WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY
Filing for chapter 11
>>732876025FF13 Remaster pls
>wanting to give SE money
YoshiP trooned out the last FF14 expansion so all of the money dried up after the playerbase stopped paying sub fees
>>732876025Deceased
ded, they didn't meet the mark on Final Fantasy Rebirth and now they're out of funds
>>732876025The leaker was right about the GOW remakes but got this one wrong.
>>732876192>>732876426They will outlive you>>732876887Rebirth made it's budget back on the gacha alone.
>>732877623rebirth cost over $200M, the shitty gacha isnt doing shit
>>7328760252 more yearstrust the plan
>>732876025Hard at work making FF9 remake as good as it can possibly be
>>732876025They sold out to Doritos Pope, he gets all the trailers now
>>732877808>>732876887Watch as the Remake and Rebirth releases on Switch 2 really boost their sales.
>>732876025Now I'm worried about them.
>>732877972They better fix Garnet, remove her stupidity and make her an actually better waifu to Zidane or I am not buying.
>>732877972Cancelled anon
>>732878739Keep telling yourself that, the increase of IX content in recent years, especially with the Another Eden collab say otherwise.
patch 7.5 is imminent or whatever the fuck that one anon keeps posting
>>732878295>30k physical>disappeared from charts the second DQ7 came out>shilling it with mtg promos like it's a fucking ygo wc gameit's dead on arrival
>>732877972Reminder that the original IX was an overrated mess that needs lots of fixing and rewriting for the Remake, especially Zidane and Garnet’s romance: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX
>>732878739Hopefully.
>>732879127>30k physicalworldwide?
>>732879274>Fanfiction dot netI do not take the opinions of gays to heart.
>>732879127Rebirth isn’t even out on the Switch 2 yet.Also, once Part 3 comes out I am sure sales will soar since some people wanted to wait until all three parts were out before buying.
>>732879348Cry more, nostalgia glazer.
>>732876025Waiting for the next main Nintendo Direct to drop FF9 remake as a Switch 2 exclusive alongside the Switch 2 version of XIV.
>>732877808>rebirth cost over $200Mpost your source or kill yourself retard.
>>732879479Not even gay, but keep being a bigot in your basement.
>>732878609>>732879274can you please stop shitting up threads without putting a tripcode on
>>732878952Think for a second you dope fuck. Why do you think they made all that stuff? To release alongside the original 9 remake release window. If anything, releasing those without a word of the remake is the final nail in the coffin. They couldn't cancel production of the physical products
>>732879274Zidane and other characters make a few remarks about Garnet's beauty throughout the game, they will remove all of that for sure. The will change the ending to be more like RE4R:>You don't need me Garnet, you're a strong womanAnd Zidane will just leave
>>732879497>some peoplemaybe 1% of the potential customer base>>732879446>switch 2 sales are less than 1/10th the release total in Japan, one of the most receptive markets for 7R's gamesmaybe 300k global at best
>>732879883that doesn't explain the shitton of digital products over the last several years
>>732879965Considering they upped the sexiness and romance for Tifa and Aerith to Cloud in the VII remakes, I don’t believe that for a second for IXR: https://youtu.be/LukCQmIs8qE?si=zR2B6BAH19t6qU5Z
>>732879647>Calling others a Nostalgia glazer when you want remakes???????
>>732879965>The will change the ending to be more like RE4RWhat happened in Resident Evil 4 Remake? Also, that’s Capcom, not Square Enix.
>>732880259Easy way to make a quick buck. Especially if they're finished. Square needs all the revenue they can get atm. Explain why there hasn't even been a mention that it's in production? We all know how much Square loves announcing shit years in advance.
>>732880557Nostalgia glazer is when you shill the original and act like it never had any problems and just want a HD remaster rather than a real Remake/Reimagining to fix any issues from the original.
>>732880728>We all know how much Square loves announcing shit years in advance.Or maybe they learned their lesson after KH3 (especially since that was done without Nomura’s consent) and are waiting until VIIR is complete to announce IXR.
>>732880692At the end of the original RE4R Ashley is all over Leon and acting very submissive towards him, he just rejects her because he's cool like thatIn the remake she acts all high and mighty towards him, he tells her she's so strong and doesn't need him
>>732881857Isn't Leon twice Ashley's age?
>>732880927I don't get the hate for Remake/Rebirth. But maybe its just me since I wanted more from the FF7 setting and story.
>>732879965Funny, because in the original game it forcefully had Garnet deluding herself into thinking she was a “strong independent woman” who could just make her psychotic mother stop her violence by just talking to her (despite not even doing that when she had the chance before running away from home with Zidane at the beginning of the game) and selfishly drugged and abandoned her husbando like a self-centred bitch, thus ruining the love story, and neither Zidane nor the game ever calls her out on this or even treat it as problematic. She is ridiculously victimized- which makes her a Sympathetic Sue. I want the Remake to get rid of that bullshit.
>>732876025Crashing and burning.
>>732882758It’s just a bunch of basement dwelling nostalgia freaks acting like boomers and romanticizing the fuck out of the original through their rose-coloured glasses that bitch about the Remakes. Though many claim that the PS1 era was Square's "golden age", as it had games many considered some of the greatest games of all time, the reality is far from that. Final Fantasy VII, VIII, and IX were all rushed out the window, with varying with degrees of how rushed they were.
>>732883351Final Fantasy VII is just probably the least rushed. In fact, FFVII is probably the most complete. However, they didn't have time to fix the balancing of battles and bosses. you could literally beat FFVII with Cloud, Tifa, and Barret (minus the part where Cloud isn't in the party in disc 2) with no changes. That's how bad the balancing was. And even then VII was still pretty much an unfinished game with it’s story, it was held back by the technical limitations of the PSX, Yuffie and Vincent weren’t originally going to just be “optional” they were going to have bigger parts, Wutai was going to have a bigger part, etc. The VII Remake is actually restoring and rightfully bringing back all of this cut content. As for VIII, I’ve heard somewhere that if developers wanted to put in everything that they had planned for the game, it would have had to take up over EIGHT disks. It's buggy, has lots of slowdown, tons of load times, and it feels like a mess (though not as bad as IX). In fact, FFVIII didn't have time to prepare a raw script for localization and Squaresoft Electronic Arts (yes, they had a deal with EA, the irony is not lost with me) had to translate Final Fantasy VIII with a Game Shark. So hopefully VIII will get a remake that will fix all this.Final Fantasy IX was really rushed, not made by the same team as VII and VIII, and had a smaller budget. In this case, a lot of its planned lore, like half of Freya's backstory, all of Amarant's backstory, and the final boss, Necron, had his entire lore cut out, and then there is the mediocre romance of Zidane and Garnet…
>>732882903Name me one Final Fantasy love interest that doesn't do something stupid in her game at least once.
