This is not looking good... reminder this game has a bigger budget than even Concord
>>734147739I did this.
>>734147739It's a you problem OP.Marathon is a blast, a true return to form by Bungie.They captured lighting in a bottle.
>>734147806>They captured lighting in a bottlefor a single day
who fucking carescan you nufags go shit up reddit with your weird obsession about this tranny game
>>734147739Thank god. Concord 3 inc
>>734147739It's shitting and flopping even harder on console
>>734147767Terrorist
bump
>>734147739server slam is over, you retarded mongoloid
>>734147960>not even brownoids who are usually fans of this shitty ass genre want to play thisgrim
>>734148023
>>734148681cope, bungie flopped bigly. It won’t even reach 1k sales.
>>734147739FuckFUCKI put my life savings in sony stocksAm I fucked?
>The free limited time demo ended>"BTFO CONCORD 3 IS HERE PLAYER NUMBERS ARE AT 0!!"You mean to tell me people aren't sitting on a screen that says they can't play in the hundreds of thousands? Say it ain't so
>>734148681>servers are down retard>still 1,000 people playingCOPE
>>734147739The real problem with Marathon is that they need to sell roughly 3.5 million copies just to break even. That it to say; the game could have 2 million players and still be considered a financial failure. Bungie is retarded.
STAY STRONG MARATHONIANS !
>deadlock has 91x as many players
>>734147806Are we having a blast?Blast status had?
>>734149635>The real problem with Marathon is that they need to sell roughly 3.5 million copies just to break even.This doesn't account for mtx. It all depends how much they push their microtransactions. If you have a loyal customer base of 100,000 that regularly spends, its more valuable than selling 3.5 million boxes.
Ignoring OP being a retard or rage baiter and not realizing the demo is over or he did.Final Day had around 20K players.Which is still like more than a 90% drop.Now the Beta was gonna strip all progress so chances are most people stooped playing after lvl 10 so they at lest get the bonus in full relese.But still 150k players on steam from a Big name developer game when it was free is not looking that good.Because question is how many people will actually buy it.
Did you see the streamer freak out over marathon critics? Lol. These shills are so btfo. Paid to play and melt down. Total lol cows.
>>734147739I guess you could say it ran a marathon to the trash xD
>>734149967>mostly whites and Canadians have it highGrim
>>734147767so did i
>>734149991WrongIf you got lv10 and lv30 in the beta you unlock free starter kits and a cosmetic in the rull release so you get an advantage
>>734149680When does this shit show finally release?
>>734147739I both love and hate that the /v/ 4chan meta is now to make the most retarded post you can make, using the most retarded logic possible, and then all the ESLs and third worlders who don't play games at all and just shitpost latch onto the negative-logic shitpost and the 3 people on /v/ with an IQ higher than 75 can't fight the mob of retards because they 1) *want* to shitpost, and 2) literally can't understand the reasons the shitpost is fundamentally logically flawed and incorrect.
>>734150214It was already a grind just to get to lvl 10 for most people.So i doubt most people wanted to grind to lvl 30.It took me 10+ hours to get to lvl 10 and as much as i liked the game i did not want to spend my entire weekend grinding it.
>>734147739Shut the fuck up
>>734149967Why does Mexico hate this game?
So, Bungie closing in the next few years is a real possibility, huh?
>>734150403Loosen up and stop taking the internet so seriously bud. It's just a joke.
>>734149846>If you have a loyal customer base of 100,000 that regularly spends,Those are some incredibly optimistic numbers considering how small extraction shooter playerbases tend to be. Marauders never broke 15k and is completely dead at this point, Hunt Showdown never broke 60k and now averages like 15k on a good day, and Tarkov which is the biggest hardcore extraction shooter averages like 50k players. The only one that's really maintaining 100k+ players is Arc Raiders and that's purely because it's more casual so it appeals to a wider audience.It's basically the whole reason why Bungie is so fucking retarded for sinking so much time and money into a hardcore extraction shooter. Shit was never going to maintain a large fanbase because it's an extremely niche genre. Some people might enjoy the all or nothing style of them, but for most people constantly losing all of their shit every time they're killed on a run is just an exercise in frustration.
