Has there EVER been a more brutal and effortless mogging in the HISTORY of gaming?
>>734472771Imagine you're the suit at Bungie responsible for Marathon and your performance review is just a screenshot of your game getting shit on by an indie dev whose game is blowing you the fuck out
>>734472771e33 to Silksong
ban steam charts threads
>>734472771>(deceased)did they really kill a guy because they needed sympathy sales?
It makes me happy that indies keep winning. Triple A gaming is truly dying and in the current shape it is in, that's a good thing. I hope the entire industry is dismantled and reformed. Make Double A games a thing and abandon this fucking shitty meme of massive investment 5+ year development time to deliver a safe "product"
AAA games lost. Indie games won. The industry must reflect on this or die.
>>734474448Not a commiefag but I would fucking love to be able to redistribute funding from shitty AAA devs/publishers to AA and IndiesThe new Styx could've been such an insanely good and polished game if they had even 1/4 of the development budget of something like AC Shadows which might be the most absolute dogshit soulless digital waste product I've tried to play in a decade
>Saturday peak is lower than previous daysmarathan is alreay dead, RIP
>>734474581but how did this happen?
>>734474186you will never be a woman
>>734472771Bungie couldn't handle the mockery, they tried to kill 4Chin.
>>734474816>indie games>cheaper prices>sell you the entire game>made to be fun and not to string you along to buy mtx>aaa games>more expensive>sell you a part of the game>made to be just fun enough to make you want to buy mtx to make your experience betterYou pay less, get more, and get treated like a human being instead of a bag of money.
>>734474021Silksong had 5x the players.
>>734474186
>>734474816Indie Games are forced to compete because they aren't carried by big studio names or franchises. In other words, indie games can't afford to prioritize anything other than making a fun game (unless they're government funded like Relooted).AAA games are allocated massive budgets where managers and developers are given a salary. There's almost 0 incentive to make a great game (that bitch with the dumb ideas is getting paid regardless).
>>734474983
>>734472771Elden ring and Horizon
>>734472771Fuck it, I have no intention of playing slay the spire II but I'll buy it just to support it and more games like it. Fuck Marathon and its live service garbage.
>>734474186I never liked them either, but they are an integral part in our timeline to fuck off dishonest moralfags and shitty corpos.
Total AAA death.
We should have a steamchart board (unironic genuine post)
>>734474918Technically this indie game doesn't sell you the entire game (yet)
>>734474448what happend quadruple A gaming?
>>734474983Now that the blast has settled should I buy the dip?
>>734472771Buy an ad
>>734475165Pretty much just reserved for Rockstar
Age of the hardcore shooter seems to be coming to an end, casual bullshit is becoming king. I do not like this timeline
>>734475165Those get continually delayed and when they finally get released is in an incomplete state
>>734472771Ummm..... Marabros? Why does slay the spires graph keep going up while ours only goes down? I thought the weekend was supposed to change things around...
>>734475235>Age of the hardcore shooternigga there hasn't been a proper hardcore shooter in a decade or two
Slay the Spire is being artificially inflated by Chinese bots. Literally no one is talking about it. It's just a cheap flash game anyone could've played in the early 2000s.
Is it worth playing the original Slay the Spire first? Sometimes the sequel is basically the same game but overhauled and expanded, sometimes there's either a story or mechanics reason to play them both and in order. Monster Train, Darkest Dungeon etc.
>>734475235Marathon is still casual garbage compared to games like Arma and the other hardcore military sims.
>>734472771Ban steam charts threads.
>>734475395slay the spire 1 has very little going on in terms of a story, but the gameplay of the first game is genuinely good and i do recommend that you play itslay the spire 2 is currently in early access and, from what i have played of it so far (only 10 hours in, mind you), it seems to be an overhauled/expanded version of the original
>>734475318>What is rising storm
LEAVE BUNGIE ALOOOONE
>>734474983blast haver bros... not like this
jumanji
>>734472771>losing to another shitty cardslop game
>>734474757i didnt even bother doing that quest until i had 4 cats with the "ignores the negative effects of terrain" mutation so that i could breeze through ityou are brave if you started it up without having access to it, wew lad
>>734475594He fucking won
>>734475131Yeah they can get a bit annoying but they're necessary for showing an objective view on what's popular. Any other gaming company would hide all these stats from the user base
>>734474615>Not a commiefag but I would fucking love to be able to redistribute funding from games with actual people and talent behind them to petty bourgeoisie college dropouts remaking the same deck building roguelike/pixel shitjank slop over and over againno shitdestroy indies and the industry will be saved
>>734475356Bait used to be believable.
>>734474816>but how did this happen?it happened because just like any other successful art industry, videogames became a financial venture instead of a passion one. CEO retards and their army of yes men / incompetent middlemanagers infested the medium which became even more bloated with parasites (DEI hires and assorted troons) due to the fact egotistical finance bozos also NEED their brownie points instead of just making money. Thankfully, our wallets spoke the truth in the end. Unironically wouldnt have happened if vidya were gatekept and stayed niche. We were victims of winning too much.
>>734472771>Has there EVER been a more brutal and effortless mogging in the HISTORY of gaming?Yeah.
>>734475971>it happened because just like any other successful art industry, videogames became a financial venture instead of a passion onethe passion manifesting millions of famicoms to play free videogames onfuck you think industry means you retarded LLM
>>734472771S A V A G E D
>>734475356>it's a cheap flash game from the early 2000sSo...it's kino and soul and fun? Nice, gonna buy a copy now.
>>734475491yeah the original is 13 years oldvietnam nearly a decade oldi miss based insurgency
>>734474021Not even close to being the same case you clueless retard
>>734474581People are getting tired of DEI safe "woke" multiplayer only "live service" games. If Marathon was a Halo clone with a mediocre story and some hot waifus with classic Halo game modes, and forge mode to make maps, it would be game of the year even with the art style.
>>734475395The sequel seems harder to me but both are fun and the sequel basically feels like a refinement of the first with new characters ALL the enemies in the sequel are new, so I guess you can't fully get the same experience from the second as none of the enemies, elites, or bosses are in the sequelp sure it's on sale for really cheap so i'd say worth it to pick up the bundle with both for 28 bucks instead of just STS2 for 25
>>734475395Right now I'm focused on the new one but in the future I totally see myself playing both.
>>734476275yeah bro, the guys making the famicons in the 90's and modern gamedevs are exactly the same! the fact you think what I wrote comes from an AI tells me everything I need to know about your degree of retardation TOPKEK
>>734474021true
>>734475226And yet rockstar can't even get the game out because the sea of DEI hires can code a working game
>slay the spire 2 had no marketing budget>keeps getting more players due to word of mouth from actual players>marathon's marketing budget was tens millions of dollars>numbers keep going down because the game isn't greatit's almost like people will advertise good products for free, too bad the current industry is about trying to trick as many suckers as possible on day 1 before everyone finds out you made a dud.
>>734476892the entire concept of marketing is to find legal loopholes to lie and scam people everyone employed or engaged in marketing should be killed
>/v/ likes cardslop roguelikes now
>>734477128>nowHow new are you
>>734477128I just hate Bungie.
>>734474929How many TGA awards though?
>>734474021>>734476806it's true if (You) are enough of a dumbfucking retard I guess... Ex33 came out of nowhere, Silksong is the sequel of an already well received game. Just like StS2 . Watch whatever next game Sandfall make break records too.
>StS2 peak of 526,793 set 3 hours ago>Marathon peak of 88,337 set 2 days agoWAKE ME UP INSIDE
>>734477394Jewish industry plant but vidya
>>734474234He took one look at the final product and away he went!
>>734477128/v/ likes anime horse girls. That general has been the most popular thread on /v/ for the past 9 months that actually discusses a video game.
>>734477468Yes Silksong was made by two jewish devs.
>>734477117Based
>>734474929E33 made more money
>>734474929>astroturfed game had more playersYou don't say
>>734475463Did you miss the other guy that got rekt posting this?
>>734472771we know marathon is ass and most likely a flop but can anyone tell me why this game has half a million players? looks like a slighty better 2010 flash game, what makes it so good?
>>734475165It was extremely painful.
>>734477562Gachas aren't games.
>>734472771Despite everything, I have to respect Bungie's grifting game. They basically stole 4.5b from Sony and probably made Sony lose a couple of billion more in other failed projects.
>>734477832you getta slay a spire
>>734477832People like it. That's all you really gotta accept. It don't mean the game is good.
