend would rather rent a server then give our id. I'll be glad to be back

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>>732676945
>(((Subscription))) service
i have refused to pay for any of these since i shut my xbone down for the last time like 8 years ago and i refuse to go back to that way of "living", either let me buy your product outright or fuck off

>>732669895
How's Teamspeak's screen share?

>>732676895
Eh, I think that came later after most people had already moved because of the convenience.
I remember having to juggle AIM/Steam and TS and nothing synchronized. Links and gifs and stuff didn't even embed back then.
Eventually we moved to Google Hangouts as everyone started using smartphones and wanted something that synced between devices. Then finally Discord came along and put it all into one package. The audio quality on Discord back then was terrible, but the convenience made it worth the switch.

>>732677239
NOOOOO GOYIM YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE

>>732673932
Fuck skype for killing sovl

>>732676970
This. Had a friend who ran a mumble server for me and about 8 other guys for almost 10 years until he decided he didn't want to run it anymore.
Some of my friends went to discord, I just kinda stopped talking to people.

>>732669895
I'll just use some russian shit like Telegram or whatever

Just use Mumble and/or Matrix.
I genuinely don't understand why people use this kind of proprietary scam software

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You guys won't do shit. You will take the Discord cock and do nothing about it like you always have.

Have we really gone back 20 years in the past with all politicians using "FOR DA KEEDZ!" to make all their retarded changes?

>>732669895
I still use TS3 for my autistic once a month arma sessions.

>>732678506
The only reason I use discord is to download discord only mods and for game playtests. Don't know why the fuck anyone would use this piece of shit when mumble and matrix exists.

>>732678493
Because what you recommended requires effort and isn't ubiquitous. I agree though. Whatever these niggers slop up isn't my concern

>>732678847
It is absolutely hilarious that discord is being used as a ghetto FTP or source control. Mod developers that use discord to distribute are going to have problems

>>732678542
Politicians always have and always will want absolute control it's just that now they have a realistic way of doing that. Trotting out "won't somebody think of the children" is always the excuse because we're hardwired to want to protect them

>>732678847
Can you stream your game to your friends on those?

>>732679027
Why would I need to when steam already has that as a built-in feature?

>>732678506
I already deleted my account and stopped using it around 2017. It just provides no value for me or my friends when we can just use mumble, steam or in-game voice chat.

>>732679027
You can on matrix and steam. But this is a feature almost nobody would ever use. The most important thing is having VoIP and that's it. Everything else can be done in a separate app if it's needed, I'm not Chinese so I'm not looking for a "1 app does everything; calls, messages, banking, gaming, video playback, ordering food, etc."

>>732676945
>200 dollars for 60 slots (plus 4 bonus slots!! yay!!!) and 1 GB of storage
what the fuck? are they retarded? who actually uses this

>>732670476
>does nothing
>wins
Gabe strikes again

>>732670354

i feel ya mon

>>732670840
rootkit
no
rootapp!

https://stoat.chat

Don't bother with anything else. (Matrix is fine)
It's opensource and it's like Discord.

And if I see something about Root again
I might strangle folks.

>>732670840
>rootkit
I laugh.

>>732669895
Why can't steam just make a proper group chat?

>>732669895
I don't want to jerk off over voice chat, that's weird. This isn't a good replacement for Discord at all

I GOT A RING IN 'ERE LAST NIGHT

>>732669895
>face scan or ID
so what's up with this? any ways to bypass it?

>>732678506
For me it's as easy for me dissociate with discord as it was with Skype. It's nothing to me. So if they literally lock me out of the service and say
>NA AH! not until you hand over your ID!
I absolutely take that as the message to go kick rocks and i will go elsewhere. I'm not one of those idiots that spent money on a premium account or used my own money for stupid server options. Nor did i use any other additional stupid service they provided in general. If anything it's the most over designed piece of shit. Maybe it's hard for zoomers to say goodbye but it's not for me.

