This game peaked on episode 1 (back when episode 1 was the entire game). The creator took the haha incest jokes from Reddit and 4chan, and flanderized the story in episodes 2 and 3. Never should have left itch.io.
>>732945502New episode when?
>>732945502>flanderized the story in episodes 2 and 3nobody broke character. what was seen is their inner personality spilling out in dire scenarios or established comfort zones.
game should have been a full on sisterfucking game from the very start
This is now a Renee thread
>>732945502TCOAAR episode 3 when?
>>732945502Forced incest
>>732945502The name doesn't even make sense now. "The coffin" in the title clearly referred to the apartment they lived in in episode 1. Now, most of the story isn't even taking place in "the coffin". Sure, they can retroactively make the "The coffin" refer to something more metaphorical, but it obviously wasn't the original intent. Not that the coomer brain fans of the latter episodes give a shit.
>>732945502So is the main gimmick of this series "look at how horrible of a person I am, isn't that hot?"
>>732947053Episode 1 is a story about an abusive co-dependent relationship between two mentally disturbed siblings, who were forced to undergo even further moral degradation in order to survive.The following episodes were just a "will they won't they" storyline about two psychopathic siblings filled with reddit/4chan tier jokes.
>>732946951you don't need to be in a shoebox apartment to suffocate or be surrounded from all sides or to bury your past. what did you think the car scene represented? thats right. shrek and donkey in the wagon
>>732946951Didn't get out of the apartment in episode one?If that's a problem, it would've been there since the start.
>>732947690Yeah, it was supposed to be a semi-good ending of them climbing out(or in this case, climbing down) from the coffin.
>>732945502I hard disagree. The coffin only got better with time because nemlei learned what her audience wanted in a game.If Tcoaal ended with episode 1 it would've almost been as much of a tragedy as ongezellig ending with the pilot.
>>732946519Well said. Time to make this thread fun.
>>732945502This game is genuinely one of the best pleb filters out there.
>>732946678Probably still in this semester.
>>732947917You should never compromise your vision for a coomer-brained audience.
>>732948349>visionobviously they didnt have one or they would not have capitulatedif they did compromise their story for money then the game isnt worth shit anyway
>>732946187uh it is?
>>732947917>>732948493>lure tons of people with of incest lewd edgy game polemic >change things after gathering public Giga retarded attitude.
Hmm I thought it's about son and mother
>>732947917I feel like she didn't change much. It's not like her previous games were fundamentally different in tone or writing compared to what she's doing now, either.It's smut written by a woman now and it was smut written by a woman before. It's great.
>>732948662The superior mod is. It removes annoying dumbass noisy prude sister bitch and adds smart, leveled head and prettier mother with a new story.
>>732948167I don't really get it. This game attracts a lot of people to talk about it with seething hatred or with their cocks in hand but none of them understand the game past chapter one. It's not even a difficult plot to understand yet there's a bunch of tranny youtube analysis videos that fail to understand basic foreshadowing
>dev had a vote of episodic or fully finish>retards vote episodic and what was supposed to be out years ago isn't anywhere near being doneWhy on earth would you trust an indie dev when they're not money starved? Has the millions of failed patreon & kickstarter games taught you nothing?
>>732948493Nemlei was a small time itch.io developer, and TCOAAL was their first game to hit it big, so she decided to capitalise on the 4chan/reddit audience and make further episodes for the lowest common denominator. That's why they sold out instantly to another company. You can't really blame them, they probably made more money then they ever dreamed of.
>>732949173Whats funny is if you read Nemlei's dev diaries, she herself knows episodic was a bad idea, she just did what the people paying said so.
>>732949054What's the difference? You can't start a relationship with either of them. There is that *one* dream sequence that lasts like 20 lines of text in the 2nd episode. In BOTH the mod and the original game. For some reason. Prude modder.
>>732948662No. The mother is a bitch that gets turned into soup
>>732945502Episode 2 was peak. All the demon realm puzzles that were actually just snooping around the siblings emotions and memories were Kino. Episode 3 was already too long, Andrew's character got stuffed into the box of "male love interest", and the whole story got recontextualized so much for dramatic effect it stopped making sense.Nemlei should just finish this story up while it's still good and make a sequel to Jack-in-the-Castle.
>>732949459based
>>732949054mod is just gooner material and not even a good oneit removes every context from the game
>>732949378Has two very kinky sex scenes>>732949459She's still less worse than TRASHley, that sees innocent family and children and plots to kill them in the very first second
Anons, which path of episode 2 does the current episode 3 cover? The path where Andy and Leyley don't get along or the one that they do? Or have both paths have an episode 3 now?
