https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6rrciMAM3U
WHAT IS THIS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIITSociety is about to fucking fall.
>we don’t have the budget to bring in voice actors for the DLC!>but we do have the budget to bring in voice actors for a Twitter skit sega logic
>uwu discord kitten whisper voice for whisper
>>733858908Whisper sounds like they got a random twitter va
These characters sound gimmicky.
It's just not fair. These two get a free ride into canon based on nothing but sex appeal. Archie had D-listers with more going on with these two.Justice for Archie.
>>733858908>we want the bau bau audience
>Surge namedroppedThe hour is nigh.
I don't care how many times these characters are shilled I'm still not reading IDW
>>733859569Does he know?
>>733859731I tried to but I think my problem is I'm just too inattentive to read comics...
>>733859636>based on nothing but sex appealAnon, it's based on nothing but being fucking carpet munchers
>>733859569That person will be Vivian Reed if Surge ever becomes a thing. She's been the go-to actress for voicing Surge in mod projects.
>>733859731You'll care when you have to scan a physical copy of the latest IDW issue in order to play future Sonic games
>>733858908>ugly designs>not in any gamesWill never be canon.
>>733858908It should have been her...
>Aaaaaaaaaaaaany second now, Ray, and Sonic will call us and invite us to his new game.>You've been saying that since 1993.>Any. Second. Now. Ray.
>>733859731They invented a character that exists almost exclusively on Twitter. You’re getting the new SoA Sonic extended universe shoved into your face and you’re going to like it.
>>733859431They were already in the studio to record lines for The Chaotix series.
>>733858908>IDW
So did that mobile game where they had the Archie Freedom Fighters in it even come out?
>>733860123they're classic characters, they'll never appear in the modern era right now
>>733858908>Namedrops Jewel, Lanolin, Belle, Clutch, Surge, KitNeat, didn't mention of Rough and Tumble, or Starlight.
Who is the /u/fag at SEGA pushing these two?
>CAN I COME BACK AND HANG OUT SOMETIME, MR. SONIC?
>>733860265So they could’ve recorded some lines then
>>733858908What the fuck are these niggers doing? When are they doing a Sonic Central
>>733860515Ian, obviously... Sonic Team is letting him wield increasingly more power.
>>733860386As things currently appear to stand:>Current games and IDW Comics have a unified continuity>Classic continuity is in the past so characters like Mighty, Ray, Bean, Bark, Fang, Trip, Hardboiled Heavies remain restricted to Classic media (comics and games)>Sonic Prime is alternate reality bullshit>Sonic movies is alternate reality bullshit>Crossworlds rings are for alternate reality bullshit with other SEGA IPs and franchise crossovers like Spongebob and Minecraft>Sonic Boom continuity is assumed deadReminder that official prequel comics for Sonic Superstars and Sonic Frontiers exist and are part of continuity, and the Fang comic directly ties together Mania and Superstars (Fang is in possession of the Warp Topaz from main IDW comics).
>>733860619I think she's Amy's friend, not Sonic's.
>>733859569>random twitter vaWhisper is voiced by the English dub actress for Mirko from MHA.
>>733860661It will be a repeat of the 25th Anniversary year>SEGA hype up Sonic's 25th birthday for first half of year>June 23rd finally arrives>We get...an announcement of an announcement!>"Come to our party at Comic-con in 2 months! There might be something cool there!">2 months later>We get the announcement of Sonic Mania (that wont launch for another year)>Mysterious CGI trailer hinting at what eventually goes on to become Sonic Forces
>Sticks who?>Marine who?>Ray who?>Mighty who?>Bark who?>Bean who?>Fang who?>Trip who?>SHILL THE LEMUR AND WOLF
>>733860379No, it got delisted.
>>733861049They said it's only temporary but who knows why they felt it necessary at all.Probably not a good sign for the long term but whatever.
>>733859612They feel even less like Sonic characters with voiced dialogue.
>>733861049Eh, oh well. It was a mobile card game anyways.>>733860997Best way to have characters fail is to force them on the public.
>>733861131For all we know its to force them to remove the Archie references. Wouldn't be the first time.
>>733860997>put Emerl in Dark Beginnings>give Gemerl a VA in the Chaotix Files>mention Gemerl in Tailstube>do fucking nothing fun with the character because he’s glued to Vanilla’s hip
>>733858908Man, I can't wait for Sonic to end up like Doctor Who, Star Wars and Star Trek!
>>733860935I hope not, I know Frontiers 2 exists it's just that I can't see it, I really just want something to look forward to as a Gamefag
>>733858908The Sonic series is about to be more rape victim then ever.I pray SoJ doesn't make these two gay if they’re in the next ST game.
>>733860779>classic Sonic villain>will never show up in IDW's classic comics>but did appear in the files of that mobile game Rumble needs to come out
>>733858908Crying Lesbian Racers
>>733860476Because male characters are basically Nazis.
>>733861293>I pray SoJ doesn't make these two gay if they’re in the next ST game.They can't. It wasn't in their character pitch.
If Ian is influencing the story going forward I at least deserve to have payoff for this.After that I'll go along with whatever else comes but at least give me vindication on this.
>>733858908Whisper and Tangle are to Ian what Ashoka is to Dave.Just fanfic industry plant characters.
>>733861148>they're going to fail!People have been saying this since Whispangle became a thing, but the fanbase still gets hyped seeing them every time.Meanwhile, Sally Gaycorn is a noncanon literal who from the cringe Archie era that only boomers lust after anymore.
>>733861239The answer is giving Vanilla something to do so Gemerl can come along
>>733860054Ian hates her so she's never appearing in any American Sonic media outside of that short appearance in IDW that was just used as an excuse to abandon the Sol Dimension completely
>>733861547Banjo is more canon than Tangle and Whisper.
>>733861547Hype from where exactly? The same artificially generated hype like Aloy?
>Bro aren't you happy IDW has representation outside of the comics now?Sorry but I just don't care for the dykes. Tangle is a woke design and Whisper looks worse than most OCs.
I hate the current era of Sonic so much. No fun shonen tier stories in the games. No Archie autism. Just IDW and a focus on "unifying canon" even though the canon is trash. Also, OC's that seem to get more attention than the main cast. Oh, almost forgot the whole rewriting history thing to make Amy stronk because we can't have no female character defined by her love for a male character. Just sucks.
>>733861631Sega would never
>>733859431They don't have Disney-tier money and they wish they do.
>>733861838Ironically the more they try to establish a canon for Sonic the less appealing it is. The original games had lots of environmental storytelling that a lore dump couldn't achieve.
>>733860997>C-Can I come out of One Off Character Hell now?
>>733861937Are you even canon anymore? I thought the dream world had Eriem?
>>733861838The mangas have fun shonen aspects at least.
>>733861838>No fun shonen tier stories in the games>implying that Sonic Frontiers wasn't shonen
>>733861838Honestly I'm still better off with this than the Graff and Pontac period. At least there's some effort to make sure they're not writing anything BAD.The games were better by that point but the universe had taken a shit in terms of intrigue (it's like the shallowness of Sonic Heroes stuck around).
I just think funny that the Sonic fanbase on Twitter is hyping all the IDW shilling and think it’s gonna lead into some super big IDW based game that’ll feature Tangle and Whisper as full fledged playable characters wit their own moveset and it’ll end with them having lesbian sex to piss off the JP/wind chuds.When in reality, they’re just gonna be NPCs with 3 lines of dialogue in the hub worlds lmao.
>>733862009Sonic Frontiers doesn't even have a story, it purely exists as a vessel for Ian Flynn to retcon as many things as he possibly can.
>C-Can I come play? It's me...Monica the Mouse? From the first Sonic manga?
>>733861838The worst part is this attempt to push more DEI and Woke ideals into this, like the companies that did the same with Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who. This IP is fucked.
>>733861937doesn't Lumina no longer exist since she's just the split form of Illumina who was restored at the end of Shuffle? >>733861972yes it is
>>733862090And One Piece has close to 100 filler episodes. That still makes it shonen
>>733862093She's actually kinda cute
>>733861927eyup. >>733861978need to read the shadow ones.>>733862009It had shonen tier boss fights hidden within a mountain of Ian's melodrama. Also, gotta love how he still tried to sneak in his whole "break up arc" when Sega told him no. He used to be such a fun writer, but his time around the various comic pros and hugbox of fans has really tainted his whole style. It's bland as an unsalted cracker now and filled with nothing but pandering, member berries, and gay shipping.
>>733862009Frontiers is more like a Sienen, it’s incredibly moody and boring, it’s nothing like the Adventure games or Heroes in terms of tone, even 06 was a more uplifting game then Frontiers.
>>733858908Fill them all with my cumAll of them even Eggman
>>733862168I tried watching OP like a year ago and the entire episode was some little girl's tragic backstory, nothing cool happened. No idea how anyone still watches that show.
>>733862109This one will last a bit longer because sonic tism and yuritards are a special kind of autists in and of themselves. It just sucks that the usual parasites have latched themselves onto yet another childhood thing, but what are you gonna do. They need a cartoon hedgehog and his friends for validation, we don't.
>>733861716>Banjonot beating the "boomer stuck in the past" allegations
>>733862090Story is the only thing Frontiers has. Gives answers to where the fuck the emeralds came from, ties a lot of lore together. It sure doesn't have much in the gameplay department, it makes Ubisoft open world games look like masterpieces next to it.