Heres the true brutal mogging
Is Bungie dead now?
>>734477562could you pat yourself on the back any harder horsenigger, go back to /vg/
>>734476307fuck New World Interactive, the only mode I like in Sandstorm is the zombies and they gatekeep it as "limited mode"
>>734472771How is it fair to compare two completely different games
>>734477991>google>apple
>>734477832>First game came out, single handedly creating an entirely new genre of roguelike card games.>The gameplay is simple and charming but challenging enough to keep you playing more to improve>The formula is the gaming equivalent of cocaine and people get hooked and sink untold hours into it>Many copies immediately start to spawn but none of them capture that lighting in a bottle>The sequel comes out and it's more of the same with new mechanics, characters, etc. while also improving on everything that made the first game good.tl;dr it's a sequel to the catalyst of a whole genre except even better. Their success is entirely deserved.
>>734477668You're actually retarded if you think people weren't genuinely excited for it.
it's funny that the whiners on that post are gormless marathon fanaticshttps://x.com/Streaks____/status/2029625931187507690>>734478124>indie game has more reception than 'hotly anticipated triple A game'indie shitting on AAA investorslop is all that matters here
>>734477832At high level, high skill ceiling, a game that can't be beaten by rote memorization or by pressing the right button at the right time, with complex decision-making while being turn-based and letting you decide how snappy or thoughtful you want to be.On a more basic level, the pleasure of seeing synergies geting into place, the randomization making every run different.
>>734478349I don't think they said "weird" enough.
>>734476892>tens millions of dollarsAlways assume that for a AAA title, the marketing budget is as big as the development budget
>>734474021erm
>>734472771did bungie actually ever consider that the extraction shooter - unless you make it a casual cushty dadfest like arc raiders; is actually a really niche genre that only the sweatiest, stinkiest gamers enjoy?
>>734477832it is 2026 and people still fail to understand what gameplay is king means
>>734472771>MOGGED plus RAPED plus GAPPEDIndiegods run the scene
>>734478349This was proven correct when Highguard had 80k concurrent players but 2 million players overall
>>734472771J-JUST WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND BOOST CHUDS, MARATHON WILL SUCCEED
>>734474186Ban famitsu generals instead. Why do the mods allow these off topic garbage generals on this board?
>>734479289in the business they call that a genre with growth potential
>>734480674cultural phenomenon**tendie shit
>>734472771no deck builder chads are so back
Will the people at Bungie just kill themselves now?
>>734477128I don't, I just despise slopathon more.
>>734472771>>734477456>be me>decide to compare all of marathons competition to one another>it only beats Helldivers 2 and DayZi never seen a bungie title die so fast
>>734472771I'm probably an idiot but Marathon has held my attention a lot more than Destiny or Destiny 2 ever did. If everything Marathon did was at the level and tone of the faction intros, I'd probably have bought the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH_RCO9gw0QBut I just don't think there's an interesting long- or even medium-term experience here for me. It's just not engaging for the same reason why I stopped playing all Diablo-likes as a kid: picking up meaningless loot for currency is boring. It's uninteresting. It's chore. I don't play games for loot that is disposable and temporary; that's where Fromsoft and Elden Ring did such a better job. If I wanted the Marathon experience, I'd make an account in EvE Online and go into nullsec to get robbed once a week. And in EvE Online I can make more personal progress that won't be reset ever 3-4 weeks and build long-lasting relations in a corpo. I can't even do that in Marathon.
>>734476224What's the story here?
>>734472771StS is a piss easy """rogue"""lite for Chinese and egirls to autoplay in their second monitor.Marathon is a hypercompetitive game made for sweatlords.2026 /v/ somehow circlejerks over the casual game? What happened?
>>734476224
>>734480907>let me compare it to free gamesretard
>>734481036you wouldnt even make it to the first ascension let alone A20
>>734481036>Bungieshill pretends he's a person
>>734477668But E33 is the industry plant
>>734472771>Blast?Haven't>Form?Departed from>Bottle?Lightingless>Next big thing?Written nowhere>Vibes?Remained>Setback?Studied>Lobsters?Buttered
>>734472771>extract shit is floppinggood, I hope the devs get shitcanned>roguelike deckbuilder is doing wellfuck, I hope everyone who bought it dies a painful death
>>734481628Halo is watered down console shit and I never played Destiny, I only play PC shooters.
>>734480915ok maratranny
>>734472771elden ring vs horizon slop of dawn
>>734477845For A
>>734477982that's the funniest webm I've seen for a while
>>734474816What the other guys said but also because tons of indie games are made all the time. The sheer volume means some are bound to be good.
>roguelike deck builderFUCK OFF
>>734482520this is the dark souls of roguelike deck builders. in that it's the one that started the trend and that everyone else copied.
>>734482520It's THE roguelike deck builder. You can't hate it for that.
We need to ban steamchart threads.
>>734472771Why couldn't Bungie just make it a single player remake? Marathon is an existing franchise, and it being cool and stylish like the original would have sold like hotcakes In fact why couldn't Bungie remake Pathways in to Darkness as a horror FPS? Resident Evil got a luke warm reception this year, so it would have been a perfect year for Bungie to make a horror shooter
>>734482910Tahnit is an indian nane
>hit 88k on launch>is now at 68k during peak burger times on a saturday when people are offFucking kek, that means people played this garbage for a single day and a massive chunk of them refunded it.
>>734477629prove it
>>734474816AAA staffing has bloated with people who don't play AAA games, and are hostile to the games and to gaming. In the name of tolerance, you hire people who hate guns and the millitary to make r6 and COD, and the quality plummets. You force out the farther right people in the company, and your guns seem slilly and unrealistic.
>>734472771>Another rogueliteYeah nobody is playing that slop.
fuck man what multiplayer shooter am I even gonna play now if everything keeps fucking flopping
>>734475165Yes. But they're even worse. Rockstar. AC shadows. Skull and Bones. >>734475170No. You're still seeing sideways compression. There are quitters who haven't started the game yet. A low on tuesday might not even be stable.
b-b-but it was #1 on the sales charts...!
>>734477982Bro that's funny as fuck.
>>734472771Give it a Fucking chance you Cocksuckers! The weekend just started!
>>734475235I'm expecting a DARPA push for drone warfare games.
>>734472771>Game that cost 40 bucks>Game that has 22 bucksIt doesn't take a brain to figure this out, there's a lot of poorfags out there and Donald Dump being in office with everything being expensive as shit doesn't help either.
>>734481116kek this thread is alright
>>734483417Highguard was free and is kill
>>734477381It won the steambowl, the only place that matters.>inb4 cope
>>734474816no one wants to play the same walky talky bullshit for the hundredth time
>>734483559shut UP
>>734483417Shut up fag.
>>734483417>You're just poorfagsYea lmao, that worked so well for borderlands 4 too right. Not like it was so badly optimized even the normalfags couldnt stomach it
>>734483870Lol cope chuddie, your president sucks the cock of israel and the jews.
>>734472771I don't speak ebonics so I don't know how to answer that
>>734472771@UN @NATO do something!!
>>734476892>it's almost like people will advertise good products for freeSeems like everyone has forgot picrel
>>734478228phone games
>>734483967Not even talking about the president. Don't support him either. Just tired of people blaming one man for all their problems instead of shutting the fuck up and improving their own life.
>>734475165Quadrulpe A gaming was never a thing in reality. It was a forced buzzword that Ubisoft made up for Skull and Bones purely because they wanted to do anything to justify it's development cost and time, and to generate hype around it. The Singaporean government had a direct stake in it so its success and stakeholders weren't happy about it either, so anything to placate them was required. After that, it was a buzzword occasionally thrown out by 'analysts' and no one else.
>>734484034>enjoying a good game makes you a cultistI'm gladly a cultist then
>indie gaming is just mobile tier slop now
>>734484034>He's mad his shitty game is a flopBetter learn how to put the fries in the bag.
Holy fuck they are going all out on shilling mode at twitchHow much money are they throwing to these sub humans lol
>>734484221Are they? Every single big streamer dropped the game already. Seems like they arent paying enough
>>734484301go check it out
>muh chartsI'm having a blast
I dont care about either of these games. One is indie slop and one is online slop. Only big AAA single player games, like Resident evil 9 for example, matter. I'd rather stare at a wall than play either of those games in the op pic.
