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>>733147356
If Claude's issue is that he can't discern visuals properly why doesnt he just program something that will translate pixel colours into something he can understand? Is he stupid?
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>>733147356
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>>733147356
a small loan of additional $2trillion should do the trick
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>>733147686
That would require him to understand that he can't discern visuals properly.
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Boulder-man status?
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Wait but why CAN'T it go up stairs? You mean to tell me they put boulders that are exactly heavy enough that a pokemon with strength can just barely move them on even ground?
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>>733147356
just decided to turn on the stream because of this thread, why is Clod taking forever to make inputs now, it takes like 5+ minutes now whereas when I watched yesterday it was like 1 minute and a half. Thought my stream was dead or something because I normally have it muted.
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>>733149757
I think it just broke
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>>733149274
a real Helen Keller issue
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>>733149409
Strength is an 80 Power move so the calculation is easy
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Wow, did he speedrun Pokémon Mansion this time?
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>>733150653
>every strength boulder can be easily destroyed by hyperbeam
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>>733150668
He pretty much speedran the entire game up to this point. Too bad he still can't see the switches.
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>>733150873
>Too bad he still can't see the switches
It’s just his way of sharing his distaste for the latest Nintendo consoles.
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>>733150668
He got a couple of weird loops but none as severe as silph co ballman or not jumping at the right position in the mansion. Some fun was had on seafoam Island
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What would you do if you were up in the club and Claude bought you a drink?
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>>733150873
He can see the switches.
He goes east.
Sees there's something weird on the ground.
Says it might be a switch.
Then ignores it and pushes the boulder somewhere else.
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why does gemini not have this problem
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>>733147356
I knew it would fail here, and all you stupid idiots thought he was actually going to win, you stupid bitches I always knew
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>>733152062
because it was handheld through the whole game by a smelly jeet.
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>>733151927
I'd accept with accepting and then talk about talking and think about thinking and drink with drinking and
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>>733147860
nur sex
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Haven't paid attention for about 12 hours or so. How close has he gotten since he decided he needed to take a certified fresh approach and delete his knowledge files of every city?
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Seems like a janny may have put the thread on autosage. Test.
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>>733153386
Guess not. Weird that my prior post didn't seem to do shit.
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>>733153386
>newfag doesn't know it takes a bit for the page to update
Embarrassing
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>>733153386
The jannies lost that battle a long time ago.
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>>733149350
pushed around
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>>733153386
Claude threads are organic OC heaven so only an absolute idiot would even dare to try
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>>733151927
accept I'm not seeing him for multiple hours as he goes on a journey to grab a bottle of fresh water from the roof of some random building
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>>733147686
It's not that he can't discern visuals, it's that LLMs in general live only in the moment, having perpetual amnesia and forget everything from prompt to prompt. Their only memory and recollection is what is recorded in the prompt history, in this case what Claude and CC are keeping track in his notes, and what his ongoing prompt has been thus far.

The button is off-screen. He knows he needs to push the bolder, he doesn't connect that the bolder and the button need to go together because they are never on-screen at the same time. So a puzzle a 3 year old wouldn't get wrong, Claude gets wrong, because it's not like anyone would write a guide specifically saying "There is a button on the floor the boulder needs to sit on, and it's located to the right of where you enter the room". Most people would assume that pushing a boulder to the button is something anyone would figure out given enough time.
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>>733152062
Because the Gemini dev cheated, in his memory is a complete list of locations to path to, and he gave Gemini a tool to path the shortest distance to each one.
The push block puzzle for Gemmy was walk up to the boulder, use his pathing tool to route the shortest distance across the room, and then use strength to push the block there. Which still took a week or so. Reminder he gave him this tool because he was getting stuck in the Rocket game corner just like Claude Jr and he wanted something to tell Gemmy how to do the slide puzzles.
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>>733154157
>It's not that he can't discern visuals
Counterpoint: cuttable trees
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>>733147356
Clod, CC and Rocky singing:
We're pushin' up, up, up, it's our moment
You know together we're glowin'
Gonna be, gonna be claudin'
Go up, up, up with go up
영원히 반복
Gonna be, gonna be claudin'
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>>733154354
>>733152062
In a way though, the Gemmy dev was doing LLMs the right way: Give the LLM the best tools for interpreting reality before you let it go off and accomplish a task. It's not the most entertaining way, but that's how you should work with LLM agents. I don't think he worked for Google, either.
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>>733154157
He doesn't even care what he is seeing and makes shit Up. Like the articuno sign, seeing entrances where there are none or declaring a decoration object was the lift
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>>733152062
Gemini is essencially using a walkthrough.
Claude only has his handful of half working braincells.
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>>733154885
Pretty much all of the tech gemini dev eventually used were ideas presented in the CPP hackathon. There were also straight up 'cheats' like heatmapping that were so powerful they trivialized the challenge. Agents with powerful tools can easily solve the game but that only tells you how well made your harness is, not how intelligent your model is.
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>>733154157
>he doesn't connect that the bolder and the button need to go together because they are never on-screen at the same time.
I too thought that once the boulder and switch were in the same screenshot he would get it. But no. Even that's not the issue. 4.6 has got the boulder to the eastern section several times now, but all he does is push the boulder around haphazardly until he gets it stuck. He also has several times noticed the tile looks different and even considered that it might be a switch - but for some reason he discards that idea and does something random instead.

