zooms are about to hop into worse than dragon quest tier grinding
how about just.....not obtaining it
>>733772929The oldest zoomers grew up on the GBA + DS games.
>>733772963GOTTA catch em all. It is not a suggestion it is an order
>>733772981zoomers literally consider those to be "unc" systems. you have no idea what you're talking about
>>733773016You can't convince me kids, gay and retarded as they may be now, care about upwards of 700+ objectively shit designs.
>wild, fully-evolved pseudosSoulless.>b-but they did it in gen 5!Again, soulless.
15% isn't bad at all, you can find one in 5 minutesthe real annoying part is the level 55 evolution, because by the time i finished the entire game my dragonair was barely level 48
>>733773053Almost all zoomers are 18+ now and the internet is infested with gen A teenagers spouting that shit. (You) have no idea you're talking about.
>>733773053Anon... look up which year "zoomers" started.
>>733773225zoomer = young person
>>733773225This desuyo. It's not 2018 anymore.
>>733773053Wrong, zoomers make up a significant percentage of 6th gen kids. Cubies and GBA kids in particular are overwhelmingly zoomers, which is why their tastes are completely backwards and retarded and they tranny out so much.
>>733773262>bro you have to follow this generation framework made by jews no. do you think boomer also literally means baby boomer when used in an online context?
>>733772929>rare spawnThat's pretty vague. How rare? If it's rare enough the method on the right could be just as bad or worse than the left.
>>733773053There are zoomers turning 30 this year, you moron. I, Zoomer 28, played Gameboy and Gen 1 Pokemon. Faggot retard
>>733772929As who completed the Pokédex back in the RGBY days, the new system is a natural evolution. There are far more Pokémon nowadays, you can't compare getting 150 Pokémon to 400+.Not to mention some of the gimmicks get annoying over time. Like having to trade Graveler, Machoke, Haunter, Kadabra every generation. Then Scyther, Onix, Poliwhirl, Slowbro, Seadra, Porygon in Gen 2, etc. I appreciate them giving us the chance to capture them fully evolved in the more recent games. Or the linking cord in Arceus.
>>733773316Not rare at all, there are static encounters for it that respawn every couple ingame days.
>>733772929>he gets filtered by grinding for dragonite in FR/LGAs long as you remember to:>Save your rare candies>remember this is pre physical/special split (and dragon attacks are special based)>you consider dragonite's nature and place on the team>DO NOT EVOLVE DRAGONAIR UNTIL LEVEL 56, IT GETS OUTRAGE MUCH EARLIER IF YOU WAIT UNTIL THENyou'll be fine.
>>733773390>typography not aligned properlywhat the fuck is going on over there
>>733773056Not a problem, they don't even let you catch that many in one game any more.
>>733773053My zoomer.nelhew just graduated from his master's of engineering.
>>733773290ThisZoomers are retarded niggers that started with the DS.Alphas actually like gameplay unlike OP, they will enjoy the ride of obtaining a pseud-legendary like Dragonite
>>733773812SAR YAS SAR MASTE RNEGENEERING SARIndian schools are worthless.
>>733773903We're both white with blue eyes. Are you okay?
>>733773016Except they're not all in the game to be caught. Using Red/Blue as an example: Some can only be handed to you instead of caught (e.g. Lapras). And some can only be bought (e.g. Porygon). And some can only be traded from NPCs (e.g. Mr Mime, Jynx). And some can only be obtained from item conversions (e.g. Kabuto, Omanyte). And some can only be picked up from the overworld (e.g. starter Eevee).
>>733773053Ima keep it a buck lil bro we call those unc systems to make people like you feel bad for being old and make us feel younger but we most definitely played them growing up... lmao.
When was the last time you were able to 'catch them all'We've quickly approached and blew past monster saturation and have wrapped back around to basically recreating previous pokemon with a new look. Here's your bat pokemon, here's your moth pokemon, what's that? You think there should be a lightning bug pokemon because it just makes sense? Haha here's another bat pokemon, oh here's a grass pokemon that's totally a lightning bug hahaseriously though who the fuck cares about 1000 different pokemon and now the different versions of them, should've stayed with ~400-500 tops and different versions of these pokemon. You can't put the genie back in the bottle and this 'WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP ADDING MORE NEW POKEMON' idea is going to ruin pokemon. We're already on fan art tier pokemon getting added to the game, what's next, spore creature creator but it's for pokemon?
>>733773628Slow Level 56(Dragonite) is the equivalent of a Medium Fast Level 60 or Medium Slow Level 61 mon.>IT GETS OUTRAGE MUCH EARLIER IF YOU WAIT UNTIL THENOutrage is bad in FRLG. It is only slightly stronger than Dragon Claw, at the cost of locking you in and confusing you, making it worse. And Dragon Claw is weak enough that non-STAB Earthquake and Return are stronger.Fly is as strong as Outrage on Gen 3 Dragonite.
