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>>734296082
>or provide further explanation.
Well?
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>>734296082
What's AI? Not AI?

Xavier decides!
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>platform has policy against egregious AI usage
>act shocked when platform rejects game that appears to have egregious AI usage
based xavier
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>>734296210
fpbp
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>>734296082
>Steam now rejecting games for "appearing" to use AI

Nigger, you can't read
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sounds more like they're finally going after the people using undisclosed ai art in the capsule art and screenshots
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>>734296082
read, faggot
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>>734296082
This was the game btw.

Clearly just some kids first game project.
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>>734296481
some kid using ai to vibe code checks out
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I don't get why AIfags insist on not being transparent about their use of AI. Like you can post your AI stuff, just let people know its AI.
The reason why people have a problem with AI is because of the scams it produces (albeit its all from third-world shitholers who want to scam retarded white women)
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>>734296481
>vibecode slop
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https://sightengine.com/ai-or-not?version=2024Q3

post your results
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>>734296537
Its like opening up and saying you're trans, you're just asking for trouble.
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I estimate that about half of /v/ lacks the ability to read judging from the OP and the replies
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>>734296210
My explanation?
>"It's not AI."
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AIDS (AI derangement syndrome) infects Valve.
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>>734296082
>Sream now rejects games for lying about their use of AI

F T F Y
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>>734296303
Actually, Steam lets you use any amount of AI for any purpose at all as long as you define it under the AI usage disclaimer.
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>>734296082
You are supposed to disclose it you retard
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>>734296537
>Like you can post your AI stuff,
Ideally they wouldn't be allowed to post it at all since it shits up every single site that allows it. Even filters are useless since some of them thinks that their AIslop is too good to be tagged as AI so they don't use the tags.
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>>734296625
>pictures for ants
stupid test
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>>734296082
good
death to slop
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And you fuckers thought that you can just get around the AI disclosure.
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>>734296082
BASED
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>>734296082
They shouldn't have gotten rid of greenlight
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>>734296082
Damn that would suck if it was all hand made and Steam support is still calling it AI slop.
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>>734296082
All you Ai faggots think that AI is gonna be some revolution in gaming, it's gonna be a revolution of slop. You think it was bad when Corpos shat out movies, tv shows and games that were "by the numbers"? Wait till there's no fucking human involved at all any more. It's gonna be fucking hell.
And I know. I already lived it. I like idle / incremental games and they were among the first to be overrun by AI. People post a fucking new bullshit game that's a copy of another game that's a copy of another game every god damn fucking day now. And they're all ass. You're gonna drown in slop. It's gonna be slop like you never fucking seen in your life before. It's gonna be hell. If AI doesn't crash soon, you're gonna wish, you're gonna BEG to fucking play old roblox games so that you can have a real gaming experience. You're gonna be begging for S4 league, and War Rock, that's how shit this slop is gonna be. You want a taste of AI gaming? Download the latest call of duty. Tell me what you think.
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>>734296968
This. Exhentai is like 90% ai slop galleries
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>>734296968
>>734297523
That's the problem man. You put in anti AI rules, then the ai faggots are just not gonna label it AI. You force labeling, then the entire website get overrun AND you have the fuckers who just don't label it. I'm actively annoyed every time I scroll youtube shorts and get some sora bullshit.
Or remember when shorts were fucking flooded with AI voices reading comic book wikipedia entries at you? Or fucking explaining Batman as: " man dressed up in all black combat gear to beat up criminals.."
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>>734297912
All they had to do was follow a simple rule. AI bros want to try and act like sneaky crooks? Treat them like crooks.
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>>734296082
Based
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>hey you said no AI but this looks like AI, can you explain
This isn't even a rejection, this is just telling them to amend their paperwork
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>>734296082
just prove you didn't use AI or disclose that you're using AI, lil' jeet. it's easy :)
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>>734296210
"I drew it."
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>>734297912
>>734296968
>>734297523
that's why you kill these people and tell them to fuck off away from your spaces.
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>>734296740
My response?
You're a fucking liar.
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>>734296082
>lie that you dont use AI
>steam finds that you do and reject your game because you lied to them
>WTF EVIL STEAM BOYCOTT!! BOYCOTT!!

A tale as old as time. Why are AIfags so terrified of labeling that they use AI? I thought they were proud shiteaters like that?
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>>734296968
what is the difference between aislop and asset flip slop?

theres 10 trillion slop games using synty asset packs. why are you only campaigning to ban shitty ai games? why not ban ALL shit games?
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there should be laws against anti-ai people at this point.
They are retarded
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>>734296264
this image is AI
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Now, unless the "content survey" is different from "the Steam page AI content section" , I'd be very skeptical. If its just a matter of an exclusive to Store request
>Tell us about your game, and if we ask about AI use and you lie about it, its no different than lying about H content or whatever.
but that's separate from being required to disclose shit to players.

Unless something changed very recently, the AI section on a store page was not a "requirement" it was voluntary so devs could disclose it if they wanted. There were plenty of games that made use of a fuckload of AI assets but didn't disclose any of it any sold for a long time. Frankly the idea that AI should be disclosed but
>using purchased assets
>not listing the engine used
>a fuckload of other things that could make a game 'look cheap'
are not requirements to'disclose'.
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>>734298683
Assetslop is harder to define. Good games can still use bought assets. "This is shit" is much more up to the pajeet who judges the game than "this is AI".
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good
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>>734297912
At this point it should be a community effort to start stomping out AI content in order to have it moved to places meant only for AI content, besides making it a rule that no AI created content in the service. I'm sure there are people who like AI content, but it's a lot of the time just boring.
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>>734298761
>make game
>use synty asset pack for art assets
>"it can still be a good game!!!"

>make game
>use ai for art assets
>"it can never be a good game MODS BAN IT!!!!!!!!!"

thats retarded
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>>734298883
We should all inspire to be like Hitler, I agree.
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>retarded anti-ai people can't just practice good judgement and either accept or reject what they see and not buy the thing
>no they need a schizophrenic litmus test to prove their game is organically grown with no ai impurity

This is like that low iq guy that regularly posts anti DLSS and framegen threads because its ai.
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>>734298754
Plus it's super vague what actually counts as "AI" these days. Photoshop has built in autofill these days or UE with its procedural terrain generation tools built into it. Pic related is from an indie game where the guy used machine learning before 2022 and the AI craze even started.
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>>734297912
That's just third world (or jewish) behavior man. I noticed it happening with porn sites where women with every hair color started being classified as blonde, and all sorts of fetish tags on run-of-the-mill porn clips because ad revenue.
But yeah, AI is next level because anyone with the time or hardware can shit this stuff out rapid fire.
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>>734298683
in the sense that i'm not paying for either, none
but those assets were made and sold by artists for money, just like an artist can sell their labor for monetary compensation
there's a big difference between an asset flip with artist-made assets and an asset flip with ai generated art, even if both are trash
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>>734298883
the problem is people like you are retarded and shouldn't hold opinions
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>>734298883
you are retarded
there already is 1 proven, trustworthy system that filters out all dogshit slop games
its called: RATINGS AND REVIEWS
dont wanna see dogshit? DONT LOOK AT GAMES WITH DOGSHIT RATINGS
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>>734296625
>every single image of a happy looking Indian market is AI
lol
lmao even
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>>734298761
Some of us who lived long enough to remember the days when
>This is CGI / digital manipulation
was spoken the same way as tards who screech about AI now, yet those uses are now commonplace and people critique the outcome, not the tools. The same should be true with AI. Its not meaningfully different than any other form of creative tool. Do you think that "slop" didn't exist when it was tons of unfunny badly made photoshopped pics? When "mormon porn / bubbling" manipulating the background to make women look naked but nothing visible thanks to the foreground etc, there are tons of examples. Hating AI in and of itself is just culture war bullshit or the equivalent of some furry porn patreon holder upset that people may not give them hypothetical money if they can get their inflation gay furry shit themselves etc.
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>>734298967
all the major games are using ai nowadays
Valve revealed their stupidity level.

I tried to explain this to luddites and they were just blinking in disbelief
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>>734298683
someone had to make the assets. why would i give you money to give me ai generated slop? you didn’t even try
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>>734297912
>>734296537
My dream is that AI gets bad enough to where sites start actually implementing really good tagging/filtering/search options (yeah fucking right) and then AI art flooding separately dies off leaving us with good search functionality.
I'm so tired of half-assed dogshit tagging/search options.
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>>734296082
Good
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>>734299065
never was, dont make up retarded shit you mouth breathing moron
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we (as a society) should have AI banned, ai developers incarcerated, ai ceos killed to set an example, the hardware destroyed, all digital knowledge regarding ai erased, every piece of information mentioning the existance of these generative ai also erased, any papers or books about it burned to a crisp, and any with the knowledge to make new ais like ai engineers forced to take their knowledge to the grave

then put an anti-ai amendment into the constitution so it may never come back in the future
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>>734296740
>AI? Don't be ridiculous Valve! I didn't use AI for anything whatsoever!
>How do I explain the female character on the store page capsule's hair merging into her dress and the three extra fingers on her left hand? Uh, that's a design choice!
>How do I explain the cat in the background dancing on a table while holding a sniper rifle in one hand and a basketball in the other? Uhhh design choice I swear!
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>>734296210
>it's not AI
The charges officer?
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>>734298683
>what's the difference between a stock photo and this one ranjesh shits out of his 3050 in 2 seconds and calls it good
kill yourself
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>>734299072
nope, this shit is free. thats why every shit ass game uses their asset packs

you are NOT giving money to "artists". in both scenarios you are giving money to lazy niggers who used a computer to acquire a free art asset for their shit ass game. theres is zero difference between them
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>>734298967
>pic related is from an indie game where the guy used AI
>had to disclose it
erm what's the problem then, retarded-ass nigga? just because that guy is butthurt about semantics doesn't change the fact that he used ai.
>but muh photoshop!!!
nobody cares, lmao
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>>734299130
the problem is YOU dont live in the real world because you are a tranny.
And governments like the US government are already outlawing you.
For your very obvious chinese bullshit
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>>734297523
r34 has a pretty good ai filter, I think it even catches untagged pictures because back when I browed -ai_generated a bunch of them got through and now I haven't seen one in what feels like ages
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>>734299142
uh oh melty
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>>734299065
Difference is you didn't have as many third worlders with access to such tools shitting up every website
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>>734299071
>I tried to explain this to luddites and they were just blinking in disbelief
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>>734297523
Who in their right mind browses sad panda and doesn't filter to manga/doujins without searching for specific titles or artists?
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>>734297497
Oh man, just as I was talking about it. Turned on youtube and got some ai slop: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2HyI2VVfBxI
THIS is the future of AI gaming everyone.
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>>734299065
it's not for you to decide what people value
it's very clear that a large segment of the population has decided that generative prompting is where they draw the line in the sand.
All they have to do is label their shit so anyone who doesn't want to see it doesn't have to. Crying about how it's not fair that the line in the sand was drawn where it is is faggot behavior.
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AI sloppers unironically think they deserve $12 for their shitty visual novel because they worked really hard on the prompts

you faggots just don’t get. money is supposed to represent labor. you take out the labor then why the fuck would i pay you?
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>>734299265
Uh oh, I hit the nail on the head
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>hand draw some art
>use ai to put text in a custom font on it
>nooooo you used ai! ai sloooop

funny ive had something like happen to me.
>>734299290
all UE games use ai, many of the top sellers on steam are UE games using ai.
You people are low iq
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What's wrong with admitting you use AI?
Isn't it something good, according to you?
What do you have to lose, exactly?
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>>734299306
>filters help pay for storage space
I use filters anon, but this is going to come to a head at some point
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>>734296658
>Its like opening up and saying you're trans
You don't need to say it, everyone already knows.
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>>734296082
If AI was so good, why are AIjeets so scared of disclosing that they used it in their product? Surely it's good enough that it doesn't matter that you used a little AI, right? Something about the 'democratization of talent'?
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>>734296845
Ok and why the fuck would OP not do that if his game is (almost certainly) filled to the absolute brim with AI assets?

