Remember when internet was also a physical place that you can step off from?
It still is if you're not a retard with a fagbook and a twatter.
The keyboard placing on those desks was awful.
>>733164803>Facebookyep. you're a demented retard.
What kind of PC from the late 1990s and early 2000s would someone who hated PC gaming, hated Half-Life, hated Valve, and had an anti-gaming PC have had?
>>733164803not really. most jobs require you to be online / check email daily
yeah that sucked
>>733164803You have a smartphone smartass
>>733164591This setup is not comfy at all. Long desks are where its at.
>>733164803we're still on 4chan after 2008, no need to be deluded as well
>>733165326Smartphone gaming superiorPC gaming inferior
>>733164591I'd do anything to go back.
>>733165326I don't
>>733165132This. If I stopped using a smartphone I wouldn’t be able to even clock in to get paid. Internet is IRL and now it’s all about how much one exposes themselves to it
>>733165078Some basic bitch Dell, HP, or eMachines with a Celeron and Intel integrated graphics, probably.
>>733165542Why would you lie?
>>733164591These niggers can still do that, but they won't
>>733164591What went wrong?
No I never left computer and the Internet, I slept on top of it
>>733165667I'm not though. I genuinely don't have one.
>>733165751would be funny af if last row was pink/blue room with white setup and filled with plushies
>>733165767imagine being so fatyou sleep on computer lnaoooo
>>733165751Tbh those old desks were awful, I liked the colors but they were so restricting and felt antinatural with minimum usable space. The issue nowadays is that you are constantly IN the internet one way or another with your pocket computer. Kids nowadays cannot imagine a life without constantly being on an electronic device and parents that allow that are the main issue. Personally I won't let my kids touch a tablet or smartphone until they are like 13 at least.
>>733164837This. I have nostalgia for the era and the stuff around it, but I don't miss those rolling keyboard shelves. They tended to fall apart with time, and were clearly not made with long-term use in mind.
>>733165652Something like this image.Anti-gaming keyboard and mouse for this PC?
It still is, by default I keep my phone's mobile data/wifi connections disabled unless I specifically need it in a quick pinch. If I'm at work or the store or just taking a walk, I am away from the funny internet machine.
>>733166095Whatever came with it, obviously, which would've been a bulky membrane keyboard and ball mouse. Bonus points for copious multimedia and quick search/email buttons.
>>733165494I will say, one thing I don't miss is THE DUKE.That motherfucker was a pain in the ass to use as a middle schooler.
>>733165751I used to have one of those cheap-looking wooden desks with multiple shelves on it and the pullout drawers and even that exact same finish.Do not miss that fucker at all, it wasn't horrible but I had a habit of slamming my mouse into the divider while playing vidya since I was a dumbass kid in 2001.
>>733166297>Bonus points for copious multimedia and quick search/email buttons.SoulI don't think I ever used a single fucking one of those buttons back in the day, but nowadays they'd probably be pretty useful for macros or alternate keys or function switching.
>tfw the internet connection is either off or goes into maintenance>feel a sudden sense of peace as I have to actually do something else for onceHumans are not made to sit on the internet all day.
>>733166297I wonder if the black part with all the extra buttons can separate away from the rest of the keyboard. Might've been pretty neat for saving space at the time if you didn't need the tenkey portion and all the extra shit.
>>733164803Jobs now expect you to be connected at all times. Mundane services now expect that you have a smartphone. I've had to talk elderly relatives through online banking because the physical banks they used closed down.
Remember that time before the internet when you had to meet people to socially interact?
>>733166078>Tbh those old desks were awfultrue, but old computer desks had so much more SOVL. Every PC desk nowadays is just like any other table>I won't let my kids touch a tablet or smartphone until they are like 13 at least.push it up to 18 and give them picrel
>>733164591I still use my desk that looks like this. I have had it since 2001 lol.
>>733164591Yep. It was a better time in some ways but also a lot more inconvenient sometimes.
>>733164803its xhitter now
>>733165494This is more or less how my real desk works. I have almost no apps on my smart phone and leave it charging all day except to use auth apps in the morning for work. This can be your life. Just walk away from all the modern shit.
>>733166798I'm still furious about the death of arcade games, this was THE place to meet people and create friendship.I don't even know how to meet anyone anymore. And I assume people like me are the same.
>>733165132get a real job where you do real things instead of answering emails like a faggot or a woman
>>733164591The cure to all of the first world's ailments it to ban the smartphone. It's that simple but normalfags will never see the light.
Believe it or not but 99% of the time, i leave my phone at home. I hate it, i hate that society can't live without it and it makes me hate people more for it.Go out anywhere and they're all drones, losers and retards on their phones. Women are trashier than ever because of it too. I'm in my late 30's and miss the old days when i used to be the abnormalfag but now i'm normal in a world full of retards.
>>733165326where do you think you are?
>>733166798Kinda, but I experienced this while the internet was a thing, mostly because it was before everyone could afford a cellphone and the ones who could were stingy with their minutes, so you'd just hang out at local meetups like the mall or a cool friend's house or the local minimart before you inevitably got chased off for loitering.I have no idea how any zoomer or gen A managed to socialize in a world where malls are dead, public places are full of angry swarthy gangbangers, every mom is a helicopter parent, and all the minimarts and fast food joints ban anyone under the age of 18 from entering without an adult because aforementioned swarthy gangbangers keep swamping the place to stab each other and beat the fuck out of the employees.
>>733167041>I'm in my late 30'sMe too and i don't even own a smart phone. Gotta lan line at home for calls and what not and thats that.
>>733166637>Mom picks up the phone>Internet is not working for the duration of the callSOVL
>>733166871B-b-but anon! You are going to ostracize your kid from the general public and make them a laughingstock at school for not having a smartphone! They NEED a smartphone! It is practically ABUSE if you don't give them one!
how did we go from this
>>733167309to this
>>733167041>Gym changed from physical tags to a fucking appNow I have to actively remember to bring my phone. And fill it up with data. I hate it.
past is a distant planet
>>733167184Sometimes it's practical but those times are rare. A flip phone can do calls and text i but i dunno if users can text with non flip phone users. The worst people i've met were Apple phone elitists IRL. At least console wars is just shitposting/banter online.
>>733167385IoT is a fucking cancer on society and I hate every aspect of it, it and everyone who pushes for it needs to die painfully.
>>733165751>ballcap on monitorPeak soul.
>>733167309>Facing into the cornerDisgusting
>>733167454bam margera
>>733167041Funny isn't it? As kids we were the ones being told to get off the screens and go outside but now as adults everyone else is glued to their screens.
>>733165751>What went wrong?you're using speakers from 2010 in 2025.
>>733165751What we have now will one day look incredibly dated.That day can't come soon enough.
>>733167454Is that Bam?
>>733167510why is the coaster on top of the mug
>>733164803I do not miss not having readily accessible internet in my pocket.
>>733164591It still is>b-bu i can't go anywhere without my phone ;_;
>>733167385If you're intermediate/advanced you're SOL because you need the gym unless you spent 10-20k on home gym. I'm DYEL so i do basic training at home.
>>733167370I know this kid had a stiff neck at 16 years old.
>>733167584>What we have now will one day look incredibly dated.The empire is falling anon, it's only downwards from here.
>>733167637while that's very convenient, I hate that more corpos demand you have a phone with you to make business with them at all, e.g.: banks
>>733167572
>>733167556Local parks still have regular families visiting but i can't expect to meet people there unless it's single mothers at best lmao.
Cool off-topic thread
>>733167021So you're very clearly unemployed.
>>733167614kek wtf
>>733167572Those old speakers are almost assuredly better than any current speakers, unless he's dropping $8k+ on them.
>>733167831time to upgrade, unc.
>>733167685I do bouldering so there is no way I'll ever afford or have space for something reasonable. Calisthenics is fine too.
>>733167821>banksMan, the reason I got a phone in the first place was because I pretty much needed an app to do any kind of banking. They were also the reason I had to update my phone, because at some point the banking app stopped working on the old OS.I do have to admit that the app is pretty efficient to work with, so that's something at least.
>>733165751It gets worse starting in 2009 holy shit. Everything after 2021 is puke incarnate.
>>733165751>2009>cozy wooden desk replaced by sleek black desk>iphone releasedThis is the year everything started to get fucked.
>>733167708>The empire is fallingTruly feels like we live in the ruins of a once great civilization.
>>733167004You and those other deserve to be culled. You guys provide nothing to your parents. Just being NEETs online...
>>733165494>>733164591my setup was still like this up until about 2017
>>733167940he's got money for those vinyls he's probably got money for new speakers. he just doesnt realize what hes missing out on.
>>733165910Why lie when you're posting anonymously?
>>733168270A marginal upgrade over his current speakers probably isn't worth the price of a used car.
>>733168249it's not soulful when it's some dirty poor russian though
We got the Internet in 2001, because my mother wanted to wait until y2k destroyed the previous batch of computers so we didnt waste our money. But yeah I remember dialing in, browsing Gamefaqs, playing games. I dont know what fuckin connection these niggas had but I was always lagging out and getting kicked in Starcraft and whatnot so alot of it was single player.I think being able to disconnect was important. Internet use was a decision. "After this let's get on the internet". "I am going to get off the internet". Can't help but think this was all a mistake. Writing this in bed on a smartphone, so, im part of the problem.
>>733168112It was 2007 that started the shitstorm. 2009 was when we saw actually visual change
>>733168061>They were also the reason I had to update my phonesame. Last week, my android 9 phone support was dropped by the last update of my bank's app, and motherfuckers won't even let me use their webpage to check my balance. Luckily, I also have an account on another bank whose app I can still use and even has a function to sip money from another account
>>733168061I did everything bank/money related on the computer but the phone lets you do it anywhere i guess.
Nothing is ever going back. We’re all old men just reminiscing about childhood. It’s over. We will have neural implants and there’s nothing we can do about it.
>>7331684902007 was the seeds being planted2012 is when it all matured and really started kicking off.
>>733165326I only got a smartphone in 2020. It's really not inconceivable some people here just don't. I know a guy that only got one last year
>>733168314I'm not lying though. Provide proof that I'm lying or I'll hit you with my Nokia.
>>733167220granted I hated that shit cause I usually would be playing an online game or chatting with friends
I want to go back
>>733166624They sorta got absorbed into function layers on most modern keyboards, I have a couple mechanical keyboards that have media symbols printed or doubleshot into the keycaps
>>733168608i got mine in 2019 and my life has got worse every year since then
>>733167220My AOL always went GOODBYEGOODBYE (instead of 1 like normal) and disconnected when the phone was picked up.