>>733774260>You can't put the genie back in the bottle and this 'WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP ADDING MORE NEW POKEMON' idea is going to ruin pokemon.You said this 18 years ago and it had always proven you wrong.
>>733774260>When was the last time you were able to 'catch them all'Depends.If you mean catch every available Pokemon up to that point? Never, without glitches.If you meant catch everything available in that game? Legends Arceus is the only time.
i never liked dragonite because its wings look too small compared to its body to be able to fly
>>733774305outrage is only bad if you don't have a persim/lum berry or a bad nature for special attacks. I agree that a physical dragonite would be better for a casual playthrough though.
>>733773390pretty much this
>>733774305>And Dragon Claw is weak enough that non-STAB Earthquake and Return are stronger.STAB Dragon Claw is 120 BP vs Earthquake's 100 and Return's 102.
I've been walking through Viridian forest for an hour now.Where the fuck is my Pikachu?
FR/LG have the best training spots in all of pokemon.
>>733774379Outrage is bad because it's a 10-point damage increase for a big downside. Even Dragon Fang Dragon Claw basically matches the damage of Outrage. Rampage moves were hilariously weak in early gens.>>733774453Dragonite's attack is 34 points higher than its special attack.
>>733772929Any pokemon game where you can't catch base forms of every Pokémon before the 4th gym is trashThe entire point is to go on an adventure with your favorites, it never feels good to catch a level 45 pokemon on victory road like 20 minutes before the end of the game
I'm not paying $20 for a ROM that should have been put on NSO for free.
>>733774534the only problem is that dragon claw is a TM you can't get until victory road in fr/lg, and the only way to get a dragon fang in gen 3 is to catch a dragonair (1% encounter rate in the safari zone with the super rod) which has a 5% chance of holding one.
>>733773817Its amazing how Ive seen this exact same argument like 5 years ago.>millenials are fags that only like movie games>zoomers actually like games like minecraft and fortniteZoomers are just getting "old" now and are starting to get made fun of by Alphababbys, the same thing will happen to alphas in 10ish years when beta's get old enough, etc.
>>733774943All true, late zoomers wrestled gameplay back into focus, even if half the shit to come out of that sentiment wasn't any good (BOTW).
>>733772929Level 55 isn't hard to get in pokemon tho? Wut
>>733773058>muh soul
>>733775009It is, fucking griding with wild pokémon
>>733772929God damn dratini and nair gets no exp at all, to hell with those freaks
>>733775000>delusional zoomcuckI'm tired of this combo.
>>733775068FRLG added the Vs Seeker.
>>733775019It's sad seeing it leave so many IPs
>>733775068It isn't though? The fuck? That's basically admitting you have trouble beating the elite four lmao. Most people do that shit when they're 8.
To be fair, levelling up Dragonair was a total pain.
>>733775000>its true because it benefits my generationNo retard, normalfags are what dictates this shit. Do you think most millenials that grew up gaming their entire childhood liked movie shit? No. They got drowned out by normalfags. Movie games gained traction when normalfags started getting into the medium. Normalfags were the ones getting tricked by muh graphix and being ok with trailers instead of demos. And then the normalfag, retarded as they are, slowly figured out that muh graphix and muh movies arent that fun and slowly shifted to prefering gameplay after getting burned for the 23675216th time
>>733773309words mean things wether you like it or not
>>733775376Different pokemon level up at different rates dumbass. It takes 90k more exp to level a Dragonite to max level as opposed to your starter, and you dont get a Dratini until much later so it feels even slower.
>>733772929Can you stream your suicide please?Or, you only wanted to shitpost and getting approve messages inside your hugbox?
>>733775748>watching streamssounds pretty gay to me desu senpai
>>733773346stop lying, Pokemon Gen 1 was around 97-99, you didn't play shit besides your smartphone
>>733775097Millennial, keep trying.>>733775424>Do you think most millenials that grew up gaming their entire childhood liked movie shit?I fucking lived it, I know. FMV, FF7, HL, Halo, Uncharted, TLOU, the Bioware abominations, all of it. There was always demand.
>>733775376>Anon wants to use Dragonite, has to grind an underleveled mon with slow exp that doesn't even turn out that good back in FRLG>8-year old blasts through game with overleveled, fast-leveling starterAll three Starters in FRLG are better for in-game runs than Dragonite even at equal level, just to add insult to injury.