There's at least one Australian guy trying to shill his /pol-adjacent Ren'Py game about HR ladies, and that game was pretty much made exclusively with AI, but he at least didn't try to hide it kek.
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>>734299393
does it matter - if its good?
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>>734296082
did the guy in the pic actually use AI?
>erm yeah he did because I say so
fuck off
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>>734299375
no, you people are retarded. I got accused of "generative prompting"
For posting a literal screenshot of a game.
You people are superstitious neurotic ir*sh coded off with fairies morons.
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>>734299393
ok i replaced the ai art with soulful crayon scribbles that i drew myself. steam cannot ban my game. give me $12 now

the problem isnt ai you dumbass. shitty ass games are still shitty ass games with or without ai
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>>734299229
Is this AI?
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>>734299410
Luddites attack you and try to destroy your game/livelihood
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>>734299234
>tranny
thats rich coming from you ai trannies lol, same logic pretending a chatbot is human just like how a man can magically become a woman
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>>734299213
that artist donated his labor. the AI slop generator violated the copyrights of every single work used in the training data that wasn’t licensed with express consent to be used like that work was

kys
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>>734299410
>use AI
>trannies reviewbomb your game and send you death-threats
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>>734299557
tranny, i can post a screen shot on this board right now and it will be flooded by you anti-ai tards calling me a jeet and seething about ai
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>>734299410
>>734299449
because im jewish and want to scam as many goyim into buying my game. you goys refuse to buy anything with an ai label. what financial incentive do i have to label my game with ai? im rewarded if i do the exact opposite
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>>734299550
>livelihood consists of making vidya for luddites
Lol either NEET or NGMI
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>>734299550
I don't see what a starsector faction has to do with what we're talking about
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>>734299557
trannies were the first to go hysterical about AI
trannies are still overwhelmingly against AI
Anti-AI = trans, simple as.
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>>734299531
AI is by definition low effort, retard
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Just SAY that you used AI, it's not that fucking hard at all. You need to put on your gold star when you're out in public.
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>write something sophistiicated and formulaic
>people write it off as AI
They literally taught us to write like this in high school.
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>>734299682
>trannies are against eating cow dung therefore i should eat it saar
lmao, did you know trannies breathe air too?
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when someone makes a high quality product using ai no one says anything because they dont notice.
These anti-ai tards are trying to convey they have an issue with quality while conflating it with their particular schizophrenia over ai
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>>734299743
not my problem
either write like a retard or get killed by the rabid hordes
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>>734299403
>all UE games use ai
I get that you pajeets are a very primitive species and all but it's been common knowledge for a while now that running on UE isn't exactly a bragging point these days.
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>>734299663
Do you not know what a Luddite is?
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>>734299532
>is this 30 year old algorithm the same as generative AI?
this the reason I hate you AI fags. "Haha GPU go brrrr" to make a photo was neat and all, but you faggots have to be so disingenuous about every argument on this topic. Go fuck yourself with a rake.
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>>734299692
No, if the work itself looks like shit then it's low-effort. AI prrompting requires patience and effort to get something that looks good. The only people who refuse to acknowledge this are people who haven't used it themselves.
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>>734299581
>MUH COPYRIGHT!!!
how many games have you pirated faggot

>>734299692
yes? duh?
ai isnt the problem. all low effort games are
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>>734299764
>tranny
>lets jeets shit rentfree in his head
ngmi
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>>734296481
BIBLIOTECA
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>>734299830
>AI prrompting requires patience and effort to get something that looks good
HAHAHAHA
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>>734299682
a lot of the trannies have mutated because they are neck deep in the free failstine movement so have taken on characteristics of anti-semitic alt right conspiracy nuts
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>>734299802
Of course I know what a luddite is, they're the green faction on the bottom left. I just don't see how they're relevant?
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why do ai-tards use copious amounts of pilpul whenever they argue? what happened to honest arguments, is chatgpt unable to generate those?
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>>734296537
If the only way to tell if AI was used is by a warning label, then there's no reason to hate the artwork to begin with.

The whole idea is that AI art is worse than a human's but if you can't tell, then it's not worse. You lose.
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>>734296082
this is a win
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>>734299814
yet you don't have annoying meltdowns when UE gets involved, curious.
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>>734299869
>guy who has never used AI before
Sasuga, luddite-kun
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>>734299743
They taught you to use em dashes in school?
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>>734299774
yep. its the "are games art" question all over again. a bunch of retards are conflating different words with "quality"
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>>734299794
yes we know ai tranny, you people are against UE because artstation allowed AI
You people are not smart.
You have been hate bombing UE because Epic is pro-ai
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>>734299871
>i love jew cum glug glug glug
the ai tard is also a MIGA loser ahahahahahaha
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>>734296082
It is AIslop. Kys.
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>>734299743
it'a almost like ai was trained off of good literature and writing practices. i'm so fucking glad i finished school long before ai took over.
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>>734299814
It replaced an entire agency full of disinfo manufacturers and film splicers you stupid retard. Do you think the fact that 5 times as much anime exists now is market forces alone? It's less work to digitally produced. Simple as.
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>>734299963
>it's an underaged zoomer
grim
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>>734299917
>there have never been posts under the name "anonymous" shitting on ue5
kill yourself
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>>734299936
Yeah, but the reason the AI uses two of them is because of formatting. I uses dashes all the fucking time, and I prefer to use two of them when posting on this webstie for the same reason as the AI (so people can read what I wrote more easily).
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>>734299963
i rest my case. Just a deranged idiot. Companies like Valve should think very hard about pandering to people like this if they want to be taken seriously.
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>>734299963
As an ai tard I denounce the talmud.
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>>734299926
bro you typed in a prompt, you did nothing of value
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>>734300020
>*glug glug glug glug*
suck it harder chuddy dont forget your god emperor of maga swallows it like a good goy
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>>734300054
there haven't been any attempts to cancel a game solely over UE usage you retarded gorillanigger
god I wish there was some sort of IQ check for this board
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>>734296082
PCbros keep winning
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>>734300118
Arguably these days if you work for a company that has decided to embrace AI in whatever, when you type in a prompt you are doing something with value if it is good enough. Unfortunately.
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>>734299869
uhhh are you sure you disagree with that? if ai DOESNT require patience and effort to get something to look good, that means it makes stuff look good without patience and effort. do you think ai looks good? lmao
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>>734300018
>It's less work to digitally produced
Hey ESL, we hate it only because it lowers the level of entry enough for your fellow brown "people" to use it.
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>>734296481
not sure why this would get flagged
pretty obviously not AI
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>>734300118
>You drew a line, you did nothing of value!!!
Art is communication and design. You can design using any tool. Are collages not art? Kill yourself you disingenuous horseshoeing jeet
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>>734300118
It's pretty rare for the AI to get what you're going for right away, or at least that's how it was for me back in the DALL-E 3 days. It'd take me hours of trial and error to get it to make either exactly what I wanted or something that looked cool. This is probably one of the few examples of something that came out looking halfway decent on the first try, and even then it's riddled with common problems.

Why do people like you insist on talking out of your ass about things you've never even done yourself? Christ.
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>>734300145
And there has never been an attempt to cancel a game over the use of AI in its creation, either. Only because of the lack of disclosure of such use.
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>>734300252
>unironic shitjak usage
gross
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>>734298683
The difference is AIslop is being churned out at an unprecedented rate. Maybe not with videogames just yet but if it's not kept in check then Steam is going to start looking like Sankaku real fast
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notice how all the anti-ai shills post about ai as if it was 3 years ago. Talking about low quality image prompts
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>>734300206
I don't care if some brown person produces shit anime. I want less Jews producing it. Leave it to shills and redditors to try and convince the goyim being able to make their own stories and animate them is a bad thing.
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>>734300252
I agree that art is communication, which is why everything AI spits out looks like AI and intuitively holds no value, including to the people that generated it.
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>>734300373
you cant even tell whats ai and whats not you moron
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>>734300373
Delusional.
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>>734300337
It's almost like they've never used the technology themselves and are basement dwellers with no frame of reference about the real world outside of internet memes.
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>>734300302
give me one good reason why you'd need to disclose AI usage for shit that doesn't end up in the end-product (concept art/placeholders) like in Expedition 33
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>>734300332
>start looking like Sankaku real fast
oh you only now start to care about the quality of the store when it was already a dump?
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>>734299891
theres only 1 honest rational good faith argument for and against ai
you either care about the end result with no care over how it was produced, or you care about the process more than the end result. if someone used ai to make something that looks excellent, you either dont care because it looks good or hate it because ai is the devil
everything else is a tangential argument over if ai is morally/ethically good
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AI used as another tool for good games -> game does not look like ai upon close inspection and passes

AI used for slop like jeets do -> game filtered

the filter is good, instead of just a blanket "anti ai" filter its an anti-slop filter, they should also filter asset flips
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>>734296740
Please provide samples of your art asset files that are in question.
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>>734300475
So I can generate controversey for (You)s, of course!
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>>734300449
don't forget the social media algorithm, they've got to download their latest opinion from somewhere
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>>734300475
The reason is liability on valves end if they need to pull your game from an international market due to regulation. Pro ai btw.
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>>734300449
i think its deeper. They are not bright people, they only recognise low quality ai images, And they think ah hah! i, a genius i spotted it. While being completely oblivious to the ai use all around them they don't notice.
Ive witnessed this exact dunning kruger behaviour on this board.
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>>734299065
Hating furry porn in and of itself is just culture war bullshit
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>>734300508
>if someone used ai to make something that looks excellent
im fine with this, if it does not feel like ai slop then i dont care how it was made

im not entirely against ai btw, i support using ai to replace the 4chan moderators
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>>734300432
not the point
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>>734300332
steam used to have a vetting process for a game to get onto the steam store. they removed that process a decade before ai. we have suffered under plagues of indieslop for years. ai is no different. steam needs filters for all shit games
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>>734300580
Yeah, you're probably also right about that. I oftentimes forget to address the unfortunate reality that this website attracts fucking idiots.
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This would not happen if people weren't:"Bro just lie in your description, don't tell that you used AI :)"
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>>734300510
They should just filter jeets
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>>734300673
it is, you cant tell.
You only notice what you can tell. You are an idiot
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>>734300530
>"Yous gotta license for that pencil?"
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>>734300731
thats also a good use for ai, claude code is good enough to replace all the indian """coders""", the slave labor jeets do is a solved problem thanks to ai, mass deportations need to begin
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>>734300676
>steam needs filters for all shit games
First of all, that's not something that's remotely feasible becuase taste is entirely subjective and can't be measured accurately,

Second, why do you even care? The consumer itself is a filter. If you're the kind of idiot who buys bad games then that's literally a (You) problem.
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>>734300812
Are you being retarded on purpose? Post the work itself.
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>>734299403
>use ai to put text in a custom font on it
Just add this to the store page. Is that so hard? You already typed it out, it won't take any effort at all
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>>734299550
Can you show me these luddite attacks?
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i will now demonstrate that every anti-ai shill on this board is in fact a moron.
Bear with me.
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>don't care if people use AI
>just don't want to see it and wish I could filter it
>this pisses off people who use AI for some reason?
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>>734299663
i'm pretty those are luddics actually
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Is this the thread?
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>>734296082
Based steam
TOTAL SAAR DEATH
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>>734299410
>Nothing to hide nothing to fear
Yawn
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>>734296082
I am here once again asking where are the good AI games? For the last several years I have been assured that AI would increase average game quality while also making them much faster to produce yet still no one can point to the wave of good AI games.
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>>734299449
Why do you argue with dishonest people?
AI jeets like money, they'll say any lie if it gets them more money.
Just scam them out of their money if you have a choice, or hurt them in some other way if possible.
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>>734300861
>First of all, that's not something that's remotely feasible
they already had the system you fucking retard. it was called steam greenlight. games were listed on a separate greenlight page and needed community votes to be approved to get into the main steam store. the greedy nigger gabe removed the greenlight system and now anybody who pays a fee can get their game on steam

i dont care. im not the one who brought it up. im replying to people who claim to care about the quality of games on steam - yet only seem to care about banning ai games. i think they are hypocrits, either ban all low quality games or open the floodgates. i agree with you, i dont buy (or even see) shit games on steam
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>>734301141
Ai is a tool of amplification. Why do you think there is so much energy poured into making artists hate it?
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R E M I N D E R
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>>734301086
>im not racist i just dont want to see any black people and filter them out of society and i wont support any black businesses
>wtf why are black people so pissed off?

do you really need this to be explained
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>>734298683
The uncomfortable truth is AI Slop is much more soulful and imparts user creativity than Asset Flip slop.

