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Game is finally up.
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no dub no download
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>>735596796
I dont remenber rikku being this white
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>>735596819
lmfao there is no Eng dub??? only Jap dub? I won't even download it for free to test it now. Fuck jap dubs.
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>>735597570
>Japanese game
>Jap dub
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I remember Dissidia looking better
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>>735596796
Hope it dies soon.
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Still funny that they went with Gaia for XIV
My brother in christ, she's not only a REALLY late game character, but she's also completely optional (I could see them forcing people to do Eden like how they made CT mandatory though). Honestly I'd had gone with Ryne or Sphene for a non Y'Shtola/Zenos rep
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>Think "Maybe this'll be Opera Omnia 2."
>Look inside
>It's some garbage MOBA

Square Enix can't die fast enough.
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>>735596796
Why does Rikku look like Quistis...
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I appreciate it lets you reroll your first draw until you get something you want.
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I just started this and ... it feels really lame.
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>>735596796
>mobile
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>>735596796
post all the hot females
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xhe is autistic
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/ddff/shindan/result/intj/
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>>735598791
Can confirm this but I suspect it might be a limited pool instead of everything at launch BECAUSE THE GAME WON'T STOP TRYING TO GIVE ME RINOA
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>>735599181
The pool is relatively limited (especially the character draw), but for that, I think it's because you can get the other 3 main characters for free? Or it sounded like that.
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>>735598892
>modern clothing
>this shit
they're really trying to make it vibe with the newgen kids huh
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First battle is almost certainly NPCs if I had to guess, they were all using the original costumes except me. The second battle might be real, pretty sure they were mostly using the modern outfits.
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lol they learned from the dumbest thing OO did and put Rikku immediately in.
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I got something called Gift Tickets and I'm not sure what those are used for.
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>>735599904
Still fucking over 14 and Tactics fans though. Time will tell if they spend the next two years drip-feeding Type-0 characters.
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Game seems really shit. When you roll, you should decide what character you want in advance and fish for one of their rare skills. The game doesn't explain its systems very well. At a glance, I suspect Terra is actually busted as fuck though because I can confirm that she can infinitely chain skills with her esper form if you want to line that up on a reroll. Maybe that isn't actually worth as much as I suspect though.

The game has very poor in-game documentation right now.
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>>735598267
it's nomura's fault
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>can finally get in after 24 hours
>okay now you need to download a 2.5gb patch

Cool
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>>735598892
Why is she so smug?
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Sheesh, I feel like when you get behind, you stay behind.
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What the fuck this game is like Exoprimal lllooolll its a race to the boss kill vs another team
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>>735596796
This is a fujo game, you can tell by the costuming and the art style. And how the boys are drawn.
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>>735598892
I have no clue who this is.
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*cricket*
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>>735601139
That is Iroha from Final Fantasy XI
She's a pretty cool character
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>>735596796
>mobileslop
It's a shame because mobile hardware is more than capable enough for a real dissidia game. It isn't like it's 2014 and nobody has a controller. But no, everything literally everything has to shoot for the absolute lowest common denominator at all times. Everything must be slop made for everyone and no-one.
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>>735597570
anon, this game is getting EoS'd in 6 months max, there's no way they'd pay money for the english dub
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>>735596796
>those Rikku puppies
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>>735596796
That looks nothing like my spunky al bhed wife.
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>>735596796
>>735598892
>>735601464
Damn, women are cute.
God cooked hard when he made them.
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I'm playing as Terra and I feel like the bosses just keep leaving my range after I start attacking.
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>>735596796
Dirty al-bhed
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why are they in tokyo
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How big is the game?
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>>735602259
she starts with graviga that torpedos her away from the boss during your chain. you want to use it last
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>>735602396
3.2 GB I think
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>>735602517
too big for a phone game, will NOT be downloading
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>>735602570
That's the minimum normal now. Fucking phone games have reached well over 10GB now, its retarded.
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>open the game
>asked what's your favorite ff
>enter name
>downloading file
>start playing video "remember our old games?????"
Can these fuck do anything but nostalgia bait
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https://dissidia.dev/
Database website is out
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>>735602926
Their Golden Age was in the 90s and their past two decades of output has been chasing that high, it's hard to course-correct for them at this point.
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THIS IS FUCKING CRAZY I THINK WE'RE GONNA WIN

>both teams lose

what the fuck is the goal
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>>735601139
>ff11 waifu is stuck on a phone game
uncbros...................
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europoors, consider yourselves lucky
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Where is she?
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>>735603257
literally who?
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I'm gonna be honest fellow uncs the only real strength of the FF franchise these days is that the old games are pretty well-archived. I can play the important ones on a toaster.
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>>735603257
remember when SE tried to make that chocolatte chick or whatever her name way from ff13 a thing?
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>>735603309
the first FF that was worth a shit was FF10, what do you mean?
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>autoplay button

And we uninstall alright
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>>735598361
>"Hey, those Octopath guys turned their gacha into a real game. Should we do the same with OO? Or maybe just a port of Duodecim that keeps getting asked for?"
>"No. Let's make dogshit that nobody wants instead." - Probably Nomura
SE does it again.
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Played through tutorial fight (which definitely was against bots).
It’s better than I expected desu. Not really a Dissidia, but at least you can run around as Terra/Tina and bombard other players with magic. Feels like a mobile spinoff to NT.
If this ever gets a PC release I’d probably play it semi-often, touchscreen controls are serviceable but a gaympad would be infinitely better.
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Why isn't Iroha in the game yet? I literally only installed it for her. The only FFs I like are XI and Stranger of Paradise.
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>>735597783
Yes, that happens occasionally. Don't be a smart ass.
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should i pick japan as my region in case they shut down the global servers first?
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>>735601139
that's my kouhai
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I feel like Archers just get btfo in combat
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>>735600738
It's like Exorpimal?
BASED
If it was on PC I'd play it.
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why are you guys playing already, you should be rerolling for at least 4 UR's
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>>735596796
>Dead on arrival game has lightly more characters than I expected
well that's neat I guess, didn't expect to see Iroha in CURRENT YEAR outside of her horrible rep in XIV but that's something, maybe they'll get some other cool characters in before the game dies
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>>735598892
>horoscopes for men
Anyway, who're my INTP and ENTP Kings?
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>>735603995
it feels like a even more dumbed down version of Crystalline Conflict from FFXIV, but it's mobile and it's chill so I don't mind.
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how do you play this game