>>733775869NTA but I'm a 27 yo zoomer and started playing games on snes when I was like 3. Literally everyone I know played gba and ds and even older consoles growing up. You're a fucking moron.
>>733775926>FF7, HL, HaloPredominantly gameplay>Uncharted, TLOU, the Bioware abominationsMovie games, when the normalfags started heavily getting into the medium
>>733775869>nooo you can't play old games noooooI never said I played them on release. I played them around 04-05.Faggot retard
>>733775582and? I still did this shit when I was 8 with no issue lmao. >>733775992At 8 most kids have full parties of their favorite pokemon max leveled without even thinking about team comp or anything lmao.You guys just sound really pathetic right now lmao.
This wasn't even that bad, trying to catch a feebas and doing that shit with poffins in one game was way worse.
>>733775748That's dragonair you fucktard, not dragonite
>>733772929so no grinding whatsoever
>>733773053That's Gen A. I'm Gen Z and grew up playing GBA+GC well into 2010.
>>733772929It's really not that bad the fuck are you talking about? It takes no time to get I. Safari zone then you slap exp share on it and ignore it for a couple hours
>>733776289>At 8 most kids have full parties of their favorite pokemon max leveled without even thinking about team comp or anything lmao.Laughable.They have their overleveled favorite(starter, in 99% of cases) and 5 underleveled randos.It's the older fans that actually train their full teams.
>Game CornerOh, he doesn't know
>>733773268zoomer = uncalphies are the new young
>Gen 1Safari Zone bullshit>Gen 2Most of the good Gen 2 Pokemon are in the postgameRoaming dogs>Gen 3Feebas on 6 tiles Roar glitch on the roaming dogs on FR/LGRoaming Lati@s>Gen 4Feebas on 4 tilesMunchlax on Honey Trees>Gen 5Underleveled grass shaking Metang and Metagross>Gen 6Nothing, the beginning of the end>Gen 7SOS battles, finding 1% and weather specific spawns (most notably an extremely underleveled Salamence and a lvl 40~ Volcarona)>Gen 8Nothing>Gen 9Gimmighoul and evolving it
>>733772929Porygon is worse, there's also no missingno to create infinite nuggets to just buy all the chips to get it
>>733776674This is why roms will always be superior
>Nice fulfilling task in a game where the whole point of post game is finding worthwhile stuff to do.>Boring effortless shit that bypasses the need for the pre evos to even exist
>>733776674>Most of the good Gen 2 Pokemon are in the postgameJust Houndoom and Misdreavus.
>>733772929>tfw all this bitching when I just went fishing in a statue for free
>>733776887Sneasel, LarvitarThen there's trash like Murkrow and Slugma stuck in Kanto
>>733776625lmfao what the fuck are you talking about, sure the starter is like always 10 levels higher than everything else but you're not going to beat the elite four just with a starter and no type matches. The fuck are you talking about "older fans" pokemon is a game for kids and kids have no issues beating it.
>>733776289>and? I still did this shit when I was 8 with no issue lmao.Its not that its hard, its that leveling up a Dratini 40 fucking levels that late in the game on pokemon that give 50exp on average is extremely tedious and time consuming>well I did it as a kid!Good for you, you likely had literally nothing else to do because you didnt have much other vidya to play and you had infinite time as a kid. That doesnt mean it was fun or even the norm for kids to do this for the elite 4. By the time you had a Dratini, you either had a full team already or were unga bungaing with an overleveled starter
>>733776952Sneasel was awful in gen 2.
>>733776964>lmfao what the fuck are you talking about, sure the starter is like always 10 levels higher than everything else but you're not going to beat the elite four just with a starter and no type matches.....You didnt play the game.
>>733776952>SneaselCrystal fixed that (like most of gs's encounter issues).That game has fantastic pokemon distribution unless you hate the fact some pokemon are kanto-only.
>>733776964>you're not going to beat the elite four just with a starter and no type matchesGen 4, 5 and 6 are literally famous for allowing you to just use starter to clear entire game and ignore the type.It took them until SM to make type matter again
>>733777103>Gen 4, 5, and 6It’s literally every Gen before the exp share lol
>>733776964Gen 1 is easy with them all.Gen 2... probably not meganium.Gen 3 onwards it's just braindead to do so.
>>733776887slugma, magcargo, larvitar, murkrow, steelix, scizor, sneasel, porygon 2, blissey honorable mentions for gligar, teddiursa and skarmory for only being available after the 8th badge
>>733777051Gen 2's biggest issue with distribution was locking a lot of Pokemon behind 1% encounter rates in order to promote outbreaks, but those Pokemon are pretty shit in their introduction so it's not a massive issue.
