lollmao, even
>>733274052>Chrono Trigger (1995)>OOT (1998)>five years
>>733274342thats majora you tard
>zoomer larp
>>733274589uhm jannies?
>>733274052u should change it to>year 1>OW>year 5>OW2>year 10>OW
>10 years of being a millennial>Team Fortress 2>Team Fortress 2>Team Fortress 2
jealous zoomie above
>>733278631is that a problem?
>>733274589This would be very funny if they didnt have an anime avatar therefore signaling they are probably a pedophile into SA and CP.
>>733278747Almost like posting on 4chan while crying about anime signals that you're retarded
>>733278687Yes. Where is the Heavy update?
>>733274589>Experiencing sexual assault as a child and child porn as an adult is truly an experiencedamn
>>733274052live service game are the dead of video games, no progress nothing just pure slop made for addicts.
>>733274589can't tell whether this is a joke or not
>>733285015Thank you for explaining the joke
>>733274052 >10 years as a millennial >genre shifts >new mechanics >actual sequels >technology evolving >10 years as a zoomer >battle pass tier 97 >same map but night mode >$30 skin collab >servers shutting down anyway it’s not even nostalgia bait at this point, live service just means eternal early access with a cash shop stapled on.
>>7332740522005 was 8 years into gen z
>>733274052There are improvements. Raytracing is nothing to sneeze at. Games are finally visually impressive in 9th gen.>>733274589GTA 3 was always worthless and never impressive.>It's SAIdiot.
>>733290103>muh memetracingi can't believe people are still glazing this nonsense. it's so over for this hobby.
>>733274052At least one kept faithful to it's core audience
>>733274052I'm a zoomer and I've been playing games since 2002
>>733274589>CP as an adult
>>733292032You've been playing games when you were just born?
>>733274589>anime avatar>sexually assaulted as a child>into child pornography as an adultyeah that tracks
>>733274052Fortnite has changed more over the years than entire game series. It literally different games depending on the chapters.
>>733278747>Anime avatar profile>Not a pedophileSure, buddy.
>>733292501I was 5
>>733274589child HUH?
>>733274589A true 4chan user/10
>>733274052why does 4chan act like zoomers are still 18 years old. I'm nearly 30 and have a fucking kid you old ass uncs
>>733293835Most of 4chan is zoomers. These loud zoomer haters are probably 90s zoomers who don't even realize they are such. Either that or they are the types who lift their memes from reddit, and reddit hates zoomers for being more rightwing.
>>733293835Why do zoomers act like "uncle" means "guy older than me"?Your uncle can literally be younger than you.
>>733274342FPWP
>>733274052What about Baldur’s Gate 3 and Elden Ring?
>>733293938>90s zoomersMost people born in the 90s are more millennial in thought than zoomers.If you were able to form memories before 9/11 happened, you're a millennial. That's at least a majority of 90s kids.
>>733278631You got me but at least TF2 is good
>>733294114why play those when there's fortnite
>>733274052Yeah because dumb fuck millennials got hired to make games and convinced out of touch boomies cock mutilation and neon hair is cool to the youth.
>>73329418297-99ers do not have any meaningful memories with 9/11. The oldest 90s Zoomer wasn't even 5 years old when that happened.
Why do kids nowdays play the same game forever anyway? My alpha nephew has been playing Minecraft for years and pretty much does the same exact thing whenever he starts a new world. I feel like it'd get old after a while.
>>733294304You can't remember things from when you were 5?
>>733294114Yeah what about Bald Ass Gays and Rollslop Ring?
>>733274052There's no progression needed when you already have perfection.
>>733294324>Why do kids nowdays play the same game forever anyway?How many years have you been on 4chan, doing the exact same thing?
>>733274589kek
>>733294226TF2 hasn't been good in almost 10 years
>>733294324I've been playing doom for 30+ years.
>>733294324Because people like (you) have the responsibility to show them more and better games and you're not fulfilling that responsibility. I didn't just stumble into games myself, first my father, then my older step-brother showed me many different games. Do the same to the young'uns in your life.
>>73327405210 years of being a zoomer>13Skyrim (shit game btw)>18SMITE (also a shit game)>23Starsector (guess kek)
>>733294021Zoomers think 'cooked' means bad when it means something has been prepared and is now at it's most tasty.The lesson is zoomers are fucking retards.
Like we don't have counterstrike players that have been playing the same game forever.
>>733294434Read my post again slowly.
>>733278631Ten years of being a millennial: Team Fortress on QuakeTeam Fortress Classic on Half LifeTeam Fortress 2 on Half Life 2
>>733274052all 10 years would be world of warcraft for millenials.
