Are you still mad at Square for butchering your childhood memories?
>>732846371The Remakes is my all time favorite game.
>>732846371No they didn't go anywhere
>>732846371I didn't bother with it
>>732846371The remakes are so much better. They replaced the old game entirely
>>732846371It's a 2 cakes situation for me. I liked advent children too and people chimped out about that one as well. Hell I even enjoyed Dirge. And CC but then what's not to like about CC
Played OG when I was 17, 45 now, those memories will remain, it was awesome. Remake hoewever, took me 8 months. Good god is it a terrible, terrible game. but I finally finished it yesterday. Pic related (it was just THAT BAD, kept going back going - oh yea... nah, not doing this). I'm baffled at the succes and generally positive reception, it was one of the worst games I have ever played. No fun, just tremendous bloat and tedium. Those last couple of hours of the main story though: What. The. Actual. Fuck. If I was still 13 I would've loved it I guess? Expedition 33 just destroys any Square entry in the last 20 years. Makes this even more painful. Embarrassing really...
I still own the original?
>>732846371No?The original still there and waiting if I want to play it.
Only played part 1 of the remake, but it didn't feel like ff7 at all to me. Esp the cutscenes were sooo cringe, and every NPC having the same default face. Controversial opinion, the original didn't feel "cheesy Japanese" while the remake feels like ff15 with a ff7 skin on it + modern Japanese cringe
>>732846371nah, it gave me cosplay whores, so i dont care what they do
im upset that it's taking 10 years to complete but the game itself is good.
>>732846371shit like this is unironically that one tyler the creator tweet about cyberbullyingnigga just close your eyes
Pre-purchased the collectors edition I was so hypeAfter I played the demo I never even touched it. Its still in the packaging. I fucking despise what they did. The easiest layup in the world and they fumble it
>>732847282I can enjoy CC and AC despite knowing how terrible they are. Remake I just despise all the way through
>>732847282based and same
I was excited that it recreated all the iconic parts from the original like stopping to look for someones lost cat after the bombing mission instead of continuing on to the fun part of the game
>>732846371never was. the original and remake are both awesome.
Remake and Rebirth are less offensive to the original FFVII compared to how Legends Z-A butchered Pokémon XY.
>>732847282This
>>732846371they havent remade 4 or 8, so no
played the first demake and dropped nuFF7Reddit since
>>732846371No because I didn't want them to remake the game. The fact that they did something different with it is precisely whar allows me to enjoy it. If it waa a 1 for 1 remake I would have been livid, and I was in the weeks leading up to release because that's what I expected. I was thrilled to be wrong.
>>732852423>Make an unfinished game as a pseudo-sequel to another unfinished gameAt least they were consistent for once
>>732846856wow that's sad
They failed to make it an action game, they failed to make it a role playing game. In-between bastard. They set out to change the game but didn't change it all the way, let's shove the fans aside but we're still afraid of fan backlash. I have no respect for those cowards. Just make an action game.
remake's soundtrack makes up for the unplayability of rebirth (looking at you mini games)damn chicken lure box string ... reminded me why blood eagles were a thing.
>>732846371I'm not really the type of person to get mad so no.yes
Yuffie.
>>732846371I am thankful for improving upon them.
>>732846371didn't play the remake, so don't really care.
>>732853054god fucking damnit
>>732847282
>>732846371I'm not "mad", I just wish they'd stop making Final Fantasy VII games and let it rest. I can't imagine the poor retards whose favorite game is Final Fantasy VII, and they have to watch as Square Enix massacres everything about the game. Worse, I can't imagine being the poor retards whose favorite game was Final Fantasy VII, and so they've mindbroken themselves into needing to believe that the VII Remake is also their favorite game of all time just because it has Tifa in it.
>>732846371Yes. Especially because their did dirty to the original script, the pacing, and also the soundtrack. The way the story unfolds with that beautiful music in the OG, and the sense of emptiness and dread throughout the world is completely absent in the remakes. In the new versions, it's just a bunch of people going on an adventure, there is no feeling of "something's wrong ..." I also have to say that voice acting and "superb" cut.scenes just kills the imagination we all had with the OG.The remakes are truly FF's "The rebuilds of Evangelion" equivalent, the comparison has been spot on these recent years.