Bongo Cat wonSlay the Spire II wonBungie lost, should be closed and all its employees send to mine lithium
>>734477991I HECKING LOVE WHEN MY NON-CHINESE GAMES CELEBRATE CHINESE NEW YEAREVERYSINGLEYEAR
>>734484221nah, the explanation is quite simplePeanut likes the game a lot and him and Hutch have been playing it offline a lotTimTheFatMan just likes to piggyback off Peanut for views and moneynobody is paying Peanut to play it, he's actively losing money by being stuck below 35k viewers by not playing Arc or even Apexhe didn't play it on release either, so he's just doing whatever the fuck he wants, like i said he's lost 50% of his viewers day to day>what about shroudcontrarian jew who eats everything and anything up
>>734484517>Only big AAA single player games, like Resident evil 9 for example, matter. I'd rather stare at a wallMakes sense. Staring at yellow walls is all capcomfags are good at.
>>734474816
>>734472771How did we go from game is good because its plays/looks good, to game is good because number bigger? What the fuck kind of zoomer brain rot is this?
>>734476892>>slay the spire 2 had no marketing budgetThen who's paying for all these shill threads?
>>734484801better than indie slop or online slop
>>734482910I like how the only people wanting banning steam charts threads are people defending marathonSorry your slop game is mediocre and new Bungie is shit
>>734477991>make billions siphoning sales from shitty AAA devs and publishersbased if you ask mealso post some newer data after steam deck release
>>734474186HE SAID ITHE SAID THE THING
>>734485104>after steam deck releaseYeah bro a piece of shit that sold less than a ps vita surely added 5 trillion to valve!
>>734474816Yo ho ho he took a bite of cum cum
>>734472771While I think it's trash, the first StS is considered a staple and father of its genre. It is only natural that the second one will succeed. It also is easy to pick up for a round and drop, which attracts the casuals. If you're into that sort of stuff the gameplay can be very addictive. Marathon is being shat on and I doubt it was what people wanted it to be. There are some in this board who try desperately to get more people on the Marathon wagon, but a bad game is a bad game (or at the very least unappealing game).
It's just fun
>>734474983You can have your fun circle jerking yourselves on discord as well and you could spare the rest of us of your journo articles and twitter baits.
>>734485359Are you talking about steam charts or Marathon which has an actual factual official discord server
>>734485359>a tendie thread died for this ;_;
StS2 may not be the hero we expected, but it is the hero we needed.rape bungie.
>>734485524>>734485591I'm talking about these types of threads. The tendie threads can die as well in my opinion. Nintendo games threads can stay but the posters pretending to be on one side and then the other just to talk to themselves are just fucking pathetic.
>>734485743>StS2 may not be the hero we expected, but it is the hero we needed.What? What did cardslop do?
>>734484875>game is good>people want to talk about itsometimes things happen organically, like with astlibra revision
>second multi million dollar project this year to floop>got mocked by indie developers whose game alredy reached half a million players, while their game can't even get 100 thousandTriple A decade of humiliation
I'm glad I bought the game before I saw public reaction to it because it's actually good and the people saying it sucks haven't touched it. What a weird situation.
>>734485892I"M BLASTIIIIIING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
>>734485892over a million people played it during the test. it sucks.
>>734477394>if you ignore the numbers because people liked one moreYou sound like that Highguard dev
>>734485952It has a higher barrier to entry that's filtering the shit out of the arc raiders crowd. ADHD sufferers do not apply >>734485949Unironically.
>>734485892>samefagging this hardare you just a (you) slut or what
>>734475165Crimson desert releases in two weeks
>>734486159>barrier to entryin literally any modern AAA slop designed by literal psychologists to cater to and incentivize the largest possible audience to play
>>734474021E33 was a success and was well recieved, just wasnt as big a success. Marathon on the other hand...
what's the appeal of slay the spire 2?
>>734486284first game + more + the option for multiplayer this time
>>734485892NO NO NO YOU ARE A PAID SHILL//ERROR//BLAST IN BOTTLE //ERROR//
>>734486252Well they didnt do that. The shooting and combat is really good once you get over the 8 hours of learning what shit does. Like I said it's not for the ADHD crowd. You cant just jump in and immediately do well >>734486464Cheers fellow blastchad
>>734486280And yet e33 shill swear it's the second Renaissance to rpg games.
>>734486507>8 hours of learning what shit doesoh he's not pretending to be retarded, he's just retarded
>>734486564Impossible since it's not an rpg
>>734474816AAA largely don't compete against indies anymore because the genres are completely different.There is no AAA card battler to compete against Slay the Spire because it wouldn't be as good of a vehicle for microtransactions and the outsourced pajeets workers couldn't make that as easily on UE5 as they could a shooter.
I could see myself having fun with some very simple changes.But the fact they didn't put those things in by default makes me think the development environment isn't conducive to long term sustainability. Look at highguard, it confirmed what most people have suspected for a long time: toxic positivity completely fucks every single game in these megacorps because no one wants to be the guy to say "this actually sucks shit and we should change it".Because they'll get replaced by an indian.
>>734481024Goodbye Volcano High got revealed in one of the very first Absolute State of Play as a PS5 launch year title about woke dinosaur high schoolers, then went through development hell for nearly a decade. During that development time, some anons from 4chan were able to make and release Snoot Game, a furry VN where you date and fuck characters from GVH. GVH itself eventually came out to not much fanfare and is generally forgotten, when people post about its characters, it's 99% of the time about their Snoot Game counterparts. Snoot Game was a massive success within its niche (4chan /hmofa/ posters), so much so that its devs were able to use that success to catapult their career and launch a completely original VN on Steam, I Wani Hug That Gator.
>>734485785>>game is goodExactly what a marketeer would say
>>734487037Scalies aren't furry
>>734474816AAA hasn't adapted. They're still fixated on the old model, where one king would rule for maybe 3-5 years at most before competition started nipping at its heels, and having a game on standby to take the crown was paramount. This is in spite of the fact that AAA costs have spiralled out of control and the development times take even longer.This has lead to an industry that can't strike while the iron's hot yet banks on a winner every time, which leads to milking whenever something does get lucky, which then pisses off people who are getting gouged for all they're worth.It's also lead to consumers who simply don't value IP or studio recognition anymore. After all, why would they bother, when a studio last released a game when they were an entirely different person or have released so many shitty ones that their name is now a detriment? For a cost they refuse to pay for, no less?
>>734474851That would be an actually clever thing to do during a free play or beta weekend. Force /v/ to go play video games, then you can point to higher steam numbers when 4chan comes back online and /v/ starts arguing again.
>>734482291>>734483278Sociopaths detected
>>734487141They have hair
>>734485892I'll agree it's not a bad game. It will just fail to make a profit because it's barely north of meh in terms of gameplay, the UI/design style makes my eyes want to bleed and it's flat out not as good as the competition.It'll stay around 70-80k players this weekend, then lose more and more as time goes on until it bottoms out at maybe 10k active players on the weekends if they're lucky.
>>734487541So do you
Make steam chart threadsBump stream chart threadsPin stream chart threads
>>734473689Imagine believing the suits at that level having consequences for their actions. They only fall upwards
>>734477982This made me laugh really hard
The game simply doesn't work properly on controller, the console playerbase got filtered almost immediately, what were they thinking?The sensitivity is so low, the menu navigation is aids, the control scheme is retarded...sigh
tonight's the nightif it doesn't reach a new peak playercount, it will remain defeated by veilguard
So what caused this game to have such a dedicated group of haters? Bungie? Residual bloodlust from Concord/Highguard?The art style?
>>734482910>indians hate steamcharts threadsit all makes sense now
>>734488262Everyone hates corporations in general.
>>734488262turning marathon into a extraction shooter>>734487739chud is such a scoundrel
>>734485782mog the ever-loving fuck out of maratroon
>>734472771this is such an awesome win for videogames. the indie fun game just blowing out the gaas corporate slop. incredible work 10/10.
>>734472771>bungie already had to put out an "apology" for their monetization being, well bungiekek
>>734488262People wanted to see Bungie fail because they've been so arrogant and they ruined destiny. Sony same thing but for Playstation in general. Then it gets hate because it's live service so it's really all 3 things. Sony pushed all that woke shit too so maybe 4 things
>>734472771>woke liberal game featuring black qweens won over conservative AAA gamechuds lost
concord.As funny as it is that highguard flopped, and marathon isn't doing great, concord is unprecedented. It sold so few units across PS5 and PC that they opted to refund it instead of just keeping the money. That means it likely sold less than like 10,000 units, anything more would have been way too hard to give back and then write off as a tax thing.Concord is such an enormous deal, I fear the average person will not realize or see the true impacts it has had on gaming until sony goes under in however many decades and we see some of their documentation from around this era leak.It. Fucking. Killed. The. Company.