>>733776964>sure the starter is like always 10 levels higher than everything else but you're not going to beat the elite four just with a starter and no type matchesIt is literally optimal to do this lmao. Like outside of glitches, that is the fastest way to beat the game and the elite 4. You have infinite access to potions, you just need to not be completely walled. Shit like water, fire, or grass was not nulled out by anything, so as long as they could survive a hit and you had PP restoring stuff (plentiful), you can very, very easily press A to win with an over leveled starter. Gen 1 was also bulky because there was no cap on EVs, so you had max invested defenses, HP, and offense by Elite 4.
>>733777171>steelix, scizor,Technically, no.And since you are bringing up trade evos, blissey doesn't count because you can just trade your chansey from RBY and evole it.
>>733776952steelix, scizor, porygon 2 and blissey are also stuck in postgame and those are all amazing pokemon
>>733777171>honorable mentions for gligar, teddiursa and skarmory for only being available after the 8th badgeYou can catch them after you get StrengthJust go back to the Dark Cave entrance near Violet City when you catch Dunsparce in the dark
>>733777181>because there was no cap on EVsTo clarify, what I meant was that you could full invest 255 into every stat so there was no reason to glass canon. So if you ungabunga'd you had max investment by the endgame because the starter got it naturally by killing everything
>>733777171You can get Teddiursa early in Crystal.
>>733777272>steelix, scizor,Just grind your magnemites.
>>733776674To me, getting Spiritomb in D/P always felt like esoteric Bill's Garden type shit except it was real.
>>733777265>Technically, no.Technically yes, they are only available in the post-game since they cannot evolve until you get the metal coat, which you can only get from SS Aqua, Power Plant or wild Magnemite, all of which are postgame And trade doesn't count here, by that logic no pokemon is in postgame because you can just trade a slugma
>>733775000>late zoomers wrestled gameplay back into focusEat shit nigger zoomer. I hope you kill yourself when you realize you have no future.You ruined gaming, 4chan, everything EVERYTHING
>>733777365>all of which are postgame>MAGNEMITEThanks for confirming you didn't play gen 2?That game has a whole fucking route plagued with them.
>>733777365Magnemite is not postgame. You can get it before fighting Morty.
>>733777365>Technically yeswrong it does not have to be your metal coatstop being emotional and spouting false statements and think
>>733777171Gen 2 do be garbage like that
>>733777332Yeah forgot about Spiritomb as wellBDSP didn't make it any easier either, ORAS was the easiest to acquire one
>>733773053That's Alpha. Time is passing millenial.
>>733777524>trying to get alphas to do the zoomutt tribalization that zoomers donot gonna happen.
Slugma frankly is the most egregiously stupid placement of any wild encounter in any pokemon game everIt's not a good pokemon by anyone's standards, but that's fine, plenty of games have mediocre pokemon that still see use because they're early game optionsexcept with slugma it's an early game pokemon that's locked behind reaching the friggin post-game, there's nothing redeemable about it, by the time you can reach slugma you will literally never have any reason to use it, because you already picked up far better fire typesAt least houndoom was cool enough some people would switch to itFrankly Slugma should have been encountered in Ilex Forest, make it the fire type you can catch if you have issues with Bugsythen also lower the evolution of Magcargo, who's kinda awful, from 38 to 28 And while we're at it, growlithe and vulpix already have lower encounter rates on their routes during the night, just remove their nighttime encounters and replace those with houndour
>>733773053Zoomer here, DS was cool. Probably thinking of gen Alphas
>>733777627Slugma existed purely for flavor. Cinnabar's volcano erupted, and spewed a bunch of lava slugs onto the nearby Cycling Road.
>>733777702you could still have kept that flavor and at the same time also introduced it in Ilex forest, have a small bit of burned out forest with them in it, and then also have them on cycling roadprobably would work a lot better since people would actually have a reason to use slugma and gotten some experience with it
>>733777691DS was a garbage system full of shovelware and mediocre ports. Kill yourself zoomnigger. dogshit generation
>>733777857>DS was a garbage systemI hate zoomers so much
>>733773053"unc" is gen alpha bullshit, and none of those faggots own a Switch. If they play games at all it's on their phone, but they mostly just watch streamers and dream of being cryptobros.
>>733777842I'd rather an ingame trade desu. Magcargo sucks enough to where the extra exp would come in handy.
>>733777627>Murkrow5% chance along with Hoothoot at night>HoundourShows up at night on some Johto routes>Sneasel10% on Ice Path>Slugmacommon in Union Cave and Burned Tower>Larvitar4% on Route 45 >Pupitar1% on Route 45>Misdreavus5% on Bellsprout Tower, Bell Tower and Burned Tower at night40% on the basement of Burned Tower
>>733777627>the most egregiously stupid placement of any wild encounter in any pokemon game ever
>>733777920Gen alpha isn't real. You are all zoomers to everyone older than you.