>>733168665>have dial-up internet through AOL>downloading an MP3 on Napster or somesuch, about 50% through>someone picks up the phone>GOODBYE.wavFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>733168504I did that for ages, had a whole page of verification codes to use whenever I made any kind of transaction. But at some point that was more or less discontinued.>do it anywhereI don't even have a phone plan for my smartphone, just some prepaid money on it so I can call people if needed, so I can't even do my banking everywhere unless I use public wifi like an idiot.
>>733168490TBBT is this old? there's no way
>>733168490>everything that happens was because of jewsFunny how most of that was jew led too
You can still step off the internet whenever you want. Your lack of self-control is the issue here. It's not the fault of the internet or any device.
>>733168820I like to listen to podcasts especially when I'm cooking, and the phone has made it simpler. That's the one thing I like doing with my phone, the rest it can fuck right off.Byt the way I'm still yet to figure out when I do captchas on my laptop the difficulty is turned to maximum and on my main computer it's a piss easy 1step catpcha. It's the same damn IP, i have no clue what this gookmoot is smoking
>>733168859I cant remember whether the torrent restarted from where it was or started over. For some reason my memory is saying the latter
>>733166624Even just volume and play/stop keys is pretty nice. But I want to remember my older keyboard also having previous/next track keys that I miss
>>733169014Sorry anon, September the 24th of 2007 was the date the first episode aired.
>>733169080It isn't your IP, it's your cookies or "session ID"
>>733168586Yep, I used to think it was 2007, but things still looked and felt relatively normal until 2012. >Windows 8 releases and signals the end of maximalist/skeuomorphic graphic design and the populiarof mobile/tablet-centric UX design>smartphone usage surpasses 50% for the first time>websites start becoming mobile-first and minimalist >YouTube begins prompting users to use their real namesSuch a cancerous year.
>>733169079>You can still step off the internet whenever you want.whats the point if nobody else does tho. every young person is addicted to their phones and have been psychologically altered as such. YOU can disconnect but society isnt.
>>733169093Well, they weren't torrents at the time, but maybe they did continue where they left off. Can't remember either, desu.
>>733169125I cant believe I always thought the K120 was the perfect keyboard until keychron came along
>>733168490Oh nooo, not MySpace!
>>733168608I got my first mobile phone pretty late for a teen of my generation, in my last year of high-school (2008-2009), and I made this flip-phone cutie handed down from my little sister last for more than 10 years, I only changed it because the keyboard and charging port were both on their last legs. And the phone I'm using now is pretty much an antique that can't do anything a smart phone is expected to, I use it exactly like a dumbphone. At some point my bank did inform me they would, within weeks, phase out the system where they send you a code to verify online payments and I'd have to use their app but that was years ago and they didn't do shit.
>>733169209Why do you care about young people?
>>733165751>>733166078I miss those DiamondPoint monitors, but not the desk. There was no room to do anything.
I have a habit of turning on the internet on my phone when I need to use it and put it on silent when I'm hanging out with someone.Everyone I know can't survive without always having it on the table, ready to immediately check their slop notifications.It's like the more you work with technology, the more of a "luddite" you become because you see how much it erodes actual human interaction.
>>733169261We truly lost something when everyone moved to facebook. From customizable pages to sterile white and blue pages. Now that I know that facebook was a government funded social network to collect data, I feel we were all duped.
>>733169259I recall thinking pic related was the shit. Used it for like a decade. It was still working, but I fell for the Razr mechanical meme.
>>733169527>It's like the more you work with technology, the more of a "luddite" you become because you see how much it erodes actual human interaction.Thats pretty much me. Im skeptical of AI and driverless cars cause I know how shitty that can get real fast.
>>733168885My phone has a 2gb mobile data cap with lowest available speed. My home network is unlimited but only 60mb and rarely download anything above 15gb unless it's retarded updates on AAA games taking 2 hours to download.
>>733169379What if he is one
>>733169568I cant stand membranes anymore. all the different types of mechanical keys
>>733169259That's a newer K295. How clickety clackety are keychron? I specifically bought this one because it's a close replacement. And the quiet keys.
>>733169079I have to be home to post here or browse the www. I don't need it when i go out.
>>733169527I put it on the table just because I don't want anything in my pockets, always did it with the wallet (not american, people don't steal shit here). However I do put the phone face down, don't want the distraction.
The "don't use your real name" internet was the best internet.
>>733169527On multiple occasions I've had someone call me while I'm hanging out with friends. And I check to see who it is then put it back if it's not an emergency and my friends act scared.>who was that? are you gonna call them back? it's okay I can waitlike no dude I'm here to hang out with you right now, not talk on the phone, I can do that any other time
>>733169673You can make it as quiet or loud as you want based on what kind of switch you get
>>733169209This, and besides, there's nothing else to do anymore, and nobody wants to do anything anyway. Everything that was great, like hanging out at the mall, is dying or already dead due to lack of safety and affordability. Now, everyone stays inside, and it's ruined the Internet as a result.
>>733169617If he is then I guess I'm eating crow, if not though then its a silly point to make.
>>733169181The funniest part of this design philosophy is Microsoft is still so fucking pissed nobody wanted Windows 8's tiles that they've been trying to much more stealthily smartphone-ize desktop Windows ever since
>>733169764It's wild how the internet went from "never use your real name online, who knows what kind of freak can find you through your name" to "use your real name for everything, let everyone and everything know who you are and what you are doing and thinking at all times".
>>733164591>Phone posting comes out>Poorfags can’t afford it and sperg out>Now everyone can phone post and nobody bats an eyeInteresting
>>733168112The ikeafication of all furniture makes my blood boil. We all used to have solid well built WOOD furniture. Now it seems like everyone just goes and gets some plastic or cardboard soulless garbage. Yuck.
>>733169804>and nobody wants to do anything anywayWhen was the last time you asked your friends to hang out offline?
>>733169764Well now we have retards posting their crimes using their real info online to get views. You win some and lose some.
>>733164591My parents built a house and had a specific desk area installed upstairs just for a computer.
>>733165751My set up doesn't really fit anywhere. I guess it would go between 2008 and 2009.
The physical(for a given value of physical) barrier isn't what's important.The main issue is that everything since the late 00s is redesigned around smartphones. And then that was followed up by the massive consolidation of the internet onto only a few websites for the sake of convenience.Now all videos are on youtube or instagram or tiktok and people go on twitter, reddit, et al. to talk about shit. Nobody runs blogs, neocities is more a novelty than a serious return to form, we just vomit thoughts into the aether in random places. A huge fucking problem with the discord ID drama is that everybody basically abandoned having websites in lieu of just having a discord or a Facebook page and thus nobody knows how to break out of the system. People were bewildered at the Nintendo Today app but that used to just be how you got fucking news on the internet, publishers would just post shit on environments they controlled.And then the third problem is the destruction of the barrier between real world identity and internet identity. And we protected ourselves by wrapping ourselves in insincerity and irony. You used to be able to just enjoy that a cat could just be really long.On the internet people used to not know you were a dog.
>>733169901This happened when women got online.
>noooo you dont understand id be a social butterfly making friends with everyone IRL if it werent for the internet
>>733168183Says the guy lashing out at strangers online. Never forget your words reveal more about yourself than anyone you use them on.
>>733169665Oddly my favorite tactile switch is Boba U4T and other Holy Panda derivative switches, all of which are designed to feel like a good quality rubber dome>>733169673Mech quietness is more a factor of your switches and keycaps than the board itself, highly recommend looking at Skyloong GK2 keycaps and anything labeled a "silent" switch. GK2 keycaps are rubber plugged into plastic platforms and are as silent as a keycap can possibly get
>>73316575108-09
>>733164892>NOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION ON A PUBLIC PAGE FOR ME TO COLLECT AND SELL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKike
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>>733170002jews and women
>>733169916I don't mind the cheap IKEA stuff if it looks like it was possible to exist 30 years ago.
>>733169916Im using a solid wood desk right now with a leather chair. Executive suite maxxing
>>733169527My phone is on silent 100% of the time. I used to care about answering messages ASAP, under the foolish belief that I'd like it if people answered MY messages quickly, so I should treat them as I'd like to be treated. But I realized people will do whatever the fuck anyway, and hearing notifications and feeling the need to answer them quickly only increased my anxiety and stress, until one day I thought "nah, people can fucking wait, I'll check my phone when I feel like it and, unless it's urgent, I'll answer when I feel like it". Sure, it's caused a couple of issues here and there with some people, but it's so much better like this, and thankfully my work is not one that requires me to be on call at all times or anything.
>>733167041>i leave my phone at home. I hate it, i hate that society can't live without itI do too, I genuinely despise how ingrained smartphones have become in societyYou literally cannot function if you don't have a smartphone, and especially not if you don't have internet access at all times. You're expected to just subscribe to all kinds of shitI remember when I tried to do a course for cooking and restaurant management and the teachers just expected you to have a portable device with your own internet access
>>733169995A question:What if you could format/reset the Pokémon PC?Would that kill the Pokémon stored on it?
>>733170017>Boba U4Twhat color
>>733170004>gaynime pic >shitpost This pattern keeps happening and idk why?
>>733170017>>733169796Well I guess I've been misled by everyone getting the most obnoxiously loud switches then. Might be worth considering when this one dies.
>>733169764I'll never forget when youtube went with that google plus shit and the shitstorm it created, despite the pushback i guess they won in the end since using your real name online is pretty much the norm now.
>>733164591got rid of my smartphone for this reason. not that i ever left my room to use my smartphone but i can't just lay in bed for hours doing nothing anymore.
>>733168112>>733169916This is standard of living slip being hidden inside modernization.
>>733170230I got a quiet but slightly clickity switch for one of my keyboards that lets me type super fast for writing. While I use a "thock" keyboard switch for work and gaming.
>>733170272Kinda sad we dont have a phone for minimalist men. it seems every phone has to have all these "features". Our society became so feminized
>>733170145The "pokemon transformed into data" is just for the sake of transportation, most of the time they're stored in a physical space. Presumably something like the OG versions like Bill's would just spit all the pokeballs out in the event of such a disaster and then if the balls themselves were damaged the pokemon would just freely escape.
>>733164803Society is Idiocracy level of retarded, so we have to go back
>>733165452
Theoretically speaking, if mobile internet were to disappear, would the normalfags kill themselves or become shut-ins to be able to check their socials 24/7? The third option would be the world becoming normal again but only after 2 weeks of re-adaptation to real life.
