Obviously there's a lot of money to be made from making live service games, but they forgot you have to make a compelling game that people want to play.
>>733396305anything americans can do to not blame their DEI policies on themselves...
>>733396305He left out Bungie being responsible for most of that and the Bungie acquisition being one of the biggest wastes of money ever.
>>733396305>Sony's mistakes are actually being covered It's a miracle. That's what.
>>733396305>wanted 12 GaaS at the same time>somehow not comprehending that even if released they would've all competed with each otherHow do those people have jobs? Even a retard can easily see that this shit never had any chance to work.
The funny thing is that this could legitimately lead people to not purchase Marathon out of spite towards Sony's GaaS initiative.
>>733396682They're throwing a wide net, they just want a single cash cow they can milk forever instead of pretending Horizon is successful.
Sony does this every year and you retards still act surprised every time
>>733396530Most of us are still trying to pretend the progressive illness didn't start in 1776.
>>733397058Nice headcanon
>>733397146You're right; it started with the Colonists ideological inspirations, like Rousseau, who coined the phrase "eat the rich."
Is there a single live service game that was primary developed for consoles?
So how many live service successes have they had?? I can only think of helldivers and I don't think they actually had any confidence in that lol
>>733396305Games as a service currently doesn't work because most people who would play those already are playing one
>>733397295Little big planet, dreams
>>733396305It's the chuds fault, not the suicidal Blackrock "business framework" ;dd
>>733397295Mario Maker (1, not 2 because that just had 1 update)Splatoon 1-3
>>733396305gotta keep chasing that live service dragon. Those previous ones that all failed? they're just statistical anomalies. THIS time we'll make the next Fortnite baby! I can already smell the collab money from here
>>733397295Phantasy Star Online
>>733396305you just know that when Intergalactic flops, Naughty Dog will get shut down too
>>733397295Helldivers 2 obviously. but it's kind of a freak of nature.
Playstation and Xbox dying in the same year holding hands
>>733396305bluepoint was closed down?damn, based sony
>>733397287> Rousseau, who coined the phrase "eat the rich."Yeah and he was right. Cry about it, papistfag.
>>733396305Justice.
>>733396305>NOOOOO STOP PUTTING PEOPLE OUT OF WORK>>733398236>NOOOOO STOP GIVING PEOPLE SO MUCH WORK
>>733396305KEK even Resetera isn't defending this. They are in complete melt down.
>>733396305naughty dog and sucker punch soon, then sony
>>733396526Even if they did, people are sick of the season pass/stay on our game and ONLY our game bullshit.>>733396305Fuck GaaS. Sony's biggest fuck up was killing Japan Studio and other "niche"/AA internal studios to chase the GaaS dragon. They'd be in a better position to cushion the Concord blow if they didn't fucking kill the studio that makes Ape Escape and other weird shit while letting THOSE BE PORTED TO STEAM.
>>733399951>and he was rightTranslation: he inspired centuries of subversive rhetoric that (You), along with the majority of Westerners, now take to heart.
>>733397058The left hand path is more ancient than that.
>>733398580Just happened today.
Sony just need to read the room and develop a live service game featuring a diverse, bold, in your face castHow difficult is that?
>>733396305Two words: open world multiplayer Ape Escape gacha game.
Sony is fucking dead
Sony trying to chase their own GAAS multiplayer cash cow like Fortnite or Marvel Rivals but failing miserably because their strong suit is single player games not multiplayer
>>733396305>>733396591Its actually hilarious at how thoroughly overvalued Bungie was at the time of the acquisition. I wish I could learn just how Microsoft brainbroke Sony into following their example in the most brainless way possible.I'm assuming most of you have seen the myriad news items and Youtube videos about Destiny being deader than dead right now.
>>733396305the death of triple a gaming is finally here.
>>733402098Bro, your Marathon?
>>733396305Jim Ryan doesn't deserve to lick dirt off the soles of Jack Tretton's shoes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-To7WJyWs
>>733396305>live service>or another demakeDamn, bluepoint will be missed.
At least Sony is learning not to trust misleading statistics from fucking cell phone game companiesFortnite is a clown show, a lying one
>>733402426I think the logic was simple. >oh my god, they're buying call of duty. if it's exclusive, we're fucked. we need to buy a popular fps game right now!!!But they panic bought before seeing that CoD wouldn't be exclusive so they wasted their money on the "live service advice" of people that had no idea what the fuck they were doing any got in early before there was a lot of competition.
>>733396305It's a mistake for Sony to think that single player studios can just be closed without any consequences. Hardcore PS gamers are dropping the brand completely, seen lots of posts like this one all across social media
>>733402426I can't imagine how much money they used to bribe the FTC too, you know it's bad when even the judge asked the FTC to stop the shilling Sony in a Microsoft case
>>733402258All I read was Ape gacha and I’m in
i fucking hate it that all these dumb ass retards will be bailed out with the amount of money gta 6 will bring in, there should be way worse consequences for retarded leadership
>>733397031holy shit, this dude is a fucking menace
>>733396305Who would have thought that hiring an MBA and a soccer fan who knows nothing about videogames to run your videogame company was a terrible idea?Who would have guessed that allowing your company to be taken over by a cabal of slimy snakes that has contempt for your core fanbase (gamers in general, and especially core Playstation fans who love Japanese games) and essentially wants to subjugate them or chase them out would destroy you?
>>733403201It's a shame how no one outside of /v/ seems to have heard those hearings and courtcases. It's such a fundamental knowledge piece but somehow it is lost media and no one even seen a screenshot of a log of it.
So which studio is next on the chopping block? My money is on Bend or Media molecule since its been a while since they put anything out and Sony likes to play favorites with studios like Naughty Dog.
>>733403127so? ball and guns gamers will never drop sony
>>733403681Some ball gamers already switched to Nintendo with switch 1. Gun games was always lacked on NS1 tho I'll give you that but that's clearly coming on NS2
>>733396305The suits making millions every year to lead the company aren't stupid.They only need one successful live service in order for them to not only recoup cost on every failure, but also secure a massive amount of revenue over the next decade.Marathon, Fairgame$ and Horizon Hunter Gathering can still make it.
>>733403127>I've been a huge fan of the brandHow the fuck do you end up like this?
>>733403615Bend>last game came out in 2018>been a support studio since
>>733403996>The suits making millions every year to lead the company aren't stupid.They were installed by a workaround to communism (50% tax rate -> launder -> force compliance for meaningful access to the economy). They're basically the same breed of person as the guy who executed the talented train engineer because he said that they were at capacity.You don't actually need to be that smart to be a scammer and a thug. You just need a compliant and gullible population.
>>733404195so there goes any chance of a new syphon filter
>>733398236I seriously think that ND must be shitting bricks looking at what's happening with Highguard and the reaction to that Horizon game.