>>733862229>it’s incredibly moody and boringI think it's only like that cause it's Open World, the cutscenes between Islands aren't meant to advance the story, and I think that really hurts the game. I remember hearing Japanese devs seeing cutscenes are rewards but with this Open World format they have to make a lot of them and they tend to be less interesting
>>733862467>Japanese devs seeing cutscenes are rewards*seeing cutscenes as rewards
IDW fan-fcition comics are not video games.
Enough gay shit.
>>733862324There's nothing I can do aside from pointing out, it's not like I can knock some sense into people like Ian, that's Sega's job but it looks like these boomer CEOs have lost their minds as well.Fans needed to actually be vocal about it, but it looks like no one is really paying attention until it's soo blatant that even the sleepiest nitwit notices what has happened. This shit happened with every single other IP in the last 13 years. For the people saying "Woke is Dead."No it fucking isn't, stop coping and stop jerking off just because Blackrock and Vanguard lost a little money.
>>733860779What was wrong with Classic being another dimension ala Forces? Who the fuck legitimately had a problem with that
>>733858908I hope this goes the way of the Tony the Tiger stream where it gets inundated with people lusting after the streamer and making them audibly uncomfortable
>>733861838What sucks is that even the Japanese heads like Iizuka, Hoshino, Nakamure etc approve of this shit too, they’re never gonna bring back people like Maekawa or bother trying to establish their clear vision and identity of Sonic to the western audience like they did in the 2000s.Yes, what we have is better than the shitty Nick Jr tier Pontaff era of the 2010s but that’s the bare minimum but I don’t like how SoA is still controlling this series especially with Ian’s fanboyism and all the woke progressive crap from IDW.I’m convinced Sonic isn’t just for me anymore.
>>733862731Classic being its own dimension but also the past makes things needlessly convoluted, even for Sonic.
>>733862802Um...you know its a prerecorded video made to look like a real stream, right?>>733862823Good, fuck Maekawa.
Fucking kill yourself nigger. These faggot piece of shit SJS characters are worthless slime and need to be thrown in the fucking gas chamber
>>733859569Shut up, I would have whispering sex with her.
Bring back Migu.>Tomboy>Spoiled brat>A bully>Is a lizard
>>733862823Nothing is for Men anymore, nor for normal people for that matter, it's only for the 1% of crazy people trying to start a Communist Revolution because "White people bad". The only reason why normal people aren't bitching more is because they're the only ones trying to make a living and don't have the energy to deal with these demons. It's sad, man.
>>733860476Rough and Tumble (and also Clutch) are in the previews for the next DC crossover so that's something at least.
>>733862875Doesn't need to be the past. Classic and Modernfags want different things from the series so it's better to just keep them separate to allow for some semblance of creative freedom
>>733859569That's DEI for ya. The actress was only hired because she's black and gay or some shit like that. Literally the only reason.
By the way, Whisper's VA also voices Nessa in Pokemon.
>>733863149>>733860835
>>733863224Yeah, her too.
>>733863149Yeah and look how gay Pokemon has become. It's unplayable for anyone who has a functioning brain and moral compass that doesn't consist of AIDS and venom.
>>733862716I'm honestly just glad it got me to do several things:>realize how silly it is to become too invested in other peoples creative works. You can enjoy them, but don't ever tie your identity into them (what trannies and the various mentally ill people do)>unironically got me to touch grass in a way these people would probably hate. Have various /out/ and /sp/ related hobbies, am a lot more social, said "touching grass" didn't make me change my political beliefs, just piled on how weird and maladjusted the crowd that subverted video games actually>has me working on my own creative endeavors to counter it (released a couple of them but best not to post them on here for obvious reasons)If it wasn't for their targeting of children, I'd just let them have it all as the only people they are hurting are themselves at this point using cartoon characters to validate their delusions and further sink their lives into complacency with being mentally and physically unhealthy.
>Tiara Boobowski's dad makes a cameo in the sonic comic>Tiara has yet to show up
>>733863113Classic being split from Modern in general is already a needless division. It serves no point other than to give Classic its own roster of characters it doesn’t even use so modern Sonic can doubly not use them.
>>733863317Okay, now complain about the hot muscular rabbit woman in My Hero Academia.Go ahead. I dare you.
I don't mind changing Amy's personality away from being obsessed with Sonic IF they had another idea for her.They do not. That's the frustrating part. The attempt to dial down that aspect of her character (an aspect I grew up thinking was fairly annoying and unwelcome) didn't give her anything else to add to the friends group in lieu of it.
Why did Eggman build the monkey destruction switch?
>>733863468They made it work in the Boom cartoon.
>>733862991Keep crying!
>>733863539I think that was because she still WAS obsessed with Sonic. What they did there was give her a better sense of self-control when around him. So she doesn't fawn over him and not respecting his wishes to be given space.
>>733863320This isn't targeting kids, this is targeting the LGBT community. That's it. If I were still a kid, I wouldn't watch this shit, it's boring content and it's poorly written slop made by creative hacks. Why do you think kids flock to Minecraft and CoD these days? Because everything else is tailored to gay people and 40 year old women.
>>733863040Only thing my friends do now is keep up with this ish just enough to know what to keep their kids away from. Thankfully, a lot of these vipers tell on themselves as all you need to do is google search the name of the IP, then "lgbt" after that and the first couple articles that pop up will talk about it being in the media or complaining about the lack there of.
>>733863434This voice actress was just picked because of her skin color and sexual orientation and nothing else.
>>733863664nah, when the official Sonic Movie account retweets some pic of Sonic with top surgery, they most definitely are targeting children as they know who mostly consumes that media. Now it's also to validate the people you mentioned for sure, but there have been several instances of grooming from the official avenues. Why do you think the powers that be were so desperate to get the word "groomer" banned from everywhere...
>>733863761Fag
>>733863761bet she had one hell of a tantrum when she found out post time jump she was married to a light skinned man and had a kid.
>niggas don't know Sally was meant to be in Sonic X-Treme
>>733863675Pretty much. At least they're dumb enough to just shout it out for everyone to hear. Perhaps making the Sonic IP as toxic as Star Trek is a good thing, Sega will be forced to shelve it until this Woke Hysteria stops.
>>733858908>>733859287>Sonic Fans: AHHHHH, THESE CHARACTERS FROM A DIFFERENT PART OF THE FRANCHISE?! NOOOOOO!!!!Why are you people like this?
>>733858908>Comic characters appearing in games nowAs if the character assassination of the crew wasn't enough.
Archie lost Lmfao
Do kids even like Tangle & Whisper, Sonic is targeted towards 6-12 year olds so I doubt they’d like lesbian bait
>>733863890Not with the billion dollar film franchise they won't.
>>733861838I don't think anyone working on the franchise at the moment understands it. Ian understands the deep lore but they are his characters, nothing about it feels like sonic, it just feels like people reading a greatest hits script of whats supposed to be cool rather than just being cool
>>733859706Tenrec Sex!
How do I make out with someone with a beak?
>>733863921leftist_discourse_is.png>>733864000Yuritards and IDW fans adore them. They are made for social media to consume, thus their industry plant status.
>>733863040>>733863675You People aren't normal and made politics your entire personality while having a victim complex.
>>733863921Probably because it's indicative of influence of writing that isn't appreciated becoming more and more apparent.
>>733864000Thats what this push is for. They're also getting toys and plushies.
>>733860054Do we really need more Loli characters? Don’t we have Cream and Sage?I guess the more the merrier
>>733859287I hope it doesnt last much longer
>>733863803That retweet of that mutilation only convinces me more that this was never about kids, but to just pervert another IP to appeal to mentally deranged freaks.
Bunnie Rabbot should come back and have tits as big as Rouge's in Sonic Adventure 2.
>>733864085>Yuritards and IDW fans adore them.Normal Sonic fans only like Surge from the comics
>the black actress for Whisper, Anairis Quinones, has 240 actress credits on IMDB including things like Street Fighter 6, Gundam, My Hero Academia, and Pokemon>the white actress for Tangle, Ashlyn Madden, has 31 actress credits on IMDB with the most notable being Shin Megami Tensei V and DC Super Hero GirlsWho is the unqualified DEI hire here?
>>733859887>scans the cover without reading the sloppa comic
>>733864000They'd probably like them if they were allowed to do anything cool except be lesbians and cry.Also Whisper being around means Eggman canonically killed hundreds of people, which feels weird. Bowser would never
>>733859438>whisper voice for whisperhow could they do this?
>>733864047Sonic was basically Mickey Mouse+Dante back in the day. The stories had some universal message, they would do some cool stuff, they would end. Gameplay was mostly geared towards speed runners which is why so many journalists would get filtered and give them all bad reviews. Now though, Sonic is a therapist to all his friends and an altruistic rebel leader. The OC's usually take the spot light as well.
>>733864085>Leftists The fuck they got to do with anything? I'm pointing out how you morons try to gatekeep each other even when you're fans of the same fucking franchise!
>>733864020Aren't these people bitching that: "If you don't watch Star Trek, it'll be shelved!!"?Give it time, Sonic will be shelved too when retards finally figure out that this IP is being ran by LGBT weirdos looking to appeal to their own fetishes like the ones running Star Trek.
