Space Station 13. Do you play it? Why did you stop? Let's talk about it I want to talk about it.
And I made a thread yesterday but things happened and I wasn't even able to reply.And to you anonymous I would have said that I play on /vg/station, and it's just the way it was a decade ago. It's the only server left adhering to oldschool rules I'd say, even UI is the way it was./tg/ died completely when they took away the intents.
>>732925373>do you play it?no, i'm not autistic enough
>>732925373Oversimplification of the mechanics and shitty admins are ruining it.SS13 used to be about complexity, but many servers and now ss14 are trying to make things more streamlined to make them new player friendly or what fucking ever. Airlocks don't exist anymore. They are a fucking fan in the ground.Also admins are troonie shitters powertripping or then mishandling or inable to understand how to run these communities/servers which causes servers to bleed out. I.e. paradise station. They used to be big, but now they only get 30 players when they flushed everyone out KEK
So uhhhhh what happened with SS14?
>>732925373Used to play itGot bored of the jank
SS13 was a lot of fun back in the day. Played it in prime tg days (though it was ruined for a couple weeks every time a thread would surface on /v/). Haven't checked in in quite a while and it sounds like from this thread I'd just be sad.
>>732925792SS14 is the worst parts of SS13 condensed.Yes its code is slick and easy to work with, but it doesn't even have the tile-based movement, which is a basic fucking thing I need. It also doesn't have the intent mode going for the TG shit.And also all the troonkind migrated there, so the servers are the way there are, and you will automatically get booted by saying N word even once.
>>732925984I also played on /tg/ before it become TG. But all the servers just "evolved" in the way I don't care about. Be it code or community-wise./vg/ is the only thing left for me. Shame it suffers from no players in most of the hours.
The fate of SS13 is the greatest argument for total tranny death.
You can make electricity to power the station by feeding corgi dogs to the supermatter shard.
>>732925373Trannies ruined it
I played it back when I was a poorfag teenager, before Goonstation did the sprite revamp. It was fun back then but now you can't even say bitch without getting banned and everyone is crazy meta with everything.I had a good time, but I think I'm done with it. SS14 just didn't feel the same to me.
makes me rather sad and wistful that /vg/station is kill.I had a lot of fun there before I found a more local serb so I didn't have to be a ping wizard.
>>732925373>Do you play it?No>Why did you stop?Every server I used to play on has been taken over by trannies who can't even handle fictional racism against lizardpeople and/or filled with dramafags and/or had their codebase ruined with every fun mechanic removed and replaced with bloat.
Thread eye candy
>>732925557I might have to go back and see if my name still generates a spergout. Does Pomf still run it?
>>732925792it's more popular than ss13 at this point with multiple 100+ pop serversis it full of trannies and is the game itself a bastardisation of the original game? yeah, but that doesn't change what I said before
>>732925654>They used to be big, but now they only get 30 players when they flushed everyone out KEKI've noticed this with a lot of servers, Paradise, Bay, TG, I used to think it was just admin retardation but now I'm pretty sure it's deliberate. These people would rather kill their servers or reduce them to lowpop than allow anyone who is remotely chuddy or isn't part of their clique to play on them.Like when TGstation had that retarded wall sprite change that made the game literally unplayable for a lot of people, the people in charge of the codebase were content with just letting the server have almost no players and refused to revert it until MSO threatened to switch TG to another codebase to get players back. Having a server that consists of 5 dicksuckers and gets basically no activity is preferable to having an actual active community but has people that aren't going to put up with bullshit. I stopped playing altogether around then but I know TG has had more retarded drama for similar reasons and is almost deadpop 24/7 now.
>>732927662It's not kill. It just doesn't get new blood, thus it's all the oldfags who only play at certain hours. Especially in the US time zones. EU time zones are dead.>>732928489Yes. You can join the d*scord or IRC channel. Unfortunately the generals have been colonized by shiposters so I don't bother to even check them.
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>>732925373>Why did you stop?Shitty admins, shitty players. Things ain't the same.
>>732929282These'd go hard on a ERP server
>>732929606Bet you played on /tg/.
>>732925373SINGULOOOOOOOOOOSE
>>732929736>>732929938honk
>>732930435Are those your sprites?
>>732929938HONK!
