Now that the dust has settled, what's the best song in the game? Will the DLC give us new songs?https://tiermaker.com/create/mewgenics-ostcomplete-18963431
>>>/vg/
My Mewgenics journey is complete. Finished helping both the kaijus. Zaratana looks cute on the map.
>>735736070>>735736095This is /v/, the OP should've clearly been this instead
>>735736171You got everything? How was your steak?
>>735735981i dont care. vote for marshmallow porn animation instead, cuz it's losing to pokemon dog.https://twitter.com/yamimayuyu/status/2036774931430826343
HERE TO SAVE THE DAAAAAAAYKING OF THE JUNGLE, OR SO THEY SAYWITH PIERCING EYES AND FLOWING MANEFEARING NO ONE
>>735736774The Rift is final area of Act 2. There's Act 3
>>735736790https://x.com/yamimayuyu/status/2035357538041176066woah, nice
Just did the first benis mission, that device seems busted with the necromancer or cleric if used properly since any currently controlled unit will carry over to the next combat as long as it survives the current one. I wonder if passives that buff familiars synergize with it
*siiiiiiips*Ahhh, yep, Collarless sure is a challenge.
>>735736790I voted for the pokemon just to spite you retarded porn spamming faggots. Might make another account and do it again.
>>735737083do it
>>735736790Voted for Rockruff. Don't even know who that is but I'm sick of cumbrains.
WHY OH WHY DOES HE BLEED US DRYHE GETS AWAY WITH MURDER
this might be my new favorite passive on hunter
when we get real mod support i want to see some mad science shit>throw cats into a gene ripper to turn them into organic paste and "bank" their current mutations in a gene vault>use said paste as a base to print a "clone" of a cat with the mutations you want from the vault>create and save clone loadouts so you can have a certain set of mutations ready to gowith something like this you could easily churn out a "generic" mutation setup for all your cats, or you could hyperspecialize to minmax certain collarsclone printed cats would be infertile and unable to breed...unless you did THAT to them, which would also massively increase the risk of their offspring having cancer and other disorders
>>735737575Really I can't believe that Dr. Beanie doesn't do anything like that, you'd think that the cat eugenics game with the cat scientist would do thatMaybe he did at some point
>>735737575It would be nice if hyper specific shit was more viable. The game is already easy to break by 1 ability 1 passive synergies being bred on all your cats. Going for hyperspecific builds would be more interesting and those builds wouldn't be any more broken than what's already in the game.
>>735736982The Persuasion Device will never come back once used up. Necro has Eternal Servitude that makes dead units rise as zombie and stick from battle to battle. You can even res Bosses with it but you need to have another enemy unit still alive on the field for you to be able to res bosses.
>>735736832Yeah and I'm on another save file, this time helping Zaratana for the achievement. And I maintain she's pretty cute on the map. Too bad she's just drifting in the rift now. I suspect the DLC will fuse Zaratana and Pyrophina into some kind of monstrosity.Act 3's future was a weird dip in quality, determined primarily by mobs that are immune to magic/debuffs or mobs that inflict you with cancer or some such bullshit. Great game though.
>>735737652goddamn, I'll make sure to keep it until I get a cat with the proper passives then. Although Iv'e already noticed that familiars can be more of a liability than anything, especially the ones with area attacks
why isn't the game called meowgenics?it pisses me off!
>>735737880doesn't sound enough like eugenics
>>735737861Aye. All other Beanie's side quest items are repeatable and they pop up in random order. The Persuasion Device is the only not repeating and it's always the first one.There's also a class reward Friendship Bracelet that you get from, what, beating the final boss or clearing all areas with certain class and it works the same and gets added to the item pool once unlocked.I recommend you just using what you want when you want or else you end up putting items to pedestal without daring to actually use them.
>>735737880That sounds terrible.The real biggest mistake is Neceonomicon not being named Nekonomicon
>>735737861>familiars can be more of a liabilityThere are fights where units or abilities you don't have direct control over will absolutely fuck you
What the fuck is up with these layouts in Act 3It's not like any of the enemies have ranges large enough to shoot over the shit either.
>>735738153you will wear ze silly hat
>>735738153More time to build mana, a rare show of generosity from steakmund
>unused item sprites for each cat mini-boss>alice's 'third eye' is a cosmeticSHE'S A PHONYA BIG FAT PHONY
If I use eternal servitude on Lord Bunga, does he eat my cats if he's near them or not?
>>735738410He eats units adjancent to him. Your cats are units.
>>735738410He does not.He will eat the baby on every stage though. Also watch out for wide swings.
Is consistent wording too much to ask? (rhetorical)
>>735738410I would rather bring both spearchuckersTwo units with ranged stuns would surely make life easier
this guy could delete the whole enemy team in his very first turn
>>735738637can confirm, they can skip the shield throw if they stun the creator at the right timeTheir multihit attack is also pretty strong
>>735738406Shhhh
>>735737371LIES LIES LIES STRAIGHT INTO YOUR EYESONE OF THESE DAYS I'M GONNA HURT HIM HURT HIM HURT HIM
>>735738153That's to reward jump and flying and teleport>Teleport in>Deal damage>Teleport outFeels satisfying to do that
>>735738250>tfw the silly hat gave me the hardest time against DybbukTurns out the property of Flying that makes it so enemies don’t block your movement goes both ways.
kek seeing a random post by the guy who did the mewgenics cover on FA took me back
i hate it
>>735738637Ended up just taking one spearchucker since my Alice killed the guards faster than I could've taken out Bunga.
>>735738002>I recommend you just using what you want when you want or else you end up putting items to pedestal without daring to actually use them.thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind. I've already started hoarding rare items "for the right build" but this way my box is already full of bullshit
What's he gonna do?
>>735738850you did this
>>735738410>>735738482Oh, he doesnt eat your cats after all if you Eternal Servitude him
Just arrived after a long day in the desert. There's a chicken behind her, and...well, look at her. just LOOK....Am...Am I being clucked?
I'm at a point where I really wish that they will make non-repeatable side quests or events repeatable in an update. You can repeat other things like house bosses through Steve so I reallt don't see why other 1 time stuff can't be too. I don't want to have to make another save file because the game didn't tell me certain things were 1 time only.
>>735739252Can't beat the cock
>>735739073oh shit marsh is behind him
>>735739252
>>735739101>The baby also gets Eternal Servitude of getting eaten
>>735739073I always forget that the cats are cat sized. No wonder his gun doesn't do all that much, it's like a BB gun or something
>>735739091this cat isn't even inbred and has two parents with no defects
>>735739313At least she's using protection, I guess...
>>735739252Tarred and FEATHERED.COM
>>735739368A tiny little derringer would still put a .38 size hole in someone
>>735739469>He's not built up bullet immunity by being shot by smaller calibersNgmi, I'm afraid
I have Guillotinna 3 coming in 7 days and I haven't completed the 2nd quest yet (the parasite that stops you from leveling). I am having trouble with that actually, I failed my first two attempts at it because the low level cat got killed by bullshit on a boss.Can I beat Guillotinna 3 and just have both quest items? Or is it gonna be a big issue if I don't do the 2nd quest before I kill her? Also any tips for the parasite?
i killed chaos and soahc all in 1 turn and left gun completely unharmed :3
1. Eatin Rats2. Alone in the bunker3. Throbbing King4. Lonesome cat5. LabThese are my favorite boss songs from the game in order.
>>735739571you cant complete quest items in house bosses unless there is one that requires you too
>>735739571Yes, you can do the quests later. Focus on building team for the fight, dont rush the quest
>>735739578if gun didn't get the killing blow you didn't beat the run
>>735739634Alright, I'll just focus on winning some runs to get some decent vets for her fight.
>>735739579>mfw I see marshmallow
benis cat...
>>735740148You think that cat has a brain full of human Stacy?
>>735738406why does lucy wear a bib
>local mad scientist upset over dead cat, nukes GodToxoplasmosis is a hell of a drug
bitches love my rocket launchers
Do you give your cats a class that aligns with their strengths or that balances out their weaknesses?