>>732876025Begging Blackrock to finance FF7 Reslop after they burned a pile of cash on rebirth.
>>732876025In the grave, where they belong.
>>732881857Garnet acted pretty high and mighty towards Zidane in the original IX, so I hope the Remake does away with that or at least tones it down a lot. (The Another Eden collab actually dialled her bitchy-ness up to eleven, though at the very least didn’t have her drugging and abandoning Zidane like the original did)
>>732883471>lore of necronYou mean Hades, Necron's lore is self explanatory
>>732876025They're finishing their plate
>>732883351Those rushed games are better than anything they have done in the past 10 years, that's not even debatable.
>>732884114>Garnet acted high and mighty to Zidanethis literally never happens you deranged schizo
>>732876192That's Ubisoft.
>>732884354Well, Rebirth was Ubislop
>>732883727Garnet took it to a WHOLE new level, whatever stupid things other FF love interests did was tame and inconsequential in comparison. (Especially since Garnet’s stupidity causes mass murder and destruction by handing over her eidolons- which are the equivalent of WMD- to the bad guys on a silver platter)
>>73287619214 is better
>>732884128It’s a dumb Cloud of Darkness reference from FFIII.
>>732884204X, XII, XVI and the VII Remakes disagree: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2023/06/final-fantasy-xvi-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>732876025Sorry, SE belongs to Nintendo nowFFVII Part 3 will be a timed Switch 2 exclusive
We'll probably be getting Unlimited Saga Remastered late this year or early 2027.
>>732884983God I hope not. Fuck this game. I bought it when Blockbuster had a "we're dead" sale because it was cheap, it didn't come with a manual, and I had no idea you had to press Select to camp until I read someone else talking about in a couple years ago.
>>732885137It was already confirmed when Frontier 2 remaster was announced
>>732884983Can't wait to play this for the first time
>>732884983God I hope so, this game is in dire need of some QoL features
>>732883069>RPGs are for autistic children!>dies>company's target audience becomes the autistic manchildren
>>732884248Did you not remember the game that well or even played it? Here are some snapshots from the IX review proving you wrong.
Summer games fest is where the FF7 news will begin. I guarantee it. And they'll probably do a January release for its 30th anniversary. So, we still got a while to go.
>>732876025busy making ff16 pachinko
>>732885292>this is NOT like my sterotypical japanes animes wahhhhhhShut the fuck up, retarded bitch.
>No Kingdom Hearts>No Dragon Quest>No Final Fantasy of any kind>Not even anything about the game we know are comingWhat the fuck is going on at SE?
>>732884983peak delulu. let that shit rot in hell
>>732884983>Only saga game I enjoy is ScarletI can't believe the no budget half eaten onigiri game is the best one.
>>732885287It needs some more serious work than just QoL, but Kawazu admitted as much when talking about it and pretty much said it would be hard to decide how much they should change it since it's only a "remaster."
Square is going to go bankrupt, I just hope we get Nier 3 before they do.
>>732885759was that not automata?
>>732885785No, Automata is the second, after Replicant/Gestalt.
>>732885292>>732885431Keep deflecting and shilling, here is the next screenshot.
>>732886034
haven't seen zelink here in a minute
>Who cares if it's not a 1 to 1 remake, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the pacing is horrendous, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the game is bloated with filler and shitty minigames, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if there's a bunch of retcons, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the writing is complete shit, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that they keep butchering all of the memorable/iconic scenes, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that it's actually a sequel and that they called it a remake knowing everyone wanted and waited for a remake and not a sequel, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that it's split into 3 parts and that you have to pay full price (and buy a new console) for every part, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that they made Red XIII sound like a complete faggot, we get to see more of him!>Who cares that they completely ruined Cid and that him and Vincent aren't playable, we get to see more of them!>Who cares that they completely massacred Aerith's death (arguably the most iconic death in video game history), we get to see more of her now!>Who cares that Sephiroth lacks everything that made him loved and iconic, we get to see him nonstop now!>Who cares if the boss fights are discount mmo raids, we get to see more of the characters!This is what faggots that defend the demake sound like
>>732886279>>732885431
>>732886540Cry more, Nostalgia freak: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2020/04/final-fantasy-vii-remake-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=httphttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332417/1/Everything-the-Final-Fantasy-VII-Remakes-improve-over-the-originalhttps://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2025/03/lets-play-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-1.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>732886540>>Who cares that they made Red XIII sound like a complete faggot, we get to see more of him!that's actually in line with the original japanese, where he talks like a child after cosmo canyon.
>>732885486>>732877902
>>732886540>Who cares that they made Red XIII sound like a complete faggot, we get to see more of him!That’s literally how he sounded in the original once you get to Cosmo Canyon, it was lost in translation due to the horrible English translation along with many other things, keep being ignorant.
>>732886721There is literally not a single thing the remake did better than the original. It's just Kingdom Hearts cosmic nonsense.
>>732886941>that's how he sounded in the originalis this a jitsu wa reference?
Daily reminder that Square canceled MULTIPLE Yoko Taro projects so they could pump out more mobile games.
>>732886801>>732886941>that's actually in line with the original japanese, where he talks like a child after cosmo canyonShut the up you actual shit eating trannieshttps://youtu.be/QgbD7eHn7y0?t=12
>>732884983I won't lie, I enjoyed this game despite not even understanding how to play. But part of it was just because it felt novel to me that I could equip a weapon while still having a full movelist of unarmed attacks and pull off combos with stupidly long names.