>>734150492You don't need to rely on vague Steam concurrents for D2. We have access to the real numbers of actual people logging in daily>Renegades peak is equal to Curse Of Osiris' lows
>>734147739>try game>right out of the tutorial section, 4 matches in a row some level 30 niggers come and 2 shot me and everyone else in my team>for some reason my shield is capped at like 10% and my sniper rifle doesn't bring a player down even after 8 shots>fifth match some invisible robot spawns in and just annihilates us in our shitty free sponsor gear>sixth match a team of players just come in and wreck usYeah I can see why there are only 1k players. I'm glad they managed to find their audience of hardcore pissjug gamers who will whale their game into profitability.
>>734150687Think bigger picture. This was a safe bet, Bungie is being safe. A repeatable gameplay loop is easier to pitch, budget, produce, and ship than another singleplayer or whatever Destiny is. They don't need 100k+ players, they don't even need 50k. They just need 15k, steady cash flow. A big budget singleplayer FPS with multiplayer in today's day and age? Who is that for in a world of tiktok, gacha, etc. Bungie's throwing their hat in this arena and if it doesn't succeed then it's no great loss.
>>734150917Marathon has been in development for 5 years and Bungie is known for having one of the highest burn rate in the entire industry.They can't afford to have this be a small or medium hit; it needs to be a major hit to justify all the money that was poured into it.Not to mention they have Sony breathing down their back wanting to know why they spent $3.6 billion to acquire them
>>734150261March 5th
>>734149492That's how popular it is.
>>734150917My brother in christ, the free playtest was losing 5-10k people a day. the FREE playtest.Even if you compare it 1:1 to Arc, the Marathon playtest had 50% lower numbers and worse sentiment throughout, and now the game is going to cost $40 for anyone to play.Like >>734151164 said, Bungie spent five years on this and probably spent at least 250m, and you're not making back $250m + tip with a daily peak of 50k. Shit, you probably need to do Arc numbers for a year or more to make that much cash back. And on top of everything, you still have to cover your operational costs, so add another 100m for one year. They're fucked.
>>734151164Yandere Simulator has been in development forever that doesn't mean it's a big budget game.>highest burn rateSure in the 2000s.>They can't afford to have this be a small or medium hitThey can. They were acquired for 3.6 billion dollars.
>>734151186>server slam same day as RE9>game releases same day as Pokopiasocial media will be absolutely flooded with normies playing pokemon animal crossingbungo picked the worst timings
>>734149846>It all depends how much they push their microtransactions.With those ugly characters?
>>734150750That is even more grim than I could have expected
>>734150917>140k players is fine>60k players is still fine>40k is fine they will be dedicated >W-w-we only n-need 15k ultra hard core players[You are here]>Just wait till the next season >People will come back for more content>Do you want fries with that?
>>734147739looks like...all the players...extracted....
>>734151512>it's competing with Pokopia, DS2 PC and Crimson Desert Oof
>>734151672I don't have a personal stake in this. No Man's Sky didn't see real returns into what 4 or 5 years later? My contention was saying this was a safe bet, and it is. It's not CoD Infinite Warfare which requires full motion capture, professional actors, writers, cutscene animators, cutscene cinematographers, etc. It's a multiplayer shooter.
>>734151476>Yandere SimulatorI'm pretty sure Marathon wasn't being made by one dude. More likely it was 100s of people in one of the most expensive cities on Earth.>Sure in the 2000s.No. It's still been true in recent years. Sony's COO Hiroki Totoki has even made comments on it and it's led to massive layoffs at the studio>They can. They were acquired for 3.6 billion dollars.Yeah and Sony expects a return on investment.
>>734151512I swear some companies choose the dumbest fucking days to drop a game. Like granted it's usually decided far in advance but even still would it kill them to check a calendar for rival releases?
>>734151824NMS actually sold well initially because of the hype. It gave Sean Murray a runway to keep building the game.His studio is also like only 11 people. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than keeping Bungie running.
>>734150917>blowing millions, wasting several years with multiple delays, one of which was almost indefinite, and hiring hundreds of employees on a game in a niche genre that will require additional constant funding for server hosting and maintenance plus server administrators is somehow a safer bet than a single player game developed on a reasonable budget by a reasonably sized team that requires no long term financial investmentI don't know what you're smoking but you might want to lay off it because it's clearly causing brain damage
>>734150675It's not a joke, it's all of 4chan now. It didn't used to be like this. This used to be a fun place where people has fun. Now it's a seething ragebait machine where everyone wants to jump in on the shitpost now matter how little sense it makes.