>>733861838>I hate the current era of Sonic so much. No fun shonen tier stories in the games. No Archie autism. Just IDW and a focus on "unifying canon" even though the canon is trash. Also, OC's that seem to get more attention than the main cast. Oh, almost forgot the whole rewriting history thing to make Amy stronk because we can't have no female character defined by her love for a male character. Just sucks.I played since the Genesis games and dropped off Sonic mid-way through the 6th gen playing only Colors, Generations and Mania since. Though I still take a look every now and again.The funniest shit is despite the fact they've got Ian Flynn "lore master" modern Sonic appears to be all about bowing down to the past and giving more importance to what happened 20 years ago than trailblazing any new stories.
>>733864153You have taste.
>>733864109Nice projecting.Why inject LGBT crap into Sonic then if politics isn't YOUR entire personality? Moron.
>>733864109I love how triggered your types get when they realize they aren't normal and that parents are desperate to keep their kids from becoming people like you.
>>733864276You seem very angry.And Sonic isn't going anywhere as long as A) its the only Sega IP that sells in the west and B) it prints money in merchandise.
>>733864325>>733864324Do you realize where you are? Fucking 4chan?
>>733858908Can I get 1 Honey The Cat?
>>733864234it goes undefeated.
>>733864197They both aren't qualified to voice act.
SEX WITH TAILS
>>733864000Kids don't like any of the lesbobait shows/movies they're forced to watch.
>>733864078>How do I make out with someone with a beak?With a peck on the cheek
>>733864402and you should go back to blusky.
>>733860123This is why I will always hate the retarded Classic/Modern split. It’s limiting the potential of the Sonic Franchise.
>>733864352I always knew Boco was a fruity little bastard.
Bring Bunnie back to be the police woman who's after Rouge. And they both got big tits.
>>733864503How so?
>>733864402>Bitching about people complaining.Seems you're the one who doesn't know where they are.
>>733864441>you need to thank Shitty Aging First Gen Sonic FansIf anything I'd think the people going "sonic's dumbass friends" would hate new Sonic characters getting shilled as much as they did in 2001what nu-sonic fans are doing is an overcorrection of all that "everything sonic does is lame and gay and cringe" stuff from the 2000's anyway
>>733862440>Story is the only thing Frontiers has. Gives answers to where the fuck the emeralds came from, ties a lot of lore together. ItSorry but that isn't story, that's just bits of lore. A story is like each of the Sonic Adventure character campaigns.
>>733864417This is like 90% of the nu-Sonicfags mindset. There is no discourse with them because they're disingenuous shit-eaters.
>>733864373Eyup. That's why I'm always a bit melancholy by the state of Sonic, but have long since moved on. I'll play some of the older games from time to time, but there are better things to do with your time. Really, this is the first vent I've had about the franchise since the whole "Ian including the breakup thing" in Frontiers. I don't even like her character all that much, but I can't stand when a person claims to love the characters so deeply, then proceeds to due his darndest to change them at a foundational level because they aren't what he considers to be in line with the current liberal view points.
>>733861838Shonen is not a type of story, it's a demographic
>>733862440Man, don't speak for me. I actually enjoyed my time with the game (it's not perfect but it was engaging all the same).Shadow Generations did do a lot of what it did in the gameplay department better, though, I will accede to that (really it just shows they're getting better at crafting a compelling 3D Sonic formula).
>>733864556>Everyone thinks Bunnie and Rouge are in a relationship, that's why Bunnie can't arrest Rouge.>"AH'M STRAIGHT AS A CORN STALK! AH RIDE MY MEN LIKE AH RIDE A BRONCO, IF HE AIN'T BUCKIN, AH AIN'T DOING IT RIGHT!"
>>733864373It's paramount, so that's obviously going to be the case. I have no hope for this film because unlike some of the posters on here, I can actually notice a basic pattern.
Remember when they slipped a Bunnie cameo into the Sonic Forces prequel comic and got chewed out by Sega for it?
>>733860123nobody and I mean NOBODY gives a shit about these ugly hobosthe only gimmick they had going for them was, ironically, being forgotten characters
>>733864851I had an idea for them in an episode in a Sonic SatAM-inspired universe that's based around SegaSonic...
to all the anti-comic fags itt:as someone who has read all of the idw comics... Like, 80% of it is kinda' nothing...The two parts of it I really like are Surge & Kit, and Scrapnik Island.
>>733864790I am just glad they sort of did the retelling of SA2 justice. It wasn't perfect, but it was serviceable enough and if there was one film to get right it was that one. They dialed back the """humor""" with the fat older sister and even the gayness from Stone.
>>733860619Who?>>733860935History is just an endless time loop of cringe and kino and we all just gotta accept it.
>>733864418why?
>>733858908Retard Dash and FlutterCry
>>733864851They where Knuckles and Tails before those two existed.
>>733864935Surge will be the rectifier.
>>733865025Mighty, maybe, to Knuckles. Ray is more of a ditzy goof with a happy streak to have any correlation with Tails.
>>733863115So Whisper+Tangle are confirmed gay?
>>733858908>lesbian black-coded OCs instead of /ourguy/Gayest fucking timeline.
>>733865125No, Sega won't let them.
>>733864373>That's going to get worse in Sonic Movie 4 you can see the arrogant annoying shitty Feminism that Amy oozes in the teaser. Even worse is seeing all the retards old and young alike being hyped. Being frank Sonic Fans deserve to be shat on since they love shit. And hope Sega dies within this century.They're already dying. have you not noticed a pattern?>Sonic 2 Movie comes out>Sonic Frontiers sells well>Sonic Superstars underperforms>Sonic 3 Movie trailers hype>Sonic x Shadow Generations sells well>Sonic Crossworlds sells 1million in a month and underperformsThe movies are the life support for the games and they need a movie to sell one game. After a game has sold from a movie hype, the very next game underperfoms. If the movies ever fail or Jim Carey gets bored and doesn't want to be Dr. Robotnik, then games are going to die with the movies.
>>733865125They're not getting into relationships at ALL because of Archie.
>>733865140>his design is awesome>his ost is great>his va is perfect>his backstory and motivations are so painfully bad it ruins the rest
>>733865125Obviously. Why else would they be pushing this "Duo" so hard? They can be cute and try to deny it all they want.
>>733865140Infinite was robbed because Forces was a 2010s game
>>733865249Sega banned all relationships. Also being gay wasn't in their character pitches, so its too late to make them now.
>>733865205Probably not for a lack of trying. Ian said that they floated the idea to the nip overlords several times before but they refuse to let it happen. Still, knowing western writers, virtue signaling is literally everything to them so they'll figure something out on some pride month I'm sure.
>>733860476>boy franchise>put homos in charge of writing>all (few) new male charactera are evil>all (most) new female charactera are heroes>rewrite sonic to being a cuck defending eggman>rewrite amy to being le stornk indipindi freemale>rewrite eggman to being a gay dad with occasional bad moods>all conflict is now just forced boring gay drama>all morality is shit reddit and twitter virtue signaling>all divine elements get retconned into being alien soience>less character actions, +6000% preachy walls of text>any normal relation between different sexes is demonized and censored>half the scripts are just plagiarizing old games>the other half is vacuous lore slop and feats for soulless nerd argumentsIt's suchs a whiplash sticking to corny but honest stuff like Heroes where every character is perfect (yes, mutts, Amy included) and then being exposed to even just a scent of ian's headcannon.
>>733865336Now that they're official game characters SoJ sure as fuck won't let it happen.
>>733864168that and lanolin for her fat tits
>>733865271>Infinite in a storybook gameimagine the kino...
>>733865313They fucking didn't ban shit. lol They're playing coy. They can say they "aren't a couple" all they want but soo obvious that they are. Gaslighting only works for so long before people just ignore the lie and go with their gut instead out of pure spite.You know this, don't try and play dumb.
>>733864135>SageNot cannon
>>733864935Based, I'm enjoying reading the salty posts from these posts cause Surge, Tangle and Whispers designs make my dick wet. Seeing Surge in action in the comics was also neat, and when she eventually gets added too, it'll be even more salt.
ALL HAIL SURGE.
>>733865483"Characters cannot be in any relationships." Hard Sega mandate.Except Vector's pointless crush on Vanilla, because apparently Sega thinks its funny.
>>733865362It's especially sad because Ian used to be a legit fan. I remember during the ride where he and another guy came around and interacted with us a bit. Problem is, you hang around the modern comic circle long enough and it absorbs you. There were some amazing comic writers that used to make some really profound stuff that now write like teenage girls. Ian is basically the Dave Filoni of Sonic. Once a talented fan but the brain rot rubbed off on him.
>>733865530How do you figure?
>>733864168I like Tekno and Grimer personally but I think it's fine for comic/cartoon/anime continuity characters to stay in their lane and not encroach on the mainline games, and the same standard should have applied to IDW as well.
>>733865483It's true, they didn't ban gay stuff.These two birds specifically are gay, because they were pitched as a couple initially.
>>733861838I feel so bad for the kids who didn’t get to experience the 2000s of Sonic and were born too late.
>>733865483>>733865570He's a mentally ill yuritard. I'd ignore him or he'll have you arguing pointless crap for hours.
>>733865570If that's the case, then why are Whisper and Tangle tied to the hip in everything they appear in? I mean goddamn, it's soo obvious a toddler can point it out. There is no mandate stopping this trash. You're not going to convince me otherwise, Anon so stop trying.
>>733864078The bird characters in Sonic games have kinda rubbery-looking beaks so they have more readable shapes when they talk, so I just assume they can cup their lips a little bit to help. That's probably how I'll have to animate it anyway.
>>733865679This was the height of the "friends era" where they couldn't stop creating new characters that was given a hard stop with Sonic Unleashed.We seem to be going back to that.
