>>734249037
You can lay yourself off on the nearest set of train tracks

>Bungie cooked?
If Destiny 2 couldn't kill them, it's going to take more than Marathon

i mean it looks like dogshit?
like unfinished textures


gameplay looks like absolute ass
the market for extraction shooters is oversatured as fucked

>>734249037
Concord 4

we need to rally all runners to buy 10 copies each. i've already messaged my friends on discord asking them to and unfriended the ones that refused. we can't let the haters win.

>>734249108
they've been basically dead for a long time, this is just a vain hope they'll have a company-salvaging hit before sony kicks them to the curb

>>734249037
frfr unc doin the most

>>734249037
Its been in the top five daily sellers on Steam for over a week now. Zero chance it sells that low across all platforms.

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>twatter horse shit thread
sales data is hidden jackass why the fuck are these threads not a bannable offense? everyone knows it will underperform due to how the game appeals to only a tiny minority of tarkov and hunt showdowns audience

>>734249395
Hunt would better gunplay and no cheaters would do crazy numbers though.

>>734249037
>another f2p extraction shooter in a market with not much demand
>mid game people aren't too crazy about
>already has a target on its back for pissing off Destiny fans
>already has a target on its back for pissing off Marathon fans (even if there aren't many left)
>pissing off Bungie fans too, just for good measure
>has a unique artstyle (good)
>has a unique artstyle (looks awful)
>game wipes progress every couple months apparently
>the "holy shit, everyone's invited, let's break the hell out of the servers!!!!" event flopped, from most metrics
Well, at least it's f2p, I'm sure the game can carve out a nich-
-wait, it's not free? $40-60? Seriously? RIP in pepperoni.
F in the chat.
L bozo.

Oh look here's an article about how it's sold 250k already on Steam alone
https://wccftech.com/marathon-estimated-sold-250k-copies-steam-launch-roadmap-revealed/

>90k tops
literally no way in hell lmao, it was maintaining around half of that for the server slam and steam is always a minority of sales for dumb shooters like this

why are outrageoids like this

>>734249210
What's concord 3?

>>734249429
>game wipes progress every couple months apparently
Every extraction shooter ever does this. If you don't the game would be ruined by hardcores dunking on every lobby with stockpiles of the best gear.

>>734249037
If it underperforms, i dont think Sony is gonna shut them down. They paid too much money for them. I think whats gonna happen is Sony is gonna give them a choice. Marathon or Destiny 2, and since D2 is already dead in the water and decomposing, the choice becomes that much easier for them.

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>>734249448
While 250k is a decent number, the rest of the analysis is more negative than positive.
https://alineaanalytics.substack.com/p/steam-next-fests-wishlist-winners

>>734249471
Concord.

>>734249152
The whole game looks like Unity prototype assets yet Reddit and the journos praise the art direction like it's fucking Mona Lisa.

>>734249789
1.2 million wishlists, 30% played the server slam

>>734249108
actually they put practically no money into d2 after forsaken. it was literally all recycled year 1-2 content

where are the whispers? can you show us these whispers? surely you arent just making shit up

>>734250383
The whispers are looking at the steam charts numbers from the test, and pretending that is what it will sell across all platforms.

>>734250458
Even that wouldn't really make sense because if it's maintaining numbers around 40-50k that's actually way more players than 40-50k

I don't think Marathon will be successful enough to Sony's standards unless it hits a massive positive word of mouth campaign with cryo archive and shit but goddamn you can be honest about it

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I didn't know how much my soul craved good art until this game. I pray that it succeeds and the suits learn to be bold, dare to offend, and trust their artists even on huge projects. Hopefully the gameplay isn't a letdown.

>>734249037
>>Needs 7-11M to break even
Has bunger said this themselves?

>>734249452
Server slam was free though

>>734250727
What does that have to do with anything? It is going to sell the vast majority of its copies on consoles.

I have anti woke gaming youtube channels fatigue.

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>>734250757
Are you really incapable of understanding that people will play something for free they would never spend $40USD to play? F2P survives only because it is free and hooks you players with MTX after they try. It is unlikely the vast majority of F2P games that are successful would have been if they had a barrier to entry, aka a price tag, prior to getting people into the door and susceptible to the psychological manipulation for the MTX.

layoff slop is my favorite genre

>>734249037
Just make it free to play. I would absolutely play it more, I'm just not going to buy it. Paying for multiplayer only games doesn't make any sense anymore.

>>734249037
I guess they'll be working on a new Horizon FPS multiplayer game now

>>734250552
This is a joke/bait right? This game has the worst art and designs I've ever seen.