>>733396305Gaming is healing bros and it’s a beautiful thing
>>733404037No idea. Xbox/PS fans always puzzled me
>>733404349why? it's going to sell 4 millionthere's still tons of ND fans
>>733403681Sportsballers dropped EA when they dropped FIFA. Not at a "OMG FLOP" level, but at a noticeable to investors level.I wouldn't say you're wrong, but I wouldn't be 100% in the "you're not leaving, shut up" camp.
>>733404347That went when Days Gone flopped and they were put to work as a support studio.
>>733404267Most of these dudes followed the same kind of path>Study at prestigious university>Make connections>Rise up the corporate ladderIt's not a perfect system especially since it tends to favor carny & power-hungry people, but it's way more fair than what you think is happening
>>733396305All that and porting to pc. How the fuck did they lose their way so hard despite never having fuck ups as bad as Xbox? With Xbox you can at least understand their retarded behavior and decisions are out of desperation but I can’t figure out what’s up with Sony. Nintendo makes money grubbing decisions that actually help their consoles while Sony makes money grubbing decisions that harm them every single time
>>733404349ND is only shitting themselves if the reaction is as shit stormy as Last of Us 2. Even NORMIES hated the TV adaptation of 2 to where HBO is tapping out after the "Abby-side" of the story is adapted.If Intergalactic is as shit-stormy, it's over. But they're safe as long as they do single-player shit and somehow convince Sony they can make money past that initial launch-burst of interest.
>>733404464A game that is taking at the very least 6 years to develop selling 4M is atrociously abyssal, TLoU2 sold like 10M and flopped.
>>733404660Nintendos decisions aren't working either. Their profitability is down.
>>733404660PC ports would be fine if they stopped fucking up in the attempt to entice PC players into their eco system.>Last of Us, king?>Sure, Sony.>PSN account requirement, king?>No, Sony.>No Multiplayer in tow, BTW, king. We can't afford to monitor your cheats.>Then why are you charging full price for a late port, Sony?I'm still waiting for the Nathan Drake collection, BTW.
>>733396305COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
>>733404624If you're smart enough to pass Algebra 2, you're smart enough to have an MBA. The other stuff is useless and braindead.>politicsI actually think that having a truly sharp mind is a debuff on your politics stat. Politics is mostly animal intuition. A dog who rolls over for a more dominant dog is engaging in politics.You have to be smart if you want to synthesize politics with long term results, but they're obviously not that interested in that.
>>733396305Thanks to this guy, I have Helldivers 2 on PC, so I'm grateful to him for that.
>>733396526That's not even the half of it.Sony was trying to make MULTIPLE live service games and sell them to their own ecosystem. By design that means most of their releases were guaranteed to fail, because in the off-chance that one of their online games succeeds, it would draw attention and loyalty away from other Sony titles. A live service GAAS game requires cross-platform to succeed because you need the widest audience you can manage. This doesn't even take into account how draining funds from their own loyal customers would only reduce sales of Sony titles elsewhere.They literally pursued a policy that, by design, guaranteed the loss of most of their investment. They thought turning their captive audience into live service addicts would magically produce more money, but this doesn't follow any sane logic.
>>733397031>those grins turned to frowns on next day
>>733405116Have you seen how much money games like LoL & Fortnite make?Ignoring live service is leaving potential profits on the table, shareholders would never allow it.
does the western division of sony have blackmail material on sony japan? why are they allowed to make retarded business decisions over and over? surely concord would have been a wakeup call right?
>>733405116>but this doesn't follow any sane logic
>>733397031>50% of what's presumably a photo of studio leadership + Jim Ryan are womenWomen get it done.
>>733396305Bluepoint fucked SotC and Demon's SoulsNoThey deserved to never do another demake
>>733407036America is the biggest gaming market, so they moved their division to the biggest market to try to make more money but Americans don't make games other Americans want to play so it didn't pan out. Activist devs and game journos are partially to blame but the west is obsessed with trying to make live services and that's really the key factor to the western gaming industry dying. Even something shit like Veilguard is a repurposed live service game that got reworked to be single player.Japan still makes quality single player games, that's the difference. Jim Ryan went out of his way to make sure Sony no longer released those and focused on live service instead, when the only reason people cared for their games is because they were quality single player titles.
Nothing that's normal for Sony. They butchered a lot of studios during the Vita/pre-PS4 launch. Let go of a lot of tenured people over the course of the PS3's life.
>>733396305They just need another horizon game, with a black female this time
>>733407540wish granted
>>733407540SONY HIRE THIS MAN!!
>>733403996You know what you need in order to have a successful live service game? Appeal to a sufficient large and dedicated base.You know what your hiring practices and design philosophy should be when it's a virtual certainty that the overwhelming majority of your customers will be men?This isn't a coin toss. Not everything that deserves to succeed does, but things that are made for tiny audiences when they need to be huge are almost guaranteed failures. Only the brand names that they've purchased stand any chance at saving them, but this is like the joke->Do you know to become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire and then let an idiot manage your money!An FPS by Bungie should have a 99% chance of succeeding, but they've dropped it down to like a 10% chance through sheer incompetence and hubris.
>>733407682The two girls who aren't the hamplanet actually look okay. They wouldn't be out of place in a 2003 videogame.The other designs are garbage.
>>733396305>genki>mangalawyer>piratenationevery day there's another one of these niggersyou now remember mombot
>>733405116You're thinking about this wrong, anon. The strategy seemed to be 'we're going to the casino and we're going to spin the roulette wheel twelve times. Each spin is $250m, but if it one hits (getting a Fortnite or even something halfway to it), we'll make enough to cover losing the other 11 spins and then make profit on top of it. And if we do get a hit, who gives a fuck if it cannibalizes our other games? It's all money going into our pockets.Basically, the execs are behaving like degenerate fucking gamblers.
>>733396609Memory holed tomorrow
>>733397031Yet apparently Doug Bowser is more evil according to morons
>>733396305turns out live service games are almost always complete garbage, who could have seen that coming
>>733396969yeah that really worked didn't it. wide net strategy, super effective stuff
>>733407001If Sony is incapable of finding a middle ground between making exclusively live service games and making absolutely no live service games at all, Playstation is going to die.
>>733396305Do not forget that despite live service slop cancellation Hermen Hulst has also doubled down on it.
>>733397959This!
>>733396305I'm convinced all big companies are filled with retarded AI bros using AI to tell them how to do shit, or everything is some big conspiracy to get big companies fucked. This many flops isn't natural.
>>733397310Helldivers is it, and that's not a success on even a fraction the scale they want.