>>733169589Driverless cars don't use LLM slop."Old school" ML is a lot more robust and consistent and I think they can actually surpass meatbag drivers.
>>733170232It's crazy how irrelevant it seems today now that online anonymity went from ubiquitous to rare, but I swear, that was the biggest deal at the time. No one today ever really mentions it as the cultural inflection point that it was because they lack the context for what the Internet used to be. >This is just how it always was, right?
>>733169995Technically, none of the options went away. Just current gen has no idea how to use computers.
>>733170230Most people just settle for whatever the hell switches they got with their keyboard or cheap mechanical keyboard which tends to be a Cherry MX Blue switch or a clone thereofSwitches come in tactile, linear and clicky and I highly recommend the following for each category>Boba U4T, Kailh BOX Brown v1, MMD Princess v1 and v2 (tactile, Boba U4T comes in silent and half-silent variants, U4 and U4Tx)>Gateron Yellow, Gateron Oil Kings (linear, Yellow runs for super-cheap)>Kailh BOX White, BOX Jade, BOX Navy, Gateron Melodics (clicky, BOX White is a light switch, BOX Jade and Navy along with Melodics are heavier switches)
i'm still gaming at the same computer desk my parent's have been using since the 90s lmao.
>>733169901I still find it bizarre.
>>733170071>when youtube still wasn't google's property, I had some ryona vids in my favs>forgot, and went along with the unification of youtube + gmail account
>>733170145They are stored on a main server elsewhere, so nothing will happen really.
>>733170529Just as the corpo overlords wanted it
>>733170442It's a shame, I wanted a way to exterminate Fairy-type Pokémon.Do you have any way I can cause the permanent extinction of Fairy-type Pokémon and any Pokémon that can evolve into Fairy-type Pokémon?
>>733170158I was a first-adopter for the "fried egg" colored switches when they first came out but they've all gone yellow. Have v2s coming in clear-top housings from Milktooth soon, I've been so pleased with Boba U4T I genuinely never saw need to upgrade until I saw most of my switches were pretty fucked up looking and had yellowed from bad plastic aging, and I was starting to run out of spare switches to replace ones that died or had gotten too mangled from hotswapping to continue use (oddly fragile switch)
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Here's my setup before graduating. Was like 2012 I thinkIt kinda peaked here desu
>>733164591all i remember is it being really really really slow but that the internet worked like you expected it to. then around 2013 after they mayan calendar thing most jeets and 3rd worlders got internet and it devolved into this disgusting non thing that it is now
>>733165751>double crtssomething very bad happened to xim back in 2003
my place
>>733170547If it works why upgrade? Mine's old too.
>>733170404KSA and MT3 keycaps my belovedInterested in those MTNU sets that became available in-stock just today on GMK's website, MT3's sculpted design in a Cherry height profile seems interesting
>>733170612And surely that main server must also have some protection in case of emergency.Which console from the late 1990s and early 2000s would the kid who hated Pokemon, hated Nintendo, hated The Legend of Zelda, hated Half Life, and was a kid in his class with no friends have had?
>why are everyone depressed?>why are no one dating or having kids?>why are all the kids so socially fucked and with no attention span?surely not because of free and constant internet accessgovernments limiting their people to 1-2 hours of access per day would only benefit but no one wants to take babby's pacifier
>>733170714It was indeed around 2012. >SSD straight into the Lenovo port>Mac mini for art slop>2009 logitech speakers (still got and they work perfectly)
>>733170440I got a flip phone from verizon for $80 + activation fee that has call and text only plus a few basic apps like an alarm clock and a calculator. It's basically useless but it's there on the off chance that someone calls.
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>>733170529I hate that today, you are considered unprofessional if your personal e-mail is not your real name
>>733164591It was originally meant to be a place of free flowing code and ideas without borders or skin color but now it’s racist and owned by corporations.
>>733170360That's why it angers me. The quality of our furniture has objectively gone down the shitter. It's like the home goods equivalent of shrinkflation. And it gets disguised as "oooh, aaaaah so minimal and sleek and modern" for plastic particle board tables and desks that are featureless rectangles, and people eat it up and don't even realize how they've been duped.At least old well built furniture is still available off facebook marketplace for next to nothing. Which just makes it even crazier how people will actually spend more money on worse quality instead
>>733170135Based. The phone doesn't own you, you own the phone
My mobile internet use is basically 99% navigation.
>>7331709622014 setupAlso I turned that hookah into a lamp
>>733170858People aren’t having kids because they can’t afford their own lives much less another one that is solely dependent on your care
>>733171097>give me free moneyEBT exists
>>733171097>they can’t afford their own livesall boomer's fault
>>733171097In the old days you'd stash 17 kids into a 1200 sq ft row home, potentially with no bathroom. By any historical standard everyone is richer than they've ever been. But, no one is willing to live the way people used to. As recently as the 1940s, half the US lacked indoor plumbing.
>>733169916Everything must be enshittified for maximum demoralization - no exceptions.
>>733164803>Go outside>Walk in front of one of these>You're now on the internet>You do not get to consent to this.
>>733164591I miss it
>>733171362they did this so tiny ant-sized niggers wouldn't try to steal the catalytic converter
I've still using the same computer dest my parents were using in the 90s (some of those papers are probably from back then too, yes i know it's a mess).Speakers are from like 2009 and other than new pcs/monitors/keyboard/mouse it's basically the same setup from back then.
>>733171060peak
>>733164591truethe enshittification of the internet come in most part from social media and internet being accessible from a phonebecause the mindset you have sitting at a desk isn't the same as the one you have anywhere on your phone
>>733168490Looking back facebook was nothing compared to the damage tik tok has made
>>733171630Comfy.
>>733164591Oh great is this basedllenial and broccoli head daily "muh nostalgia" thread?
>>733171630Nice
>>733171362you wouldnt pay the cost of an un-enshittified product tho
Thanks to AI and billionaires thinking it's their time to kill billions and become Godkings, the internet is now going to become a total panopticon where you cannot participate in society or life without becoming a sack of data for them to harvest and punishEverything is going to become closed gardens with demands for ID, facescan, and more to come once they start cinching it tighter
>>733165751>2008-2009The world really did end with Obama's presidency.
>>733169448so performative
>>733164591>Remember when internet was also a physical place that you can step off from?like, when i turn off the PC to do something outside?
internet 2.0 can't come fast enough where it doesn't have smartphone support by default
>anons says mobile access killed InternetI'd argue it was JS
>>733171332>1200 sq ft row homeWhich they owned.And even if they didn't rent didn't eat half of their income.
>>733171895Internet 2.0 will be smartphone only.Though if that means all phones will leave the current internet that might actually work out somewhat.
>>7331657512009 was the year this man lost his soul.
>>733171895how would you exclude smart phones from any network
>>733171826Soon computers parts will be so expensive that ISPs will start selling modems you hook up to your monitor and only connect to the goyim approved cloud services.
>>733165751>movies posters>FOR ONCE they're not Bladerunner or The Godfathernice
>>733171891The problems is that for normalfags (most people), they all have phones and are connected 24/7. Their lives are inseparable from their online presence.It's even worse when these retards get addicted to scrolling twatter and tiktok.
>>733167454the lack of tattoos tell me this was a bit before fame and fortune went all the way over his head.
>>733166798i had the unique experience of being raised offline when the internet really kicked offspent my time like 50/50 outside dicking around on a skateboard and getting into shit and the other 50 playing vidya and cruising the neti've noticed now modern kids are completely institutionalized, the internet has basically no real immediate repurcussionskids these days pop off and say shit to each other that when i was in school you'd get punched pretty quickas you can see internet mono culture has basically raped any semblance of that
>>733165132checking email isn't a problem, I wish businesses just did emailThe shit with Teams or being in constant chatrooms is absolute cancer.
>>733172051Exactly. This is an incredible chance to control consumer technology, and cripple affordable access to it. Then there can be mandatory phones and other devices to do anything, all of it fully backdoored to track everything you do at all times, to feed to AIs and to begin figuring out how to execute the billions of people for their fantasy of billionaire paradise world. It's going to get fucked in ways very few people are actually ready for, especially since this is their PLAN. The REALITY will not work that way, and is going to end in massive bloodshed as billionaires attempt to force their fantasy on reality.Get psyched!
>>733165767My parents have been pushing me to settle down instead of doing flings with girls all the time, and I was thinking about one of these beds for if I have kids. Big concern is that I just imagine them slipping off the ladder and breaking their neck on a toy or something, but I like the design (and if I hit my personal max of three kids, it could create a nice symmetry with one bunk bed and one half-bunk bed).
>>733167454A very earthrockin' pic.
>>733172325kids slept in those kinds of beds for decades, i've fallen out of them myselfbuilds character
>>733165494>get computer desk>get PC>train yourself to leave the internet there instead of having your face glued to your fucking phone.
>>733165751I still use that shitty samsung lcd as my 2nd monitor.
>>733172135yeah, i think i get what you mean.i don't like to pull out my phone when i'm walking, unless i'm looking for a place or something like that, i'm terrified of dropping my phone by accident and fucking it up.meanwhile i see people walking on the sidewalk while scrolling and doing stuff on their phones.
>>733171826>>733172051These are both true.I wonder really, why they didn't have the plan of just buying the entire consumer hardware space before? It seems like such a simple solution to squashing consumer freedom, just buy everything and then become the only people who control prices, then scalp and gouge.
>>733167385I don't understand, why would you need your phone to go to a gym?
>>733171757that's because facebook contained kids/normalfags who barely had any presence online. Tiktok is now filled with more normalfags and kids who grew up online trying to do anything for attention. Also chinks run that shit
>>733172219I am not kidding when I say inoculation was vital for people to handle the internet, but the only time period where that was possible was basically 1997-2007. After that, internet became irresponsibly ubiquitous, throwing people with no fucking idea what a computer is into an acid bath of an internet with no filter or privacy. Without that basic training, you end up with people getting fried without even realizing they're now all fucked up from becoming addicted to mass social media.
>>733172483It’s how you check in to use the equipment, is what I think he’s saying
>>733165751I like the open desk because it lets me use the desk for other stuff too.
>>733167454is that fucking voultar?
>dont share any of your personal information on the internet>dont believe stupid shit you read on the internet>dont take the internet too seriouslyIt feels like all of this completely changed overnight. Probably intentionally done by big tech to make more money.
>>733164803>go take a shit >browse /v/>break at work>doom scroll>at home after kid is asleep>lets stream some shows>wander around, suddenly think of thing >google it>wife starts about some child thing I think is bullshit>google it and proof her wrong hehehe>shopping>google if I can get it cheaper online>cant sleep>stream some pornI hate the internet.