>>732679161
>But this is a feature almost nobody would ever use
Because it's so shit

>>732679127
From my experience streaming on discord works way better than on steam though I haven't tried streaming on steam in years.
Also don't want to add all my non-steam games on steam.

>>732679161
I think being able to start a stream with a push of a button is a very nice feature to have and my friend group uses it constantly.
I think we would keep using discord even if streaming was literally the only feature it had.

>make my nsfw channels no longer age restricted
what now? I don't take part in public servers anyway those places are full of annoying faggots

>>732679448
Does it have one click group hosting and screen sharing? This is the bare minimum that any discord alternative need to have for me to consider it.

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Teamspeak is mostly used by Ukrainian and Russian military, i'm American but I you could also just join a random public server to talk with your friends on VC if discord isn't an option, but there's a few options, sharing your screen is horrible on there, and nobody wants to pay money to create a server, discord isn't going anywhere because many official developers, modders, websites, etc use it for QNA, hosting mods, updates, etc.

pic unrelated

>>732676913
Most people were happy about Elon buying Twitter because most people don't like being held hostage by lunatic troons.
>>732676840
It's not going to die. People will just keep using it rather than moving to something decentralized. It's the same problem with everything else on the internet, people traded freedom for convenience.

>>732676840
steam voice calls

>>732680518
>steam voice calls
That's shittier than shit

>>732680560
Make some noise and maybe Gayben will finally fix it. Surely a good messaging platform can't be harder than the black magic that is proton and VR on linux?

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>>732680839
>nu-Valve
>capable of doing anything
lol, even lmao

Element using matrix was usable even if the UI is slightly worse than discord or skype

everyone will forget about it in a few weeks because it's only for age restricted channels

>>732670458
>>732670442
Das it mane

>>732679926
This. If any alternative wants to be serious then game and screen sharing is the bare minimum.
But I miss MSN. And Skype.

>>732670442
It still blows my mind that they launched Steam amid WON players being unhappy that they had to move to it to play Counter-Strike, and then they didn't even fix the friends list for MONTHS, forcing people to use stuff like Xfire to join their friend's servers

>>732681191
>discord scans your text channel and finds the gamer word and then decides to age restrict the channel
Now what chud?

>>732681191
It's for everything discord deems "sensitive". Can you niggas not read?

>>732679886
>I think being able to start a stream with a push of a button is a very nice feature to have and my friend group uses it constantly.
Steam already does this and you can set it up so that you automatically stream every game instead of even having to press a button manually each time.
>I think we would keep using discord even if streaming was literally the only feature it had.
Your web browser can already do this without needing an account:
https://talk.brave.com/

It only really affect fags that use public servers, you can jsut set your private server to SFW and it say nigga all day long.

>>732669895
>go to the service that wants you to pay for basic shit and has confirmed will sell all your data
at that point you might as well just give a selfie to daddy discord

>>732682265
Well first of all, I would never want steam to automatically stream every game that I play, that would be silly
But I do understand that starting the stream is not that much more difficult on steam than on discord
The problem with steam is that you either have to make watching your streams request only, which is a hassle or you have to make them freely available to everyone on your steam friends list, even the people you don't know personally

Discord perfectly executes just the thing that we want, a private voice channel where trusted friends can pop in and out to watch streams without having to process any requests.

I looked at the brave talk site and it says it's video calls and just for four people.
That doesn't sound like what we want.

If discord retains the ability to be in a voice channel and stream games despite us not linking our IDs to our accounts we really have no reason to switch, it's perfect in that sense

people will go back to discord just like how people go back from bluesky to twitter

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>>732669895
>no screenshare
>public ip exposed
>have to pay if you want a private shitting room for your mates
go home fake gamergirl

>>732683361
>video calls and just for four people
A video call is not a stream

>>732676840
Nothing because there aren't alternatives that are at a minimum not worse than Discord.

>>732680452
People won't switch to something decentralized but they might switch to something else still. Skype died when it became too shit to use despite being extremely popular before then

>>732669895
me and my friends use ts since around 2005, discord was never really something i liked so nothung changes

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>BEGINNING SCAN
>BRIDGES ID VERIFIED
>WELCOME, SAM PORTER BRIDGES

>>732683498
you forgot to say
>pay for more room in the server,

>>732670840
>RAT app

If any alternative gets super popular, won't they just get that program to do the same thing?