>>733398236>Naughty Dog will get shut down toothey'll be turned into yet another live service slop studio who will make uncharted into a live service post apoc moba hero extraction shooter
>>733411930Despite all the shit flinging they've still managed to release their regular cinematic games alongside the botched development of GaaS>Horizon 2>Ragnarok>Spider-Man 2>DS2>Astrobot>Yotei>Saros in April>Wolverine later >Intergalactic eventuallyI agree that their GaaS shit sucks and is retarded but they didn't totally can their other studios. They just fucked them unnecessarily hard in the ass for a while. And killed Helldivers 2, the game that could have been their goldmine if they weren't retarded.
>>733404349They only would be shitting themselves if Ghost of Yotei failed
>>733398236I don't think they'd kill Naughty Dog since it's more or less the Playstation brand itself. Bungie could be written off as a 'bad investment,' but Naughty Dog has been shipping games on Sony hardware since PS1. If ND goes, Sony's californian offices might as well go with it.
>>733403996Not saying you're wrong, but things are probably going a lot worse than those suits predicted.
>>733396305Sony won, and now they don't have to do shit to win you over. Prepare to cough up more and more cash for less and less worthwhile games.
>>733396305Prepare yourselves /v/, it is time for... Concord 2
>>733396305>Ruin all your studios to make shitty live service games that end up wasting hundreds of millions of dollars. >Cancel the only live service game that actually had a good & unique concept and that people might've actually enjoyed playing.The people in charge of Sony/Playstation are retarded. It's not that hard to understand.
>>733412760>BlackRock>Rothchild>retardedHey pump out more nigger propaganda.
>>733396305honestly losing blue point is a blessing. I wouldnt wish their remakes on my worst enemy
>>733404818>Their profitability is downaccording to who?
>>733396305Go woke, go broke.Those were all shit games and Sony needed to close the studio.Not much else to say about it.
>>733396305Sony is slow to adopt AI that's why they're losing big.
>>733404718ND needs to do is stop making their games like fucking movies and stop making their games having 90% cutscenes. If Intergalactic ends up like that, game will flop hard and they're fucked hard thus studio is shut down.>>733412532Isn't Ghost of Yotei a flop already?
>>733396305Why does Sony refuse to just make normal videogames
>>733402426The dumbest part of the Bungie acquisition in retrospect is that it was Sony buying Bungie with the idea that they could have Bungie help figure out what to do with all their other live service projects, what to focus on and what will sell,, without noticing Bungie just got lucky with Destiny and wasn't actually skilled at anything that would help Sony with future development.
>>733404349People are starved for AAA open world games that arent just Ubishit at this point
they say this, yet marathon will do insane numbersmaybe the issue isnt live service
>>733398236Intergalactic could potentially be a success (no clue if it will or won't), but either way the problem for Naughty Dog long term is that their game development just isn't going to remain sustainable as development times continue to increase and costs continue to skyrocket. This is true for some other big Sony AAA studios as well.
>>733410909Nintendo bad.
>>733396305its worth shutting down every single studio they have, if they can just make a fortnite level game they dont need to do anything else.
>>733419071>maybe the issue isnt live serviceDoesn't help
>>733396305>Jim Ryan and Sony's overly zealous live service pushDon't ignore Hermen Hulst who still has a job somehow.
Imagine what they could have done with just concord's budget. New Jak and Daxter, Ape Escape, Ratchet multiplayer title, Dreams 2, little big planet 4. There's literally no reason to not go back to their own IPs.
>>733419071Making a live service game is basically gambling on a huge payday. People who play live service games choose 1 and play it for thousands of hours. Even if your game is good theres a high likelihood it wont catch on because there just isnt space in the market for it. Whereas if you make a good single player game it will sell well every time
I used to buy Playstation consoles for quirky Japanese games. I wish they would just go back to doing that.
>>733419375That's why Sony greenlit so many at once. They knew most would fail, but you only need one or maybe two to hit. Honestly the success of Helldivers 2 has probably already made the whole thing worth it to them
>buy out a bunch of studios run them into the ground and eventually kill them>make several of the most baffling and retarded financial decisions in the history of vidya>leave the entire industry in smoldering ruins>but you've got a bottomless pile of money to sit on anyway so none of it really mattersThese companies are literally too big to fail no matter what they do, it's kind of fucked being able to just torch untold billions in dollars and still face no real consquences.
Kind of amazing how both Sony and MS completely fucking blew it this gen.
>>733396305All this money SIE wasted on live service crap yet to date Sony Music in Japan has made far more on a far lower budget with phone gacha.
>>733419769Nintendo too.
>>733419769Nintendo isn't doing great either
>>733419841cope
>>733419841>>733419858They rode the covid wave, but yea, they're fucking up pretty bad to.
On the flip side, Jim Ryan found an additional 10m PS2 sales in the middle of the African Congo.
>>733412059it's because they are trying to chase current year trends but the games take 5 years to make
>>733397287Stupid fascist retard
>>733419859I buyed boughted a Switch 2.They're sucking balls this gen. Ridiculous pricing and mediocre output across the board.
>>733396305Jim Ryan was just doing some nice sabotage. I don't get why the stupid Japanese decided to give these fucking Amerimutts the company and relocate them in Commiefornia.
>>733412059The plan they set in motion was based off covid, they thought we'd legit all be in lockdown for many years.
ReminderSony were planning to buy Fromsoft but after the head of PlayStation at the time saw Demon's Souls gameplay he thought the game will be a huge flop and they decided against the purchasethe way shuhei yoshida shat on the original game is unreal>完成間近の段階でDemon’s Soulsを2時間ほどプレーしたが、2時間後にもプレーを開始した時と全く同じ場所に立ったままだった。>「これは駄目だ。信じられないほど酷いゲームだ」と感じて、プレーを止めてしまったよ。>I played an almost finalized version of the game for about 2 hours, but 2 hours after having started playing I was still standing there at the same location.>"This is terrible. It's an incredibly awful game.", I thought to myself, and stopped playing.then he ended up regretting it>From subsequently went off to Bandai for DaS and it became a legitimately mainstream hit on the PS3 and 360, Yoshida approached Miyazaki, admitted he was wrong and commissioned From to collaborate with Japan Studio again for Bloodborne>Demon’s Soulsの欧米販売を見送ったのは今世代最大の失態だった>missing out on publishing Demon's Souls in the US and Europe was our biggest mistake ever this gen>The game’s asynchronous messaging system and the ability to learn from other players’ mistakes helped inspire the Share button on the PS4 controller, Yoshida saidIt's also worth mentioning that the last we heard from Miyazaki was>"Obviously, as one of the creators of Bloodborne, my personal, pure honest opinion is I'd love more players to be able to enjoy it," Miyazaki saidNow Miyazaki wants to join up with Nintendo
>>733420236>The game’s asynchronous messaging system and the ability to learn from other players’ mistakes helped inspire the Share button on the PS4 controller,oh yeah, amazing feature that everyone uses.