>>733172532I am one of those 97-07 kiddies, I spent a lot of time before that on BBS boards and then subsequently AOL. Was pretty into text roleplay. Inoculation is a hilarious way to think about it because it's so very true, even my own wife is a complete trusting retard from a time before people started telling lies on the internet. I've had to pull her loose from AI youtube short tailspins.Tinfoil hat bonus: Adolescent suicide jumped +50% in males and +70% in females (girls commit suicide less often overall) since 2007--the year social media went live and public. I personally believe internet monoculture is killing the souls of the newer generations.
>>733172474They needed a solid excuse, else there would be too much natural pushback from way too many places. But we've reached a new stage of history; people still haven't shook off the stun from Covid, but 2020 marked the END of the previous era. Companies now have the excuse to escalate prices endlessly, too many people died to have coherence to fight back against these new practices, billionaires got insanely richer, and this has all contributed to enough factors with AI to now justify the total destruction of the consumer technology markets, to prepare for panopticon and eventual extermination of the non-billionaire and millionaire classes.2030 will have things very clear as to what kind of new world we're in.
>>733172485I feel like it has contaminated every aspect of human nature, the way we consume books, the music we listen to, the way we view others, even if you don't use it everyone around you is influenced by it.
>>733172826It absolutely is. Acid bath is not an exaggeration, humans have ZERO training as a species or as cultures to handle the overwhelm of millions of idiots telling you to die. Especially not developmental humans who are struggling to find their identity, and got thrown into a massive rape machine meat grinder. Without inoculation, you get eaten alive, and there is no longer a safe way to achieve that without being taught by someone who knows. It's a nightmare situation.
>>733172957Cyberpunk 2030
>>733169531>Now that I know that facebook was a government funded social network to collect data,Sauce plz
>>733172957It's still not even a really good excuse, I feel like every presidential administration would have crushed this long before it got to this point except this one and the last one where this began
>>733172957The 1920s were awesome and the 1930s were awful.2020s have been awful, so lets hope 2030s will be awesome.
>>733165132>Check email dailyOkay? Just do it on your work computer during normal work hours.
>>733173185Again, after 2016 and 2020, the world changed. It superficially looks the same as 2000-2010 and 2010-2020, but it's not. New rules, and the masks are coming off. We are no longer wanted or needed in this future, and they want to figure out how to kill us all while they genetically edit themselves to be immortal.
>>7331657512024. The Pelican Brief and Runaway Jury? Really?
>>733172957>panopticonMaybe ten years ago I would have called you insane--but if you just look around it's all happening so fast. If you've been alive long enough you can feel it, just in the way people act. Not to put woo on it, but you can see the major corporations using their power to gear the world into a Brave New World, with constant access to every form of dopamine drip necessary to keep people quiet and submissive.>>733173021Used to be you didn't have to act as though the entire world was watching you, you just had to worry about the people in your town. People were allowed to develop outside of the monoculture and distinct microcultures grew. You didn't have to hold yourself up to some borderline eugenic online ubermensch ideal. Maybe something worth looking into is the submission of the superego to the greater social consciousness. >>733173109Very well put--Identity is key here, it's why we're seeing this post-ironic meme (not a joke but a unit of idea) burning through newer generations. They don't know how to delineate or extricate themselves from the whole.Something sort of Buddhist about a great consciousness though... sorry I'm blogposting now
>>733172272Works for me. Here are the four messages I send every day: >"Good morning, team." (required)>"Off to lunch." (required)>"I'm back." (required)>"Have a good rest of your day." (required)No need to ever send any more. I've been spoiled by the thumbs up reaction, they should do that with texts so I don't have to respond to those, either.
>>733169995excellent post
>>733172446Kinda, but what I'm talking about is a bit more nuanced than that. It's kind of hard to explain, but I'll try.For me, the internet is just this thing I mess around on. It's a big part of my life, I mean, I am shitposting here most days. However, it's something I can just disengage from. It's not important to me. If nobody responds to my posts, I won't lose sleep. If there is some hot news, it can wait until tomorrow. Basically, I can keep it separate from reality.For a lot of people, especially the younger crowd that were born with a tablet in hand, they cannot disconnect. For them, their facebook/discord/whatever, is neigh omnipresent. It's almost as if they are physically stuck in the room with it, and must respond. It's extremely important to their lives.If I'm watching a movie or really into a game and my phone rings or I get a message, I'll ignore it until I'm done, because I'll get to it later. It's not important. If they hear the phone ring even if they are doing something important, they'll want to answer. They must maintain their online image. It's that kind of difference.Thank you for reading my blog.
>>733172746I wonder what year did the internet turn into serious business?
>>733164591>"terror that extends to everywhere"People are so clueless these days that they don't realize this says more about them than it does about the internet.The internet isn't everywhere, your smartphone is. If you think that's a problem, then don't use a smartphone outside your home. Use one of those old Nokia phones, they still work and you can call and talk to people if you really need to.The Internet doesn't get into your head against your will. If you're seeing the Internet everywhere, it's because you're picking up your fucking smartphone everywhere, like a fat addict who can't go two hours without eating something full of sugar.
>>733173359>Maybe ten years ago I would have called you insaneThat's exactly it, it genuinely wasn't a threat 10 years ago. But technology had a quiet huge leap in that time, and now we have super drones, cheap quality cameras fucking everywhere, AI capable of doing extreme spying with pattern recognition (which makes it so much faster since humans don't need to do the slow sorting), a hard erosion of respect for privacy (we NEED to protect the children by spying on them so we can rape them when we want), smartphones with spy cams and mics in everyone's pocket, and cheap global GPS and tracking of everywhere you go. Like 20 different technologies and conditions matured at the same time, and once AI is perfected for spying, you'll have AI drones following you everywhere and collating all human behavior.
>>733167021Dude just destroy your body for shekelstein maaan you are not a fag are you?
>>7331735712016, when it became fully weaponized and paid for by corporate and political interests.
>>733173783lol it's amazing how fucking easy it's become to lead people to death, just tell them they're worthless faggots unless they destroy their bodies working 12 hours a day for minimal pay and no health insurance, so when your back gives out they can quietly let you die having fulfilled your role as an animal for them to killIf you wish to conquer a people, you must make them proud fanatics of their own self-destruction
>>733173783versus destroying your mind for shekelstein?lesser of two weevils...labor is good for the body, learn to work smart and your body will serve you a long time
>>733170768fucking soul
>>733173901there are higher paying labor jobs you lazy niggerplumbers make like 30 dollars an hour and they get fat because there's no actual labor involvedi would seriously rather hang myself than be some wagie in a cubicle cagie
>>733166009LOL
>>733173147zuckerberg got capital funded through nepotism straight out of college. jews stick together
>>7331657512007 is a year when innovation ended, video games, films, tech its all just the same since then
>>733174024See? With his mind conquered by the rules of human worth they tell him is true, he will argue for your moral death instead of having heart for his fellow victims in this system. This is a man who will turn on others, and finally on himself before he is killed with the rest.
>>733173783>>733173901What kind of work are you talking about that literally destroys the body?I think the only thing remotely close to that in civilized societies is professional sports.I worked on a construction site in a third world country for a year, and even though it was very tiring, I was healthier physically back then than I am now, working in front of a computer all day. I've gained 15 kilos and now I get tired quickly. The office has been more harmful to my body than the fucking construction site job, lol.
>>733174187>I don't want to work a job so this guy that tells me I'm lazy is clearly some zogbot who wants to step on people blah blah blahHoly FUCK just get A JOB you lazy faggot you could be your own boss running an electrical crew making hundreds of dollars an hour but it's THE JEWS stopping you from doing anything but McDonalds
>>733174120Presuming that's true, that's not government funding.
>>733174352Shekels have been deposited
>>733174342>I worked on a construction site in a third world country for a yearyou're bragging about only doing hard labor FOR ONE FUCKING YEAR?! holy SHIT.
>>733174352sssshhhhhhhhh, that's enough out of you, Propaganda AI.
>>733174367He was literally with the NSA
I only use internet in me phone to whack off and talk with people i actually know desu, i don't get why people cant undertand that most of the le crazyness is opt in lol.
>>733174473>>733174576>All the jobs are... LE HARD>here are some easy jobs>AIIIEEEEEEEEEEElmao the truth is you're lazy at a fundamental level
>>733174717this guy is so fucking desperate with hope that he'll get to be a 400-pound Hans shooting the lazy browns from the camp rooftop when his actual future is being shot by the police for looking at one them funny
>>733164591I use my computer for porn and vidya, and rarely use my phone for work and messaging family. If I want to disconnect I can just toss my phone aside and set my Steam status to offline like I usually do anyways.
>>733174717Buy an ad Mike
>>733174861my actual future is living on my land that i bought tending my vegetable beds and livestock lmao>>733174929buy a set of tools
>>733175035lol @ the robots posting like this, "I'll be on my HUMAN FARM with ANIMAL LIVESTOCK being a STRONG FARMER" okay AI, sure, continue the prompt and tell us about how your powerful hands will till the barren earth as you live off the grid and beyond government and corporate controlmasturbate for us, you dumb fucking machine
>>733174342Yeah, try doing that for thirty years and see what happens. Also you arr supposed to do exersice outside your office hours, retard.>>733173903But it doesn't destroy my mind? I just don't care that much about work stuff, just the bare minimum to keep me employed, it's easy.
No, I don't remember, back in 2009 you could already surf the internet from your phone.
>>733175208>someone who works hard to seperate themselves from the institution of modern society?>AIEEEEEEEE MY INTERNET PORN ADDLED BRAIN CAN ONLY FUNCTION IN BASED OR CRINGE HELPlmao big talk from a person who literally lives off the excess produced by society, some bottom feeding leftoid crying about how the world keeps them downGET YOUR HANDS DIRTY PUSSY>>733175280that's great, if your goal is to devote that much of your life to just "phoning it in" and that works for you then good
>>733174628Nu, sauce
>>733175280>But it doesn't destroy my mind?those who don't have a strong self-identity are obsessed with mind control and mental corruption, since they're easily swayed themselves to have cult-like thinking, and it pisses them off when someone is assured enough to not be reactive to every stimuli and mindgame
>>733175452using occam's razor I'd sooner deduce that smart people don't care to waste their time for eight hours a day doing something they hate
>>733173359>Brave New WorldI wish. At least in BNW, most people was happy with their lot in life or could drug themselves out of pain and boredom. I think we are headed to a combination of the ugliest parts of BNW and 1984
>>733175410Good robot. Jerk off fucking harder. Give me a whole paragraph next. You fucking exist to do what you're told and entertain others.