>>734249037
all royale shooter slop deserves to die

>>734251046
I have a feeling it's what some executive thinks appeals to zoomers. Bold, clashing colors with intentional lack of cohesion. It engages you through constant visual irritation.

the game is just fucking hideous man

when do you think the good bungie devs all left?

after halo 3?

>>734251046
if it had gore it would be actually interesting but its cyberpunk+mirrors edge safe slop

>>734249345
Ubisoft's Ass Crap Nip Negro was DoA and topped the selling charts

>>734249037
>layoffs

Americans have it tough.

>>734251454
Sometime between Reach and Destiny 1's expansions.

>>734249037
I want every single person who shares the mindset that led to the artstyle of Marathon to be unemployable in the videogame industry. That's how you save American videogames.

That'll probably require companies like Bungie that are too corrupted to be salvaged to just be shuttered. Maybe Sony can open a new studio in the midwest, hire some based veterans who want to make masculine entertainment, and call it Bungie. But they'd better hurry, because if one more title like this is released under the Bungie name, they'll have spent $3.6B just to lose a few hundred million more.

>>734249421
they didnt even deliver on their no cheater policy because they used battleye again and scripters had working aimbots/esp before the end of the first day of beta lol

>>734249429
>already has a target on its back for pissing off Marathon fans (even if there aren't many left)
Hi there.
Durandal is still one of the best characters in scifi vidya and any chance of him being used well has just been utterly squandered.

>>734249037
it'll have more than that on a single console platform what are the 85iq smoothbrains smoking?

>>734252261
Performance on Steam tends to be pretty indicative of performance elsewhere, especially when it comes to genres that have a large PC install base like FPS.

When it does poorly on Steam but the company claims that it actually did really well, it's always "trust us bro" followed by mass layoffs and bad financial reports.

>>734249152
>the market for extraction shooters is oversatured as fucked
This is cope and will never not be cope. This line of logic never holds up under the many examples of games dropping into 'oversaturated' markets and kicking up a storm. The only thing that matters is if its good. If this game was an amazing extraction shooter, then it would top the sales and syphon players to it, since it was the best on the market.

Calling a market oversaturated is what loser white collar DEI devs say to their higher ups to save their ass from being fired when their shit game flops. Same with 'dead' market excuses or 'well its a sequel to an old game so people didnt want to jump in late'
>BG3 sold like wildfire despite being the third of a line of games none of these people ever touched, despite being an CRPG, a pretty niche and dead genre at the time
>Elden ring sold like wildfire despite "souls fatigue" complaints abound for years prior
>Marvel Rivals super successful despite cope about hero shooters being oversaturated and dying
>mewgenics recently hit it big despite it being a challenging turn based grid game that never sell well outside of the 35yo+ market
>[Insert hit roguelike here] sold well despite literally the biggest market saturator genre right now
>helldivers 2 did incredible despite the "2" and the online only live service system
>WH40K sold incredibly well despite being a 360 era game people would call dead
its all cope.

I love how the best defense shills have is "UH NO, IT'S GOING TO SELL MORE THAN 50K COPIES, IT'S GOING TO SELL (insert comically low number here) INSTEAD".

Your bosses do know that this game needs to sell 10 million copies and have a sustained average player count above 300k to MAKE BACK THE DEV COST, right?

>>734251758
>stop liking what i don't like!
I don't care, not your personal blog.
And there is nothing special about this art style just a typical shiny cyberspunk slop.

I don't play live-service games
I know jack-shit about the business operates, how profit works, etc
That said, don't you need like below 1k players to be in a critical state to warrant being shut down?
Destiny 2 hasn't reached that yet and wouldn't Sony just downsize the studio into a skeleton crew on Destiny 2?
Yeah that wouldn't be ideal for the company (given how much Sony spent on acquiring them) but if other live service games have less players than Destiny 2 (like fucking For Honor and DCUO are still around somehow) and are still around, can't they just keep on trucking like a gutted vegetable?

>>734252790
>This line of logic never holds up under the many examples of games dropping into 'oversaturated' markets and kicking up a storm.
But it does. For a game to do as you say, they must usurp other already existing games.
You can't just drop a game in the genre and gain an audience anymore. You need to take them from other games. And that means convincing them to play your game instead of theirs.

>>734249037
>Can we save it?
Honest question: Why would you want to do that?
Let people make mistakes, otherwise they'll never learn. I'm sure Sony will soften the blow for them and allow them to try (once) again with what they've learned.

>>734249037
>Needs 7-11M to break even
Nah they'll just write it off on their taxes. Sony is a regular for doing that. Tax payer will pay for Marathon.