>>733420236Why would you willingly downgrade yourself?Most people won't buy a switch 2 just for one game
>>733396305Not sure what you would expect from Sony where leadership looked at Concord and decided they needed to fork over another $200 million to buy the studio because it was going to be the next Star Wars.
Never forget Jim Ryan saying WHY WOULD ANYONE PLAY THIS in regards to older games.Consume new product, then get excited for next new product.
>>733420236Is this why it makes PC people seethe?
Did Sony pay like 4 or 5 billion for Bungie? Fucking retards. Microsoft outmaneuvered them hilariously
>>733397031I bet Media Molecule is next.
>>733420449He was right. DeS remake is better than the original.
>>733420475I wouldn't say microsoft is doing so hot either.
>>733420516LolNo, it wasn't
>>733420489dreams came out six years ago, what the fuck have they even been working on?
>>733420554The things that you call artistic design and such is just an excuse for hardware shortcomings at the time.
>>733407682the second from the left redhead with the exposed belly is kinda cutetoo bad she is stuck in a shit game
>>733420475they thought they were getting halo
>>733420343I'll be real curious to see how Duskbloods performs. Very bizarre, risky move on their part.>>733420516You wish, fag. Poopoint were talentless hacks and ruined everything they touched.
>>733396305even a live service is better than rehash slop
>>733420489Sony also cancelled the PS5,PC version of Dreams
>>733420573trying to pull up out of the tailspin
>>733420627Old games are pretty much always the worst way to play something. They just dont have the sauce that new stuff with quality of life enhancements and tech has
Games as a service are set to fail in the future. It's all about iPhones and shit now. That's what kids care about. Millennials are slowly aging out of vidya
The biggest thing I would want to know about SIE right now is what are they having Haven Studios do to try and salvage something out of Fairgame$
>>733420695The most successful games out there are service games.
>>733420548Their gaming division is a lost cause but as a whole Microsoft is doing fine. They don't really give a shit about the xbox brand anymore.
>>733404349>I seriously think that ND must be shitting bricks looking at what's happening with Highguard and the reaction to that Horizon game.Nah Sony will move heaven amd Earth to make even a Naughty Dog bungle (TlOU part 2) into looking like GOTY and a big seller.Expect Intergalactic to become a bundled game and for it to magically win as many awards as E33 even if players don't like it.
>>733420489Media Molecule and Bungie will both be closed by the end of the year
>>733420695>Games as a service are set to fail in the future.Why would companies give a shit if the servers shutter when they've already made out like a bandit? If Fortnite were to die tomorrow do you thing ebin gaymes would regret making it?
>>733420682And none of it came from From software
>>733420682b8
>>733419841Not really. They're positioned the best. They have the deepest catalog to draw from by far, the least expensive console to manufacture, an install base close to 200 million, and like 85 percent of Japanese developers making games for them
>>733420856Playstation has over 200m install base and they have the vast majority of third party that Nintendo still doesn't have and a lot of it they won't have. Also GTA 6.
>>733396305Stop Blaming Jim Ryan and blame Hermann Hulst, the guy who replaced Shawn Layden underhandedly where he didn't even know he was fired and had to send his goodbye email on his private account to work friends
>>733420962but isn't this guy now the head of SIE now? Hulst didn't make the call, Hideaki Nishino did
>>733421125Hulst is still in charge of Playstation Studios which is the game dev division.Nishino is probably trying to find Cobolt and Silicone for PS6
>>733421125Hermen Hulst was the head of Playstation Studios and making the calls that fucjed them up. Blaming Nishino would be like blaming Furukawa for Nintendo's output when Shinya Takahashi is the one making the actual decisions.
>>733421125Internally I'm not sure who would have been responsible for this decision, but the internal response was signed by Hermen Hulst.That said though, the closure of Bluepoint now is just the aftermath of the "everyone needs to on GaaS titles" decision years ago.>Hello everyone,>I wanted to share an important update from the Studio Business.>As I mentioned in the December Town Hall, 2025 had some strong highlights within PlayStation Studios. Ghost of Yōtei launched to critical and commercial success, Death Stranding 2: On the Beach further showcased our commitment to narrative excellence, and Helldivers 2 and MLB The Show continue to drive on-going player engagement and revenue.>At the same time, we're operating in an increasingly challenging industry environment. Rising development costs, slowed industry growth, changing player behavior, and broader economic headwinds are making it harder to build games sustainably.>To navigate this reality, we need to continue adapting and evolving. We've taken a close look at our business to ensure we're delivering today while still well-positioned for the future. As a result, we will be closing Bluepoint Games in March.>This decision was not made lightly. Bluepoint is an incredibly talented team and their technical expertise has delivered exceptional experiences for the PlayStation community. I want to thank everyone at Bluepoint for their creativity, craftsmanship, and commitment to quality. Where possible, we will work to find opportunities for some impacted employees within our global network of studios.>While I know this is hard news to hear, I'm confident in the direction we're headed. Creativity, innovation, and building unforgettable experiences for players remain at the heart of PlayStation Studios. We have a robust roadmap for FY26, with much to look forward to in the months ahead.>Thank you for your hard work and continued support.>Best,>Hermen Hulst>CEO, Studio Business Group
>>733420912Nintendo is positioned much better. If you don't understand it then there's no point in discussing this
>>733421420>leaking SIE mailLEAK something Relevant!
>>733421420People on Playstation simply don't buy that many exclusives. It's that simple.
>>733420236Anon, Fromsoft is literally owned by Sony and Tencent. Kadokawa is essentially a mutual fund/holding company for banks and telecom pensions, they don't vote in shareholder meetings. No board action by Sony has ever, once, been overruled by Kadokawa or Tencent voting shares.
>>733396305>get only one successful live service game>it's run by fucking arrowheadI swear someone at sony must have used a monkeys paw for that cosmic middle finger to come to pass.
>>733421125Nishino was promoted to CEO of SIE and he almost certainly would know this was coming, but Hulst was in charge of Playstation Studios since before Jim Ryan left and would've been responsible to not only buying a bunch of studios during Covid, including Bungie, but also fixing this mess now that they're not performing. We could speculate that Nishino is forcing Hulst to make tough decisions, but Hulst should have already been planning on doing that.DESU, I wouldn't be surprised if Hulst eventually leaves Playstation, but not until he's cleaned up his mess he's made.
>>733420236Demon's Souls was janky as fuck. It was only a cult hit.Dark Souls was where they perfected the formula
>>733421480They are both positioned well
>>733421546Feels like you can tell Arrowhead really, REALLY doesn't want to be the Helldivers studio. They way they handle that game is fucking horrendous to the point it feels spiteful.