>>734147739this board will look really stupid when marathon sustains 300k concurrent players for months.
>>734152461The funtime 4chan of yesteryear had fun times by laughing at Daisy's Destruction streams. You're looking at an incredibly sanitized 4chan. People are having fun right now by laughing at a dogshit company making dogshit decisions. Nobody other than your breed of newfags is seething and getting "ragebaited" whatever that's supposed to mean.
>>734150917>Bungie's throwing their hat in this arena and if it doesn't succeed then it's no great loss.It's got 900 West Coast Americans under its roof to feed.
>>734147767Wrong... we all did this :)
paid streamers are like:
>>734152697>Nobody other than your breed of newfagsI've been here for 20 years.
>>734152505Which it will.
>>734147767>>734150112>>734152924Brothers...
>>734152461sorry chud it's very important we have actual thinking and critique!!
>>734147739>bigger budget than even ConcordWait really?JFC what devs think its a good idea to spend more than 250m and over 9000 years dev time on a game that is not GTA levels of popular.Its amazing it took the gayming market this long to cool down. So many people just play the same few games. Because like its just so fun to spend a decade+ on a game. Update after update getting really gud at a game. Also the prices of games is getting insane especially when you throw in shit quality passes DLC seasonal shit loot boxes fucking wasting money on just skins&items that are basically quality of life shit that should be patched in for free monthly subs etc etc etc etc.Game companies going full on kike making so much money from a few whales. While claiming they dont have money to make real updates. Making millions every fucking month. Hiring the worst devs imaginable to worok on the fucking game. Releasing shit content after shit content that only the most mentally retarded whales stay because they have spent so much money on the game. They cant sell their accounts to someone for money. Bceause the games playerbase keeps (((nosediving))) thanks to the greedy shit qaulity. Yet they keep upping the prices to shit and shrinking stuff in game.>Record profits>Lowest number of players since release>ITS A SUCCESS GUYS BUY OUR STOCK>THE NUMBERS ARE TOTALLY ONLY GOING TO GO UP>OUR WHALES ARE SO ADDICTED IT DOESNT MATTER IF WE CANT GET ANYMORE WE'LL KEEP DRAINING EVEN MORE OF THEIR MONEY SOMEHOW GOD KNOWS WHERE THEY GET IT FROM BUT THEYLL GIVE US TENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.>WHILE ALSO BUYING GOLD/ITEM SELLERS THE SAME AMOUNT ALL SO THEY CAN BE IN THE TOP 10 PLAYERS
>>734152992https://youtu.be/ZIMJAejEuo0?si=fvw0JzsCMrLavqmE&t=4804You just know this fag will be shilling it non stop calling it "the next big thing" until his sponsor over.
>>734147767I didn't because I...Well, you understand
>>734152697You're a repulsive piece of shit prone to the false consensus delusion like all other pedos I knowI was here the whole timeI watched your cult die
>>734153619paid streams should be illegal. it's literal paid propaganda.
>>734153943It's an ad, a sponsor, and labeled as such by law. You're just dumb.
>>734153940You weren't even born yet wannabe moralfag.
>>734150403This is a good post but I have no fucking idea what it is doing in a thread mocking an absolutely terrible game predictably eating shit. There's like 100 other threads up right now it would fit better in.
>>734153943And unpaid propoganda would be okay?
>>734154047Pretending to be enthusiastic and a real fan of something because you are paid to is disgusting and should be illegal. At least with commercials there is no pretense there.>>734154143Fuck off moron
>>734150492One can only hope!
how does it keep happening? how do none of these devs realize that their work is going to flop hard when it's obvious to anyone outside of their bubble that it will?
>free weekend ends>work week begins>number drops to just those who bought and are unemployedBAN steam chart threads.
>>734154115because it was made by a moron that cooked up the term negative-logic.
>>734154403>being this retardedThe beta is over, so the player count is going to zero.
>>734154179>Fuck off moronSays the idiot that gets fooled by marketing. Oh, excuse me, "paid propaganda".