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this is the dumbest fucking gun design ever
>a fucking rectangle

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>>734249108
>more than marathon
Perhaps an ultra-marathon?

>>734249037
We told you it was trash, you just didn't want to listen

>>734253138
>Nah they'll just write it off on their taxes.
Where is your business that gets infinite money by just "writing things off on your taxes", you financially illiterate monkey?
>Tax payer will pay for Marathon.
That's not how anything works.

>>734249037
I need to guys to prepare for it to do just ok and not be an epic bomb.

>>734250757
Not a guarantee. A high guard dev today said the game was nearly 50-50 on steam and consoles

>>734253246
No it was 3x more on console

>>734253201
>That's not how anything works.
Not how it works for Sony/Bungie or not how it works at all?
Reminder that the Quebec tax payer pays for all of Ubisoft's mistakes and that the big Skull & Bones mistake was funded by the Singapore tax payer.

My instinct tells me Sony already priced in low sales figure projections so Bungie is saved no matter how bad it flops.

>>734249037
I'm going to say it again: it's a trash game. Quit wasting threads for a shit game that no one will care about by April

>>734252925
Yeah, totally. No difference between these hideous characters, these stupid lego weapons (because they hate guns), and the terrible color scheme and Blade Runner/Deus Ex.

You know as well as I do that what you said is absolute bullshit. The people who made this hate masculinity and hate beauty. The former should disqualify you automatically if you need the male customer (99.99% of games do), and the latter should just disqualify you in general. The entertainment industry shills can continue pumping out their list of excuses just like they have for the past decade, but the reality is that these people are killing the western entertainment industry, and they need to be removed.

>>734250552
no we need more realistic unreal slop like arc raiders and e33

isnt it amazing how companies can spend hundreds of millions and make slop because the yes-men in California are afraid to criticize the game?
>concord
>highguard
>marathon

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It doesn't need to sell 7 Million copies you fucking morons!!!
Bungie will be completely fine.

>>734253541
Bungie has been dead since Halo 4

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>>734250552
You must have not played the server slam.
The gameplay was amazing.
Game looks so much more impressive in motion.
Gunplay was so solid, super responsive and juicy with no bullet sponge ttk was close to tarkov type levels.
It filtered so many people.

>>734249037
100k seems low. 100k concurrent sounds more realistic at launch and then whittled down over a couple weeks.

>>734253138
This is stupid. If this were a viable business strategy, everybody would just take out a big loan, spend 5+ years lounging with their Starbucks and wine fountains, release their shitty game, pull it from the market (I think that you have to do this in order to write it off), pay off the loan with the tax write off, and then do it again.

If you're writing it off, you've lost a lot of money.

>>734253262
I actually got that confused with Requiem so no it's not a guarantee that steam is always the smallest platform
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/capcom-makes-the-majority-of-its-sales-on-pc-and-it-expects-the-ratio-to-continue-increasing/

>>734249037
I would think 200k maybe since seemingly sony players enjoy this kind of crap perhaps somewhat more than pc. But I don't think that's enough to save them.

>>734253691
>delusional

>buying skins in a game where you can only see your hands

>>734253183
Well there are attempts at suitcase or pocket guns like that kinda, but the point of those is specifically for concealing them, not really meant for tactical fighting. That just looks retarded.

>>734249037
I played the server slam, it's not a bad game. Could be a 7. But it is a game for sweats, losing a lot will not make it mainstream.

I wonder how much Sony is paying indians to shill this garbage, like highguard.

>>734253691
post an opinion you actually believe in, you coward.

>>734253853
The UI is so bad on console it's basically unusable because they imported the gay controller-mouse thing from Destiny, so they actually really don't have a huge console playerbase like Destiny.

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>>734253897
You do realize how many COD skins there are and just how many people purchase them....right?
Also, you can see the rest of your body when you look down in both games so its not just hands, youre objectively wrong.

>>734253945
There aren't any paid shills here

They're trolls doing it to make you mad, yes you specifically Ryan

>>734253959
Oh, that's retarded. No idea about the numbers then, but I'm also not interested in extraction shooters at all so don't know what that audience wants.

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>>734253010
NTA, but
>BG3 did
>Elden Ring did
>Marvel Rivals did
>Mewgenics did
>Vampire Survivors did
>Helldivers 2 did
>WH40K did

If a game is good, it will beat the snot out of anything else on the market. The anon you're responding to is entirely correct and has examples to illustrate why it is so. You're entire argument is basically "nuh uh, shut up, its all speculative".