>>733865743Ian and Evan really want them to be. But Sega says no.
FAT TIT sheep
>>733865679I feel bad for anyone that got into vidya after 2014. A few good ones still trickled through past 2012, but man, 2013 was the start of the drought and by 2014 what vidya was had all but shifted. I'm mostly a /vr/ poster. Dunno how I found my way on /v/ today as threads like this just depress me as they remind me of the modern mess.
>>733861972Believe it or not, Shuffle is canon
>>733859636>based on nothing but sex appeal.It's based on SEGA wanting control over the franchise they own instead of let psychos like Ken Penders spiral shit off into legal and writing insanity. So it's a shared continuity between the games and comics.
>>733865671Seriously, these LGBT people are just acting disingenuous because they think we're stupid. Well, shit, Irony is knocking on their door, maybe they should answer it. kek
>>733865483>>733865743They've made it very clear that all the comic staff sees them as a couple, but can't be directly open about it because of Sega won't let characters not pitched as a couple first be a couple because of Penders PTSD.
>>733865880Ew, why?
>>733865796Sega said yes, otherwise this IDW comic would've ended a while ago. But it's still going and Ian and Evan still have a fucking job, So, you're full of shit, bud.
>>733860123These two are so fucking ugly it's unreal. Knuckles with weird long ears and bald yellow Sonic.
>>733865778>going back to that in an era where every new character is made by some mentally ill urbanite I hate it. This is not the time to go back.
>>733865960>>733865908
>>733865880>my multiverse concept that is tied together by the Shuffle nexus-verse isn't just making up things
>>733865912It's considered an "Important Episode" meaning someone at Sonic Team really liked it. That's the general rationale.
>>733863049>lol what if I make a big titty sheep background character no one will notice*canon a few years later*>what
>>733865908Letting lust for the same sex become your identity is not normal.Lust for the same sex is not normal either and should be discouraged.
>>733866025Good grief. That game was crap.They should just make Sonic and NiGHTS canon to each other.
>>733865908Then why did Sega allow that image to exist? They're obviously skirting the rules and Sega isn't doing shit about it. Stop trying to gaslight us.
sonic's only value as a franchise is to create sonickian women in order to be drawn as porn for me, a tourist who will never purchase or play a sonic game outside of the three played at childhood, to masturbate to. introducing these hoes to the larger canon means that i will see them naked more, which can only be a good thing for me. thusly i care not what autist this makes mad. bring in the sheep next and just go ahead and stop making any more male characters so as to expedite the process.
>>733866082Because Sega only has one guy that approves everything in the comic, taking months to do one issue. He must have missed it.
>more comic faggotrywhen will it ever end?
>>733863475Hard Goku counter
>>733862093Kinda looks like Movie Amy
>>733866082I wouldn't be surprised if Sega eventually caves and lets Ian have his creations kiss instead of just "subtly" "implying", but, for now, they are suffering from Jap autism
Okay but Tangle is cute and I love her snort laugh in the Chaotix episode. Whisper is lucky to have this adorkable lemur as her gf.
>>733865778At least the friends introduced back then had some appeal in spite of how uninspired some of them were. All the current friends are background fodder tier Glup Shittos who are a mess of barely distinguishable features.
>>733866158Games and comics are both canon.
>>733864213Why is someone who only whispers receiving a large portion of talk time in ANY form of media?
i just fucking hate yurifags, god they're annoying
>>733865908Penders is a big part of why they can't be gay, but it was also just the general direction for the archie comics to involve alot of romantic drama.. It sucked.And if anyone complaining about Tangle and Whisper NOT being a couple actually sat down and read that shit, they'd understand too.
>>733866142These people are clearly activists, if I was leading Sega, I would've fired them the moment I found out about this. Ian and Evan are CLEARLY violating the mandate and violating their contracts. Sega clearly supports this activism.
>>733866217They aren't fired and blacklisted from the industry, so not suffering enough, clearly.
>>733866265Geez, calm the fuck down man.
>>733864417Figures you'd believe a Twitter faggot such as yourself. >>733864565>>733864481I know where exactly where I'm at. A den of scum & villainy who thinks they're some bastions of "morals".
>>733866252>dangerous>annoying>quick to infest any IP they can>prideful as all get out>argumentativeI'll never forget an interaction I had with one where they claimed portraying their head canon ship as noncanon was literal violence towards them and they deserved to be allowed to commit violence or kill the person that created straight art of the characters. They are a nutty lot of gooners.
>>733864197They can be given as many valueless trinkets as they want. They still sound like shit.
Imagine being an Archie fan today
>>733864556>>733864749>Bunnie TopazFuck it, make it so.
>>733866367>calls somebody else a Twitter faggot>admits he's an outside elementBravo, nigger. Leave.
>>733866381not to mention that none of them are actual lesbians and that this doesn't really belong in sonic.
>>733866071That would blow up in your face. Do you really trust Sonic Team to build a franchise multi-verse using their IPs? Imagine if Sonic Crossworlds had a story incorporating the various Sega IPs. Do you foresee anything good coming out of that?Though if you go by the official byline of Sonic twitter in regards to Crossovers, everything is canon. A claim originally made when Sonic cross overed with Puyo Puyo.
so are the new comics good?
Serious question. No joking, or memesWhat is ACTUALLY so wrong with Tangle and Whisper so happen to be basically gay?
>>733858908Wow could they make a more annoying character?
>>733866441Still just grateful it ended before becoming IDW Sonic.
>>733866495lollmao
>>733866350Fuck no, Ian and Evan clearly are politically driven activists, clearly violated the mandate and their contracts and they should be fired. Sega clearly supports this activism, otherwise they would've been fired a while ago.Parents shouldn't have their kids deal with this IP until this activism is totally removed. Any parent paying attention already did.
>>733866495see >>733864935
>>733864935Scrapnick is passable enough. And it well would you look at that- ian didnt get his claws on it
>>733865671Ironically they perhaps the best gay representation in the sonic comics in a long while. Both have their own distinct personalities away from one another, They don't rub their relationship in everyone's face every two seconds, and they act like how real life couple would act together, not focusing on sex and horny grinding bad fiction like the yuri shipping crowd has deemed whisper and tangle to be in their sad pathetic minds.
>>733866495kek no
>>733866497Because it's a sexual fetish being shown to kids, that's why. Idiot.
>>733866490A chance to see NiGHTS, Vectorman, Shinobi, Skies of Arcadia, and all the other beloved IPs from my childhood in something new? Absolutely. I fucking love Sega.And not everything is canon. Chronicles isn't.
its amazing how all of this would be insignificant if the games were just good.
>>733866497yuritroons suck
>>733866474Nah, I just don't have any illusions of where I'm at. Wish you "moral cops" have this same energy when there's pedos on /v/
SONIC HEROOOS
>>733866497It ruins my SilverxWhisper ship.
>>733866495No, scrapnik island is. The problem is that the comic has a lot of really great concepts and ideas that it always fails to execute
>>733866743>DEFEAT LAST EVIL
>>733866630Rouge and her jiggle physics have been around for longer.
>>733866497Besides being sexual deviance and having no place in a IP about a blue cartoon hedgehog that never had stuff like that before?Lesbians are a dime a dozen im the western creative spheres. They are safe. You get to virtue signal to the mentally ill with them while being defended to the death by perverts who pretend they are part of your cause because you are catering to their fetish. They are an appealing way to present sexual deviance which is why you see them as the majority in media as opposed to their male counterparts. It's lazy, safe, and annoying. They are never well written because you can't let anything too bad happen to them and their relationships are always damn near perfect as they cannot be portrayed realistically as there would be claims of homophobia and the people that embrace this sort of thing are terrified of being labeled as such.
>>733866746Because Ian and Evan are trying to push propaganda, not a story.
I'm just waiting for them to make AOSTH a canon alternate universe
>>733858908>>733859431I don't understand SegaI always though Sonic Racing games were Shovelware tier (they had a few tf2 characters in one of them too if I remember correctly)Did they really though people were gonna buy it for $80 ?
Whisper: Dark past, niceSurge: Dark past, meanLanolin: Normal past, meanTangle: Normal past, nice
>>733865679Hurts to see that image and compare it to what Sonic is becoming.
>>733860935Was it the 20th or the 25th anniversary that had the constant buzzing on the stream?
>>733866946The one with TF2 was the only one that wasn't
>>733864409Have another Honey Cat!
>>733866497>>733866926to add to this, the characters can do literally anything they want and be as annoying as possible because they're gay
>>733865565At this point Surge is nothing more than traumatized bullying bait. Nearly every victory she's won has an * with it with the writers making up some bullshit or someone coming to save her to win. She's already lost multiple times to Sonic and they've been trying to hype her up as his next rival when she's already got her ass kicked by him. The only reason she has any fans now is because of her bad girl punk rock shtick and even that gets old quickly with the comics them trying to write her as a anti hero turning good.
>>733866692Considering your beliefs, you're either an irl pedo or could be one so long as they included the letter at the end of the "Lgbt". Your beliefs are shaped by the times and have no divergence. If the majority of your group believed something, you'd go right along with it.
>>733860619Too bad for you
>>733864935>>733866746I'll never get the glaze over that mid mini when it is"durr he said the thing and i recongnized those things!"Literally ova and archie stuff reheated
>>733866497I don't care if they're lesbians or not.They just look gross and are unappealing and should stay in the snorefest comics where they belong.