Nomura is gooning
>>732887021No, that’s your dumb headcanon on something that hasn’t even been fully explained yet and the story isn’t even finished yet, here is a truth bomb for you.
>>732876025Hopefully considering their decisions and hopefully reflecting on how retarded they've been.I'm not talking about games, though they've been retarded with those too, I'm talking about them constantly trying to jump onto the worst trends all the time. Remember the NFT game Symbiogenesis? Me neither.
>>732886279>>732886034>>732885292Who's this sociopathic sperg? This is the kind of guy you imagine fapping at night, completely naked with a loaded gun to his temple to "feel something"Garnet drugs the party because the situation has changed. It shows her tragedy. She's still a sheltered teenager who runs away from home because she knows something is "seriously off" at home, and partly she just wants to see the world. But this "seriously off" situation has been noticed politically by all the other leaders of the continent, which is why Lindblum's King and Garnet's relative goes to the extremely politically dangerous choice of kidnapping her to save her life.Garnet doesn't know any of this. So once her journey is concluded she hears that far from being "off", her mother is waging war. So she feels guilty because she's the only other remaining royal, who left her country and mother. Partly, she must think "maybe my mother is also waging war because i'm gone and she's not thinking straight. Maybe i pushed her off the edge of her strange condition"She HAS to think this way, because the alternative, that her mother is insane, killing her own people and others, and doesn't give a shit about her own daughter is unbearable. Garnet is forced to grow up all in one go, in the most traumatic way possible, like when her own eidolons destroy everything she cares about, including her own home. Even as the recovers her legacy with Alexander, it's still just thwarted and good for nothing. Which is why you don't get a casual "date". The story is about genocide, war and a global conflict and pretty much millennia-old alien invasion conspiracy coming to conclusion. A date would RUIN the game. Zidane is there for Garnet in her worst moments and as teenagers they like each other from the first moment. They also both grow up through the crazy events they go through, so the romance is perfectly handled for what it is.
>>732887414>Any modicum of pattern recognition that doesn't align with my headcanon is headcanonCan you please leave?
>>732887326That is just one line and the voice actor they hired probably couldn’t do a young sounding voice when AC was made.
Uh oh he's here to shit up the FF thread. You already know who it is.
>>732887534She quite literally goes back and hands her entire selection of eidolons to her mother after all the hard work Zidane and Tantalus did to get her ass out of the kingdom. In the end Garnet is the one responsible for giving her mother magic nuclear weaponry that annihilated Cleyra, seriously hurt Lindblum and then Alexandria itself killing god knows how many people, and ruining the love story.But hey, we're talking about a game where a war criminal (Beatrix) is never truly confronted about the shit that she did and is left to stay as an unbeatable god-mode Sue.
>>732887678>That is justYou on copium after getting utterly BTFO'd you dumb faggot
>>732887534 if my own mother did this: I would try to talk to her FIRST, and when that clearly won’t work, I would get outside help and not just go back to alone again like an idiot. I would also think about what the source of her insanity was, particularly if a suspicious and conspicuous man came to see my mom and then she started acting like a psychopath, common sense would dictate that it is that same man that is responsible for all of this and he should be the one you should be focusing on and going after. Yet Garnet didn’t come to this incredibly obvious conclusion until too little, too late AFTER she came back home and predictably got captured like an idiot.If she was so convinced her mother wasn’t so out of her mind or crazy that Garnet could have just talked her out of it, why even bother to run away from home in the first place rather than just talk to her mother when she had the CHANCE? (Something that a girl with an otherwise perfect relationship with their mother would do FIRST, before running away) Had all of the stuff we'd just witnessed not happened (The Queen firing upon the Prima Vista and not caring about collateral damage with the civilians or even her own daughter’s safety, the murderous Black Waltzes which blatantly tell Garnet that her mother sent them after her, the devastated North Gate with the Alexandrian flags placed there clearly showing that they were launching an attack against Burmecia), and Garnet had come to Lindblum without ever fearing her mother or seeing evidence of her mother's atrocities, then the "My mother isn't crazy and I can just reason with her!" reaction would make sense.Why not just STAY HOME to begin with if she was so convinced that her mother could be snapped out of it by just talking to her? Why bother to run away at all and just end up making all of Zidane’s (and us, the players) efforts a big waste of time?
>>732887678>couldn't doOr they didn't think to rewrite his entire character to literally exclusively sound like a child instead of simply speaking more casually because it's a retarded change to make in the first place
>>732887785>and hands them overshe literally gets them ripped from her body by a ritual she has no knowledge of
>>732882758ff7 remake was AMAZING for a normie like meff7 rebirth is just mediocre as an art form
>>732883351>It’s just a bunch of basement dwelling nostalgia freaks acting like boomersThat's a pretty good description of people who are still clinging to Final Fantasy
>>732888010I enjoyed both sucks that you can't enjoy things for what it is.
>>732878739the dq3 remake took like 8 years after it was announced before it came out and it was a shitty low effort hd2d
>>732887201Reminder that Taro is not owned by SE and anybody can hire that retard to make games. They won't because they know melodramata was a fluke.
>>732881106They obviously haven't cause they did the same with KH4 lmao. Fucking retard
>>732881106>waiting for VIIR to end for a project that shouldn't have any of the same people involved with it
>>732887678>>732887326do you both forget AC is 2 years after the original you stupid retards
>>732888917>2 years>As if that fucking matters for a species that's still young 700 years laterIt amazes me that faggots like yourself will literally eat shit in an attempt to win an argument
>>732887886>>732887854Cope.
>>732888752Why can’t IXR be made by the same people that made VIIR?
>>732887620No, keep whining because I am destroying your arguments.
>>732887950Not the point. Cid certainly knew that Garnet’s mother was after the Eidolons. (So this is partially his fault) And even if Garnet is right, that "mom isn't evil, there's just something controlling her to act this way," she's making a HORRIBLE mistake to think the same scenario couldn't happen to her, too. To go back and have her controlled to use the known strong Eidolons she had the ability to summon. You don't give yourself to the enemy, regardless of how weak or strong you think your assets are.Being wrong, or young, won't absolve Garnet's choice to go back after successfully leaving. She wasn't even uninformed, even if you can claim she wasn't omniscient. There was zero, absolutely zero reason to return beyond, "let me appeal to the nutjob by begging them to just stop."