>>734488262LOL. This isn't even dedicated anon. This is only a step or two above regular companywars shit.
>>734472771This is fake, right? There's no way they came in with the steel chair and a curb stomp.
>>734486507>im cool because im totally a pro at this game that came out 2 days agonigger you aint shit
>>734474448i saw marathon and immediately saw neon extraction slop, surprised theres 40k playing it
>>734485785>astlibra revisionyou couldn't have picked a worse example, might as well have named onirism
>>734475235get fucked extractionsissy
>>734488262in my case, destiny and how I was ass raped by bungie for simply playing the game. >you boughted expansions?they are now removed from the game, bye bye.>the game awarded you with cosmetics by grinding and doing in game feats?we are now locking all upcoming good looking cosmetics behind the paid store. pay up goy.>you earned all this loot?we are now sunsetting all your loot. so you have to grind for the same loot in a couple of months when we rehash the content.The only live service game I've played and probably will be my final one. If they make a single player spinoff of destiny or marathon I'd gladly pirate it. They are however, not getting a single cent from me ever again.
>>734482910>Marathon just overtook Counterstrike in sales>Marathon overtook the decade-old game that everyone already owned in salesOof.
>>734488262All of those + the art theft, and the strongly left leaning style of the characters. Stealing from artists and being aggresively corporate while also being very public on your companies political stance (pro tranny, latinx, stuff complaining about "white males", etc.) manages to make both sides of the culture war not like you very much.
>>734477128/v/ has awful taste all around. Nowadays /v/ only discusses gachashit, tendieslop and goonerbait. This place should be nuked.
>>734488856It's real, they thought marathon was going to have like 200,000 players, and they thought they'd get maybe 100.The universe just decided to invite the humiliation on behalf of itself
How the fuck did Bungoid go from 1m+ players online on a single platform (Halo 3) to sub-100k across all platformsHow how how I blame women and trannies in game dev
>>734484117It doesn't make sense to compare a GTA6 budget, a star citizen, a skull and bones, a concord an ac shadows budget to a ghost of yotei.
>>734488262A rejection of live service + AAA gaming plays into it as well. The market is tired of US devs only putting out live service games. What's the last good single player release from AAA American devs? Even Metroid Prime 4 sucked shit.
>>734484871We had those threads during the playtest. Anyone could start a thread about gameplay. This is about the biz side. And it's flopping.
>>734472771I love seeing Snoys talk shit about indies only their slopcore games to be mogged brutally by indies.
>>734484301The only FPS person I know hasn't even tried it. she bought a Switch 2 and Pokopia instead.
>>734489104You must also not forget the tofu men and non gaming money men who put them in power. And we've had trannies in game dev since the 1980s. Just back then they were game playing autismos who's passion and objective was the game and who mostly worked behind the scenes on engine shit.
>>734472771Dunno, hopefully some kikes die
>>734484871But almost nobody said game is good during the playtests. >tie in basic movements to heat so your cyborg robot moves slower than a dude who jogs once a weekTheres a entire list of complaints people had with the game.
>>734475356Probably because it's a sequel of an already popular beloved game that was talked to death here already?There is not much to say because there is no controversy to make fun of, everyone who got the 1st will get the 2nd and that's that.
>>734475235good fuck you sweatlord dickheads, you dont deserve games.
>>734489104because people still refuse to acknowledge that just as they were in the past, consoles are a significant supermajority of video game players, highguard even showed it, steam was 20% of total players. Meaning there were several million on consoles (at least at the start). That's modern as modern gets for numbers and distribution.The real issue here is the expectations of devs, and the lack of immediate launch support.I remember when people boycotted marvel vs capcom 3 because of jill and shugorath being on disc DLC.Now devs are announcing season passes and DLC literally at the SAME TIME AS THE GAME ITSELF and no one even bats an eye.So devs put out less content in their games and then are surprised when a normal person finds it boring there's nothing to do. It's a big part of the complaints against marathon right now, if you want to talk purely game-related, the fact there's THREE FUCKING MAPS is ludicrous. You will feasibly have seen the entirety of the game and explored most of the maps within THREE. HOURS.anyway there were still over a million on ps5 and pc combined for marathon's launch. PS5 is the biggest console, this is not up for debate, it's just an objective fact. They regularly pull 5-10 million unique users daily. and unlike steam which accounts anyone opening the client, people aren't turning their system on without playing something.
>>734489440
>>734474021>still seethinglmao
>peaking below 75koh nonono marathon xisters I thought the weekend would propel us above 100k
>>734478336they weren't, silksong just had a massive shill campaign all over the shitty popular sites on the net
>>734479847>2 million players overallOr so they claimed.
>>734488262
>>734489743>shill campaignNo, it had meme status as a never ever game like Duke Nukem Forever, a Bloodborne port/remake/remaster and Uma Musume in Japan. The meme was asking about Silksong whenever a gaming conference was being held and the joke is that it was very likely not to show up because it was in dev hell for so long.
>>734482910
If this game was PVE I would have preordered day 1. I am not playing these zoomercore games where you die once you disconnect and lose everything
>>734488262>>734488415>turning marathon into a extraction shooterThis
>>734478085i played like 350 hours of Insurgency (2014) in uni on my T430 thinkpad and wireless mouse in the living room with my roommatethink i put maybe 30 hours into sandstorm, it just didn't feel like the same magic
>>734488262It isn't a single-player story-focused shooter like Marathon used to be.It has, in fact, almost fucking nothing in common with Marathon at all.It is a game clearly built to try and capitalize on the idea of Extraction-shooters with an IP that Sony had available to it.This is why I hate this Marathon and am glad it it will die.
>>734472771studio closures will continue until morale improves
>>734490162>It is a game clearly built to try and capitalize on the idea of Extraction-shooters with an IP that Sony had available to itWhy couldn't Bungie just make it a single player remake? Marathon is an existing franchise, and it being dark and edgy like the original would have sold like hotcakes and therefore Sony would have still made a fortune of money off of itIn fact why couldn't Bungie remake Pathways in to Darkness as a horror FPS? Resident Evil got a luke warm reception this year, so it would have been a perfect year for Bungie to make a horror shooter
>>734490365Its because selling a complete, fun game isn't as PONTENTIALLY profitable as drip feeding. But they can't cook so they are trying to drip feed a bucket of meaningless shit.
>>734490270Prawn doritos flavor kiss UWU!
>extraction shooterNot a genre btw
>>734490365Simple.They didn't go to Bungie and ask for them to make a game.They came up with the idea of an Extraction shooter and then told bungie to make it, hoping that Marathon would be enough of an IP to supercharge it into making Fortnite levels of money.While something more akin to the classic Marathon might've proven immensely more popular than what we got, we were never goning to get it. It would've simply been a different extraction shooter.
>>734472771>can't even beat silksong FUCKING LMAO cardfags
>>734490872'PVPVE roguelite shooter' doesn't roll off the tongue so easily.
>>734474186Ban all human posting, this is a bot board
>>734490017You never cared about marathon poser
>>734474021spbp
>>734491205"Dogshit certified classic for goycattle slaves" is succinct enough
>>734491025>While something more akin to the classic Marathon might've proven immensely more popular than what we got, we were never goning to get it. It would've simply been a different extraction shooter.I get what you're saying, but such a level of cynicism will lead Sony to empirically making less money, not more. Why make the cynical decision when it can be demonstrably shown to be less profitable than the optimistic and good quality choice?
>>734491025>They didn't go to Bungie and ask for them to make a game.I don't understand why people don't get thisPublishers are just retards in suits telling female and indian programmers who failed to make it in the tech world and found the only job that would hire them in a game dev studio to make some mass market product to throw marketing dollars at for as big of an audience as they can try to conjureLong gone are the days of developmental freedom or inspiration, or devs making games they think would be fun to playThat exists only in the AA and Indie space, which is why it's shitting all over AAA in recent years
>>734491284The marketing guys can't put that on the boxes, though- or use it during the PVs.
>>734483132E33 has constant buyers while silksong only had those easily impressionable kids that bought it at release and then dropped it after 20 minutes
>>734472771there was lethal company mogging call of duty
>>734491217fatum lustum stultorum
>>734472771This doesn't count xbox and PlayStation figures you retards. They dwarf PC, there's probably 8million+ right now.