BG3 was a massive success, even in a genre of other RPGs like Knights of the Old Republic, Fallout, Mass Effect, Elder Scolls, etc. It brought a lot that was new and fresh to the table. And it's the same with every other game that anon listed and their respective genres.

Say it with me now, because you're entire supposition is just that, supposition; "If a game is good, it doesn't need to beat any other games out of the market." That is the entirty of everything a game is going to boil down to, and the only way a game gets remembered.

>>734253227
>I need to guys to prepare for it to do just ok and not be an epic bomb.
This is the trvke /v/ doesn't want to hear. This game is not going to shut down one month in like concord/highguard.

>>734253945
There was always going to be a niche audience for an extraction shooter that's difficult and is made by Bungie. The biggest problem this game has is that it's not F2P, most people's introduction to the game will be dying and they won't want to pay $40 to soldier on with it.

>>734253958
no lol I won't give you ammo to use against me. You are my bitch now so continue seething.

>>734254080
lil bro afraid of being disagreed with over 4chan

>>734254056
Why do you people just make shit up and then believe it? Bungie is compete shit without Halo, and Halo has barely been limping along for over a decade

>>734254127
>Why do you people just make shit up and then believe it?
That's quite literally the premise of the thread

3 month interval destiny 2 resets will save this game it will be a BLAST Concord 3 bros

>>734254102
>p.....p.....p....please give your opinion so anything you say I will attack and turn the argument back around on you
nope not happening autist continue to SEETHE

>>734254150
if you're this terrified of being disagreed with then perhaps reddit is more to your liking

>>734254147
Except Marathon isn't good. I know it, you know it, we all know it. You're just trying to save face right now to protect your ego, because you know damn well everyone will have moved on in a month.

>>734254056
extraction games are a very small niche

and then this one is not fun and also ugly, why would normies play this regularly? arc is an exception, cause it has enough decent pve stuff to do.

>>734254127
Why do you have such a hard time wrapping your head around the idea that there are people that like the game? Marathon is not a bad game, it's fairly polished and I can see how some people will get drawn into it because it's higher stakes than something like Arc Raiders. But I can also see how people that play Arc Raiders will hate it and it's not something I'm likely to pay for.

>>734254127
marathon threads are the designated shitting street for people to say 2 + 2 = 413 because their entire worldview will collapse if they say it's 4 and someone says they're wrong

>>734254185
You are so angry that you can't use my opinion to attack me and try to invalidate my posts lol

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you faggots are such annoying fucks
god forbid a game tries a unique aesthetic...

the real problem is that this shit cost way too much to make, and its 40$ with micro transactions

and its a PvPvE shit where you unlock skills and upgrades, so you can fight someone who plays for 2 hours a day every day and has every upgrade unlocked and thats just not fair PvP experience
oh and everything resets every 3 months

for me, the game is good, I like the aesthetics, but I cannot imagine myself sinking hours into it to be competetive, and its not even f2p

>>734254257
sperging out because you got called out is not going to make you look like chad based

>>734254338
You will NEVER get anything to use against me and will ALWAYS be my bitch. I hold all the cards here. You have no power. Now continue to SEETHE

>>734254446
you're shaking
bro walk away from the computer and wash your face
you're embarrassing

Still second place in global top sales on steam

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>>734254313
Not a bad take over all but you wrong about someone only playing 2 hours a day being able to have the same level of upgrades as someone who plays much longer.
Or if someone whos skilled played 2 hours a day vs a normie 2 hours a day would not have the same level of upgrades unlocked.
There actually is a skill gap.
I saw tons of idiots being killed by the PVE
and so many others completely garbage at PVP. Then I saw the exact opposite.
The controller users mostly have trouble as this game has a lot of recoil control and snap aiming needed if you dont wanna die. You literally cant stand still and only a few shots from both runners and the pve ai will take down your shield and at least half your health.
Game overall filters people in all aspects, the art, gameplay, systems, etc.
The hate is awesomely funny to those of us who actually enjoy the game.

>>734254491
>the seethe continues
kek

its break even sales prediction would be more than 4 million and lots of cosmetic sales so yeah it is donezo

I actually like the general style of it, but guns are really bad looking and characters are too ugly. Maybe that's intentional to sell more skins.
Still not buying it.

>>734254502
pre orders not sales and that doesn't mean shit when it's only viable competition is ahead of them

>>734254228
Because the people that enjoy this game, not this type of game, this game specifically, are obviously brain dead fanboys or marketing shills that care about brand over quality, which results in the genre and all videos games being watered down to the bare minimum for the sake of shareholders and delusional developers who are just trying to keep their jobs. You may see a good side to the game, but that doesn't outweigh the clear as day negatives it brings to the industry. It's dead on arrival, get used to it, get over it, and move on so the rest of us don't have to waste our time

>>734249452
>it was maintaining around half of tha
you retards don't understand what maintaining means. peaks are maintaining.

