What makes a vidya "grindy"?
>>732755265Anything where you get stronger by making a number go up instead of just being able to beat the game with the default strength
>>732755265repeating the same task for power gain
>>732755515Pretty much this. If your ability to beat the game is dependent entirely on numbers rather than skill, it will inherently be grindy. After that it's only about degrees of grind.
>>732755515I think this definition is too broad. Like in a lot of games you level up withput having to grind for it. Say, idk, souls or diablo games. You dont necessarily "grind" there to beat bosses, levels and gear just come naturally.
Grinding a boss that has a 20% chance to drop the BiS weapon but every time the weapon drops it needs to roll a 1/19 to actually be the weapon you want.
>>732755265When enjoyment is derived from seeing numbers go up, instead of from the very act of playing the game.
>>732757963what about games like disgaea that are all about the grind
>>732755265Haru you aren't counting the event, T, club and gibs carrats
>>732758083They're shit games.
>>732758294One must always assume worst outcome so they are constantly surprised how much better things are than they thought
>>732758576Fucks up the planning though
>>732755265Something Something Every Live ServiceIn my experience Live Service games are the grindiest.>Daily Energy with Cap(You gotta wait for the bar to go up before you can play fucker, you gotta wait before you challenge the boss and his drops! What’s that? You didn’t get the drop you want in the last fight? Well too bad you gotta wait, now go cry about it somewhere else.)>Daily Logins, Bonus if you have a Month Calendar Rewards(Play Every day, miss once and you’re never getting the final reward on the list, you should have quit your job and got married to the game anon)>Time Locked BS(Stop right there! That’s enough fun! You have to wait another 24 hours before you can get another drop!)>Powercreep Drops(We released new content that better than current content so go get it or fall behind! We put the items you needed to craft the new weapon on the new bosses with each a guaranteed 0.1% chance drop! Good luck!)>Dev Reasons(The boss is super boring and we knew that players would hate the ever living fuck out of him! This boss is so lame so we have to lower the drop chances so people would fight him multiple times so that people would always remember him)Everything falls in grinding because I am grinding my ballsacks on a cheese grater
>>732755265UMA
>>732755265urara if she 240p
>>732755265project Nortubel is grindy
>>732758652Live service games, by nature of central servers, require player retention and to some degree constant spending from said players, daily grinding partially serves to keep players engaged with itWhich is why so many of them are cancer and need to die!
>>732758787KILL YOURSELF
>>732755265When the gameplay loop stops being novel or interesting but it still requires a lot of repetition to make progress
>>732757749The thing is if you can beat the game without the bis weapon then it was optional. You grinded cause you wanted to.If the only way to progress was that 1/19 chance drop cause the next boss had a dps check then its a mandatory bullshit grind.
>>732757749the pool gets smaller every time you get one cuz you cant get dupes thoughbeit
If it's tedious when I play it, it's grindy.
>>732757749REBIRTH AND DESTRUCTIONHERE AT MY COMMANDREBIRTH AND DESTRUCTIONAGAIN AND AGAIN
>>732755265>zuccbook filenameYikes
>>732758862Yeah surely the devs wouldn't do that
>>732755265Any games with crafting that has levels.You need to be a level 20 alchemist to craft the special potion for main quest.Not only do you need to craft a thousand potions to get to that levelYou also need a thousand bottles, a thousand green herbs, and thousand litter of cow piss for this potion. Meaning... You also need to craft a thousand bottles for those potions. You also need to gather/grow a thousand green herbs, kill a You also need to kill a thousand mountain cows for their magic piss! But oh no! There are only 10 blue cows at a given time so you gotta wait for them to spand back after you kill them.
What is the dirt CM even looking like? Falcon, Taiki and Oguri? Dirt sparks are kinda hard to find, good ones at least.
>>732759490That and Condor (both versions) plus SMaru.
>>732759543I keep forgetting about the Hag and the Bird. How well has everyone's daughter been doing in test rooms?