>>734154527Fuck off moron
>>734154526retard shill. If it was popular itd have high count to the endBAN tranny freak shills
>>734154753Ah, the mark of a genius. Just repeating the same phrase over and over again. No rebuttal or debate, just insults. But maybe I need to make more of an effort to reach across to this most intelligent individual. PEOPLE ARE PAID TO LOOK ENTHUSIASTIC IN COMMERCIALS. ACTORS, CELEBRITIES, POLITICIANS, ETC. THE SAME AS STREAMERS. THAT YOU RECOGNIZE COMMERCIALS AS MARKETING BETTER THAN STREAMERS IS A FAULT OF YOUR OWN MAKING. THEY'RE THE SAME THING. MONEY IS MOVED INTO THE POCKETS OF PEOPLE TO MAKE A PRODUCT OR SERVICE LOOK GOOD. Now, if you wanted to be, at least, a truly principled individual, you would say "all marketing should be illegal". Or just ban capitalism.
>>734147739Blast-having bros, what happened?
>>734155090Fuck off moron
>>734155219Keep saying it...
was the server slam a mistake? people who tried it and saw they didn't like it are not going to buy it now, meanwhile without it was possible that they were going to buy
>>734155167the other half only gets two hours of screen time with their shitty social credit boosting game.
>>734155350Well, there's the example of Highguard.
>>734155090>capitalism is when you hire shills to make your product look goodI never thought I'd learn about the free market ideals of ancient Babylon on /v/.
>>734155350This is why game demos stopped being a thing once vidya went to shit. Demos used to generate hype because people would want more, now devs avoid them because they will make players realize how shit the game actually is.
>>734147739shut down with in the month
>>734147767you did nothing!wait... holy shit.
>>734155565>just had a massive demo slam on steam>single digit IQ person on /v/ claims demos dont exist anymore
>>734155650...dude...think before you post...
>>734151476>Yandere SimulatorIs this really what you have to compare Marathon to for it not to lose the comparison? Really?
>>734155350I think it was a failure from the perspective of 'lets stress test the servers' (since they didn't break 150k), but probably a success from a free marketing perspective. Because if it didn't happen, you'd get more people potentially buying the game on launch, but also way higher refunds when they realize it isn't for them. The perception of the game wouldn't change either way; it just came out earlier with the playtest.
>>734155650Read it again
Genuinely don't give a shit about this game and am not even gonna buy it but what's with faggots here being disingenuous rn? The beta is over it should be at 0. It's peak for a demo of a game not even out is pretty good at 140k+. And it managed to retain 50k all weekend. Again not the official release so there's less incentive to continue playing
>>734155525I don't know what you mean by the Babylon jab, but yea. Capitalism is when you hire shills to make your product look good. >want to create business to make good or offer service>sell idea of business to people>people give you money to start business in hopes of getting a return on their investmentMarketing the idea of the business is key to getting the capital necessary for capitalism and you can sell that idea better when you pay people, or promise payment in some form, to help you make that a reality. But we can go even more fundamental than that. Marketing is simply a branch of persuasion. Convincing someone of something they otherwise would not necessarily have been convinced of. And its the most non-violent and transparent way of doing it.
>>734147739It's not out yet.
>>734149967>didn't make it into the top 25 anywhere How the fuck? >outside the top 50 in continental EuropeAre there even 50 games on the Playstation?
>>734155737?? he is right
>>734149991The number of players kept going down every day. That was a free demo for a controversial game people were curious about. How many will be returning when the price of entry is $40? Overall the server slam did more harm than good, confirming people's negative first impression, leaving only Bungiecucks and Blast havers™And I simply don't believe it will bring in new players, the game is too niche to attract normies and pull big numbers, both in artstyle, gameplay, and difficulty
>>734149991>Ignoring OP being a retardYou're not very good with percentages, friend.
>>734150750>actual people logging in dailyPuff, that would mean that those Steam numbers are slightly below half of their total playerbase, based on the estimates of an anonymous expert who is familiar with numbers from 1 to 10. Especially number 4.
>>734155926...dude...
>>734155852I had a feeling it would flow over your head yeah. You seem extremely retarded.
>>734153069
>>734156268go back, stupid nigger
>>734154115I'm someone who wants to see Marathon fail, and I was responsible for reintroducing the plagiarism argument to the new wave of shill Marathon threads. Threads like this one make the Marathon doomers such as myself seem like retards.