>>733421710I think it's more that they didn't expect the game to blow up like it did. HD1 was hardly a massive sales success, and Arrowhead really are the "small indie studio" meme despite like 170 employees, so suddenly having to service up to a couple hundred thousand players simultaneously for a live service game meant for maybe a couple years of notable stuff at best, on top of the defunct Stingray Engine shit and a bunch of folks that are notorious for broken ass janky games, they've got to actually do something about those 20 million sales and are hardly fit for the job.
>>733421420>Rising development costs, slowed industry growth, changing player behavior, and broader economic headwinds are making it harder to build games sustainably.How the fuck does he justify Marvel Rivals BTFO'ing his Concord, or Mewgenics getting millions in a week?
>>733421630>Dark Souls was where they perfected the formulaDS3 is basically DeS 2.0 and was used as a base for Elden Ring>Dark Souls 3 brings back the Mana/Focus bar from Demon's Souls instead of the Spell Cast system from DS1>Auto-revival (embering) after a boss (or helping as a phantom)>plus you have the five thrones which are a lot like the portals to the different worlds>A hub system like Demon’s Souls. The Firekeeper is literally the Maiden in black fire defense woman" (火防女) which is also the same term for the Fire Keepers in Dark Souls.>Rolling Functions the same exact way as DeS, because med rolling was buffed so fucking hard that the difference between fast roling and med rolling is so small that staying right under the fat roll minimum is required for every build.>Giving the player character clear motivations up front and keeping the end goal in sight, just like in Demon's Souls>Lothric Castle / Great Archives / Cursed Garden is influenced by Boletaria Castle. The run-up to twin princes being 1-3's run up to Penetrator, the corrupted form of Metas>Irithyll Dungeon does indeed have some heavy Tower of Latria vibes, full of backtracking and going from one side to the other for keys>All of the areas fit together like pieces of a puzzle and how everything came together to form one grand world>Inspired by the great, memorable map designs of Demon's Souls
>>733421359>>733421368>>733421604>Hulst is still in charge of Playstation Studiosthis is so confusing, why have a CEO when he isn't even in charge of the main part of the company
>>733396305financebros still chugging the live service koolaid
>>733422283I don't even know where to start. Are you 12? Sony has a CEO. He's in charge of all of Sony. Sony has like 6 divisions. One of those divisions is Playstation. Nishino is in charge of Playstation. Playstation has like 4 divisions. Hulst is in charge of one of those divisions. That division has like 15 studios. Each studios has one or two people in charge of those studios. Those studios have one or more teams. Someone is in charge of those teams. Those teams have smaller teams inside of them. Those smaller teams have their own leaders. Do you see how this works?
>>733421710Its not spite, well at least not entirely, its the fact that AH really isn't a functional game studio in the traditional sense. They're a bunch of autistic idea guys, who make neat experimental games that they inevitably fuck up because they just can't help themselves. Having a live service game, let alone your only successful live service game, being headed by these chuckle fucks is like is like having the only battered women's shelter in town being run by NBA players.
>>733422384but the big decisions is still under the guy in charge of playstation right? isn't this a major decision that require Nishino approval? this isn't just what games get made, but a whole studio shutting down.
>>733422553>but the big decisions is still under the guy in charge of playstation right?Wrong. The big decisions are under the guy in charge of Sony. This is your retarded logic. You say Nishino is in charge instead of Hulst. Well, Nishino reports to some other guy in charge of all of Sony. Wouldn't you then pass the buck up to the CEO of Sony?
>>733400259>>NOOOOO STOP PUTTING PEOPLE OUT OF WORK>>NOOOOO STOP GIVING PEOPLE SO MUCH WORKThese things aren't contradictory, one is unemployment (no money) and the other is being forced to work free overtime (no money)
>>733422619true, Hiroki Totoki most likely saw this come up then, and signed off
>>733420596Yet the original still looks miles better and more memorable than what the remake produces with current gen hardware.Thats a nice argument, did a redditor give it to you?
>>733423031No, but that still doesn't mean most people wouldn't rather just play the remake. Get over it. The remake is better in pretty much every regard.
>>733423115>The remake is better in pretty much every regard.It's the exact same gameplay with worse aesthetics. Simple math says it's the worse game.
>>733423484So you are just going to ignore the gameplay changes (omnidirectional rolling) among other benefits? Just say you don't have a PS5.
>>733406482Let's give that grin a spin!
Bro, why is it that playing with friends on minecraft bedrock takes a few clicks meanwhile java needs an ip and so much
>>733396305lmao PS realizes that PS5 is all about COD, FIFA, and GTA. That's it.
>>733423769Same as Xbox 360Xbox 360 Top Games of 2012>Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles (based on average UU's per day)Call of Duty: Black Ops IICall of Duty: Modern Warfare 3Halo 4Minecraft: Xbox 360 EditionCall of Duty: Black OpsFIFA Soccer 13FIFA Soccer 12Battlefield 3Halo: ReachCall of Duty: Modern Warfare 2Borderlands 2Assassin's Creed IIISkyrimMadden NFL 13Gears of War 3NBA 2K13NBA 2K12Far Cry 3Grand Theft Auto IVForza Motorsport 4>Top Arcade Titles (Full Versions purchased)Minecraft: Xbox 360 EditionTrials EvolutionThe Walking DeadPinball FX2Counter-Strike: Global OffensiveCastle CrashersGotham City ImpostorsI Am AliveFruit Ninja KinectTony Hawk's Pro Skater HDTrials HDMagic 2013FezDungeon DefendersAlan Wake's American NightmarePeggleThe Simpsons Arcade GameREAL STEELToy Soldiers: Cold WarFull House Poker>Top Indie Games (Full Versions purchased)CastleMiner ZCastleMinerTotal Miner: ForgeAvatar DeathmatchFortressCraft Chapter 1Murder MinersThe Impossible GameAvatar Laser Wars 2The $1 Zombie GameAvatar PaintballAvatar LegendsFortress WarsMiner Of DutyMiner4EverAvatar Laser WarsEnd Of Days: Infected vs MercsToy Stunt Bike 2Flight Adventure 2Don't Die Dateless, Dummy!Block World>Games for Windows Top LIVE Titles (based on average UU's per day)GTA IVDark Souls Prepare to Die EditionAge of Empires OnlineBatman Arkham CitySuper Street Fighter IV Arcade EditionMicrosoft FlightDiRT 3F1 2011Resident Evil 5Fallout 3Batman: Arkham AsylumFable IIIBioshock 2Gotham City ImpostorsColin McRae : Dirt 2BulletstormStreet Fighter X TekkenResident Evil Raccoon CityF1 2010Street Fighter IV
>>733407682Should have committed to proper land whale character design, cowards.