>>732930526No. It's a collection of various sprites from the years
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>>732925373ui and controls suckplaying with other people sucksthe concept rarely worked as people would just fuck about or mess things up deliberately
>>732925373I started playing it back in 2017~, then the explosion happened about a year later with sseth and reggie i think releasing videos, making the population bloatIt was fun a busing all the new players.What wasn't fun was the meta gamers. They ruin everything, and it's planly obvious that they're doing it.I even contributed a bunch of fixes/code to vgstation
>>732930834>ui and controls suckI literally refuse to play ss14 because of ui and controls.
>>732930834It works to a small niche and that's the point retard, but they can't even keep that small community together. Devs think they can get more players by trying to make the formula easier to non-autists. That'll never work and just makes it shittier to those who are there to actually play the game.>ui is shit>controls shit>inventory shitIf normies don't understand it and can't meta it, good.
>>732930834>ui and controls suckI found the controls to be very natural after a while of playing, pressing 'x' to switch hands seems weird at first but it quickly becomes second nature. This game is just inherently complex so complicated controls are needed to actually allow interaction with everything.>playing with other people sucksI kinda agree here, it's usually hit or miss whether or not you get fun people or obnoxious shitbags in the same round or department as you and the lowest lows feel much stronger than the highest highs.>the concept rarely worked as people would just fuck about or mess things up deliberatelyThere's a non-zero chance that those people were antagonists so they had to fuck shit up. The game gets very boring if it's just multiple hour-long rounds of people just doing their jobs or chatting with no conflict. Every worthwhile server allows some degree self-antagging so people can spice up rounds.
>>732928902>It just doesn't get new blood,Another Tubertide needs to happen to SS13 but I don't think it could happen again under this heavily algorithmic internet
>>732932279It wouldn't be as boring if they made the jobs more interesting. Botany is easily one of the more fun jobs with so much content and stuff you can do with it. Meanwhile chemistry is just remembering every formula with unlimited chemicals. It becomes boring, fast when you do the same thing over and over and you know the results. Genetics could be interesting if they introduced having to collect genes instead of giving you free monkies you can magically mutate to shoot lasers from your eyes.
>>732925373I played it. I stopped because I didn't have the time to devote like 1-2 continuous hours to a good round and it was becoming less worth it the more I knew the game. Also as with literally every internet space, people who bring in shit from other platforms slowly took over and I don't care for the soup of participating in 30 different communities just to play one fucking game.
>>732932608Are you proposing that SS13 should be a fucking co-op game about keeping the station running and not what it fundamentally is?
>>732932608>Meanwhile chemistry is just remembering every formula with unlimited chemicalsUnfortunately if anyone tried to change chemistry they would get a lot of negative feedback because the chemistry system is one of the most long-established ones in the game. Limited chemicals or randomized chemical recipes have both been suggested/tried in the past on several servers and usually ended with a lot of frustration.>Genetics could be interesting if they introduced having to collect genes instead of giving you free monkies you can magically mutate to shoot lasers from your eyesI don't know what server(s) you play on but it used to be like that in several codebases. They changed it because it meant that geneticists couldn't do anything on lowpop rounds and also people were powergaming/metagaming it by just speedrunning collecting samples then using automated tools/scripts to complete the gene sequences.
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>>732925373Everytime the server or client updated, it was a coin toss if the client version you were using would still even run the game. I can stand the janky UI, the clunky controls and the fucking eldritch invocations you have to learn in the game engine in order to do some of the more complex jobs, but the game engine itself is almost the Ship of Theseus by this point.Also, the admins sold out, and the userbase kinda went to shit after Mandalore and Sseth did their videos on the game.
>>732932857Maybe, but many of the current jobs are more bare-bones than they should after two decades.>>732933027frustration > boredom. The current system isn't much better of staying in the department and clicking until you complete it all and afterwards you're a glorified greytider.>>732933109I remember the most engagement I had as a chemist was having to go collect fungus off some maintenance walls to make LSD and that wasn't even a part of the job.
>>732933553>nu-TG sprites
*set dice on the table*
>>732925654>Airlocks don't exist anymore. They are a fucking fan in the ground.Wat
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>>732934546This stops space. Iirc the CE has a holographic one which does the same thing and all you need to do is place it down with that holographic projector item. The act of going through airlocks is gone from many servers.
RIP Scarlet ReachAt least I managed to score before it shut down.
>>732934295>>732934847fuck that reminds me on some servers there's a chance for cursed die to randomly spawn in maints, I found one once, used it and got dusted, and no one ever believed afterwards
>>732934958But that just sounds like they made a new type of door that is an air barrier even when it's open, not a complete removal of airlocks.
>>732935158It's not a removal of doors, it's a removal of airlocks you had to cycle to enter space. This fan shit makes no sense and it's everywhere because adhd autists can't comprehend having to deal with kino semi-realistic mechanics that take time.