>>733859706Only a matter of time
>>733867105really says a lot about the quality of IDW when that's the best story from it
>>733866640>And not everything is canon.https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1349867554903187457>Chronicleshttps://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/gametitle/SonicChronicles.htmlThe only Sonic games that aren't recognized are Sonic Pocket Adventure and Sonic Rivals 1 & 2.
>>733866918I didn't know an already covered pair of knockers was a fetish. Ya know what, maybe Sega should just get rid of every female character in general. Fuck it. Might as well play it safe, right? lol
>>733867065No, I'm an individual who's beliefs haven't been molded 4chan's "views" on politics.
>>733867170Zombie arc was the best but the fanbase isn't mature enough for that discussion.
>>733864935This, it's not bottom tier garbage, but man... there's somethings I'd do over if I could. Clutch man...
>>733860054
>>733865642I dont like her. Shes a garbage version of the fanfic eggman niece people came up with during Mania. I actually liked Omelette, very colorful bowser junior type.Sage is so fucking shit. Shes boring in looks and personality, she takes away eggmans spotlight, shes supposed to be a villain but godforbid woke writers ever demonized a non trad wife female so shes also on the hero team and further brings down eggmans character where suddenly he acts like a step dad and has feelings for her when she is literally easier to reproduce than the average egg pawns which actually are made in his image.Post generations 2011 sonic is fully non cannon.
>>733867191Even if Chronicles was canon (its not, the encyclopedia said so) it'll never be touched again.
>>733867105Pearls before swine, as they say.
>>733867250Does she wear Shoes or Sandals?
>>733866497>What is ACTUALLY so wrong with Tangle and WhisperFans of other characters are jealous?
>>733867201Lol, right. Your views were molded by billionaires, poulpular media, and celebrities. You are truly an individual.
>>733867318Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>733867063>So bad at being a jobber she just reforms into being an Anti-heroI'm fine with that
>>733867216ah yes, the arc that doesn't endYes, it goes on and on, my friendSome people started shilling it not knowing what it was,And they’ll continue shilling it forever just because
>>733866497Because their gayness is now their only real personality at this point: Tangle went from being an outdoor sporty Tomboy like character with a unique gimmick of her tail to basically being Whisper's crying rack. She pretty much does not leave her side to the point where they never show up without one another now. whisper a is a industry plant they kept on trying to force the coolness factor but when they realized the sniper character couldn't do any actual sniping They tried focusing on her edgy back story and in turn ended up killing her archrival way too early so now she really has no personality outside of being a crying traumatized soldier that like I said parasited onto Tangle
>>733866497Character mascot driven IP. What if Pokemon made it clear that Charizard wants Mr. Mimes penis? Tentacool supports gay rights? Geodude is a pedophile?Like Pokemon, Sonic is for children who pick what they like by color. A child is wearing Knuckles shirt, not because they're showing support for BLM, but because they like that he is red.
since people are talking about the extended sonic cast I cannot for the fucking life of me understand why silver even gets mentioned anymore'06 was a fucking embarrassment, his gameplay was buggy and shitty, its arguable that he's one of the most made fun of part of the game (ITS NO USE), he's a bland bootleg trunks, he's just a fucking ugly design, and to cap it all off his existence fucked up and retconned blaze's backstory to something way less interesting.like the rest of 06 was completely obliterated from the timeline, even mephilies who in shadow generations has a literal plot point about being DENIED the ability to come back to the main canon, because thats just how fucking terrible 06 is considered, yet this retarded uncolored character template still gets to show up constantly. I don't get it.
>>733858908Tails is a cute girl
>>733867536Some guy at Sonic Team won't let him go.
>>733866158Im afraid we'll just have to stick to the fangame bunker and let the official stuff crash and burn.I think advance 2 recomp is almost done! And p06 is on its last major update.
>>733867536because his Rivals version robs Tails
>>733865908I'm chalking it up to Sega just not wanting to stir the pot, the minute they have an official gay couple, is the minute a bunch of websites start talking about it, then that spreads to normies, and with how terminally online the current administration is, someone in government is gonna throw a hissy fit.For me, if they're gay, they're gay, just make them fun to read about again, I LIKED Tangle and Whispers introductions before they were glued at the hip. Not even Bunnie and Antoine were always this stuck together, and they got married.
>>733867536Silver is shit but they want you to care about him just because he's a hedgehog.
>>733867250>insert Marine>age rating increased
>>733867063Her being a jobber is a good direction to take her.'cuz of course she can't beat sonic, she can't escape Starline, she can't get better... That's not even bringing up the stunt Kit did to make her look good... What if someone finds out about that?It seems you've missed the point of this character completely.
>>733867536>since people are talking about the extended sonic cast I cannot for the fucking life of me understand why silver even gets mentioned anymoreSonic Forces just shows Sonic Team despite pretending to care about their canon will just arbitrarily include characters even if it makes zero sense.
>>733865908>>733866082>>733866265>>733866543You guys should see one of the latest issues because you have no idea how bad things really are. It involves a nonbinary character and has the least subtle allegory ever. Literally a kid crying that his parents don't like him being influenced by strange shit he sees online and the parents are supposed to be the bad guys here.
>>733867712They never followed up on her schizo starline visions, no clue why they just dropped him
>>733866543I remember reading a jew got into ceo position in some sega branch. Plus they have the holywood money flowing in so shareholders wont give a fuck either.
>>733867480>and in turn ended up killing her archrival way too early so now she really has no personality outside of being a crying traumatized soldier that like I said parasited onto TangleAnd said rival was ALSO given a weapon he can't fucking use in a kid targeted franchise. Who's bright idea was that?
>>733866497from what I can tell as a casual, it's not just because they're gay. Moreso it's that they're gay and boring.
>>733867785Ian. Poor guy so wishes he was still writing Archie.
>>733867761Sonic Sez: Hey parents, let your kids get groomed online! This is considered canon by the way.
>>733867512A shame that even kids can't even have escapist entertainment anymore, they have to be flooded with LGBT crap 24/7. Kids can't just have fun anymore because of these people.
>>733867851This is how it ends, the entire thing is as subtle as a brick to the face.
So is anyone going to have a fun storytime for IDW like the good ol' or do I have to read it on my own like the bad ol' days
>>733867851It's soo fucking blatant and then they come on here and try to gaslight others into thinking it's not happening. Fucking disgusting, sub-human behavior.
>>733867851my Sonic would never be pro-grooming
>>733867761>>733867851>>733867918Dude, that's not even BAD.What sucked so hard was how quickly things turned over, ONE line of dialogue was enough to fix every problem. It's also disingenuous to bring this up because this "arc" is the LOWEST point of the comics, nothing ever got THIS bad.
>>733859431They don't have voices in the game where it matters the most? HOW DOE SEGA FUCK THIS MUCH UP?!
>>733867250You know it's bad when most Sonic fans forget the fact that Marine has Hydrokinesis WAY before Kit did.
>>733867105People don’t like that because le mecha is in, they like it because it tells an actual story.Mecha being depressed and self hating makes sense as a trashed prototype metal sonic so when they actually go to the island of old eggman robots it’s not, wow it’s thing like frontiers, it’s thematically relevant. It’s not art or the best thing ever but it’s solid
>>733867956you're forgetting about the gay camping arc that took months to finish because for some retarded reason it rotated its release with the mini coming out each month
>>733866930>Because Ian and Evan are trying to push propagandaI sniffed it out the second I looked into Frontiers and every anon under the sun yelled at me that I was crazy and pretend they didnt get it no matter how I explained it.It was exactly this >>733864417
>>733867761>>733867851
>>733867536>he's a bland bootleg trunksBut that's why he's still around. They wanted him to be main character material!
Anal sex with tails
>>733867536Honestly because he's a hedgehog and Sega knows he has POTENTIAL! ...which they procced to ignore and never use him for anything. If we ever get a Year of Silver, I'll be in my 50s.
>>733868065>for some retarded reason it rotated its release with the mini coming out each monthSega only has the manpower to approve one issue a month. Or, more accurately, they only care enough to approve one issue a month.
>>733867712>That's not even bringing up the stunt Kit did to make her look good... What if someone finds out about that?See >>733867771This character has been so badly utilized they are killing her potential in real time and they don't realize it. The fact they even addressed her inconsistencies In a fan questionnaires shows the team knows they can't even hide the discrepancies but its clear they don't want to stop and have a fully fleshed out plan with this character to this day so if they're not going to care about her why should I?>>733867464They have squandered her potential so much even if she goes antihero she's going to be seen as a joke at the best of times or a plot contrivance to when she suddenly wins against the hero cast when before she got floored by them before.
>>733867407Didn't know we're calling out /pol/, but okay.
>>733867712>What if someone finds out about that?Her crash out would be immense, and the public would think she was on it as well.
>>733867191Being a stain on the stupid everything is canon shtick is the best thing penders ever did
>>733864409I got this one if you're interested.
>>733865565I kneel
>>733867785>And said rival was ALSO given a weapon he can't fucking use in a kid targeted franchiseBoth him and Whisper were nerfed horribly from their concept stage. Mimic couldn't actually be a shape shifting backstabber and with Whisper, her main gimmick of the Wisppon has limited use to anything that's organic' cause we all know Sega won't allow Ian and the team to show her using any of the more violent Whisp attacks against living things.
>Sonic Threads: Classic vs. Modern vs. Archie vs. IDW vs. Everyone Else
>>733868320Honey... lay off the sweets a bit.