>>733294712>Zoomers think 'cooked' means badNah, they use it to mean "done".
98 is not a zoomer
>>7332901033 is still the best one to this day. this is why we make these threads to educate you broccoli head retards.
>>733294858Yes it is faggot, you were 3 when 9/11 happened. Kill yourself.
>>733294735Again, you don't remember anything from when you were 5?Why else would you think "5 year olds during 9/11 don't have any meaningful relationship with 9/11"?
>>733278747>>733292616>>733274675>>733292901>4chan users when you try to share something funny
>>733294553Man. I have a son, and I HAVE been showing him games. You know what he's latching onto? All the retro stuff I played twenty years ago. I showed him Roller Coaster Tycoon and to him it's some cool, hidden genre he didn't know existed.My feelings about are so conflicted. On the one hand I can relate to him because I liked those same games at his age. On the other hand, man, it's all behind us and only being preserved by whatever nerds are keeping the github going.I don't really like the feeling that some of my kid's best options for electronic fun are not in the future.
>>733294902When the fuck did I ever say that you illiterate sperg, I said that older zoomers WEREN'T even 5. As in they were 4 or under. Get it through your thick skull.
>>733295079You can't remember things from before you were 5?
>>733294978Imagine kids playing shit like chess, now that's a dead game! No patches in fucking, like, years!
>>733274589HANK, HAAAAAAANK
>>733295910The difference is that chess isn't being protected by copyright for a hundred years and that all kinds of people can make interesting chess sets at various price points. Like I don't mind if we were just making tons of different re-releases of Roller Coaster Tycoon, and people enjoyed that. But that's not what's happening. If it's not being reverse engineered and placed on an open source project, a lot of old games just cease to be, or can only be recovered via piracy.Meanwhile the companies that control these markets aren't interested in Roller Coaster tycoon or that genre because it turns out financial management nerds aren't always a lucrative place to peddle corporate scams due to many of them not being kids.
why are millennials so obsessed with "shifts" like generational shifts or whateverfaggot the only thing shifting is your hairline, backwards
>>733296592Abandonware isn't protected under any copyright laws anymore.https://www.myabandonware.com/game/rollercoaster-tycoon-d2k
>>733296806Millennials hate taking responsibility for their role in enshitification so instead they take pride in things that were made by boomers and Gen X for them
>>733297480That's a whole complicated legal mess. You might note that you're still required to go and buy the base game from Atari to play Open Roller Coaster Tycoon. This is a situation where the company that owns the company still gets to use the copyrights they have to collect rent, but an unrelated third party does all the work of keeping the game viable as the Windows monopoly requires us to update our OS again.
>>733296806don't worry lil bro, that shift will come for you too
>>733297748>That's a whole complicated legal messNo, it's not.There are zero copyright laws protecting abandonware.
>>733296806>pointing out stagnation and cultural rot is badgoofy ahh :skull:
>>733297838impossible
>>733296806As the Zoomer tempts the Norwood Reaper, He creeps ever closer.
>>733274589Same.
>>733274589DONT ABBREVIATE SAN ANDREAS OR CYBERPUNK HAAAAAANK
>>733297910Yeah, how about the art assets and scenarios and other shit that isn't software, you dings?Open Transport Tycoon is the interesting poster child, here. They started off ripping the game directly, and they got away with that for a while because it was such an old game, nobody was around to sue or give a shit. But then gradually companies realized they had various copyrights and started to send letters about it, so Open Transport Tycoon had to recreate all the music and art assets. It's being maintained by enthusiasts for free, so it's almost a miracle they survived.But imagine trying to do this where the whole point is playing as Kirby, or something. Nintendo has more or less abandoned Kirby All Stars, but that's only from our perspective. From their perspective, you should have to pay $60 to play that game today. You can't get around that.So yeah, copyrights are not totally straightforward, and even if a software is abandoned, that doesn't mean you have rights to recreate the game exactly as it was.
>>733294858i looked it up once and millennial encompasses people born in the mid 80s, after gen x. 4chan as a whole just uses the term wrong
>>733298326>Yeah, how about the art assets and scenarios and other shit that isn't software, you dings?You tell me.What about it?
>>733298398Read the post, asshole. The music, art assets, and various non-spftware parts of the game are still covered by copyright for a hundred years.Abandonware covers a small minority of old games we'd still play today, and if that old game required a specific character to be its identity, good fucking luck.