>>733778012I'm 41, anon.
>>733777891Im sorry that your entire childhood was complete dogshit but more importantly, you should leave the site, you already killed it
>>733778012Anon, Im 35. Dont be a boomer and call everyone millenials like they did to us for the last 10 years.
>>733778046Did I stutter? Even to this very second a new zoomer has been shat out into this world.
>>733776971>you likely had literally nothing else to do because you didnt have much other vidya to play and you had infinite time as a kid.Yeah, that's like, kind of the whole best part of being a fucking kid is that you have infinite time.>>733777012>....You didnt play the game.Been playing pokemon for literally 30 years dude. I'm old.>>733777103I'm only talking about gen 1/2 since we're referencing lg/fr.>>733777181>technical babbleNigga, in 1998 or whatever no one was worrying about EVs and shit especially in 4th grade. You were lucky if one kid had the official guide with the pokedex in the back and the maps for the caves or that you had been introduced to gamefaqs already.
>>733777857>>733777891IDK who is zooming who
hate tribalized generations lmao complete goycattle failure of a generation. This is what happens when you let them acess the same spaces that black people use, like twitter.Now you know why they don't have fathers.
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>>733778130You got the term Zoomer from gen Z, the term will shift in just a couple more years
>>733778189Zoomers are famous for hating soul, and DS was literally a culture phenomenon back in the day
>>733773053The oldest zoomers ie ones born 97-2001ish had practically the same exact childhood tech as the younger millennials. One of my neighbors was 3 years younger than me, making him a zoomer. We spent years mostly playing the n64 until the 360 came out.
>>733778253Maybe zoomers aren't a monolith
The only pokemon I need is azumarill and scizor and skarmory and togekiss
>>733778253>DS was literally a culture phenomenon back in the day>Number = goodThat's zoomtard behavior doe
>>733778341It had a cool gimmick and was portable. That's it.
>>733777393A lot of zoomies dont realize how fucking gay they made internet forums from 2014 and onwards. Out of no where everyone 16 year old was a faggot and needed to preach about it
>>733778268The oldest zoomers were born in 95ish and I am not gonna argue it. Millennial cutoff is 94 and the stupid change they made in 2018 or whatever makes no sense. Also if you were playing n64 until the 360 came out you just sound poor. Normal kids would have been playing GC and PS2.
>>733772929Dragonite is so fucking ugly.I have hated its existence for thirty (28) years.I cannot believe that someone looked at Dragonair and said, yup it needs to become a fat dumpy orange fuck. I will never not be mad.
>>733772929>game corner for 2800 coinsthis isn't even difficult to get, grinding to level 55 is a bit of a pain but there are far worse grinds in gaming
>>733778412poorfags are honorary millenialgods simply cause they grew up playing snes / n64 games and they know how dogshit life really is.
>>733778412My family was poor yeah, but we had gc and ps1. Ps1 was my brother's so I never played it. N64 party-multiplayer games were better than ones released on gc.My friend was a rich kid, he had an Xbox. But we didn't play it that often.
>>733778146>Nigga, in 1998 or whatever no one was worrying about EVs and shit especially in 4th grade.Im saying that you had bulky mons compared to current day, ergo you could take a hit easily. Which means that you could live forever with infinite potions and even had 5 free revives incase you fucked up/got crit fucked in the form of the 5 fodder pokemon you had in your team.So saying that you arent going to beat the beat the Elite 4 with an over leveled starter because of type match up is flat out wrong, and is in fact way easier to beat the game than having a team of 6 balanced mons due to how the leveling and hyper-saturated EVs scaled. Not even going into the fact that people like Lance had mons with 3 moves lmao
>>733773903>the uneducated trailer trash shitposting on 4channo wonder your race is going extinct kek
>>733776625No they did do that. But they did that AFTER the elite 4. Not during the regular playthrough like other anon is insisting
>>733774327the writing is on the wall, nobody but the most blind fanboy or obvious paid opinion could possibly think Nintendo is handling any of it's IP well, least of all pokemon. Nintendo is like China level of 'we deserve to be king just because' and they don't give a single fuck about improving quality. Number go up, including pokemon number. Eevee, Pikachu and Charizard still the top 3 pokemon of the 'fans' though hmmm
>>733778393It was portable and had wifi. Do you know how cool it was to ditch the damn link cables and also be able to trade with people that had moved across the country? That was a major shift in technology and it was novel before the smartphone colonized culture.
