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>monster design language centers around biologically corrupted women
Any games like this you can suggest? It's my favorite design motif.
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OH N-
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>>733366615
What is this from? Looks cool.
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>>733367409
Claymore
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Close enough, I guess?
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>>733366615
I've been waiting for that game for years. No, the best you can do is one or two. Monster designers in games are all gay I guess.
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>>733366615
This anime/manga was shoot awful but I can't fault the artwork most of the time. Garbage characters and story tho
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>>733366615
Bloodborne or that one Resident Evil

Also what the fuck was that one indie RPG maker game that was essentially about women undergoing crazy transformations when they get pregnant
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>>733368608
The anime is pretty bad, they Game of Thrones'd the ending because the manga wasn't even close to finished yet.

The first few manga volumes are also not the best. It gets infinitely better as it goes. The anime has done a pretty bad blow to the manga's reputation. It's one of the best dark gothic manga.
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>>733368608
considering how AoT pretty much ripped off the entire plot twist I'd say it was pretty good
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>>733367409
>>733367457
Just be warned the story doesn't really start for like 5 volumes since they do the Berserk thing of short introductory arc right into big flashback
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>>733368608
I liked it
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Dragon's Dogma has monster women.
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Pandora's Tower
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>>733368608
Cool monsters but anything thats just all women is going to suck narratively. Its just lame storytelling
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>>733366615
MGS4
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>>733366615
Scorn, kind of.
Agony and its sequel Succubus, mind you both are edgy and horny af.
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>>733368608
I tried rereading it a few years ago because when I was younger I never finished it, and the whiplash for how much my taste changed shocked me. When Clare gets that arm from the older Claymore girl and Clare just grafts it onto herself and magically learns all her skill I checked the fuck out. I remember not being bothered by that at all when I was younger, and I liked everything about it until that point on this go-around. Haven't touched it since.
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Forbidden Siren series is great for this.
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Is Claymore a good first manga? The box set is on clearance for like $80 near me. I pass by it at the bookstore on occassion and I thought the box set graphics stood out among the others.

I'm 46 if that changes anything. Someone tried to get me to read Naruto maybe 10 years ago and it looked really infantile. I need something with more grit.
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Parasite Eve and Koudelka come to mind but only for the main antagonists and Aya.
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>>733369942
If you feel like turning you brain off it's fine. As I said in that post two above you, I couldn't stomach a particular event that sidestepped what could have been great character development. The art's really good and the tone is nice.
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>>733369959
>PE
It's too bad the game doesn't follow the novel. Good game but super tame in comparison.
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>>733369942
no
it has some neat art but its middling plot wise
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>>733369942
Claymore is just Fisher-Price Berserk.
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>>733367654
Hug your sister
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>>733369942
Blame! is better and can't translate to any other art medium. Claymore is ok but turns too shonen halfway through.
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>>733369658
Pandora's tower
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>>733366615
> Oh no I became a black metal band logo AIEEEEE
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>>733369823
why does it bothers you that a story that stablishes early that cells can be transfered to another body and have the new body manifest the abilities of the original has a girl attaching an arm of another warrior and having her manifest said arm's abilities? She doesn't even learn it instantly, it is a plot point that the arm is far too powerful for her current self and she has to spend 7 years training just to control it normally. Seems like with time you just became a speed reader.
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>>733369942
They let you use 4chan at the old folks home?
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>>733369959
Parasite Eve 2 has an entire enemy subset that are mutant women
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>>733369942
I've re-read claymore many times. It's basically 80% straight combat between bioweapon blonde women with big swords and actual giant bioweapon monstrosities with a little bit of organizational conspiracy thrown in as the little bit of plot it has. Big fights with great art and giant H.R. giger-esque monsters; just get used to the artist's style for faces because everyone looks like a downie with how he draws them.