my character would not even attack behemoth
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>No gameplay posted
Another gacha to ignore.
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I put about as many hours into those dissidia games on psp as I did monster hunter so this hurts
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>>735604778
You had to boost your characters to do damage
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Am i supposed to be oneshotting people with my Terra's UR? Feels weird, it has a massive range and if you don't invuln it, you die.
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>>735604832
I don't think anyone would argue that the gameplay is good.
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>>735598267
She's a Nomura waifu
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>>735604774
Now that you mention it, it does feel a bit similar.
>>735604778
Accumulate bravery by purifying crystals or killing enemies.
Pop boost mode when you have enough
Chain all abilities into boss
Rinse repeat
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the gameplay IS good thougheverbeit
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>30 dupes to max out a skill
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I should've made sure to get a UR attack command, I got Trance with Terra and while it's not horrible, I think at the current stats I have, a harder hitting attack would've been more useful.
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>>735605170
I wonder why Square doesn't even try making a live service game that isn't blatantly p2w. Surely they'd be able to maintain a long running game that appeals to casuals and not just whales. Because all of their mobile trash pander to whales and ALL of them keep dying in a year.
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Dissidia game we got is
>gacha
>set in modern day tokyo
>pvp
>pvp gacha
And worst of all
>snubs Y'shtola for Gaia because of Nomura
Did Nomura create anything of value for Square Enix in the past 10 years? Why does this game exist?
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>>735605170
Wait, do you have to pull for skills? Is this instead of pulling for weapons?
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>>735605319
Characters are freeish (very easy to get a character, its more for the skins). Main gacha is skills
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>>735605265
>shitolafag crying
Post your essay
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>>735605319
yeah, skills are basically the weapons of this game. opera omnia was similar where you had to pull a weapon to learn a skill, this game just cuts out the middle man
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For Support Skills, it's pretty easy to check whether or not you'll actually get an increase in stats compared to another. Just try setting it and clicking on the already set skills. A lot of the time, even the skills that are "good" for the character pale in comparison to the rarer skills. Might've been obvious to most, but I didn't think to actually check.
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in the tutorial battle where you pick a character, are you just playing that character for the fight or is that where you choose your first character they give you?
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>5% UR rate
>40 pulls
>0 UR
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>>735605516
The higher the rarity the stronger it is, but it also gets higher and higher cooldown. If you go full UR and unleash all skills, you become useless for 40s.
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>>735598208
Reminder datamined content revealed Tifa was a famous prostitute long before the Don Corneo mission.
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>>735605651
Makes sense, but I was specifically talking about putting skills in the Support Menu, not the active skills.

Also, someone mentioned it being like a MOBA, and that helped. I kept going off on my own and getting killed by the enemy team, which allowed them to get an early lead that they pretty much kept the whole time.
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>spend the entire game ignoring pve enemies and bosses to chase and kill enemy players
>lose the game
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I feel like this game wasn't intended to be a gacha and they were forced by corporate to pivot it part way through development.
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>>735596796
what kind of video game is this
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>>735596796
>stuck on "preparing for initial launch" black screen
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Not available in Australia and I don't care enough to circumvent that
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>>735606205
3v3 moba-esque game
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>>735606221
That happened to me as well, but it ended up going through fine.
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>>735606310
Wow
That sounds miserable
Why does square have so much trouble delivering final fantasy characters in gacha form
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This game is so bad even by the standards of gacha from 10 years ago. I'm baffled at how they managed to make a game this bad. Like the gacha alone is so far below industry standard.
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Those blue gems you get for winning don't even guarantee a Rare skill.
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What should be my main goal in prioritizing here? Just started, got cloud, and am looking to not waste resources on dumb shit.
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does the opening change depending on who you pick? I know it's WoL, Terra, Cloud, and Lightning.
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>enable auto mode

heh.. fuck you teammates!
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so how does controller support work
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this game screams put me on a console, I'm begging you Square!
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>>735606760
your main goal was to be rerolling for at least 4 UR's or the 2 for your main character
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can you not pull terra from the tutorial reroll? I got both of her skills but didn’t pick her from the first four characters
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>>735596796
sex sex SEX
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>>735606938
I'm not even sure non-character URs are even the real chase because of the copies needed to max them out, which is fucking obscene. Like, a UR and the SR for your character might be the actual play within reason since I think low rarity cards will probably outscale URs for stats very quickly.

>>735606990
The four starter characters are all on the battle pass for free. Terra is unfortunately the last one on the pass.
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>>735605265
He created a comfy living room in your head for the price of 0 dollar.
Y'shtola is boring, overused and there are better/more interesting black mages reps.
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>no subtitles when characters talk to you
i want to know what krile is saying
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so why is the warrior of light the defacto leader
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>>735607147
>so why is the warrior of light the defacto leader
you can't be serious mate
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>>735607147
90% of Final Fantasy party members have some kind of chip on their shoulder that prevents them from functioning as human beings. Warrior of Light does not.
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>in game ad

whoa whoa what the fuck
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>all five players emote yoroshiku at the same time