>>732935437>open outer airlock>step inside first airlock>get blown out into space>return to the airlock by throwing something>repeat a couple times until the airlock is actually empty>finally open inner airlock>get blown out into space from all the air inside arrivals leaving>outer airlock recloses first, refilling the outer airlock>repeatAt a certain point you have to wonder why station external airlocks don't come with buttons like the outposts.
>>732935065No fun allowed coders removed them because they couldn't take being killed off by curiosity. Cursed dices was made harder to find
>>732925373brother it's the only thing like it in the whole fucking world
>>732935437>removing the part where you can hack inWhy the fuck
I wish /vg/station actually had players. It's the only server that actually expands on the classic sprites and game mechanics instead of modernizing them.
>>732935437I didn't even know that SS13 used to have realistic airlocks, but then again I didn't start playing until 2019
>>732936015I will play with your right now if you want.
>>732935437Isn't the fan just a tile thing that makes air not pass through a tile even though players can? That doesn't remove airlocks.
>>732935898For me, it was the half baked maintenance wendigo and that one zombie in deficiency.Sometimes, opening an airlock should just kill you.
>>732925373Does the WebView2 update let me play it on Linux yet?
>>732936039Not sure if he meant this, but you can make like a semi-automated set up with outerior interior airlock and pressurized chamber.It's not used everywhere.
>>732925792Trans drama involving child grooming, the usual.
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>>732935898>Cursed dices was made harder to findThat's because if you roll poorly you can blow up a chunk of the station.
>>732936532Nothing worse than igniting a welder tank.It is a relatively minor disruption unless you are throwing it at people like a bomb.
>>732936532And?
>>732936234Technically it should, you can install BYOND with Lutris and it will work. However, TGUI (which is unfortunately used by all the servers) will cause you issues.>>732936073I've played my fair share of no-player rounds. I'm not logging on unless I see 20+ people.
>>732925373I love SS13. I think its a shame that /tg/ went the way it did. Coders making changes when they don't even play the game with trannies banning players for being too robust. Somehow sprite makers being the worst of the three. The days of having 200-300 players spaced between the servers is gone, I've tried ss14 but the lack of tiles is just so alien. Maybe I'll try it out again.
>>732936736>>732936778https://files.catbox.moe/b40iq5.webm
>>732936015>decide to check out /vg/station>after playing a bit to learn the unique mechanics as a janny or whatever, decide to try out a more important job, i think it was hop some other head job>some greyshirt starts following me around>they keep fucking with me nonstop>shoving me, trying to start fights, etc. all normal tider shit but only directed at me specifically>eventually get tired of their shit and try to get sec to arrest them>no response>try to deal with them myself, barely out-robust them solo, drag them to medbay so they can get healed>think that's the end of it and they'll leave me alone>later they come back with some other people and kill me under the pretense that I attacked them earlier>get pissed and confused over what had just happened but stay in the round observing>later the greyshit that was harassing me all shift gets killed by an antag or whatever>in dead chat they start raging at me>accused me of "stealing their job" and that everyone on the server knows they only play <job>>several other people (presumably their metabuddies) in dead chat act like I'm in the wrong too, like I should've known not to pick that specific job for some reason>get called a threadshitter and a schizo for pointing out how retarded it is for someone and their metafriends to ruin people's game just because they didn't get the virtual job they wanted>decide "fuck it" and stop playing on /vg/ because it's no different from any other tranny clique server on the hubYeah no, /vg/ is dead/dying for a reason like most other SS13 servers
>>732937015>accused me of "stealing their job" and that everyone on the server knows they only play <job>I don't believe you. Logs are public. Show evidence.
>>732937173that shit was like a couple of years ago and I'm not going logdiving for shit that happened that long ago
>>732937272Well, I'm the most one-job-playing-person on this fucking servers and I wouldn't care.
>>732936532>game is about people living on a station>can't afford having the engineer do his job???
>>732937015Imagine making shit up about some shitty empty private server for some old shitty niche game such as thisHere is your (You)pvote
>>732937453>>732937004
>>732936532It wouldn't be a cursed dice without rolling poorly and blowing up a chunk of the station.
>>732937004>>732937586I don't see a problem. But if you do, then maybe you are the kind of faggot who must apply for admin on one of the servers immediately.
The slopschizo unironically won.Not that the threads were good, but once he started shitting up the already dying threads it was the final nail in the coffin.They were banished to /vm/ and even there it looks unusable.This really is one of those games where you simply had to be there.