>b-but you're paying someone for them
Irrelevant, you can pay someone for AI shit too.

Either both should be banned or neither.
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>>734299682
Can you explain why there's so much AI tranny porn?
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>>734300785
I can never tell, or I only can't tell when it's good?
Because the point is ease of access inherently means lower quality of the entire production. Old school scripting, modeling, and art had a barrier to entry. Every technology to make things easier has allowed more and more people who otherwise would not have put in the effort learning those skillsets to enter the field. AI was a huge jump in the tech which allowed the largest amount of boomers, shitskins, and other lowlifes to shit out their slop.
When tastefully done, no, I don't think it's a massive problem. Especially when the effort put into it comes close to just doing it by hand, but boy have the gates opened for the slop to roll in everywhere
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The Ai check is a Yes or No checkbox on the Steamworks survey. There's no "maybe" or "just a little".
They give you a box on your store page to elaborate how Ai was used to create your game.
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>>734300834
Sure, let me know when that happens, dumbass.
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>have to use a pre-made animation bought online because I couldn't make a decent run/walk animation myself
>get really fucking sad to have boiler plate element in my own game
>niggas are cheering that they can just download shit online for their game
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>>734299774
Can you point out a high quality product?
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Based, I hope they become even stricter so I can filter all the slop completely
Knowing it makes jeets seethe is just the cheery ontop
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>>734301348
AI not based enough to make lammy's thighs that thicc so right.
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>>734301229
>everyone everywhere should be forced to see the things I like
I am actually racist, thank you
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>>734301228
That you retards operate as a group and have been reposting you organizing to pretend to be fooled your own ai slop for 4 years now?
4 FUCKING YEARS.
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I mean even in Florida which is quite right-wing these days, they have a lot of laws against putting up data centers and shit and yet 4chan is pretty consistently pro-AI, what gives?
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>>734298967
>inconcistently
>following it the list
yeah, this guy obviously pays loving attention to his work, no way is he a lazy thirdie slopper asset flipper trying to scam people into overpaying for his shovelware.
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>>734299581
Legally there is nothing that scraping the internet and putting it in an algorithm that constitutes copyright infringement.

More importantly morally you're corpo dicksucking scum for even suggesting that you should have the right.
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>>734301262
you cant tell when its good
furthermore you cant tell when its used well. As in someone has used it appropriately.

This is like looking at a gallery of shit art and scoffing at it but heaping praise on a good piece of art.
People have spent hundreds of years using tools to make bad art and tools to make good art.
Ai is simply a tool. It will result in people getting BETTER not worse games in the long run by lowering barriers to entry, reducing costs and allowing fewer people to create great stuff.
Its competitive and this is the free market. If people dont like it they should fuck off to china
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>>734301337
>have to use a pre-made animation bought online because I couldn't make a decent run/walk animation myself
sounds like you shouldnt be making games then, learning animation isnt that hard
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>>734301462
Basically every online platform is mostly bots or paid shills these days.
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>>734301462
you can be pro-nuclear while also supporting regulations around the construction of nuclear power plants. nobody wants another chernobyl, nobody actually supports shittily made datacenters that destroy the environment
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>>734301478
>Legally there is nothing that scraping the internet and putting it in an algorithm that constitutes copyright infringement.
It both does, and everyone having to defend copyright law wants to nuke your entire street shitter nation for making people have to defend copyright law.
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NOOOOO STOP THIS SAAR
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>>734301320
seething sukdeep
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>>734296481
>30 centavos de real
Tá difícil aí, tio?
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>>734301512
>This is like looking at a gallery of shit art and scoffing at it but heaping praise on a good piece of art.
Yeah and how did the advent of AI affect the ratio of good art to bad?
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>>734301582
Intellectual property is a scam and should be abolished
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>>734301513
Everyone is bad at something.
Also most of the time people say shit like that their standards are pretty low, or they're thinking about some realismslop garbage.
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>>734300580
You're implying I don't see AI images all the damn time
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AIsloppers lost and will continue to lose
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The breast expansion videos that AI can produce now are fantastic. I wasn't even into that sort of thing overly but now that it doesn't suck? It was hard to create material that wasn't cartoony and usually involved hidden balloons. But now you can get realistic videos generated of breasts expanding. Before you'd need major CGI talent to do that and no one bothered. Now anyone can do it.

They still make them cartoonishly too big though, but some things never change.
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>>734301462
Modern 4chan is Indian and South East Asians
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>AInigger seething so now he's spamming
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>>734301584
>AI will be great because it will be used to filter jeets
>you think that won't happen?! You're a jeet yourself!!1!
quality posting, thanks anon
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>>734296481
why should kids first projects be on steam? there's alreay too much garbage there as it is. post this shit on itch io or something
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>>734301638
theres a shit load of porn in the world, and giving women access to cams made more
who fucking cares

This is lazy pseudo intellectualism
>>734301709
you dont see ai images you dont recognise as ai images
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>>734301672
It should, but until it gets abolished, it should apply to everyone equally. It should not be used to protect the interests of corpo kikes while simultaneously allowing them to pilfer the intellectual output of millions of unpaid people for free and then sell it back to them as a shitty subscription service.
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>>734301672
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good. reducing or replacing human authorship in the arts is subhuman and you should kill yourself if you even consider it. the "quality" of the end result is irrelevant.
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>>734300301
>ooohhh nooo my prompt is very hard bro the combination of words I chose is very important I have value because of the prompts I invent bro

>make demon kid centaur reminiscent on top of a mountain with more whitw snow mountains in yhe distance high detail make it very good make it very nice and very high quality good image very nice quality and make it good
You guys are clowns
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>>734301756
Brother, breast expansion isnt inherently cartoonish
Your fetish is a cutaway gag in sitcoms
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>>734298967
Plus it's super vague what actually counts as "AI" these days.

Basically all computer science is AI but what counts as "AI" nowadays are Transformer and Diffusion algorithms.

People who complain about AI shouldn't even use computers.

>You used the Bucket tool in Paint to fill a shape with a color instead of manually paint every pixel?
You cut corners and you're not an artist.
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>>734301793
>who fucking cares
The white men who were around before your brown asses shitted up the internet, that's who
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>>734301756
grok does great boob expansion, very subtle and realistic. at least last time i tried, the censorship by karens ln grok seems to be in a constant state of flux
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>>734299403
>>use ai to put text in a custom font on it
This sounds like ragebait. AI sucks at coherent words. It would make more sense to AI generate the pictures and use one of the many royalty free font sites.
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>>734301861
is inherently*
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>>734301574
Wrong, you dumb brown retard.

Do you know why scraping the internet and creating derivative content for profit is explicitly legal, because of precedent, moron.

Do you fucking use Google, or any other search engine in your day to day life?

How do you fucking think a search engine works. It scraps the internet and reposts copyrighted content, for profit, algorithmically.

You didn't give a shit when imgur and shutterstock were suing Google over Google Images, but now you care? Sorry, you needed to speak up in 2007 when the courts were settling this.

And again, morally FUCK the corpo-dick sucking twitter """artists""" who want to give Disney a huge gift of extra copyright protection because they're worried nobody wants to buy their shitty, lazy, ugly $25 keachains or commissions
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aijeet melty
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>>734301901
>realistic breast expansion
average jeet
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>>734301883
Faggot im white. Its white men championing this tech revolution. You wumao rat
>>734301917
its not 2023 any more you idiot
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>>734301881
Obviously when the term "AI" is used it's meant to refer to generative algorithms that convert random noise into coherent output based on large-scale machine learning models.
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>>734301462
>4chan is pretty consistently pro-AI
What are you talking about? Basically every board has the same pattern of AI being relegated to one or two general threads that are consistently derided by the rest of their home board. Even /g/ shits on AI outside of the dedicated AI evangelism threads.
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>>734301348
I'd have an easier time genning that lammy
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>>734301793
>you dont see ai images you dont recognise as ai images
Well that's about 5% of the images I see these days that aren't straight up screenshots of existing media so it's kind of irrelevant. Enough of it is garbage that I don't care about the one in a million
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>>734301851
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>the anti-ai tards are stuck 3 years in the past
>still think ai cant do fingers or text
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This thread moves way too fast. Very organic.
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>>734301943
>You didn't give a shit
This is the third time you've made claims for other people ITT man talk about fucking projection holy shit. I don't think I've encountered a single AI argument where claims like this haven't come up.
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>>734302068
kek it's better than the post he was making fun of to boot.
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SIRS
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>>734302080
3 years in the past steam store wasn't shat up with 50 AI slop games per day.
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>>734296537
>I don't get why AIfags insist on not being transparent about their use of AI.
I agree, everything should be transparent to the maximum degree.
If game devs don't list all the IDE's they use, which libraries they use, various stock assets, what they ate while programming, and the color of their socks, the game should be banned.
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>>734302068
See?
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>>734302060
people like you if you dont wise up will start experiencing psychotic mental break downs, ai psychosis or ai derangement syndrome.
When you realise ai is everywhere abd you cant tell
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>>734301582
Irrelevant stunt, the piece that was ruled on had no prompting involved and as little involvement in the training process as was possible.
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>>734302084
AI defense force is in full swing
they've already dumped the usual images and arguments
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>>734302143
People regularly post list of tools they used by the way
Never seen "Made with Blender, Substance Painter, Photoshop, ETC" icons?
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>>734302119
>>734302146
It's definitely a lot cleaner than DALL-E 3 was years ago. Not sure if I prefer it over the original one I posted, though.

One thing is for sure, I don't think I'd be able to identify this as AI.
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>>734301462
It really isn't, in fact I'm surprised at how little AI shit I see on the catalog of most boards I frequent considering how there's no incentive to care about the quality of this website.
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>>734299465
ai shills know that anti-ai sentiment is growing and will go out of their way to hide that they use ai, especially if money is on the line
this is a well-documented phenomenon
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>>734302113
Yeah, I'm saying you didn't give a shit because you didn't give a shit and if you claim you did you're a fucking liar.