>>732949775well at least the trashy sister loves you in a weird way while the mother does care fuck all about you
>>732949721This is how episode 1 purists think about episodes 2 and 3.
>>732948349>shartyniggers still seething
All Ashley fans are trannies that self insert as Ashley and does ERP in /vg/ with other faggots self inserting as Andrew.They have a massive hate on Renee because the mother not only treated that cunt of a bitch the way she deserved but also because they hate having their favorite self insert shipping changed. They're also hostile towards JuliaXAndrew content for the same reason.tldr Renee haters are unironically trannies
>>732949867well the most important branching happens in the car where you decide if you cave in and let her call you andy or you step up, slap her and tell her that you are andrewbased on that you get along, or you grow a pair
>>732949893>uses Andrew like a damn parasite >cant stop dragging his life down>loveNice cope.
>>732949984imagine having unironical stockholm syndrom for the momby the way the dad did nothing wrong
>>732949893There's like one mindbroken retard who thinks Nemlei spited him personally for making Renee(who didn't even have a name in the second episode along with her husband) the sort of mother that would produce Ashley and Andrew.
>>732949991Is that from episode 3? I thought the divergence was whether you were hesitant in killing your parents in the basement scene, atleast that was the divergence point before episode 3 released.
>>732949867It's the path where they don't get along and you can kill her in multiple places. Except Nemlei tried to pull a fast one on us and it looks like both routes are the romance route.
>>732945502SEX
>>732946951No, the 'coffin' wasn't referring to the apartment.It was referring to the box that they locked Nina inside of.Her death is the defining moment that locked the siblings into who they are / who they become.It is the secret he trusts only with her whilst it is the emotional blackmail that she has over him.That's why it's the coffin of ANDY and LEYLEY not Andrew and Ashley; because it was from when they were children and still went by those names. Andrew wants to (mentally) get as far away from those days as possible, which is why he hates Ashley calling him Andy. It's a reminder. Ashley on the other hand looks back on that time with immense fondness and can't bare the thought of moving on.This is ultimately the main conflict of the story.
>>732949670This. 2 was the right direction as to how to expand on 1, which makes it all the more baffling how 3 ended up so bad.>>732949229She didn't sell out. That "other company" is just a protective LLC she co-owns.
>>732950119>by the way the dad did nothing wrongArguable.
>>732950119>hotter and prettier than the bitch>is a way better character >so better than in the mod Andrew isnt a literal pussy and actually has selfsteem because he doesn't have Ashley ruining his life 24/7Renee is totally a better character no matter how much Nemlei tries to retcon the story
>>732950235He literally does nothing. He's spineless as shit. That's the problem. Nemlei doesn't even care.
>>732950173ah yeah, there is one scene if you trust andy or don't with being alone with the parentsthat's a huge decision toobut for the outcome of what the game is currently at the Andy/Andrew decision is even more importantbesides finding all the extra stuff like the ring etc.
Did people actually play the game? Chapter 3 has been nothing but bickering and misery porn, and when they finally start to talk through their issues, Andrew goes ahead and gets himself groomed by a demon lord
>>732945502Just look at these retards arguing over Ashley vs the mother. There's zero sense in Renee and Andrew going together; they're just spouting their favourite incest fetish (mom/son). They don't care about any narrative, they just want to goon to their preferred fetish and thats the people episode 2 and 3 appeal to.
>makes olive branch instead of developing the main game because she seethes at people preferring the mother over her self insert character Absolute woman moment
>>732950204They literally call their apartment the coffin in episode 1. The box they locked Nina in was just hussy storage.And even so, Nina's case gets less and less relevant as the game goes on, to the point where you kind of have to wonder how come it's suddenly relevant again when they go into lockdown. That means no matter if you want to believe the "coffin" is Nina or the apartment, the title starts being less relevant as the game gets updated.
>>732950075option to subjugate and make Renee my bitch, please, modder.
>>732950532says the guy that likes to pretend being Ashley
>>732950306she is hoti give you thatbut besides that renee is in no shape or form a character you would get alongESPECIALLY as being her childdad is just a passive bottom that gets bossed aroundthats the only character renee would even consider touchingand thats the pointandrew having selfesteem and claiming his mother is just so extremly out of context/place that i can't take the mod seriousmod is still funbut way blown out of proportion for what it is
>>732950415Wait so is the Andy/Andrew dilemma in episode 3 and both are covered right now or if you pick one, the game ends because that half or episode 3 isn't done.
>>732950418That's exactly why game discussion died off. Chapter 3 had no focus and drove off all the rela players. The only ones left are secondaries who just want to jerk off to Ashley's and Renee's character designs.
Is this a normal relationship between mother and son?