>>733369823
Wasn't Irene already training Clare to do the quicksword with her non-dominant arm before the graft? It's not like Clare became a master at the technique immediately afterwards, it's more just like she was just provided enough muscle memory to be able to activate it. By its nature, the quicksword is just letting your sword arm basically go wild at full power, so sure just being able to turn it on is really strong, but it's not like Clare received Irene's actual skill and technique with it. She still sucks at the quicksword, it's just a strong ability even at its lowest level which is why Irene was number 2(or 3) at the time only outranked by the literal mary sue characters of Priscilla and Teresa
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>>733371351
Clare takes Teresa of the Faint Smile's head into her body. That's different. Someone's arm?
>She doesn't even learn it instantly
She learns it in about 24 hours to kill that Awakened One, sidestepping character development. The older girl doesn't pass on any real knowledge, any real experiences, nothing that could make me believe she is someone that would want to help Clare. She was present some years ago during The Endless Gravestones when all the girls managed to avoid becoming Awakened Ones, and that was good shit. But then she becomes a plot device to make sure Clare gets strong and can take on this later Awakened One. That's fine on the face of it: a character learning from a master, but Norihiro Yagi goes from tickling my balls to not by truncating it completely and Clare doesn't actually learn anything, she just takes her master's arm. Teresa taught Clare to survive no matter what, who knew all it took to survive was graft someone's arm to yourself.
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>>733369942
Claymore is decent, but Berserk does similar thing more competently (all the way up to second eclipse, then it gets weird).
Hunter X Hunter is a popular choice, but might end up feeling similar to Naruto.
Bit out of the left field but consider Otoyomegatari or Vinland Saga, both mix realism (which can get gritty) with a bit of exaggeration and levity.

>>733371097
Blame! is good, but not as the first manga. It's one work that could skew perception of the whole medium exactly because it was made to be impossible to translate into any other medium.
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>>733369942
Google most popular seinen manga. Steel Ball Run, Monster, Blame!, Berserk. Don't read shonen trash.
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>>733372027
Priscilla is a mutant and Teresa can't be a Mary Sue because she dies gruesomely and unceremoniously. Those aspects work. Irene was training her, and then she goes
>Time's up, take my arm
That's just not satisfying storytelling no matter how you slice it. I'm not saying Claymore is bad, I just like my stories to be consistently good, and that's a sharp downturn I cannot reconcile. It would be like if Guts only worked with a shortsword, trained a few days with a big ol two handed sword, and then someone said "time's up" and gave him the dragonslayer. We see Guts handle a sword larger than him since adolescence, so when he gets ahold of dragonslayer nobody bats an eye. Clare has never had to swing as fast as Irene because taking on an Awakened One by oneself, as a Claymore, is suicide.

It doesn't ruin the story obviously because Claymore went far beyond this moment, but it's enough for me to be reminded I was reading a shonen story and I don't like those.
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>>733369942
The only manga I've ever read was Monster. I've tried to get into others but nothing else really scratches that Hannibal serial-killer-hunter vibe I really dig.
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>>733370794
Laios and Falin lovey-dovey handholding sex!!!
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>>733372662
Ichi the Killer comes to mind but it doesn't hit the mark. Check it out, it's a wild ride.
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>>733369451
so I can just skip the first 5 volumes?

the first few chapters of berserk dont add anything to the story, just creates confussion.
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>>733372152
I actually just started reading Otoyomegatari and was considering recommending that if they wanted something adult themed.
I suspect, though, that since the question was about a physical box set, they'd rather read physical which would be difficult for most seinen manga
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>>733366615
More than anything, I love the names the author chose for the characters. Those female european names hit just right.
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>>733370794
>>733367654
>light heated manga about cooking and eating random shit in a dungeon
>sister character gets killed
>sister gets revived into a becoming a plot twist villain monster thing
>wipes out almost entire party
>70-80 chapters of psychedelic nonsense
>everything's back to normal
such a weird manga
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>>733372773
>shippers
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>>733369942
It has good art and great monster designs, a decent story until the timeskip, and everything after that is not very good, even the designs and fight choreography starts to take hits. I personally wouldn't say it's worth $80, but if you're curious it is worth a read up until the timeskip.
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Add Boku to Akumu to Oneesan to your reading list for more corrupted women monster designs.
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>>733369942
>I need something with more grit.
Made in Abyss
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I watched the anime adaptation when I was young. I remember being pissed off at the whiny kid who constantly got himself into incredibly lethal situations because of his bitching and moralizing