Official merch, by the way.
>>733868421
>>73386699125th anniversaryhttps://youtu.be/Uipt68Tghl8
>>733868084You are crazy, you'll continue to be called crazy, so shut the fuck up, you crazy funster.
>>733868573trans btw
>>733866228>gfNot canon
>>733868569God Forces sucked. So glad Sega just ignores it now.
>>733868569The term "flamewar" went away but the flaming wages on...
>>733858908Nuclear melty on twatter and on sthg rn>>733859636sega are lame my man. I miss those guys so bad. SatAM and Archie were kino
>>733868573Say that to the bearded ladies.
>>733868573Ian is a Giant Faggot
>>733868820>on sthg rnHeh, what are they saying?
>>733868919>umm guys. it says "from cross worlds" so they are clearly not canon. they are spongebob tier>guy ok so what tangle and whisper are canon? they are not the same tangle and whisper from idw. they are different characters under Japanese®™ sight, they won't be crying lesbians!>Nooooo my childhood is being butchered by Ian the Flynn and the LGTVs NOOOOOOOOOO
>>733868820>Nuclear melty on twatter and on sthg rnOver what? Sonic characters being added to a Sonic game?
>>733869085So angry Archiefags then?
>>733869085So the same as this thread?
>>733869085>Everything in entertainment is just propaganda now and it's lame and frustrated.Seems like a valid crashout to me, Steve.
>>733869096Yes.>>733869143Nope. angry game purists / jp purists.archiefags are divided between "what about us" like >>733859636. and kekking at jpfags for losing the plot
>>733869143Of course princess here enjoys the IP being pozzed.
>>733869308Princess?
>>733858908I like tails tube actually. It's even canon to frontiers
>>733867536>why silver even gets mentioned anymore As >>733867606 and >>733868091 said, a loser on Sega team still thinks he has potential as a main character for some damn reason>his existence fucked up and retconned blaze's backstory to something way less interesting.Don't remind me, annoying as hell whenever Blaze is mention you have the silver fandom trying to attach her to him Because of their damn shipping war. Even Sega of Japan has said they have a brother sister relationship But they still try to make Blaze a accessory to him when she's the better character all around
>>733869274Being an Archie fag myself, I'm glad it's shelved during this point in time. Ian and Evan did enough damage to it near the end of the running. Same with Chronicles. I'd rather have my favorite stuff shelved and stored, than burned away.
Ian Flynn is my FUARKING HERO, and he's going to save sonic with LESBIANS!!trans btw
I’m so sick of canon. The only thing it should be there for is making sure characters don’t act OOC, shit shouldn’t be a bible to religiously stick too
>>733869406Fair. I like to think they are not gone for good but decided to take a little nap and skip through the faggotry, then return when the time's more suitable. Problem is they get more obscure as time goes on. they will need a proper re-introduction
>>733869419I'm sure he can pound tight virgin male assholes with no lube like no other. Hero indeed.
>>733869538Well, not right now, that's for damn sure. I'd rather be obscure and/or forgotten than be associated with this pozzed shit.
I'll let this post decide if I read the comics or not. If the post ends in an even digit I'll read it, if it's odd I won't, and if it ends in dubs, uh, I'll draw porn of some of the characters
>>733869789Ok I'm not reading the comics
>>733869789read Fleetway
>>733869789Read it. Just to form your own opinions.
>>733869085So just what every sane person is saying but with some added cope sprinkled in instead of the hard stance on the series having been infiltrated
>>733869858IDW doesn't deserve to be read by anyone anyway, you saved yourself a headache.
>>733869897Not all of us are blinded by cope, we know the score. Ian and Evan are activists who need to be fired before they do anymore damage to the IP.
>>733869789Some autists voiced the first 2 arcs on youtube. Thats a way to circumvent what you wrote. Usually people feel the first arc is pretty lame but give it a pass because its the first one and stuff, and then you get the metal virus and its like holy shit this is garbage and you drop it until someone shills you scrapnick island and you might look into it and likely enjoy it a bit but not enough to ever return to the comics
>>733869789Read the Fleetway comics
>>733869897>sane>Sonic Fans on 4chanPick one and only fucking one.
>>733870036At this point I'd just rather sega go under and for sonic to somehow end up in the public domain.Sad I dont have fuck you money to save him.
>4chan users complaining about “sexual degeneracy”lollmaolmfao, even
>>733870290I guess we have to wait till the next tranny loses their mind and takes it out on their parents and on schoolkids before people like Ian and Evan are punished for what they're doing.
>>733870407>False equivalence Does /v/ like that they're /pol/infested?
>>733870407I just hope we get new writers around 2030
Never forget that Ian is just a massive yuritroon, to this day I feel bad for Sallybros having to see their girl get dyke'd in real time.
>>733867536>he's just a fucking ugly design,
>>733870482Try all of 4chan. /pol/ was a mistake.
>>733870179As long as Vanguard and Blackrock keep funding this crap, sega ain't going under anytime soon. There is no "free market".
That's right, we're all /pol/ on /v/! Heil motherfucking hitler and shit! You may kill yourselves now!
>>733866497Because it’s warped around their homosexuality. That’s how it always ends up. It’s not enough for these idiots that these characters exist and are shipped together. No it has to be official. And then every interaction they have must revolve around them being lesbian. It. Happens. Every. Single. Time. Because these retards have zero sense for subtlety or nuance. They feel the need to loudly scream and shit it down your throat. Which ultimately distorts the writing around homosexuality. This is a franchise about a blue supersonic hedgehog stopping an evil mad scientist shaped like an egg from conquering the world. Not your shitty fucking lesbians and their stupid-ass relationship drama.
>>733870036>who need to be fired before they do anymore damage to the IP.>Ignores the kidification of Sonic in the movies>Ignores the series desperation for more crossover tyin event to boost their popularity and keep interest in the series>Ignores how Sega's mandates have strangled the comics to the point where they can barely do short stories without Sega overriding themAnon I.....
>>733870482>>733870534Struck a little close to home, eh? You know I'm right and that makes you uncomfortable. Good.
Reminder that Sonic is a natsoc franchise
>>733858908someone post it
>>733870635sega wouldn't be struggling soo hard if they didn't adopt DEI shit. Maybe more people would buy their shit if it wasn't all tailor made for LGBT people and old women.
>>733870407Dude you’re posting this on a website that prides itself on being host to some of the most degenerate content on the clearnet. Your moralfagging is misplaced to a comedic degrees
>>733870407this post really has them rustled.
>>733867536The actual reason is because he’s one of the top 3 most popular characters in Japan. Every other answer is just retards being retarded. If SEGA thought he had ‘potential’ he would have shown up in something outside of a spinoff in the past 20 fucking years.
I fucking hate IDW
>>733870834Yeah but do the losses outweight the blackrock bribes going into the top guys' pocket?That's the equation that matters and we don't have access to that. Then again sega being retarded isnt anything new so who knows.
>>733870671>I need to do my daily political crusade on the video game board. >Oh and Sonic goes fast, I guess.
>>733870957every time I hear about whats popular in japan they always seem to have fucking abhorrent taste
>>733870867Maybe tell Ian and Evan to stop putting LGBT, Trans acceptance shit into things that supposedly made for kids then. Otherwise, they're part of the problem by pushing this nonsense onto impressionable people. People like Ian and Evan are partially responsible.
What annoying set of characters
>>733871039He says, posting on a thread called Lesbi and Lesbo the totally not Lesbians in your former shonen kino franchise
>NOT CANON NOT CANON THEY ARE NOT CANON. I WIN. YOU LOSE.>uuh OK. *mains Tangle*
>>733871071Your hands are gonna start bleeding if you clutch those pearls any harder, bud.
>>733871135Lore Team we have a fucking problem
>>733870926Reminding them that the concepts of "consequences" and "accountability" exists tends to do that.
>>733871135Poor kid holding out hope. Hopefully this will be a lesson to not be invested in corporate slop and learn that thing I like = cannon, thing I don't like = blasphemy
>>733871135Betcha he's a Sallyfag
How does he just keep winning?
Who?
>>733871147They'll bleed as much as Ian and Evan's hands are right now. =P Every Trans person that loses their shit, is by extension their doing for putting nonsense in peoples' heads. I can't expect these psychos to really care though, not you.
>>733870785>>733870571Trying too hard.>>733871071Oh shut the fuck up. Like do you hear yourself? This isn't your goddamn soapbox, crusader.
>>733871302eggstein
>>733871290everyone correctly pointed out he was just the fall guy for the ultra rich right up until they started pinning minuscule shit on him like micro-transactions or gay porn and suddenly that shit took off because people can use it to shit on things they didn't like.except for being behind the /pol/ board but that doesn't get talked about nearly as much for some reason
>>733871262>>733871272randomfox is a sthg resident and he has a full time job shilling japanese media and shitting on archie and satam. he believes if something is made by sega of japan or a japanese person, then it's automatically good, no questions asked.>picrelbomb dropped on jpfags
>>733871356Tell Ian and Evan to get off theirs first, otherwise I'll keep calling out their bullshit.
>>733871356Seething.
>>733871430
>>733871505Ha
>>733871430>he believes if something is made by sega of japan or a japanese person, then it's automatically good, no questions asked.Tendentially correct. Shame Japan is getting fucked too now.It took longer because of geography, language barrier, ruling class priorities and higher level of health than the west. But they can only hold on for so long.