heheh.. what a coincidence..
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>>735607147
He's the oldest
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>>735607196
ff7 and its consequences
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>>735596796
Hell yeah
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>>735607452
actually i've only played ff9 and nothing else
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>gacha
>clash royale chest timer shit (also half of the slots locked behind subscription)
>paid gem shit
>gacha for a fucking move
>battlepass
Holy shit japan, aren't you confident in your product
>
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>>735607527
Lying is a sin, anon.
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>>735606382
After how long? It's been like 20 minutes so far
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>>735607535
No even releases gachas like this anymore. It's baffling that Square is doing it, like they're trying to speed run EOS. I can't even see how this game could be effective as a quick cash grab and dump.
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if you guys aren't still rerolling, you're doing it wrong
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>hit monster in circle
>get number
>number reach 9999
>press button and hit big guy once
>repeat
HOLYYYYY VIDEO GAME DESIGN
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>>735598892
>Rikku
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

who the fuck greenlighted this
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I don't know guy, we can't seem to win anyone over those chink and gook games, what went so horribly wrong?
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>>735596796
whats stopping them from porting duodecim to pc? Music rights?
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I know it's technically a different character but getting Stokoe back as WoL would be hype.
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Can I use controller on this? I read in another thread that it was supposed to have controller support, but I'm too lazy to load the app to check.
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>>735607834
yes you can
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>>735607850
Huh, neat. I might actually mess with it more seriously then, since the HUD in a previous thread looked pretty bloated and seemed like a nightmare to play with touch controls due to the clutter on screen.

I know it's new right now, but any idea how badly the free experience is compared to those that are whaling / dolphining with their cards in comparison?
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>>735607926
no clue, but i saw that they are making the casual mode equalized, as in everyone has the same skill card levels. it's only in ranked where your card levels matter
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>>735607979
That's honestly neat sounding, since I figured they were just going to open the floodgates like Diablo Immortal and other mobile games in the past I'm familiar with where it's obvious the free players are the content for the paying ones.
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Too bad my phone is too old to play this, wanted a giggle over how awful it'll be.
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>>735607578
Not that long.
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>>735598892
She cute
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>>735608109