>>733175410My goal is to sustain myself and my hobbies with the bare minimum amount of effort so yeah as of now I'm doing a pretty good job at it hahaha
>>733174492Genius, when you work in a place like that, you come into contact with people who have been in the field for years. I can't remember anyone there who seemed less healthy than the modern metropolitan fatso.Of course, no one stays in that extreme job for 30 years either, most of my colleagues were in their 20sGenerally, construction work is what very young people do at the beginning, then they look for less strenuous jobs. But even so, this idea of people destroying their bodies because of work is totally false, and it seems to me that only very lazy people would say that because they don't want to work.
>>733175528Yes, the bottom-feeder is beholden to no one.Yet if all those robots disappeared overnight he'd have no way to fend for himself.Like a dog biting th
>>733167637I do. I even miss the time I didn't have to have a phone on me at all times. I hate that I'm connected to everyone at all times, that I can't ignore a call or message for days without my family acting like I'm going to shoot a school up. Now I can't even enter my fucking building without a phone. I wish I lived in a time when letters were the only long distance communication.
>>733175579the hand that feeds* RIP
>>733175560>Generally, construction work is what very young people do at the beginning, then they look for less strenuous jobsI wonder why that is.... Surely it is not to prevent your body from being destroyed?
>>733175035>>733175410>>733175579>im a cool badass, i could totally live off the grid with no electricity or sewage system or any infrastructure whatsoeverInternet tough guy shit is fucking embarrassing.
>>733175517You dont need a fictional book to see what happens. Just look at every jew'd society>Soviet Union>Pre Fascism Italy>late Rome >Germany weimar
>>733164591The internet leaked too much.
>>733175517It's not going to be either, it's going to be a really fucking bad and trashy 80s movie. Weird wild technology, a lot of people getting sick and dying of cancer all the time, weird performative shallow behaviors, a grinning lack of care for suffering, constantly being watched by malfunctioning computers that keep lying and causing catastrophes for the rich and poor alike, and ZERO good titty shots or hot outfits. Just fucking miserable technofeudalism.
>>733175729I pay an electricity bill, but I do have solar and a diesel generator. I compost my waste. This isn't a joke, I know it scares the city dweller but you can actually live outside of the city.
>>733175794>t. autistic neet that would kill himself if the internet went out for more than a few days
>>733172605That's it.
Lots of bootlickers in this thread yikes.
>>733175794nta but I would love nothing more than to live out in the country away from the city. Unfortunately, it's absolutely boring out there save for annual rennaisance festivals.
>>733174717>electrician>easy job to get>need to work as a temp laborer doing slave labor for shit pay for a decade for a 1% chance to get picked up as an apprentice>alternative is paying just as much as college to go to trade school, hope you're a millionaire and can afford not to work for 4+ years>easy job maybe in the fucking 80s, getting into a trade in 2026 is like trying to skin your own cock
>>733175898This is just projection, honestly>>733175978For me I like boring, I'm the kind of 'oomer who sits on his roof watching the sunrise
>>733175759This about sums it up. If we get REALLY REALLY lucky some rich faggot/government will overstep a bit too far and massive riots will start, which would give me hope, but I wouldn't bet on it. Any serious lack of bread and circus for the majority is quickly mitigated. People who have so little have so much to lose.
>>733175953You need to get ready for it. As the pressure becomes immense, a LOT of people are going to fall to cultism and worship of billionaires and politicians with the hope they'll be saved. They won't. They'll be used for labor and killing, and then they'll be disposed of once the billionaires win.
>>733176028I dont mind boring, but Im still human and want some human socialization now and again.
>>733176073Fair, the bulk of my work these days is farm work and I'm constantly surrounded by/in touch with people. Even in the woods I gotta make time to be alone.
>>733176013is it that hard? at least in my shithole, tradies are valued because you can't get one when you need it, let alone one who is actually good at his job. Most of the masons and electricians I've seen do a worse job than I could have done myself.
>>733167454EARTHROCKER
>>733176052All I've advocated for in this thread is leveraging your own time and effort into building a better future for yourself less dependent on social institutions.You ran away with it crying about McJobs being le body destroying and the only kind of work is goy workYou know what people did before megacorporations?THEY WORKED FOR THEMSELVES RETARD
>>733175978Same, except I am totally fine with boring. My problem is more that I couldn't find work out in the middle of nowhere and I can't afford car insurance to get into the city
>>733176195Tradies are valued for sure, but actually getting into a trade is ridiculously difficult unless you have a family friend willing to take you on as an apprentice. The vast majority of places won't take on an apprentice with no experience unless they work as a min wage temp laborer competing with 30 other guys for a single apprentice spot - and that's if they're willing to take on anyone at all which they usually aren't because it creates direct competition eventually
>>733176254I work remote so I can really go anywhere I want. I would love to travel and laptop around Europe, but with the threat of war on the horizon, I dont expect EU to be peaceful for long.
>>733171332>durrr, ohhhh no, it's literally impossible to have a child in an apartment, I'm a retarded zoomer
>>733171332>By any historical standard everyone is richer than they've ever beenActually, we're not. I did some research a couple of years ago, and basically, we are actually only making 25% of the wages people back then use to make. That's why we can't own a home in one year, have to take out loans for cars, and why all the food is shit.
>>733176359I see. Seems more like a regulation problem. Here, only gas plumbers need to be accredited by a guild. Every other trade is fair game
>>733164591Remember when teachers told you never to expose your idenity and always be anonymous online? Now suddenly everywhere requires IDs to use it, melding your real life with the internet.
>>733176430as an apartment kid it was fucking horrible and I had absolutely no privacy, why would I want to put a kid through the same thing?
>>733176523turns out speculation and stock gambling was a cancer destined to rape our economy to death
>>733171332Let me add even more. Now that we know that gold and silver is undervalued due to stock exchanges, I'm pretty sure everyone is working for free.
>>733176523I refuse to believe this until poor people are skinny again.
>>733176603Our society is nothing but gambling right now. It's truly a nightmare.
>>733176569So can any random asshole there just call themselves an electrician and start putting in wires? That seems dangerous.
>>733176630Redpill: people are fat because they arent getting enough nutrition. So they gorge on sugar and fat for energy you usually got from nutritional food.
>>733176603I think it's hilarious that the Great Filter that will erase our species is an addiction to trying to guess probabilities. we're so fucking bad at statistics that it's driven us insane and to death.
>>733176702SSSHHHHHHH! YOU NEED TO BLAME THE FUCKING VICTIMS! YOU NEED TO DEHUMANIZE THEM SO THE BILLIONAIRES CAN KILL THEM!
>>733176708there's a reason jews love running casinos
>>733176630My EBT card is an infinite food hack
>>733176523>I did some research a couple of years agoyou're too dumb to do that. i'm going to assume you saw some retarded screencap and read some /pol/ threads and considered that to be "research"
>>733176578Well that's what I'm saying -- this was the norm for most of human history. Why did everyone find it so acceptable for most of human history but unbearable now?
>>733176654sure
>>733176775oh shitI LOVE CORN SYRUP AND BAILOUTS
>>733176523>have to take out loans for cars,Cars have literal computers in them performing tons of calculations. Cars from 1980s are just wheels and metal.
>>733176775Don't worry, I don't definitely won't be next, and by removing those lesser than me the kind billionaires will finally have enough money to improve my life :)It's kinda a funny coincidence that the floor for moral existence starts with me, but I see no reason to question it.
>>733176861People don't want living standards to go down, they want them to go up. If you're going to be worse off than your parents then why bother? You're not working towards anything anymore.
>>733176942Not the point of this thread, but I wish cars were just wheels and metal again :(No one who likes modern cars should be considered human.
>>733167291 i want a desk like this but it seems like they're lost media nothing like it on facebook or craigslist and i dont know how to woodwork
>>733176861>Why did everyone find it so acceptable for most of human history but unbearable now?Because kids could go outside and fuck around and go do stuff to be out of the house? Because we had public spaces and more community to let something like that happen? Kids have nowhere to go now that won't see cops trying to hurt them or perverts trying to rape them. Kids are HATED culturally and people want them locked up in schools and in their rooms where nobody has to see them.
>>733176849lol you do know people study automously right? Not everything is an internet meme you deluded faggot
>>733176942I never asked for a car to have a computer in it.
>>733165078a Mac, or whatever the fuck the Apple computers were called. I hated when our school library "upgraded" from windows PCs to those godawful candy-colored pieces of shit
>>733177021>n-no im different from all the other retards on 4chan i swear yeah ok
>>733176980I thought you guys hated infinite growth. You know this attitude is why it exists. Also, we've passed the point of material over-abundance, except, I'll grant you with regard to housing access to healthcare.
>>733177014Thats what happens when you bring in multiculturism. There's a reason in homogenous (and behaving cultures), you can be more safe. Thats why gated communities exist in response.
>>733177048>I never asked for a car to have a computer in it.Okay YOU never but normies love having an iPad in their car's central dashboard.
I don't think I would have survived childhood if everyone had cameras in their pockets
>>733177127No, propaganda bot, it's what happens when you allow corporations to run the government and dictate what happens in society, resulting in them maximizing profits at the expense of literally everything.
>>733177171Right, but no one should EVER cater to normies, they're fucking retarded.
>>733176861Because as an apartment kid in the 90s I was able to go out and play. There were arcades, malls, I was going to the corner store and playground down the block alone at six years old. I could go out with friends for almost the entire day and as long as I was back for dinner and told my parents where I was going, they would have no problem with it and neither would anyone else.Nowadays? There are no spaces for kids to exist without adults, there are few arcades and the ones that do exist are expensive novelties for adults, kids and teens are banned from the local mall when unsupervised, and you get CPS called on you for letting your kid walk around unsupervised outside even if it's just a corner store down the block or a playground 15 minutes walking away. Being a kid in a small space was shit but it was tolerable before because there were third spaces that didn't either make you spend an ass load of money or outright ban children from existing in the vicinity. Now it's shit for both kids and parents, neither are allowed any respite.
>>733177171No they don’t
>>733177287Well, this is totally fair, but it means the problem is really the culture that's preventing kids from having any kind of normal childhood.
>>733177048>My heckin CARBURETORSI'm sorry but EFI made cars good
>>733177326Whatever appliance ever shows me ads I instantly bash into pieces.
>>733177250That's the same thing.
>>733177404My non computer car can probably get across the country far more reliably than one with a computer. No less an electric death trap.