>>733274342Well, there were so many games it was common not to play a game at release. I have fond memories of the few times I saw _current year_ as the copyright date on a title screen
>>733298578>The music, art assets, and various non-spftware parts of the game are still covered by copyright for a hundred years.Can you prove that claim to be true?Thanks.
>>733298824Can I prove the Mickey Mouse copyright laws were written to intentionally protect old as shit copyrights? Is that what you're asking?
>>733298897Let me clarify; prove they apply to the adandonware version of Rollar Coaster Tycoon in your next reply, or you lose.Your decision.
>>733299054Tell you what. You prove copyrights don't apply to art assets in a video game. Maybe you can convince OpenTTD that the lawyers were wrong and they can use the original soundtrack after all.
>>733299153>He chose to loseI accept your concession.Thanks for confirming you couldn't do it.
>>733294304Correct, that's why the generational cusp is 1997.
>>733278747>>733292616That's a furry avatar you blind retards
>>733299826You think furry can't be anime?
>>733274052Since we're stuck in a loop I'll just say again that more games with greater variety were made and released during fortnites apex than during the period pictured above, but not having blinders on doesn't fit the narrative here. Anyway nobody responds to the truth, so leave me alone and I'll see you the next time around.
>>733300027>Baseless claims>No supporting evidenceEvery singletime.
>>733299054If you reply to this post, you loseIf you don't reply to this post, you also loseI simply make up the rules and in that way, you lose and I winGo fuck yourself :)
>>733300320>Already lost>pretends to win anywayStop crying.
>>733300027>let me assert some random shit and call everyone here an idiot for not blindly believing meGood job, you sure showed us!
>>733300417I'm not even the same guy, your post is just so unfathomably retarded I had to interjectYou lost now btwMan it feels good to win.. whatever it is I won!
>>733300518>Asking someone to prove their claims is "retarded".Tell me, why do you believe things that you can not prove are true?Sounds retarded to me.
>>733300114https://gamecompanies.com/games-by-yearMajora's mask released 2000 along with 988 other video gamesFortnite release in 2017 along with 8,342 other games.Just for you, champ. I've proven the obvious
>>733300805Now prove the variety is greater. How do you intend to do so?
>>733274646>>733294067same fucking gamenintendo was selling first party rom hacks for full price since antiquity, they just got much lazier recently
>>733300908>same fucking gameIt's literally not.
>>733274342FIRST POST WORST POST
>>733300891https://savvystatistics.com/video-game-genres-by-year-1980-2016/I keep forgetting to use that "let me google that for you" joke website from forever ago lol. Within these genres are also ever branching subgenres. The simulation genre is a particularly explosive example. I've got a game for trucking in simulated mud and a game for exclusively trucking on paved roads, and I don't play many sim games compared to what's available.
>>733300653Making up arbitrary rules to see who "wins" and who "loses" in a fucking internet argument is the retarded part. By the way, me having to spell this out just underlines your retardation, maybe get that checked out, you seem genuinely slow.By the way the other anon is kinda right, abandonware isn't a legal term or status or whatever, OpenTTD only works because it's free. If they charged money for it, it'd encroach on copyrights of.. "someone". I don't care to look into who that is but that's just how it works.This is why they can code practically a copy of the game and require your own assets to fill in what they don't have.
>>733301153Okay.So how many different genres released in each of those years? That'd be a great way to prove your claim true.
>>733301153And he's only listing games that sold over 100k copies on major consoles/platforms. Beneath that is a ever expanding sea of any kind of bullshit you can imagine
>>733301216>Dodges the questionSo why do you believe in things you can not prove are true?Please don't be scared. This isn't an epic pwn or a trap, I just want to know your logic.Thanks.
The most insane thing is that games aren't even good anymore. In past not only did the tech progress but you would have masterpieces.I can't name a single great game that came out after 2007. There are games that are ok. Obra Dinn is fine, pretty good. Hades was ok. Fortnite was fine, 6/10. Nothing great.
>>733301221Nah, I've done enough. Thanks for defying expectation and replying to the truth!
>>733300989Don't understand why millennials are happy about getting basically updates being sold as full priced games while zoomchads get them as reduced price dlc or live service updatesErdtree has more of a claim to being a separate fucking game than majora does
>>733301328Shame.If you can't prove your claim to be true, I'm forced to accept your concession.
>>733298340No, you're just a zoomer.
>>733301294But.. I can? What do you need from me, ten seconds of googling?https://atari.com/blogs/newsroom/atari-acquires-chris-sawyers-transport-tycoonThere you go, Atari owns it for two years now. Again, this can be easily found out by googling, yet another marker that you're very slow on the uptake.
>>733299910You think it can?