does an emulator work?
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More like Dissidia Duodenum lol
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>Bronze 1
>won like 3 in a row
>Get set against two Silver 5s and a Silver 4
Our team actually still managed to win, so that's cool.
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>pvp
>with auto button
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Okay I wasn't sure, but it seems like when your Crystal Slots are full, you can't get any rewards at all, not even Season Pass Points. You can get the rank up points, but that's all. I thought they might've just stopped you from getting more crystals.
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>>735605265
>pvp gacha
please tell me this is not true
that's like the most obvious p2w scenario imaginable
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>>735607770
>best design the WoL ever had
>it's just going to be forgotten about
shame
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If you're like me and didn't realize, you can scroll down on the Battle Menu, and there are challenges you can do. Again though, you can't get rewards if your Crystal slots are full.
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>>735596987
In X and X2 they are outside all the time. This version is an Office worker from the looks of it.
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>>735609281
gib ditzy corporate gf
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>Love Dissidia
>Reverse isekai is one of my favorite tropes
>It is wasted in some PvP gacha moba that will die in a year.
This game clearly was someone's monkey paw, isn't it?
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>>735597570
Japanese isn't a dub, it's the original voice (aka best one) you moron. Original voices is always the best choice, and dub is for niggers who failed school.
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>>735605680
No wonder nomura went damage control on that.
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so it's pvp where you can literally buy skills to enhance? literally pay to win...
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>>735609515
>Japanese isn't a dub
How is it not a dub lmao
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>>735596796
Can't wait to see this shit eosing in a few months.
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>umm would you buy this?
>umm would you watch this ads?
Man....
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>>735596796
>rikku
that the girl from the blowjob game?
she's hot
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I didn't realize in the beta but that girl in the blue cat hoodie is actually a boy
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Wait this game is a gacha? We finally get another Dissidia game and it's YET ANOTHER GACHA?
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>>735596796
I played the PSP game with a friend once. Both of thought the game was complete trash.
>every character played the exact same way
>combat was just mashing buttons
>every fight took 10 to 20 minutes because everyone had way too many HP
No thanks.
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>>735605680
>Make a clearly autistic dorky girl who likes punching shit
>vaguely allude to her getting around in cut content
For the best, honestly. A pity they make her look more and more asian with every game/spinoff.
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>>735605680
Not nearly ESL enough to be the original FFVII translation
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>>735596796
>Phone game
Pass
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Dead on arrival.
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>>735610674
Even worse it's a PvP gacha, like it's strictly 3v3 battles. This game is dead in 2 months.
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>whole game is just spam ability until you or enemy die
How does get even worse than NT
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>Do very first roll
>UR Ramza skill
Well I guess I win, no need to play anymore.
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>>735610674
the name Dissidia hasn't been relevant since Duodecim. NT ALMOST revived it but of course SE fucked it up. Then the franchise continues to suffer as f2p garbage.
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>>735610730
>early art
Not early enough, that thing is not anything else but a cheap knockoff from an actual eroge >>735429683 , mixed with some IRL illegal 14yo STUFF(s)
> https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/711964703/#711966165
Nomura jizzed over since 1993(=97-4).
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>>735605680
That's a lie! That lan is liar!
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>>735607770
Gayest shit ever
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>>735611136
I'm not seeing the problem.
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Surely even nips have enough of this humiliation ritual
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>>735611058
>you roll for skills
LMFAO
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>>735611136
You really need to check yourself into a mental asylum. Please don't put the people around you at risk any longer
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>>735598892
Don't remember much about FFX to be fair, but I didn't think Rikku fits the definition of introversion both in common and Jungian terms.
Though I could agree with her coming across as Intuition main and auxiliary Thinking. So in MBTI terms she would be closer to ENTP.
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>regionblock in playstore
thirdworldbros what do?
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>>735611452
Bro... Only eurocake can't play
>Third world
Forget I say anything
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>>735611476
the other day i searched it up and couldnt download it in mexico
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Ever Crisis and Duellum eosing this year.
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>>735611554
TOTALL FF DEATH
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>>735611554
Ever Crisis is next year, 1-2 months after FF7R3 comes out.
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>>735611669
>More rebirth shit
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>>735596796
>SE
EOS soon
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>>735607676
I know right. Sticks out like a sore thumb.
Genuinely fail to see the argument for her being actually an introverted type. And I'm using Jungian definition as reference here, so even by ignoring her outward behavior it would be really difficult to prove Rikku is mainly oriented by the "subjective factor", or inner world, or ultimately the collective unconscious.
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>>735611685
God you sub humans are obnoxious.
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oh yeah, it's gaming time
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I didn't expect this game to be any good but it's so much worse than I expected even. Like goddamn, I just can't wrap my head around how it's possibly so bad.
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So, the game...
Selphie's 80% damage reduction is never going to leave the skillbar. That's incredibly broken, and let's you tank an entire team.
The balancing in this is going to be fucked after a week. I'm already one shotting people, with skills that are 1/10 and killing the boss in two Brave Bursts.
I don't think anyone I've played even understands the game at a fundamental level. This shit will not see a "10 year plan"
More importantly, where are the villains? Where's my boys Jecht and Jack? But you got fuckin' "Gaia" who the fuck is even THAT?
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>>735611076
God fucking damn it fuck SE
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>>735596796
i just don't understand why square keep wasting their time and money churning out these obvious flop in an already ultra competitive gachaslop market, does these japanese company living in another dimension keep pretending popular chink and gook gacha sweeping the market doesn't exist?
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>>735612202
>But you got fuckin' "Gaia" who the fuck is even THAT?
Mall goth chick from a dimension that got apocalypsed in FF14
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>>735612202
hey don't talk bad about my waifu, shes got nice lips
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I sorta regret not going for two URs for my character, but rerolling kills my soul, even when it’s quick
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>>735612202
>UHHHH WHERE IS <character everyone wants>???????
for a groid who talks about ten year plans you sure have absolutely zero idea how staggering character releases in an IP gacha works
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>>735604697
>for men
It was made by a woman for women. Literally the only difference is that its unironically less accurate than actual astrology and its HR approved.
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>>735612335
We already have Lulu! That's enough, Nomura!
>Puts Rikku in a black outfit and says she's introverted
Genuinely, I hope someone punches Nomura straight in the throat. How autistic do you have to be to not understand the characters YOU designed?
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>>735612462
>posts overrated shit
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I want to replay old FFs now.
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>>735612413
Your gacha has to live longer than 6 months to be able to actually get the characters people wanted, you fuckin' inbred monkey.
>Let's put a bunch of B side characters in the game, and release the ones people actually want later
There won't be a "later" for this turd. Unlike you, I was gifted with the ability called Perception. It's a side effect of having an IQ larger than yours.
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>>735612515
Are you still mad your bug game got made fun of? People like you were silent when E33 hit the market. You only cared when it swept the TGA, and whatever metroidvania bug game you wanted to win got laughed at.
You don't even have your own opinions.
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>walk up to enemy player
>cast omnislash and 100 to 0 them in an animation locked attack
lol
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>>735612568
stranger of paradise sold like shit. you are literally asking for a b-side character right now.
the game started with 9 protagonists and prompto. the goal is just to attract normalfags who may have engaged with FF once or twice which is why cloud and lightning are two of the starting characters.
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>>735596796
I thought that was minifilia in the tiny phone thumbnail until I saw the name
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What's with Nomura obsession with Mr.Popo?
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>>735598267
Gaia was probably set before it was clear how much people loved sphene and especially how much they loved meat sphene
Hell it was probably set before dawntrail even came out
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>>735612462
>How autistic do you have to be to not understand the characters YOU designed?
I did this unironically once with some of my own characters and Jung types lol. Sometimes it's hard to tell if what you wrote matches what you wanted to write in retrospect.
You have to be fucking retarded to think Rikku is introverted in any given sense of the word, THOUGH
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>>735598791
Why not just let you choose
I guess people won't get hooked on the act of rolling that way
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>>735598208
Best looking version of Tifa. Fuck ethics committee nufa and the demake.
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>>735612679
Cloud and Lightning are there because Cloud is currently being developed, and Lightning is director waifu, and she's literally just Aya Brea from Parasite Eve.
Do me a favor. Look at Lightning and Aya Brea side by side. It's the same character. They look the exact same.
Also, Jack Motherfucking Garland is not a side character. He is the original villain from Final Fantasy 1, who has been in every Dissidia game. He is the progenitor of Final Fantasy villains. For real, shut the fuck up. Stop being retarded around me.
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Do I win
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>>735612878
>He is there since first ff
He got retcon into it
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>>735612932
that's good but ideally you want to try and get the 2 UR's of your main character
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>>735612932
>playing this subpar piece of trash
You have already lost.
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>>735612878
jack garland did not exist until they retroactively added him to the plot of ff1
i know you're just shitposting and you probably didn't even play stranger of paradise (which you should so you can actually appreciate how stupid and fun jack garland actually is) but normalfags do not know who jack garland is. they know who cloud is. they know who lightning is. jack will be added eventually, but during a lull period where they don't want a headliner character like tidus or whoever else from a game that sold more than 10 units
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>>735612808
I groaned, out loud like an anime character, when I saw what Nomura did to Rikku.
Keep in mind, this has been an ongoing problem with Nomura for years now. He's lost his creativity.
I give him a pass on 15, or Versus 13, because that was supposed to be his baby. Until it got all fucked.
But he's gone down this goth streetwear alternative design path with all of his characters, I fucking hate it. Because it's lazy compared to the otherworldly character designs from something like X. But Nomura has so much history with Square, nobody can tell him to shut the fuck up.
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>plug in controller
>win