>>733778531Real millennials grew up playing snes and n64 without being poor lmao. >>733778538Eh, it really depends on the party game. PS2 was kind of killer for multiplayer with better shooters and fighting games by that point (mvc2, red faction etc.). Although people rawdog it like it was some masterpiece most people we're playing Double Dash when it came out, plus soul calibur II/Smash Melee etc. Also back then people were still content with watching people game on game nights if it was the latest cool new game and the PS2 and GC were full of hits. Oh, and star switch off in vice city san andreas and baldurs gate dark alliance was a big mp game too.
>>733778716I love how Nintendo is constantly blamed for Pokemon's woes when its like 99% Gamefreaks fault every time.If Nintendo did actually run pokemon 100% things would unironically be much better
>>733772929>Playing past gen1ISHYGDDT
>>733778476it's pretty clear that some designs of gen 1 got mixed and matched and weren't intended to be an evolution originally.like the venomoth/butterfree mixup
>>733778146Nta anon but you don’t have to know about the EVs to benefit from them, his point is if you overlevel a single Pokemon it will have stats far beyond its level. You don’t have to know the specifics of the system to recognize as a kid “hey my Charmander is better than everything else”
>>733778531kidding aside, this is actually kind of true. My friend's wife is way younger than what I expected because she acted just like me and my friend, but was actually a zoomer. She was just poor and all the shit she played lagged far behind her fellow zooms. Also probably because she had to grow up super fast since her Dad was a piece of shit and her Mom is a flighty mess, so she had to take care of her siblings. She barely has any of the "young adultisms" that you see in people her age
>>733778767yeah man because Zelda is going in such a great direction, nevermind Pikmin or DK
>>733778623I didn't say you can't beat it with the over leveled starter, I said with only the over leveled starter. No matter what you're gonna get rinsed and no 8 year old is stacking potions and revives lol. They are just using strong attack moves and thinking water beat rock, grass beat water. It's so simple that even a child can do it!Most kids would grind out their pokemon, get their favorite team built and go into the E4. Also it's not even difficult to grind out because victory road is literally right there. Not to mention rare candy glitch farming.
>>733778240Nope, because in a few years there will still be new zoomers being born. This will continue unending until an actual proper generation dividing event takes place, not mere time passing.
>>733778838What exactly is wrong with Zelda?
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>>733778927Open world collectathon copy paste secrets with hollow rewardsToTK isn't a bad game, it's a bad Zelda game
>>733778987>which of these is better game designI love how that completely ignores the fact that Dragonite is a legacy mon in Violet and as such he's obviously going to be available as an afterthought
>>733779002Your feelings about Zelda are irrelevant. Do you seriously think Gamefreak would be making better Zeldas?
>>733778876>I didn't say you can't beat it with the over leveled starter, I said with only the over leveled starter.But you can, the other mons are just fodder. It is effectively just the starter.>No matter what you're gonna get rinsed and no 8 year old is stacking potions and revives lol. Why wouldnt they? You get those Items throughout the game and have likely horded them since pokecenters exist and you are only in trouble with Gym fights. And you have a fuck ton of money since the only things kids would be spending on is pokeballs through the main game. Why wouldnt that spend their cash on hyper potions and revives at the final area of the game, especially if they lost once?>They are just using strong attack moves and thinking water beat rock, grass beat water. It's so simple that even a child can do it!Yes, and they can win that way is what Im saying. A mon 10 levels over another mon does a ton more damage even through resistance. >Most kids would grind out their pokemon, get their favorite team built and go into the E4Most kids ungabunga'd in my experience. Especially if they picked Blastoise since Water and Ice moves crushed the game in general and only struggled with Surge maybe.>Not to mention rare candy glitch farming.In my experience you usuallyn found that out after you were basically done with the game.Im just saying, most kids I saw in my childhood just had an overleveled charizard and everything else was 30 levels under it
>>733779246Why do you think Nintendo would be doing any better? They're obviously using Gamefreak as plausible deniability, taking all the credit for their success but only offering Gamefreak as the reason for any fuck up
>>733779257Sounds like everyone in your town was drinking leaded water then. How the fuck did you guys even battle each other? If a kid at my school had 1 pokemon that was good and everything else 30 levels lower their shit would get rocked and they'd go home pissing their pants in shame.
>>733773225>>733773262>>733773290>>733773346>>733773812>>733774205>>733776510>>733777691>>733777920>>733778268zoomer means young person, not gen zit’s a buzzword, not an actual word
>>733773053>Looks at posts>See early zooms get represented for growing up inbetween millennial and zoomer games>Apparently it didn't happenYou're retarded, no wonder people use zillenial as a benchmark for your dumbass
>>733779692Nigga the difference in effort and polish between TotK and Scarlet and Violet is incomprehensibly enormous.What fucking reality do you live in?