>>733423520>omnidirectional rollingThe original was made with 4 direction roll in mind and I cleared the game just fine with it, why would I give a shit about omnidirectional?>among other benefitsLike what? No amounts of QoL bluepoint put in the remake will redeem them for butchering the OST, the atmosphere, NPC models and player armors.
Americans saboteurs. Glad Sony kicked these subhuman faggots out of the control room.
>>733424002Well you can stay emulating the shitty original while everybody else plays the refined and better remake. Deal?If somebody gives you a PS5, you better not play it.
>>733424067nta but I have a ps5 and didn't buy it bc it's shit
>>733424123Yeah right
>>733401543Bankruptendo first
>>733396305I'm glad blue point is making more crap instead of ruining old games at least
>>733403332>there should be way worse consequences for retarded leadershipThe consequence here is that even if GTA6 makes legendary amounts of money, it means they've hit a ceiling that will never be hit again... UNLESS they make another GTA sequel in 20 years. GTA is the "Infinity War" of AAA gaming. It's not a viable business model to make a once-in-a-decade game that sells well
>>733424002>>733423520You're the kind of person who says Twin Snakes is better than MGS1 because it's graphically flashier and then fails to bring up the butchering of literally everything else from the voice acting to the music.
>>733424354>You're the kind of person who says Twin Snakes is better than MGS1 because it's graphically flashier and then fails to bring up the butchering of literally everything else from the voice acting to the music.You can't compare Twin Snakes or REmake to DeSR.DeSR is the same source code as the original PS3 codebase with a new coat of paint. It was pushed by Sony as a PS5 tech demo showcase.
>>733397031>the innocent smiles on their faces in that photoHoly kek. They had no idea that they got a visit from the Jim Reaper. Someones gotta update the image
>>733396305It's still so funny to me that Concord ended up being the biggest flop of all time because nothing about it suggested it would be a big deal pre-release>game gets announced>looks like DEI-slop>don't even know what the gameplay will be>first previews are shown>gameplay looks mediocre>characters are even worse than expected>pronouns on the character select screen lmao>game gets released>I ignore it like most everyone else>randomly see a steam charts thread>have a laugh at only 2000 peak players>go back to ignoring the game>2 weeks later>it's revealed Concord costed upward of 500 million to develop, was expected to become the next Star Wars, had high-budget animations lined up, was expected to become this thriving live service game despite the upfront cost of entry and that it's already shutting downLegit blew my mind. I would not have believed it if there wasn't a dozen firsthand sources all reporting the same thing
>>733424794Jim is the one who made the 160m PS2s claim. Jimbo knew it would fuck with Nintendo. An absolute badass
>>733404370They're both mentally ill tards. If they were real gamers, they would jump to PC and Nintendo and drop PlayStation and Xbox completely.
>>733424482>This is your fault, by the way, for ever paying for all those microtransactions in such games.I've maxed out every Overwatch 2 cattlepass and I haven't bought a single thing. I do not value cosmetics. I also don't give a fuck about microtransactions if its cosmetics.
>>733424937There were alarm bells blaring when Sega pulled Hyenas 6 months before launch due to lack of interest before Concord came out. Someone must have audited them and realized how fucked it would be to try and market it. And Hyenas had a budget of 'just' 100m dollars.
>>733425596If I had known nothing about the damage caused by Concord I would've thought that Hyenas was the bigger failure. Just looking at the games on the face of it Concord looks like a total nothingburger through and through
>>733398236>Naughty Dog will get shut down toocan't wait for the best fap of my life
>>733424937>2000 peak playersSix hundred ninety seven. Less than 700 peak concurrent players on steam. Highguard literally did 140x better and is still a laughingstock.
>>733407001Both of those games are extremely mature IPs that filled a largely untapped niche at the time.There are no potential profits on the table, only breadcrumbs.Frankly there needs to be a change in the way finance works so that people who have zero fucking clue what they are even talking about cannot force studios to work against the interest of their own products and survival.The ship it now fix it later attitude most studios have is thanks to investors wanting their returns earlier.
And… Sony…Sony… Being the artist that I am, at Sony I’ve generated several billion dollars for Sony, several billon. They really thought that my mind is always on music and dancing. It usually is, but they never thought that this performer — myself — would out think them.So, we can’t let them get away with what they’re trying to do, because now I’m a free agent… I just owe Sony one more album. It’s just a box set, really, with two new songs which I’ve written ages ago. Because for every album that I record, I write — literally, I’m telling you the truth — I write at least 120 songs every album I do. So I can do the box set, just giving them any two songs.So I’m leaving Sony, a free agent,… owning half of Sony! I own half of Sony’s Publishing. I’m leaving them, and they’re very angry at me, because I just did good business, you know.So the way they get revenge is to try and destroy my album! But I’ve always said, you know, art — good art — never dies. …Thank you.And Tommy Mottola is a devil!
>>733404464tlou2 killed a lot of goodwill anon
>>733427173Maybe in the youtuber grifters community
the [GOOD NEWS] is that chasing the live-service dragon will eventually FUBAR the industry, and sour the whole idea, so it's a long-term win.
>>733427482update your resume
>>733397295Are you retarded.
>>733397031>PlayStations Jim Ryan attended a retirement party at London studio 5 days ago.>Today he announced the studios complete shutdown along with 900 jobs900 fucking people, and the last game they put out was 7 years agohow the fuck is this possible? I wonder how many of them were devs and how many middle managment/hr/project manager/lead studio culture
>>733428032>lead studio culturekek
>>733419047>People are starved for AAA open world gamesThese are literally the most common AAA games, even if you exclude Ubisoft.I want more games that take less than 13 hours to finish on a single playthrough.
>>733420627>Very bizarre, risky move on their part.risky for nintendo or for from?if its the latter, i disagree. this is basically a guranteed win for from>make easy exclusivity bucks>experiment with multiplayer mechanics and use the results to improve your mainline games>maximize profits by minimizing budget and throwing together an asset flip game with vague bloodborne appeal
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>>733396591The CEO and everyone who make Bungie Bungie are leaving right after shipping Marathon, so Bungie are pretty much destined to be shutdown too.
>>733426589EVERYBODY WANTIN' A PIECE OF MICHAEL JACKSONREPORTERS STALKIN' THE MOVES OF MICHAEL JACKSON
>>733398236Man, the teaser looked ass and Nu-ghty Dog sucks but at least it felt like it was taking creative risks. I'm pretty sure it's gonna crash and burn but I hope the retards at Sony don't use this as an argument to shut new Singleplayer games down.
>>733397295OverwatchValorantArc RaidersHelldiversDestiny
>>733428583didn't take years for valorant to get a console release?
