What the fuck is even going on here? Why does Seph look like that? Where is this fight taking place? Why does he blow up the solar system?
>>733670971>>>/vr/
>>733671110You will NEVER be a janny. It's a dogshit job without pay, yet they still don't want you.
>>733670971It's never explained. Half the story is not fucking explained. OGfags get upset when FF tries to explain itself like Rebirth does.Sephi in his ugly form is probably a twisted version of a Weapon, that's more clear now than it used to be back then. What that form is, not quite sure. It might be a twisted form of what Minerva is. That entire concept is also completely absent from the original.Barely explaining shit is for From games but not for story heavy JRPGs. Just makes your game look rushed and unfinished.
Why all the VII threads?
>>733671618>Why would people want to talk about one of the most popular and beloved games of all time?It's a mystery.
>>733671618spamming boomers who are too petty to just post on /vr/
>>733671760Don't get me wrong I love the gameBut damn there's been a lot of threads today with a VII screenshot asking a question about the gameI'm noticing
It's cuz Kefka did it first, so Sephi copied him.
>>733671828>noticing
>>733670971One Winged Angel is Uematsu's magnum opus
I thought FFVII was cool, but wtf, it's literally commie propaganda.
>>733670971Sephiroth doesn't exist by that point. The entire final series of battles is Cloud fighting against himself.
>>733670971>What the fuck is even going on here? Why does Seph look like that?He has emerged from the Sephiroth Rebirth (Bizarro) cocoon and he and Jenova have evolved into a new being together. Sephirothnova wants to become the embodiment of the Planet by taking all of the Lifestream, and thus all of mankind and its history, into himself. So he takes the form of a god-like being because that's how he sees himself.>Where is this fight taking place?At the Planet's core. When you're in the Lifestream your surroundings can change based on mental influence, such as when Cloud fell in and he and Tifa were wandering their memories.>Why does he blow up the solar system?It's metaphorical.
>>733670971>What the fuck is even going on here? We're fighting Sephiroth at his peak to stop him and Jenova.>Why does Seph look like that? Because he's half Jenova lifeform and they get all freaky.>Where is this fight taking place?In the core of the planet.>Why does he blow up the solar system?He doesn't. It's a stylish vision of the ultimate apocalypse which Sephiroth could bring about. Sephiroth is showing everyone a vision of apocalypse, of absolute, star-destroying power, of the futility of their efforts, and the reason this is percentage-based damage is because it's not actually directly hurting everyone - it's attacking their souls, their spirit, their resolve. Driving them to the brink of despair, but it can't actually kill them, merely drive them to their knees where they either manage to stand up and affirm their resolve or perish unable to bring up the courage to defend against the next attack.It's consistent with Remake and Advent Children Sephiroth showing visions of apocalypse and promising to offer people Despair, at the very least.
>>733672154>avoided getting brainwashed by political propaganda another zoomer victory
>>733671904thats kefka becoming a god thanks to the triad magic
>>733672787which makes no fucking sense btw
jrpgs always devolve into>gotta kill god
>>733672154>>733672769
>>733672820How does it not make sense? The Warring Triad are deities, he stole their power, he becomes the god of magic in their place.
>>733673048How the fuck did he steal their power? They broke the deadlock, the Warring Triad should have immediately gone to beating the shit out of each other like they were doing before. Dude was at the epicenter of an eternally exploding magic nuke and somehow managed to gain its power. It's never explained how the hell he did that.
>>733673501>How the fuck did he steal their power?Did your eyes glaze over during that scene? He stood in the middle of their flowing energy.>Dude was at the epicenter of an eternally exploding magic nukeIt wasn't a nuke that they were just passing between each other, it was the energy of magic itself. The Triad wasn't fighting when they created that arrangement, they locked themselves into a stasis that maintained the power of magic because they realized the level of destruction their war was causing.