>>732846371It's funny that if they just had removed the time jannies and the Sephiroth appearances the Remake would have still been criticized, but it would have been much better received. Or if they had truly committed to changes how much better it would have been received. In the end, nothing in Remake or Rebirth requires the time jannies, the excessive Sephiroth appearances, or the alternate lifestream memories/timelines/universes because other than having those things pop up and obnoxiously get in your face nothing has actually changed in a way that warrants the inclusion.So, no, I am not mad. It's, hilariously to even say this, still the best FF entries they've released since X, and I can deal with rolling my eyes at the cringe cowardice resulting from Nomura's obsession with mystery niggas and multiverses since, fundamentally, it is still FFVII.
>>732846371my childhood memories of FF7 were those of a shitty moviegame for retards so no, they're just confirming I was right
>>732846371luv the originalluv the remakessimple as
>>732846371The remakes are a sequel and they're awesome.
>>732846856>I wish the reactor service elevator looked like Wall Market! Not playing!Faggot
>>732855031>In the end, nothing in Remake or Rebirth requires the time jannies, the excessive Sephiroth appearances, or the alternate lifestream memories/timelines/universes because other than having those things pop up and obnoxiously get in your face nothing has actually changed in a way that warrants the inclusion.Yeah, that really is the most damning thing about the Remake. We had all the bullshit that no one liked in Remake, but I was still optimistic that it would all tie together somehow and Rebirth would prove that it's a Sequel and then things would start going off the rails and by Part 3 the game would be barely recognizable madness compared to the original. But nope, all the changes are meaningless. It's not even actually different. It might not even be a sequel. It's all just a bunch of who cares. Change for the sake of change, but nothing is even actually changed, so you just have to ask yourself "why?"
>>732855031It's not a true remake, it's a sequel. Yes the time jannies as you put it are necessary, yes Sephiroth appearing early is part of the story, you still don't get it.
>>732855537It DID prove it's a sequel, Sephiroth literally tells Cloud how there's multiple diverging and vanishing universes that he's been navigating to get what he wants. It's clearly Sephiroth from Advent Children. Holy fuck this is proof that people like you have nothing left to argue. It would be better if you just said "I like the original story and don't want a sequel" or "I just wanted a pure remake that didn't change anything". Instead you're either too stupid or ignorant or dishonest.
>>732855662It's not really a sequel though. Not in the way it should have been. As it stands, it truly doesn't matter whether or not it's a sequel or a remake, that's the point anon was making. Everything that was changed is changed for no reason, no payoff, no anything, just annoyance at it not being like the original. There's no point at all to any of it. Whether or not it's a sequel is so inconsequential at this point that it would have been better to do no changes at all than the "changes" that they did do.
>>732855514Wall market doesn't look like that in demake
>>732855917see >>732855918
>>732855918>It's not a sequel... Not how I'd do it anyway>Even if it is... For no reason!Shut the fuck up!!!
>>732852423Pokemon XY were always complete dogshit
>>732855917>>732856025>It would be better if you just said "I like the original story and don't want a sequel" or "I just wanted a pure remake that didn't change anything". Instead you're either too stupid or ignorant or dishonest.Neither of these things are true though. I wanted CRAZY changes, but the changes we got are so annoying and inconsequential and have no payoff whatsoever that they don't matter anyway, and if the "changes" aren't actually changes and they don't matter anyway, then it would have been better to not change anything at all. As bad as the completely meaningless and inconsequential changes to the story is, my biggest gripe is still that it's 3 games instead of 1.
I hate the nu-realism, I want Cloud with a giant hair spike and cool anime eyes instead of looking like an uncanny doll. Doesn't help that Squenix has been obsessed with changing Cloud from an asshole to a silent shy autist, he doesn't look or act like he did in the original at all.
>>732846371Square has been milking FF7 for decades, this isn’t any different
>>732846371Never was. Childhood memories of the original can't be replaced and thus no big emotional investment in the outcome of a remake. These are enjoyable in their own right, but will inevitably be a different experience.
>>732856187>Doesn't help that Squenix has been obsessed with changing Cloud from an asshole to a silent shy autist, he doesn't look or act like he did in the original at all.That's actually not "Square Enix", that's Tetsuya Nomura. Ever since Nomura got his hands on Cloud, he's been mopey loser Cloud instead of the cool guy with one-liners Cloud that he was in the original. Also, Nomura works on so many projects that he can't keep anything straight anymore, and he blurs everything together in his head. He has a notepad that he uses, but that can only do so much, so he relies on helpers to watch YouTube theory videos and the helpers relay back to Nomura the things that he has written, as told to his helpers by YouTube theorycraft videos.