Did you think this was the fancy debate club? Its fucking 4chan you retard I don't have to fucking pretend you have good faith when arguing here.
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>>734301978
>Its white men championing this tech revolution
>white men like sam altmann, sergey brin, zuckerberg
Okay, schlomo, I admit you're not brown
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Ai losers be like
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>>734296806
Someome will create a shitty game platform that allows AI works and it will end up dominating Steam and The rest.
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>>734299403
>use ai to put text in a custom font on it
For what purpose?
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>>734301398
>>734302048
Less than the 25 % of the picture was AI
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135472718
https://x.com/mari_luijiroh/status/2001027307847475404
AI was used just for the lower half of Lammy
So if you can't prove something is AI, you cannot accuse someone of using it.
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>>734301851
>centaur
Bro?
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>>734302068
now gen the mona lisa swimming waves in mars while wearing a bikini
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>>734302084
Anti-AIfags are already huffing copium and falling back to mindless saarposting, nothing new
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>>734302226
>anti-ai sentiment is growing
Yeah, this is true. It's bizarre, but true.
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>>734296082
good, any barriers they can put up to block ai slop the better. you can't stop the flood but you might as well do what you can
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>>734302298
Either give me $5 per gen or do it yourself, faggot
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>>734302238
How about you stop telling me what I did or did not do and I'll stop assuming you're arguing in bad faith.
Because, yes, I shit on ue5, and no, I didn't give a shit about google photos because I was fucking 16 years old.
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You are welcome /v/.
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>>734302202
Those aren't IDE's, retard.
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>>734302285
>I gave you an example in the most dishonest way possible, I win
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>>734302206
I can, right away. Notwithstanding the general linework and color work that just looks like it has the AI Film All Over It, it's in the details of the image. The way he's holding the book and flute together in his hands doesn't make sense. A real artist would not paint it that way. That's the thing that immediately jumps out to me as bad. A real artist would not have such a high-level grasp of color, lighting, proportion, etc., and make that kind of weird perspective mistake. A less skilled artist, for sure, but not one making a picture like this. It's extremely uncanny.
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anyway here is a demonstration of the retardation of anti-ai fags

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/731403714/#731403714

>>734300901


They literally cannot tell whats ai or not. This is just a modded Fo4 screenshot using enb. They think post processing is ai lol.
Ive experienced this multiple times myself posting post processing screenies. Even had some dumb fuck schizo chink (wumao wumao) scream at me for using image gen, when i posted a screen of Skyrim
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>>734302426
Socks aren't IDEs too, fucking mongoloid.
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>>734302149
>you can tell?
>that means you can't tell
No anon, YOU can't tell, because your standard for taste can be summed up as "good enough"
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>>734302119
might be because one is using a tool that's already several years old by now
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>AI saar
>IMG_XXXX
We're so back
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>>734302284
ai can do photo editing very fast, like touch ups
>>734302532
>get proven you are retarded
>double down
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I have yet to see a single AI gen'd video that I couldn't tell was AI right away.
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>>734302504
Sorry, I thought that AI was just a tool that an artist used to realize his vision. Surely the image he posted is representative of his vision, and he wasn't relying on the tool to do all the actual work while he coped and pretended he created it? Because it's pretty crazy to think that the quality of someone's art should scale linearly with the fucking version number of the software they used to make it.
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>>734302595
who's gonna tell him?
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>>734301582
Do you know what the Aboriginal Australians do to create Genuine Authentic Bush Art they sell to dumb tourists?

They have factories of sweatshop workers pump out endless aboriginal style paintings, and then at the very end they get one genuine aboriginal guy to pick up a paintbrush and add a single dot.
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>Intentionally frame your photo to resemble AI
>Apply three hundred mods to it
>Apply enough post-processing on par with the makeup used in hollywood
>"It's not AI though you're dumb I tricked you I win haha"
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>>734302654
>who's gonna post the AI video proving him wrong? Oh wait we can't
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If you want to steal money from people, why don't you scam children on roblox instead of making games for steam, AI bros?
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>>734302674
>all this cope instead of simply admitting that you're retarded
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>>734302674
I mean, yeah-- he literally tricked you. The moral of the story is that your outrage is irrational nonsense.
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>>734302730
I didn't know you were retarded.
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>people fight AI as a moral highground
>the real argument is that AI is just really shit at its job
Why beat around the bush? AI should stick to porn games and keep it at that.
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>>734301228
>still reposting this image from four(4) years ago when the internet was 0.3% AI slop instead of 40%
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>>734302674
retard

its just some modders screenies
https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/onymaru9/media

You people are stupid and schizo AIDS unc
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>>734302692
Becuase it's more challenging and rewarding to scam stupid "adults" than it is to scam actual children.
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>>734302674
All of which proves nothing because his image still did exactly what AI does: sets off your bullshit detector proximity alarm that says "no, this is not a real image. Your claims are fake".

Imagine your defense of your medium is "you can't tell which FLAVOR of low-effort bullshit I'm trying to pull!"
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>>734302743
>Irrational
AI is the nigger of art
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>>734301438
>n-no i wasn't tricked it's the jews or discord or something
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>>734302585
I guess when your text looks like this you'd need to touch it up.
Before you freak out I know it can do accurate text now, but I still don't understand how it saves any time
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>>734296082
The outright fear over AI is so embarrassing. Its like a bunch of retards from 2,000 years ago getting terrified over a car. Some of these people are full blown terrified of AI.
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>>734302751
braindead nigger
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>>734302845
>>734302585
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Hardly, 80% adults are big children who've learned to conform, and then called it growing up.
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>>734302845
because you put a lot of effort into a piece of work. Then you notice something minor needs to be reworked, like the colour or some minor detail.
You can just tell the ai to do it a second
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>>734302875
There are still idiots terrified of cars, always posting about Walkable Cities (oppressive theme parks) and bike cucks
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>>734302817
>everything i don't like is the nigger version of the things i do like
The mind of a dumbass is truly marvelous
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>>734302875
>fear
More like disdain
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>>734302928
this is just dokev
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>>734302947
Walkable cities are good, carcuck
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>>734296481
Nothing of value was lost?
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>>734302875
>fear
its disdain
people still dislike assetslop, despite it existing for 10+ years already
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>>734302927
Christ, what an embarrassing thing to post.
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Sorry SIR I don't need your AI slop in my video games, manga, comics, VN, LN, books, movies, anime, TV shows, art sites, galleries, social media, web search results, websites and 4chan threads.
I wish you death and suffering.
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>>734302985
"Walkable cities" are a fucking meme by entitled nepo-baby liberals who want to live in a theme park, not the real world.
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>>734302945
Follow the reply chain and realize I'm specifically asking about adding text to an image
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>>734302875
it is the same batch of retards from 2,000 years ago but louder thanks to the internet
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>>734303013
Don't worry Timmy, when you turn 18 you'll be able to vote for all the heckin based tradcatherinos you like
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>>734302985
>Walkable cities are good in a homogeneous society
FTFY
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>>734302928
This is just fucking DokeV but it's got weird artifacts like you took a 480p version and used AI to upscale it which will make people hyperfixate on the details, combine that with the already completely fever-dream nature of the game, and just call "AI" if they aren't familiar with it

I've never seen one of you jeet shills argue honestly.
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>>734296082
But do they apply the same standard to big name devs?
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>>734302768
Get that garbage away from my porn games, as if the shit MTLs weren't bad enough.
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>>734303082
i made that post. Ai can add text anyway you want to an image. Like make it perfectly fit the contours of an object.
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SAAR YOU REDEEMED THE WRONG TOOL SAAR

NOW YOU MUST DO THE NEEDFUL
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>>734303075
And yet death and suffering is coming to you, lol
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>>734303075
oh no, anyways
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>>734302985
Why do walkable cities have 20 dollar cheese burgers?
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>>734296481
literally worse than Nortubel and that's a free itchio game
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>>734303013
Did you get scammed out of your money by some 13yo kid or what? What makes you mad?
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>>734303116
not even the people bitching about AI will
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>>734302795
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>>734303076
Carbrain cope. The “real world” is 8 lanes of traffic, a Walmart parking lot the size of a small nation, and a $600/mo truck payment so you can sit in gridlock to buy tendies.

Yeah bro, being able to walk to a store is literally a theme park. Stay mad that some people don’t want to live in a strip‑mall wasteland built around your midlife crisis on wheels.
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>>734302393
>AI shills use shitty online services
Shameful. If I didn't know any better I'd think you were trying to sell me something.
What's wrong, can't afford the hardware to run a local model?
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>>734296082
Good
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>>734303235
>2023
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>ai is real in our life times
>ai powered utopia is within our grasps
>retards: da joos!, jeets! walkable cities! muh wage slave job!
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>>734303223
Just go back and read what that anon wrote. Looks like something a chuunibyou in 10th grade would write kek.
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>>734298683
Asset pack usage at least requires the dev to make the choice of what assets to use. Those assets are also, ultimately, created by a human artist, even if they weren't strictly meant for the game they're being used in. You've gone from one artist to one artist and one dev.
AIslop is designed to produce the "most correct" result on an average of millions of data points from untold fathoms of illegally scraped images and text and what have you. It's endless grey sludge. Now you've got the effective work of thousands being filtered through an automated committee and one tasteless retard who can't tell how fucking awful it looks. It's vastly worse.
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>>734303239
Im beginning to think people who care this much about the suburbs are just seething shut-ins who never learned how to drive
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>>734303269
>anon is literally too stupid to figure out how to use gemini and make his prompt
>tries to coerce others into doing it instead with petty insults
Damn, you must be the smartest kid in your whole third world middle school!
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>>734303235
>deliberately choose a stylistic format that avoids most of AI's most recognizably ugly tells
>print it out on paper and take a phone photo of it so that it can't stand up to any kind of actual scrutiny

Suno AI makes good music too bro you can't even tell, just listen to it playing from this pair of headphones I sat over here on a table at -15dB while we're having a conversation I bet you'd never know it was slop music
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>>734303290
>ai powered utopia is within our grasps
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>>734303103
Hey real adults do real adults things. Like...wagecucking? Rentcucking? Setting up your bank account to automatically pay your....bills? Maybe...using washing machine. Wait...they talk like an adults. Like all those successful people and politicians in social media and IRL....they even can beat each other physically over some silly arguments. But I honestly think it's all about fucking children
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itt: sloppers seething that people refuse to stop calling their slop slop
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>>734301236
either getting banned is great, but both would be ideal
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>>734302021
>even the retarded board that's 90% AI generals and unironically defends AI for some reason is totally Anti-AI bro just trust me
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>>734299393
>money is supposed to represent labor. you take out the labor then why the fuck would i pay you?
>labor theory of value
Of course the luddite tranny is a marxist communist libcuck.
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>>734302461
You deserve to be screamed at for using that DOF effect. You would have been shit on back in 2015 for posting that garbage
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>>734303290
>>ai is real in our life times
LLMs will never be AI.
>>ai powered utopia is within our grasps
No, it isn't.
You're a jeet.
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>>734303334
Or retards that live in the city. Only cities have 8 lane highways.
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>>734303239
Its a theme park because you want to organize society just to be a rich lazy millennial that can walk from your cupboard sized bougie apartment to the "quaint" rat infested local coffee shop, while the barista that works the coffee shop has to drive over an hour to make you coffee because they can't afford to live in your "walkable" city.
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>>734301161
based 2hubro
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>>734303269
>local model
You know what, here's my hot take