>>733673501likely the same way he turned about a dozen espers into magicite after he killed General Leo
>>733670971>1 winged angel>has 5 wings
>>733670971He mutated himself
>>733674316>Kefka isn't a threat because he got his godlike power unexpectedlyMaybe you're just fucking stupid, you ever think of that?
>>733673501Same way Kefka wins anything in FFVI- sheer force of plot armor, anon. Same way literally everyone in Doma drank the poisoned water in perfect sync and went blind so they couldn't notice it was fucking purple.
>>733670971The one wing is indicative of his incompleteness despite apparently reaching godhood. Other games forget this though. Cloud defeats sephiroth because Cloud overcomes his coping mechanisms whereas Sephiroth does not
>>733674414>ooh grape koolaid!
>>733673809That's retarded. If standing there in the middle of their conflict is all it takes to steal their power then Kefka didn't do anything. He just got handed godlike power for no reason. It completely undermines the character of both him and the Triad. He was having a mental breakdown that arbitrarily gave him godhood. It could have literally been anyone and makes the Warring Triad a bunch of retards who could have lost all their power if anyone happened to be standing around while they were fighting.
>>733670971 that's not Sephiroth per-se, that's just his body controlled by Jenova, he died in the events of 5 years ago and you never face Sephiroth in the game
>What's going onPunching him>Why does he look like thatHe used Jenova to rebuild his fucked up body to look divine>Where's it taking placeShut up>SupernovaIt's an illusory attack showing the destruction of everything, not actually happening
>>733674409If Sephiroth awakened his strength from finding a random Materia in the ground that gave him all his powers that would completely undermine any actual seriousness or threat of the character, yes, because suddenly he's not someone with agency who is contrasting the protagonists he's just someone who got handed a plot coupon
>>733674578Sephiroth mantled Jenova, it's why the reunion happened at the northern crater instead of where Jenova's biggest chunk was in Midgar
>>733674578I think you do see Sephiroth, just not in this fight. You see him in Disc 2. He's a consciousness being emulated by Jenova like software, it's also how you have the final fight with him; Jenova is sending that consciousness into Cloud as a final hail mary
>>733674568>It completely undermines the character of both him and the Triad.Neither of them have any character. The Triad are just lore props and the whole point of Kefka is that he has no real goal or any reason for doing anything at all.>It could have literally been anyoneBut it was Kefka. See >>733674409>>733674681Sephiroth isn't Kefka. Sephiroth's character is about his narcissism. Kefka is about having no purpose. That is how he opposes the party, because they all have to find a reason to fight and he never finds anything. He has nothing and nothing he does has any real end goal. Randomly leaping on an opportunity for power like that just for shits and giggles exactly fits his character and the main themes of the game. You are just fucking STUPID.
>>733671110>>>RedditI love people who needlessly police others. You're all so deliciously up your own ass and you can't handle being challenged in the least. Let the people who work here jandle it. What the fuck are you doing? lol
>>733674856Kefka very obviously has reasons to do what he does. They're shitty reasons, but they are reasons. Nihilism, powertripping and petty sadism are his reasons. He is a product of the Empire's experiments.
>>733674856Literally everything could have been solved by simply making the experiment a magitek way of hijacking the Triad. Then he hijacks it in turn and gains its power.A character randomly getting a powerup that they didn't earn and that explicitly contradicts what we were told before (that the Warring Triad would go back to fighting if freed and that they were trying to do that) is simply bad writing.
>>733674937>Kefka very obviously has reasons to do what he does.He doesn't.>Nihilism, powertripping and petty sadism are his reasons.Those aren't reasons. Those are character traits, they're not reasons for doing anything. He doesn't have a goal in mind when he steals the Warring Triad's power. He just does it because it seems like a good idea at the time. That's what he does for the entire game, he never has a real reason for anything. That's why he flies into a rage when the party confronts him with all their own reasons for living, things he never found.