>>732890379What could Cid have done? She gave him the sleeping treatment same as the rest of the party, except Steiner, whoa this point is a retarded stooge following any order given to him.
>>732877623Dude Ever Crisis is so dead that the game's co-op is devoid of players. It's so dead that Advent Children and now currently Dirge of Cerberus were downgraded into events instead of proper story chapters because they can't afford it anymore. I doubt they'll even finish the rest of the main FF7 story chapters or even adapt Before Crisis before the game goes EOS.
>>732886557>>732884248
>>732884248>>732890612
>>732890612idk why you would even bother criticizing the english script of ix when it's filled to the brim with rewrites
>>732890521Cid could have told her about the Eidolons as soon as she got to Lindblum on Disk 1 so as to prevent her from doing something stupid like just returning back home in the first place.
>>732890769Are the particular lines in that photo accurately translated or rewrites? Regardless, nothing in the original japanese dialogue is going to justify Garnet’s idiocy or her being a poor love interest.
>>732890919I do not believe that would have stopped the naive Garnet from trying to return to Alexandria to hash it out with her mother. She really is quite oblivious and sheltered in the first half of the game.
>>732876025>WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEYdead, like their games
>>732891119No, she was just flanderized and pushed the cliched “naive princess” stereotype to insane levels. Disk 1 Alexandria is a deceptive introduction to Garnet specifically, as although an excellent introduction in isolation (The thief goes to kidnap the princess who outsmarts and outmaneuvers him every step of the way, culminating in an excellent scene of her swinging on the banner to that Prima Vista and reverse uno-ing the kidnapping followed by the quick witted improvising on the stage), this Garnet we meet at the start is not necessarily the character we continue the story with from Evil Forest onwards. And an introduction for characters is extremely important, as Zidane, Vivi, and Steiner's characters at the start do feel like they are the same characters moving forward, while Garnet took a bit of a slide… downwards.At the start of the game, she brilliantly works out an escape plan and improvises a way out on a dime. If that was the Garnet we got for the rest of the game instead of the girl that doesn't know what knives are, thinks that evil megalomaniacs can be reasoned with by returning without anyone to back her up and drugging and abandoning the man who loved and protected her, I would have loved her. Instead she devolves into a really clichéd and unlikable naive princess stereotype and bad love interest and just never recovers.
>>732891119Then why did she not do this when she had the chance BEFORE running away from home at the beginning of the game? If she was so convinced that her mom could just be talked out of it, why bother to run away from home at the beginning of the game in the first place when she could have just did exactly this? It completely defeats the purpose of running away to get to Lindblum in the first place and renders the whole beginning of the game with the kidnapping and trek to Lindblum, Zidane’s (and the players) efforts, COMPLETELY POINTLESS.
>>732881857You’re being delusional. I just finished replaying re4 remake yesterday. She still acts coy and flirty with Leon. The “overtime” comment was just changed to saying she’ll pull some strings to get him on her personal detail. Leon rejects her just like in the og but does the line how she’s tough enough now and doesn’t need him. It’s the same shit and innuendo, just worded differently.
Making the next Octopath more like Zero after its superior critical and financial acclaim.
>>732890701>>732884248Here is a particular clear moment where Garnet acts all high and mighty.
>>732888010Had the same experience. Remake felt perfect, literally the only thing I didn't enjoy was that fucking pull-up minigame. Rebirth felt like it was tooled for DMC/Skyrim/Ubislop bros.
>>732891506Yes, sometimes not everything has an epic payoff. But as princess she was likely sheltered from the goings on outside of Alexandria. Seeing what is going on and the extreme measures her mother is going to, with the black mages and waltzes, likely makes her think she has to go back and get her to stop.
>>732891743>>732884248
>>732891742you mean the mobile slop repackaged as an actual game? yeah right.
>>732891963You didn’t answer the question, why bother to run away from home in the first place? It begs the question of why Garnet wanted to escape from Alexandria and get to Lindblum in the first place if not because she thought she couldn't trust her mother anymore and thought she couldn't stop her mother's aggressive actions alone. She also outright states that the reason she DITCHED Zidane was because he "wouldn't stop treating her like a child" (read: keeping her safe and away from anyone who would attempt to harm or manipulate her). She comes off as an arrogant haughty bitch.
>>732890539Still covered part 3's budget. Sony paid for Rebirths budget. Schizos like you will be dead while SE still makes games 50 years from now.
>>732892245She is arrogant and haughty, part of the sheltered princess thing. She thought Cid was going to do more immediate action, and he was not going to go up against Alexandria. So she decides that she must go back. Of course it's a stupid decision on her part.
>>732885759we already got that
>>732892071This game is an actual game with a totally cute FEMALE childhood friend.Its good.
>>732892384>She thought Cid was going to do more immediate action, and he was not going to go up against Alexandria.That’s not what happened, he was sending aid to Burmecia (which we strangely never see) and wasn’t 100% sure that Alexandria was behind the attack (granted that is also stupid due to the dumb contrived writing of the wounded Burmecian soldier not clearly stating that Alexandria was the attacker and there being no Alexandria foot soldiers among the mages attacking Burmecia, especially when there was no problem having them with the mages attacking Cleyra) Not Cid’s fault that Garnet pulled a one-eighty on her motives.
>>732892384How does being a sheltered princess make you arrogant and haughty? Shouldn’t that make you humble and timid?
>>732876025Huffing copium over thinking the FF7 remakes are good. We all know that the sequel under performed.
>>732892384>She is arrogant and haughty The narrative doesn’t seem to think so and act like this is problematic, especially with how much it pretentiously tries to make you “feel sorry” for her.
>>732893307>We all know that the sequel under performed.So me a credible source of that, and not one that was before Rebirth was ported to PC and the upcoming Switch 2 release.