If you, personally, implement and train a neural network on your own PC to generate art, using data you scraped and initial parameters you configured, you are an artist. I think procedural generation can be art when the hand of an artist is creating and guiding the algorithm being used to produce the output he then selects from.
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ARTISTS
It's Game Over for you
I can take any of you art pieces and put in any character I want, I can even take another image from another artist and mix them together, I can even make them NSFW.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
The Times They Are A-Changin.
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>>734303076
people who think like this genuinely have never been to a country that has walkable cities, literally just goto japan bro it's cheap right now
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>>734303235
>retards immediately start coping because of this post
el oh el
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>>734303201
Why do drivable cities?
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>>734296082
based
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They don't even look at your game. They will look up who worked on it, find nothing or ai profiles and then flag your content.
Having no online presence prior to 2023 is still a reliable indicator.
All because you want to act clueless and lie to your customers.
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>>734303494
No thanks. Why would I want to visit a bug hive? Exterminate them all.
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Since there are a lot sloppers ITT dreaming about making money, you should try chroma key. Buy a tablet and pretend to be an artist. You will make more money this way instead of trying to sell your AI slop on patreon.
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>>734303467
theres like a dozen types of ais not just LLMs and they use multiple types at the same time
You people are so dumb
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>>734296082
And that's a good thing
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>>734301236
I'd be perfectly happy with a third-party-asset disclosure requirement if Steam were to put one in place. I don't think there needs to be shame in saying you used Quixel Megascans or free Kevin MacLeod music; you have to say it in the game anyway, may as well disclose it up front if it's something a potential customer would care about. If people want to not buy games made that way, they should be told, just like the disclosures for third-party DRM or AI generation.
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>>734303485
This actually gave me an idea-- i may try doing this with an artist i really, really adore. one whose work i've been trying to ape for years.
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>>734303570
>there are dozens of LLM saar and together they are more human than me
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>>734303472
That sounds more like a capitalism issue than a walkable city issue, Anon.
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>>734303627
>retard can't read
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>>734303570
It's astonishing how agressively you retards shill for technology you don't understand at all.
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>>734303627
Ironically they probably are
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>>734303492
Happy for you. Hope it saves you some commission money.
Please don't flood websites and services I use with it. Keep it to yourself, nobody else wants to look at it. Thank you.
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Good.
Fuck your AI.
Fuck your data center.
You worms should be grateful anyone bothers making anything anymore. You fucking worms are just going to steal the art, steal the code, and then feed it into jeetgpt anyways.

Blow your head off AI faggots.
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>>734303613
Based.
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>>734303613
nothing says adoration like outright taking their work to shit out cheap replicas
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>>734303372
I use stable diffusion. You're nothing more than a shill for google
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>>734303442
>board that's 90% AI generals
I can't believe /g/ only has 6 and 2/3rds of a thread on its catalogue. That's crazy.
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>>734303627
LLM is just one model of ai. This should be obvious to anyone that feeds an ai a picture.
You have dunning kruger
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>>734303665
Part of being human is being an insufferable retard who gets off on being a nuisance, which most AI models aren't. It's sad but true.
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>>734303723
might as well be with how dead it is
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>>734303701
This.
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>>734303727
Please try to name the other forms of AI so I can laugh at you.
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>>734303334
I have a job that's five minutes from my house by car but ~40 if you walk. This means that I am FORCED to purchase a kikemobile for several thousands of dollars and spend hundreds a year in fuel and maintenance, instead of having the OPTION to CHOOSE to take my kikemobile or of using my own two fucking legs and walking. And I still have the option to walk, even though it's fucking miserable! People who have an actual commute don't even have that luxury!
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>>734303727
>if saar combines LLM with image hallucination it is like irobot electric sheep dreams saar
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>>734303701
Based
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>>734303701
>Blow your head off AI faggots.
the only ones blowing their heads off are retards like you once they find out crying on /v/ and bluesky is pointless
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>>734303646
Nah most of the problems are inherent
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>>734301943
>you don’t care when [corporation] sues [corporations] but you care when [corporation] steals from the little guy
yes, faggot. now don’t go projecting your corporate dicksucking on to me
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>>734303659
ironic from someone that thinks "LLMs" are the only type of ai. You actual retard.
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>>734303615
Holy fuckinf shit I was wrong
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>>734303810
If it' so pointless why did the entire AI online defense force rush to this thread?
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ai is only good for making blacked anime girls
thats it
thats really it
keep it away from anything else
can't believe people thought those ai slop videos are good, any ai videos looks like shit and retarded
also fuck google ai search overview thing. I hate that one the most
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>>734302285
so I was right.
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>>734303779
Just buy a bicycle. E-bike
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>>734303813
Nigga we're not talking your slavoid shithole
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>>734303810
Calm down poo bender. Everyone knows your swarthy ass can't afford a shotgun anyways. I recommend a rope for you.
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>>734303864
for the same reaon the Anti-AI discord is here as well
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>>734303613
I feel like you would have something interesting to say about that process. I feel like you would have to make considered decisions, try things and retry them, make meaningful progress toward a goal, develop a skill in the process. It'd be like writing your own code for generating a dungeon in a video game. It's not the same as "level design" but it's still a legit creative process. It involves decisionmaking, deep understanding of the technology and tools, and the deliberate and intentioned hand of a creator with a vision.

The shit that came out the other end would be identifiable as AI, of course. But if you leaned into that, I think that'd also be fine. I think that's the avenue this tech has to take if it wants to be meaningful in the arts. Stop trying to pretend a TR-808 can "replace a drummer" and start learning to sound design electronic drums and embracing that you're doing something totally new. See where it takes you.
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>>734303702
>Muh 8 years
The literal retard who never understood the meaning of "Work smart not hard"
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>>734303709
They man, I've trained *MYSELF* on the guy's work. He's been dead for a few years and there's no one that has taken up the mantle.

Also, these "cheap" replicals will be the culmination of both his lifetime of effort and mankind's collective knowledge about computation and digital logic. Being a reductionist who refuses new technology doesn't give you a moral leg to stand on, anon. If anything, it makes you the worst kind of cretin-- a modern virtue signaler.
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>>734303813
What's wrong with this picture?
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>>734303826
>he still can't name the other forms of AI
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>>734303761
https://medium.com/@sandrew022000/not-everything-is-an-llm-8-ai-model-types-you-should-know-in-2025-6cc01cd6dbaf
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>>734303894
>jeet derangement syndrome
It's already over.
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>>734303918
...because we both hate increased ram prices?
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>>734303936
nigga about to start the miura slop trend that will rival the jeet ghibli profile pic epidemic
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>>734303924
>Work smart not hard
So can you share your success story?
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>>734303972
>medium
Lol no
I asked YOU to name them, Rajesh. Why can't you?
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>>734296082
I shant accept AI, ever. Thou shalt not create a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
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>>734304027
read the picture idiot
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>>734303979
Why is that even a bad thing? If you want ram, you can just pay more for it. Shit costing more only hurts poor people which is good.
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>>734303886
>>734303956
The duality of man
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>>734303972
>this LLM generates 2 outputs and then picks one. I named it moe
woah
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>>734303972
>LLM
>followed by 7 variations of LLMs with slight algorhithmic differences but the same general concept invented back in the 70s
lol
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>>734304005
I get paid for posting cute anime girls on a Mongolian sandwich board. I have literally won at life.
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>>734304059
This.
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I'm still waiting for examples of devs being canceled as a result of disclosing AI
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>>734304041
>I AM A DIVINE BEING
>YOU ARE AN OBJECT
>YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY HOLY TONGUE
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>>734303979
I'd be mad at the RAM producers in that case.
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>>734303702
>insane schizo word salad babble
>look inside
>troon
lol
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>>734304027
The image he posted also has those names, anon... kek
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>>734304075
>>734304089
https://knowlab.in/are-you-still-calling-every-ai-an-llm-8-powerful-model-types-you-should-actually-know/


But here’s the truth:

LLM ≠ all of AI.
Today’s AI world is more like a toolbox than a single tool. There are different kinds of models, each designed for specific jobs: talking, seeing, reasoning, acting, editing images, working on your device, and more.

In this simple guide, let’s walk through 8 important types of AI models, explained in plain language, so you can finally say, “Ah, that’s what this thing really is.”
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>>734301680
hundred of thousands of tutorials on how to animate be it 2d or 3d, since you're using pre-made animations i'm guessing 3d which is legitimately much easier than 2d animation since its completely technical and just a time sink. Since you are using 3d software pretty much all of them have the ability to bring in animated reference(this is how pretty much all studios do the base animations) so you can literally copy one to one from video reference. like i was saying its not that hard.
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>>734300918
why would I have it after I finished the game?
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>>734296210
SAAR MY GAME IS VERY GOOD YES PLS DO THE NEEDFUL AND REDEEM IT
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>>734304089
LLM is a language model specifically, the actual architecture is "transformer", and the only major innovation in transformer architecture in the last 30 years was attention, and it was literally just the invention of the attention block that made the modern "AI" revolution possible.
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>>734299936
Woah. Take a breath. You're not crazy, but em dashes are useful for many styles and types of writing. Do you have somebody you can reach out to? If not, here's the number for your local suicide hotline.
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>>734301851
Fucking kek, accurate
I tried arguing with an AIfag on /g/ once about AI's shortcomings are he fired back
>did you ask the AI to review its answer?
>did you ask the AI to improve on the answer and make it better?
>did you ask the AI to create a team of 100 identical AI agents to evaluate itself and offer suggestions?
>did you repeat this 100+ times until you got the betterestest answer possible?

Like holy shit, they think they're geniuses but their whole "science" boils down to
>um can you please make it better pretty please make it more good like really good much much gooder this time so it's the bestest
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>>734303885
I did briefly after my first car broke down, but you forget that I live in America where 99% of the population are mind controlled ZOG-golems who would either actively try to hit me for not going 50 mph on my bike in pedestrian zones or passively behave like the mentally deficient cattle they are and become wildly incompetent the moment they see something on the road that isn't a car.
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>>734304104
Of all that may come from reality, only Man should carry the gift of reason.
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>>734304090
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>>734296082
this is a preview of steam after gaven. Retarded 'lennials and zoomies making decisions based on their hurt feelerinos.
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>>734303613
A successful Ai Patreon is all about selling custom image packs. They want to rent your high-end hardware and not support your artist LARP.
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>>734303817
Lol, the corporation (fucking Google) WAS """stealing""" (its not stealing) from the little guy.

How do you think Google Image Search works??

It scrapes the internet and COPIES the images it finds to create a thumbnail. Uploading it to their servers for profit. Its far less transformative than AI has ever been.

It was not just """stealing""" from shutterstock, Google was scraping every tumblr blog and deviantart gallery.
But the stupid twee artists brigade didn't feel threatened by that kind of algorithmic scraping, they didn't give a shit if photographers and the stock image creators jobs were destroyed.
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>>734304159
I honestly don't understand what you mean by this.