>>733871430>he believes if something is made by sega of japan or a japanese person, then it's automatically goodActually thats me, 90% of Japanese shit is Kino
>>733871505More like:
Americans ruin everything from Japan
>>733858908Whispers voice is so hot so lame they didnt voice her in the game
>>733871135>Tangle mentioned in Frontiers
>>733870091Why do people hate Metal Virus? Th part where Sonic get's flung to Blaze's world at the very end was kind of dull, but I was on the edge of my seat throughout everything before that. Seeing everything spiral out of control and everyone trying to manage was cool to see unravel.
>>733871761>Whispers voice is so hot so lameok schizonon
>>733871850>NOT CANON. THAT'S IAN BEING CHEEKY. THIS IS NOT PRESENT IN THE JAPANESE VERSION>picrel>AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>733871879I don't know what that anon is talking about, the Metal Virus arc is the only one I see people actually enjoy other than Scrapnik.
>>733867536Japan voted Silver in this thing that he made it to the top 3.https://dengekionline.com/article/202512/61295
>>733865908>because of PendersYeah, sure, thay's TOTALLY the reason. Definitely not because Sega doesn't want to deal with LGB bullshit LMAO
>>733871927So that's what 40 year old single women do these days when they forget to feed their cats.
>>733872089Its absolutely Penders. So they never have to see crap like this again.
>>733871621>>733871661I consume a lot of Japanese media. (mostly anime)but SONIC Japanese media is mid for those past 20 years. West Sonic media has been mid for a while, too. Sonic stopped being good when Yuji Naka left.>>733872089>Definitely not because Sega doesn't want to deal with LGB bullshit LMAO
>>733871426That would involve /pol/ admitting that they were hustled
>>733871927>THIS IS NOT PRESENT IN THE JAPANESE VERSIONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJ1oOmhHNw&t=172s
>>733872034>No EggmanOLD and WASHED UP
Sonic fans are disgusting losers.
>>733872290
>>733872247Sega has to appeal to that 1% of people and 10% of people with a fetish. Their pachinko machines only make soo much.
>IDW charactersBOOOOOOORINGwake me up when they add the hot princess
>>733872245Name me one single gay couple in the Archie Sonic comics. I'll wait. >>733872247You're a bit stupid aren't you?
>>733872245>Most way past cool!>sonic crying in the cornerAnd "people" somehow take this franchise seriously and have emotional investment in it.
I like Tangle's tight bodysuit, that's all
>>733872427>Name me one single gay couple in the Archie Sonic comics. I'll wait.Sally and Nicole.
>>733872290TANGURU MENTIONED
>>733871879Without going on rant about germ theory which is the whole basis of this.The drama was bad and the tension was faked.Sonic protecting Eggman as he did constantly was completely out of character and only used to motivate a fan service fight with Shadow and to pronlogue the arc further.We can argue whether Shadow should or not have been immune to the virus, but even if I concede he was prone to being infected it still stands that it was established at the start of the arc that he could teleport and thus should never have been taken out by a crowd of zombots. And the fact that he even got into that situation to begin with also required him to act out of character. Badly. They even had an apology over it at the end where he reflects over how stupid he was being. And it was done only because ian didn't want 2 Sonics running around because that would easily fix the issue, so again, fake tension.Then you get the deadly shits getting advertised into your face. Which I also dont care for.And thats just what I remember rn at the top of my head. Pariah did a good video on it. I usually agree with him on 90% of Sonic stuff.
>>733867956Sexiest Rouge I’ve seen
>>733872480I didn't ask for headcanons namefaggot. Fuck off.
>>733872089Sega doesn’t recognize Tangle and Whisper as a couple because they weren’t pitched as a couple. Sega recognizes the two DJs in the comic as butthole bandits because they were pitched as such. The status quo is absolute.
>>733872601Oh, thats no headcanon. They were dykes post reboot. Ian admitted as much.
>>733872480Another reason why I'm glad Archie ended when it did.
>>733872034God damn Metal Sonic is still one of the coolest things alive, even 30 years after he first showed up.
>"NOT CANON. IDW IS HATED AND WILL GO BANKRUPT">*lobbies are full of dog women and lemur women*>"STILL NOT CANON. IAN SUCKS. FARTCHIE AND IDW SUCK. WEST BAD. JAPAN GOOD"
>mind broken by one single autist on twitter
>>733872646Ian need a re boot to the head.
>>733872610Holy fucking cope. >>733872646Ian's writing and heresay isn't canon as much as he wants and pretends to be. Try again.
Also, Gold the Tenrec in Archie was "either gay or bi", Evan hadn't decided yet. Because she's allergic to heterosexuality.
>>733872247>Sonic stopped being good when Yuji Naka left.If Naka(and the rest of the Sonic Team members who left with him) stayed I feel like the 2010s wouldn't have been ass, with that being said I love the storybook games, ZG, and Unleashed
>>733868114>>733867536THE POTENTIAL HEDGEHOG
Yup, Archie never had crying lesbians, no sirree.
>>733872891But Sally doesn't cry about her feefees every other panel which is common in idw. only when she fucks up big time like in your panel
>>733872891Because of Ian and Evan. I'm really fucking glad Archie ended when it did.
>archiefags >defending Ian's gay bullshit>everStop larping
>>733868320Let’s keep the Honey Cat Chain going in this thread.
>>733873075Archie doesn't belong to Ian's gay shit. HE added that shit in and Archie failed because of HIM.
>>733873238That's what I'm SAYING NIGGAArchiefags don't like Ian, never have.
>>733872832Best Silver is the one from Tails Gets Trolled
>>733873296Hopefully the dude ends up driving drunk during a foggy evening.
Archie was a straight heterosexual comic.>>733873296From what I hear, they did until the reboot. some criticize the way the old continuity ended. others hated on him for ending sonally, thinking it was his decision while it was sonic team's. but it was indeed his decision to make her a sesbian
>>733872826We at the very least would not have gotten lost world which already would have been a massive win
>>733858908I do not care unless they're in mainline games. I will not care about the comic storylines either unless they're adapted into games.
>>733868640Whisper and IDW constantly reference Forces. It’s the most relevant game to Sonic’s current identity somehow.
>>733872720I tend to forget how autistic this fanbase can be.The eternal seething over Archie vs. IDW continues to elude me. I don't think I'll ever understand why people have decided to make it their hill to die on, but then again we're dealing with literal autists here
>>733873296>>733873238what sort of schizo revisionist nonsense are you trying to pull here
>>733873682It's a literal fact. Ian was proud of that change. To hell with that piece of shit.
>>733872720>sellout 12345>>>/mlp/
>Archie died because of Ian>that's why Sega has practically handed the Sonic brand over to him
>>733872409The manga is so peak
>>733874014Archie died because Archie (the company) didn't want it anymore. They wanted to focus on Riverdale.
>>733872269>you don’t want your country raped by kikes, blacks, and trannies?>heh, bet a jewish billionaire pedophile made you feel that way
>>733874014>>733874093And who do you think was writing for Archie at that time, you morons?
Aren't you guys a little too invested in a children's franchise?
>>733874165Rapeape is a total faggot for allowing you to infest this place.
>>733874465You will never be a woman
>>733874425NO I AM NOTSHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH
>>733874210Someone who was irrelevant when the heads of the company decided they didn't want to do licensed comics anymore and focus on their own IP.
>>733874425Why are you here?
>>733874425We're not the ones trying to sell Lgbt crap to kids. Get your priorities straight.
>>733874583>>733874532A Bot?
>>733874546because Archie wasn't doing well because of the shit Ian and Evan were doing.
>>733864935Surge is unironically the only thing I give a fuck about in regards to the comics. She has a design that actually feels like it fits in with the Sonic verse but her backstory and Kit are garbage.
>>733874726They turned her into a complete joke.
>>733874723>Archie wasn't doing well because of Ian>so Sega practically handed the Sonic brand to him
>>733874723>because Archie wasn't doing wellwasn't that because of the megaman crossover?
>>733874723The sales were fine. Archie just wanted people to remember Archie (the character) existed and were sick of people only focusing on Sonic. Which is like, the opposite of what you said.
This is honestly the last straw. Don't know anything about these characters, but they seem like they're Tumblr OC tier, and Tangle is especially insufferable. We could've given characters like Espio or Rouge more screen time in games than this crap.
>>733874726unironically yeah the idw cast is really overdesigned but surge is fairly minimalist
>>733874210Irrelevant. The cancellation of Archie Sonic came about with the one-two combo of Archie overspending on World’s Unite and the Sonic brand being in freefall at the time.
>>733872427Rotor was gonna be gay iirc
>>733874791Sega has no idea what to do with Sonic. They just throw shit a dartboard and hope it sticks. It’s why they had Arin Hanson as a brand ambassador despite him hating the series.
>>733874967>and the Sonic brand being in freefall at the time.But still selling better than Archie's original stuff, which pissed them off.
>>733858908They look like DeviantArt OCs
>>733874791>Sega is well known for making great decisions.
>>733875067They basically are DeviantArt OCs right down to being gay.
>>733858908>/ss/ LGDIntriguing.
>>733874851and Ian pushed the Megaman crossover.
>>733874894The sales were soo fine that Archie was cancelled. Yeah, whatever you say, bud. Keep suckin' Ian's dick harder, maybe sempai will notice you.
>>733875372It wasn't cancelled because of sales, you thick headed dumbass. This has been stated.