>>734155650>just had a massive demo slam on steam>convinced tons of people to not buy the gameYeah, retard. Exactly what he said.
>>734156347And clearly you only wanted to insult me rather than having a debate about capitalism.
>>734155926Would you be hungry if Sally moved the rotating apple?
>>734152924>When de credits end with: And you
>>734147739Chud, through ceasless meditation - that many call doing nothing - has unlocked the ultimate technique: The Brand of Concord. Any game thats branded as Concord X, will be cursed with -9999 luck and will brutally fail.
>>734156368>impotent rageOmmmmm
>>734156394You seem like a retard for caring about actual arguments like this is debate class or something. Garbage like this game is obviously shit for a myriad of reasons everyone here already knows and anyone arguing in favor of it is either baiting or a moronic normalfag that doesn't belong here.
>>734156464Good job puzzling that one out genius. I, indeed, did not wish to have a debate about ANYTHING with a retard who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>734156737I don't know what you were talking about with the Babylon reference. That was the first thing I mentioned. That I did not know about that reference is measure by which you have deemed me undebatable. Because you haven't proven anything else I've mentioned has been beyond my grasp.
>>734156521who
>>734152992Its hilarious because the sponsors are usually one day, so it is the best game ever made and they are absolute blasthavers for the entire 2 hours of the sponsor to never even mention the game again
no one is spending $40 on this shit when they can buy RE9.
>In an alternate timeline Bungie leadership swallowed their pride and stayed at Microsoft, Halo stayed a good game franchise and they didnt bother with these stupid side projects
>>734147739It's the next big thing! Lightning in a bottle! No way this could fail!
>>734156973Whores act like whores. More news at 11.>>734157168"I was soon to change my mind, however."
how do xbox and sony cope with wasting billions of dollars on woke shit that no one buys?
>>734155565demos stopped being a thing because creating an entire separate, smaller branch of your game is a pain in the ass that distracts from main development, and studies show that all games, no matter how good they are, suffer sales loss when they include a demo.
>>734157315With Fortnite.
>>734147767I understand it's ironic to post this, but I'm doing nothing. I don't post about this game dying, I don't think about it, I dismiss posts about it on Twitter. This self-indulgent post is the only time I'll acknowledge existence of this game.
>>734157315>look at me, boy
>>734147739form return blast having i am a to
>>734147739amazing how many retards have literally 0 idea its because the playtest ended, reminder chuddites, its top 3 global seller with 3 days to go till launch
>>734149991>the demo is overThen why are there still any players at all? Honest question because idk.
>>734157624Shouldn’t “THE NEXT BIG GAME (tm)” be ahead of a single player game and fucking uncstrike though?
>>734157624>AAA game with billions of dollars of budget is among the best selling games of the week of it's release when only 1 other AAA game is releasingsame cope trannies used to pretend veilguard was a success
>>734157624Reminder shills, Veilguard was #1 earlier and longer than Marathon was and it still bombed.
>>734157334>you have to create an entirely new game to let people play the first level How does it feel to be an NPC that can just be reprogrammed by a games journalist like that?
>>734157709Bungie people doing their own tests, probably.
>>734157624thats the joke you fucking idiot
>>734157775>>734157778>>734157784cope chuddites and please keep obsessing!remember we are all paid shills, trans, and indian, please keep neglecting your pills, im sure it makes your parents very happy!
>>734157709I think if you start the game before the end and just leave it running.
>>734157880k. see you in the EOS threads in a few months.
it really wasn't bad. doubt I'll buy it for $40 though. not having a pet chicken like arc raiders was kind of the deal breaker for me.
>>734157970>ITS CONCORD 3!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!>but actually it will survive several months post launch>and bungie will just totally drop it because... ITS SO BAD AND NO ONE WILL PLAY IT!!! i like how the goalposts keep moving, first its DOA, then its top seller, now its dead in a few months, keep your coping schizo!
>Muh GaaSlop isn't failing, you are just mean!In what fungus farm are those sorts of 'fans' grown?
>>734150917Nothing about making a big budget extraction shooter only is safe. That's why it's such a strange decision by Bungie and for Sony to have bought them. Destiny 3 would have been the safe bet, or even just a conventional game with multiple game modes for that matter