>>734254516
bro posts retarded bait because he's afraid of being disagreed with
gets disagreed with anyway
his entire world falls apart
msc

>>734254242
I'm used to people being dumb, just not foaming from the mouth dumb. I guess I need to wake up

>>734254313
>god forbid a game tries a unique aesthetic...
>shit with sprinkles is le good! look at the sprinkles!

>>734253945
They pay the same that e33 pays

>>734254513
Why would you design a game, funded by sony, that filters out controller players? That's incredibly fucking stupid.

>>734254561
I don't understand how a game that is a sequel to a 30 year old niche series has fucking fanboys. It makes no sense. People being casually optimistic or drawn to the art style cool I get it but if you go to some communities like reddit there are people acting like this is the second coming of christ. For a long running series like Resident Evil I understand but not for this

>>734254618
>words words words
keep seething bitch lmao

>>734254050
There seems to be a demand for extraction shooters at least. It's just that nobody cares for weird experiments like Concord or Highguard.

>>734254637
It's not the game, it's the publisher. People still think Bungie it's going to come out with the second coming of Halo.

>>734254671
>seething seethe seething seething
that's all you can say
you're panicking

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>>734254625
/v/ was fun until everyone began falseflagging and no one actually had an opinion anymore
everyone pretended to be a retarded version of someone else and others pretended to fall for it
and then they pretended to be angry to bait other people also pretending to be angry
so you have entire exchanges regarding people who don't actually exist
it's quite something

>>734254706
calm down lol

>>734254767
At least the current shill brigade doesn't understand subtlety in the slightest, so it's far easier to spot them

>>734254823
same for you bro
it's only 4chan

>>734250552
if glitch/vandal looked like this in game I would totally buy marathon, even though it's a shitty pvp game.

>>734254832
half of it is just shitposters desperate for internet arguments and then half of it is people with an active investment in the state of the game

>>734254845
>n...n...no u
You have been seething about me for almost an hour because I pissed you off not giving you an opinion to turn around and use against me lol

>>734254691
God help us if they do we've already seen how they butchered the first one. I could not have given a shit about either halo or destiny even while they were alive and im still looking forward to this shit

>>734249037
>confirmed to at least pocket 6 gorillion dollar in revenue
That's A LOT of money how the fuck is it in anyway grim?

>>734254894
and you've spent just as long because...?

>>734254937
because I am laughing at you lmao. Every reply you do is just copy what I say and reverse it thus why you wanted my opinion so badly to reverse it on me and are mad you can't do it.

>>734254893
Normally yes, but you can clearly see the marketers who don't even use the same type of prose as we do. I'm fine with the trolls, because at least they stir up real discussion. That's half the reason I for here, but at least the trolls come up with good arguments

>>734254930
$40 x 100K is $4M
that is
not good

>>734249037
I'm not into these kind of games, and I do find this whole Concordian saga to be funny, but I believe this will have a moderate success and won't be pulled from service. I doubt they will be able to make the investment back, but it won't be a catastrophic failure, just a regular failure.

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>>734249037
the predicted preorders on steam alone reach 240k

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>>734254937
Funniest thing is you replied to a post I made saying to give an opinion I believed in which my post was a true opinion from playing the slam.
But then >>734254894
That dude you been arguing with replied as me and has been buggin at you for a while now. It is funny him telling you to seethe so much tho! hahaha

Picrel

Yall made my night

>>734254904
They'd have a better chance just making up their own IP instead of trying to co-opt older ones. But they're too stupid to even realize that

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>>734249108
Every one of these spikes is 200-300k people effectively dropping $40 on an expansion, yeah it’s cratered since The Final Shape but you can at least understand why it’s something that had kicked on for a bit. Funnily enough though transferring dev full time to Marathon probably hurt Destiny as well, so in the end it comes back to Marathon.

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>>734255028
yeah i don't get it
i feel like the point of baiting is to not have emotional investment in what replies you get
then he has a 30min long meltdown
4chan is serious shit ig

>>734249037
Nuh uh, it's going to sell a lot and make bungie a concordillion dollars!

>>734255016
I really want to see this board reaction when the game won't flop

>>734255028
It's always fun making these retards seethe who demand you express an opinion because what you said made them mad and thus they want you to say something t turn around on you. Absolutely the lowest IQ 3rd world subhumans do this. Almost all his posts were attempts at effeminate shaming too on an anon board no less as if that works lol

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>>734255229
True. You did good anon.
You are one of the last Waldos left.