Why is Slay Spire so successful? What is it about the game that attracts so many people? Thank you.
>>734491521The slave caste is attracted to card games. They remind them of good old times.
>Hollow Knight was the first Indie game from the dev>Silksong was their much anticipated sequel set to win every goty award since every streamer was talking about it>E33 ends up sweeping insteadWill never not be funny.
>>734477832Every time a game breaks 200k China is somehow involved.
>>734474816Video games used to be nerds making games for other nerds to enjoy. Then at some point it became an industry, the same as movies. The literal psychopath CEOs stepped in and started saying "number must get bigger", and they started trying to reverse engineer "fun" via analytics and engagement metrics. Eventually, the engagement metrics became what "fun" is to these psychopathic CEOs, because they have never played a video game in their life so they can't understand that "fun" is not simply "high engagement metrics", but they don't understand that, so they began engineering games to revolve around different "engagement metrics". Higher "engagement" = more fun, right? So lets make every game have dailies, and lets copypaste everything that sold well, forever. Innovation became bad because true innovation cannot be compared to a previously analyzed engagement metric, and therefore cannot possibly be fun. Indies devs carry the spirit of the original game developer, where it's nerds who play games making games for other nerds who play games.
>>734491689Rare based pajeetpost.
>>734491787AI can be based, anon. I say that as a white, jaded boomer.
>>734488262im not a dedicated hater bungie is actually just leftists in a skinsuit, actual bungie is dead, or rather the talent was spread around and hasn't worked at bungie in a decade, the company itself is just a diversity hire shithole nowso i don't pay any attention to games they make besides to check in now and then like im doing hereim what these companies actually fear mostnot a dedicated hater who will obsess about the game, but a former fan who checked out and doesn't pay attention to them anymoreafter this I'll just hide all the marathon threads and ignore the game's existence
>>734491406post the profits for each
>>734488262>So what caused this game to have such a dedicated group of haters?a few things:>turned an original sci-fi fps into an extraction shooter>focused development on Marathon meant abandoning Destiny 2 so now Bungo has very bad rep>art theft>people want to see every live-service game crash and burn, Highguard only added fuel to the fire Concord started
>>734474816AAA games are about scamming money from gamers and trying to make them into addicts than making actual fun games.
>>734491479why lie?
>>734483632>the only place that matterspffftahahahahahahahahahaha
>>734488262>So what caused this game to have such a dedicated group of haters?For me it's:>Bungie literally only ever patched Destiny 1 to make it worse, literally nothing good ever happened after its initial release>Destiny 2 launched as a carbon copy of the current patch of Destiny 1, which is the worst Destiny 1 ever was>Bungie spent years slowly patching Destiny 2 to be sort of like how Destiny 1 was, including making Destiny 2 movement fast how Destiny 1 used to be, adding random rolls to weapons back, even to the point that half of Destiny 2's content was literally just ported from Destiny 1>the "sunset" weapons and armor in both games, making them completely unusable, they did this once in Destiny 1 and they also did it in Destiny 2>they then completely removed like 70% of the game including a narrative that was plagiarized>which brings me to Marathon's plagiarism fiasco>Bungie just keeps plagiarizing shit while simultaneously only ever patching their games to be worse and less fun than they used to be, shilling microtransactions out the wazoo>Marathon is literally just the free roam option of Destiny, with less planets, and PvP enabled, that's exactly what Marathon is>it's slow and shitty, just like Destiny 2 was at launch>given Bungie's track record they will literally only ever patch Marathon to make it worse, no better>if anyone finds anything fun to do in Marathon, it will inevitably be patched to be less fun, because Bungie is driven by engagement metrics, and the only way they know to "increase" engagement metrics is by nerfing the things that are most "engaged" with>everything you like in Marathon, if you like anything, will be nerfed over time >the least fun thing you can find to do in Marathon will eventually be the most fun thing, except it wont be made fun, it's just that all the fun shit got nerfed to be even less fun>...and also the 3.5 *BILLION* dollars thing
>>734476510
>>734479193Yeah he meant Silksong mogging E33
Another indie game destroying AAA trash.Now note, whenever this happens, some shills appear from the depths of hell citing E33, as they have already done in this thread.Why? Because that ""indie"" game, financed by billionaires and full of Kabbalistic-Masonic symbolism (what a coincidence!), was an attempt by the Saturn-worshipping elite to subvert this "indies are better" logic.They realized that indie games are on the rise, they noticed that the traditional industry is failing to adapt, and they saw an opportunity to infiltrate and spread their filth while making money in the process.They even used the old Jewish tactic of awarding themselves to attract normalfags (which worked very well with the goyim consuming on Steam).
>>734492551shillbot has a new imageget hype
>>734492551use literally any other marathon character for this and the argument instantly falls apart
>>734474983fuck this image is sad. And I say that as someone who is loving watching Bungie crash and burn
>>734492481>this man trusts the guy who shilled Highguard on television no less>this man trusts the gaming judges where half of them don't play games, like Esquire, Pride, Variety, and Rolling Stone but dictate who wins the game awardsListen anon, I went out of my way with the whole>inb4 copeand I've gone above and beyond the Call of Duty to prove you trust people with abhorrently shit taste like the TGAs.Luckily you're trolling.
>>734492979nothing sad about a couple of lads having a good time
>>734474983KEK
>>734474186I don't understand why you retards keep seething at Steam chart threads. At least the topic is VIDEOGAMES instead of politics, porn, AI, consolewars, ecelebs... I like to analyze corporate markets from an outsider point of view and I like to view charts like these because it's interesting to witness games succeed or fall. You have 300 other threads to shit on.
>>734472771Is Slay the Spire just pure gameplay? Does it have story?
>>734474021This one riled up the silksissies
>>734493285>Does it have storyAfter like 150 hours in the first and 10+ now in the second I can honestly say I have no ideaI would assume there's no story but if there were some complex web of insane lore going on I would be none the wiser
>>734474021I wonder if we will ever see a game as artificially shilled as E33. That shill campaign is one for the books.
Lol
>>734492893Im sorry to say this but all three chicks in the game look hot. Yes even the fucking camera head one. It's fine if you don't agree but you might just be gay.
>>734493456Ah so it's purely gameplay. is the second game a direct upgrade over the first one?
Now include the Sony figures.
if there hadn't been external politics attached to the game you all would have been playing it obsessively, doing the niggerniggernigger routine into mic thinking it the peak of humor, and make endless general boards to arguing retarded takes in despite it being a boring piece of shit just like every other game you play. fuck Bungie (which isn't really Bungie), but more importantly fuck all of (You)
>>734493630>makes up scenario in head and gets mad at it
>>734472771God bless Steam, I can't think of any other platform or company that allows the customer to see trends and playercounts in real time. Every dickbag corporation wants to obfuscate as much as possible to trick people out of their money and keep their bullshit going.
>>734492621>he doesn't know "indie" games are also corporatized horseshit often virally spread with guerilla marketing tactics employed by sleazy fucks from "producers" like Hooded Horse or in this case a bunch of sleazy fuck ex marketing agency types who also happen to be able to slap together the market approved game themselves and skip the plucky solo dev altogether.
>>734493824said the outrage addicted retard. sasuga dana
>>734491368Because they bet on the Extraction shooter genre being the next Battle Royal, and were willing to gamble an IP with an existing fanbase for the potential of Fortnite levels of money.
>>734494080i am actively making you mad by doing literally nothing, this is why the chuds win.
>>734493843Hey, corporations are people too. We should be nicer to them
>>734494167>I am actively believing I am doing nothing and causing everything around me to go five kinds of retarded and therefore I am winningshiggy
>>734494325just tab back into your game fagass
>>734476224>transgender humanoid dinosaurslmao
>>734494392>he said marathon sucks and I suck so he must be playing marathon!I fucking hate your criminally retarded internet brained fucks so much. just still being retarded! it's really easy!