how long until they complain that controller players be matched with other controller players, because this just feels unfair
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>>735613069
Later after eos
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>>735613036
You tell me, I hardly ever give a fuck about FF anymore.
Mostly here only because I liked Dissidia gameplay on PSP.
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>>735596796
>no pre-registration rewards
You just know this shit is dead. Probably less than 100k pre-registrations in global-scale release lmao
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>>735610710
Sounds like skill issue. The PSP games were pretty unique fighting games. It has risk & reward system where you need to ramp your damage and then actual deal that damage to the opponent using a HP attack. If you are good you just one shot the opponent. The characters play differently, but you are probably trolling. The NT games (arcade, PS4) and all dissidia stuff after that has been pure garbage however.
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>>735613025
>>735612948
Are you both damaged? Garland as a character has existed since the beginning. Stranger of Paradise evolves his character, giving some backstory about what he did, and explaining what actually happened to Lufenia. Before Stranger, you had no idea why Jack kidnapped Princess Sarah, turns out that's his woman, and he's protecting her.
It's the same character, they just gave him MORE character, and it's the last cool character Square has made.
Meanwhile you have WOL, who isn't even a real fuckin' character lmao
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>>735613115
Brother, most Final Fantasy fans don't give a fuck about Final Fantasy anymore.
But they are masters of pulling at nostalgia though, hoping this shit ain't garbage like it's been for 20 years now.
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>>735613209
>nigga who hasn’t even played original Dissidia pretends to know lore of FF1
lmao indeed.
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>>735613069
I'm like top 15 ATM without controller. It's not terrible, I do wanna use one though. Just need to buy one.
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>>735613209
WoL has been in more games than jack
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>>735613435
Everywhere Garland has been, Jack has been.
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>>735613540
And he has been in less games than WoL
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>>735596796
>another fucking gacha
I admire Takashi's strength.
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>>735596796
>no free outfit switching between modern and the series outfit
>have to gacha for one or the other
Garbage/10

>Graphic degradation is either
>Japanese Adult Porn/0-1
>Cell-shaded but heats your 2-3 year old phone/2-3
>No difference between the three

Also:
>PvPvE

Opera Omnia died for this.

At least they give Riona and the Twink (Prompto) for launch, but not being able to choose which character you want out of the gate (no, I don't want Cloud, Square. I don't give a shit how popular he is. Same for Terra, Warrior of Light, and Lightning [who isn't popular outside of Toryiama who makes her his waifu]) is complete garbage.
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>>735613209
why do you go into threads about games you literally do not play and then talk about them as if you've played them
the worst tourists are FF tourists
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>>735613660
The game is insanely shit but you DO get whatever character you want out of the gate since the reroll takes zero effort. Takes like 5 minutes to fish for the character and outfit you want.
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>>735605680
peak cope

hope you're ready when the final shitmake sinks your aerisxcloud ship
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this """game""" is garbage. I give it a year at most until EoS
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friendly reminder they said "Genshin Impact should have been a Square Enix success story" https://kultur.jp/jacob-navok-on-sqex/
then they proceed to release crap like this
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>>735603342
You mean Fang? The only good part of FF13 (bar Snow and the Shota)?

You should be saying "remember when SE tried to make that chocolate dude or whatever his name way from ff13 a thing?" Because nobody gives a shit about Szah, the literal black dude with a chicken in his 'fro from that series.
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>>735604778
The tutorial LITERALLY explains, did you just smash "next" through all of it?

You gain bravery through killing enemies. Then hit 9999 and then spam your MMO bar, unlike PSP and OO Dissidia.
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>>735614078
Forget the modern era of Korean and Chinese high budget gachas. Duellum not only fails to compete with contemporary Japanese gachas in the mid-range. It doesn't even compete with 2016 gachas.
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You need 6 players to have a match? Do they autofill with bots it not enough are on? How do you communicate with your team?
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>>735613696
>If anyone disagrees with me, they didn't play it.
Explain what doctors diagnosed you with.
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>>735596796
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>>735606404
>Why does square have so much trouble delivering final fantasy characters in gacha form
Opera Omnia was fine? What are you talking about?

I mean it had it's own share of issues (gacha system) but it was clearly more thought out than this attempt and clearly had some devs that loved the series in trying to do a story mode, before they threw in the towel because Square didn't want to support them.
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>>735614175
Unironically, Sazh is the only character I didn't find suffocating.
13 as a game is just
>Emotional growth awakens your powers!
Which is literally shit you would see in Digimon. It's not even clever with it, what you see is what you get.
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>>735601139
>Voice Actor
They hire guys to do women's voices?? Wtf lol
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you can get 5 free summons every day by watching an ad btw, that's pretty decent
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>>735601623
>pic of sheboon
Sometimes he left them too long in the oven.
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>>735614423
Opera Omnia was good. Mobius was good.
Opera Omnia got killed by the "FR Era" and powercreeping became ridiculous to point events became impossible to do, literally. If you did not have the specified FR weapon, you couldn't do the event, and would miss out on multiple weekly awards. Because you were expected to pull and receive multiple FR weapons a week.
Which is fuckin' impossible.
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>>735614545
>forcing you to watch ads in 2026
japs are built different
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>>735610710
Yeah, I don't get peoples fascination with the original PSP Dissidias. Outside of the fan service, the gameplay was garbage as a fighting game (even an animu arena one like Naruto or Dragonball for that era).

I partially blame it on the terrible camera and the system/PSP not being able to manipulate/fix that easily. But even if it could, the whole "brave/HP" gameplay doesn't work there.

Some refinement could've made it good, but everyone wanking it off is just baffling. If it wasn't a cross-over game, it would be forgotten.
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>>735614545
>Free
>Spend what little time you have in this world to watch something you have zero interest in, in the hopes they can convince you to spend your money
You and I have very different ideas of "Free"
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>>735614701
i just put the phone down for like 45 seconds while i browse stuff on my computer, it's not that big of a deal
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>>735612878
>Look at Lightning and Aya Brea side by side. It's the same character. T
No. Lightning is Cloud in a mini-skirt and given a gunblade (literally the name for her sword in 13).
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who was this game made for?
dissia fans hate it because it is a quick cashgrab
ojisans hate it because it's all zoomer bullshit
zoomers hate it because they care not for FF
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>they literally have to give lighting for free knowing no one desiring this bitch
Very funny
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>>735613751
The character gacha didn't let me reroll. The skill/MMO bar one did, bafflingly.