>>732893104Being raised as the sole future ruler of a country? I think that would lead to some level of arrogance given who was in charge. That's why she thinks only she can do it. >>732892965Yes, some "aid" that never materializes, and nor is he going to confront Brahne directly. She realizes this and goes off on her own. Again, not a smart decision on her part. But that's her reasoning, and even telling her that Brahne wants her summons would not deter her, imo. >>732893326Not much of a pity party until her eidolons are taken, which yeah, she put herself in that situation, but it still sucks for her, and especially traumatic that it was her mom ordering that to happen to her. She paid a terrible prince for her mistake.
>>732889827Where does that say he got an entirely new voice?Why doesn't sound like a retard in Advent Children if that was always the vision then?Holy fuck you demake defenders actually have down syndrome
>>732893923It wasn’t a new voice, Red XIII’s voice actor is just good at giving an adult voice and kid voice.But keep coping, Nazi.
>>732889919why should they get involved when they haven't made a single good game since FFX?
>>732891743>character internally mulling over a personal conflict they have with their actions is "acting high and mighty"You're genuinely retarded holy shit
>>732876025They just released DQ7 Remake
>>732893685>Being raised as the sole future ruler of a country? I think that would lead to some level of arrogance given who was in charge. That's why she thinks only she can do it. I’ve seen tons of other princess characters that weren’t like that, like Marle from Chrono Trigger or Primm from Secret of Mana.>Yes, some "aid" that never materializes, and nor is he going to confront Brahne directly. Cid never implied that, he definitely implied that he was going to confront Brahne directly, it’s just that the situation in Burmecia put a halt on things. (Though you’d think that Cid would have warned the King of Burmecia in advance about Alexandria’s increasing militarization and aggression so that they could be prepared for an unprovoked attack, another instance of bad and contrived writing) >She realizes this and goes off on her own. Again, not a smart decision on her part. But that's her reasoning, and even telling her that Brahne wants her summons would not deter her, imo. Well you are wrong, also she could have stayed home to begin with and keep trying to talk to her mother if she was so convinced of that, and once her mother straight up attacked Burmecia she could have tried to convince Beatrix, Steiner and the others in the castle that she was right about her mother going crazy and violent.
>>732895226>>732893685>Not much of a pity party until her eidolons are taken, which yeah, she put herself in that situation, but it still sucks for her, and especially traumatic that it was her mom ordering that to happen to her. She paid a terrible prince for her mistake.It’s not really that “sympathetic”. Zidane and everyone told her it was a bad idea, she didn't listen to them and drugged and abandoned them to selfishly get her way. The problem is that Garnet is a moron who ignorantly screws over everyone and herself because she's too selfish and arrogant to appreciate Zidane and the people around her and just ignores all their concerns. Poisoning the man who loves you, and all your friends is a really shitty thing to do, all because she couldn't take 'no' for an answer and wanted to selfishly get her way to do something she could have done well before the game started when she ran away from home. That’s just stupid. She betrayed Zidane.
>>732876025Don't worry, my buddy Ricardo Astolfo Rollins ensures me that Squeenix has something big planned. Don't give up on the company just yet, OP.
>>732894435That’s not a “personal conflict” it’s Garnet blaming everything on Zidane just because he had the “audacity” to disagree with her dumb idea of “just talking to mom”, and once again shows what a bad waifu she is, she cares more about her psycho mom than she does about Zidane who has done nothing but help her. I can name tons of romances from other games and anime/manga that were quickly developed and were way more interesting than Zidane and Garnet’s:FFVII, VIII, X and XIIIStrike the BloodRosario+VampireNGE: Shinji Ikari Raising ProjectNaruto and HinataValkyrie Drive MermaidYamada-Kun and the Seven WitchesShinmai Maou no TestamentXenobladeMonster Girl DoctorMaken-KiRe:ZeroSailor Moon
>>732895619It has quite literally nothing to do with that
>>732895762Says you. Care to explain why you think so?
>>732895619Garnet is referring to the incident that occurred in the evil forest and reconciling with how she didn't used to think about other people's needs in an objective manner. She's partially blaming Zidane for this as she got the idea for it by knowing him, as Zidane coddling and treating her as if she is entirely helpless when she has her own motives and personal attachments, particularly to her family, that predate meeting him, led her to using his own tactics and knowledge against him as a means to prove herself, an unintentional effect of his worldliness rubbing off on her.Calling her a "bad waifu" for having a very clear cut personal development related to this person that she hasn't come to terms with her feelings for, that she finds conflicting, as she's doing something illegal, ie helping Marcus steal the supersoft, but for the sake of someone who saved her life thanks to him, is rather contradictory. It feels more like you never want to actually have to think about how other people's heads work
>>732895016wow a remake of a game that already has one except this one is worse.
>>732896687Oh eff off, she literally says “if you hadn’t treated me like a child” very clearly referring to back in Lindblum when he rightfully disagreed with her dumb way of thinking and then she started overreacting and got full of herself. But keep acting like this is “2deep4u” and Garnet isn’t being an obnoxious twat.
>>732886540Okay I’m just going to posting pics from “Final Fantasy? Whatever”’s review of the original VII to show that the original isn’t as perfect as you remember it to be:
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>>732885137Lol, it's happening. We just don't know if it'll be a remaster or a remake since on Twitter Kawazu was open to thoughts on how Unlimited should be approached.A remaster would be mega based.
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>>732886721you are like the equivalent of a star wars fan who just can't understand why people don't like the sequel trilogy.
I honestly just do not care anymore. Square Enix has convinced me that any money I throw their way is wasted.I'm just not going to care anymore. I'm out of patience with these mother fuckers, and I honestly tried. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they have worked very hard to prove they're not worth my time or money.
>>732897648Keep making Ad hominem, also I don’t like the sequel trilogy either. But keep making false equivalencies between Star Wars and Final Fantasy (especially when SW is one continuous narrative while the FF series isn’t)
>last good FF they made was FFX when they were still SquaresoftThat was 25 years ago
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>>732897670>>732897839Cry more, doomers.
>>732897935
>>732876412^ He's out of line, but he's not wrong.
>>732898058He is wrong.
>>732898114Nah he's right and you've brought nothing to the thread.