>>734493596The second plays just like the first, all the enemies (normal, elites, and bosses) are new, attacks have real animations (there was some charm to the generic lurching forward for attacks but the animations in the sequel are great), three of the four playable characters from the original return (and I believe they're adding the fourth later, it's still in early access) and there are two new characters with their own unique mechanicsSo basically yes a direct upgrade over the first with new content in the form of new enemies, new characters, new cards, new events, new relics, etc.I'd still recommend that people up the bundle considering StS2 is 25 bucks and you can get both for 28, and like I said all the enemies in the sequel are new so the only way to experience the enemies and bosses from the first are to play the first
>>734474918Also>Well optimised, runs om all hardwarevs>Requires high end hardware just to break 30fps and still a buggy mess
>>734472771what the fuck does an extraction shooter have to do with an indie game made in flash, its like saying "HAHA CANDY CRUSH BEAT MARIO BROS IN SALES" ok and? damn is this what passes for game discussion these days here? holy fuark tbqdesu
>>734494615they came out on the same day, its nice to know that people are growing tired of lame live service drivel in favor of stuff made by people who actually like their consumers.
>>734494615Good games sellCorporate mass marketed products failWe love to see it
>>734475087BotW and Horizon
>>734485776Just close the tab kiddo it's the X at the top
>>7344894404735 on xbox
>>734475235
>>734495125i genuinely don't understand how people still play this absolute dogshit scam of a "game"and this is coming from someone who couldn't get enough tarkov for like 2-3 wipes back in like 2020 or so
>>734472771>see what game is>its some shitty TBC slopPC gamers really are a majority of faggots.Didnt they have a game, most played and it was clicking on a bananaNot saying the FPS game is gonna be any better but this game is pure dog turedhttps://youtu.be/NhfIsNV_Oew?t=672
>>734495298>and this is coming from someone who couldn't get enough tarkov for like 2-3 wipes back in like 2020 or soSo you do understand how people can enjoy this game
>>734494684>>734494706so why are you here instead of playing slay the queer 2
>>734495417you can play it in windows mode anon.
>>734495417i could care less about that game, im just championing it because i hate bungie and want them to be raped and defiled. you got a problem with that?
>>734495310>Goes back to playing FIFA
>>734495417I've played over 10 hours of StS2 already
>>734495417Malding are we?
>>734479289Why are there tons of sweaty games that still have more players years on then? This is cope. It's just a shit game
>>734495609>geee I wonder why the most popular sport in the entire world also has comparable video games that are also popularYou are a retard.The fucking irony there is shit like FIFA is bought by the most normiest of normaies, people who buy one game a year...the new sports game, year after year.Where this shitty indie game is bought by enthusiasts of vidya who have gone out their way to buy a custom machine dedicated so they can play slop and click on bananas.Only saving grace there is PC is also full up on third worlders, chinks and slavs so that hits the numbers in PC only played games too.
>not even cracking 76k on a weekendbut bros... the subreddit said we'd be saved... we were supposed to be at 150k by now...
>>734479193Did e33 really only have 150k peak players? It was shilled EVERYWHERE, everyone said how it was the best game ever, won all the awards, had a movie in works before the game came out... yet only 150k despite all that insane hype?There's something... unnatural about this...
>>734474581>wonAt being flash games yeah (those were free btw)
>>734496317gamepass
>>734474816For everyone 1 AAA game that comes out there's 1000's of indie games that's released.Most AAA games today are just copy/paste and the exact same shit we've seen a billion times already the past 1-2 decades.Indie games at least (at times) try and do something new and fun. So there's a chance that one of the tens of thousands indies that's released is good. You never hear about all the failures tho.
>>734487037My only worry is that Cavemanon doesn't get lost in the sauce itself. I'm willing to chalk up the Wani dev issues to inexperience and miscommunication and forgive the retarded decisions they've been taking for Snoot lately because gator sexo but Exit 665 better have a good reason to not be hmofa and evade any gay drama lest they become yet another Ko_op
Peak primetime weekend blastingConcord 3
>>734481248>PUBG started 2022 as free-to-play, originally priced at $30 when it launched in 2017.>Rainbow Six Siege started as a free-to-play game in 2025, originally priced at $40 when it launched in 2015>Helldivers 2 is $40>Arc Raiders is $40>DayZ is $50It's a total shame that Marathon only managed to surpass one game at launch, compared to all the others, which are also similarly priced
>>734473689Probably shrug it off because suits never face actual consequences for their fuck ups. At worst he'll get a massive severance package, a positive referral, and then after he's partied his way through his severance package he'll get an executive position with Activision or EA
>>734472771Can Marathon sue Spire for making them look bad?
>>734474816AAA "games" are not games they are interactive movies
>>734474021The 33 expeditroonie fans didn't appreciate this
>>734496643>I'm willing to chalk up the Wani dev issues to inexperience and miscommunicationI think part of the issue was that most of the team were kind of pussies who let the more troublesome team members walk all over them. Like look at the shit with the dude who came up with Mia. They spent way too long entertaining that dude's bullshit. The moment that dude started making bullshit demands ands trying to withhold his shit unless they met his demands they should have just said "Fuck you, you're fired". His sole contribution to the game was one easily replaceable character. Why feed into his ego? Same goes for the dude who was flippant about actually working on the game and kept going back and forth about being too depressed to keep working on the game. At that point, make the decision for him: fire his faggot ass and find someone who isn't going to drag his heels like a little bitch all the time.
>>734496776wtf, it's a 69k now????
>>734496776GUYS WE CAN SAVE THIS! WE MADE APPROXIMATELY $3.5 MILLION AGAINST OUR $200 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET! WE JUST NEED TO MAKE APPROXIMATELY $190 MILLION FROM MTXs, SEASON PASSES, AND ADDITIONAL COPIES SOLD! WE CAN SALVAGE THIS GUYS WE CAN AT LEAST BREAK EVEN
uhhhhh... marathonsissies, our response?
>>734500668>GUYS WE CAN SAVE THIS! WE MADE APPROXIMATELY $3.5 MILLION AGAINST OUR $200 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGETDoes that include Steam's "tip" lol?
>>734500858urrrr uhhh paid game vs free... I can't pretend anymore. It's over.
>>734472771>snoys have to pay 10 dollars a month to play this piece of shit online
>>734496776I downloaded Bongo Cat thanks to this thread.
>>734500858NOT SO FAST
sing with me>https://files.catbox.moe/o8sxqv.mp4
Here's how marathon can still win
>>734496317Delayed reaction. New IP and a new studio working on a AAA game usually results in total dogshit. But through positive word of mouth, it blew up.Like how the John Wick movies did.
>>734496317>had a movie in works before the game came out... yet>There's something... unnatural about this...You don't say.
>>734472771It's almost 7:00pm in the US and the player count is already decreasing. Just a reminder than Sony bought Bungie for 3.6 Billion dollars, and the budget is probably around 500 million dollars.
>>734501375It's funny watching big corporations burn money. I hope Sony never gives up, and releases Fairgames next.
>>734501302Anon that's really common at this juncture. Movies don't need to be billion dollar affairs.
>>734474983That’s funny
>>734501302Netflix does that all the time, they are desperate for more subscribers
>>734501375Dont forget that Bungie is basically in charge of their entire live service operation and they are the reason why the last of us multiplayer got cancelled.They are costing Sony way more than what they spent buying Bungie and funding Marathon.
>>734501761Bungie were also the ones that told Sony to buy Firewalk and convinced them that Concord was going to be the next Star Wars.
>>734501559>>734501756>"i-i-it's totally normal for a no-name studio to make a no-name game, funded by daddy's venture capitalist firm, China, and the French government, and it's really just standard procedure to already have a movie deal before the game releases, get with the times old man"KEK
I was expecting 90k for this saturday at least, what the hell is happening
>>734501761I'm starting to wonder if Sony was like Microsoft, and had some retard employees in charge, that believed if they bought Bungie, they'd somehow own Halo?
>>734472771>small indie passion projectsI honestly don't know if he's being sarcastic or not since twitter is full of retards
>>734501843Are you talking about Highguard or E33?
>>734501893I was expecting a 100,000. It's the same pattern as the Server Slam demo.>Peaks on Thursday night>Drops Friday and Saturday.At least it's not as bad as Highguard I guess.
>>734501890Why? It's the only bit of "transparency" we have in game sales. lol
>>734486805>There is no AAA card battler to compete against Slay the Spire because it wouldn't be as good of a vehicle for microtransactionsDude, fucking Hearthstone.
>>734501948E33
>>734474983kek
wheres the saturday pump?
>>734472771marathon numbers arent even bad the problem is player retention, slay the spire is just ridiculous numbers, probably blow up in china to get those numbers
>>734501991it's a meme metric akin to the same retards who go ballistic about gacha revenue at the start of each month
blastbros.... 55th hour checkin. Are you ready for the saturday night rally?