My first run with the Friendship Bracelet and, yeah, this is an insane item.However, I still FUCKING HATE SPEWER SO MUCH, HOLY SHIT. THIS IS THE UNFUNNEST BOSS IN THE WHOLE GAME BAR NONE.
>>735740793You want high INT/CHR/LCK/SPD on all your cats regardless of what collar you give them.STR translates 1 to 1 into damage (unlike dex or int) so it's a good stat to build on, and good to ignore when using ranged classes. CON is a stat where tanks want more CON, and can be ignored if playing a safe ranged class (and low CON can be additionally mitigated with stuff like holy shield)DEX might be the most ignore-able stat. It doesn't translate to damage 1:1 like STR does.
>>735740793Melee classes dont need range but they do need strength for damage and constitution for survival. Hunters dont need strength and they dont get hit so often so they dont need constitute that much but of course it doesn't hurt having constitution. Mages dont need strength nor ranged that much but they do need int and charm to be efficent.I have no idea why you would want to balance weaknesses other than constitution.
>>735741065unless i have sub 7 base spd i always go for luck when i level up. It feels like the most powerful stat
>>735740793both. i.e. you want your necros to have debuff on hit mutations but if it has dogshit strength then who cares
>>735741143Constitution was what I was eyeing. A cat with good ranged or intelligence, but already naturally low constitution. The ranged classes drop con even further. They're frail enough already.And enemies have a nasty habit of massively outranging your cats so you can't really keep the weak ones out of the danger zone.
>>735738406
what is the best version of these items you have gotten?mine is the one that instakills a random enemy at the start of the battle.
Honestly, even when they're on my side, the Mega Mutants piss me off. I appreciate that they are as bullshit with you as they are against you, but they are such an over tuned enemy it's insane. The Lab is easily the worst area of the game.>3 turns a round>Brace when they get hit>Stop brace, smack people around, move and then insta killSpewer: The non boss version. Act 2 is easily the best act because it's all elegant designs. They lost the plot with 3.
>>735742263>rips off leg>smashes it on the ground>carefully puts it back in its placecomedy gold
>>735742263this is why i am not really all that excited for dlc desu senpaithey already ran out of ideas
>>735742263The final boss is pretty good IMO (On normal)Heaven itself isn't great
>>735742490The bosses are consistently well designed, Spewer aside. There's a few unfun interactions but that's to be expected from all the possible variance.
>>735742263Act 2 is EldraineAct 3 is Ikoria + Modern Horizons
>>735742606mother and the dinosaur are stinkers desuthe rest are alright
>>735742753I think they're both neat even if they're very easy for the stage they're at. Good design should trump the need to be difficult. Doing the opposite is exactly how you get shit like the mega mutants.
>>735738383>mana drain modifier enemy
Convince me that this particular flavor of the month is worth it.
>>735743118it has a very specific type of appeal, if it's only FOMO that draws you to it you are probably better off avoiding it
>>735736229>different beliefsPeople don't like the meows that aren't meows, no?What is this about beliefs?
>>735743330steakmund sent voice line requests to literally anyone and everyone, which happened to include political influencer faggots because he thought it would be funnymostly though people were mad about chris chan being in the game after he raped his mom
>>735742179all stats up whenever you cast a 7+ mana spell
>>735743118Do you enjoy gambling with RNG (Think Balatro)? Do you enjoy tactical combat? Do you enjoy a million different small things all interacting together like a Rube Goldberg machine? If so, check it out.
>>735738850Aww he's smiling
>>735743118It has enough content for you to play for a month.
Snake, remember the basics of CQC
Just realized frank is beanies. Frank is beanies immortality contingency. He's just retarded after.
"Made for him", huh?
>>735744847since i got a good chunk of good mutations now i hate this event. This one is not even skippable so i just pray that i fail the check
I pirated this game and realized that it's so good and am considering buying it before the steam sale. What do you guys think?
>>73574505730 bucks for hundreds of hours is so little it's hard to even find reason to discuss it
>>735744847stop fat shaming him jackass
So I just started, is the whole "random character shows up at house" mechanic the same shit as i've seen in a lot of other shit roguelikes? Because it looks like this game is into the breach with a fat layer of RNG on top
>>735745057You're a big boy, you'll figure it out
Show me your ugliest cat
>>735745213you can control the rng by breeding. You will eventually have literal gods of war at level 1 if you put enough effort into the breeding minigame
>>735745213You talking about the stray that shows up at the house each day? Your house's Appearance stat affects the stray's quality
>>735745213not really because you can control how good that random nigga is, get your house appeal up. then you can control how good your own cats are by making 2 elite chads fuck to make a mini-chad
>>735745213And yeah, I'm sure you already figure it out but your cats breed. The effectiveness of the breeding depends on the room's Stimulation stat. The Comfiness stat affects whether the cats are comfy enough to mate. Low Comfiness procs fights.Once you play enough and have more rooms, make one room Fight Room with deliberately low Comfiness so that the cats will fight. Winner of the fight gets stat boost and loser gets injured or dies. You unlock better furniture seller tiers by donating injured cats to the furniture seller kid. When you wipe first time in adventure, you unlock the mystery man who accepts dead cats.Mutation stat raises the chance of cat getting a new mutation in that room.Health stat affects if your cat recovers from injuries. Negative Health can proc Disorders.
>>735745373>>735745435>>735745494>>735745584Thanks for the replies guys, it doesn't look like this is my cup of tea.
>>735745874alright faggot
having a solo run with god stats cat FUCKING MARSHMELLOW appear and instance kill my fighter
>>735740793When you start out it's generally better to go for the latter since your base stats are low enough that any maluses from a collar can severely gimp a cat.Later on once you have more respectable base stats across the board you have more of a buffer to minmax (so you're not doing shit like sending out 2 STR Monks or something).
>>735735981>what's the best song in the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkPcXr5qrTY
What's the best way to amass a shitload of good equipmentI had my first few wipes early into act 3 and I've lost pretty much everything
>>735746368Act 1 and Act 2 all the way to Throbbing Domain/The Rift. Bird Feed help a lot
>>735746368>>735746531And of course Luck.
whys she tatted up
>>735746368https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Storage_LockerYou can also put Repair (one of the Tinker skills) on your kittens. It removes the worn status from all your cat’s equipment so you can hoard shit even more efficiently. Though it’s probably unintentional so it might get fixed at some point
game softlock me because i was doing a solo run because i got the cursed item in the same slot as my side quest item Edmend you piece of shits
>>735746604What side quest requires you to do a solo run?
>>735746368Spam sidequests for equipment locker, run the sidequest. Once you get the reward item, run it with the luckiest cats you have.
>>735746654No am already 100% of the game so i just solo run for challenge + sidequest and then some random event give me a cursed item with block me form equipped the side quest also it gimped my cat attack as a icing on the cake
tink is funny as hell man
does the stim/health of the room that my cats are breeding in affect how likely they are to pass on disorders?
>>735747116Previous threads have cited flat 15% chance; seems about right in my experience
how likely am I to wipe in Act 2 with a full Psychic team?
>bird event makes my druid's own bird stronger and hostilefuck this shit
>>735746583I can fix her
>>735747116https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Breeding
>>735747294Depends on your initial passives and spells. I don't recommend doing same class runs until you have started to breed with actives and passives that can carry
>>735747116
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>>735747580Shitter filter
>>735747580There are anons who struggle against this
>>735747580:D
>>735747440i don't use the w*ki. i want you to tell me. because i trust you
>>735747580Miiiseryyyyy
>>735738624The crown of chaos is a lategame item and you'll already know what level up rerolls are at that point. The chaos controller can be acquired in act 1.
>>735743118It's been over a month.