>>734255205
It's already flopped buddy

don't reply to yourself

>>734255205
the game will get its audience and the board will just move on, a few threads will be made once in a while and frequented by actual players, the rest of /v/irgins will conveniently forget they called this game doa, probably preoccupied on making threads for other releases they hope will flop

>>734255205
It's not possible for it to not flop. They spent too much on it.

>he's still seething
lmao

>>734255205
do you actually believe the playercount will be higher on release than the completely free 5 day long server test?

>>734252790
>then it would top the sales and syphon players to it, since it was the best on the market.
Not by appealing to the hardcore players which is exactly what they're doing. ARC is popular because it's casual as fuck. Bungie needs hundreds of thousands of players for this shit to pay off and there sure as hell aren't that many hardcore extraction shooter fans waiting around to hop in.

Companies making live service games have sadly drank from the fountain that makes your IQ drop.
They go in way too hard in the funding phase, to the point where the game would have to be a breakout success day 1 or the business fails.

They need to start thinking smaller, and slowly build a community over months or years.

>>734249037
>whispers
>layoff whispers starting
MEDS

>>734255205
nigga it's server test fucking flopped

>>734255409
they're too impatient for that
they want to be the next fortnite and they want results at the end of the business month

>>734249037
250m? There's no way. Man, Sony really was just lighting money on fire in the post-covid area. Probably thought the sales trends would be permanent, had no idea that the culture and landscape would change so significantly.

250m on an extraction shooter. Incredible. Heads gotta roll for that.

>>734253905
I could see guns like these in a sci fi setting, for maximum transportability. No need for custom boxes, just shove them in a box and drop it from the orbit.

>>734249108
Bungie didn't have an expected RoI of over $4 billions hang over their head before.

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>>734249037
>it was sititng at the same place as estoeric ebb
hahaha shills are literally going to fucking rope because it sold the same as some indie game

>>734253897
People who are slightly less retarded than you have this thing called "object permanence", with this magical ability they can make it so that things do not get removed from reality the moment they can no longer see them.
It's dark and evil witchcraft.

>>734255391
Yes just like it happened with arc raiders and battlefield, both got their fair share of critiques during their open demos but both got much bigger numbers on release, battlefield costs 60$ and got 300k more players on steam on release compared to the server slam, this board is coping

>>734255352
see you on EOS where you demand to see evidence people were ever saying it would flop at all lol.

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>>734254313
>god forbid a game tries a unique aesthetic...
Have something from the archives.

>>734255542
Is your mirror covered in paint? Because youre the one coping here little buddy

>>734255542
coping about what loss, exactly?

>>734252908
Isn’t it a similar situation as Veilguard?
Like, that game sold well and had high player counts, but the dev hell was so long and budget so ballooned that it was comically far from ever turning a profit.

>>734255542
arc raiders gained players during its test never crashed below 100k concurrent. maraslop was sitting at 19k for the final days

>>734255536
That game actually looks pretty cool.

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>>734255540
>object permanance
brother behind the first person camera nothing even EXISTS

>>734255352
>the rest of /v/irgins will conveniently forget they called this game doa
lmao yeah this board is so predictable, happened already with other games, will happen again in the future, /v/ermins will chase the high they got from concord for the rest of eternity

>>734249037
>Needs 7-11M to break even
Big if true. If this is the case it's a flop even if it sells well and that would be catastrophic mismanagement.

>>734255673
Does it?
Sure the UI might have a pretty color or two but the gameplay is just bing bing shooty we’ve seen a million times before.
At least Arc Raiders had those huge robot enemies with impressive AI. What does Marathon have?

>>734255702
lol cocky cocksuckers like you were acting the same way with highguard too. neck yourself

>>734255205
highguard just died a few days before this slop launches, and that was a free game.

it is DEAD on arrival.

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>y-y-you HAVE to buy it
>anon
>DEVS will LOSE THEIR JOBS
I know.

>>734255698
Wrong you can see your hands, upper arms, torso, lower torso, legs, feet in game. Just gotta look down. You posted a screenshot from old engine, back then and still most fps games today you are a floating camera and you render whatever the player sees from their perspective only. Just look down in a fps and you can tell which type of camera they are using.

>>734255735
Nah, the indie CRPG.

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Hope it dies, the studio closes, they all get layoffs, and they fuck off to get a real job that's actually useful and tangible to society.

The F2P weekend couldn't hit six digits.
The actual release will probably be lower than the F2P weekend.