>>732898056
>>732898176Wrong: www.finalfantasywhatever.com/2020/01/final-fantasy-xiv-review-2020-ver.html
>>732897992Instead of being a pathetic simpering faggot, how about you give us a reason to still believe in this dogshit company run by the most out of touch boomers on the fucking planet?What are they doing that keeps your faith, huh? How about you tell us that.
>>732898180
>>732898239>2020lollmao
>>732898316See >>732886721Also 4Chan is full of out of touch boomers.
>>732897206I'm not the one who can't understand basic emotional cues autismo
>>732898361He still likes current XIV.
>>732898419>Has no argumentOG IX sucks no matter how much you want to defend it.
>>732898332
>>732898239>2020That's 6 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2Ct3yyB4g
Desperately trying to get out of any marketing contracts with Playstation for FF7R3 so they can market it multiplat with PC & Switch 2
>>732897817FF7R butchered the story with multiverse trash and filler garbage. It's not nostalgia to think that. But go on, keep praising square for giving you hot steaming garbage and slapping "FF7" on the title so you can clap like a seal at seeing the characters again.
>>732898661Okay? He still likes current XIV: www.finalfantasywhatever.com/2024/04/everything-is-great-actually.html
>>732898770>This single guy still likes FF14>That means the latest expansion Dawntrail wasn't a complete fiasco causing people to quit in the hundreds of thousands, sub money to dry up and Square Enix to report a massive slow down in revenue>Oh but this guy still likes FF14Ok? Again I'll ask you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2Ct3yyB4g
>>732898721For the zillionith time, it’s not a “multiverse” it’s dreams within the lifestream. >>732887414
>>732898908www.finalfantasywhatever.com/2024/08/final-fantasy-xiv-dawntrail-review.htmlwww.finalfantasywhatever.com/2025/09/ffxiv-endwalker.html
>>732898919>FF7 is the future of FFX>dreams of the fayth>dreams within the lifestream
>>732898919It doesn't really matter what you call it. It's retarded nonsense and you should feel bad for defending it.
>>732899132Sephiroth is supposed to be an unreliable narrator here.
>>732899242>Sephiroth is supposed to be an unreliable narrator here.sure thing bro. I guess i imagined all of the Zack sequences. It doesn't matter what kind of excuse you give. It's horrible garbage that takes a massive fat dump on the story.
>>732899075>Is unable to communicate in English basic conceptsI got my answer from Brian Blessed's question. You are.
>>732899132>>732898721Cry more.
>>732899415Not his fault you don’t have a better page translator.
>>732899448
>>732899513It's your fault for your ESL education that you can't understand my post here.>>732898908Read it, specifically the second line.
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>>732899448Damn bro a screenshot from some Russian website said it so it must be true. I changed my mind. I guess all the multiverse fate timeline (or whatever you want to call it) garbage is actually wonderful storytelling and totally rancid dogshit that only a literal retard would enjoy.
>>732899585Yeah? I posted you a link showing that he was pretty positive of Dawntrail as well.
they just released a new game todayhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1598230/KILLER_INN/
>>732898563that's funny, why do you bother posting your own walls of text if you only really care about your e-boyfriend's opinion?
>>732899657Well that Russian guy has more viewer comprehension than you do, AND he has just written a book about the FF series: https://bombora.ru/book/179501/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=tg_game&utm_campaign=final_fantasy_predzakaz
>>732899692Anon you've got a window you missed, your tongue is required.
>>732899902damn bro he wrote a book? I guess that makes the dogshit fate ghost timeline garbage actually good or something i guess.
>>732899807He recently wrote a book on the FF series.
>>732876025They had a yearly financial report and in they essentially said they were unironically taking a year off.For new games all we know about for 2026 is adventures of elliot (new ip) and the onimusha reboot I think.
>>732900039>onimusha rebootnvm that's capcom, idk what else besides eliot then.
>>732900025The whispers were introduced to get fans speculating that things might unfold different in the Remake. A plot device to add mystery and open the door for changes. Never was this intended to be a sequel or a “multiverse”. Never has Square mentioned it was a sequel. It's a Remake. Which is what it's titled.Not taking it out on you but at some point this has to stop lolThere are several popular theories that it’s actually a true remake with a lot of expanded lore. This video explains it: https://youtu.be/Y2PNbO-YO3w?si=WX5IVJpQdknR8Ci_
Why would they be at a Sony Direct?
they have failed us
>>732900037Can you answer the question instead of trying to shill some retarded snownigger's fanbook?
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>>732900137>The whispers were introduced to get fans speculating that things might unfold different in the Remake. A plot device to add mystery and open the door for changes.which is fucking stupid. Nobody in their right mind wanted that. They wanted the story of FF7> It's a Remake. Which is what it's titled.And? Does that somehow negate that the shitty timeline/fate/multiverse/lifestream dream/whateverthefuck nonsense being complete trash that takes a massive shit on the storytelling? No, it doesn't. It's garbage. It doesn't matter what you want to call it or what justificiation you want to give, it's rancid dogshit that only a complete braindead moron could defend.
>>732876025FF7 remake part 3 is probably in dev hell over how to end the story they butchered or possibly debating a part 4. FF17 is probably like 30% done. Possibly working on remaking FF10 or something. Their games have recently been flops too so they are probably starting to run low on money which means killing smaller games and firing their devs
>>732900238Can you stop being a racist manchild? Both his and my overviews of FF games like IX are similar so I use both, because he makes valid points.
>>732900416Your overview of IX is just fixating on two things you didn't like about it for 3000 pages, I don't even think you have genuinely similar opinions
>>732900401>They wanted the story of FF7And we still got that with expansions. See >>732880927
>>732900482Wrong, I criticize other things too, Freya and Fratley’s unfinished arc, Beatrix being a god-mode sue war criminal, Steiner, the Black Mages and mist not being explored enough, Kuja and everything regarding Terra.
They are acting like retards
>>732900412Keep doom posting.
>>732900616So one actual thing and five more "why isn't this exactly what I want it to be" things because you can't mentally grasp the material?
>>732882758Manufactured outrage because the women in FF7 are pure sex and mods make them even hotter.