>>735748103Yeah but also>Superare item hard unlock>It's worse then a Jester hat
>>735748239Hatebros... our buzzword
I'll be honest I really dont know how to consistently do the Man in the Moon fight
>>735748552You either let him eat someone with lots of HP and Mana and make him hit himself while piling damage with everyone elseOr you set up the hands to slap himself with a low damage spammy unit and then damage dump, it's not hard the hands have one turn a round
>>735748552High HP cat goes into the boss' mouth. The cat takes 4-6 damage per boss' turn. The cat gets 10 mana cost special command to make the hands launch at the face dealing damage and removing brace If no high HP cat, launch the hands manually. Hit the hands so they turn. When they face the face, hit them from behind to launch them at the face
>>735747573wait does that mean I can inherit bloodlust and brave to the same cat?Thats amazing
>>735748865pic related
>>73574886515% chance to get Bloodlust from one parent, 15% chance to ger Brave from the other parent. 2% chance to get them both
>>735740925I love that item, I did the same thing but the poor bastard died at hitler. The cleric is good at healing but just couldn't keep him alive
Uh oh... I think I'm gonna spew!
>>735749018I need my pills
>>735748552>>735748693>>735748721Not the same anon but the problem is when he spawns elite anal ayylmaos that completely ruin any previous strat you were using. The fucker sometimes doesn't spawn them and it's the easiest fight ever
>>735742814I feel that, mother is pretty fun and can still kinda fuck you over if you don't bring range or multiple hits/way to move around twice.I can't wait for the DLC to hopefully gives us more range classes. I'm getting tired of feeling like I have to bring hunter for the enemies that are too dangerous to let live up close (most of labs).Dinosaur is also mostly fun if not slightly easy (hard+ giving each of his legs different elite buffs is fucking insane though)
>>735746037I haven't gotten into solo runs really, how fucked is marshmellow? won't it be a nothing burger because charm means fuck all if there's nothing to 'team kill' (She does get crazy holy shields though if you let her)
>>735735981Chaos.
>>735749382doesn't she kidnap the solo cats she charms?
>>735746583I don't want to fix her, I lust for her to be worse if anything
>>735749382She runs away with your cat and you instantly lose
>>735749382she runs away with your solo unit, instant lossand that cat will be with her when you next encounter her
>>735747372I think thats the real stinger, why the hell did my druid crow go through a damn dragon ball evolution in preparation to kick my ass?
>>735735981DLC should reuse some of the radio songs for boss fights.
>>735749382If the charmed cat is the last cat standing, she runs away with it. Next time you fight her, the fight starts with her being accompanied by the charmed cat
>>735749558Fuck that, why wouldn't you want new songs? That would be disappointing as hell.
>>735749495>>735749520holy fuck what a terrible fucking design. that's bullying and rubbing dirt in my eye holy shit
>>735749609You should've simply chewed more
Is Katfight used anywhere beside tutorial and radio?Such a waste of a catchy song
>>735749592SOME of the songsburried king HAVE TO BE in the game
>>735749728Upcoming PvP in the DLC
>>735747580awww he's smiling :)
>>735746037>solo run act 2>doesn't bring his charm immune helmetdeserved
>haven't lost to marshmallow once in 200 hoursdo you guys really just let enemies walk up and hit you without a gameplan
>>735749609What did you expect? If your cat gets brainwashed and goes out of your control, your run is over.Tinfoil hat is a bare fucking necessity for your solo runs
pebbles!!
HUMANICIDE>Chumbucket Kitty>Dirty Mittens>Chaos>So High>Calamine Smoothie>Crazy Days>Lonesome Road>Eatin Rats>Down with the DevilTop 10 is good enough.
>>735749609Enjoy getting KEKED by marshmallow, solofag
Easiest way to complete THE GUN run?
>>735747580>completely shitstomp him with throwaway cats for the antenna quest>lose to fucking Hitler of all thingsGranted the events and some of the maps with faghauser making shit worse really wore my team down and I didn't bring much gear, but it's still kind of embarrassing
>>735742263>act 2 is easily the best act because it's all elegant designsi can't help but agree. but i still stand that crater-moon is very tedious compared to how much of a pushover bunker-core is
>>735750292Never ever with kinetic sparklesI got infinite'd by spewer with that shit
>Antenna quest>3 cats with huddle bred>1 with blacksmith and rocket launcher >rolls fast handsHow dow you like bullshit stacked against you, Edmund?
TWO OF THEM?
>>735745213it's a very-long time investment. i'm 230 hours in and i still have yet to really make the house greatwhat other roguelikes could have the random character?>>735746368i have the opposite problem, i'm always out of space and butch is already at the point where i need to give him time travelling cats
>>735750404Can kinetic sparkle damage be buffed in someway or do you just have to stack them to get the true great damage
Flash Isaac's mom has same voice actor as Marshmallow, Carla Kihlstedt. She also sings Guillotina's songThey changed the mom's voice actor for Isaac Rebirth
>>735750446Can one of them eat the other?
>>735750446Won't they just infinite each other with side shots?
>>735740734You know what they say about cats and hoarders
>>735746604from a reddit thread that was posted a week ago that means you're playing a day 1 pirated copy of it with no patchesthey hotfixed cursed items/parasites replacing quest items
>>735750473Magic weakness I think?Sparkles are good when you can control when they work, and you can just make giga piss builds that are very funny, but kinetic sparkles can fuck right off with all the stuff that reacts when you hit it
>>735743118isaac looks like a linear triple a game in comparison i'll give you that.
>>735750446you should make one eat the other one's ass
>>735747580can a hunter even one-shot this? he feels like he has more brace than the fucking moon man
>>735750446Give 'em the chubs & nubs special.
>Make one bad move >enemy wipes out 3 out of 4 of my cats from practically fully health abusing my cat's counters, counters and bouncing them off of each otherThe AI is so malicious in this game, god damn.
>one cat runs>solo leveling
>>735736070>>735736095What's the difference between a normal /v/ thread and a /v/ thread that should be on /vg/?
>>735750840>not wanting level 23 monstersSolo runs are neat
>>735750876Games they like (i.e. available on consoles) vs. Games they don't like (not on console)
>>735750484YES
>>735750292>picOH GOD SHE'S PEEING
If Steven is still Issac here, the DLC is gonna get so fcuked.
I swear act 3 is coded to counterpick you if you're doing too well. How convenient that my run with thief/tinkerer being the mvps would get a room of enemies with projectile immunity, 3 champions, and those melee stunning fucking robots that aoe you from across the map. That's way too convenient when I've only encountered that room other time (iirc it didn't have 3 fucking champions that countered the best stuff on my team).
>>735751815meds
>>735751636I’m afraid it’ll turn into an arms race with the player. Breeding already lets you create insanely strong kittens even by roguelite standards, so I’m expecting more bullshit down the line
>>735751994This game will infuriate you after 150 hours.
>RNGslop
>>735752116Hello, ritual poster
>>735752116Yes yes, >RNGslop, >>/vg/, Slay the Spire 2 has better numbers, FOTM, etc. Are we done? You can leave now.
>>735752082Hourlet
Do you think Mewgenics being cancelled by Tommy years ago was a blessing in disguise, considering how much the concept was changed over the years?
>>735752242
>>735752348
>>735752202isn't Slay the Spire 2 RNG as well? It's a good time for stochastic chads
My cats are inbred.
>>735752242Eh. I only play on my days off.
>>735752242stop posting your mewgenics hours every week
>>735752610Yeah, the last 6 months in general have been great for RNGchads
>>735752695Your insecurity pleases me
>>735747294>>735747498One cat with Inspire+ giving mana to another with Mind Mend+ which gave turns and mana to the carry that had Power Up, Ping and Cumulative Blast+.The last cat was a Mind Control bot
>>735752870>your insecurity pleases me
>>735753012There's no reason to get upset
this catbot took my fucking hook
>>735752801what else has come out recently?
>>735753129Now your Butcher can have a shotgun
>>735753129BEEP BOOP LOOK AT ME, I'M BUTCHER NOW
>>735753197The past year went quicker than I thought, but: >Starvaders>new Rift Wizard announced>Aethermancer>Demonschool, but that's moreso a puzzle gameThose are a few off the top of my head
Snettim ytrid s'ti, smu-tahw moob moob-a!Nettik taht s'ohw, akalakahs moob-a?