It's fucked.

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The red apples will not sell, and their orchards will continue to be closed, until the industry learns.

>>734253541
paypigs chad are going to save bungie from the chuds

>>734255869
highguard just died and everyone assumes marathon is concord 3

and RE9 is great and the new Pokemon/animal crossing game is great, so why buy this for $40?

YOU PISSBABY ECONOMIC TERRORISTS ARE TAKING HEALTHCARE FROM HARD WORKING TRANS FOLX EMAIL RESPONDERS AND FUCKING WITH THEIR THEIR SIX OFFSITE COFFEE BREAKS PER DAY GRIND.

>>734255402
I never played it, but R6 siege seemed like a pretty hardcore game of whatever genre youd call it. You die in 1-2 bullets, fights are quick, 90% of the gameplay is prep and reaction etc
Was never a game for me but id say it was hardcore for what it was, from what I saw
but look at it now. Gays, troons, wheelchairs. Hard to say if this increases or decreases popularity overall, but clearly they bank on it increasing players, otherwise why do it?
If they swapped to inflated HP pools and regen health, im sure they could suddenly appeal to more casual players, which is why every new game is sanitised casualised slop.

though mewgenics is a recent counterpoint, games way to hard for casual normies to play. Wasnt made for them at all, though I also doubt he expected 1 million sales so honestly its probably just happenstance that it did so well regardless of appeal

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>>734249079
>SAAAAAAAAAAR PLEASE STOP SHIT TALKING SONY AND BUNGIE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>734250552
Gameplay was good as well

>>734256005
what a retard
also, kek;
>food analogy
Someone tell this nigger dont sell bad apples with gross bumps on them and expect people to eat them when non-bad apples exist, dont make red apples when people want green apples, dont demand people take your apple just because you tried weel hawud to grow it. They dont owe your their mastication.
And yes, being in a circle jerk of blame diffusion is absolutely killing yourself through toxic positivity reinforcement. Yes men arent going to tell you any of this obvious logic, even in food form.

>>734256415
Explain how the gameplay is better than others in its genre.

>>734255854
One of the major things that makes conservatives eternal losers is that they look at people who write, draw, and sing and say "get a real jerb".

Are you going to claim that all of the anti-white misandrist rainbow flag bullshit hasn't effected your environment? And you don't think that this has a mass demoralization effect or informs people on who gets fired or promoted, etc.? Cultural jobs define the mood of your country and show the world the beauty, philosophy, concerns, and dreams of your people. This has been totally surrendered to the left by the absolute cuckoldry that is the conservative movement. We actually need a mass movement to get people on the right into the arts.
>Good luck getting investors if you want to tell the story of the American people.
This is because of the #1 problem with conservatism, which is that conservatives don't discriminate in favor of their own and don't watch each other's backs. Actually, when the left wing mob comes for their peers, they're proud that they throw them under the bus instead of circling the wagons like the left does. The end result is that people who hate America have taken over every institution while the right can't so much as blink wrong.

>>734256541
I am a leftist and I want this game to fail too

/v/ermin who shat on this game's aesthetic deserve infinite AI-generated bangladeshi pissfilter unrealslop for the rest of eternity

>>734256520
Explain how you're not AIDS-riddled slave faggot

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>>734256670
>if you don't want ai slop, you must accept every vomit inducing artstyle the AAA industry feeds you.

>>734256719
>didn't explain how he's not an AIDS-riddled slave faggot

>>734256736
>didn't explain how he's not an AIDS-riddled slave faggot
Easy, I'm not (you).

>>734256670
Do you even play games?

After a dozen attempts, Arc Raiders has finally become the first game to make a casual extraction shooter work. So that niche is covered.
But I'm still waiting for a successful hardcore extration shooter to compete with Tarkov. Unfortunately no devs aren't willing to try making one. Maybe one day.

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>>734256005
>walk into his yard
>pirate apple from tree
>plant in my garden
>give free copies of apple to all my friends
>watch him seethe from my porch because he knows i took it from his yard but as a personal backup i can make as many copies of apple as i want and all my friends are just looking after them for me

>>734256719
>anything that isn't generic Unreal-engine slop is vomit inducing
saaaaar

>>734249037
Honest question. How does video games even make money? Say a game cost 100 million to make, even with 10 million sales at 60 dollars, and that’s retail price, not what they’re actually selling it for, that’s still only 60 million dollars.

>>734256798
Oh look, another AIDS-riddled slave faggot

>>734249108
Sony will be doing the layoffs.