This is the stealth uma thread, please stop talking about the irrelevant question and talk about umas instead
>>732759490This is basically the whole list and even some of these are practically impossible since you need too many mile sparks on top of the dirt sparks.
>>732755265Grind > Choresa grind is when it takes a lot of playtime to unlock or earn something, but you are allowed to put as much time into it whenever you wanta chore is when you earn stuff from daily, weekly, or other timegated means. You are only allowed to earn thing when the game says you can.The horse girl game, and all gachas for that matter, are chores. They are not grinds because you are at the mercy of the developers on how much stuff you can earn and how often you can earn it. The devs have mathed out exactly how much currency you will be getting throughout a week, month, or year and no amount of playtime can change that.
>>732759490Take your pick, with 10 dirt spark* you can go from E to A. Im imagining taiki, smaru xoguri is the sovlless comp
>>732759639I've been parent farming and didn't join any test rooms. NY Haru should be decent but is better as end closer (or so witgod says anyway).
>>732759720Why xoguri instead of base fatty? Wouldn't a more consistant ult that you don't need to spend 480 SP on be a lot better when skills matter so much for short distances?
what uma is you building?
>>732759490The burger fears the samurai
>>732759803I was seriously considering making a dirt mile seiun for the fun of it, but then I realized I hate spark farming.
>>732759737What makes a character "good" anyway? Is it Ult>growth rates>POT skills?
>>732759720Xoguri needs to be run front which sucks ass to build. Basically nobody is going to put up with that.
89625795Dirt CM lobby
>>732759875neigha I'm still building sprinters
>>732759781Ive no idea, ive never really built either of them for any CM. I just know that "xoguri strong" or whatever
>>732759823post grass, I want to use her again
>>732759803I'm gonna job it in this time, just make Haru, Taiki and Base Oguri because I don't want to wrangle with inspirations and there aren't enough dirters yet to make me interestedNo Hokku, no Wonder, no Transcend means I have no interest
>>732759893It's a bit early but Dirt lobbies were filling up fast a couple days ago
When is dirt CM?
Ban gachashit faggots
>>732757450>gear just comes naturally>diablo gamesYeah maybe the first game. Second onward turns into proto-MMO grind slop. Really disenchanted me from those games no matter what flavor they took.
>>732759926She needed every acceleration skill to proc to do anything C dirt hurts! You should try fitting Ryan into your dirt parent setup if you want to build lates too.
>>732759875idk how to fit the top 3 all the space on Gimp gets filled up but here's the results.>>732759959Ye there is a big lack of dirt umas
>>732759834>Ult>growth rates>POT skillsThose are all relevant but the importance doesn't have a fixed order. An ult with strong acceleration is the best possible starting point, but that by itself doesn't necessarily make a good runner (we need only look at Ryan to see this).The environment also matters. Maya for example has NSM as a pot skill, but right now that's irrelevant because everyone gets NSM for free from Unity. And don't just look at pot skills, some chars also have good hints in their careers or secret events.
>well, didn't get turf S, but at least we got Head-On, THH, Speed Star, and Groundwork>just have to buy skills->...where's Curvature?Thank you, Kitasan, very cool of you.
>>732760267AAAIIIEEE and I forgot to censor the names too
>>732760308nyo...
>>732760267>Doxing
>>732760308nyo-t looking good...
>>732759781witgod said base Oguri was strong or did I hallucinate?
>>732760474Base is obviously better, she has superior growth rates for miles and the ult doesn't require wasting skill points on three useless heals.
>>732759823Grass... you're from Kentucky.
>All my carrat plans are based on umas and only umas because I don't know which cards I should get
>>732760474He also said Taiki was weak, so I'm not sure how much faith to put in him for this CM.
>>732760526Guts AV
>>732760556The final corner, which is the only corner, is in the middle of the track. Taiki is best suited for Miles overall.
