>>736629365new psy op just dropped
I miss Shmup Junkie
>>736629365Has this guy ever cleared anything remotely difficult? Genuine question
>>736629365even if they are, what's the point? not like fps players will play shmups and vice versa
>>736629960It's about sending a message.
>>736629838Did he overdose?
>>736629365A shooter means FPS/TPS. These are called floatsprites.
>>736629960I like both
>>736629365>schmup is a genre where you shootwaow
>>736629879does it matter as long as he has fun? A lot of older games were never really designed to be cleared by the average player. Many are just a product of the arcade design of quarter munchers going to consoles and avoiding rental places allowing you to beat the game in one go
>>736629365I thank God every day that he didn't make me a shmup faggot
>>736633219I highly doubt you do that
>>736629365as much as I like shmups, first person shooters (or third person) are much more popular and varied, and "shooter" is too vague, so it makes sense they'd steal the title for them. Just fucking call it shmup, everyone will know what you're talking about.
>>736633339I highly doubt you've ever had a normal conversion with a woman
Pinballs are also shooters
>>736633418I highly doubt you shut the fuck up.
>>736629879I don't think he ever claimed he was goodHe was always just in it for the love of the game
>>736629879Yes, he conquered Europe as Germany in Hearts of Iron
>>736633550I'm not asking if he's good, I'm asking if he's ever put effort into clearing anything. Like has this guy ever played a shmup you can't 1cc in under 2 hours? I genuinely can't find anything beneath all the clickbait that would lead me to believe he even likes these games.
>>736629365#GenesisAndSNESPortsAreShit
>Pinballs are also shooters
>>736633141>does it matter as long as he has funYeah it does matter if he's churning out sloptube content and perpetuating disinformation like "quarter munching". /v/ has difficulty separating clickbait from the truth and frequently obsesses over ecelebs. Like if you look at his "I RATED EVERY SATURN SHMUP EVER" videos he credit fed through every single game and says a shmup is bad if you have to learn something. It's just odd, it's like he's a literal 10 year old.
>>736636464What a weird thing to fixate on. I think his physical collection is enough to prove he isn't a poser. If he was just doing this for a grift he wouldn't focus on such a niche genre.
>>736637170Anon there's a big difference between hoarding media and playing games. Collecting is not video games. Someone could play shmups for like a week and be more knowledgable than this guy.
>>736637181Did he play the games or not? Average person wants to 'clear' a shmup about as much as they want to transition.
>>736637430>Did he play the games or notNo, as far as I can tell he didn't. But I don't make it my business histrionicly obsess over what ecelebs do so thats why I'm asking, perhaps I'm wrong and just don't see evidence to the contrary.
>>736629365Great channel.
>>736637181>disinformation like "quarter munching"Do you think arcade games are difficult for no reason? Do you think design choices that require you to memorize enemy patterns and level layouts are not predicated on that business model? Yes, it's a term that gets thrown around ignorantly but it also isn't untrue, completely.
>>736637927The arcade business is good. If a game is just made to be credit fed through, then that machine will be dead weight very quickly. Shmups are designed so otaku will keep putting quarters in them for 20 years, it's not "oh I need to extract $2 off this drunk salary man over the course of 20 minutes". That's not a good business, and those aren't the games people like. It's a balance between a game that is difficult to learn, and something that makes you want to keep coming back. That's why these games are so addictive and fun.
>>736638150You're misunderstanding the point. Arcade difficulty and especially the emphasis on routing is part of a design philosophy made to eat quarters. That doesn't mean they can't be beaten with 1 quarter, it only means most players will not be able or willing to do that. (And they have to spend quarters to learn how to get that good in the first place, you retard).
>>736638150>If a game is just made to be credit fed through, then that machine will be dead weight very quickly.This just isn't true. There are a lot of awful games like Chiller and NARC that were popular because of their graphic content and are fondly remembered by gamer dads even though the gameplay is ass and unfair.