>>735753957sex
>>735753476thanks, I had never even heard about Starvaders and Aethermancer, I might play them when I'm done with Mewgenics
>>735753957Best radio song in the game. Calamine Smoothie is a close second.
them kitty bones
>>735754171(them bones them bones them kitty - bones)
>>735754171them kitty beans
>>735749001yeah makes more sense to run with blood frenzy and put on a tinfoil hat
>>735754127Enjoy--I really enjoyed both and need to go try to finish the content for Starvaders. Aethermancer is EA, btw, but still solid in its current state.
>>735743118the game will take you about a month to 100% and DLC is already being worked on. Given that people still play BoI, I think mewgenics will still be discussed years from now.
This cat showed up at my door, I sent him solo with no gear into Act 1 as a Hunter, and he won.
>>735735981There's gonna be a DLC?That's a bit soon for my taste.
>>735754335There's no release date for the DLC but Edmund has confirmed there be a DLC and it will have 4 new classes and that 3 of them have been heavily speculated by players
>>735754282How did you end a solo run at level 7? Why lie to us? You should be level 19 at least.
>>735754419It leaves a bad taste in my mouth wheb DLC is annouced so soon after a release. Just makes me feel like they rushed out an umcomplete product instead of waiting an extra few months.And given how long the dev time was, why rush it at the last step?
>>735754335They probably want to ride the momentum and keep the people that went full autism on the game engaged, the difficulty mid game is too much and a lot of players aren't even trying to play further so it makes sense they don't want to wait
>>735754518Ok.
>>735754436he probably thinks skipping the other 3 cats' turns still counts as solo
>>735754540I can understand that, but after the last few Isaac updates I'm not getting any DLC for this game.Edmund has a history of ruining his games with way too much bloat.
>>735754675bloat is already in this game doe
>>735754675Isaac Repentance is the best DLC for Isaac. It's harder but fairer. But do tell what you liked about Afterbirth and Afterbirth+ more than Repentance
>>735754736Exactly. I don't want anymore. I'm probabaly not even installing the free updates, I know they said they might release a free DLC.
>>735754518the game was in development for 6 years, and was delayed (original release was intended to be nov 2025), the reason DLC is being worked on now is because the game is a big hit
>>735754518this game doesn't feel rushed. it wasn't even a gridslop game 10 years ago.given that edmund now knows this is a gridslop game, he'd already know how to design DLC around it.he should really add more stuff to the house part of the game. i'd be so up for the furniture boxes to have a chance to give toys your cats can interact with like in sonic adventure 2's chao island when they're in the house (e.g. a katamari yarn ball that rolls around the room and gradually gets more cats stuck on it before all the cats fling around the room when it crashes into a wall)
>>735754808The joke was Bloat, the boss
>>735754518No one who's played Mewgenics would say that the game is incomplete. The game very much is complete and is jammed pack with content.>Just makes me feel like they rushed out an umcomplete product instead of waiting an extra few months.They've been working on the game for 12 years. (Technically less, but even including only the years it was in active development, it's still had an incredibly long development period). Any game dev can tell you that there's always the feeling of wanting to add more or change things but you eventually need to make a cut-off point. If you want to release a game you have to put a stop to it. Everytime new content is added you have to do tons of balancing, bug testing, localization, and so on to add it.If it makes you feel better even though this has been the norm for ages, the DLC ain't coming out anytime soon. We know it's in the works but we'll be lucky if it comes out this year. I think next year is more realistic.
>>735754784It's more fun. That's literally it.I played a lot of the most up to date verisons of Isaac, even did the Lost achivements before he started with Holy Mantle, so it's not a difficulty issue. Isaac is an easy game for me now.But when I played Afterbirth + on a friend's Switch, it was a lot more fun. There felt like there was less bloat and all the items feel stronger.
>>735754784i dont think anyone likes afterbirth/+ more than repentance, the latter was a much needed overhaul
>>735754928Ok, just to make sure, you have played Repentance?
>>735754994Yup, got every unlock. Used to play a lot of it with my brother after work.
>>735754881It's a top tier game but act 3 was so obviously rushed
>>735754910He probably never made it to act 3
How the fuck do I beat this guillotina 2 quest? My cat with the parasite seems to get exclusively aimed by enemies once I make it past the alley. I've had bosses just ignore every one else to double move towards that cat and just smack the fuck out of them.
>>735754910>>735755129I get it.I'm not laughing, but I get it.
>>735755123act 3 isn't rush it's just bullshit, the same way 2000s games tended to have lategames that are obnoxious compared to how the rest of the game is. baldur's gate 3's act 3 is what's rushed.
>>735755123Act 3 is great outside of Lab though.
>>735755123The last area OST being a Danse Macabre jazz cover is the biggest sin. That area should have had the strongest soundtrack, but it all ends on a wet fart. That's not even considering the bullshit balancing and gotcha-tier enemies and rooms
>>735755242>the same way 2000s games tended to have lategames that are obnoxious compared to how the rest of the game isYes. They were rushed. You are describing rushed late game levels that were not worked on as much as they should have been.
>>735755169doesn't guillotina 2 just give putrid leech? you're talking about guillotina 3's item which does make everyone attack the unit wearing it and have a chacne to fear on contact. that kind of item is very obviously for a tank
>>735755169This one? I'd bring an unit with high Constitution and ways to survive. Holy shield negates one instance of all damage. Team mate being Cleric lets you keep HP up. Consumables restore health.
>>735755313That area is just one big reference to The End is Nigh, which used arrangements of classical songs for its soundtrack, Danse Macabre was the theme for the first level.
>>735755274No, Das Future and Ice Age are great. The rest of the act has a ton of problems>sneaking disorders and mutations onto enemies with no indication>literal fuck you rooms where you are guaranteed to get an injury depending on your team comp and CC options>enemy interactions that are half-baked where they just are jump you regardless of it they hate each other or other bullshitIt's just annoying, especially because without bullshit like the above, it's not that hard at all. Act 3 feels underbaked at best and untested at worst. It's not this huge mess, but some design decisions really made me scratch my head whereas act 2 surprises didn't do that.
>>735755313I listened to Danse Macabre and it sounds more of The End and Mother. Have you reached The Infinity and Creator?
>>735755543Oh, that makes sense as I never played that. I mean I guess celebrating your games is fine as an artist, but it still felt underwhelming. Granted, I was always excited to unlock a new chapter.
>>735755631All of those complaints you listed are about Lab. What's giving disorders and mutations other than the rats? What even inflicts injuries other than the mega mutants? The only thing I would really want to improve on is tooltip clarity, but other than that there's no glaring issues.
>>735755694No, and I listen to the ost blind, so I should have specified that I was talking about the end and not Infinite when talking about the last area
>>735742179I got one with Latent Energy (+2 magic damage whenever mana is spent)
POV: you're being executed by firing squad
>>735755169>>735755481Protip: This is a good way to knock out one of the most important collarless runs by tossing this on a collarless cat and just having them avoid damage the entire run.
>>735756408Are the cats supposed to be the squad, or are they just watching?
>Gambit rolling a 1 three times in a rowgit gud faget
Best rng to go with this op shit?
Whats her endgame?
>>735756876Exactly what happened to me yesterday, better luck next time fatty
>>735756625I feel like having a colorless cat live the entire time would be really hard.
>>735756964maybe something that summons weak units to power it up
>>735756997how do you have the little base stats to the side?
Do I go for it? Are there even unlocks/cheevos for this?
>>735756707Watching with anticipation except Marshmallow She's fucking blind
>>735757035It really isn't. As long as you pick a cat with good constitution and speed and give it some items to help shield it, it should be able to handle any problems it might face. Usually it'll be too far away from most enemies to reach anyways, and if anything does get close your cleric should be nearby.The cat holding the quest item isn't able to level up anyways, so it's not like you'll be getting much utility out of them anyways. And the reward for doing it is one of the most important skills in the game to have.
>>735757131It's a Tink upgrade, keep donating to him
>>735757131Donate to Tink. Upgrade Tink to max as soon as you can
>>735757171>except Marshmallow>She's fuckingYeah, and the sky is blue
I am newish to the game, currently in Act 2 but cleaning up Act 1 first. A lot of my cats are having babies with low con and it is kind of infecting my group. Not every cat is like that, but should I just go through and donate all of my cats with low con and focus on sending other cats with high con on?I still only have 2 rooms in my house, so maybe I am just not donating aggressively enough anyways. Every run basically fills me up with food so I don't feel much pressure to send them off and I figured more cat = more good.