>>732950591Already a thing since chapter 2. There's sub and dom routes for Andrew.
>>732945502Nobody should play games like this. Its obviously some bullshit made for gay retarded children. Go read a book if you want storytime
>>732950649it is in episode 3 and the one pick is open ended while the other one ends in absolute misery and has one endingthe only one thats finished afaik
>>732950638>but besides that renee is in no shape or form a character you would get alongYeah, sure. Like Ashley is very sociable, right? And not a total absolute moody bitch all the time.Everyone in the game is fucked up but at least some have brains to work on dynamics.
>>732950679Game discussion died off because it hasn't had an update in almost a year, we've had a thread up 24/7 for like a month when it released. And you'd better believe it was lore discussion wall-to-wall.
>Retards say people prefer Renee over Ashley>While Renee has 1/3 the art Ashley hasl m a o
>>732950798despite being an insuffurable little piece of shitshe is in no shape or form near Renee's level of being evilbitch lies and manipulates everytime she opens her mouthi mean andrew is beyond fuckedhe is between a rock and a hard place
Woah, Mama!
>>732945502Honestly yeah, I lost interest in the characters after the first game, now I don't care about the ending(s) or if they get killed or live to be pieces of shit for the rest of their lives.
>>732945502when's the next update coming out? It better be the whole game>b-bbut they indie they need timedoooon't care
>>732950679What is even there to talk about? Each chapter is a few hours long at most
>>732951007Two more weeks.
>>732950924>she is in no shape or form near Renee's level of being evilHer very first thought after seeing an innocent family in a picnic is "lets sacrifice them to satan"Eat shit and die.
>>7329455021 and 2 were perfect. 3 was meh for me, I even actively lie to my mom and say that the development stopped because I don't want to disappoint her with 3 since she loved the first two so much. Should have ended there. The puzzles were fucking atrocious too.
>>732951036aaaaaaah it's a fucking rpgmaker game how long can it take is she handdrawing everything out on paper then scanning aaaaaaa
>>732945502You have to treat it like the Star Wars sequels, Elder Scrolls Online, and Age of Sigmar. Just headcanon everything after episode 1 as non-canon.
>>732945502>This game peaked on episode 1Correct.>flanderized the story in episodes 2 and 3Wrong.As more content released, there came both more good and more bad. There are parts of chapter 2 and 3 that are great, but there are also parts of them that were meh or dropped the ball. The entirety of chapter 1 managed to be an A+, whereas the quality of everything else fluctuates. Getting to see the visit to the grandparents in chapter 3 adds a mountain of context to Andrew's character, and fleshes out why his life fell apart. On the flip side, a lot of the demon realm stuff was filler, and several of the dream sequences were a step backwards.Personally, I think that the biggest mistake of the game thus far, is that is has answered too many questions.The siblings were more interesting and unique when a lot of their behavior was up to interpretation. There was a lot of room for fans and the audience to question or analyze. Does Andrew actually find his sister attractive, or is his sense of personal space fucked up because of Ashley's behavior? Oh never mind, it turns out that he regularly spied on her when she was naked in the bathroom. Did Andrew feel guilt about murdering people to escape the apartment? Oh never mind, it turns out that he was glad he killed the wardens.Ultimately, the later chapters have been great overall, but they've had a couple of fumbles as well.
I feel like the dev had a bad mom situation, like really bad.
>>732951439I mean we are nearing the end of the story so It makes sense that we understand how Andrew and Ashley function at this point
>>732951439Flanderization is literally what you described about Andrew in episode 3
>she is in no shape or form near Renee's level of being evilDo Ashleyfags really?>kills a little girl because she was flirty with Andrew>demon can't stop saying how dark her soul is>sucks the life and joy out of Andrew>poison his head with evil ideas and negativism constantly >too selfish to listen to him >no regrets about sacrificing her own parents, even the spineless father>in fact she was the one that had the idea>makes sure to remove and sense of regret or good thoughts from Andrew's head>stabbed Renee's lifeless corpse because Andrew was still feeling regretful >keeps trying to sabotage his relationship with Julia >hates Julia a fucking lot even if Julia was always good to her, never did anything bad>first thing after seeing a family with kid is telling her brother to sacrifice them to demons>pushes Andrew into murdering the kid>game literally shows how Renee's soul is less darker than Ashley's>makes Andrew's life so bad he starts to listen to another demon Ashley is so evil even demons gets attracted to her soul.>b-but ReneeIs evil like many other characters but at least she was practically with a gun pointed at her head in a do or die situation that is "give up my infernal daughter that also ruined my son beyond salvation" or "die with them".