>>732684947
Of course.

>>732684947
Yes, then everyone jumps ship again
Such is the cycle of enshittification

Reminder this shit is going to infer your age based on shit like when you use Discord, the games you play and some other bullshit I forget.

can't one of you fags vibe code a near identical open source copy of discord?

>>732685139
>open source copy of discord?
>open source

*hacks you*

>>732685185
i dont think you know what open source means lil man
>>732685139
people have made them, heres one https://github.com/stoatchat

>>732669895
The biggest issue with any platform trying to copy discord is anybody being able to mini-strwam their gameplay with no 30 seconds of lag between gameplay and viewer, allowing the discussion to remain in sync about whats happening.

>>732685281
People hack closed source games like CS2, Battlefield, COD, etc

What do you think open source shit like Discord without constant security updates would be like?

>>732685185
just vibe code a good antivirus while we're at it
>>732685281
>stoat
>scroll down on site, first thing I see is a picture of food
I'm glad people are doing this but WHY is it always the most redditsoi imaginable
if you name your shit axolotl.homo I am inclined not to use it

>>732685345
just go ask an ai chatbot buddy

I'm pretty sure that 80% of the people complaining about this have linked their username with their real name one way or another (myself included, not in a very obvious way but I'm sure that if I was targeted by the gov they would be able to find me).
How worse will face scans make the situation?

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THIS IS WHAT I MEAN

>>732669895
it's not a good alternative if feature parity isn't anywhere close to 1:1. just call your mate on the phone if teamspeak is your idea of an alternative. I hope element/matrix will catch up. You can even bind discord and matrix to relay conversations so you can make the swap less drastic

>>732678506
I literally only post on one server and we just moved all their regulars to another chat.

>>732676945
I swear I selfhosted last teamspeak a few months ago and it was free. Buggy tho

>>732685345
said games being closed source is why they keep getting hacked
Open source gets thousands of eyes on potential issues, Discord is coded by a dozen jeets vibe coding the app to steal and store as much of your data as possible

>>732685446
The risk of hacks.
They already had a some 70K+ very recently and proved they store shit despite saying they don't.

I can see this leading to an even bigger hack.

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Sorry I'm already cozymaxxing with my 4chan friends :)

>>732669895
until teamspeak adds a persistant IRC or text chat I cannot move everyone over. That's all I'm waiting for.

>>732685345
>software doesn't receive security updates if it's open source
Many open source programs are MORE secure than their proprietary counterparts, owing to them being community projects any skilled person can contribute to as opposed to relying on the same team of people to always keep on top of things. And that's not even mentioning how you theoretically can check exactly what happens to your data, unlike proprietary software that WILL sell it

Just use thispersondoesnotexist.com you tards.
There’s no way the jeets coding the face recognition will make it check for AI, they don’t know how to.

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>>732670613
LOL
LMAO
ROFL

>>732686092
they make you turn your head, and the other ones check for an in date license.

You're better off using Yakuza or some other videogame where you can rotate the camera.

>>732686131
why not use the one that literally made the news in the last 24 hours?

>>732685948
>The risk of hacks.
That's a valid argument but I don't think faces are too valuable in leaks. I mean, it's very serious for big corporations, the government etc. since they have access to basically everything but I don't see any value it can have to a random who will access the leaks. It might have value for someone targeting your username and trying to track you through that (not the other way around) but still I am not sure.

>>732686186
I host my own irc server with ergoirc and use mumble for vc

>>732686136
I’m sure you could easily shop some license date or something. The AI detecting this won’t be that advanced considering how shit discord is in the first place.
If Rizon/IRC wasn’t dead I’d just go back to using those at this point.

>>732678506
I stopped using Nexus Mods when they prevented you from simply downloading mods unless you created a user account, I'm certainly not going to upload a face scan or my government ID just for a chat program.