>>735756997>I sure hope you cats don't do this
>>735757158The checkmark post-it has symbol for it
>>735757158There's a completion mark for your OCD.
>>735756964anything that lets the cat do multiple weapon attacks. Or shit that doubles weapon damage. Or fighter
>>735757231Yes. Cull your population and donate a lot. Do short Alley runs to get retired cats to donate to Frank the room builder
>>735757231Yeah kittens can only inherit stats from parents, so if everyone has 3 con or whatever, you're only going to be making cats with 3 con. Culling the weaker ones will help prevent them passing it on. Having more stim in your room will help improve the odds of taking the higher stat. Having more appeal will give better incoming strays to work with.
>>735757261>>735757269Oh, there's one for mono class? I thought it was just solo runs. Don't really care then, since solo would take priority over that, I assume.
>>735757496Solo run overrides the mono run
>>735757553Cool, I'll just pass on this then.
>>735756964Isn't this one of the shit ones that caps at 9?
Wait what does the mono-team symbol look like compared to the solo symbol? Does it even override Collarless, where you need to know the mono-type set ups?
>chungus is just a straight bonus, no downsidewhycan't even pass it down reliably at 15%
>>735757859The downside is that your cat is a redditor
>Now I have to wait for another house invasion that hasn't started counting down yet>after waiting for 2 house invasions for quest items>after doing 2 runs with those itemsNo wonder the completion is so low. This is kind of obnoxious as an unlock requirement, but at least the runs are fun, so I don't mind personally, but this feels a bit asinine and unnecessary
>>735757859You have to cope with the fact you have to call your call a chungus
>>735757970Uhhh.... anon.... The invasions are pretty much back to back as long as you're beating them and you have the unlock requirement for the invasion. I heard that if you lose to them they take a long time to come back. Ive never seen more than a 1 day gap from one invasion to the next countdown.
>>735757970Just do runs for other stuff?
>>735757748
>>735754436He won the first chapter. That's what the little crown means. I sent him home so I could feed him to Frank.
>>735758170Some anons don't like to play for fun. There needs to be accomplishment and cheevo and something new needs to be opened up
i believe in the healing power of prayer :)
>>735758291>but at least the runs are fun, so I don't mind personallyCalm down. That doesn't make the requirement any less obnoxious. The game's great but is definitely flawed
Just had a nearly deathless run through hard mode up to caves. Sadly I lost a cleric and infestation made them explode instant so I had to abandon the run. Still, I love thief as a damage dealer. Chakram and coin toss was such a great combo up to that point
>>735760442is peta even relevant anymore?do zoomers know about it?
>>735760518>RelevantNo>Do zoomers know about it?Yest. zoomer
>>735760442based
>>735750292>Question mark tile before Zapphauser>Training dummy event :)T-thanks Edmund
>>735762189>losing to peashies and scorpionshow fucking bad is this guy
Welp, I just lost all motivation to play at 100 hours in.This is the first real roadblock that requires very specific setups which in turn requires grinding very specific abilities you either roll or get passed down.I don't even have any real issues running through any of the Acts with whatever cats and classes, but goddamn every session is just a slog.All I knew when I went in for my first attempt was that he copied a cat each round, but I didn't realize he also gained endless speed, had a 100% diminishing dodge, and moved around the map after every action.Don't feel like even bothering with the game anymore honestly, its just not very fun anymore and sorting through 40+ cats and items after a run is just annoying.Maybe I'll try again if I discover some foolproof strat that doesn't require getting a bunch of lucky ability rolls during several adventures and then hoping breeding works out.
>>735762767Just bait him with your support or a trash cat. He's easy to manipulate especially if you can heal.
>>735762865That's literally what I tried to do, but his other features just prevented me from doing any fucking damage basically and he just wore me down best I tried. Didn't realize he had super dodge.Just not motivated to get everything set up again with the way this game works.
>>735762767you either need literally just 1 of these>soul geyserhe copies your necro, uses this twice and fucking dies>bloodzerkhe copies your fighter, drops to 1 hp, then gets molested and dies instantly>markcompletely shuts down his dodge mechanicliterally just do some alley runs with fighter/hunter/necro til you get it and then you can get an easy free win
>>735762767he's unironically easier than c-800there's several ways to cheese him if you don't want to use your brain btw
>>735763010it's ONE loss, stop being such a little fucking bitchread >>735763013get your chin up, you don't even fucking NEED items for this fight, you just need 1 out of 3 skills and then you can have that cat and 3 random fucking strays tear him apart
>>735762436would
The purpose of the game is to play the game
>>735763059Apparently not since I easily 1 shot C800 with just random good cats>literally just do some alley runs with fighter/hunter/necro til you get it>there's several ways to cheese him >you just need 1 out of 3 skills and then you can have that cat and 3 random fucking strays tear him apartthis is shit game design honestly
>>735762767>Blocks C-1000's pathpfft nothing personell... kid
>>735762575In general terms not very, most players didnt beat the desert. That he has Tinker means he did beat the desert and Bunker.
>>735763090>>735763013You don't even need the skills. They just turn an 8 round fight into a 2-3 round fight instead. And it's ok if a cat or 2 gets destroyed. A win is a win.
>>735763160maisie after i meet her
>>735763186Anon, those aren't the only ways to beat him. For starters, there's way more than just one source of mark. But you could also spam familiars, death's scythe, body slam, anything item or skill that blocks attacks, fear, etc.
>>735763416You're missing the point, the point is if I dont have any of these specific strats for this one fucking boss I have to slog through the game to specifically get this shit its shit
>>735735981I do not care for Crystalline Dreams. It's one of the few songs I don't go out of my way to listen to outside of the game.
>>735763416Forgot that you can waste his dodges with familiars too. Squirrel druid makes his dodge non-existent
>>735763492You really don't just have cats ready to soak up his attacks and have something that hits hard when his defenses open. C-1000 is just a fight you have to approach slower. You don't need specific ANYTHING to beat him. Just use your brain and don't be attached to the bait cats.
>>735763492Anon, it's not like you need to ohko him. Half the stuff in the game works against him, these just help out more. I didn't have any of that stuff, I just ran around to lower his dodge and then hit him, while he copied my cleric who was relatively low damage.
>>735763820Trust me I tried my best with what I sent and it was an impossibility purely due to the stats since I didn't have a good "cheese" strategy going in
>>735763920Post your cats
I won like 10 runs in a row and now I can't beat act 1 anymore. I've lost 5 runs in a row now. I think I bricked my save, all of my cats are horrible and they all have mutations and a boss is coming for me in a few days.
>>735763953There's no point, I don't have bredmaxxed cats with a bunch of inhereted abilities or anythingI just now started getting cats with three 7 stats and at most 3 mutations that don't do jack shitThat has been working just find even in Act 3You would think they are glorified strays
>>735763968The boss can be mollified by just sending a single cat against them. You don’t even have to fight you can just hit Abandon.You can’t brick your save how can you get worse than two random cats
>finally have two cats that each have near 7 stats and could ideally make a perfect kitten>give them the attic>several runs later, attic full of just near perfect catsHoly FUCK I am THIS close to having a full 7s cat and these fuckers just won't put out aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>735764118All of my cats have below average stats. Most of them have like 3 stats are at 4 or below, and lots of them have like 3 con. It makes runs impossible, they die to everything.
>>735764118NTA but losses in this game are EXTREMELY demotivating, especially if you are trying to progress through objectives
>>735763920Then just get new cats, that's the game dude. We're just saying you don't need perfect skills or stats.
>>735764097See that's the thing. I have a +1 holy shield mutation, a single extra attack, and a few stat mutations. Nothing crazy and I went in blind. I just started getting cats with 4+ 7's consistently, so it's not your stats or you not having "cheese..."
>>735764118>You can’t brick your saveTell that to my lost fancy bow.It wasn't even my fault.