>>732760605Wait I'm thinking of the Sprint CM. Nvm
>>>/vg/
>>732760526The only good / must cards coming up are speed tachy (if you like paces) + light hello in early july and maruzensky in mid june. NTR has a card that drops in early march who is quite good, but most importantly has SR guts AV on her banner which you want at at least 1LB.
>>732759720>>732759863Front XOguri doesn't work you will lose to a Taiki or Falco, you need to gamble on a late Hydrate
>>732760691Don't NTR and Tachy+Hello cards have free pulls?
>>732760691What about intelligence Ramonu?
>>732760691>and maruzensky in mid juneIf you like doing fronts* The next must have card after these is speed pasa in march next year.
>>732760691When is speed tachy I spent all my carats…
>>732760734I've heard tachy + light hello has 100 free ones, no clue about NTR.>>732760743No clue, I'm just repeating what I remember from when JP anon said it a while back.
umaumamusume/v/ma
>>732760743I will pull for her, I don't have Finemo or Nature
>>732760526>maruzen/fine banner is in augustyeah all is good.
>>732760790
>>732760790In July, you are already bricked
>>732760730The point of front is to launch unique off of uphill recovery, it's only 30m delay same as Spurt/all straight recoveries.
>>732760853>Maruzen/Fine banner comes WITH MachanIts not good...not good at all...
>>732760923wdym?
>>732760923not looking good for zephyr bros!
>>732760894You won't get any meaningful acceleration compared to a Falco or S.Maru who activated angling
>>732760860That’s 4 months away surely I’ll have 30k by then…gibs…? Gib…? Gibe carat or I repot u
>>732761005>he thinks 30k is enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvCyONMP44
>>732761005You need 60k carats if you're a risk taker and 90k if you want to play it safe
>>732760967>You won't get any meaningful accelerationAngling isn't a superpower, anon. It's 2.4s of 0.2 accel. XOguri is 5s of 0.3 accel even if she has to wait like 1,5s to activate in this case.
>>732761038
>Finally a Turf A Urara after like 20 runs, good stats too>Neicha betrays me. No OYL.>No win condition>My best Turf B Urara wins sometimes. This one doesn't wins shit unless hyper-luckyIt's over... I'm running my B one
>>732761113Except Falco and S.Maru will get a ton of mid-game and already be several lenght in front of you but sure use your front XOguri
>>732761136Why would neicha do this?
>>732761107I'll need 150k with how shit my luck have been so far.
>>732761136I'm so sorry, anon.
DAH DAH DAAAAAHBY
Imagine not pulling for FM next month and wait 6 months to pull her when she's starting to get powercreep with another speed card that is good enough at 1LB and that you can ticketI hope no one will be dumb enough to do that
>>732755265a game's grindyness is measured by how mad you would be if i deleted the save
/v/ma belongs in /v/!
>earnestly telling to a blatant veiled horsefag generalRetards.>>>/vg/>>>/vmg/
>>732761209Doesn't always happen. Sometimes smaru will already be overtaken by the time her ult would happen, same with Falco. Xoguri will ult even from 4th and could recover, she has innate winter runner too, doesn't she?
>>732755265"grindy" in modern zoomerspeak is when a game expects you to actually play the game, and not just read dialogue/watch cutscenes. generally when people say they "hate grindy games" they actually mean they "hate video games"
Imagine not pulling for this dog
>>732761330imagine not already having MLB FineMo
>>732761330Is WIT FM + WIT Nature a good base of WIT cards for MANT? I am at 1LB FM and MLB NN, and I'm thinking of rolling for FM if she keeps being used. Didn't roll for Fuku so I need my other cards to be competitive to borrow it.
>>732761518I don't get this "don't start your car" meme
>>732761518They're good cards but both require really high LB to get race bonus. And low LB FM is pretty damn awful anyway, most MLB SSR's beat it on stats.
>>732761560She's Irish
bros which one should I spark?