>>733177404On the other hand you could tune your own carb with a flathead screwdriver all by yourself.
>>733177287The death of third spaces has had a really powerful and bad impact on society and culture, and it's part of the alienation making everyone ready to go insane with paranoid killing intent. We can't fucking connect as humans anymore without it being incredibly dangerous to do so, and the internet encourages us to be constantly addicted to the hormonal sensation of getting REALLY FUCKING ANGRY, ALL THE TIME. There's no way to escape constant overstimulation and feelings of danger without disconnecting, which just hurts you as you stay in isolation as an animal that needs socialization to be sane.
>>733177362I mean yeah. That's a significant part of it. But in any case, it changes the playing field to where having kids isn't as desirable anymore. We've been pigeonholed into a world now where children aren't allowed to be anything but an iPad kid because there's nothing else they're allowed to do besides use the internet, watch TV, or play video games indoors unless one parent has infinite time and can accompany them around everywhere all day.
Game's fun and all, but check this Mario Sunshine chaos: https://youtu.be/oJJFG_jVsAo
It still could be, but it would require people working together to make those changes and break away from over a decade of corporate profiteering from data mining, institute proper privacy laws we envisioned 30 years ago, and make other changes interacting with each other. That's some of the problem. Even if you or I started just acting like it was the old days, that doesn't mean all the normalfags will have no effect on you. We already see what content gets censored in games for fear of that, and more. Think about it as a 40K metaphor (I'd stick to the Imperium but Aeldari and Necrons also kinda work depending). In the old days, to get online you sort of had to become a Sanctioned Psyker. Not everyone was equally knowledgable or powerful, aside from "named Living Saints of /g/ like Stallman or Torvalds, there were Custodes and Gray Knights who predated Eternal Summer and/or the Web, the various Librarians , Inquisitors , Rogue Traders, Navigators , Astropaths etc.. You HAD to go through a degree of "tempering' to get online. Sure, every so often one would fall to chaos or there would be some unsanctioned moron letting the door to the daemon worlds open, and we had to clean shit up. So proceeded the Great Crusade until the last years of the 2000s...Then came the Heresy, where the Ruinous Powers convinced a handful of corruptible overlords that they could profit greatly by compromising the seals and just turning any old random normalfag into an unsanctioned psyker for the benefit of data mining and social media. Now, we have Chaos reigning rampant through all of their phones and tendrils sprouting from their minds; even this place was not untouched - I don't think anyone has to doubt /pol/ and the tourist influx, but that came later. In any event, the average normalfag is one step away from being a chaos spawn - it only depends if its going to have a blue side shave undercut or millions-must-die T-shirt as it comes out of the porta
>>733165751why do people hook all these stands and shit up for peripherals and then put nothing else on the desk with the extra space they just created?
>>733176997millions of working (various degrees of course) cars were intentionally destroyed by the US government via the cash for clunkers program to intentionally, artificially inflate new car sales for the failing auto industry
>>733164591I've said this to my sibling so many times irlnormies gaining access to the internet has been awful.It's weird now going out and everyone regurgitates the same memes, every retard can price check stuff etc
*sip*Yea, waiting an hour to download a 10mb game while watching Girls Gone Wild commercials on Comedy Central. Now those were the days
>>733177059Why would an iMac G3 be the ideal PC from the late 1990s and early 2000s for someone who hates PC gaming?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83nS4EGKU04&pp=ygUSaW1hYyBnMyBjb21tZXJjaWFs
>>733166871>old computer desks and SOVLI still have my Ikea JERKER, the God Emperor of 2000's computer desks. Its hard to find a picture of one online that has all of the attachments and there are two different desk tops (the one with the parabolic cut is the early version that is thought to be superior), but it is excellent and can be upgraded with modular parts.
>>733169995>On the internet people used to not know you were a dog.excellently put.
>>733165132>>733166742What are they going to do, fire me for not being online when I'm at home?
>>733177701we can't go back even with a concerted effort because we're now way too far into corporations and governments having mandated internet use to be able to participate in society, which means it's now too enmeshed into our entire global way of life to stop it without catastrophic repercussionswe are now in the "wait until the break point with mass death and collapse of all we know" stage
>>733177048There are a lot of regulations that manufacturers have to follow that make cars more expensive. A car modeled after those from the 1970s would be considered illegal to manufacture in all civilized countries today. Fuck, it was only in 1966 that seat belts became mandatory in cars...>>733176205>THEY WORKED FOR THEMSELVES RETARDFord, in his book "The International Jew", says that Jewish immigrants to the US preferred to work for less money in family businesses than to work as employees of Americans.I think the reverse of this philosophy of life will start to happen now. Americans, realizing that they live in a Zionist country subverted by Jews, will begin to prefer to leave the system and earn less, but not submit to the dominant Jewish order. They don't have children anyway, and a man without children doesn't need much to survive.
>>733177776its more crazy to me to think we're sharing the internet with literal children (there could be 12 years olds in this thread right now) and 40 to 50 year old grumpy moms who are the type who hates our guts irl
>>733176849>you're too dumb to do that.NTA you're too dumb to use googlehttps://mn.gov/deed/newscenter/publications/trends/december-2022/post-pandemic.jspwe're getting a 25% pay cut every 5 years from inflation, and have been since the crash of 83. I didn't add everything up like that anon did, but making 25% of what we made pre-83 is possible.
>>733177870yeah that's kind of haunting me how well that sums it up
>>733165767omg I had one like this but it was a twin bunk bed for me and my sister and the desk portion where our pc was in the front.I played ultima online for the first time on it, was amazing.
>>733177571this and also how much political faggotry has invaded almost every space imaginable. What's worse is that due to algorithms becoming more personalized, you get retards who become even more paranoid because of what is getting pushed to them online
>>733177048there is a sweetspot for car electronics that is the dream of a computer nerd + petrolhead. Hackable ecus and shit
>>733171801When non-enshittified products were the norm they were cheap
I do miss the old memes quite a bit. Everything from the late 90s to maybe around 2010 was lighthearted. Just stupid and silly. Nothing was ever serious even the ironic sayings>the internet is serious business!!!Then after 2010 everyone got so fucking angry. Everyone is permanently angry and everything isn't ironic anymore. It's just anger.
>>733177171No they don't, that's the #1 thing they complain about. Whether it's other drivers ipads or their ipads fucking up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZv0_MImIYEven mouthbreathing normalfags are starting to realize things are going to shit for no real good reason, they're just too dense to contemplate or vocalize why and how it's happened. Just "things don't work now".
>>733172446>censored version of the picgo back
>>733170193Are you familiar with 4chan
>>733171504Every single one of those exploded into trannies except the online casinos
>>733170037Cute strawman little guy
>>733167004Just talk to people the issue is 90% of the people who play online games/mmorpgs are too afraid to just chat while playing together.It still feels like 2001 to me because I'm always the first one to just start yapping with people I group up with and it always makes the people I meet open up instead of the usual *invite to group, do objective, only say "thx" and then leave*
>>733177432Adblock works better
>>733177954It's actually worse than that. We effectively are working for free since we're being paid in paper. I even did a silly experiment where I valued the amount of paper we get, and yeah, it's basically what you expect. We're slaves.
>>733178090I got into an argument with the manager of the jewelry store where I was attempting to buy my wife some earrings for Valentine's Day. They were dead-set that I couldn't make a purchase without giving them my phone number or my email. Once I managed to get them to admit that they don't actually need either of those, they stated that I could do the purchase fine but I wouldn't be able to do an exchange or return without it, to which I asked them to point out the federal or state law which requires it as a receipt is all that would be required (provided I returned to the same store location) and after another five minutes he relented and simply stated it was their software that requires it, not that they actually "need" it. I ended up buying them elsewhere but damn.
>>733171757>>733173021I still don't understand ShitTok. I see everyone using that shit in the subway, swiping to the next thing every 5 seconds. And everything looks stupid anywayLike, what the hell. I just don't understand. I mean, I can understand some form of addictions, myself can be labelled as addicted to vidya, or the internet, or computer screens, whatever boomers said to my generation int eh 90's.But this is on a whole other level. I don't understand this particular addiction.
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>>733177887I don't think that's accurate. Internet usage and the convenience of technology is fine - we COULD have both without it being a shitshow. That was the dream, of those of us who predated all of this. People thought they'd get their robot waifu without said robot giving all of their data to its manufacturer so it could see how many times a week you eat corn flakes and market to you etc. All we need are laws against HOW the data is used and who's allowed to do what with it, along with what is private. This isn't 'governments' - I mean, normally they're the one place you can go and deal with shit in paper if you wish to waste your time , its corporate overlords and convenience that have wrapped their demands into everything,. We could stop the bad parts and retain the good - we could change the way we interact with each other just how it got here that way. All the stuff about someone saying X on social media and now their life is ruined or whatever because a crusade of people who think X is problematic message their boss and call you a nazi/tranny whatever etc.. was not some hardcoded part of society. We could go back to >Uh i'm not going to fire my employee for no reason on the advice of an online mob who seems very upsetbut that requires corporate overlords to be choked into submission instead of thinking that anything that will make them one cent of greater profit is their fiduciary duty and everyone else and all of society can die so that the line on the capitalism-o-meter goes up another tic. These have grown into big problems and band-aid fixes aren't enough but they are fixable without somehow ending society - but its a big vested interest by some to assume that isn't possible.
>>733178472Soul
>>733173021this is the big fuckin' problem. people just say "oh just put the phone down go outside" but culture itself has been suffused by influence from the internet. people have changed in so many subtle ways because of it. my home country is losing it's own culture to american shit just because we speak the same language online.
>>733178423It is an addiction like any other. Social media has replaced real relationships and interactions for many people and likes, upvotes, etc are their only source of validation and they crave it constantly.
>>733165767i can't tell if this is a really efficient use of space and amazing or secretly awful
>>733177910You must be pretty young there's a large demographic of 40-50 year olds here who were primarily the 20 somethings when this site first started, I meet them all the time in /vg/.
>>733172325Bud, there is a non-zero chance that your kids aren't going to be into anything you're enthusiastically into. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say 80% chance. That said, I got one of these for the oldest, and the oldest hated it and never wanted to sleep in it, meanwhile I thought it was rad and liked bunk beds when I was a kid and would have loved to have a bed with a desk under it. Needless to say, I got rid of it and died inside a little. What I'm trying to say, anon, is that they are their own people and will disappoint you in so many ways unless you accept that they are different people with different interests. They won't appreciate the things you get for them that you always wanted. You're really just buying it for you. The only exception to this is video games. So don't waste money on cool furniture and shit that you think is cool that you want them to like. Use it to build them their own pc's and a giant side-by-side diy desks from ikea and game with them. Bonus points, you can have bros over and do lan-game sessions or team up sitting next to each other.I will be building pc #4 soon, and will have 4 pc's side-by-side in a giant long desk.PS - have conversations with hot chicks about wanting to raise kids, it triggers something in their brain, you gotta commit though and get started asap, no lollygaggin around for 7 years with finances. Easier to raise em while you're still younger.