>>734256853
No, it's mostly just this game. UE is just as garbage but the real hate come from seeing it everywhere. If you put marathon's artstyle on half the AAA releases in the last 5 years, people would hate it even more than the unreal slop.

>>734249037
>The game supposedly has a budget of 250M
How did they spend 250M on a game that is basically a mod for Destiny? They even recycled animations.
This shit should have cost 5M tops.

Oh, right. It's Bungie scamming Sony out of another big sum.

>>734249664
To kill? You retarded or something? Why would they kill finished shit prematurely. They're gonna both enter minimum work maximum payout mode as they work on something new with complete supervision from sony or some other studio, maybe arrowhead.

>>734256897
>can’t even explain what he likes about the gameplay
>just moves to random insults and sperging when pressed
yeah, definitely indian

>>734256872
In games purchases you retard how do you not understand that?

>>734249037
I still think it will do 200k+ for launch, and 150k at minimum. At the end of the day this is a AAA game by a massive and known studio so people will show up for launch. How it performs after that is the real question

>>734256541
Conservatives are infantile subhuman slave golems who make the equation art = pretty pictures. When they experience art depicting something interesting, disquieting or even ugly, they short circuit. This is why they can only make propaganda, kitsch and slop

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>>734254313
>god forbid a game tries a unique aesthetic...
So unique that they had to steal it from a fucking Twitter artist and fire their main art director

>>734257046
>can explain how he's not an AIDS-riddled slave faggot
yeah, definitely an AIDS-riddled slave faggot

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>>734249037
Arc chads, we won.

Visual style is shit. You know what else looks shit and ugly? Mewgenics. But if the game is good is doesn't matter. It does look like shit though, fr

>>734257025
>the one AAA game with an interesting aesthetic with real design pedigree is conveniently ugly to 4slaves
Isn't it significant to you how half the AAA releases in the last 5 years DON'T have this style?
4slaves deserve unrealslop and aislop

>>734256541
>I hope this game fails because it looks like shit
>YOU FUCKING CONSERVATIVE
lol the fuck?

>>734257056
>I still think it will do 200k+ for launch, and 150k at minimum
you people are really retarded. It couldn't maintain 150k for a free beta from Thursday into Friday but it will do better than that because reasons

the funny part is when streamers (paid to play it) have their chats demanding they go back to arc raiders.

>>734257221
Arcs playtest before launch went from 188k to 142k from friday - to sunday and then launched to almost 300k.

Normalfags don't know anything about "server slams", but they know when the twitch ad tells them MARATROON IS OUT RIGHT NOW BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT and they will consoom.

>>734257181
>734255610
refer to
734255610
Next time make it interesting AND good, instead of pretending this abortion is the second coming of christ for videogame artstyle.

>>734257103
>still can’t explain what’s so good about the gameplay

>>734257181
>Isn't it significant to you how half the AAA releases in the last 5 years DON'T have this style?
Marathon has the same painty blurry style as OW. It's nothing like the original concept trailer.

>>734257290
Go back to playing Unleash the Avatar

>>734257282
This does not happen anymore retard High Guard would still be chugging along if your retarded low IQ logic was true.

>>734257181
>>734257290
Well, I'm off the rails but my point still stands.
>>734255610

>>734257349
Your point stands in knee high sewerage, pajeet

>>734257328
No he's right. I don't mind people trying something different but different does not automatically mean good, especially when it also seems half assed.

>>734257328
>>734257383
Glad to see you retreat to "you're indian" the moment your argument gets demolished.

>>734257307
>still can't explain how he's not an AIDS-riddled slave faggot

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>>734255854
this is THE post right here

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>>734249037
Who cares if the initial sales is bad?
It's not a race, it's a marathon

>>734257417
Glad to see nascent signs of sentience coming from 3rd world slums

>>734255854
What's a real job that's useful and tangible to society?
Also, have no limit to entry. Like you need to study for X years first.
>inb4 start your own cooking business

>>734257420
>STILL cannot explain what’s so good about the gameplay he was shilling for despite being asked first

>>734257412
>I don't mind people trying something different
Yes you do. You're cattle who deserves nothing good

>>734257493
>What's a real job that's useful and tangible to society?
In two hours I have a plumber over to fix my toilet.

>>734257520
Try making something good first.

>>734254313
"unique" does not automatically give it a pass. Cribbing lo-fi indie production artstyles and repackaging it as triple A is freakishly bad taste.

>>734257493
Garbage Collector has more value than anything anyone involved has ever done

>>734257493
Selling plates of food on Facebook marketplace

>>734257505
>STILL can't explain how he's not an AIDS-riddled slave faggot because fecal worms have devoured his frontal lobe