>>734486805>>734501993>There is no AAA card battler to compete against Slay the Spire because it wouldn't be as good of a vehicle for microtransactionsActually, it's Chaos Zero Nightmare, and it's a gacha game.
>just spent the past 3 minutes clicking on every post to respond "all me btw">there's a character limitI've never hated the jews more than I do right now
>>734502078Yeah, admittedly Hearthstone was more back in the day when Blizzard was a somewhat more functional zombie.
>>734488262>So what caused this game to have such a dedicated group of haters? I don't hate it, I just think it's hilarious that Bungie and Sony thought it was a good idea to sink so much money into it and it's funny to laugh at how oblivious they are of the game industry.It's common fucking knowledge that extraction shooters are an extremely niche genre. Most of them just die after a few months like Marauders and even the few successful ones like Tarkov and Hunt Showdown are rapidly dwindling. You'd have to be really fucking stupid to look at the genre and go "Yep, we're going to blow a few hundred million bucks developing and marketing an extraction shooter. This game's sure to get hundreds of thousands of players, maybe millions, and make us a fortune!"Shit, even the fucking retards at Activision had enough common sense to just make an extraction shooter game mode in CoD rather than make an entirely separate CoD extraction shooter game.I just genuinely want to know how the fuck they came to the conclusion that a AAA extraction shooter had any chance of being a success.
>>734472771slay the spire is bigger and more relevant than modern day bungie however
>>734502074I don't feel so good Mr. Chud
>>734502147>Yeah, admittedly Hearthstone was more back in the dayHearthstone isn't even the same genre as Slay the Spire. Slay the Spire is a roguelite deckbuilder. CZN is also a rogue(like) deckbuilder. Hearthstone is a traditional TCG.
>>734502078Isn't that basically just Fate:GO?
>>734472771Maybe Sony should have purchased MegaCrit for $3.6 billion dollars.
>>734493229Who's talking about video games? It's just numbers.
>>734502078This looks utterly soulless in comparison anon
>>734499621The only bad thing ever happen to the suits is an 'early retirement' and then replaced by a jeet
>>734501890>>734474983
>>734475235it speaks more to AAA completely eating shit. big budgets and dev cycles simply cant compete with one guy creating a genre in his bathtub.
>>734502276No, CZN is Slay the Spire (or more accurately, probably Chrono Ark) with Darkest Dungeon's sanity meter, but a gacha game.
>>734501843All it takes is one good source of funding, yeah. The idea that E33 MUST be some billion dollar secret shilling campaign is insane. To what end? Who is benefiting? What dark and evil master is E33 setting the field for?
>Sony keeps trying to pull off a Fortnite>Keeps forgetting Fortnite is fucking FREE TO PLAY
>>734496317>>734501172>Delayed reaction.You can tell that was the case since the all-time peak came a whole week and a half after release from good word of mouth.
>>734496317It's not a multiplayer game so people could start playing it after it starts popping off. Also Game Pass
>>734502356>"b-b-but WHY would ANYONE ever shill ANYTHING?">"...it just doesn't even make any sense!"LOL
>>734487037>a furry VN where you date and fuck characters from GVHYou did not play Snoot Game. You probably should, for the record.
>>734502434Okay, so you can't actually answer anything. Here's another question, if shilling your game to a success is this easy, why aren't other AAA studios with even greater funding also doing it?
Man, I'm reading through the thread and I'm having a blast. You guys have truly captured lightning in a bottle.
>>734502484>Okay, so you can't actually answer anything.What is there to answer, anon? Your argument is that it doesn't even make sense to shill games. That's disingenuous at best and retarded at worst.
>>734496409A lot of those failures also come from first time indies or asset flips. Most 90% of the game would be forgotten into oblivion with about a dozen to hundreds players at most but they also probably just cost hundreds or thousands at most. But I can see how the indie space rots by having one breakout success followed by 1000s of low effort copycats (see: jumping games, phasmo clones, social deduction clones and survivor clones)
>>734502595My point is that the level of shilling you're attributing to E33 is apparently both total and utterly successful. State plainly, how much money do you think E33 spent to shill?
>>734476224>>734481116kek, maybe I should play this game. Didn't the mods delete these threads on sight for a while too?
>>734502284Anons here are talking about how the game is doing, and it looks not so great
>>734502340Yeah AAA dev cycle just doesn't make sense. Any time a new trend breaks out by the time the game is complete whatever FoTM genre that was popular (hero shooters, battle royale, etc) would've fizzled out. And during development you have to keep the Karens employed or pay severance for a project that's doomed to fail.
>>734502696>State plainly, how much money do you think E33 spent to shill?How would I have any idea whatsoever how much money it costs to buy every TGA award or how much money it costs to buy a month's worth of being the only /v/ thread in the catalogue? I have no idea. I can't even begin to ballpark a number.
>>734496317Was on gamepass, i don't even understand why anyone would purchase it in the first place. It's the kind of game you play, finish and never touch again until a major DLC/expansion comes. <$10 for a gamepass month is a better deal. (Yeah I'll own nothing and I'll be happy.)
I don't see any event where Bungie "dies* unless Sony decides to sell it at a loss. They bought talent, skills and franchises. They're just going to invest in Destiny & Marathon but going forward there will probably be outsiders from Sony directing them and adjustments would be made. Which given how poorly the last several D2 expansions have been should be welcome. The company has the money to sink into it and turn things around in the next 5-10 years, maybe even sooner. The doomposting here doesn't make sense.
>>734502906>They bought talent, skills and franchises.The talent and skill left after the mandatory period that they were required to stay a Bungie for after the acquisition.
>>734474983>blast haverlmao
>>734502906>The doomposting here doesn't make sense.How many games did it take for ubisoft to get china'd? They were a massive publisher too.I imagine it'll take half that amount for Bungie to be deemed unprofitable and get shuttered or sold.
>>734502906they lay off most of the devs and replace them with jeets
>>734502887Yes, so you are of the opinion that truly unprecedented levels of money were spent exclusively to make this small french game make less revenue than most AAA games. Why? Who benefit? Was everyone just stupid? It means everyone took a huge bath and the shilling campaign placed the game DEEP in the red.
>>734502906>Bungie is being sold to the Saudis, how this is a good thing (Part 1)
>>734488625>black women>silentHA
>>734474918>sell you the entire gameI know what you mean but it's funny because op's game is early access
>>734487315I'm not installing kernel-level anti cheat.
>>734474186pin steam charts threads
Extraction shooters are a niche genre, there will never be any shortage of future social security check spender slot crankers
>>734503073>Yes, so you are of the opinion that truly unprecedented levels of money were spent exclusively to make this small french game make less revenue than most AAA games.No, I did not say that. The "small French game" is very well connected and had a movie deal before it even released. There is clearly something "abnormal" about this "small indie" game. I don't know if the dad's venture capitalist firm perhaps funded a new "covert" style paid shill firm or perhaps they paid for AI bots or what. I have no idea how much it cost, I have no idea how much of it was favors called in by people who are extremely well connected in the business world. What I do know is that no game in the history of video games has ever been artificially shilled to the same degree.>Why? Who benefit? There you go again, pretending that there's no reason anyone would ever shill anything. Can you at least attempt to be sincere or at least pretend to argue in good faith?
>>734474615>I would love to spend other people's money>I can't spend my own because I don't have any>I don't have any because I'm not good with moneyThat's why communism doesn't work, btw. People who could never amass those resources deciding how they should be spent is fucking retarded. >b-but right now isn't perfect eitherYes, but things could be infinitely worse.
>>734472771The Great Moggerino of 2026
>>734503608Okay, so you think E33 has merely revolutionized shilling. Also, that they were what, the first to think of trying to buy out game awards?
>>734502323you need a hobby
>>734503870>Okay, so you think E33 has merely revolutionized shilling.You could put it that way, yes.