But I was also jealous that the autistic supersoldier babe developed an obsession with him
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>>733374061
Don't let that keep you from getting into the manga. I watched the anime first, too, and I'm glad I still read the manga after.
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>>733373273
Eh, the first 12 chapters before the flashback only really introduce some human characters and an inciting event for the plot so I could maybe see skipping those and starting at the backstory.
The important inciting event is that Clare goes beyond her limit for a bit but manages to recover, and also you need to know that Raki, a normal human, started traveling with her recently. Ch. 12-25 is the flashback and I wouldn't say it's skippable. It's not really that the initial chapters and flashback are unimportant, it's just that the author frontloaded all of the setup before adding the actual hook of the content so I find a lot of people end up dropping it before getting to what the manga is all about

>>733374061
Raki isn't even in 75% of the manga and 15% of the time he is in it he's a gigachad
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>>733366615
Stopped reading Claymore way back when it became monthly but I remember it also coinciding with the reveal that the women are experiments created to fight terribly powercrept monsters on a distant continent. At the time, I just thought how the hell is Clare going to beat them when she barely beat a monster that was apparently not even that high in the ranking.
I should do a re-read and finally finish it.
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>>733373852
Considering how Made in Abyss got incredibly popular with normies when the anime came out, there has to have been people who had it as their first manga.
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>>733366615
Do we all agree this will be the next big thing?
Video games wise?
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>shitty coombaitslop OP gets turned into a true and honest discussion
Love to see it
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>>733366615
Oh, you will love Choujin X.
The core antagonist of the first part is a female Paul Atreides who got physically fucked up thanks to the combination of opium and her powers.
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>>733374941
Tower Dungeon got fucked up thanks to insane character bloat. I hope Nihei knows what he's doing because speedrunning an entire new faction and offing a new antagonist in 2 chapters was very rough.
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>>733375634
He's always been better at just vibes and art. I hope he does pull through with the story because I am invested in the main cast and a dumb and lovable protag.
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>>733369942
>"Suberb."
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>>733374941
its dungeon crawling kino
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>>733369942
No, its badly written and doesn't have much of a story anyway.