>>732937702It should be a rare treat, for once in a while. Not every round.
>>732937464it's not made up at all but not surprising that people from the /vg/ circlejerk would be here defending their metaclique>>732937730from my experience on /vg/station, a lot of the active players were discordtrannies who hated the 4chan thread and tried to actively get people to stop using it. I'm guessing whoever spams AI slop in the threads is one of those discordtrannies or because everyone has stopped using the threads the AI slop spammer now has free reign to do whatever he wants in it.
kino thread
>>732938231Holy shit. Are you telling me ANUK plays on /vg/station?
>>732938454All of those are real VG players. I don't know or care what the heck an anuk is.
my face when I play SS13
>>732937015>>732937272>a couple years agoAssistants can't even get away with looking at sec the wrong way nowadays. The problem you're complaining about was resolved a long time ago.
>>732934960>RIP Scarlet ReachYou actually played on those awful medieval servers?You realize that all of those servers were spin-offs from a leaked old build of lifeweb that was spun into a scam server by people who were such awful subhumans that they were even banned from that shit hole.If you still played this dogshit godforsaken game after 2017, then YOU are part of the reason why this game died.
>>732937015lmaoNormalnigger ran into Schlomo, a literal jew discord autistic pedophile who only plays HoP.This guy kills people for asking for access, stops anything that may be fun and for many years he would kill anyone who tries to get the magician suit that spawns in maint roundstart.That guy has full admin protection.
>>732925373I've gotten over all the whining from people allegedly wanting a "troon-free SS13/SS14 server." That shit is so easy to set up and get going, and you can easily just schedule it to like a Friday night so everyone can be join in at the same time and have players. Except, they don't join, because they don't give a shit about troon-free SS13. What they want is a constantly accessible playground that they can just drop in whenever they feel like, murderbone and shit up the round, and then leave when banned until they feel like multikeying to do it all over again. It's why, with the few that do join, they always leave the server super quickly, since they were just playing to join, be a nigger, and then leave. They just call the admins (who have banned them for being niggers and have put effort into cracking down on ban evading) "troons" because they're shitposters; of course they'd do that.
>>732940139Are you telling me that niggers on /v/ spend more time complaining about video games than actually playing video games?
>>732940139>That shit is so easy to set up and get goingMentally ill troon faggot. It's not easy at all to start a server going.If it was so easy you would do it.It's near impossible to reach new players. The people who play the game already have their own servers to play on. The people who left the game because of trans shit have already left and you can't contact them, the chance that they will see your /v/ thread is very slim.
>>732940139>That shit is so easy to set up and get goingSelf-hosting a public server in a community as deranged a SS13's may as well be suicideEvery hub or somewhat-known non-hub server has to pay for DDOS protection because some schizos made it their life's mission to DDOS any SS13 they can until it's taken down, not to mention fags will use your IP to verify any location doxx they can get on you.You have to pay for an actual server box and DDOS protection if you want to protect your anonymity and keep your server online. Most people don't have that income.
Mimes win.
/vg/'s greatest player gets unbanned tomorrow!come on EST evening for the celebration
>>732937015At what date did this happen though? I played a lot of assistant on /vg/ and they're at the bottom of the food chain, barely any respect, especially when greytiding.
>>732940047Well, yeah. There's no way I'm actually begging the staff of the secret club pedo-rape server just to play in the aforementioned pedo-rape server. I had my fun, shame to see it go though.
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>>732940816Kill transpedoself, tranny chaser
>>732940605>>732940675Thank you for proving the point exactly. What was stated in the post was setting up a server to play on with those that want troon-free SS13 in semi-private scheduled weekly sessions, as that's enough to get some good ass SS13 shifts in, and namely with those here on 4chan that have been actively whining non-stop for such a thing for years now and aren't hard to reach at all. I mean I'm here right now, calling you a nigger. Reaching out completed. What you then immediately jumped to whining about wanting instead is a public facing server that can reach and keep an active influx of new players, because as stated in the post, you>want a constantly accessible playground that you can just drop in whenever you feel like, murderbone and shit up the round, and then leave when banned until you feel like multikeying to do it all over againYou're just petty, whiny, piss-baby children that don't actually care about taking the chance to play some video games when you can.
>>732940836If you've played any time on VG you would know exactly who the player is. It's fucking lumbermancer. There is only one HoP main who kills people for ''stealing'' his role and getting blanket support from all the admins and the player base.That greentext is either true or someone who knows VG deeply to say shit that sounds 100% true.