>>733675087>the story would have been different if it was differentRiveting analysis there, but you have to come to terms with being a retard.>A character randomly getting a powerup that they didn't earn... is simply bad writing.How? Why is that bad writing? Kefka is petty and aimless. He's a psycho with no purpose. A power he didn't earn fits him perfectly, and it fits the themes of the game. It contrasts with Terra too, who also didn't earn her power but kept it in check until she found something to wield it for. You are dumb. You have to accept it.
>>733675087see >>733674139, he's instantly turning espers into magicite which are basically physical totems of magical power
>>733675087>entire plot of the game up to that point is about the empire stealing magic power from magic creatures>an imperial steals magic power from big magic creatures and everything goes tits up>"WTF THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHERE'D THE STORY GO?!"
>it's been 30 years and people still don't comprehend the story
>>733670971>What the fuck is even going on here?They're all fighting to the death before Seph can cause the apocalypse.>Why does Seph look like that?His body is made of Jenova cells. He can take any form he fucking wants.>Where is this fight taking place? Why does he blow up the solar system?Illusions caused by his immense power. They're all in the Northern Crater still, that bigass open wound in the planet.
>>733675101Are you retarded? Everything he does through most of the game has reasons. He is general of the Empire's army and his actions are either direct commands from Gestahl or obviously intended to advance the Empire's cause. You're genuinely just wrong. "Kefka didn't have a reason to do anything" is the most retarded shit FF fans parrot, next to "he was a comic relief nobody." He is the general of the Empire's armies and his actions are all made in direct persuit of the Empire's victory. Kefka is a loyal general whose mind broke years ago under the strain of Magitek infusion. But no matter his madness, Kefka was always loyal to Gestahl, understanding his true nature and lack of scruples better than Leo or Celes ever did. He attacks Gestahl because he is obviously having a total mental breakdown after Celes stabbed him. He's losing it because he is a rabid attack dog who needs to be put down, not because he's doing it for fun.
>>733672014It's probably not even in his top thirty. Secondly Those Chosen By the Planet is Sephiroth's best theme.
>>733675460Better play it one last time before they draft you, Ivan.
>>733675480>He attacks Gestahl because he is obviously having a total mental breakdownYour imagination isn't canon, thankfully.>no matter his madness, Kefka was always loyal to GestahlExcept for the times when he wasn't, like the moment in question here, sure. The game isn't really subtle about its themes. There's an entire speech directly before you fight Kefka that screams it in your ears. The game is about finding a purpose in life. Thus, Kefka has no purpose. He doesn't even care to keep being a god, he gets bored of that because it's not actually what he wanted at all. He believes life is meaningless because he can't find any meaning. You should play the game and read the text that's there in the text box instead of imagining mental breakdowns.
>>733674578>>733674775Sephiroth and Jenova are the same being. Sephiroth was adopted into Jenova as her brain and her will. Safer is the new evolution of the two.>Jenova Birth>Life>Death>Sephiroth Rebirth
>>733672014Nigga it gets shown up in its own game by JENOVA and I'm tired of Kingdom Hearts fans sucking the song's dick
>>733676053Kefka literally starts screaming and babbling and crying in the ground after Celes stabs him. You should try playing the game too
>>733676361>Kefka literally starts screaming and babbling and crying in the ground after Celes stabs him.He gets angry at CELES which is completely irrelevant to him killing Gestahl. He doesn't kill Gestahl because getting stabbed mindbroke him. He's only angry at Celes. Here, I've included everything that proves you're a fucking moron. You can shut up now.
>>733670971First Final Fantasy, anon? Unless you're taking the notes while you play, there's no way you can even come close to understanding what the fuck is happening, but even if you take notes, it's always going to end with the protagonists in some extraplanar arena fighting the deification of an abstract concept in the guise of some other character spewing tentacles and wings and shit.
>>733676524Wow, a bunch of shit that doesn't prove the point and some shit that isn't in the game..
>>733676928That's the Ultimania, and everything there is in the game. Concession accepted, you can just stop posting now. There aren't any usernames on this website so you can just turn tail and hide and nobody will ever know how dumb you actually are.