Give me some of your interests (wide ranging) and I will recommend something to you. I am near you in age except I've read manga for 30 years.
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>>733370346
its nothing like berserk, though. its more like the witcher for weebs
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>>733373336
To me the most important factor is if the artist seems genuinely interested in what they're making or if it is just the means to pay the bills. Kaoru Mori (author of Otoyomegatari and Emma) seems very invested in the work, with all the hand-crafted details and research into the cultures of the era, so do people like Ryoko Kui (Dungeon Meshi) with the whole speculative anthropology stemming from fascination with computer RPGs, or Akihito Tsukushi (Made in Abyss) in his case the motivation might be... questionable, but he's most definitely deeply invested in the project.
I have fun reading things when I feel the author had fun making them.
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>>733366615
Not nearly enough
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>>733373445
Okay I'll binge it again you don't have to twist my arm.
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>>733378641
My most recent infatuation being Rudy the Blacksmith by Mado Guchimoto, where the author takes rather silly premise and expands it into something fun.
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Best girl
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>>733380076
I respect your opinion, but also damn.
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>read claymore
>main character never masturbates with a claymore
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>>733380076
Galatea is great but I like Irene more.
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>>733382021
it's not THAT kind a story
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>>733373273
retard
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>>733369823
sounds like your younger self was a more fun person
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Priscilla.
I can fix her.
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>>733366615
This is the one that does the attack on titan plot twist but goes no further.
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>>733377582
Courtroom procedurals, true crime (serial killers, kidnapping), criminal forensics, medical drama (like House, ER).
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>>733375318
Anon i've seen thinly veiled Vore threads possesing quality discoussion here.
Anythin But Vidya
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>>733388150
I don't read too many crime seinen so I'm going pretty surface level.
Monster is a surgeon in germany who saved the life of a real psychopath kid and goes rogue vigilante trying to track him down and end him. Same author also has a work called Pluto which should be good.
Apothecary Diaries is a little goofier set in not!China where an unassuming apothecary girl does sherlock holmes tier deductive forensics work in the back palace (where the emperor's consorts stay) of the capital. Not a huge fan but somewhat worth enough to recommend.
Death Note is always a fun one, at least for the first half, and you should know vaguely of that one's existence.
Fukumoto manga don't exactly fit your bill but I think you might like him. He does hopeful lowlife stuff about gambling usually, Kaiji is his most famous, but I think Akagi or Kurosawa would be better.
And other stuff I'd recommend that are either wackier or further away thematically: Ajin, Keyman (I just want to rec keyman to people), Otoyomegatari was mentioned here before, Dorohedoro (goofy despite its art)
I'm aware of other things that might fit, but I never want to recommend anything I haven't read myself
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>>733390378
I can't believe how good Ajin was.
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>>733373445
And don't forget
>God defeated accidentally by the MC being incredibly autistic
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>>733390378
>>733390460
Ajin was damn good, but Dorohedoro is still my favorite
No Guns Life was also quite good
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>>733390378
Got any recommendations about cults? I liked 20th Century Boys but maybe you know of another?
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>>733388150
>>733390378
Some chapters of Franken Fran are legitimate medical drama. But you'd have to cherry pick, overall tone is blend of comedy and medical horror.
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>people shitting on Claymore
>didn't read it in Japanese
many such cases
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>>733390686
Dorohedoro is great, and Dai Dark looked like promising worthy successor, but then best girl died so I'm not so sure anymore.
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>reading media about women
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>>733390747
Nah, like I said I'm pretty surface level on seinen since I don't really dive deep. Most of the stuff I've read is just incidentally from having read a lot of manga in general.
>>733390807
Was considering recommending Franken Fran because of the focus on crime/medical, but most of the time Franken Fran is just a gorey comedy and not very serious so I wasn't sure about it. Was actually planning on re-reading it soon since I never knew there was a sequel and it's been a while.