>>732951439>Personally, I think that the biggest mistake of the game thus far, is that is has answered too many questions.I would agree. I was malding about that when the Olive Branch route was first revealed and with the proper release of episode 3 things have only gotten worse.Sometimes finding answers is great, "BEST THING IN THE WORLD" is my favorite scene in the game, but a lot of the time it just kills the mystery. Bonus points if the answer is actually a bad one because the author wasn't thinking that far ahead when she posed the question.
>>732951056nice hair>>732951543Yeaaaaaaaaah, it happens. A lot of people who hate Renee often do, but they can't imagine that some people also find her attractive for reasons beyond the mothering. She's loyal for one, she's also intelligent and she's completely ride or die, willing to kill for (You).I don't like dumb girls so Ashley does nothing for me.
>>732947053The main gimmick of the game is watching two people in a terrible relationship actively make each other worse while being utter unable to do the sensible thing and just simply separate because they crave the other to such an extent that they make drug addicts look like fucking casuals. It then strings you along by providing brief glimpses of promise to make you believe that they could make their lives work or achieve some fragment of happiness, only for them to fall back into bad habits and make both themselves and their sibling more miserable because their problems are too deeply ingrained to be fixed by bandaids.
>>732952631Ashley is the one that makes things worse 95% of the times. Or 99%.
>>732952130will i take>the plague>choleraor>ebolagee that's a hard one
>>732952631There will be a happy ending. Trust the plan
>>732953163...happy ending with Renee.
>>732945502This entire game is just a Flowers in the Attic rip-off>Two siblings trapped in a building by parent(s)>Think about committing suicide by jumping off the balcony>Develop a co-dependent relationship>Incestuous undertone creeps in further and further>Have sex in the end>Future books/episodes (written by ghostwriter/company) alter the brother's attraction from something that develops on account of circumstance to something that was always there ie. perving on his sister in the bathroom.
>>732952828It doesn't matter. Hell, even Andrew eventually came to the same conclusion. Ashley wouldn't be able to do anything but constantly shit and piss herself in frustration if Andrew wasn't around to enable her and protect her from consequences. He's just as culpable to the ridiculous state of affairs as she is, and he's absolutely not a victim when all he can think about when he's not around Ashley is how he could be taking care of Ashley right now. Being a brother/husband/mother/father/bodyguard/tard-wrangler for Ashley isn't a duty, it's his favorite thing in the world to do.
>>732953627>Stockholm syndrome Tell me how as a man you find cool to see another man being slaved like this by a total bitch.
>>732951056Don't lie to your mom anon. Show her ep 3 and let her have her own opinion for it
>>732950119Dad probably should have stepped in and told Rennee she's really hot when taking care of the kids. They whole reason she's bitter towards her own kids is because they reduce the total amount of time she can spend getting railed by her husband.
>>732953364Oops, Andrew shouldn't have kissed his mother, now she's gregnant
>>732953823Why would I need to find it "cool?" It's a fictional story. Furthermore, it's a fictional story about terrible people being terrible. Do you only consume media featuring people you would be bros with?
>>732954719>Why would I need to find it "cool?" It's a fictional story.You consume things you dislike? You're mentally ill then. And probably like Ashley.
>>732954702Holy shit they kissed in sex
>>732952631>the main gimmick is miserable pornNo wonder some people prefer the mom mod. At least there Andrew isn't so miserable and actually has some confidence. He also can get the upper hand in the relationship.
>>732945502>OnRetard.
>>732953627Also true, but his attachment issues + ashley being his only REAL friend was also caused by her, she purposefully isolated him from others during their youth through her possessive psycho behaviour causing rumors to spread of him being a incestous freak (he is) with her ALSO holding accessory to a homicide over his head. He had no choice of being anything else but her little errand boy.Granted, he considered himself smarter than the other "peons" but he spent most of his childhood attaching himself to a dumbass. We'll never know if he could've found a kindred spirit elsewhere in school with all the time he wasted raising ashley.
>>732955670>only REAL friendI fucking chortle at Ashleyfags delusions.
>>732949893That's not fair.I have an 18 year old son and have zero paternal instincts. I don't feel anything for him because he was unwanted.
>>732955838Well, not counting the mom route, of course. Renee is a WAY better friend/lover/mother for him.
>>732955934What's the color of your hand?
>>732955972No really. No way in hell Ashley id a friend. She literally lives as a parasite. She uses Andrew. All the time.Plus, Julia was always good for Andrew and very kind. In a way she still is his friend. Not on reach anymore however because he's stuck in some hell.
>Seeing people actually arguing over psycho sister vs neglectful motherThese people don't care about the characters. They prefer the one who they find sexier and the one who matches their favourite fetish. Secondaries, one and all.