>>733874783More reason to bring her into the games with a completely overhauled backstory that completely ignores the comics>>733874930Yeah it's really good. It's a shame she's stuck with the comic bullshit.
>>733874425Mickey Mouse DBZ with Mecha Elements please understand
>>733875295Worlds Collide, yesWorlds Unite, no
>>733874791>>733875295You are fucking retarded
>>733874726her backstory rules, wtf do you mean?it's why she's likeable>>733874783that's her appeal
>>733875436Yes, I'm sure companies just loathe when their IPs make money. Oh jeeeze. Give it a fucking rest.
>>733875503>"Sissy hypno from a gay duck rules!"retard
>>733864232>Mickey Mouse+Dante>Mickey = Gay and Capitalist >Dante = Outdated Poochie MemeEww Sonic by this logic was never good.
>>733858908>IDW won>Ian wonnice
>>733875494and you're a cocksucker.
>>733875560you.
>>733875540Archie did. Because people were reading Sonic and not even bothering with the Archie line, which pissed them off.
>>733874791>Archie wasn't doing well because of Ianuhhh, right, sure
>>733875503>this is the backstory of everyone's favorite comic characteryou've got to be fucking kidding me.
>>733875684Yeah. It's trash.
>>733875684Trannies find it relatable I guess.
>>733872561How about the fact that the """zombie""" virus isn't actually a zombie virus in that it can't kill anyone because it's a kids comic, so fundamentally the tension is already non-existent? Oh no, Vanilla is infected. Oh no, not Vector! Oh wait, they're actually fine and everything is easily reversable, lmao. Yes you can still do the story but don't have Whisper going into overly dramatic conniptions about Tangle getting infected when we all know she's gonna be just fucking fine. This story might've worked as a pre-boot Archie story where they're allowed to kill characters off, but not in IDW, the comic that's being put under a microscope by Sega, and where nothing of real consequence is allowed to happen. Genuinely, what was Ian thinking?
>>733875445and thematically she works really well with sonic's other rivals. most of the good ones were fake versions of him or animals that kinda look like hedgehogs.
Tangle and Whisper becoming canon is good because the japs will probably write them better
>>733875684The problem isn't the reason, but the way it's presented. It looks so goddamn casual and goofy instead of the helpless despair and terror it should be invoking of being forcibly brainwashed, your entire personality rewritten for the sake of murdering one person and devoting yourself to another you don't care about. And the end result with the panels makes it look like Looney Tunes shit.
>>733875446Its not spelled out for you, but this is the part where Shadow fully decides to believe the memories he has of Maria. Him pronouncing his name here is him declaring he is the Shadow he thinks he is.Even now as an adult this is such an incredibly based moment. comic trannies could never.
>>733875846Sonic Speed vs Lightning Speed could have been cool.Unfortunately Sonic isn't Sonic speed anymore. She could still be a really cool addition with a complete overhaul to her backstory and ditching Kit.
>>733875891We don't need Tangle, we already have Charmy for the hyper annoying character that needs to be impaled trope
>>733875813This is a frequent problem with IDW Sonic imho. They keep trying to be dramatic and "adult" but they can't commit to it so why even bother?
>>733875931Why some of these people keep saying Ian's writing is "oh-so-amazing" is beyond me if this is the result.
>>733875948KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>733875813>Genuinely, what was Ian thinking?Being real with you? My theory is that this was covid propaganda.Shows like One Piece also randomly started to show Roger taking vaccines around that era.Whether ian did it for free because he's retarded or if he actually got told to do a virus story to panic kids and make them want a vaccine I have no idea.
>>733876006Tangle is supposed to be like part 1 naruto, shes a loudmouth tomboy who gets in over her head
>Be Ian>Starts repairing Sonic and Sally's relationship that got wrecked by Penders' autism and Bollers' slap>Do a whole build up arc as a side plot>ship Sally with that wu-kong guy and have Sonic break up with Fiona>FF 4 years later>Make them finally realize their feelings for each other>Finally have Sally and monkey khan break up>Sonic and Sally are back together>Sonic team jumps in in the same year. "ummm Sonic can't be in a relationship with anyone. sorry">FF 2 years later and going>"THEY ARE LESBIANS"
>>733875948>>733876074Its why, even if Gens X Shadow isn't a particularly bad story, I would still have rather he never met Maria again.Leaving it ambiguous what was real or not makes it more interesting.
>>733876031Ian USED to be good. Anyone with a brain can vouch for that. Hell, I remember being one of the people who was ecstatic he was gonna work on the actual games. Archie Sonic wasn't a masterwork or anything, but it was GOOD and not full of the melodramatic bullshit Penders tried to steer with. It was unironically enjoyable, if not cheesy. But something just changed. To this day I still have no idea what did. He just lost his touch entirely and became focused on the wrong things and is actively damaging the franchise. I wish I fucking knew why he turned out this way.
>>733875891>the japs will probably write them betterIan has written pretty much everything Sonic since like 2020 besides Murder and Superstars
>>733876119That's not a good thing, anon
>>733876275Feminism and LGBT shit for sure. The dude has been consumed by it.
>>733876275he's a former SA goon
>>733876327that IS a good thing, I like shonen heroes
>>733876275A bit of sega being too controlling with a pinch of ian being burnt out.
>>733876275>Ian USED to be goodAre you sure? I remember a time where I was willing to see "the comic guy" give it a shot because of how sick I was of Pontac and Graf. But I had never analyzed his works like I have done now.
>>733876404I wish it was just that, but nope, the dude clearly wants to push lgbt shit in everything he writes.
>>733876401You get the naive shounen trope WITHOUT the character building. The naivety is only good when the character grows out of it and matures.
>>733876404>sega being too controlling>Ayaaaaa!!! Ianu-san!!! You canno notto haveu Teamu Darko inno youa gamesu!!! Ruju and Shadoweru are notto friendsu!!!!
>>733876585the character is super new, she has time, and like I said, i'd rather izuka do it than flynn, so this is good for me
>>733876530Of course Ian was bullied in school. That makes a lot of sense. He shouldn't been bullied A LOT more.
>>733876530If that's actually how Ian thinks of Sonic then he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.Sonic's ENTIRE relationship with Tails is predicated on Tails getting bullied and Sonic being a chad who picks him and helps him become a chad himself
Never Forget & Fuck /pol/fags
Live long and prosper, /pol/GODS
>>733876727Ian's such a loser, he'd never be able to build himself back up so he takes his anger out on "the jocks" out of petty revenge. The World is cursed because of little bitches like him.
>>733876841What's wrong with this?
>>733875167There are some literal DeviantArt OCs that have appeared in the comics.Artist for issue three put her OCs in as background characters on a few pages.
>>733874897Espio has literally nothing going for him
Just let the thread end guys -_-
>>733876651>She has timeAnon, Sonic characters outside of Shadow never have development in the games. If anything they regress, especially ones like Tails.
>>733876727>Sonic being a chad who picks himNot even that. Sonic didn't baby Tails. He didn't beat up his bullies and go "hey buddy wanna come destroy the patriarchy" like morons on twitter think.It was inspired by Piccolo and Gohan. Tough love.Tails was inspired by Sonic's speed, started following him, Sonic noticed, some times slowed down to check on Tails and it grew from there.
>>733875891Japa haven't written anything Sonic related since Forces.
>>733876905Take their dick out of your mouth.
>>733877173At least he's a tortured poet
>>733877251
Death to all gays desu
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER, /pol/GODS
>>733877173He's the one with the most potential. He can vanish and he's an actual Ninja, Charmy and Vector hold him back. He'd be better suited with Rouge since she also does stealth work.
>>733877251>>733877316That's an even worse look for Ian lmao
>>733877361It's pretty obvious that Espio is unusually uniquely skilled to be working with a bumbling detective and a very young kid, but I can't recall or am unaware of any Chaotix lore as to why they stick together.Never played through Sonic Heroes, didn't enjoy it.
>>733877334>>733877317
Live long and prosper, /pol/gods :)
>>733858908>TANGLE!? CANON!>WHISPER!?CANON!>SURGE!?CANON!>KIT!?CANON!>JEWEL!?CANON!>LANOLIN!?CANON!>BELLE!?CANON!I FUARKING WON!
>>733877531Hating gays is inherent to the human experience.
>>733877453he's like a failed tails that couldnt keep up with sonic, couldnt save himself, and wanted sonic to do all the work for him against the bullies, when he didnt save him ian grew resentful
>>733877526I understand that it's done that way on purpose, but I hate it. Vector and Charmy are annoying and drown him out, and I honestly wish to see the Chaotic disband. I wouldn't mourn if Charmy just went MIA permanently.
NATSOC FRANCHISE
>>733877637so is sucking cock
>>733877685It also took me like the past year to realise Espio's name was a pun on Espionage.
>>733877685SonicTeam shill made this post
>>733877814If you're a woman.
>>733877814you sure do like talking about cock, gayboy.
>>733877826Except I'm rooting for Espio to be the remaining one, not XD crocodile
>>733877921thats how he lures you to come along. Then when your usefulness runs out BANG
>>733877526Vector has the niche of being someone who's both strong and smartEspio is just diet Shadow, and him being a ninja is played for laughs since they can't show him doing actual ninja stuff in a kids series. So they leaned into him being a weeb who's larping as a ninja
>>733878051>So they leaned into him being a weeb who's larping as a ninjaWhich I hate. I like the characters being honest with themselves rather than hiding everything behind irony.