I got the Twink, but I really wanted Rinoa. Not that it matters, since apparently him/her (and Terra, the character I chose out of the initial 4) are all Zoners and Terra deletes enemies as soon as you get 9999 and MMO hotbar spam.
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>>735614806
When you start to consider your time "not that big of a deal" you have already fallen for it.
You don't have self respect, you probably watch YouTube with ads on and eat Taco Bell.
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>>735615152
>He said, posting on 4chan
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>only available in the US and japan
do they want this game to fail or what?
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What’s the best setup for Terra? I’m both not doing enough damage with my big attacks, nor do I think I’m getting much out of Trance.
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>>735615196
4chan, without ads.
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>>735614447
>13 as a game is just
13 in general is "missed potential: the game."

>Gets FF8 world designer who could go nutty with sci-fi-fantasy
>Proceed to do nothing with them outside of the opening hour, a casino DLC, and the final dungeon
Getting off Gran Pulse for the ground planet was fucking stupid.

>Sazh
In general, I never used him. I used Snow/Fang/Vanilla and the Shota.

Damn shame FF13-2 is the only worthwhile entry in the 13 series.

>>735614604
Yeah, that's what I meant by "own share of issues." OO was probably the best mobile Final Fantasy attempt Square made and they proceeded to fuck it up after like 2-3 years.

>>735614625
>>735614701
>tap ad, do something else like eat part of a burger for a minute
>get "reward"
It's not THAT bad, but it's stupid mobile F2P continues to do that trend.
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>>735606280
I'm in aus and I have it
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>>735615152
for me its just a one time 45 second ad every day man, its not like an ad after every battle or something
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>>735615260
>it's stupid mobile F2P continues to do that trend.
literally nobody does only retarded square enix
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>>735598892
What the fuck is myers briggs in this?
And how the fuck is Rikku an INTJ?? Lmao
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>you have to wait for crystal timer to get shit
>you can only store 3 if you are not paying
Perhaps I judge xi too harshly
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>>735615223
I actually think so. Mobius had full English voice acting, and went as far to get the original voice actors from games like X.
Meanwhile, I couldn't hardly describe what this game is. Other than low budget, whale worshipping? Like hopefully some crypto dude who bought bitcoin at 3 cents looks at this game and decides to drop millions on it.
Because this shit is fucking garbage.
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>>735615296
Rainbow 6: Siege (which isn't terrible for a mobile port) does. I fully expect The Division 1 "prequel" mobile port do do the same on Thursday.
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>>735615380
>using ubisoft as an example
the absolute state
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>>735615403
I mean I could go and dig into other mobile games that do, but those are the most recent two off the top of my head.
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>>735615336
maybe upper management saw how shit the game was and didn't want to can it so they released to maybe get some money back
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>>735615426
yeah anon I am sure decent mobile games in 2026, especially gacha, are still using the ad system
Holy shit you are retarded and defending this dogshit cashgrab
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>>735615443
I seriously need an explanation for this game. I'm not even mad that it's bad. I just cannot understand no matter how much I think about it how a game like this was allowed to release in 2026.
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Just get OL Lulu out and pull the plug already
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>>735615296
SEGA has the same thing for Project Sekai.
It's a thing many freemium apps in Japan do (most notably, manga reader apps).
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>>735611136
Jesus christ take your meds schizo
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>>735615486
japanese gacha
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>>735615474
>especially gacha, are still using the ad system
They are.
>Holy shit you are retarded and defending this dogshit cashgrab
The only retard here is (YOU) thinking I'm defending this dogshit by telling you there is numerous mobile games that had ads.

It's part of the reason I barely touch mobile games at this point. You can fully expect a 2 minute ad trailer in them all.
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>>735615531
I play Gakuen Idolm@ster. This shit is a total enigma, even Bamco's tertiery gacha games have more civilization in them. Granblue Fantasy is a decade old at this point and light years ahead in quality despite being an archaic browser game.
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>>735615547
I love playing genshin, wuwa, nikke, star savior, endfield, blue archive and watching ads to restore my stamina
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>>735615310
japanese people love MBTI
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>>735615443
Sunk cost fallacy, for real. I totally agree with you.
Just release it because why not, and hopefully you get a couple pennies back.
Square makes me despise them as a company more every day. You have fans that are decades into your franchise, and they've never listened to anything they've wanted.
People like the old Dissidia games, because it's nice to see these characters you love interact with eachother more. Like Jecht and Tidus, and having dilemmas like Jecht being thrown onto the Evil team, when he's not evil. He was a bit of a shitty father, he's damn far from evil.
And exploring stories like that, that's cool. People recieve that very well
>Naw, fuck that. Let's spend years developing shit from an ass
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>>735614175
Sazh was the best character in 13 though.
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Japanese are out of touch, it's not that deep, just look at YoshiP
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>>735615730
STOP. TRYING. TO. SELL. LIGHTING
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>>735615702
Ironically enough: He's the only one actually backhand "complement"ing it.
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>Im autistic
Thanks Square Enix
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It sucks but I like the art and I can use a game pad so fuck off haters
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>vertical gacha
>controller support
>mobile only
they have no clue what they are doing
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>>735615310
>not even the Squeernix shill can defend it
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>>735615486
Square Enix suffers from "Rock Star Developer" employees. There are a few big name directors/producers who admittedly made Square what it was. FFVII was a huge departure from the previous formula and it was fantastic. VIII being a high school drama was risky but it still kinda worked. The people who were working on that and are still at SE can basically do what they want. Nomura wants Shibuya Fashion Final Fantasy? We are not doing anything with the Dissidia name, lets give him that and outsource it.
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Does it not have an EU release because of their laws on lootboxes..?
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damn everyone is here
>gacha
>paid currency
>battlepass
>subscription
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>>735616319
probably not because it only released in the US and Japan, not even SEA or South America which are usually the markets for gacha
>>735616374
sign of a cashgrab
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>>735616228
The problem is that Nomura is the Kingdom Hearts developer and that made massive money (thanks to the Disney license) so he gets carte blanche to do bullshit that flops (or dick around forever: hello, FF Versus 13/"15"!).