>>735764219You need to pipe those 3 cons. That's as bad as low luck and low speed. Not worth whatever benefits the con penalty your cats are carrying may have
>>735764262Sorry I just hate blindly hitting my head against a wall over and over until something works or the grind catches up>>735764283That sounds broken as fuck compared to my "chance to inflict blind, chance to shock attackers, and some random stat" mutations.Wish I could have seen how your first fight went since you probably just lucked out and had a compatible build for the fight and are now in full confirmation bias mode
>>735764219Woof, you may want to farm strays. Breeding cats takes stats randomly* from either parent, so if you get a cat with a single high stat, pair them up to try to pass it on.Breeding is basically trying to pick the best parts from cats that are shit in everything but one or two stats.
>>735763492Alright, but apart from applying marked, familiar-blockading, immobilising, using weak attacks to burn his dodge, backflip or precog, and cheesing with death's scythe or bloodzerk or blood geyser, what have the Romans ever done for us?
>>735764219STOP BREEDING THEMBREED STRAYS WITH AT LEAST 1 SEVEN AND KEEP BREEDING UNTIL EACH STAT IS SEVEN
>>735764694>keep breeding>now everyone is an inbred retardFUCK
>>735763186Damn, you're a whiny scrub bitch
>Just got Deja Vu for the first timeHoly shit what a retarded, crippling, run fucking effect. It was just some random Steven fetus event and it did this. It actually made me lose too.
>>735764867Damn you're a niggerThe worst part about losing to C1000 is now I have zero progression objectives and now I have to just dick around with the worst macromanagement system in a game ever created until he shows up again
A stray cat that screams fuck very loudly came to my house.
>>735764948No complaints allowed sir, the chef does not appreciate that
This could inspire some interesting art...
>>735764785Inbreeding is way, WAY easier to fix than garbage stats.The children of a stray will never be inbred (as long as they’re not banging their own descendants). You can take the most hillbilly retard cat imaginable, pair them up with a stray, and the kittens will be perfectly fine. You’ll probably have to get a few kittens to win the stats gambling but it’s no big deal.
>>735764975it just means you have time to go get the skills you need to cheese the boss
>>735764785You can just throw in a stray to remove the inbred
>>735765172>>735765252Yeah I'm thinking I just need to go scorched earth with all my cats, have like 20 to a room just isn't feasible at this point
>>735764975Runs yield loot and the cats learn soells and passives and mutations you pass on to future generations to make them stronger.But it sounds like plsöqying a video game is a chore for you so pick up an easier hobby like reading books or watching movies and series
>Gamble: your next critical hit deals +100% damage and spawns some coins>Sniper rifle always lands 25-damage crits against bosses>Gamble does not increase the damage but does spawn the coinsExplain this.
>>735764446I get one extra attack on my first turn that doesn't regen, a single attack block that doesn't regen and a 2-3 +2 -1. And that wasn't even on my entire team. If that's "broken" to you then you must be really struggling with this game. This was one of the cats I ended up beating him with. And a psychic with 0 7's. My cats are mid as fuck. I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you're shit and blaming the game for it.
>>735765393You are just too proud to admit this game has some glaring flaws in its gameplay loop
>>735764948Uh anon that is an optional disorder you have full control about. Edmund explicitely said so, remember?
>>735765480Take a break and come back with fresh mind. You burned yourself out and can't handle loss
>>735765465I'm good at the TRPG part of the game, not the terribly designed breeding and house management portion, I'll admit.It's just too overwhelming for me and I don't have any cats that look remotely like that.
>>735765465How many game hours clocked
>>735762767you guys are fighting the robot cats at only 100 hours in? i only just completed the rift at 230
>>735763492>NO I HAVE TO WIN FIRST TIME ON A BLIND FIGHT I JUST HAVE TO WIN I SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO LOSE EVER
>>735765736I guess that's my problemI was too good at the game and went too far before grinding out custom cats and busted items
>>735765664This was around 140 hours and I idle at the house after runs alot, so that number is inflated a bit
>>735764213your hunter has no use for 7 STR and neither does your butcher need 7 DEXyou will far more really want to prioritize inheriting good mutations and abilities and passives. as for stats, you should really just facecheck which cats has the best stats for the classes you waant them to be on
BOLT OF LIGHTNING
>>735737861I made the mistake of getting Mini-Me on a wizard specialized in Frost, the moron was just freezing the wrong units every turn he had so I had to mush him
>>735765454Instakills aren’t affected by any modifiers as far as I can tell.It’s always 25 damage to bosses unless the instakilling item/skill says otherwise.
>>735765854also every cat needs as much CHA (better breeding) and LCK (luck is the most important stat in the game) as possible
I wonder how much danny would seethe if this game wins best soundtrack
>>735765774This game's punishment for losing doesn't really align with the rest of it's gameplay philosophy.It's like it has roguelike punishments for roguelite progression requirements
>want to get all natural 7s>need a room with a fuckton of stimulation>cant fit all my furniture into the small rooms and it feels like a waste to use the attic for two catsthis fucking sucks man
>>735762767You need need a cat that can take some punches and put this baby on her. Then let C-1000 copy it.
>>735765774Yeah. It's just a silly cat game and it's VERY LONG so redoing things just kills the game.
>>735766201>It's like it has roguelike punishments for roguelite progression requirementsthe fuck does this even mean?
best three man team? doing the princess hat thingthinking of running monk/druid/butcher
>>735766467I have run act 2 like a dozen times more than I needed to just because
>>735766089Danny is a seething mess already since Edmund picked Ridiculon instead of him
>>735766748Yeah because you need so many retired cats to progress those cat donations.
>>735766697Druid works well as the princess (if you have ways to offset their shit hp), the bird won’t be able to attack but can still aeroblast.
>>735766812Progressing them was never my goal though. I just wanted to do runs to get loot and abilities for my breeding cats. Game is fun
>>735766935Only 18% of the players even unlocked the act 3.
>haven't wiped at all up until this point>wiped to lord bunga>twiceI don't know how to feel about the literal fucking unga caveman guy being my filter but this shit is a nightmare
>>735767091Okay.
>>735766697>bubble boy after ragequitting bubble boy weeks ago>monk/tank/druid>monk rolls empty mind and a passive that increases his damage whenever he takes damage>armor that generates scraps on hit>super crow with penetrating aeroblast>tank that blocks frontal damageThe game is being really generous this week.
>>735767162How many badges you got for Act 1 and 2? Cause if you got all the badges for all the classes in those acts and your first wipe is to Lord Bunga, that is pretty impressive.
>>735767196If you have fun with repetition then you can have fun with repetition. But unfortunately majority of the players never finished the game because they found it too tedious.
>>735767091And only 30% of players entered the fucking ruins in LaMulana, people get filtered by their own frustrations
>>735767091Have you looked at rates for other games? Most people play stuff for an hour or two and then drop it.
>>735762767I literally don't even know what C-1000 does despite beating it. I just sent a thief with meat cleaver, applied several stacks of boost backstab+ and the cleaver did 600-something damage ending the fight instantly, which was surprising to say the least
>>735765590Just take it slow and do some more runs. It's not like the game isn't fun, so just take it easy. Eventually, and that means sooner rather than later, you'll roll cats that won't struggle. Maybe spend an hour emptying your house and rearranhing your cats
>>735767162Bunga's probably the hardest thing in Act 3 aside from The Future and the final boss on Hard+You need ranged and/or movement abilities to safely attack him. SAVE MANA, don’t use it all on the champs. Good news is you can chunk off half his health before he gets off this throne anyway, if you leave a champion alive.
>>73576739040% beat Milenia in Elden Ring. Optional secret boss 100+ hours into the game. But it's hard to find motivation to keep playing this.
>>735767298I haven't unlocked act 3 past the lab yet but it's because I'm taking my time unlocking things and I feel like there's no real rush. I got 88 hours in the game and I only just now got throbbing kings heart and fed the spicy marble to moon man
>>735767298You mean the first area? Get the fuck outta-->22.8% beat the first bossLmao
>>735767296>but the majority-love it when retards pull this excuse because they have no defense other than to appeal to herd mentality. My guess is that you bought this game for the same reason, "the majority were buying it"
>>735767298That just tells that people bought a game for the name or it was in deep sale and they never bothered to play it.