>>733415319According to their financial statements.
>>733428032>900 people making vr slop and even failing at doing thatDeserved studio cut.
>>733397295Call of Duty MW 2019 / Warzone was specifically designed to prevent you from installing any other game on 500GB PS4 to play it
>>733396305Too late did Sony realize the impossibility of victory
>>733403996None of those will make it tho
>>733419365Wow....a bunch of lidl shovelware that would have sold 200k copies max before forced console bundles and psn+ "sales"...
>>733398236>it bombs>ND goes under>Wolverine game bombs>Insomniac goes underHow long until Sonys gaming division dies after?
>>733420343Looking at Nightreign and Duskbloods it seems obvious to me that they're trying to branch out into genres popular in the mainstream by outright copying mechanics even. This will obviously come with risk attached, because if their traditional fanbase dislikes the extraction slop and the mainstream decides not to give a fuck, a game like Duskbloods will bomb. I assume Nintendo must be giving them a big payday for exclusivity and that money will probably go a long way to decrease the risk they take on. If the game bombs but Nintendo pays them anyway, then they get to do their "appeal to the wider audience" experiment without losing a lot of money.
>>733427482I know /v/ says it all the time but I didn't actually think real shills browsed this board. What's it like knowing everything you touch turns to shit? It must be very frustrating. You will never be a success.
>>733410040And the reason why this happens is because execs dont play video games, dont like video games, have no interest in knowing, liking, or playing video games. So they dont know what their audience want and they dont know what makes a good successful video game. Because they are so far removed from their customers (all multimillionaires enjoying gold, sunbathing on yachts with russian teenage hookers and/or torturing and eating children) that they have no idea what they’re doing. They have so much money that it makes more sense to them to play the corporate game like this instead of educating themselves on what they are selling. We live in a world where the rich have won and now we have to deal with the consequences of their greed, hubris and psychopathy. This translates in basically any market, not just video games.
>>733429859Golf* not gold. Although Im sure they enjoy gold also.
>>733421420>At the same time, we're operating in an increasingly challenging industry environment. Rising development costs, slowed industry growth, changing player behavior, and broader economic headwinds are making it harder to build games sustainably.They made the wrong bet a decade ago, when all the focus went into Western AAA studios who now are crazy expensive considering current development timelines. The modest investment in Stellar Blade had a much higher return on investment then many of their far more expensive Western investments (especially their graveyard of planned live service titles).
>>733407682They turned that Dove commercial into a full game?
>>733396305>twitter threads: >:C>twitter threads but consolewarring for their favorite console: :D
>>733429859You dont have to know gaming to know shit like this just doesnt work. GAAS is an already cornered market and people dont have infinite time or money to play all the new shit. One look at dota and its clones would be enough to tell you shit just doesnt work, you were late to the market and thats it, you missed the gravy train
>>733396305I like how square enix dropped them like a sack of shit as soon as they could and are making all their future games multi plat.Thanks for funding the ff7 remake sony bros!
>>733427482Even the brainless normies like MoistCritikal hated your shit game. Cry louder
>>733428556What "risks" are you talking about? There's no gameplay reveal and by the looks of it it will be just another souls clone
>>733431264Well obviously execs are fucking retards. Simple as.
>>733396526i'm surprised they didn't try to make something shitty like a live service hero shooter game with PS "exclusive" characters like Kratos, Alloy, Ellie and Nigger-Man
>>733434176They were busy making a separate live service slop for each. All but one have been cancelled.
>>733398236Don't threaten me with a good time
>>733396305If Nintendo is the last one left, we're screwed. I don't want to play inferior versions of multiplatform games.
>>733396305WE NEED TO REPLICATE FORTNITE SUCCES EVEN IF IT MEANS WE HAVE TO KILL ALL OF OUR STUDIOS
>gutted japan studio>porting every exlusive to pc (lol)>couldnt port dreams to ps5>couldnt port bloodborne with unlocked framerate>wasted billions on non-halo bungie, one of the biggest waste of capital ever>could have acquired fromsoft for peanuts and passed on it, meanwhile they became the hottest studio around and are now doing exclusive for tendies, one of the biggest failures to invest everits actually a complete mystery how they're still alivemeanwhile sega died when delivering nothing but bangers for the dreamcast back thenmake it make sense
>>733435261>make it make sensethey are a smaller part of a much larger company which is completely dominant in the electronics industry
>>733435261>Sony>Multimedia company>Sega>Only a video game company that routinely makes retarded decisionsBeats me >bangerYou're not using that word correctly, mutt
>>733435000>dem quadsimagine if nintendo makes a rather successful gaas like a hero shooter game with nintendo characters...
>>733428941Insomniac's licensing agreement with Marvel has a clause that it can be terminated early if their games sell poorly enough. Here's hoping.
It was obvious Sony would be fucking up this gen as well with that fucking Horizon-lover cocksucker at helm.>Hmm Japan studios? No.. I think we need more Horizon!
>>733435261>its actually a complete mystery how they're still aliveThey made the dominant console for multiplats so they get a cut out of most video games sold. Xbone was a turd that blatantly performed worse than PS4 so PS4 became the default console for AAA multiplats that didn't run on Nintendo consoles. If you wanted to play RDR2 for instance, and you weren't already a fanboy for any particular platform, you bought a PS4 to play it.That was supplemented by a handful of decent exclusives like Spider-Man and Dad of Boy. It wasn't much, but together with a good version of most multiplats, it was enough.Xbox has been a joke since 2013 and Nintendo is recovering, but they're still the underpowered console for kids and casuals that's a full generation behind the competition.Developers may be moving towards Steam Deck and Switch 2 as lead platforms to cope with the high-end hardware crisis, but it takes time to pivot. Someone who wants to be able to play GTA6 when it comes out can buy a PS5 today and it will also play most notable games released in the last 10 years.That's why PlayStation is still alive.
It's fucking incredible that this all started with Destiny when the reaction to Desitny was "wow this sucks but they made Halo so it has to get better later, right?" This entire trend was built on the good nature of a better game and every studio has been chasing that dragon since.
>>733397031>>733420489He's done this before, it seems like he visits the studio to see what they're working towards next and is closing down whatever doesn't have a solid vision. He DID do this to Media Molecule, but whatever it is they're working on was enough to keep them alive because they did not close it down
>>733412059That's what happens to all companies in the entertainment sector when they get too large. They become scared of flops and try to play it safe by chasing trends. But behemoths move too slowly for that and so trend-chasing doesn't work long term.I see it happen rn at my place of work.