He can be a FANTASTIC character designer: FF7-8, Parasite Eve 1-2 are great.

But when he goes completely up his asshole (the Batman figurine he made, Kingdom Hearts 2-3 "Nobody"/Org 13 or whatever the fuck), he becomes the "belts and zippers goth mommy milkers" dude and then Square puts THAT one in charge of a multimillion dollar game and wonders why that shit (unless it has the Disney I.P. on it) flops.

They need a serious wrangler for him that goes "Nomura-san, design the world and characters and we'll handle the gameplay."
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>>735616479
>(unless it has the Disney I.P. on it)
KH Missing Link and KH Xχ both flopped
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>>735596796
is this like the 6 blond member of the cast?
for a game that takes place in tokyo
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>>735614175
He's talking about Chocolina you fucking retard. Get your autism in check before going on schizo rants holy shit
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>>735616557
I forgot about those. But being fair: Is the Kingdom Hearts fanbase THAT into mobile games in general? Seems like those are console kids primarily.
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>>735596796
Got this.
What did this mean?
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At this point I would be okay with them pulling a Dissidia Genshin. FFS it wouldn't even be that hard.:
>each main character is a leader you can use in the overworld, those are unlocked via story/gameplay
>gacha is for their weapons and for other FF character magicite that will spawn the characters in combat
>world is different FF worlds stitched together, so one zone will be FF one, next will be midgar etc..
>game starts out with WoL from FF1, Cloud from FFVI and the chick from XIV, you can choose your lead the others will come via story
>each leader lets you build a party
>end game content requires you to have several parties of 4

There. This would p-r-i-n-t money to no end. But instead we release a region limited pvp gacha game.
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>>735616479
>"Nomura-san, design the world and characters and we'll handle the gameplay."
They need limitations and work around them. I am firmly convinced these people being able to do whatever they want these days make for worse games.
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is the rat from IX in?
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>>735616628
>nooo my Japanese mobile game is not historically accurate!!!!!!
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>>735616742
You're right but Square will never invest so much money in a single project past FFXIII (fabula nova crystallis)
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>>735616742
OO was the blueprint. They just needed to actually give a shit:

>Turn based
>Story mode and a "versus" mode
>Loves the characters
>Immediately crash it into the ditch with "events" and gacha/P2W systems

They really should just make an offline XDive attempt for OO. It'd be better than whatever the hell they're trying to do here.

There is like 7 years of "content" for OO. Just release an offline version.

>>735616793
That, too. Ever since they became "MUH GRAFIXXX" company during the PSX, they went full send on trying to chase that dragon. It's the George Brossard effect: Make a "cutting edge" game, proceed to spend decades on a sequel (Duke Forever) that should've released after 1-2 years even if it was "mid" because you want to be THE SPECIALIST SPECIAL BOY instead of making a decent/good product after a Great one.
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>>735616557
KHUX was asset reusage: the game, not to mention dev team was like 30 people in total. But yeah, it should've died after the first year because it was the second worst S-E gacha in terms of profits for years - it wasn't even making $100k/month across JP, NA and EU versions. Only reason it didn't EoS for all those years was because of Nomura's name.
But S-E don't give a second chance to failures when they see one, even if it has Nomura's name behind it (see how FFXV and KH3 were rushed after years of Versus dev hell - they wanted to release some form of Versus to cover dev costs and didn't want KH3 to be another Versus), which is why Missing Link didn't even leave Closed Beta Test - GPS-based mobage in 2026 was a retarded idea, not to mention the game still looked cheap and gameplay wasn't fun.
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i just finished the season pass, now wot? it was surprisingly short
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>>735616723
new horoscope for asians
If you're a man, don't bother with it
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>>735616479
Correct me if I'm wrong but the same people who you call wranglers also worked on Versus 13 and they all quit when Nomura was removed as director. They also told Square they would quit if they didn't make Nomura the director of the Disney game back in 1999. If you want to blame someone for Nomura's rockstar status, blame the Tokyo Team. They are responsible for giving him that much power since 7 and 8.
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>>735596796
>square phone "game"
EoS in 3-6 months.
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>>735617519
Correct me if I'm wrong but Square is a Tokyo company. Every team has to be in Tokyo unless there are units working like coronavirus is still a thing. Dumb bitch
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>that pokemon moba is popular, we should do the same
>brilliant but lets give it an unique spin nobody will like and make it unplayable on mobile being the main and only platform
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>>735615486
>Implying standards exist in 2026 for some reason
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>>735596796
Is this DLSS5 Rikku?
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Kain is broken
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>>735617430
>new horoscope for asians
horoscope for nerds*
Even here this dogshit was pretty popular a few years ago
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>>735604697
It was corporate horoscopes which took off when the big push to get women in the workforce happened. Enough time has passed that now corporate women are openly into actual horoscopes.