>>735762767He's definitely a cocksucker. The one home boss I wiped to.If you're not enjoying the runs themselves, it's understandable that you aren't enjoying the game.
>>735767296I haven’t finished the game myself yet and I’m in no rush to do so. It’s the journey, not the destination.Hell, I've started breeding cats for cuteness over mutation maximizing.
>>735767608All I'm arguing for is for the game to be better. It can have replayability without having 100+ hour long story mode. It is a roguelite after all.
ALIEN CRATERFELINE INVADER
>>735767296Completely untrue. People just don't like trpgs that don't hand you wins. People were getting filtered by daddy shark and its massive unfair 27 HP.
>>735767728>It is a roguelite after all.> in this roguelike tactics game from the creators of The Binding of Isaac and The End is Nigh.>roguelikeNah that's entirely on you. Game's a roguelike. Judge it by roguelike standards
>>735767162Can't remember the threshold, but if you leave a weakened champ alive you can hit him and save up mana while he's a sitting duck. When he's up, decide whether to hit him from behind to avoid the counterattack, or purposefully get the counterattack to knock yourself away from him to avoid getting hit on his turn. DO NOT stay next to him unless it's behind him. Be very careful with stuff that repositions him. Ranged will be safe to hit him no matter what. His attacks aren't that dangerous otherwise, it's mostly annoying for giving concussions but at this point you can probably take a few of those without much issue.
>>735735981Lonesome RoadAfraid of the DarkGet in the Cage
>>735754264mewgenics is 100% another forever game from McMillen. Crazy that the man has done it twice now.
>>735767874It's barely a roguelike other than runs being semi-iron man, but even then you still get rezzed as long as the body persists. This is about as far from a roguelike as you can get really. It just has roguelike style skill and item pools (items being a stretch since loot tables are everywhere)
>>735767896>DO NOT stay next to him unless it's behind himPretty sure he’ll instakill units standing behind him too; the bit about him being blind to behind himself is regarding his counters, not that.
>>735743118You can just pirate it.
>>735767838>people just don't like trpgs that don't hand you winsAre we talking about the same game? It's more of a question do I want to spend 2 to 3 hours playing through the same content I did yesterday and the day before that or do I something else with my day. Going to new acts is fun but having to play the same thing over and over again just makes people get bored. Really all they had to do was to make the main story shorter and put more focus onto the difficulties.
>Got 40 5/7 cats and now have to filter them based on mutations>cant pipe them to tracy and frank fast enoughSend help these shameless abominations wont stop fucking their siblings and the inbreeding is getting completely out of control
>>735767874Yeah I am. Almost all roguelikes are short and the replayability comes from... well, playing the game again. But in Mewgenics just the main game alone is incredibly long plus the length of the runs.
>>735768084If you’re getting free wins and want to get the story done with, why aren’t you bulldozing the story?
>>735768027>This is about as far from a roguelike as you can get really>>735766201>It's like it has roguelike punishmentsAnother thing I love about salty losers is how they just cant maintain a consistent narrative
>>735768084I agree with you as I posted these earlier>>735757970>>735759352 , my real argument against your position is that, yes, there are players who got mid to late game and burnt out, but I noticed a far, far higher number of people who gave up at the desert because it wasn't easy to win anymore. The game's repetetiveness only really showed itself after beating Lab the first time
>>735768107Now you start filtering for 7/7sAnd then give them strays so they stop drooling all over the floor.
>>735768259Not the same guy. Keep up. This game is not a roguelike
>>735768214I still have to play every map a dozen of times. Just look at other roguelikes and how they managed to do it.
beepis or feebis? thoughts?
>>735768358>This game is not a roguelike>because I say so>and I know better than the devs that made the game and explicitly listed it as roguelike because I just do Ok. Stay salty
>>735768416beepis always
>>735767507>look at one of the most popular games of the decade, in a more popular genreReally anon? Civ 6 has 20% who won a game on the Standard map. STS has 70% who won a single run. TBOI has 31% who killed Mom.
>>735735981post butthole
>>735768058I'm like 90% sure that's not true, I've never had a cat get eaten and I regularly leave guys behind him.
>>735768369I am confused both as to what is forcing you to play maps "dozens of times" and what roguelikes you’re playing that don’t shunt you through the exact same sequence of levels every time.Mewgenics letting you pick among many different sets of levels is a breath of fresh air in that regard.
>>735768084>do side quests?run earlier acts with different classes for unlocks?replay earlier acts on higher difficulty (optional, most people don’t even reach this point)>House raidsDoing just these can easily get you 100 hours in the game. I’m not sure what you mean by repetition. Either most people just get filtered or they’re not really fans of roguelikes.
>>735768369>I still have to play every map a dozen of timesYou take the green quest item.to the end and that takes you a dozen runs? Holy skill issue
>>735735981Is there any way to cancel an action once you've already clicked on it? I'm getting tired of dragging my mouse across the entire map just to reorient my cats
>>735768627Esc key should deselect it
>>735768503If anything more popular games are more likely to have players who do not finish the games because there are more people who are buying it just because others bought it. This is a motivation problem and the game fails to motivate the player to continue. Why would someone be interested in running the same map that they just ran yesterday and the day before that, only to find out that the day is over the moment they finish the run? Maybe if this was the endgame, but no, they haven't even finished the game once yet.
>>735768482Yeah, they said it, but it's not a roguelike. It's a TRPG with ironman runs. I've never played a roguelike that let me set my full gear loadout before even starting because real roguelikes start you practically naked with unlocks being added to the random pool rather than just letting you use them right at the start of a run. Multiple times at that. Stop being a baby.
>>735768626You can't finish an act in one go. You have to go home every new "biome". And then there's quests that tell you to redo it all. I think the shard makes you redo it all twice because you can use it only once per battle. And then you have the cat donation system which most players would like to engage with because otherwise you have so little inventory slots and space.
FINALLY!After 130 hours of play, I got my first All 7 cat, The Inbred Dynasty starts now!
>>735767162kill one champion, get the other to low ish hp, get bunga to 150 hphe either spawns when both are dead or he is at half hpa half hp bunga is very easy to kill with a few backstabs
>>735767646Exactly, going by percentages when a lot of players are just hoarders is a bit silly, I bet you most people bought the game not knowing it was even a tactics game
>>735768724>I've never played a roguelike that let me set my full gear loadout before even starting because real roguelikes start you practically nakedIgnorant, wrong, and arrogant about it. Now there's a killer combo
>>735764948I got it on an 18 Int cat (Savant Syndrome)
>>735768930You don't get hoarders on a game that is only on -10% discount. But something like CIV goes -95% so it's a whole different story.
>>735735981Bunker or Desert I would say
>>735768714Anon have you never played a roguelike in your life? Look at Hades, it's the same maps every run. Less enemy variety too. According to achievements, 47% of players have ever completed a single run. That's the genre.
>>735769069Yea 50% made it to the last boss. Now how about in Mewgenics? This is exactly what I mean when I say that this game is designed very weird for a roguelike.
What takes priority when you have items that make you always miss and an item that makes you not miss?
>fist of fate is OP and fighter and butcher>flow state is OP on thief>summon apprentice is OP with downed necros and guns>sparkle skills/way of the owl are OP on mage/psychicMonk gets silly when multiclassing, I wish there was a monk skills birth defect
>>735769184Always hit seems to have priority.
>>735766809Fatty B refuses to work with Steakmund, not the other way around.
>>735768854>You can't finish an act in one go. You have to go home every new "biome".The game ends your run halfway through. Just so we're clear.>The quest item tells you to complete a full runAnd this is a problem because? How many full runs have you completed by that point?>And then you have the cat donation system which most players would like to engage with because otherwise you have so little inventory slots and space.Butch takes 15 cats oer upgrade so that's 4 runs, something you can do alongside the story quests. Frank just wants retired cats so you can just finish the alley, go home and hand them off.