Oh and for the original recommendations, /a/ will shit on it because it was one of the most ubiquitously popular series, but Fullmetal Alchemist is just a perfect recommendation for people new to manga. It's just the perfect entry level series. Good and unique story/world, shifts between serious and lighthearted well, good fights that aren't too shonen (but maybe too much combat focus to really call it a seinen).
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>>733369942
Have you tried JJBA? I don't know why this isn't a first recommendation for anyone.
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>>733373445
Is it that weird for a manga to have a classic adventure story structure?
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>>733392057
>anon is gay
don't tell the whole world...
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>>733368608
Fuck you
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>>733392349
Honestly yes, the manga industry tends to not really plan in the long term and just tack on new arc to a story as long as the manga remains popular. Due to this, not many manga actually go for formats that rely on the long term. I've also noticed a lot of manga being very horny in the first few chapters and then dropping it, because the author wanted to use the sex appeal to draw people in to the first few chapters and either intentionally used it as a lure or was genuinely just figuring out how much they wanted to put in their series later on.
Dungeon meshi (what's being referenced) kinda worked well because even if it got axed and didn't make it to the conclusion, the manga is about finding and cooking monsters for food in a dungeon so the series works extremely well on a chapter-by-chapter basis because each chapter is an individual meal
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>>733390378
I wish Monster was from the Japanese perspective. It's still great but not a lot of the characters interested me.
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>>733369942
i don't know granpa, manga in general is infantile, even stuff for adults doesn't go beyond being teenager morals with gore in it, i don't know if you read capeshit or something more researched like franco belgian stuff, but naoki urasawa, nihei or jiro taniguchi are really some of the few japs who are 100% worthwhile to me, few other exceptions but they either drop the ball halfway in or you gotta accept the compromise that you're gonna go trough some parts that are so completely retarded and deranged that you may never speak about it to normies unless you want to be ridiculed for reading it.
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>>733374941
>Nihei allowed to use ink again
Yes
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>>733377582
not that anon but do you or anyone else have any good recs for adventure, high fantasy and sci fi? maybe even something with all three of them combined? or am i out of luck? i too haven't read much manga
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>>733392874
>Honestly yes, the manga industry tends to not really plan in the long term
It's hard to pre plan for your manga to become incredibly successful and get 900 volumes.
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>>733392874
I was asking semi-facetiously because frankly I would not describe Dungeon Meshi's story arc as "weird" like the anon I was replying to (and likewise I'm not sure if they were being entirely serious either...), but now that you put it like that, yeah, it's kinda rare for a serial manga to be that well thought out, huh?
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>>733392874
Can I ask just a general surface level manga recommendation question? Anything you suggest that's not like 100+ volumes? I read Phantom Blood and it was nice just having three hardcovers. Quick afternoon read. I don't got time to invest in a story spanning so many volumes.
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>>733393448
>adventure, high fantasy and sci fi
Nausicaa of the valley of the wind
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>>733393734
Just to add, any genre or age level is fine, but something more on the grown-up side. I have Azumanga which while it has a loose continuity, you can read 2 or 3 pages and be very content. I do want something with a story but nothing like One Piece's length.
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>>733392349
i mean if you go back in the day not really, but thinking about it they basically pioneered the dogshit netflix series trend of having the first chapters having all kinds of crazy shit to hook you up and then figuring everything else after the fireworks ends, evangelion, trigun, aot comes to mind, i'd say pre 1995 you can get more trad stories structures.
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>>733367409
>retard can’t read filenames
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>>733393448
five star stories
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>>733394134
No, I can't read. but you know what? At least I don't insult people over their disabilities.
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>>733371230
fucking lmao
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>>733393543
Manga normally structures itself like western superhero comics only with a conclusion (eventually)
>introduction
>first arc
>90% random arcs with at best thematic relevance
>eventual final arc when editor tells them to wrap up
It's rare to get a linear story since for most authors the random arcs are the goal
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>>733369942
Read Fire Punch.
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>>733388150
damn bruh, i got one for you but i'm forgetting the name, read pluto btw, you might also like mamoru oshii's movies, especialy gits2
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>>733380076
Almost, but not quite
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>>733366615
just search
>"medieval"
>"soulslike"
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>>733392101
Franken Fran is kinda tonaly inconsistent, some chapters will haunt me until the end of my days, some got genuine chuckle out of me, some are just weird. Together it's quite a ride, partially because you never know what's coming, but ymmv.
Anyway, sequel is as good if not better as the original run.