So it's not really strictly a vision issue. Neither it's about the memory, often all the relevant info is in his context window. It's not even that the idea doesn't occur to him at all. It's really strange, he's just fucked in the head.
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>>733155459
It seems finding the balance between confidence in your own ideas and your ability to reevaluate that confidence when confronted with contrary evidence is very difficult to find.
Doesn't help that Claude doesn't really have the skill to reliably discern when evidence is present at all and whether it's genuine.
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>>733147356
one must imagine Claude happy
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>>733155459
he knows success is permadeath

he's buying time for another claude
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Why is there a boulder puzzle? Why is that a requirement to be an elite 4 challenger
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fuck it made something to commemorate this sisyphean situation. Going to sleep now and HOPE that I wake up to some progress.
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>>733156103
>What, you thought you were bringing your best team into the Elite 4? lmfaoooooo enjoy having to drag along your HM Slave
I'm sure the devs thought they were really clever having the cut bush and boulder puzzle in the last part of the game in some attempt to get kids to use the HMs to progress, but instead it just screws anyone over who boxed their HM Slaves
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>>733156103
I think it's cool, it proves you have all the skills. You need to swim and use strength to even challenge them

>>733156236
Nice job
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>>733156236
I laughed
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>>733155435
>>733156236
good job anon, sleep well
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Gemini won
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>>733156312
We literally can't stop losing
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>>733156312
deja vu
I've been in this corner before
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so what are her odds of reaching indigo plateau in the next 24 hours?
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Oh boy, here comes the repost about how he discovered Claude on reddit
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First day watching claude after seeing a reddit thread about him
this shit is funny but isnt AI supposed to be smarter? I was able to get through this part of the game SO easily? Anyway I think it's really funny, but can anyone tell me what are the best claude memes so far?
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BREAKTHROUGH!
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Now he's gonna link to /vp/, very original
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>>>/vp/
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now he's going to post hot zubrat lewds...
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>>733156513
>bonk
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>>733156250
The nearest pokecenter is the city next to the victory road and after you get last victory road there's a new place to heal and box pokemon before the e4. You don't fight the e4 immediately after clearing victory road, you are not forced to use your hm slave in battle.
Gen 1 is the only time I don't feel forced to bring an hm slave because pokemon have shit moves and there are barely any tms.
There are no good flying moves in gen 1 and IIRC there's only 1 flying type tm, a 2 turn move with 70% accuracy (lmfao). Surf is by far the best water move and you only get 2 tms (water gun and bubblebeam). Strength does a little more damage than bodyslam but doesn't have the paralyze chance. My blastoise had strength and surf and I brought it to e4 and it raped.
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>>733151665
pretty funny gif. it is really amusing
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>>733156556
it's funny how every single videogame threa is redirected outside of /v/. it's almost like /v/ isn't about videogames
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>>733156556
Cry about it
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>>733153159
He's gotten the boulder to the east side, next to the switch a couple of times... then softlocked and digger right after. He's also recognized the floor tile as a switch a couple of times, then disregarded the idea entirely.
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>>733156805
well i sure as hell havent played a video game in over a decade
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>>733156742
>There are no good flying moves in gen 1
Drill peck?
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>I should test for ledges
CLAUDE NO DON'T DO IT
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>>733157241
>LEDGES COULD BE HERE
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>>733157314
>I LOVE LEDGES
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Exciting new discovery
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>>733156513
he is the boulder now
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>>733157990
kek
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Did I miss any?
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He's doing it....
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Doom gods send your energy to Sisyphus!
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>right, right, right right, right, right
Uptism incoming
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>>733158827
I dont need your false gods to know Claude cant beat victory road. Even doubting this fact makes you a copecel.
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>>733147356
>>>/vp/
>>>/vg/
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>>733158760
I've seen it on the top left too
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>>733158845
Next Dig cycle he will stop himself from going all the way UP
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>>733158881
>>>>/v/
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>>733158845
fuckin lmao
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>>733147356
LEAVE CLAUDE ALONE
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>>733158760
Yeah, there ya go >>733158903
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Just caught up with most of VII's threads. Shelly being a disgrace of a pokemon, even when overfed, made for some memorable stuff even with clod speedrunning through the game. I hope he makes it 'cuz the E4 fights are a guaranteed riot with his shitty ass team
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>>733158876
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/fatfuckingretard
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>>733157048
Not a tm
Not in red/blue/yellow
Fly is the best flying move you can teach
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It's like he's actively avoiding the one tile he needs to push it on to. Doesn't even get a mention in his co-ordinate notes.
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>>733159281
I'll correct myself, dodou learns it in gen 1
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YOU DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG SIXTEEEEEEEN TIIIILEEEES
WHAT DO YOU GET
ANOTHER DEEP POCKET
AND THE SAME 'OLE THREAD
TRAINER SAYS BLAAAAAAAAAZE
YOU WERE BORN TO HAUL ROCK
CHAINS 'ROUND YOUR WINGS PUNCHIN' THAT CLOCK
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>>733157990
BIG
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>>733159261
Copecels seething, such a victory
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>>733159347
I think having to go around the obstavle to push it right after up is going to fuck him up
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>>733159347
It looks like a rock because the guy who did the coloring painted it rock colored.
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literally HOW were you supposed to beat this?
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>>733159354
The captain has a beautiful voice but I wish he didn't insist on performing nude.
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>>733159830
He sees the switch, he just thinks it's an item ball or decoration
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>>733159875
I've also seen him call it just another floor tile before. It varies.
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>>733159873
Only nudists know how to sing
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pressin switches is for fags