>>732941424Kill yourself trans pedophileMake a server right now and get playable (25+) player numbers right now.
>>732925373Not autistic enough to get into it, and the community seems completely infested with trannies and other weirdos to the point that I feel like if I ever got into it, they'd run my social medias to find something I said that's objectionable 10 years later.
>>732941424Nigger you did not read my post.I don't disagree that actually getting people to play SS13 isn't as hard as it seems. But every server host I've interacted with has run into DDOSing issues and there's a reason people are advised not to share their IP with random people.If you don't think self-hosting is an issue, then spin up Dream Daemon right now to host your codebase of choice and post your IP and port in this thread right now
>>732941529>It's fucking lumbermancer. There is only one HoP main who kills people for ''stealing'' his roleYou are an absolute fucking liar. I have 4 jobs set round start. I also play AI the most. I will happily play AI so you can play HoP.Ask fucking Rebecca Llewellyn, she also plays HoP a lot, "stealing" the job from me all the time.Lying sack of shit.
>>732941695There is nothing autistic about the actual game. It's very simple. If you know WASD and how to click on things you can play SS13. The game is not more complicated than Stardew Valley.It's the tranny pedophile community that ruined the game, nothing else.
>>732941772Kill yourself pedomancer obesefaggotancerZero personality NPC subhumanFaggot who has literally never spoken to another human being in his entire life
pretty sure that post is talking about foodoro and not schlomo, I know xhe was banned before for killing people because they got detective instead of her
>>732927849>You cant say ligger anymoreThis really bums me out everytime I try playing again. I even get messaged by mods when saying retard or trying any prank as a clown.
>>732926226Son what the fuck you can't just post me dead on a beach.
>>732925373I enjoy watching videos of people playing it and explaining what's going on but I will never play it.
>>732933109
>>>/vm/2227385>>>/vm/2227385>>>/vm/2227385
>>732942114Why?
>>732942176because I'm a smoothbrained retard who would never be able to figure it out
>>732942241There is a dozen of jobs. Some are fucking autistic where you build a nuclear reactor and optimize the cooling loop for maximum performance.Some are less so, like chef where you just churn out slop for crew to eat.Some are none at all like assistant, where you just hang around, spectate, and do whatever you want (if you don't mind the possible consequences.
>>732942174VG in the house tonight
>>732925373Use to be a /vg/ineer. Lost intrest with SS14 as engineering got dumbed down to just singularly and solar. I miss fucking with atmospherics and building long laser arrays for the supermatter.
>>732942241same, I used to watch BlackPantsLegion cause his Checkers character was fun.
>>732942241just play chaplain or lawyer or some other job that doesn't require a lot of game knowledge and is just pure roleplay
>>732942543>The requested page could not be foundFucked up.
>>732942385>like chef where you just churn out slop for crew to eatthat sounds right up my alley, actually. maybe i'll give it a whirl.
>>732925373There are a couple reasons why I stopped. One is just having less time to play it. a good round requires a decent chunk of uninterrupted time, and its just hard to do. Second is that for every good round there are like 3 meh or bad rounds. Lastly I think a lot of the fun of SS13 was in learning it. Once I figured out how some of the systems worked they became less interesting. Reviving someone by applying a defibrator to their brain was fun once. I still look for games that have a similar feel. Barotrauma is probably the closest. and its still miles off. I think stationeers could be a good fit. it has all the systems necessary in theory.
>>732942653It's comfy.
>>732942645Did they rip your head right fucking off?
>>732942653Chef is one of the worst jobs because you have a discord EPR metaclique and they tend to ERP in the bar so they want the chef role.If you go chef you will 99% of the time get killed by the barman and an assistant, and the assistant will then take over the kitchen.
ERP never made sense in SS13, why would spessmen have need for sex when they have access to cloning and gene editing?
>>732942761Can't be posting that.>>732942787No he just used a toolbox to break the wizard's skull.
>>732925373Played it when it was good, when BYOND was in it's prime.
>>732940139Yeah that's fair. There were a number of SS13 servers that marketed themselves that way and they barely got players, like Merchant. The sort of people that care a lot about it are either oldfags that are rightfully complaining about it but are generally too burnt out or jaded to play again unless it fits specific criteria (like having enough players in the first place) or teenage newfags that prefer spending time on the internet than videogames.
>>732942761
>>732942653Ignore the other guy.And yeah, you can get creative with your kitchen as well.