>>732761560mutts shoot up school, europoors explode your car
>>732761471I'm rolling for this heel instead>F Dirt for some reasonJust might use her for the dirt CM
>>732761518They are the two best wit in the game by a very large margin
>>732761648Taiki for dirt CMDigitan for dirt CMTaishin for long CMDober for late/end parentSeiun for front parent
>>732761648Look at this
>>732761648If you are talking about meta: Taiki, Seiun or Dober
>>732760526This, except I also don't much care for cardsI've spent the whole game so far with dogshit cards. I'm used to it now. I downloaded for cute horsegirls, I will pull for cute horsegirls
>>732761648Digigoat
>>732761648Narita Brian or Fine Motion. Totally unbiased suggestion btw.
>>732761471I've sworn to never pull without a spark ever again, so I shan't be pulling. Simple as
>>732761560funny past
>woke up too late to use all my borrowsFUCK!!!Kingu, please lock in..... I need you....
>>732759490After doing countless CM10 rooms with S and S+ ranks, I'd say Falco, Taiki and Digitan are the big 3. Though I think the strongest comp would be a 2 front 1 pace team, much like Scorpio
Holding and cuddling and kissing Jordan and calling her my big dummy wife!
>>732759490Dirt + Mile. Here if you don't want to deal with RNG those are your options
>>732762109>planning on running Urara, Digitan, and MaruzenYup, yup, looking good for me!
>>732762050Her career was allot sweeter than I thought it'd be and Golshi's part in it isn't as bad as Anons claim it to be.
>>732761560The Irish a fans of cowardly tactics
When does JP get a new set of wedding alts?
OH THANKS CURREN NICE OF YOU YOU TO FUCKING SHOW UP
>>732762050every gyaruma would be a terrible gf and wife
>>732762903>Free PTO and EnergyThank Curren NOW
>>732762903Doesn't she give 30 energy? You should be thankful
>>>/mlp/
>>732762960Idk, I think once they're expecting their motherly instincts would just go into overdrive.
Guys I finally have a gold crystal and I don't know who to spend it onDo I>LB3 King>MLB Flash>MLB Cafe >MLB Helios
>>732762994>>732763010nigger I want the skill(run was a failure anyway. Neither Curren nor Nature finished their chains, didn't get max speed)
>>732763073No Nisho Flower SR? I'd probably spend it on King if not.
>>732755265Gacha?
>>732763129Nope, none
>>732763115Perfect prep doesn't seem to be worth the point investment, but if you didn't get meticulous measures I can understand.
>>732762407Golshi wasn't overbearing and was just enough to get a few giggles out of her antics, so she served her roll as Jordan's rival well enough
Am I going to be able to finish this? I only get 1k a pop
>>732763240what other sprint skills should I be looking for? I have a limited support card roster
>>732763273Your energy refills?
>>732762960I have to disagree with that, Gold City is actually quite mature based on what I've seen of her career so far, so I see no issues with her being eitherJordan is stupid, but she KNOWS it and thus one can work with it provided there is some patience involvedPalmer...well, based on what I've seen she is chill BUT she seems to have a concerning amount of events where she just wants to run away from problems, which is not a good sign!Helios...So 2.5/4 ain't too bad
>>732763351Energy refills?
>>732763273Use yo jellies, ningen
>>732763439You have a resource that gives you blue energy
>>732763073Wait until after the free rolls on the NTR banner and decide from there. If you can MLB Ayabe use it on her.
MUN
>>732763273You can just spam RP refills. They literally gave you that when you clear the daily missions.
/herse/bros... we're doing it!
>>732763497Ei Ei!While her inclusion in Brian's career was questionable, she was still cute and I liked how her fans were really concerned about her health in there, can't wait to get her in free rolls since she is a 2* uma!
>>732755265When you dont enjoy playing it. That's it. When I "grinded" revenants in nioh I was doing it to practice my skills, but I was having fun doing it, so i didn't really consider it grinding
>>732763548
>>732763445>>732763472>>732763515OhThat's what I've been picking up the whole time? This is a weird event
>>732763494>If you can MLB AyabeLolLmao
>>732763645They were always there, anon, press + on your RP bar and fill it with jellies and there, Carnival done
>>732763548Four more slots.....