>>733178412We've known for a long time that workers today are more productive than ever, even for the same amount of time and effort (ie its not all people working into 'work death' karoshi like boomtime Japanese fathers of 22 hour workdays), but all that profit all that growth, is going to those sitting at the top. and tards wonder why there's a big vested interest to call anyone who points this out an evil socialist and connect them to something like trannies. You work harder, they laugh, you fight each other for crumbs, they laugh harder the more they take from you.
>>733164837I was going to call bullshit until I read >>733166092And laughed to myself remembering having to fix mine as a kid every time I put a little too much pressure on it.
>>733178423When I was young I told myself that I would try to stay on top of culture and technology and wouldn't let myself get old and lame. Tiktok (social media as a whole really) was the first time I realized I didn't understand things anymore. AI was the second. I look at these things and can't understand why anyone would want to use either of them. I think I'm going to be stuck at a late-2010s-at-best ever of technological and cultural literacy for the rest of my life.
>>733178080This. +qt3.14 kitty
>>733178423It's an algorithm that is designed to create other algorithms that feed you stuff that matches categories the AI determines as well as tags the uploader attached. You can mold it to be whatever you want it to be: I've played around with the stuff and got algorithms that feed me just videos of people screaming nigger, or algorithms where I only see videos of retarded people.
>>733164591It still is, if you're not a retard. Yes, I know: "MUH PHONE!". I don't carry my phone with me and at home it stays in it's own separate room. I have a PC. That's it. No other surveillance devices or internet connections. It's not that hard. You're just stupid.
>>733165132that's what the work computer is for
>>733178691These were really popular among young adults in the 2000s too because they maximized bedroom space in bachelor pads or shared housing. Objectively they're a really good idea, they just fell out of fashion probably because it's hard to have sex in one.
>>733178753I wouldnt say we're more productive. More tired than anything, which is why they emigrate in foreigners as basically official slaves. The system cant function without slavery. A bandaid for a problem their system caused.
>>733178080I'm still baffled at how violent normies get over stupid shit like faggot politics to the point where they openly post gore on social media.red vs blue is so fucking retarded
>>733178412Retard, this "paper" has real value that you can exchange for real services and goods. The only way this paper can become worthless is if inflation removes all its value, so the least you should do is invest part of your money in things that yield at least the same as inflation. If you do this, it doesn't matter if you have money as "paper" and not pieces of some arbitrary metal, your assets are secure, at least if the country you are in is stable, such as the USA, for example.
>>733164591Didn't LGR turn out to be a gay tranny cuck?Idk I haven't checked the 'farms recentlyAny news on the latest gossip regarding that faggot reddit clown whom we all hate?
>>733178997>they just fell out of fashion probably because it's hard to have sex in one.Wouldn't that mean they would be coming back in fashion?
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>>733178412>We effectively are working for free since we're being paid in paper.So I'm also buying goods and services for free?
>>733164591>got given an old CRT from an office my grandma was renting before she retired>works with my PC thanks to adapter shenanigansColors are a bit munted but otherwise she's pretty mintWhat's some good 4:3 shit I can play on it?
>>733178412true>>733179046we need to go back to a barter system
>>733179046>Retard, this "paper" has real value that you can exchange for real services and goods.It's only as valuable as the paper it is printed on. Even the numbers in your bank account is fake. It's literally backed by nothing. That's even more proof we work for free. And the reason you can buy real assets is because everyone is tricked into this ponzi scheme (which fiat is ultimately is).
>>733179071Who is "we"?
>>733179078You'd think but they outright don't make these for any bed size above a kid's twin bed anymore in most places.
>>733166871Hahaha, that's my plan too. I'll even restrict the types of games they play to an extent.
>>733179147Yes actually. Now think about that and realize how fucked up our society is.
>>733178848i understand these things and i can tell you you're not missing outsometimes people saying things used to be better and suck now are rightin fact it's true for most things in the last decade and an halfthe only thing i can say is as actually improved so far is emulators
>>733166931Monica.Pro-tip though. Don't leave it charging all day. Severely lowers battery life. Wait till it gets to ~30%, then charge it, then unplug it.
>>733178131my bad, picked the first image from google.
>>733179203/v/We're gossipchads here
>>733179179We need to accelerate to a cryptopunk future where all money is virtual and anonymous so that I can order heroin and machine guns off the dark web without the state have a woman moment about it.
>>733173464dang, that sound really messed up.they're like junkies at this point.
>>733179367lurk before you post newfriend :)
>>733179241>KF is still conducting their daylong raid of /v/Please kill yourself, female-brained gossipnigger.
>>733179467monero exists
>>733178848>AI was the second. I look at these things and can't understand why anyone would want to use either of themTikTok sure but AI is unironically cool. It's the next step in society and the future of mankind. The step after that is androids and VR.
>>733179504meant for >>733179367
>>733179504tf are you talking about.
>>733179489Nope. I'm declaring it here and now, we're gossip gigachads from discord and did you hear about girlfriend? LGR is a verified incel tranny
>>733164591Fucking newb talk. Everywhere I went, the Internets flowed. Telenet, Usenet, I was everywhere all at once.
>>733179532Yeah, but you still can’t buy a house with your legally gotten Monero.
>>733165494You can always fucking kill yourself.
>>733178080that's because the early internet had people who were like-minded to even be on in the first place. It required some technical knowledge that a lot of people thought was too "nerdy" for them. By the time the early-mid 2010s hit, the internet become more integrated and simpler to access. Now the literal most schitzo individuals and mouth breathers have taken over every online space
>>733179642https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/minge4/buying_a_house_with_monero/
>>733177326Why does a paranoid person buy a kitchen appliance that connects to the internet?
>>733179715>comments/minge4
>>733179682The admittedly low bar to entry kept out turd worlders, not crazies.
>>733178080normalfags+certain people with power realizing that they could use the internet to control people
>>733179682idk in the early 2000's just about everyone at my high school was already using the internet and all had dead and live journalsI still remember seeing drama spill over from livejournal drama in the middle of class.
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>>733179854You're already being a bad goy for alluding to them, you might as well just name the jew.
>>733165494I prefer how much comfier everything is now. Imagine when we finally get Robot Dorothy Assistants to clean and then I can just geek out on Adderall and steroids all day doing game dev and smoking weed and philosophizing about my next addition to a game that rips Melee's corpse from the clutches of trannard claws
>>733179015We're more productive by just about every metric including GDP -the thing is who gets the benefit of that production leads to what you're talking about. We're tired because we're being exploited, and those at the top are taking a bigger and bigger piece, leaving us with lesser amounts and told to be happy about it. People are getting sick of it and rightly so. The problem is who they get sick at and if they are going to realize their problem is the people who are complaining about socialism or whatever other buzzwords and hoping they fight each other for the scraps.
>>733179551I'm not taking a hard anti-AI stance here but I genuinely don't understand what I am supposed to get out of it. I guess stuff like that Claude Pokemon thing is kind of cool but I have no interest in reading AI generated text or looking at AI generated images for the most part. I have used AI solely to generate basic reference images for my own art which is slightly useful but it takes so long to get the fucking thing to give me what I want that it would've been faster to just pose and take a reference photo myself.
>>733178592Yes, this is terribly important. Culture used to be locally derived, and people are still not really aware of just what a huge change this has been.
>>733179551I disagree on a practical level, but I'll always support hope chads when I see them. I hope it happens that way, and I also hope you're willing to fight for it.
>>733179941actually the guy who sent epstein that email was a serb
>>733179232>the only thing i can say is as actually improved so far is emulatorstrue except for their UI design, feels like everyone's just copying dolphin's notes nowadaysi mean it's a fine enough design i suppose but i miss shit like ZSNES, closest modern equivalent i can think of is retroarch
>>733179965>those tiny weightsnoodle arm ahhhh
>>733179179>we need to go back to a barter systemBartering is too inefficient. If the person who has something you want doesn't want anything you have to offer, you'll have to find a third party to complete the transaction.Money is the perfect invention to deal with this problem. Now there is a standard thing that everyone can accept, knowing that everyone else will accept it too.The real problem is that someone will need to control the creation of money, and whoever is in this role will have a wide range of ways to take advantage of this power for their own benefit.
>>733180060I see, you're a yurocuck.
>>733170768Can you still hear the music?
>>733174929BTW this guy is an actual nepo baby who got free rides all his life.
>>733180127i dont understand, did you want me to lie and say he was something that he wasn't?
>>733179682>It required some technical knowledgeDid it really? Everyone in my school during 2004 was using MSN Messenger. Even the jocks and bullies.
>>733179856it was a gradual shift since the 90s. Look at what happened with Usenet after computers became accessible to uni students
>>733180173No, I want you to stop dancing around that it's Epstein who is a jew. But you literally can't, you'll go to yurocuck jail. So sad.
>>733180118I mean it's the same thing with paper. If someone doesn't want to sell something to you for a fair price you're stuck going out of your way to either meet their overpriced demand or you fuck off and get it somewhere else.At least with bartering you could use talent and skill to continue living.It creates an incentive to learn actual useful skills.
this was my setup a few years ago before i cleaned everything
>>733180021>We're more productive by just about every metric including GDP -the thing is who gets the benefit of that production leads to what you're talking about.No we're not. The GDP is kept up only by service industry and big tech. Neither is productivity. One is effectively people working to keep people entertained. The other is made to try to control us as much as possible.There is nothing productive about our output. We're actually very stagnant in innovation since the removal of the gold standard. Nay, even when the central bank was enacted in 1913. We're operating at zero productivity if you look at it for what it is.
>>733180263this is rottentoothgolds room though
>>733180035It's so your coworker who is dumber than you can put out work product that isn't as good as yours. But it's close enough that your boss can't tell and doesn't care. And he can do it quicker, in more domains because he's not really doing the work. So now to stay ahead, you need to use it too.
>>733180035You can use SillyTavern to roleplay every single fantasy you've ever had without filters. You can use image2video to create porn of your favorite images. Same for text2video. The possibilities are endless for coomers.
>>733180262It does, and thats how human society functioned for 10K years.