one of many aspects where society has gone backwards.
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>Play Prompto
>Jump into game
>Enemies group up
>Throw nade to stun them
>Team wipe them
>They res
>They group up again
>Stun them again and wipe
>They res and do it all over again
Bruh it's like moths to a flame
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>gacha moba
not even pokemon was this jewish
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>>735613209
Jack Garland is explicitly a different character from Dissidia Garland though
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>there are "people" ITT shilling this crap
Subhumans
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Can you play with a controller
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>>735618124
yes, i tried touch screen once and switched to controller and it's 10x better
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>>735618124
if you reach a point you are using a controller to play a portrait phone game you should just call the game shit and move on
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>>735618124
It's the only way to play desu. I tried the touch controls for a single fight and it was mega ass.
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Is it just random if you get a gold crystal instead of a blue one for winning?
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>>735617597
>>735617519
>>735617334
>>735616557
QRD on this Nomura and team name shit?
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It is amazing how square is 10 years behind on trends, lmao
they tried making that final fantasy battle royale and it flopped
now they are trying a moba
whats next? ff genshin? ff autochess?
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>>735598267
In case you haven't noticed it's a Nomura game, and every game headed by Nomura shows preference to Nomura characters (see: Kingdom Hearts and the random Setzer in II and how it focuses on VII, VIII, X).
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>>735618094
How small is your dick that you're gonna go out of your way to bitch in a game thread on /v/ of all places that people are playing vidya games? That's some small dick energy if I ever seen it before.
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>>735618367
No no what I meant was the Tokyo Team and their influence on Nomura. I thought the XV team was just under Tabata after Nomura left but I didn't know about a different team. Sorry
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>>735618335
Schizos have been blaming Nomura for every single bad decision Square has made (and there are a lot of them) for the past 15 years.
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i'm actually kind of enjoying this game and i feel sad because it's probably not going to last very long with squenix's history of eos'ing games...
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>>735614175
...what? No, I was talking about the chick wearing the chocobo costume...
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Game is a mess and controls are so dumb. I feel mobiles already figured out how to make action based games but Square still isn't aware
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I know all gachas love timegating, but it feels extra obnoxious here.
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>>735614604
Mobius was so fucking good, it's actually criminal the way it went out
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i got as far as the tutorial telling me to use "growth eggs" before realizing i don't wanna do this and shut it off. this shit is embarrassing.
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>>735615310
it's like the blood type thing anon, for some reason japs really like knowing what completely useless info, they see it like we do for astrology and what someone's star sign is
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>>735618849
Knowing your blood type is useless tho
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>You're a team of Silvers against a team of Bronzes
Feels good
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>>735618338
FF Genshin needed to exist years ago when they were chasing open world games. Now every clone feel it plays better than Genshin and FF still haven't figured out
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>>735616479
they just need to lock him in a lab and keep making him churn out pale, black haired bombshells. He clearly has a gift for it
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when attacking someone or boss tap the screen to attack faster
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No story or "single player" mode? Are story scenes behind battle pass? Who made this shit?
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please tell me pic related is in the game. Either as a player character or something else like the gym teacher or something. If not, I am NOT playing.
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>>735618471
>small dick energy
it's so easy to spot biofems in the wild, this is actually the only "insult" they have
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>>735618993
If only
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Over 30 minute wait time for a match (when you keep winning) if you don't wanna use coins is kinda tough.
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>>735618993
hes not in the game but he will probably be in the game eventually since it's nomura's game
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>>735619034
Using coins doesn't change the queue
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>>735618925
...I know, that's the point if anything it's just barely more useful than your horoscope or something because you might actually need to know someone's blood type if they need an emergency transfusion or something
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>>735618980
There actually is a limited 'single player' mode. Go to the Battle Tab and scroll down, and there are Challenges you can complete. You can get some points for the Battle Pass that way.
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>>735619065
Isn't*
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things are off to a good start I see
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>>735619063
You use coins to remove the seals on the Ability Crystals. I guess I should've specified, you have to use coins if you want to get rewards for doing matches. Because having a full bar of crystals doesn't just lock you from getting more crystals, but the other rewards as well.
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>>735619154
that sounds fucking awful
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Is Nomura trying to kill his company from the inside? sure feels that way
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>>735613209
Jack is not OG Garland. Nomura explicitly stated that SoP is not in the same canon of FF1.
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So, when is this gonna be EoS?

I give it the usual 1 year
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>>735603214
Square really doesn't like Europe is something I've been noticing for a while now
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>>735617932
>play OP character
>win
Such skill, wow. Nothing has changed from the beta.
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What is Terra meant to be doing during games? Graviga lets me wipe Crystals in one-shot, but I don't think she's the only character that can do that. Maybe because my set doesn't have most URs, but I tend to get wiped in 1v1. I guess I'm meant to pick off weakened enemies?
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>>735619534
equip neutral fire spells and spam them. her passive lowers the cooldown on all fire spells
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>>735618335
The Tokyo Team is the original team behind KH1, CoM GBA, KH2, Days, Dissidia and 012, and Versus 13. They were a bunch of younger Square developers who took to Nomura as their mentor during FF7 and 8. They were assigned to work on FF9 but left for KH soon after because they all said to Square management that they would only be managed by Tetsuya Nomura and suits let them turn into his team for the Disney game. They all left or were fired by Tabata when it was clear they wouldn't change anything Nomura wanted in Versus. This gave them legend status among KH fans.

The combat designers they trained (a common Tokyo Team talking point) worked on many Square games after KH2FM. One guy worked on all three 13 games and destroyed his reputation for some mobile game and vanilla KH3, one worked on 11, 14 and Rebirth, another worked on all three 13 games, Dissidia and 012 and 16, one worked on Dissidia and Remake, and the youngest one worked on KH2FM, Versus 13, 15 on the car, KH3 level design, Remake's battle system and eventually Rebirth's level design direction. One battle designer who did the level design for KH2 eventually worked on I am Setsuna and Fate Grand Order. Not every Tokyo dev is also as competent as they seem despite the myths.
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>>735619629
Forgot about that, I saw it then ignored it. Fire Spells being short range feels a bit counterintuitive, but maybe the idea is that you wait for them to come to you while peppering them and then blow them up.



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