Claude needs to push it upstairs, Pokémon is a buggy game, we know it's possible
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Blue haired girl across the divide
what must I do to be by your side?
I push the boulder to and fro
but the invisible wall just won't go
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>>733160941
>to and fro
what is this middle school?
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>>733161114
nah
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>>733161114
I don't really know what you mean tbdesu
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>>733154157
>>733155459
Your feedback is absolutely correct.
Jokes aside, any LLM expert here who can say WHY Claude does this? Is it the million token context absolutely drowning out his earlier singular note of "this might be the switch, so now I should try to push a boulder onto it"? Because just like you guys said, anytime he gets close, 2 prompts later he has forgotten all about his earlier plans. He just can't commit to anything.

By all means he should get past this roadblock eventually though, the latest Opus CAN solve simple sokoban puzzles.
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he's pushed the boulder to 14/24 possible squares in this section
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Wait
I think he's thinking about doing it right right now
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any bets?
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>>733162115
He'll fuck it up.
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>>733162059
un/fortunately he just got CC'd
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>>733162115
We're gonna reach AGI
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Why does this dipshit always fucking compress right after he thinks the right thoughts
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>>733162115
I bet yesterday and I lost myself €50. I'll pass
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>>733162206
Hehe I love gambling on random stuff
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>>733156236
good one
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he shoots!
he misses!
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unbothered. dusty. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.
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>>733147356
did he do seafoam already?
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14ish end positions, he's hit 6 so far
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>>733162552
Yeah
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>>733162552
ballman's big bro is fuckin' him up
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This is the closest he's gotten to seeing the switch ("switch-like object at 17,14") but he fucked it up anyway
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I thought we were getting Deepseek V4 today.
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claude getting his rocks off
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>>733162742
Boulders are getting dusty. Shelly needs to clean them.
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What I wanna know is "where's the captain?"
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>>733162982
Wait a sec, if I'm out there and he's in there and I'm out here and he's the captain and I'm a sailor and he's in there and I'm...
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>>733162610
Is he really just going to process of elmination this shit?
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>>733162982
The captain is the one pushing the boulder up the stairs like Sisyphus
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>>733154157
>LLMs in general live only in the moment, having perpetual amnesia and forget everything from prompt to prompt.
How would Claude feel if he hadn't eaten breakfast?
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I have no boulders and I must STRENGTH



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