And frankly, I don't care. Seems to me that you're way too stupid to follow basic instructions, let alone provide a rational argument.
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>>734304131
they are all MLMs and the esoteric differences don't matter for the end result. it's not artificial intelligence, we aren't on the precipice of it becoming artificial intelligence, and it certainly isn't going to creating any utopic scenarios
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>>734304160
Less insane than actual Indian movies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDAHHPGcLzo
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That's why I only use Epic Games Store now, not only it's better for the consumer and developer it also protects democracy by not actively censoring unlike steam
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>>734304208
Wow, it's almost like drawing involves the exact same process of trial and error until you finally get something that looks good.
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>>734304159
Do you have no pride in your work?
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>anti-ai tards think when you give an ai a picture to edit or animate its using language
so dumb
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>>734304160
this is all AI will ever amount to. generating shitty, throw away memes that might at best get a chuckle out of you (but usually a sardonic expression) and that you will forget even existed 5 minutes later. straight into the trash
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>>734304356
this take is so retarded it made me go cross eyed for a second
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>>734304327
>Epic Games Store
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>>734304264
Nobody outside of actual retards was using GIS thumbnails for professional work. GIS, before the AI sloppification, was actually incredibly helpful for artists and photographers because it served as an easy was to find images and the source pages they originated from.
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>>734304254
are people really that retarded to subscribe to 3 different sloppers and hope the poll they vote on wins and the result a week later isn't hot dogshit instead of just spending the same amount of money on NAI and doing it themselves with much more freedom?
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>>734304356
holy fuck you think learnable skills are trial and error? I can't imagine how you fucking cook yourself meals. just burning things over and over until you get lucky
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why does v suddenly love ai
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Why are ai sloppers so embarrassed to admit they use ai? If everyone is doing it then there's no shame in putting made with gen ai tags on your work, right?
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>>734304356
amoeba level intelligence
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one of the coolest things ive seen ai do lately when asking it for tech help or just general help. it will just say, "send me a screenshot" of the issue. It will then look at it and see the issue.
Its smart. Smarter than people are willing to accept
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>>734304386
>this is all AI will ever amount to.
>t. man who never interacts with the world outside his hugbox
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>>734304371
No one said that, you midiwit
Lmao
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>>734304356
lmao
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>>734304452
Leftists hate AI and /v/ is a based right wing tradcath board.
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>>734304472
>It will then look at it and see the issue.
Weird, chatGPT always tells me that I'm not crazy, but I need to take a breath and then goes on a preamble of life lessons because I asked it to review a python script.
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>>734304502
you are too stupid to understand what im saying you low iq faggot
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>>734304391
Not an argument

>>734304425
>assuming that trial and error doesn't also involve tweaking things to see what works and what doesn't
Wow it's almost like every single learnable skill involves the same process as making a decent looking AI gen.
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>>734304472
It pulls from the same databases as IT techs. It's literally just cross referencing what it was trained on, that isn't intelligence.
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>>734304173
More like nvidia just implemented attention at a hardware level. No watershed "oh my god we literally invented gravity!" type moment just some fucker implementing a 20 year old algorthim into the instruction set.
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>>734304457
They have no faith. It's all bad faith. It's why ai sloppers despite all their believes about art and human factor still communicate with as, real humans instead of ai bots. And I think there is AI board for LLM bots. Can't remember the name. Agentchan or something
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>>734304484
I mean, it can also generate confidently wrong answers to questions you ask it
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>>734304410
yes
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>>734304537
lmao it saying take a breath is insanely obnoxious.
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>>734296082
I kneel Gaben
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>>734304452
You act as if there aren't a million fucking interest groups trying to sway the opinion of actual anons by shilling constantly because they implicitly understand internet culture is downstream from 4chan.
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>>734304554
no, it doesn't. because learned skills are repeatable and not randomized from white noise each time
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>>734304553
Is that all you got? lol
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>>734304563
You're talking to people who believe there's a fluent chinese speaker inside the chinese box.
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>dunning krugers getting ass blasted because is is smarter than them
ai is technically smarter than every human that ever lived now.
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>>734304705
ai is in fact fluent in chinese and can teach you
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>>734299306
>>734299436
Sad Panda one day will get shut down because 99% of all hosted files will be AI slop and the upkeep too high.
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>>734304452
Judging by what happened to /a/ once one /g/ spammer got his official approval from mods in IRC...I'm surprised entire /v/ isn't spammed to death.
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>>734304410
They don't know how it works, they don't want to know and $5 solves that problem.
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>>734304452
>anon is confused becuase he can't think for himself and can't feel safe unless he aligns with what he believes is the majority opinion on /v/
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>>734304582
it can also summarize my search results so I don't have to crawl through 9 different pages.
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>>734304712
So is a library.
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>>734304712
>dunning krugers getting ass blasted because is is smarter than them
might want to ask AI to check your grammar then
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>>734304582
Tranny
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>>734304758
Case in point.
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>>734304712
>>734302462
OH NO NO NO
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>>734303485
the courts disagree. This specifically is not copyrightable.
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>>734304796
its called a typo dumbass
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>>734304789
Incorrectly, yes.
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>>734304652
>refining the instructions you give to a machine so the output more closely resembles your intent isn't a repeatable skill
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>>734304790
Self own
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>>734296082
Based Steam
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>>734296082
I will disclose no such thing, until all developers are also required to submit a full listing of the software they used to create their assets and provide proof of valid licenses to use said software.
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>>734298751
>jeet wants everything to be AI
saar!! its AI!! you didnt notice but it's AI!! see!! AI is good sar!
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>>734304850
retard
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>>734297203
AI shitters are low-trust people, no wonder they cannot be upfront with it.
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>>734304554
adding +(1girl), (((high quality))), in the style of hironobu sakaguchi, traditional drawing, pen and paper, artstation, very high quality, (five fingers) to your prompt is indeed a skill, but more in the vein of a child learning that the cow goes moo than someone learning fundamental artistic composition
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>>734304859
I don't think you can comprehend much of anything, much less enough meaning to understand what a "Self-own" is. Maybe run it through an AI and see if you can figure it out.
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>>734304846
why aren't you using AI to correct your typo then? You have so little faith in it you won't even use the thing "smarter than every human" to generate a response?
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>>734304264
>they didn't give a shit if photographers and the stock image creators jobs were destroyed.
Right, because it wasn’t them. That’s just basic human behavior. Now the average person who has produced anything online, whether it be art or code, had their innate copyright violated as their works were thrown into the training data while they were not reimbursed or even asked, they can’t afford gpus or ram anymore, they’ve got nothing in return from this exchange except low quality memes and indian scam ads and they’re footing the bill with their tax dollars and in 5 years the cost of water and electricity will probably be double. I can’t imagine why people would be mad about that but not fucking shutterstock. Did you really think this argument sounded good when you typed it out you fucking retard? Actually kill yourself.
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>>734304886
Do you seriously just believe whatever slop the AI summary on top of google puts out instead of doing your own research?
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>>734304853
>this is wrong uh uh
>best quality
>high quality
>deviantart
>masterpiece
>alright that's good enough
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>>734304796
You might want to ask AI to explain what grammar is and why a typo isn't a grammatical error.
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>>734304894
>low trust
>get branded as a hack for using a tool that a large number of people don't understand
People like you are the reason we live in a world like this.
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>>734304924
>ask ai
just read it in a library lol
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>anti-ai tards refuse to even use ai for searches
lol
>>734304943
because its not a big deal. i thought you loved human error since you prize authenticity so much?
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>>734304886
>no argument
have fun learning things wrong because the slop scrapper stole some fuckwad's forum post instead of you just going straight to a reputable source
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>>734299814
If there is such an obvious line, where is it drawn? Where does algo assisted tool end and AI begin?
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>>734304968
No, I use it as a basis so I can quickly fly over the sources it gives instead of spending 10x the amount of time to read through the entirety of each page.
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>>734304995
>People like you are the reason we live in a world like this.
By that I suppose you mean "Honest people like you are the reason we haven't irreversibly ruined the world yet"
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>>734304886
trvthnuke
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>>734305048
>No, I (believe what the AI puts out while skimming over what it told me to read)

okay
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>>734305020
it states the source after each claim you fucking retard
there's literally nothing stopping you from quickly checking if it made shit up
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>>734304907
Well, obviously. Someone who uses AI to shit out drawings isn't going to suddenly get better at drawing themselves.

>>734304974
Indeed. That's the process behind skill refinement, anon. Belittling it doesn't change the fact that it's fundamentally the same across the board.
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>>734305002
Based
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>>734304886
We don't sign our posts here saar.
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>>734305048
ai has completely replaced search engines and indeed the conventional net for me. I just ask it to retrieve what i want.
I want a site/app busting ai that enters shitholes like discord for me and finds files i want.
Thats the dream, never having to depend on the insane dysfunctional web anymore
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>>734305109
>>while skimming over what it told me to read
Because that way I can check if it hallucinated, yes.
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>>734304998
I have. Then I remembered it, in fact. You're literally a chattel slave to a tech company, in comparison.
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>>734304974
>no argument
Kekky poopy
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>>734305109
Nigger you can literally instruct gemini to gather studies and show sources. I don't think this convo was specifically about that but I literally use gemini to collect relevant studies on a subject so I can then fucking read the studies.
What are you gonna say, gemini is giving me made up peer reviewed studies? Get with the times faggot
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>>734305157
>never having to depend on the insane dysfunctional web anymore
LMAO
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>>734305110
and at that point checking the sources and their veracity takes more effort than you just clicking a link of a trusted website/book, wow and you only need to waste all the world's ram for it!!
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>>734304995
>get branded as a hack
Yes-yes hiding that you're using AI is totally normal and not scam behavior at all. AI is so good but I don't want to be branded as hack....
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>>734305095
>honest
Your honesty is cheap and harmful. Being "honest" doesn't make you good, especially when it's the kind of self-righteous "honesty" that you're exhibiting right now.

Decent honesty requires tact, not blurting out whatever pops into your thick skull.
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>>734305147
>why yes, adding more keywords and mastering an entire artistic process are basically the same
The skill floor and the skill ceiling for you are mere inches apart.
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>>734305154
notice how i didn't write a "t." there, sanjeet?
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>>734300131
It's time to go outside.
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>>734304875
You don't need to disclose it. They can get the information without your help. It's not a good idea to lie when asked a yes or no question. As a developer you are not anonymous on Steam.
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>>734305214
Anon AI has literally been making up precedent, studies, and legal cases this entire time. It gets caught doing so basically yearly at this point.
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>>734305249
This saar is izzat farming
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Reminder that trannies redditors and xitter faggots are anti ai
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>>734305220
>retard doesn't know what skimming means
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>>734305249
>Being "honest" doesn't make you good,
+10000 izzats
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>>734296082
Steam has already been rejecting games for very vague/unexplained reasons. I support the killing of AI slop, though.
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>>734305228
Treating the fact that AI was used to begin with as scam-tier is why this issue exists in the first place.