Not really, they never hide that the original exists and you can buy everywhere.Fuck you, Sega.
There's a lot of lazy praise ITT but you know what? I'll let it slide. I can fight for objectivity another day.
>>732857241Good afternoon, jimboExcited for Part 3 reveal today?
>>732857241Ok I admit it I'm no better than barry and only comb these threads for negativity to stomp out. "Objectivity" is just a cover. I'm very disingenuous but it's so transparent anyone can tell.
>>732857241>>732857505Where did this "objectivity" buzzword originate from? This seems to be newly added to the conversation.
During my formative years, I played:>FF7 OG on release>Watched Advent Children subbed when it was released on the internetAnd that's it. I never played Kingdom Hearts (until very recently) or any other Nomura game. I also did not play any mainline FF games after FF9.Generally, I find FF7 Remake great, but lacking. I was disappointed that it was confined to Midgar. If that was the case they could have expanded Midgar to some reasonable degree aside for light bulb mini games and hallwaysFF7 Rebirth, on the other hand, was pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. The world is big and beautiful. The well-known set pieces are not only lovingly recreated, but expanded upon. And the new story stuff is very well done and enough to keep a fan like me interested for the final installment.I am not an autistic who got butthurt because Remake pulled some story stuff out of its ass. It was very obvious from like hour 1-2, so you have the choice to go along with the ride or be miserable. Personally, I love that it has new shit for me. And it's generally done well enough.
>>732846371I was... for a while. Took me years to accept Squaresoft was gone and the new games were not flukes but rather the direction management wanted for the company. I eventually realized i was being silly. Companies don´t make games, people make games. I could just follow the people rather than follow the brand and what do you know? Those kept working on the industry and making the stuff i liked. So yeah, moved on and don´t really expect anything from SE anymore. Also let´s not pretend Remake ruined anything, VII was already on the ropes thanks to stuff like Crisis Core, Last Order, DoC, Advent Children. Those are the ones i hated at the time... all de canonized now. At least in my head.
>>732857657I know you're not used to new material but try to keep up
>>732858449I'm just asking. I've seen this pop up a lot lately and I'm just curious where it originated from.
No because I was an adult when FF7 released
>>732858518Someone who patrols these threads is very concerned about objectivity. He hates subjective opinions, positive or negative, and insists on objective takes only. But strangely he seems to take action against one kind of opinion a lot more often than the other.
>It's a "Remake" get it? We're taking the original and redoing the story so it gets remade into something else haha!>Literally the next game>A-actually no, it's complety faithful, we weren't going to change it haha...f-fooled you again...It's one thing to change the story, but it's another to not even have the balls to follow through with your own fucking changes
>>732846856I wanna grab jessie’s green butt
>>732858814the funny thing is I think 4chan was all about making changes a decade back. Jessie was one they wanted more of.
>>732858814Why are you flat-out lying?Yeah, they recreated all the famous bits from the original, but a good 5-10 hours of story was completely new in Rebirth.
>>732859273What would be a valid criticism of VIIR?
>>732859273Fuck off. It shouldn't resmble the original game at all, nor the place it left off, be the EXACT goddamn place they were in the original. If you're go change it and have it a "rebirth" than fucking go all in on changing it. I don't want the fucking Zalom fight and disguise missons done worse, I don't want the game to be padded out with the same mini-games that were an issue for the original game, I don't want to dick tease saving Aerith in vain. If you're going to change shit, then fucking change it. Are we going to pretend next game isn't going to have the submarine? Or Space ship? Or Tifa and Scarlet slap fight? Of course, Rebirth they have to balls to sell a game that doesn't have its most marketable moments, but clearly don't trust it enough to be faithful either. So we're left with a half hearted attempt at both that satisfies neither.
>>732846371Rebirth is the only good FF game of the last 15 years only morons hate it
>>732860283Very lazy praise.Anybody want to deal with this guy? No?
>>732860283What a high bar that is to clear.
>>732860459Yes the high bar of releasing a good game. Few achieve it.