>>732900501>And we still got that with expansions.If by "expansions" you mean "extra terrible dogshit that actively makes the story significantly worse on top of ruining the pacing" but even then it's not entirely true. Remind me where Dyne jumping off a cliff is in Rebirth? Oh right it's not there. Remind me of where the party meets Cid in FF7? Oh right it's in Rocket Town while in Rebirth it's in Gongaga and he's not really even the same character.
>>732900401Cry more, read the bottom part of this page: www.finalfantasywhatever.com/2025/06/lets-play-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-6.html
>>732900854Sorry i don't read vodkanigger. Doesn't change the fact that the multiverse shit is retarded. Keep coping.
>>732900854I'm not giving your boyfriend hits
Square outright posted they were expecting lower revenue due to lack of releases during the restructure. I feel like people just saw news Square when they do layoffs or when they did the multiplatform push announcement but ignored everything else about that reboot plan because they were as explicit as it gets about what they were doing. Shocks me every time when people are left mouth agape when Square has nothing to show besides remasters and minor remakes.
>>732900412>FF7 remake part 3 is probably in dev hellI have no idea why so many people expected them to show it off this quickly. The game only came out two years ago. There was 4 years between Rebirth and Remake. You shouldn't expect news for Part 3 until 2027 at the earliest.
>>732900834>Remind me where Dyne jumping off a cliff is in Rebirth?So? His suicide was simply changed to suicide by cop, which is far more relevant and topical, Sergey Tsylyurik also says that Rebirth improved on the Dyne scenario.>Remind me of where the party meets Cid in FF7? Oh right it's in Rocket Town while in Rebirth it's in Gongaga and he's not really even the same character.Also good, Cid’s original introduction sucked and his story didn’t have much relevance to the overall narrative and his treatment of his wife was problematic, in Rebirth he knew Aerith’s biological mom, giving him more of a connection to the main cast.
>>732900834Cope and seethe, purist. The OG lets Barret off the hook very easily. Dyne just says that he's nuts, loses the fight and does the “heroic” thing by removing himself. Nothing of value there.
>>732900918Not my boyfriend, but keep making assumptions about me. I don’t agree with EVERY LITTLE word that he says.
>at a Nintendo direct last week solely because of how mad they were that rebirth flopped on PS5>expecting them to be at a PlayStation event after that
>>732901121>far more relevant and topicalI don't think you really get what FF7 or the damage Shinra causes are about, especially if you think Cid being caustic around Shera is genuinely more problematic than the circumstances they live in or that his desire to leave the planet being unfulfillable is irrelevant to the story.
>>732876025They're cooking. Just hold up.
>>732901464It's burnt already
>>732901431I don't need to assume anything considering you won't take his dick out of your mouth long enough to even try and point out what you're trying to cite from him
>>732901121>So? His suicide was simply changed to suicide by copNo the Shinra guards were there to kill him anyway. So it becomes him making a tragic last stand instead of just jumping off a cliff out of regret. > Sergey Tsylyurik also says that Rebirth improved on the Dyne scenario.Damn I really don't care at all. The fact that you argue like this just proves to everyone else how retarded you are.>and his treatment of his wife was problematicKill yourself onions. Part of his character is him dealing with his anger issues. Now he's just a bland wholesome chungus from the start.
>>732901458You mean the things about Cid that don’t go anywhere or you are just making up headcanon about?>I don't think you really get what FF7 or the damage Shinra causes are about.Oh I definitely do, see the pic.
>>732901328>personally, I'm fine with square censoring anything problematic about the original and injecting a bunch of fanfic bullshit and if you don't like it you're just a PURIST.
>>732901593>No the Shinra guards were there to kill him anyway. So it becomes him making a tragic last stand instead of just jumping off a cliff out of regret.Wrong, they were there for Avalanche, they actually took shots at Barret and Dyne got in the way to charge at them. Keep misremembering though.
>Have to wait for the shit remake to be done for more Kingdom HeartsI hate this stupid company
>>732901593>>732901730Cope. Also, Rocket Town and Cid’s wife is clearly being saved for part 3.
>>732901730Not a censor, it’s a rewrite, keep crying.
>>732901596>ff7 is solely about muh cops badpretty sure the game is about unchecked greed and powerlust despoiling the planet while abusing and demoralizing it's people to the point where the consequences and retribution against those in power affect everyone negatively, not just the oppressors. Making dyne a drug addict is just muddling that message and making his death a feeble heroic sacrifice is even worse, and the fact that you can't understand that Cid's dreams not going anywhere is part of the narrative kind of just showcase how little you actually comprehend about the story.
>>732901741They were going to kill everyone there. Instead of killing himself by jumping to his death he dies in a heroic last stand and then immediately afterward Palmer shows up in his frog mech. do you not understand how that totally changes things?
>>732901890>they didn't change anything actually even though they changed it for the betterYou are the only one coping here
>>732901749Hey, hey, that shit remake is protecting you from more Kingdom hearts handheld/mobile sloppa
>>732901890yeah bro. I'm sure the same square-enix who can't have him smoke or curse is going to have him be the exact same. You can't be this retarded.>>732901964It's a shitty rewrite for censorship reasons because showing suicide is "problematic." Keep gobbling that dogshit though.
>>732902124KH schizo dream logic storytelling is more entertaining than shitting on a pre-existing story.
>>732902015Cops are a part of that powerlust and capitalism, keep being politically illiterate and missing my nuance.
>>732902149>>732901730>>732901593Keep being a doomer and not properly analyzing things like Sergey does.
>>732902283>missing my nuance>literally just the most lukewarm liberal ""criticism"" of capital plastered over a random image from the original game You are genuinely braindead
>>732902405"problematic." opinion discarded. Stop being gay.
Who let the schizo out of the asylum?
>>732876192Kek fpbp
>>732902405>the og painting Shinra as incompetent is bad because they send a guy related to the town there to do it but when that guy arbitrarily shows up in Rebirth in a completely unrelated scene and Shinra is shown as equally incompetent it's completely fine because it's full of wacky setpiecesWow, what a visionary critique.