>>73576918148% of players have completed the boneyard and caves, what's the issue? Hades is shorter, that's my point. You need to repeat the same runs over and over again, with less options for builds and where you go and what you fight.
i wish it wasnt so cumbersome to start new campaigns>bro just shutter your entire house and start a new lineagelove them too much, i cant
>>735768948>starting a run with no gold or cells is the same as breedmaxxing for dozens of hours and entering fresh runs with a full set of gear and great passives >some do this to guarantee their wins>equates this to starting with nothing and having a few random selections to start a run withDead Cells is hardly a roguelike either, but it at least does the bare minimum to resemble the genre unlike Mewgenics. They are games with roguelike elements. Not roguelikes. Is COD and RPG now?
>>735769275I wish there were more ways to multiclass besides breeding. Most of the time I just pick general-use passives like Item Proxy or the one that gives +77 luck. There are syringes and those ancestral equipment pieces but they’re pretty scarce
>the cat that had the meat cube fucking diedShould I start a new game already?
>>735768724Any mystery dungeon game lets you do that and even the biggest roguelike autists agree that it's a roguelike
>>735769656You’ll get a new cube at the house.
>>735768724Most roguelikes let you pick race/class or create a build or something along those lines. Setting up a party is the equivalent here.
>>735769506The problem is that the game still has new content to offer besides just some difficulty modifiers that Hades and other roguelikes rely on.
>>735769679Mystery dungeon gameplay is practically a transcription of rogue gameplay with the differences being whatever they add to that template mechanically. MD games are roguelikes/roguelite because they play like so many other games in the genre
>>735769904>the problem is that the game has more content to explore and engage with instead of meaningless difficulty modifiers????Are you really so cucked that you would prefer the game to be just Act 1, but with 20 ascension levels?
>>735769514>Dead cells doesnt let you choose a full set of ++ equipment out of FOUR complete sets at the start of your run, all of which can passively boost your stats from the get go>This is completely different from breedmaxxing and startign out with a full set of equipment you have to go on extra runs to save up>Oh and dead cells isnt a roguelike either because I say so! It doesnt count!Imagine talking about a game you've never played because you cant stomach being wrong lol. Go read up recycling tubes, retard. Do your homework next time.
>>735770018Most people are "so cucked" yes. I am just here to relay you the reality you fail to see.
>>735769795There's a difference between choosing a class and specialization vs. Doing that and THEN bringing a rocket launcher, ball pien hammer, and blacksmith straight from the house. You don't HAVE to do stuff like that, but then you're just gimping yourself and avoiding mechanics
>>735770080>it's a roguelike because of [shit you don't unlock until you've won a run]You are terrible at this
>>735770138By that logic, should every game should be CoD and FIFA clones, because most people love those? You don't need to always pander to the lowest common denominator.
>>735770279*just like mewgenics
>>735770279>it's a roguelike because of [shit you don't unlock until you've won a run]Hey, just like equipment, furniture and class skills in mewgenics! Peak retard.
>>735770380Those games have even lower completion rates. Instead let's stay on the topic of roguelikes and try asking yourself if people would liked Slay the Spire more if it was 100 hour long campaign and one run was up to 3 hours on normal speed.
>I bought a game that was very clear about it's replay loop from the start, and now I'm mad it doesn't follow a formula it never promised me to>I refuse to accept the game isn't fun for me and move on, you must concede that this is the game's faultOf you're not having fun do something else?
Post broken items.
>>735770560>one run was up to 3 hours on normal speedWhat the fuck dude. No wonder you're complaining about it, idk why you haven't dropped it.
don't do a fist of faith solo run with this shit, biggest mistake of my life
>>735769275>I wish there was a monk skills birth defectIt's fucking bullshit the monk doesnt have this kind of a multiclassing defect but hunter does. Thieves, butchers, fighters, and monks should not have easy access to marking skills, that is fucking retarded
>>735770552You consider an alley or sewer/junkyard run a full run? Because that's all you need to do. >Find something really powerful? Just go home. Hell, if you have the right items then you can recycle it for the next 6-8 hours!
>>735770698Rubber cement>Hey let's just make all ranged attacks guaranteed aoe!
>>735770560Roguelikes have short runs for a reason.
>>735771146not this game :)
the fact of the matter is that edmund created a brand new genremewgenics-like
>>735771118I had a necro with that plus one of druids passives that gave his attack + 2 area. Combine those 2 with the move that kills a familiar for a bonus attack and a passive that caused the necro's basic attack to spawn leach familiars and it was the most stupid shit I've seem
>>735771262It is certainly a Frankenstein's monster of subgenres
>>735770934Binding of Isaac went from 196 items to 719. I imagine you'll get your yin-yang tail at some point.
>>735770934>just got empty mind for the first time Wew lad, I hope I make it home
>>735771067>you can end a run early and cut your losses if you dont want to risk losing everythingI dont really see what point you're trying to make or what this has to do with you being utterly fucking wrong about roguelikes all this time.
how do solo marks work?do I need to do solo runs all chapters all difficulties?
>>735771450Roguelikes don't let you do that. If you have something strong and lose, tough shit, you just lose. Real roguelikes don't let you "cut your losses". It's ironic that you use the word 'arrogant' when you post
>>735768864>he's not breeding for cuteness AND statsbro...
>>735771770>Roguelikes don't let you do that.Binding of Isaac lets you do that at any time with virtually zero loss, so yes some roguelikes do let you cut your losses.
>>735771980I just got a double-:3 mouth mutation last night, 10% chance to get a bonus attack on attack.Dude was a fight pit graduate too, gotta find a stray for them because their family tree looks like a conspiracy corkboard.
>>735771770>If you have something strong and lose, tough shit, you just lose.Just like in mewgenics! Do tell me what you get to keep from a failed run, you fucking mongoloid>Real roguelikes don't let you "cut your losses".And you cant do that in mewgenics either. Abandoning your run is considered a failed run and you get nothing. You HAVE to beat the area boss to even get the option to go back home.And yes, multiple roguelikes let you voluntarily end a run after hitting a checkpoint and keep some of your loot. Even dead cells lets you do that. The arrogant ignorance is amazing, what was rhe last roguelike you played?
>>735771241>>735770560a full run to the creator on HARD took me like 1-1.5 hours turn the speed up in gamethere are settings for this for a reason
>>735772260New players don't play on faster speed and they still have to stop to read what things do. The whole argument is about people quitting before they finish the game even once, or even get to the halfway point.
>>735772225Rift Wizard 2, Cogmind, and ADOM. Also roguelites like Dungeons of Dream and Blood, Starvaders since last year. You literally don't get it and won't ever get it because how dare someone not agree with you.
>>735772717>New players don't play on faster speed and they still have to stop to read what things do.I've literally played the game on 4x speed since the fucking start. I've been playing on deluxe premium hard mode the entire time. It makes you a better player when you treat every single enemy as an existential threat. The only things I know about enemies are what their tooltips say they can do.
>>735772816>You literally don't get it and won't ever get it because how dare someone not agree with youThat's funny because your tantrum started with you diaagreeing with the gamedev and getting mocked for it. Again, the sheer arrogance lol
>>735772994You literally don't play the genre. You are absolutely arrogant. Good day.
>>735770698>BrokenIt's taped back together it's fine
>>735773051>this desperate to get the last wordAbsolutely bootyblasted
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>>735773214Holy cope
Actually it's a cat lady-like
>>735773214>I have no arguments left, but I have my cute flowchart!Damn, now if only it were designed by someone who actually plays roguelikes
>>735773418>>735773328>immediate seetheMewgenics is a fantastic TRPG, but it's not a roguelike. Sorry guys.
mewgenics is not a roguelike because it's fun even if you aren't severely autistic. QED
>>735773484>still trying to get the last post inIt's steakmund's word against yours so, too bad. But it's okay, you're allowed to be wrong.
Nobody cares either way, you two can go kiss and make up.
>>735773214This is what my cat inheritance trees look like lol
>>735771262meowlike
Mewgenics? Roguelike. Binding of Isaac? Roguelike. Spelunky? You bet it's a roguelike.
Mewgenics is a roguetacticsogremonstertamerxcomlike