>>732860368>>732859652What a life
What Is The BA7RY Test?Firstly, who is Barry? Barry is a XV fan who combs 4chan for posts criticizing XV to reply to. In his mind, every criticism of XV is wrong, no matter how big, small, reasonable or unreasonable. It's all wrong, and he will set you straight on that matter.Unfortunately, FFVIIR has its own Barry, named BA7RY, who acts in the same way. He's hard to miss. Do you suspect he's ITT? Then apply the BA7RY test. It's simple!Just ask him: "What would be a valid criticism of VIIR?"Barry would never criticize XV, even slightly. And BA7RY will never criticize VIIR either. This simple test lets you know if you're talking to a reasonable person who is capable of discussion, or a wall of fanboy autism who will never give an inch and is only here to tell you that you're wrong wrong wrong!If your anon replies reasonably, he passes the BA7RY test. If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY! After all, Barry's favourite tactic was to call everyone Nathan. Because only one person ever called out Barry, right?Try it yourself!
>>732860547Works every time>>732859652
>>732860547What about Barnold
>>732860546Weird how its always you isnt it?
>>732860503>the high bar of releasing a good game.Let's not get ahead of ourselves
>>732860547This has been a godsend
>>732846371No because i first played FF7 when i was 14 and while i loved it, i know its is own contained game and anything else using the entry lore is just bonus that i can pretend it doesn't exist if i don't like it.
>>732860547Is he the guy who has posted the Rufus webm thousands of times and talks about Sega more than anything else
>>732846371>>732846371Think about how much better it would've been if they had kept it turn based. Look at how well BG3 did
>>732861119No turn based game has ever sold well
>>732861421Baldurs gate 3 sold over 20m copies. FF is a 200m+ franchise. The live action combat in the remake is such sloppy dogshit
>>732861421>E33>BG3>Pokemon>T-those don’t count
Why do these thread never fail to bring out the most crazy people on this board?As long as the thread are shitting on the game, it's all good. But I swear as soon as people say good things about Remake or Rebirth, deranged retards come out of the woodwork for some reason.Additionally, Rebirth is an awesome game.
>>732862845see >>732860547
>>732863109Okay, that tracks.
I haven't even played the originals and I was still ripping hairs at the sheer amount of shameless PADDING there was in Remake, IT ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY GOOD PADDING. I can't even imagine what someone who played the OGs as a kid must've felt doing shit like the whole Leslie key thing or the fucking tour of Shinra.
>>732863218I refuse to criticize SE for putting shit content in these games. The blame is entirely on the player who should know not to play the side content. You will ALWAYS see me posting multiple times in these threads to make clear it's the players fault and not SEs.
>>732863218Yeah, the padding in Remake sucks.And I loved the game when it first came out. But Rebirth eats it lunch top to bottom - it handles 'expanding' the game in a way that Remake should have really done.
>>732863404None of those examples are side content, they're literal padding ingrained in the main path.
>>732863109>>732863404Here he is.
>>732855514Shill schizoing out and having an argument in his head.
>>732863539Here he is, the guy who ruins all my arguments by pointing out how shit they are, leaving me no recourse but to call him out 10 million times fruitlessly
>>732863404We must tell everyone that all the things that anyone has ever disliked about Remake or Rebirth are things that the player should ignore. It's their problem for playing the game.
>>732863404They really do think this tactic works, and when you tell them it doesnt they get very upset because its all theyve got
>you cant call it bad if its optionalPlaying videogames at all is optional. You cant call a videogame bad if you decided to play it.
>>732846371Not really because the new one doesn't replace the old one by doing everything differently. In fact I feel nothing about it and dropped it in game 1.Persona 3 demake is an actual replacement in comparison.
>>732846371how do I get the OG PC FF7 working? I downloaded it from the archive and somehow it installed without even asking for the other 2 discs. Won't launch.
>>732863909>You cant call a videogame bad if you decided to play it.Exactly. The only people who ever call a video game bad are people that haven't played it.
>>732847282based trve fan
>>732863909Thats not what he said
>>732846371I hate how they fucked characters with censorship and uglified Tifa.
We will see this scene in p3, how jiggly do you think it will be?
Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that time jannies are kinda neat.
>>732865469Her censored outfit makes every scene worse
>>732865563Only because they did actually show back up in Rebirth. Now that that's happened, they are definitely a good addition.
>>732846371As someone who plays every single Legend of Heroes game on release, I dont need any more 80 hour long rpgs that are apart of a long running saga