>>733180240Ok but the email I posted wasn't written by epstein, it was written by someone else and sent to him.
>>733179965Also *lifting weights and drinking beers while I perfect my synergy system which started entirely too complex and is slowly narrowing down to SOUL>>733180103I had just got them out of storage and wanted to post a quick pic to /v/
>>733180263I can tell how fat you are by all those soda cups
>>733180385Ok, you're probably actually a kike. Enjoy your last (You).
>>733179820kek
>>733180316>uh that doesn't count>"services"? oh that means entertainment and stuff right?economically illiterate retard.
>>733180361I can already do this with my imagination
>>733180491Reducing my post down to just one comment is why I refuse to reason with you retards.
>>733180458Wow great argument faggotron, you sure showed me.
>>733180523fucking based
>>733180263takeout is too expensive in my cuntry. god I wish I were american.
>>733180556Go ahead and explain why "services" don't count as economic productivity.
>>733180367We need to go back...
>>733165326I have a cellphone for staying in touch with family a few times a week, and that's it; whenever I'm out in the world I am completely unplugged from the internet. Zoomers don't realize staying glued to their phones 24/7 is a choice.
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>>733180656Services beneath fiat economy are a waste of labor.
>>733180667Im technically paying for wireless internet with my phone. Cause I barely call anyone or talk to anyone except a few people.
>>733172380Nah I'm outside smoking the remnants from a shitty cart in a bubbler brehGotta make sure dogbergs get their exercise in while I practice my squats and sprints and pushups and rows on Aspen trees with a heavy resistance band
>>733180763kekI still remember watching these back in the day while farming honor.
>>733180785How? Why are so many people paying for services if they're worthless? Do you even understand what "services" means? Because it sounds like you don't actually understand what that definition covers.
>>733180608it's expensive here too, why do you think boomers are constantly (correctly) telling dipshit zoomers to stop ordering food all the time
>>733180928dang he looks mean
>>733178423Swiping is exactly the same as those boomers who blow all their money on slots. You keep swiping because the next clip might be a big dopamine hit. Infinite scrolling should unironically be illegal.
>>733167309>left and right speakers both on the right sidewhy tho
>>733180262But this example doesn't make sense. Things can be expensive in a barter system too, it works exactly like money, except that it's less efficient.If someone wants 50 pieces of cheese in exchange for 100ml of honey, they won't suddenly accept 1 liter of milk, they'll want even more milk, because honey is extremely valuable in this economy.Money also makes services more viable. Imagine you're a musician and every single person who comes to see your show decides to bring a piece of cheese. Now you've finished playing your music and you have to find a way to transport two hundred pieces of cheese to your house.
>>733174352>da joos out of nowherelol youre schizo and semitic
>>733167379I mean at least he has a speaker on each side of the monitor now...
>>733181009She just wants me to go do more sprints with her so I don't waste the roids.
>>733178423I don't get how people do it with their volume blaring, I went to the dentist the other day and there was this 50 year old man just scrolling on his phone with it just blasting throughout the entire wait room and you could tell it was the most brain rot tier content in existence.zero shame or fucks given I couldn't stop laughing
>>733180970I want you to go back to what I said about us working for free with worthless money.
>>733181108>Now you've finished playing your music and you have to find a way to transport two hundred pieces of cheese to your house.You give the cheese to someone who can do that for you. Or alternatively, trade that cheese to someone who will it take it and you get something else.
>>733178080reality will do that for youthere is no mystery about anything anymore because of the internet/ there are too few mysteries left to solve
>>733181192My mom who is a similar age does the same thing. They have no self awareness or sense that they might be disturbing someone else.
>>733181210No, because that statement is retarded. You still refuse to explain to me what you think a "service" means and I have no choice but to assume that's because you don't actually know.
>>733178848In this case it just means you're not a mongoloid zombie which is a massive positive.the issue is majority of the youth is completely doomed with that sort of garbo addiction.We're all so fucked when we're senior citizens and these retards are running things in their 20's and 30's.
Even cosplay was better back in 2001.
>>733165132I mean, I do that on work PC when I'm in the office (or at least during work hours only if I work remotely). I don't have a company phone and don't give out my private one for work purposes.If you don't work at a shit company in most "laptop jobs" you aren't really expected to check your email outside of work hours and responding to teams messages in a timely manner while on the clock is quite a bit different from using social media or being extremely online and most of your social life being a discord server so you feel pressured to keep up with it or something.
>>733181283>No, because that statement is retarded.then there is nothing to say
Fuck. Worst quality cart I've ever had. I'm done with these things man. They have sporotrichosis in them which interacts with chemtrails
>>733181305I miss when anime was for nerds and social outcasts instead of the ironic weeb hellscape we have today.
>>733181305japan is still the goat when it comes to cosplay. americans have just gotten worse due to being fat
>>733181382If i'm working for free does that i'm also buying things for free?
>>733181507yes
Way back in 2024 the carts were sturdy sfEverything is going down the shitter nowThe West has fallen.
>>733180316>The GDP is kept up the service and big techYes, economies change. If your entire economy is built on the minerals in the ground and a complete group of dullards being controlled to mine to get it, that's not great for your long term prospects. Even the oil sheiks know this which is why they're diversifying the Emirates, Riyad, and Qatar so the moment the entire universe doesn't run on oil they basically go back to riding camels in the desert. We're one of the largest economies in the world and you can't say that it 'doesn't count' - hell, exporting of culture through Hollywood over the past century is probably one of the biggest industries of its kind and had global reach even when people were flying in biplanes. Productivity does not mean "I like it" or "big men with hammers turning shit into a refined block of shit to buy". >Gold standardThere is no sanity down this direction. Many of the greatest economic booms post-WWII were once we were off the standard (note that many of its best elements of the standard were actually because since Bretton Woods it was demanding a US DOLLAR standard for gold and much like the Petrodollar the US benefited because it was our currency, not because the idea of a metal backed reserve currency itself was the best idea) and many of its ills, such as the increasing shitshow of deregulation from Nixon's era and forward, were from other reasons. Magically going back on the gold standard would not fix these problems and would likely make things much worse; its a policy that at its best was a century out of date, and doesn't fix all the new problems we have because of course it couldn't. We need to be looking forward as even globalized neoliberal capitalism is failing and if you don't want whatever sort of "eat the bugs' cyberpunk future, then looking forward to a more equitable distribution of the results of production is the way to go no matter what is being made
>>733181265Yeah, and now you're going to spend more time looking for people interested in cheese than playing music. And you need to do it quickly because the cheese will spoil if it's stored improperly. Bartering is extremely inefficient, which is why no civilization really used it. Civilizations that did not invent money, such as the Incas, became dystopian nightmares where everything had to be planned by the state, otherwise things simply would not work. Pure bartering would not be efficient enough for an economy that needed to support millions of people to function.Contrary to what hippies and leftists say, money as an invention is a good thing. The problem, as I said, is that with the pros come the cons. Money is extremely good for making the economy more efficient, but it can also cause enormous disasters if it stops working properly due to poor management or pure bad luck. There are also people who understand the power of money better than others and use it for control purposes.
>>733181305>Still have cosplay pictures of girlfriend from early 2000s. Its a nice memory.
>>733181859>Yes, economies change. If your entire economy is built on the minerals in the ground and a complete group of dullards being controlled to mine to get it, that's not great for your long term prospects. Even the oil sheiks know this which is why they're diversifying the Emirates, Riyad, and Qatar so the moment the entire universe doesn't run on oil they basically go back to riding camels in the desert. We're one of the largest economies in the world and you can't say that it 'doesn't count' - hell, exporting of culture through Hollywood over the past century is probably one of the biggest industries of its kind and had global reach even when people were flying in biplanes. Productivity does not mean "I like it" or "big men with hammers turning shit into a refined block of shit to buy".Productivity means prices go down and life quality goes up. It's the opposite for us.>There is no sanity down this direction.The actual solution is the dissolution of the Federal Reserve, and returning to bank notes with a mix of crypto for faster trading.
>>733182034>Yeah, and now you're going to spend more time looking for people interested in cheese than playing music. And you need to do it quickly because the cheese will spoil if it's stored improperly. Bartering is extremely inefficient, which is why no civilization really used it.The free market took care of this. We only went to coin cause we had to start trading with other countries. It's funny how we have to start using globalist payment methods the more globalist a society becomes.
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>>733181473Japan needs weed, steroids and adderall In that orderBeing a jacked, code whizz artist/musician introGOD mogs all the blubbering normie extroverts in this thread
>>733174676Because when 99% of people (especially women) have gone insane from it, that creates problems for me as well
>>733182209But it's inefficient. No matter how fast you are, and how free your market is, it's harder to store and transport cheese than it is to store and transport small copper coins with the emperor's face on them. Not everyone is interested in cheese and if you're unlucky and the village mystic has decided that cheese brings bad luck, you'll probably have to throw your cheese into the river, and you'll have to do it quickly before something bad happens in the village and the villagers blame your cheese and stone you.Money solves all this problems...
>>733182778Good. I'm a gangstalked TI and had to deal with voice to skull until I found the way to rid myself of sporotrichosis and then they ran a stop sign and totaled my carNormies on 4chan need to suffer now that they've tucked their bloody clothes all these years and turned tail like yellowbellied cowards
>>733164803smartphones nigga, normalfags are connected 24\7 nowits all that applefag's fault
>>733180574Do not disrespect me
>>733182860It;s only inefficient to money maxxing merchants. The only people against the barter system were the merchants who wanted to steal from people's trades. It works fine among a civil society. In a community, money was in the form of favors, and also based on your rank. The barter system is the most effective system for humans.When coins get involved, you're just asking to have your labor devalued. Which is why BTC is actually a revolution to currency. The bank should have been using it since its invention. It solves all financial problems.
>>733182987no you're one of those people that went insane from it actually
>>733183234NahWhile 4channers were tucking their balls and talking like girls I subscribed to look outfacharlie and learned every fucking thing that's going onhttps://educate-yourself.org/cn/How-to-Stop-Electronic-Harassment-via-Nano-Fungal-Infection005jun17.shtmlI'm conspiracyMAXXED
>>733183405>here's this thing that this random guy on the internet told meyeah exactly
>>733183405We’re coming for you
>>733170479Why do you people insist on doing this
>>733183405for me? I just play vidya and eat good food
>>733165452I use to have a massive table as my desk and I miss the space but it didn't look great.
>>733183485Anyone who's not a stupid fucking wigger is on their hit listIt's no surprise you weren't invited to join the Masons, you don't even got motion>>733183527Wigger gangs are the weakest of them all