>>732902149It was still suicide, just by cop.
>>732876025You're starting to feel the consequences of Rebirth flopping so hard they had to cancel all their game.
>>732902419Liberals are not leftwing or even critical of capitalism you politically illiterate moron.
>>732902720Whatever you say, wannabe commie
>>732902641keep coping.
>>732902618It makes no sense why in the OG VII Rufus needed Cid’s Tiny Bronco when he is a rich CEO of a monolith mega corporation that has tons of other bigger air vehicles at his disposal, keep ignoring that shattering of suspension of disbelief though.
>>732902720why are you defending an apolitical piece of corporate media that actively humanizes a capitalist world government again?
>>732902825>>732902149>>732902041>>732902015>>732901593Keep trying to cope after reading this.
>>732902893WTF are you talking about? VII does NOT humanize Shinra (particularly the leaders) the Remake is even more clear about it’s leftwing commentary, VII is NOT “apolitical”.
>>732902984>it's better because it just is okAgain, really riveting material here
>>732902893A lot of FF games are pretty leftwing actually, but keep missing that message.
>>732903081>Me when I pretend the Turks don't exist and the compilation franchise doesn't try and play Rufus off as a good guy constantly
E33's success compared to FFXV mindbroke them. They genuinely don't understand how to make a good RPG anymore so they're probably dumping billions into new R&D.
>>732902984>>732903116Keep coping.
>>732902871Nobody's ignoring anything. Pointing out flaws in the OG story doesn't negate the massive heaping shit FF7r takes on it.
>>732903202Are you legitimately brain damaged? Why do you keep posting this shit as if some random guys' blogpost proves any sort of point?
>>732903145pretty left wing is liberal cope, chuddie. OG FF7 showcases that the human race is beyond redemption while the compilation slop including demake circlejerks and humanizes Shinra employees and leadership as good goys just following orders and trying to survive the mess they caused
>>732876025Licking their wounds after E33 blew them the fuck out by proving people DO like turn based games and that you don't need one gorillion dollars and to allow nomura retardation for FF games to exist in a modern market. Literally go back to your fucking roots, niggers. But they're japs, they don't "learn" lessons they just continue to pretend everything is ok and they will keep sucking senior employee cock even if it ruins them further.
>>732903202Bro can't even consistently spell someone's name right, this is a low IQ opinion.
>>732903189The Remake’s are actually taking the Turk’s actions that caused the destruction of Sector 7 more seriously than what the OG (should have) did, unlike the OG VII the Remakes don’t forget what the Turks are responsible for and it is repeatedly brought up, plus at least they showed hesitation and regret over it and where shaken up by it, unlike what the OG did.As for Rufus, Shinra has already collapsed by the time that AC comes around, and Rufus didn’t found Shinra, his father did, he just inherited it for a short while after his dad was killed.
>>732903391>more seriously>no one besides the retard trio fucking dieslmao
>>732903372No, it’s just a wonky translation of Russian to English, keep grasping at straws.
>>732903434You really don’t think there where tons of deaths besides Biggs, Jessie and Wedge (the last whom didn’t die until later) in the upper sector 7 that wasn’t even evacuated? Heck, even in the sector 7 slums you still that not everyone has gotten out when the plate falls and in the aftermath you and the neighbourhood watch go into the sector 7 ruins to look for any survivors in the wreckage. You really don’t pay any attention, do you? You just pound the “REMAKE SUXS” drums over and over to drown everything else out.
>>732903202>>732902984>youtuber video essay that's just a point by point retread of every plot element with them commenting "I like this more now"Amazing, thrilling dissection of the material. Truly a visionary. Did you know this guy wrote a book?
>>732903747they literally cut out every element of the original scene that make it look like people are in danger after letting you escort every single NPC out of the area
The original game was even more retarded, they're doing you a favor with Rebirth.
>>732903351Stop using the Game awards as a “valid” criticism.
>>732903351> But they're japs, they don't "learn" lessonsCapcom did for the most part. This is primarily a Square issue where, despite having some of the most talented artists and musicians in the business, they don't seem to actually have any understanding anymore of what makes a game good or bad in pretty much any genre. There's an infinite number of spinoffs they could make with the FF franchise but they can't because whatever they try they bungle in some major way. WoFF had the good idea of being an FF monster collecting game but making it all about references to past games in a mostly funko pop artstyle kind of wrecked it, meanwhile Capcom is putting out stuff like Monhun stories 3.
>>732903747I definitely think there were less than the og, and the stuff regarding it featuring cait sith just feels like something out of a high school play and completely takes the player out of the scene
>>732903391so further humanizing them as just following orders? Not beating the globohomo libslop allegations here
>>732903798>after letting you escort every single NPC out of the areaNot every single NPC, you still see people in the slums when the plate falls, so there where still casualties below and ESPECIALLY above the plate (which wasn’t even evacuated) or do you think the upper section doesn’t count? Not everything has to be “grimdark” which is a problem that old FF games suffered from, especially IX.
>>732903962Stop nitpicking, Cait Sith was meant to give more foreshadowing for Reeve, and the aftermath is played very seriously especially with the sorrowful music. You are just blinded by Nostalgia worship.
>>732904124Everybody who hadn't played the original was just confused as to why there was a cartoon cat thing there. If you played the original you already know about Reeve and Cait Sith but someone playing the "remake" as their first go will just be confused as fuck.
>>732904006>so further humanizing them as just following orders? Not what I said, and the game clearly isn’t saying “just following orders” is an excuse, it’s just making the Turks more three dimensional and consistent. Unlike OG Reno who came off as a flipping sociopath in sector 7 but then the game tries to act like he isn’t such a bad guy later and sector 7 is never brought up again. Keep thinking that the original VII was perfectly written.
>>732876025Hostile takeover in <5 years
>>732904292> Keep thinking that the original VII was perfectly written.the thing is literally nobody has ever made this argument. It's just your cope to try to deal with the massive fat shit 7R took on the story. Maybe there's some elements on the original that could have used improvement, but that's vastly outweighed by the garbage changes.
>>732904217That’s the whole point, Remake’s target audience is manly the people who played the original.