>>732925373the only servers that let you fly ships and command ships are for faggots and they dont even let you be a pirate
Rippie Hippie.
Everybody told me this game was the funniest thing to ever exist and the emergent gameplay was unlike anything else, but it actually feels more like a locked door simulator with nothing to do until the 10 seconds you die or when the occasional furfaggot tries to start a conversation with you with his dick in his hand.
>>732925373>Why did you stop?Had my fill.Tried contributing to a codebase. Turned out I was a spriter instead, which meant I contributed nothing of value.Byond script confused me but maybe I was just retarded (I did add a few things but they were bad even if multiple codebases used what I added).Admin teams of the servers I was on were getting too real life political (reddit politics, I think this was pre-Trump, I got off before it got bad!)>>732926073>No tile-based movement>No intentsCan someone not fork it or does SS14 not work like that?>And also all the troonkind migrated thereDid it unironically make SS13 better? I think I stopped playing before peak real life trannydom hit>>732930834Honestly true
>>732943442You missed the boat, man. Game stopped being good every round like eight years ago. It's all furries butt-fucking each other, now.
>>732943508SS14 is not the kind of open source like 13. The dudes that made it have final say in all servers being hosted and what they do with their codebase.Doesn't help that literally their entire team is trans. If they don't like what they see, your server is banned.
>>732943442>Everybody told me this game was the funniest thing to ever exist and the emergent gameplay was unlike anything else, but it actually feels more like a locked door simulator with nothing to do until the 10 seconds you dieThis is the kind of game where you're playing a bunch of boring rounds for the chance that something amazing happens and you to experience it first hand.>or when the occasional furfaggot tries to start a conversation with you with his dick in his hand.Your fault for playing on furry ERP servers.
Waiting for someone to make a single player version of this with bots using LLM's so I don't have to deal with trannies and furries
>>732943627When did every coder in the world become trans?I almost hit that pipeline too, but then I stopped being a coder (because I never got another job; hyper competitive workforce with no jobs available)The last time I talked to a school friend who became a coder he just went off on one about JK Rowling, though he was always outwardly queer and grew up loving Adventure Time/Gravity Falls/Banned ShowIs it in the water?
>>732943908Autistic people do autistic things, but not a conversation to have on /v/.I just want to be a spessman.
>>732943542>lol i'm so heckin' schizo XDDI can tell that's TG from the admin's name and would be inclined to think that ban would be bullshit if there weren't receipts for the most forced unoriginal schizoposting ever, people should stop acting like retards in admin PMs if they want to actually convince people of the truth that admins are all fags.
>>732944081That's some good reporting, right there.
>>732944021I'm sorry anon but it's an inseparable part of SS13 to be oppressed by trannies
>>732943442You fell for the VG faggot shillingThey have an active discord with 2000 members and only 15 players
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>>732944021>>732944081>>732944290>>732944585unfunny VGpedophile faggotry
>>732944585God I miss when every round was like this.
>>732943542Am I supposed to disagree with the decision to ban you?Every retarded underage that finds this game off a youtuber comes in thinking they're funny until they have to find out the hard way theyre not
>>732944791
I remember there being some insanely autistic and repetitive people back when I still played this game.I used to play botanist a lot when I was first starting off, I would very often be co-workers with some guy who wouldn't say a word and just silently grow weed and mutate it every single round, then extract some chemicals from the mutated weed (I think it was meth) and just ingest that and run around. And when he ran out of chems, he would grow more weed and repeat the process. He did this for the entire round (or until he was killed) for like the several dozen rounds I've played with him.And then there were the clowns and mimes who wouldn't even get up to shenanigans, they would just like walk around basically being NPCs, at first I figured they were new players who didn't know how to do anything, but no, they would pick clown/mime whenever they could and just spend the entire round barely interacting with anything or anyone and just kinda walking around.There was also a guy who would blatantly AFK every round unless he rolled antag, which he would then proceed to murderbone/powergame as hard as he could, but never got banned for it because he was a coder for the server and friends with the tranny admins. I started messing with his SSD body while he was AFKing waiting for an antag popup, doing shit like hiding him in lockers or stealing his gear, until I was bwoinked by admins for fucking with the guy they decided has total impunity to punishment.
>>732942385Learning the intricacies and applications of atmos sounds interesting to me but then every time I play it I finish doing basic optimization and then hit a brick wall. I dont even know where to start. It seems like something you have to be talked through by someone else already in the know which seems unnecessary for what boils down to a numbers game.
>>732945475Just follow the pipes and it'll all make sense.