>>733779981No, it means gen-Z. Fuck off, faggot. Words have meanings.
>>733780013That's like saying a polished turd is better than a raw turdThere's such a noticeable lack of effort to ToTK (and botw) that it's baffling. The dungeons, the 'boss fights', the 'tools'
>>733780189DID YOU FUCKING PLAY SCARLET AND VIOLET? THEY ARE NOT EVEN ON THE SAME PLANET. THEY ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME SOLAR SYSTEM
>>733774305Is there even any NPC in the game that can survive Dragonite's outrage?
>>733779981That's some serious cope. Not surprised zoomcucks want to escape the label.
>>733779813>How the fuck did you guys even battle each other?Most didnt. You could tell who actually did based on their team because of this. I was one of the autists that actually had a team. Hence why I know a lot of kids ungabunga'd, because I'd wreck them. Also I figured out that certain pokemon crit a fuck ton, which I learned many years later was because of speed being tied to the crit rate, so my electrode would buttfuck everything. Though I wasnt without retardation, because I was also contrarian and didnt want a pidgy/spearow. I got that ingame trade for farfetchd and was so hyped for when it would evolve, it was going to be so cool because everyone else was using the other two birds (dodrio was memoryholed), and I was going to have something unique. About 40s later I figured out that some pokemon dont have an evolution and I was obscenely butthurt over it, especially when leaks of beta G/S came out many years later and showed that there was going to be an evolution in gen 2 but it was scraped. Literally the only reason I got SwSh was to finally get my fucking evolution with SirFetch'd. Dogshit game, but I finished the fucking fight. Havent gotten another pokemon game since
>>733773053>zoomers literally consider those to be "unc" systems. you have no idea what you're talking aboutNigga, zoomers were in elementary school when the ds pokemon games came out. I LITERALLY grew up on the DS lite. I grew up on the fucking Pokemon anime. We collected the fucking trading cards and played it during lunch. You retards can't seem to fathom that some zoomers were born between 1998 and 2003ish.
>>733780502>About 40 levels* later
>>733780502>(dodrio was memoryholed)Not by me. He is my go to forced flying pokemon slot in the first 2 gens.
>>733780595kek, youre alright anon
>>733779981Either this is someone who dislikes zoomers/younguns which I understand or a zoomer who wants to make themselves feel young and hip.
>>733780545>Nigga, zoomers were in elementary school when the ds pokemon games came out. I LITERALLY grew up on the DS lite.Besides the retards forgetting the early zoomers, did you have a relative or some sorts introducing you to older games?>Back to Gen 7 of gaming>Older brother puts in RE2 disk >He dies before getting to the RPDFunniest shit ever, good times
>>733780502>Most didnt. So you guys did have leaded water then.
>>733780882>did you have a relative or some sorts introducing you to older games?Nah, I just saw the Pokemon anime on Cartoon Network. My older cousin did get me into Streets of Rage 2, though.
>>733774379My negro gen 3 outrage is 90 power, it's weaker than surf. Just use dragon claw like a normal person.
>>733781029>Streets of Rage 2Kino, introduced to OOT and emulation and it changed everything for years to come
>>733776674>Munchlax on Honey TreesBro just migrate a Snorlax from gen 3.
>>733773056its a 1039 pokemon now I cant wait until they're all in one game.
>>733780882I love old developers forcing everything onto a cartridge or disk really makes them use their brain to find new ways to fit MORE stuff
>>733773053I grew up on DS games and while I didn't have a Gameboy I had a classmate who didt. zoomer
>>733779692Nintendo would actually try innovate and not crap out on graphics. You can hate zeldas direction but they do something new with each iteration.
As early as Gen 2, you could get a free Dragonite with Extreme Speed. >733776674>Gen 6Friend Safari, DexNav Chains, and Horde Battle mons with Hidden Abilities.
>>733778716>and they don't give a single fuck about improving quality.That has always been the case. Still, saying "it will ruin etc etc" when it clearly didn't is dumb.
>>733775869My first pokemon game was Stadium 1 on my N64 and I was born in 99What now faggot?
>>733782442pfft I was born 8 years earlier than you bitch ahahahahahahahhah I win
Dragonite a shit anywayBarney looking ass
>>733782492Well shit, guess I lost
>>733776674Why did gamefreak do all this?