Your argument is basically
>people simply should not use AI
which is fucking retarded lmao. Why the hell would anyone take such an unhinged take seriously?
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>>734305314
Trannies redditors and xitter faggots are actually pro-AI.
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>>734305187
you memorized an entire library?
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>>734305305
>so I can then fucking read the studies
I think that anon would notice if it made a study up.
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>>734304853
Create a replica of that photo using text to image. Let's see your skill
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>>734305314
we all know what pro ai looks like
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>>734305358
Maybe it should stop being used in so many scams if you want people to stop associating it with scams.
>>734305397
>what is lying
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>>734305420
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I can't wait Second Internet impact after SEO optimization era. Imagine when even scientific information in google search will be AI hallucinations. I heard (no proofs) it is possible to make article with hidden commands for AI so it will automatically spread the article the moment it parse and read a command.
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>>734305315
>skimm the ai slop
>skim the source of the ai slop
vs
>skim the source on the first place
that's one less step there , also you do lose important details by skimming, now you are skimming a summary of what's probably a summary in the first place? hope what you were looking for wasn't really anything complex or nuance then
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>>734305448
>study shows
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>>734305391
That isn't what you asked of me, now is it? I guess AI is really bad at teaching argumentation, that's a shame.
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>>734305251
I didn't say that. I am not suggesting that using AI will make you better at a completely different skillset. Just like how being good at drawing doesn't automatically make you able to create better AI-art prompts.
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>>734305434
If you assume everyone you're arguing with is lying then why are you trying to argue in the first place?
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>>734305448
Why did you @ me?
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>reminder that [person that you're supposed to dislike] also hates [thing you hate too]
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>>734305448
>n-n-no trust the experts!
dumb goy lol
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>>734305434
It's a tool. People misusing it is bad and wrong, but suggesting that it has no value because bad people might misuse it is dumb. Computers, phones, and good old fashion pen and paper are all associated with scams, too. Why don't you advocate for people to stop using them, too?
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>>734305484
>erm librarys are smarter than humans
self own
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>>734305498
A toddler is able to make serviceable AI prompts. "Prompt engineers" are an entirely superfluous class, and contribute less than the seas of 3rd worlders used as mechanical turks to train the AI in the first place.
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Shartys is siding with AI sloppers to own lefties but it's funny how their content is all human made. They're /ourartists/.
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>>734305410
Do it yourself, anon-- I don't have to prove anything to you.
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>>734305554
Because all of those tools have consistently proved their usefulness. AI has proven SOME usefulness in narrow fields, and then inadequacy in myriad other fields that become incalculably damaged by its inclusion.
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>>734305593
shartynigger content is already made algorithmically
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>>734305531
>the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
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>>734305568
Ok? That still doesn't invalidate anything I wrote.
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>>734305545
Just play 9 handtraps including Nibiru. Just remember skills can play around handtraps.
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AI tag?
Not paying for it
Simple as
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>>734305593
The sharty is a literal /lgbt/ colony btw, despite them "hating" troons so much.
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>>734305562
Your definition of intelligence is "Contains information". Then yes, libraries are smarter than humans. AI is woefully inadequate at actually thinking, much like a library. That this is lost on you strongly suggests that you are of sub-human intellectual quality.
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>>734305643
keep crying niggercattle, every single thing you believe in is a fabrication to keep you docile and compliant
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>>734305481
>>skim the source in the first place
I'd be required to read the entirety of the source if it wasn't for the AI summary, it'd be one step less but more work in total
>probably a summary
nice assumption
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>>734305701
oi vey, its just a conspiracy goyim
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>"omg I cannot believe how did they find out I was vibe coding!"
>left the fucking chat explanations in
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>>734304760
>disable filters
>this is the first thing i see
honestly you can't make this shit up. usually it's multiple like 5GB galleries of just the worst shit, all rated 1 star.
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>>734304995
The pajeet thinks we don't understand that he's willing to be the laziest fuck ever to make money.

If you used AI, what am I paying for in your product? You didn't do jack shit. You don't deserve my money.
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>>734305649
Equating the triviality of "prompt mastery" to an actual acquired and honed skill is laughable.
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>>734305620
I'm a computer science student and I literally use AI every single fucking day kek. And not just for computer science related reasons-- I use it to help with every day decisions because I always have a ton of shit to do and it becomes overwhelming without someone to bounce my thoughts off of.

It's by FAR the most useful tool at my disposal right now. Everything in my life has improved because of it. I seriously pity people like you who refuse to use it on "principle". You're so misguided.
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>>734305736
God. There's good shit on sadpanda and now its going to get swarmed by this shit.
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>>734298683
when using assets that don't belong to you, they still come with a usage license that typically involves crediting their source.
All you have to do to use AI slop is to disclose that you're using it, let consumers decide if they want your garbage or not. You aren't lying to consumers about your usage of AI to deceive them, right?
Go be brown on Epic Games Store, I'm sure you'll get tons of sales there.
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>>734305685
knowledge is in libraries anon
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>>734305736
>130 pages
This is why I no longer use sad panda, it's literally not curated AT ALL, I'd rather use nhentai (it also has a nicer UI)
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>>734305598
Anon I don't have the supposed skill. Show me it's possible
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>>734305554
AI is causing more harm than good, economically, culturally and academically. It's flooding the internet with fake shit in an era where we already have significant issues with people taking information on the internet at face value. Can you not see the existential threat it poses? Not even the whole "Ooh AI will replace us all" kind of way, it's literally polluting the noosphere with hallucinated nonsense.
>but it'll get better
No, we'll get worse and only think it's gotten better.
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>>734305740
this guy doesn't have the same reaction to games using pre-made assets snd similar btw
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>>734305859
Good. Die westoid
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>>734305716
>probably a summary
>nice assumption
it's the best faith assumption, the worst fairh assumption is AI hallucianted all that shit and just pasted the vague source of its hallucinations as their "source", again all roads lead to reading the source anyway unless you don't care for the veracity of your information
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>>734305748
Ok? Lol

It still doesn't invalidate anything I said.

>>734305740
So you assume that even if a little bit of AI was used then the whole product was made with AI?
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>>734296481
>we think this part of your game usese AI
>doesn't show that part of the game to defend himself
You're a liar. I'm wise to your tricks.
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>>734305731
this trans hatred of "vibe coding" is ironic when they are all using it.
>>734305783
this its insanely useful. Rejecting it is like rejecting the wheel.
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>>734305876
>he thinks the east is immune
My man, they're right in the shit with the rest of us on this.
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>>734305875
Based
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>>734305852
I don't either. But someone who was really good at prompting probably could.
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>>734305736
>sadpanda shadowblocked slav IPs upon registration around 2015
>tried to login using my decades old shadowblocked acc
>it works
>entire panda is filled with AI
Times change
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>>734305783
I honestly can't wait for the day that the VC funding dries up and the price for all of these tools 10xes. Do you think you'll be able to adapt to using your brain again or will you splurge for the 500 USD a month subscription?
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>>734305915
lol ok. The ai will totally destroy the east too
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>>734305902
If a little bit of AI is used, the product IS made with AI. This is how process works. If you make a product with a little bit of wood on it, the product is made with wood.
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T HATE ON MY LOW EFFORT TRASH!! L-LOOK! THAT TRANNY THERE ALSO HATES IT, HE'S YOUR ENEMY RIGHT???? YOU CANNOT HATE ON ME NOW!
Why are Hindus like this?
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>>734305859
>noosphere
*snort* slav pseudoscience. Russian schizo babble.
There is no existential threat. This is the future, stop being a chicken.
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>>734305897
>pasted the vague source of it's hallucinations as their source
and a 1-second check is enough to completely disregard the hallucinated claim then
a 1-second check in exchange for having a 5-minute read correctly summarized is worth it (in my opinion)
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>>734306002
Swords are made of wood !
T.
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>>734306027
Izzat. It's not about reaching an objective truth, it's about winning, even when you're actually wrong.
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>>734305783
Cool, I'm an engineer and the most I used AI was to cross reference a codebase for a language I needed to learn in a week. Sounds like you're desperately dependent on a tool that you don't own, that is going to be hard for you in the future.
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>>734305987
>500 USD a month
I'd have no choice but to go back to doing things the old fashioned way-- very slowly.

I'm not incapable of functioning without AI, anon. It's just made my life 10,000x easier.
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>>734306051
>noosphere
>pseudoscience
You're not ready for The New World
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>>734306027
>NOOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU PERMA-SEETHING ABOUT AI LIKE THE REST OF US GOYCATTLE
Why are troons like this?
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>>734306058
Swords are made WITH wood. WITH. You stated WITH, not OF. God, maybe the greatest sin of AI was turning third worlders like this into evangelists.
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>>734306085
Basically sophism but poo smell is now mandatory.
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>>734306051
It was pseudoscience back when it was conceptualized, it was realized with the creation of the internet.
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>>734306086
you can use ai for anything. From nude videos of ai women, to cooking, to landscaping advice.
ANYTHING
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>>734306058
if you sold swords and said your sword was made with absolutely no wood, while the hilt was clearly wooden, you’d be lying. this isn’t difficult.
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I've still seen no argument against honesty other than hypothetical cancellation
Prove it
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO THE AI IS BAD ANON!! DON'T LOOK AT IT!! IT'LL DESTROY EVERYTHING!! L-LOOK! THAT JEET THERE ALSO HATES IT, HE'S YOUR ENEMY RIGHT???? YOU CANNOT LIKE AI NOW!
Why are trannies like this?
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>>734306175
>from nude videos, to nude videos, to nude videos
I don't want to use a shitty generalist model for ANYTHING. I want to use actual useful tools for that. I don't landscape with AI, I landscape with a lawnmower.
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>>734305902
>So you assume that even if a little bit of AI was used then the whole product was made with AI?
Yeah? Why the fuck should I trust somebody who was lazy enough to not do the work themselves? Fuck them. They will not get my money.
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>>734306167
no its still pseudoscience
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>>734306086
>Sounds like you're desperately dependent on a tool that you don't own, that is going to be hard for you in the future.
Assuming the tool disappears, then yes-- it will be hard. I've got a lot more issues in my life than just learning proper coding techniques. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to reach a state of autonomy before anything devastating involving AI happens. But if it does, then that's just the way it goes. I'll either adapt or get fucked.
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>>734306150
Saar
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>>734305830
you use scrapers because you don't know how to properly use sadpanda
aislop is invisible unless you don't know how to hide it
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>>734306217
i will make my kino nude videos and i WILL like them
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>>734306256
The tool won't disappear, it'll just get way more expensive. You're going to want to accelerate your independence before the loss lead period ends and they actually need to turn a profit.
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>>734306054
>a 1-second check
now who's making assumptions? how do you check in 1 second the summary efficiently condensed all information? maybe it skipped over something that might have been important to you
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>>734305736
Most users who would give a 1* rating don't even see Ai content because they filter it. Ai content is getting decent ratings because of it.
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>>734306280
ctrl f jeet now
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>>734306308
nope. ai is considered a utility like power, water and internet
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>>734306229
>they didn't do the work themselves
I will literally never understand this line of reasoning. Do you think the AI is what shit the game out? I'm assuming you've never used an LLM before, becuase I can't even get one to properly explain to me how to install older games on Ubuntu without a shit ton of trial and error.
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AI won.
I'm starting my transitioning. Sacrifices must be made. This is power.
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If the game is fun, I dont care if it was made with ai powered by the blood and screams of babies pressed with spiked pressure plates
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>>734306381
Under fucking whose rule? Because that certainly isn't the case anywhere in the world.
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>nooooo the ai is corrupting the purity of the noosphere
get out of here stalker
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>>734306437
What if it was your baby being spiked
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>>734306193
>IT'LL DESTROY EVERYTHING
it's already destroying everything, including itself thank god
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>>734306389
I don't care about your retarded justifications for laziness. If you let AI code for you, you're lazy. If you had it shit out assets, you're lazy. If you had it install packages for you with full access permissions, you're a fucking retard.