>>732686194
a video of you turning your head can be used for fraud, opening bank accounts in your name

>>732686408
not in my europoor shithole

>>732686408
How will discord activity be any useful for that?
Discord will contain your face, and it will be useful to match yourself (ID/Name) with your discord activity.
If anyone has access to your face beforehand they won't need the discord and one with your discord only has your face (and there are a lot of faces online they can use, no reason to arbitrarily pick John Doe from discord).

>>732682265
A few years ago steam video streaming was absolute dogshit and I have doubts they have unfucked it

Google talks and its superrior XMPP protocol was deprecated in favour of diarrhea that is modern IM&voice talk community. Jami could be nice alternative, but no one does good things for the community nowadays.

>>732670165
*mumbling at you over a crystal clear 32kbps stream, enjoying in-game overlay and a positional audio

>>732670169
matrix is a piece of shit software. i could speak with chinks in ventrillo 20 years ago with any mic setup (without understanding a word of theirs), but for matrix frontends it's a hard task.

I dont get why people dont use steam group chats, it's probably just because they dont know about them.

steam basically has a discord clone hidden in the friends list menu, I think the only difference is you dont have a bunch of random corporate controlled servers? but from what I can see there's no reason there couldn't be?

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>>732669895
>>Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

ok and?

>>732687553
Chats last only two weeks before deleting fucking everything. Yet Valve has those chats stored somewhere. Why they can't let it be like Discord where you can reread years old stuff is beyond me.

>>732687638
I dont even really care about that, is that the only thing wrong with them?
im looking at em now for essentially the first time and im trying to find any reason at all this couldn't just be where my friends yell slurs at each other.

>>732687553
>I dont get why people dont use steam group chats
No persistent chat history

>>732676840
Steam

>>732670165
mumble gaaaang

>>732687764
1. You also can't host or send files. (You can send images but that's it)
2. No video chat

>>732687784
that sounds like a good think you fucking troon

>>732687553
steam group chat is fucking terrible and ive always thought why doesnt valve improve it, nows the perfect chance

>>732676945
>1gb storage
I remember having a teamspeak with some friends more than ten years ago and we had loads of files and videos shared... it can't have been 1gb surely

>>732669895
>using trooncord to begin with

>>732687865
>>732687865
>NOOOOOOOOO i cant share my porn with my other porn addicted troon friends

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>>732669895
>come home white man
never left. I still use teamspeak and mumble only

>>732676840
Normalfags like 99% will just accept it and keep using discord.

>>732687957
Yeah that's a big part of Discord -- but there's also weirdo modders who host their best non porn stuff on Discord.

watching all these threads on /v/ in the past 2 days about discord troons crying is actually very entertaining

really shows how /v/ is infested with faggots, troons and normalfaggots

>>732685446
>i already have hpv so might as well get hiv
What is this fallacy called?

>>732688213
"In for a penny, in for a pound" syndrome

>>732669895
u can technically run it on linux but mumble is the choice of champignons

>>732669895
>full access
why should I care if i'm not a groomer in a public server? I only use disc to talk with my mates

>>732676585
POINTER

if a video of your face is so dangerous (if it leaks) whats stopping hackers to go to youtube and literally get 1000000000 videos of peoples faces?

the discord troons dont know how to answer this question btw

>>732681651

>months

Anon it didn't work properly for the first 5 years until the Orange Box.

M I R C
I
R
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retvrn

>>732687880
>ive always thought why doesnt valve improve it
yeah they're perfectly positioned to capture every single steam user with a frictionless onboarding and all they'd need to do is hire a handful of developers to make and maintain it.
there's no barrier to making a discord clone other than upfront cost and figuring out how to make hosting it profitable, of which steam could probably do with a "buy game your friend is playing 5% off" button.

they must think the juice isn't worth the squeeze or something.

>>732688581
Being a social program probably introduces headaches that Steam currently doesn't have (yet)

>>732688581
I DO NOT WANT VALVE TO RECREATE THE TORMENT NEXUS THANK YOU

>>732688379
notice how no one defending this shit posts a picture of their own face and ID?