>>733783023He did have some aura back in the day from the anime to be fair. And he looked a bit less mascoty and a bit more threatening with the gen 1 sprites
>>733784420The rounded face and everything jsut doesnt look threatening, it looks too friendly, especially when something like charizard is right there with the really angular headPersonally I dont really care for dragon types anyway, but dragonite is by far the weakest looking, even goodra looks less goofy
>>733783209ahahahahah I'll die sooner too another win for me lol
>>733784534You had to be there.
>>733783023the anime when it was the size of the lighthouse n you could only see its silhouette seriously what the other anon said "aura"
>>733782131Shut up
Never though a Dragonite thread would last this long and come this far?
>>733774509Name 5 training spots
But which pseudo is objectively the coolest and why is it Metagross?
>>733775068I’d rather grind with the Elite 4
>>733773053I work with an early 20s zoomer and when they announced FRLG he said they better release Emerald too because it's fucking peak. If you're a zoomer gamer you were either the prime audience for the GBA, your older sibling had one, or you had a DS that could play all of its games.
>>733784996Tyrannitar.
>>733784996imma go with Salamence cause the speed he has.
>>733773225Gen A teenagers are funnily far fewer than millennials and even less than boomers and Xers, especially the white ones speaking intelligible English. 4chan demographic is now the alternative early zoomers (mid 20s) and millennials.
Im addicted to white 2 right now pulled a shiy riolu at floiccesy ranch and decided I had to get his to 100
>>733785234zoomies are incapable of taking any responsibility whatsoever and just deflect their own cancer on everyone else. We need another war.
>>733785269I like how the mentality of>found a shiny, I have to make this work somehowIs still a thingGranted you lucked out but I've seen some questionable team choices just because of shinies, im guilty of it myself
>>733784996>But which pseudo is objectively the coolestSome primal one from SV, I guessGoodra was popular enough to get hisuian type
>>733777613>oldcucks start assigning tribes to age groups over a wojak meme in 2017>ACKshually you started it because I said so lol
>>733785358I never shiny hunt if it happens it feels a bit special and I've pulled about 5 shinies in my life Kingler in gold/silver was the first he's still with me to this day
>>733783870They were experimenting from Gens 2-4 and then stopped because they were too hard, at least for some stupid mechanics.
>>733778887That divide already happened years ago with the chink flu, which had much more impact on the world than the two goy towers which nobody gave a fuck about outside of america.
>>733772929Are you one of those bloated glassy-eyed milennials that farms shiny while watching your favorite e-celebs on twitch? Because that ain't fun bro
>>733780595Tri attack bitches. In gen2 it's always a pleasant surprise. I always imported a doduo as early as possible to roll as my main.
>>733778407>A lot of zoomies dont realize how fucking gay they made internet forums from 2014 and onwardsYeah, there needed to be more Shitllennials crying about Sorceress' tits and games objectifying women like a bunch of closeted faggots.
>>733777171What's wrong with the psuedo-legendary and only dragon type in the game being hard to get?
>>733785649funny how 2 decades later jigglypuff and porygon line are still the only ones where the move is worth using
>>733772929Are we pretending that game corner or 15% encounter chance are impossibleThat's not even close to a difficult encounter compared to some shit from later games
>>733773016I completed the yellow pokedex and am in the process of completing Crystal's. Despite liking the concept I'm really hating having to go through this shit and in fact, am considering giving up. This true gamer shit is all a scam out of your time for doing pointless chores, might aswell get a job.
>>733784534I thought it was cool that this super friendly looking dragon had the strongest stats of any Pokemon besides Mewtwo. It didn't need to look intimidating for you to feel like you're in trouble whenever Lance sent one out in Gen 1 or 2
>>733784996Metagross has one of the coolest cries everhttps://youtu.be/ZLMSAUUSs2o?si=RjVtjuKRQk1DOCOm
>>733785375I very much doubt popularity had anything to do with it. Fucking Samurott was a starter after all.
>>733787614I hate how bad it sounds in the new games, all the cries do in general.
>>733786204with some luck you can get it in the fourth gym city
>>733772929If you think they're getting filtered at grinding for anything with a late evolution then how do you expect them to not get filtered at the lack of full party exp share?But the truth is that every single zoomer out there already played this game and didn't get filtered by it so this is a retarded thread anyway
>>733772929Having almost all Pokemon encounterable in some kind of wild context, even psuedo-legends, is a good idea. It adds to the flavor to the world building that these are strong, but rare animals at the top of food chain and not just an expensive pet used only by elite trainers. The "how does it affect the game balance" factor is negligible since all the Psuedos in Arceus and SV were like level 70-85, meaning you wouldn't have a chance to catch or use them until late game, and seeing a "legendary" pokemon as a super boss you have to come back for later is cool.
>>733790328you're always stupidly overlevelled in la so it's easily possible to just go walk to the alphas and catch them the moment you find them