You are not owed my money if there is a lick of generated bullshit in your product.
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>>734306308
>You're going to want to accelerate your independence
No shit, anon. I'm 34; I can assure you that I'm already doing all that I can.
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>>734306430
this sucks

there is so much porn already. what do you need this generic slop for?
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>>734306332
it's a hyperbole
the point i'm making is that checking it's claim is rather trivial
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>>734306437
Fun is reddit buzzword. AI slop can't be fun.
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Saar is obsessed with his AI slop "passing", this reminds me of...
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>>734306457
everyones rules, everywhere. This is the world now.
Ai super computers and data centres are being built everywhere. Its vital infrastructure.
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>>734306389
>I can't even get one to properly explain to me how to install older games on Ubuntu without a shit ton of trial and error.
then why do you use it instead of finding a guide written by someone on the internet?
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>>734306489
Then there's no problem right? If the bubble will pop and it'll destroy itself, its a self fixing problem
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>>734306490
You don't have any money Ranjeet
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>>734306430
>I'm starting my transitioning
Freudian slip from the aitroon
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>>734306495
>there is so much porn
All shit. Not for me and my tastes.
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>>734306559
lol okay pajeet
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>>734306509
>YOU CANT HAVE FUN CHUD
Arc raiders won
E33 won
SGGG won
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>>734306490
>you are not owed my money
Yeah, this is true. I still think your standards are unreasonable if not outright hypocritical, but it's not my business to care about whether or not my game is offensive to you if I used it to create an asset. It's not in the best interest of me or the quality of my product to conern myself with what every idiot on the internet thinks about AI.
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>>734306256
>I'll learn the skills when I need them
That mentality is how you fuck yourself. If it comes to that you're going to be scrambling to adapt while producing nothing.
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>>734304995
so you choose to be a scammer
very fitting
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>>734306530
Hah, yeah, nah. It's being built in middle eastern countries and india. Maybe in india they can get a "Fundamental right to AI"
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Literally everyone I know (most of them are right wing btw) hate AI shit, where do these slop lovers even come from? I suppose that these troglodytes live in an inferior realm and that's why I haven't encountered one yet.
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>>734305830
i still like it for downloading artists' collections and other things i'm looking for specifically, but man have the surroundings become such a garbage dump.
they should restrict uploads for accounts with nothing but 1-star shit spammed or something.
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>>734306556
sure, but while it does I'm gonna dunk on the paid shills invading my imageboard
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>>734306694
It's literally just an astroturfing force. You think of the hundreds of billions invested, they don't have enough to market?
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>>734306652
They use AI like for few asset textures no?
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>>734306694 (Me)
the only people I know are members of my curated discord server forgot to mention that
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>>734306694
tranny pretending to be anon.jpg
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>>734306694
Case in point
>>734306745
>>734306758
Yeah you see what I mean? Obvious shills. They're getting paid their local minimum wage.
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>>734306739
According to "people" here thats enough to be tagged as made with ai
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>>734306660
thankfully steam is stopping scammers like you from dumping your slops on the unaware masses
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>>734306542
>implying I haven't tried
>implying if that wasn't a faster solution I wouldn't just do that every single time
I'm sorry if what I wrote implied that I don't know how to perform a Google search, but I do. And most of the time, when it comes to very obscure tasks that there is little documentation about, spending hours digging for a solution has about the same rate of success or worse than asking an LLM for guidance.
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>>734306430
That is some janky ass hair physics. By all means, generate for yourself. Just keep it to yourself
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>>734306694
>I suppose that these troglodytes live in an inferior realm and that's why I haven't encountered one yet.
Finally someone who understands the real situation
But yeah. More than 1 billion dollars bubble. Its' how AI somehow winning tradition art competitions. Shills are everywhere. Remember Epstein files. Everything is under control.
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>>734298939
The anti-AI people can tell, trust me. You sound like a 7 foot linebacker tranny that questions whether you pass or not, LOL. Some people don't want to wade through dozens of AI slop games before finding a real game and hoping that it's a good one so you don't have to wade through more slop.
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>>734306430
Hot. And customizable
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>>734306816
>implying the unaware masses actually care about AI assets
The "unaware masses" care about buzzwords more than the asset in question. The "unaware masses" also have no fucking idea how gamedev even works lmao. If they did, they'd probably never buy another game for the rest of their lives.
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>>734306793
>takes a low effort insult serious enough to post a screenshot as "proof" that it's not him
lol
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>>734302985
Im not opposed to a walkable city, I think its not realistic at all because it probably takes a city millions of dollars to extend one sidewalk. But I really dont get it anyway. I grew up in the burbs, moved to the city for my new job, been here about a year. I got lucky and I have friends who moved here too earlier. But now that we've done all the novel things it's just like anywhere else as an adult - all there is to do is drink and eat. Im closer to concerts that I couldve just drove to anyway cause its not like thats a frequent enough thing to justify the rent. It's a nice summer day, and I lucked out and got an apartment with lots of windows and natural light - but too bad! The entire block can now see all up in my entire shit now so I guess I wont be enjoying that. No big deal I guess it's not like there's lots of trees anyway. Somehow the pollen in spring is 100x worse anyway though. My new gym is fucking packed all the time, nobody puts their weights away cause niggers. If I want to do anything outside the city now the drive sucks ass both directions every time. Everyone here is fucking tired of people because we're not supposed to be this close together so they're all jaded cunts. Cities fucking suck ass.
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>>734298939
Based. Anti ai trannies behavior is literally just cancel troon behavior
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>>734306812
Well yeah. Why no. It would be even more consumer friendly if they tell what exactly was AI generated. Was it just something like photobashing but with AI for texture made by an artist? Let consumer to decided is it okay or not.
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>>734306846
>everyone that disagrees with me is a shill
bet you call threads about indie games shills too
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>>734306660
Well, your standards are lower than mine, then. The insanity is that you think people needlessly have a chip on their shoulder against AI when it has genuinely ruined society as we know it for the worse. You want to risk your product not being able to reach a larger audience? You do you. People got impacted by AI and you want to pretend that they don't understand it? Fuck you.
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>>734306876
they're not buying your games at the very least kek
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>>734302985
Anti ai "people"
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>>734306958
>this is the best he could come up with
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing
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>>734306860
you cant tell. Social media is full of ai thot accounts indistinguishable from the real thing
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>>734306940
Letting people decide brought us biden
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>>734306812
why wouldn’t it be?
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>>734306665
What exactly do you think the AI is doing that I'm not doing myself? I already know how to spend hours researching how to solve a problem or reaching out to others for help and guidance. The only difference between this and asking the AI for help is TIME. The AI gives me an immediate, unbiased, and detailed response to my query. That's all it does. It doesn't do the whole job for me.
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>>734306996
better than your sales figures
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>>734307056
I don't know who he is sorry.
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>>734307058
Post your game's player numbers tranny
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>>734306952
it hasnt ruined anything its made things better
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>>734306665
>believing anon cool stories
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>>734307098
Oh right, anti ai, sorry, theyre not right wingers
Letting people decide brought us Trump
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>>734307056
no, that was the result of allowing unsolicited mail in ballots
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Why are you so scared of the label?
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>>734307059
>I-I can toootally d-do it if I wanted to
uh-hu, have fun being unhirable because nobody would ever trust your generation's skills at anything
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>>734307146
SAARed post
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>>734307175
Then obama
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>>734306430
>mfw i generated an entire catalogue of french maid porn
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>>734299743
>>734299936
Unrelated but I've noticed more people writing with AI mannerisms lately. Sometimes you can tell someone manually typed something but copied AI mannerisms like using em dashes or spamming "It isn't just (insert adjective/metaphor), it's (insert a more exaggerated version of that adjective/metaphor)!" I think copying the writing habits of AI is somehow more pathetic than just having AI write shit for you.
>>734299981
>good literature and writing practices
It reads like a lobotomized normalfag with an IQ of 90 mixed their Xanax with red wine and took a writer's workshop for the first time
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>>734306952
>The insanity is that you think people needlessly have a chip on their shoulder against AI when it has genuinely ruined society as we know it for the worse.
You not being able to afford RAM is hardly a concern of mine, especially when the LLMs are infinitely more useful to me than *YOU* will likely ever be.

That's what makes it difficult for me to see your disadain as anything more than the whining of an ignorant reactionary. You think the world revolves around you, which I can assure you it does not.
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>>734307146
then >>734307190
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>>734307112
what does that have to do with anything? why would a game made with AI not be disclosed as made with AI? What is the special exception you’re asking for? why are you so against disclosure in the first place?
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>AI scammers don't want to be exposed for using AI in their slop
Just don't use it?
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>>734307264
should I say im racist to everyone i meet
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>>734307247
>I think copying the writing habits of AI is somehow more pathetic than just having AI write shit for you.
Simulacrum is destined to become reality so someday this will be the norm.
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>>734301086
>>this pisses off people who use AI for some reason?
Nooooo how an I going to get rich quick as the best ideas guy of all time if you aren't forced to look at my horrible machine-churned slop?
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>>734307247
>It reads like a lobotomized normalfag with an IQ of 90 mixed their Xanax with red wine and took a writer's workshop for the first time
Pretty ironic considering everything you wrote reads like something an idiot would write. At least there's no doubt about it being written by a human being, kek
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>>734307258
better start saving money once the LLMs you are shilling for require to make a profit then
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>>734306952
>muh ram
>muh gpus
Think of the chilluns
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>>734307258
You not being able to afford RAM will be your problem when you're stuck using censored online generators
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>>734307206
I accpet your concession.
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its over, ai won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNawYG53Usw
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>muh censorship
They better start censoring because i can still generate rape with slurs with the mainstream models
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Insult me and make me outraged while we're on page 10
I hate AI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c00ZNn9v01o
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>>734307374
>something an idiot would write
wow how descriptive and witty, did you ask daddy LLM to come up with that?
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>>734307258
>You not being able to afford RAM is hardly a concern of mine
Thanks for admitting you're too fucking stupid to see the bigger picture.
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>>734301229
>using the economic terrorism argument
I shouldn't have to shop at black owned businesses if I don't want to. Go be a leftist commie somewhere else
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>If you're racist, you should label everything you do as made with racist hands
>What's wrong anon, don't you want the consumer to decide?
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>>734307390
>>734307401
Fortunately I'm actually employed, so the prices of goods and services fluctuating is something I am able to deal adapt to much more easily than someone who doesn't have a stable income of their own.
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>>734307594
unironically it's probably a plus nowadays
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>>734307594
I don't see anyone executing AI sloppers who don't hide their slop. Or trained it on their own material.
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>>734307330
if you were applying to be a judge or something where it would clearly hurt your ability to make unbiased decisions, then yes. what does that have to do with making a video game?
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>>734307690
Me when I lie
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>>734307690
we should start doing that desu
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>>734307586
>see the bigger picture
KEK doomsaying isn't "seeing the bigger picture", anon.
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>>734307594
I regularly disclose the fact that I'm racist. I doubt disclosing your art tools is as big of a risk. You're just a pussy
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>>734307698
It would if i put racism on the game. Should i add an racist tag
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>>734307448
and I won't accept your CV
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>>734307374
You aren't just mad, you're assblasted! Take a deep breath and enjoy the chaotic vibes. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.
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>>734307721
No? A lot AI slop accounts are on twitter. Or patreons.
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>noooo the ai is gong to bust my door down and fuck my wife noooo ahhh the joos! *shits pants and cries*
delusional you never had a wife.
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>>734307781
Okay, post your game
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>>734307781
>he puts "i'm a giant racist who hates kikes and niggers" on his CV
big if true
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>>734307783
absolutely
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>>734307594
I wish they would, so I could be sure to only buy racist-made goods.
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>>734307795
You will. Becuase like every other CV you'll get, it'll be written by an AI
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>>734307649
>fluctuating
That's assuming they'll go back down. Consumers aren't needed anymore. If you can afford it, it's not expensive enough
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>AIkeks are scammers and cowards
Nothing new. Thread is over.
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>>734307783
honestly you should, specially if it's an important story element of said game
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spoiler: at least one poster itt is ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyNaH27lX90
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>700+ posts
What schizo mine field did I walk into?
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>>734307846
It's nowhere near finished
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>>734307783
I don't care about racism and I'm leftie trans
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>>734307990
tell em xister
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>>734307806
Thanks, GPT

I'll ask you for help making my Ren'Py game later tonight, ok?
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>>734307959
Kino sir
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>>734307959
anti-ai tards arguing with an ai and not being able to tell
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>>734307974
Post screenshot.
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>>734308016
>Ren'Py game
King
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>>734307903
>needed
No, but they're still a huge market. And where a huge market exists, there is always some absolute madman willing to profit off of it.
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>>734307959
ai keks getting farmed by slop hating chuds



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