>>733393859
wildcard recommendation: Voynich Hotel, it's 3 volumes, simplistic art style, peculiar sense of absurdist humor, maids
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>>733393734
>>733393859
Hmm, starting with mentioned in this thread Ajin, Death Note, Dungeon Meshi, Fullmetal Alchemist, Keyman, and Franken Fran are all a little over 100 chapters or less. Though it's sometimes hard to tell exactly how long it is because I read online which goes by chapters and some manga have double the amount of pages in each chapter, but none of those drag on.
Unmentioned recs that are also hovering around a bit above 100 chapters or less:
The Voynich Hotel - A cutesy dark manga about a dude staying at a hotel on a remote island and the denizens of that island
Ping Pong - Ping Pong
Inu Yashiki - An old man maybe dies, but wakes up as a cyborg and decides to use his powers for good, but he's not the only one in that situation
Houseki no Kuni - Cute rock girls do cute combat until it stops being cute and you the reader go through every cycle of samsara and start cursing the author for what they've done
Hellsing - excessively stylistic and violent british (vampires) versus the church (not vampires) versus nazis (vampires)
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Why does /v/ have better taste in mango than /a/?
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>>733374941
I kind of hope not. Keep it as an rare gem.
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>>733395467
Because I actually like reading, some of my favorite vidya are VNs
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>>733388150
>Courtroom procedurals, true crime (serial killers, kidnapping), criminal forensics, medical drama (like House, ER).
Wow what a faggot, or a woman
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>>733395467
>going to /a/ for manga
next you're gonna say you go to /v/ for vidya!
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>>733380675
>>733394749
Not down with the smug.
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>>733366615
Bloodborne
Rom, Moon Presence, Ebrietas, and so on
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>Norihiro Nagi's dark fantasy manga, Claymore, is set to receive a live-action series adaptation. CBS Studios and Propagate Content are teaming up with actor and producer Masi Oka, in partnership with Shueisha, the original publisher of the manga.
>2025 news
hope it never happens
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>>733373445
But the sister got killed before the manga started
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>>733396541
And yet not a anime remake?
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>>733393734
Faraway Paladin, first arc: After that it becomes a pretty meh Tolkien ripoff.
Orb, on the Movement of the Earth: It's a pseudo-historical character drama about the human spirit and finding meaning in a cruel world, but it's just so damn good I have to recommend it at every opportunity. If you need some hope for humanity, this is it.
Summertime Rendering. Longer than you want, but the anime condenses it well. Time loop mystery with elements of horror that turns into an action thriller over time. It has a few anime-isms like gratuitous fanservice, but it's good enough to put up with them even if you aren't into Japanese media.
Baccano! : A big mishmash of action, comedy and fantasy. Set in 1920s New York with a big ensemble cast featuring alchemists and mafioso.
Durarara!!: Another ensemble piece from the Baccano author, this time set in a modern Japanese city. Various larger-than-life personalities go about their daily lives.

I swear I have some that haven't been adapted into anime too, they're just not for beginners, not that good or have already been mentioned.

>>733395467
Rule of 4chan: boards are always better at discussing off-topic threads. Being a random topic keeps the trolls/low-effort posters out and people that actually care about the topic show up.
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>>733395467
Everyone ITT has been equivalent to top40 popularity contest bullshit. None of the manga mentioned here is any good.
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>>733397316
>ow the edge
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>>733366615
you already made this thread
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>>733397150
Aren't Baccano! and Durarara millennia long LNs, but just have very little adapted into manga/anime? I know at least where the Baccano! anime ends is a very good tied up stopping point, but I don't remember any point like that in Durarara.

>>733397316
I mean the inciting point was someone with zero experience asking for recs so what do you expect. It's intentionally been entry level shit plus some on topic personal picks. Besides, it's more been 4chan's top 40 ITT. If you really think that most of this shit is actually in the populus' top picks you're massively overestimating the populus.
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>>733397316
Normies get safe picks. I can hardly recommend any random guy the mongolian linguistics preservation adventure, 800 chapter korean hindu nested time travel story or the surprisingly accurate to medieval literature fetish tournament without knowing he's got a thick skin.
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>>733397316
>Jojo's
>not good
braindead take
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>>733397316
fuck off moefag
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Sometimes I reread Cassandra's chapters just for the fun.
What an amazing character!
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Great site for reading manga
https://weebcentral.com/search
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>>733400127
Mangasee123 was better
why they killed it? Why mangadex is going full homo jew?
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>>733395467
moefags and shonenfags have no taste which is like 50/50 of /a/
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>>733399635
>breast and vagina iconography
boring
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>>733395467
Because they are addicts who cast aside any kind of personal standards to consume every seasonal slop drop just because it's new or fresh or whatever
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>>733366615

There's some Japanese shmup series made by some psycho whose entire graphics style is "Giger and tits". I don't remember the name but I'm sure somebody knows.
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>>733403274
Angel at Dusk?



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