>>733301415Someone who knows the truth doesn't really care if anyone else can face facts. Lead a horse to water and all that, you understand
>>733301449You said>"Asking someone to prove their claims true is retarded!"So why do you suddenly care about truth claims now?
>>733274589>4chan has less humor than xitter, tiktok and reels nowwhat happened
>>733301567>I don't careCool. Then go away, because you lost. Or reply again, because you care.
>>733301625I care
>>733301575>prove they apply to the adandonware version of Rollar Coaster Tycoon in your next reply, or you lose.This is the retarded part. Making up random rules for arguing in the middle of a conversation is retarded. It's literal kindergardener rhetoric, "if you respond to this you're gay teehee"Holy shit, you ARE slow
>>7333015914chan is owned and controlled by Jews, the leaks have proven thatTwitter is owned by a right-wing neo-nazi who has absolutely no fucking clue what he's doing
>>733274052And then there's gen alpha with 10 years of roblox and ipad. At least zoomies know how to use a computer
>>733301731>Prove your claim true or you lose>"THAT'S RETARDED!"Believing things without proof is retarded.Stop acting like a retard.
>>733301591Normalfags, discord troons, christcucks, and sharty zoomerpuritans have invaded.
>>733301880There's a dozen other things you can do other than go "waaa waa spoonfeed me", again, I found this shit out with about ten seconds of googling. You could have had a genuine conversation about the predatory nature of modern copyright law but no, you just had to "win" at any cost. Low IQ behavior.
>>733301591I'm on Instagram all the time and that shit is more>creative>original>racist>sexist>etcIt's like >>>/b/ in its prime. Only thing they don't have is gore and full nudity.
>>733301959>Makes up yet more excuses >for why he doesnt have to prove his claims true to win a debateIf you didn't want to lose, all you had to do was prove your claims to be true.Why does this upset you so much?
>>733302091I already spoonfed you with an article and you're still too stupid?You're not a retarded child, you're a baby. A baby that even spits out the spoon that fed it.I'm done, I know better than to argue with the mentally ill.
>>733302319>Cries more>instead of proving his claims trueUh oh! Stinky baby!!
>>733301153This data is cool but incomplete. Is there any pool that is actually complete?You know what, maybe one of the dozens of AI can complete that .csv file with the data from 2017-onwards.
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>>733274052What are zoomers going to feel nostalgia for?>hey bro remember season 4? Those were the times man>yeah bro, I hope season 31 can rekindle some of the magic, I hear they're adding a super saiyan golden freddy skin, so dope
>>733302740read the fucking thread>>733274589
>>733302640Oh are you leaving? nobody has ever won an argument by getting off the stage and running away. I accept your concession.
>>733302740Personally I'm looking forward to the 8 hour "How X BROKE me" video essays about random garbage on the app store.
>>733300908cope, you fucked up and got called out on it. own it faggot.
>>733296806It's not about shifts, retard zoomer. It's about stagnation and corporations refusing to make anything good and different. You've been playing Fortnite, Roblox and shitty Bedrock Minecraft for a decade plus. Now the alphoids do the same.>>733301797Xitter is a psy-op and has always been, and still is, owned and controlled by jews.
>>733276172Uwu
>>733300805>Fortnite release in 2017 along with 8,342 other games.That's a lot of visual novel "games"
>>733274052Why do zoomers tend to stick to one game more than older gamers?
>>733274052For the millennial year 15 is going back to Ocarina of Time and year 20 is going back to SNES era shit.
>>733302740I feel nostalgia for the Wii and the DS. Co-op Kirby's Epic Yarn was pretty sick.
>>73329383530 year olds were not zoomerszoomers were born well into the 2000's
>>733278747>pedo when he was a childso how do you live without understanding jokes?
>>733300805Man, I can't deny there are "more" games, but the curating is awful and the vast majority of them suuuuck. Tons of those aren't even original, but are mobile games copy/pasting the same code, and just spamming the store page because it costs them very little and they're just trying to make back the basic fees associated with that strategy.Like there was a period when you could go to an RPG Maker website and find a billion low-effort RPG Maker games that weren't even finished, but I wouldn't go around telling you that proved RPGs were killing it as a genre because of that.I feel like the real proof that we're in a desert is you look at RTS threads and it's talking about the same games that have been around for twenty years. If AoE 2 stops being supported nothing would replace it that anyone will hear about. City Skylines is the leader for city builders now, but CS2 was a buggy, unoptimized mess you can barely play. Rolle Coaster Tycoon died at the third installment because it was rushed and unoptimized.
>>733304615Can you crown yourself King Arthur?