>>734503990Unless that shilling revolution is way cheaper than previous models, the investors will still have taken a bath. If it is actually true, then I hope you're ready for everyone to adopt identical strategy
>>734503915Like video games? Thanks I know I wish too bad they're all fucking yid and tran infested
>>734504147>Unless that shilling revolution is way cheaper than previous modelsOnce again, we don't know if perhaps some of it might have been favors connected to daddy's venture capitalist firm. >the investors will still have taken a bathWe also don't know this. It might be cheaper to pay a couple hundred Indians to shitpost on 4chan than it is to even buy 1 commercial (as in, "commercial", not referring to a TV commercial) ad. >If it is actually true, then I hope you're ready for everyone to adopt identical strategyI've already said a few times that retarded companies are going to make E33 clones. Smart companies are going to copy the marketing instead. Take for example the Marathon shill threads. 8+ concurrent shill threads immediately before the plagiarism debacle, the 8+ concurrent threads started up right before the free weekend, now it's mostly gone and everyone is just "having a blast". E33 was 20+ threads 24/7 for an entire month, very cleanly and entire month too, as in it ended June 1st and the threads were dead by June 2nd. I'm sure you could recruit a Discord of retards to pay a meager wage to go hard for a month as opposed to whatever route Bungie/Sony took. Even the gacha Discords raid other gacha threads by paying third worlders with $5 Google play cards. And that's unorganized retards who don't own any companies.
>>734485104>>734477991Those numbers are obviously made up and you're both retarded for thinking they aren't.
>>734504428I don't believe your theory but if every single AAA game starts being a "hit" in the same way I might.
>>734504428Why do companies need /v/ threads? Can't they just... rent out all of Polygon, Gematsu, and friends which gets them 10,000 reviews?
>>734479289>unless you make it a casualAh, the Highguard cope. Beautiful.
>>734477832>b-but we spent 100m ripping off random art station trash >how can we lose against a soulful indie game Suffer, AAA-drone.
Bought both.Enjoying bothsimple as
>>734504631Ask Morgan Park for xhisers opinion on that matter
>>734480915For some reason a lot of modern gamers have an obsession with 'looting' to the point that looting literal garbage so you can pay for stuff that's not garbage is now an entire genreIt's strange to see so many shooting games lean away from focusing on shooting and level design to stupid shit like inventory management and loot economics, and now you have shooting games where players can play a whole session without ever shooting anyone. The whole thing makes me wonder what the point of looting all that garbage is if you're not going to engage in combat anyway.
>>734474186tpbp
I watched the trailers. Slay the Spire (2) looks pretty fucking boring.
>>734474816Progressive politics, most of these indie devs are pretty woke themselves but a smaller team can minimise the damage, less issues with hiring lazy incompetents and the nature of the ideology also means whatever each person is most extreme about everybody else will go along with as well, so a smaller team means less extreme positions
I feel like I have to preface this with saying I don't really care about marathon since you niggers are rabid retards who take anything that isn't attacking the game as praise.But 80k players one platform in a cross-platform game that maxes out in 18 per match is not dead on arrival, at least as far as the end consumer is concerned.No doubt Sony is wringing their hands and sweating since they didn't materialize 2 billion bucks out of the ether like they wanted and Bungie is going to have the usual round of sacrificial lay offs so their team leaders can keep collecting their undeserved whale bucks but for the player? Nah this isn't some concord or highguard situation where the game is legit DOA unplayable doomed to die in a month type of shenanigans.
>>734504219sts2 literally just came out but it seems you're so brown you don't even have the money for that
>>734504985The [Endoengeneering of Marathon: Part 1] is so powerful my vibe check is passed and my loins are bursting at the possibilities
>STS2 is in Early Access>Has significantly more content than a $40+battlepass+microtransaactions game doesMarathon fucking sucks, holy shit
Megacrit deserves this so much, it's so fucking rare to have an indie that isn't shit reach the top. Now granted they could let it get to their heads and start doing DLC or something, but I got so much mileage out of 1 and paid just $11 for 2 I wouldn't even be mad.
>>734496317No anon, a game made by a millionare with daddy funding, and a movie already in the working before the game was even realized, that won basically all awards (and even the indie award, wtf?), getting raped and gaped almost 4 times over by a "rogue"lite cardgame makes lots of sense.
>>734474186Begone jew!
>>734474186>Noooo don't give customers information on player population, just let them purchase a dying multiplayer game noooo!!!Kill yourself
>>734472771>Has there EVER been a more brutal and effortless mogging in the HISTORY of gaming?the slur raiders haters had to move onto slay the spire because marathon is so good, why not compare it to minecraft or something. arc players get farmed by the npcs in marathon. the skill ceiling is higher in marathon. that filters people and gamers love to hate. everything has to be a binary with these basic bitches. it is part of OP's identity that he hates some games. cringe
>>734505634Based
>>734474186>LEAVE THAT 3.6 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE
>>734505746A million flies cant be wrong
>>734477982>indian bus driver.webm
>>734474021>all these triggered Silksong pedoskek
>>734485892I dont believe you Rabbi.
>>734502731Yes, while blatant off-topic was protected and "cultural phenomenon" threads got babysat. 2020-22 was probably rock bottom for 4chong moderation, and that's saying something on the site that's been calling for total janny annihilation for 15 yearsPersonally Snoot was never my cup of tea but it's still worth a playthrough for board culture alone
>>734501893The free market anon, that's what's happening.
>>734502731It's alright, but the writer(s?) was a little too eager for approval from bad faith actors so the endings don't really match the rest of the narrative and feel like lip service.
>>734499687The funniest part of it all is that the tweet was early on launch day before any real sales/player numbers, it was supposed to be a self deprecating jest about launching their indie sequel alongside Bungies new thing, they just happened to mog them into fucking oblivionhttps://www.ign.com/articles/slay-the-spire-2-dev-never-thought-it-would-actually-pass-marathon-in-steam-concurrents-says-congratulations-post-seems-a-bit-meaner-than-intended
>>734505213The original I believe also launched via early access and ended up being crafted into probably the single most tight and polished and perfect game I've ever playedI can't think of anything it did wrong
>>734474448Where were you when indie studio Wildlight Entertainment needed you?
damn slay the spire is still at 300k playersthats is actually insane
>>734507153Oh yeah, Spire was really dire when it first launched, people have no idea because no one played it, they only started to join several updates in, when Ironclad and Silent were already mostly defined and Defect was a new class along with Act 3 (or was it 4? I forget). People have no reference to how much better 2's launch is.
>>734507468nearly 350 and climbing
West Coast is hopping on, time to see if it surpasses yesterday's peak
>>734504607Cope
Numbers are down this weekend due to DST time change, people are going to bed an hour earlier. Next weekend for sure.
IGN bros... why can't they prop up the game...
>>734507802It will, by about 5k. Still shy of the release peak though. It will settle around 40-60k concurrent on a consistent basis; the valley raising, the peak lowering.
>>734474983lmao. Bodied that freak.
>>734494814Every single game ever vs Horizon i dont understand who buys or plays these shitty games, if you dropped console bundle sales from the PS4 Zero Dawn wouldnt be on anyone's libraries except for the autistic German's who controls Sony with an iron fist.
blastbros...saturday night fever 57 hours in. The streets are watching.
>>734508063This is it. Shoot for 80k. STRETCH.
>>734493229No it isn't. Nobody is talking about the game. It's all retards talking about how le woke videogame developer is going to shut down any day now.Bungie and Marathon are shit and can all die in a fire for all I care but I have never once given a fuck about how many players a game has beyond it having enough to be playable.
>>734508706So why did you click on this thread? Even if you were looking for a thread to talk about the game itself there are plenty of those too.
two more weeks and the game is dead bros. just you wait!
>>734480907I can't believe how popular PUBG is and how little presence it has. Like I haven't heard anyone talk about the game in like three years.
>>734508812Not sure why you're doing the smug sarcastic act. It's losing players on the weekend after launch, at this rate it will be dead by then
>>734508884not trying to be a funny lil chud but it's unironically china and india propping those numbers up
>>734508706There is no game when live service has to shutdown due to no players. Shove your thinly veiled interest up your ass, resetera.
>>7345089292 more weeks
>>734508929T W O MOREWEEKS
>>734508931>and indiaGross.
>>734508929Wait for Cryo Archive
>>734508982>>734508995damn bungie, if you're paying shills at least tell them to spread their posts out a bit more so it's not as obvious
>>734495125>Hardcore shooter just means the game is jank to playProve me wrong
>>734508976The game has 50k players on steam alone. Likely more than that on consoles. The game isn't shutting down any time soon.You being a retard doesn't mean I like the game>>734508764To call you retarded
>>734509272Define jank
>>734510173Down from 80k on launch over 3 days, during a weekend. It's already on a death spiral and this isn't just me saying it, your resetera sisters are already coping about weak console sales and a f2p hailmary.
>>734510173It peaked at 75k so far and hasn't gone up to 78k (yesterday's peak) yet. It's definitely dying.