>>733403791No one is buying third party games on Nintendo systems. If you do the math only 9 million third party software was sold across ALL games on Switch 2
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>>733436682Best place to buy multiplats now because it's a hybrid
>>733435261>its actually a complete mystery how they're still aliveNo it isn't. Sony is the default console. Almost every major game not published by Nintendo comes on their platform. Even when Concord flopped, they had a good year because they released Stellar Blade and Black Myth Wukong came out. Sony just gets all the games. They can also easily port to PC because first party games were never the main draw. The whole reason Ryan did the push for live services (as dumb as it was) was because games too too long and they saw how much money they were making with Gensin and Fortnite. The only way Sony dies is if people give up on consoles all together.
>>733428941After the spider man so not in our lifetime they can always 'try"
>>733426589>bixonakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>733435261>meanwhile sega died when delivering nothing but bangers for the dreamcast back thenTruth
>>733428032>>733428659>900 fucking people, and the last game they put out was 7 years ago>900 people making vr slopIt was 900 people total who were laid off across various studios at the time that London Studios was closed, not 900 people who worked at London Studios.https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-68404704>Sony has announced it will lay off 8% of PlayStation employees globally, amounting to approximately 900 people.>According to LinkedIn, [London Studios] has between 51 and 200 employees, and it was working on "an unannounced online co-op combat game" set in London before the announcement.
>>733420573Dreams for PC? But I thought the PS4 version already lost/ended update support
>>733436769LOL this looks like the konami graph where you can pinpoint the exact moment kojimbo was kicked off for being a hollywood asslicking, moneyburnig leech.
>>733436983You are right about their business model but that's why the live push is so stupid.Their model is to make most of their money by getting a cut of popular games. The games they make on their own are designed to fill in gaps or be some kind of prestige game to get attention and draw customers. By going after the live audience they are no longer using their games to drive console sales and thus get a piece of the popular games but instead attack get that pie for themselves. I see why they would want that money but by going after the Live business, which is essentially all or nothing for success, they hurt console sales when they don't succeed and are attacking a business they technically should already have a cut of if they can remain the 'default' console.
>>733398236Oh yeah this will flop hard
>>733427482Kill yourself retard
>>733398236>We might see Naughty Dog and Bungie shutter within a couple years of each other.God PLEASE make this happen. Let Intergalactic flop right out of the gate and close BOTH in the same year. GOD IF YOU CAN HEAR MY PRAYER MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
>>733426186Thar's 700 players that bought a copy of Concord for $40 each though. I seriously doubt even 700 people have actually bought skins or in game currency in Highguard which is F2P
>>733396305You're posting Twitter screenshots and not getting your entire ISP banned from 4chan.To me that seems like an administration problem.
>>733421973they could've released a game with a built in and automated system for keeping track of sieges and handling some kind of loose narrative rather than trying to tell a fucking story through weeklong HD2 campaigns that doesn't even reflect player actions
>>733422075the same way any retarded narcissist does
>>733396305>Forcing Bluepoint to toil in live-service hell and then executing them as punishment for defacing multiple masterpiecesWtf, Sony is based?
>>733397031>thank_you_jim_cookie.jpg
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>>733398236Please cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>733396305>closing Bluepoint downThat was the only good decision they made
>>733396305I find it hilarious that people know Bluepoint can't make anything on their own and just wanted them to continue making mediocre demakes
>>733396305I'm tired of seeing "Sony did this, Microsoft did that".No, it was their executive who did it, and who never get any consequences for their actions.If this was a fair world, Jim Ryan and that other retard who pushed so much for Concord should be fired, have all their properties confiscated, blacklisted from any industry and forced to sell their organs in the Dark Web to survive.
>>733442919The other retard is herman hulst who was basically jimbo's protege, after jimbo left hulst got made PS ceo and then got "demoted" to co-ceo with other Asian dude, concord was hulst magnum opus.
>>733398236I doubt it, they have the power of shlomo on their side
>>733396305>Making Bluepoint do live service>instead of another remake of a game people loveIs the concept of a new videogame unconceivable for these consoomer tards?
>>733396305>Wtf is happeningSony are retarded. As usual.
>>733396305>panders to minorities>majority doesnt buyits called math
>>733443841>A new videogame? Single Player at that? But that carries unacceptable risk!
>>733403791>A MEGA PINT?that trial was the funniest shit
Tendies concern trolling on their toasters
>>733436682>no physical>you can either buy digital for more than elsewhere with no cross save>or a game key card with the inconvenience of both and none of the advantages
>>733428032Erica mentioned!!!I really like FMVs and all kind of cinematic cyoa.I did a single playthough and managed to kill every black character in the game. Kino. I love when my choices do matter.
>>733407682They killed that chink Horizon/MonHun knockoff for this.
>>733420343Then they don't get to play it :)
>>733398236Even if Intergalactic sells millions, it will not be enough for the greedy cunts above. They'll just continue to glance over at live-service revenue and write it off as a failure anyways. There's no way for this game to win, not even if they gave the girl a wig.
When Gabe dies the whole vidya industry is screwed. >Muh physical All consoles had the ability to make on disk no patch required games and didn't, even Nintendo now. Steam is the most and only consumer friendly medium.
>>733396305But somehow, that hideous Horizon GaaS game made it through these cuts and got greenlit for launch? Sony has some of the dumbest fuckers on the planet working for them.
>>733444821Dumb steamie
>>733444895It wasn't cancelled because Horizon is a proven IP that's shipped morbillions of copies!Don't ask how many of them were given away for free, that's antisemitic.
>>733444821>All consoles had the ability to make on disk no patch required games and didn't, even Nintendo nowwhat?
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these guys are all plants. the united states was afraid of the japanese influencing american culture, and so microsoft has been trying to dejapanese sony since the 90s. they won so bad they're basically abandoning the xbox because it has outlived its purpose. every sony exec has gone to a western university
>>733444895Better yet, there are two horizon gaas, the MH clone and an MMO like called Horizon Steel Frontiers.
>>733396305>Last of Us multiplayer cancelledGood.>Naughty Dog are almost skipping an entire generationGood.>Biggest flop ever in all of gaming with ConcordGood.>Multiple live service games cancelledGood.>wasting time and closing studiosGood.>Making Bluepoint do live serviceGood.>instead of another remake of a game people loveGood. If people already love the game, why does it need a (worse) remake?>and then closing them downUnfathomably based, rare sony W frfr.
>>733396305>Wtf is happening bros???It's the inevitable fate of every publicly traded company.The moment you have to answer to your shareholders, "we are making some profits" is no longer good enough. You need revenue and profit growth, year after year.Eventually you will have saturated your market and then you'll have to go for more and more retarded stunts to try and somehow grow it anyway, until the whole construct has become so fragile it just collapses.
if i was in charge of sony it would be a superpower bigger than the US
>>733446094Oh yeah? What's your trillion dollar idea, buddy?