>>732688379
You're so retarded I'm worried I might be talking to a minor, so in order to continue I want you to prove that you're not a minor by showing photo ID

>>732688581
its never worth being known as a social media platform.

Its also awful to want a company to be an "everything app".

>>732688581
which is even weirder because discord keeps adding more and more steam features and the ability to buy games through discord and other dumb shit
valve could also dethrone windows by making a good linux alternative. i guess they don't have enough staff to do that kind of stuff and don't want to make the company massive

>OH NO, A VIDEO OF MY FACE! EVERYTHING IS FUCKED
To still come here with all the browns and bots is truly a litmus test for us all.

>>732688957
>dethrone windows by making a good linux alternative
they already have steamOS and it's shit. linux bazzite is very casual friendly but you basically need to add any .exe to steam as a "non steam game" to run it properly with proton. kinda retarded imo

>>732689038
>enough to create bank accounts in a few countries
identity theft never happens right mr. jew?

>>732669895
>still no TS6 server files
it's dead

>>732689229
https://hub.docker.com/r/teamspeaksystems/teamspeak6-server

>>732689101
steamOS isn't really targeted at pc users though is it? they could definitely do a lot more with it. mostly they just need to strongarm nvidia into writing some good drivers

>>732688727
>>732688776
notice how you didnt answer my question

>>732689146
answer this>>732688379

It's time to use element/matrix

>>732688581
think off all the pedo and honeypot issues discord has, valve wants absolutely none of that

I wish we would just go back to party chat, or even in-game chat

>>732689483
Notice how you didn't show photo ID

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>>732670108

>>732689483
practice what you preach.

>>732689524
already happens

>>732689572
sorry, but because you might say no-no words we cannot allow you to communicate with team mates or other players. this is for your own safety :).

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>>732689596
>>732689652
this is me... now what?

>>732689593
>need to have your own server
>still need a silly license
How do they justify this? If you run your own server, you should be able to do whatever which at that point.

>>732689652
You'll have to do more than just repeatedly insist.

>>732689704
sorry, I can't verify this without your ID.

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Element is too mixed with shady groups to be popular
Teamspeak is paid to just build a server
>Skype

It's time to join Mumble

>>732689801
A non-issue, then.

>>732689705
yeah this seems insane for self-hosting. I guess it's an attempt to stop someone cloud hosting and charging for access, essentially letting them bypass the "gamer license" entirely and potentially making money off TS intellectual property. At this point we're better off going back to IRC

>>732689815
>too mixed with shady groups to be popular
this never stopped anyone from installing discord

>$4.99 /month for your own private server
yeah nah ts3 still dogshit. people will stay on trooncord only because it's free

>>732689858
>non-issue, but I JUST HAVE TO ENFORCE THIS!

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>discord announces extremely based measures to keep track of pedophiles, groomers, and scammers
>"white" people immediately roach out of the platform en masse
im noticing

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>>732689705
proprietary software moment

>>732670169
>What about Matrix?
DOA. When you have troons on your website and you advertise every one of your social media accounts EXCEPT Twitter, that should be a massive red flag. Matrix ain’t it.

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>>732685962
We're so going back

>>732669895
>posting lies on internet

>>732690072
XMPP/IRC supremacy will never be overtaken

>>732690208
>>732690150
>>732685962
no one wants to hang out with autistic 30+yos

I literally don't care about any of this, but I just want it to noT BE THE BLOATED PIECE OF SHIT THAT IS CHROMIUM, IS IT REALLY HARD TO MAKE IT LIKE A DECENT HUMAN BEING

>>732690254
>30+
More like 40+

>>732690254
that is the majority of the small groups using discord atm, zoomers are the ones in the huge community servers

>>732690254
Autistic tranny 30+ year olds*
I tried it and it's just a more autistic normalnigger shithole on any server with any merit of engagement.

>>732690195
are you ok anon? didnt take your meds today?