>>732763548NOT EVEN AT FULL POWER YET
>let's make a support card where every choice either has a big chance of ending the support event or straight up ends the support event>all you get out of it is +7 on stats and the most meme skill to ever meme that has a 1/9 chance of triggering in any given race Very fucking funny Cygames
>>732763824>has a 1/9 chance of triggering in any given CM race (down to 1/18 otherwise)*
>>732763824You get it for the upfront stats, not events, its basically designed for MANT meta runs as upfront stats allow you to easier to "race every turn" thing
>>73276382421 to all stats is pretty big, 77 skills points is nice too
>>732763926Upfront stats are garbage unless she's MLB
>>732763926What if you can win the early races without those upfront stats just fine? What if this is another case of (old) JP being bad at the game and overrating something because it's a crutch?
>4k jims Should I GAMBA on the dog?
>>732763548gambare
How do you even survive the derby as sprint maru?
>>732764228no
>>732764228No
>>732763305Anything that helps you accelerate, but for late surgers you wouldn't mind mid race skills that help you get all close and personal with pace chasers during the final corner. Sprint/late surger corners and PoC are very high value.
>>732764164Of course you can win the races, but getting that stat boost makes it way easier and will let you work even with dogshit RNG.
>>732764228>30 pulls at bestNo
>>732764228>bakushin's pitslutlol no
>>732760743According to the JP anon wit ramonu is the best and most important wit card for the foreseeable future, the entire GM meta is wit ramonu + style wit card so she is a MUST MLB
>>732764228That's about a 60% success rate, you feeling lucky?
>>732764228by this 7 it will be made manifest that you will get the dog
>>732764252Train wit.
>>732764424>60% success rateThe fuck are you getting that number from?At best he has like a 20% probability of luckshitting her
>>732764228>not even 30 pullsthis game is 200 or nothing.
>>732755265When you need to clear a mission over and over to get what you want
>>732764424>30 pulls>60% success rateEither this toreina has G wit, or he knows something we don't
WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID THE SAME THING HAPPEN TWICE IN A ROW?!?!no Curren and no Nice Nature event chains. Does the game just not want Kingu to be in this CM?
>>732764409Is Nishino wit good? 3 wit 1 speed bonus seems big
>>732764601>Determined Descent as a goldSeems like its gonna be a good statstick but niche
>>732764586King is just not very good
>>732755265Repetitive tasks to get experience or equipment.
:(
>Missed an entire thread for the first time since I installed the game last night>Missed fun stuff like the 3600m Sprinter raceBros, I hate being a goy wagie that needs to go to sleep early, I might have been too addicted to /v/ma but missing an entire thread and especially one with fun stuff like that hurts so much
>>732765027YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!KING HALO IS A FIRST RATE UMAMUSUME!!!
>>732765047Why is she so mean? Every screenshot I've seen of her career it's just her being rude.
>>732765047>the coolest, most fashionable uma>paired up with the cringe, dweeb trainerIt's not her fault that Torena is embarrassing
>>732755265If I need to do something more than once I consider it a grind.
>>732765132But sleep anon, it's important to get your beauty sleep. This puts your mood in great
>>732765027>>732765138King is a challenging umamusume to train, especially for sprints because her career requires more medium races than sprint ones, only the strong torenahs need to apply
Aquarius Lobby. Bring any36859733
>>732765313Third-rate trainee with a first-rate trainer
>>732765313I have trained King for every CM so far. I'm a third-rate, but I refuse to give up on her
>>732764228Bro if I were you I would start saving up like a madman.
Aw man didn't know she had that
>>7327653204/9
>>732765398First rate trainer training a talented uma is a waste of their skills, no? Why wouldn't they take a trainee who needs the most help?