>>736638329No, you're not understanding. Quarter munching is a misleading and derogatory term to describe a design philosophy and business environment that enabled the creation of extremely high quality games. Instead of a one and done narrative experience you get an actual video game. That happened because of what arcades were.>>736638352>gamer dadsYeah and those people are subhuman and shouldn't be the authority on what's good or bad. I'd rather listen to the guy that played pink sweets every day for 2 solid years. I'm sure they've got some pretty interesting things to say.
>>736638352Not to mention the amount these anons would have to spend to practice their games without the luxury of emulation and save states.
>>736638579M2 games tell you how many times you played the game, and if I were to pay $0.25 per attempt, I would have spent less than half of what I payed for the game to clear ketsui. You do the math.
>>736638521nta but it's just your opinion that being forced to replay the same part until you git gud at it is high quality.
>>736638521>I'd rather listen to the guy that played pink sweets every day for 2 solid yearsWell he wouldn't be able to give any meaningful feedback on any games from that period other than Pink Sweets. He'd be able to tell you a lot about Pink Sweets, not much more than that.
>>736638721No it's pretty clear it is high quality, and the reason people deep throat early console games is because they are clinging to old arcade design. And the further we proceed into console gens the further games move away from that, and the worse they get. The jump in quality of indies over the past few years is just devs rediscovery arcade design in a modern context.
>>736638742I dunno, this guy seems like an alright fellow all things consideredhttps://youtu.be/YrNB6s6V0wA
>>736638521>No, you're not understandingIncorrect, I understand perfectly. We agree shmups are difficult games, despite that you want to insist that they don't require multiple quarters to clear. How many times do you load state when routing a game? Now imagine you had to put a new quarter in and start from the beginning. You talk a lot about arcade games but you exclusively emulate them.
>>736639116>that they don't require multiple quarters to clear.Where did I say that? I said right from the start that they do, and that this business model is an objective and demonstrable positive. And because the term "quarter muncher" is derogatory and dismissive, it is misleading and retarded. Even the difficulty curve of shmups is built around this concept. Years of trial and error led to the most enticing ways to make people want to put quarters in these machines. And the claim that I emulate them is irrelevant, as if the business model generates games which are fun to emulate, then it is clearly good. Additionally, you are also emulating, and still using the term "quarter muncher" to dismiss them, even though there is no quarters involved. So you're argument is flawed and contradictory.I'm not interested in the opinion of a boomer who spends thousands of dollars on cardboard so he can gawk at sprite art for 20 minutes while continuing every time there is a bullet on screen. That's not someone who knows what they are talking about.
>>736638521>Yeah and those people are subhuman and shouldn't be the authority on what's good or bad. Guess what? Those people and the games they played are what kept arcades running. You don't really seem to have a rebuttal to the fact that poorly designed arcade games made a lot of money.
>>736639402No, those people are why arcades have been replaced by Chuck e cheese and Dave n busters, and why all games are crap now.
>>736629365based shmooper. I'm playing Ginga Force right now and I'm having a blast. Unironically.
>>736639478Lmao, you are literally proving my point here and the myth of noble arcade design is a crock of shit.
>>736639593Every modern game is shallow genuinely exploitative crap, look at what all the previews for gta6 have been. It's exactly the type of gamer dad garbage where there's zero gameplay and it's just shallow mind numbing crap to gawk at, like "here's an iguana made with 1000000000000 polygons to break up the repetitive point of interests where you gun down gang bangers with auto aim over and over, that'll be $90 sir". These people are not doing me any favors, they have killed the video game industry.
Mork thread>>736638806This anon is Mork. Say hi to Mork everyone!
>>736629879Have you cleared getting a job?
>>736639593All of those """mythical""" shmup companies died decades ago or are on life support. The avatarnigger just likes being a contrarian to stir shit, then blames it on everyone else for "having shit taste"
>>736629365I got into the craze where everyone was dumping Shmups on PS4 and it ended as soon as PS5 came along. They remastered a lot of R-type games, I would have liked to see them remaster Pulstar, but there a good chance I will think the original still looks better.
Saying you won't listen to a guy that clearly loves and plays shmups to the point of autistic obsession about the shmup genre (playing and reviewing thousands of games like 0.1% of the population gives a shit about) because he doesn't post insane clears is like saying you shouldn't listen to anyone about fighting games if he isn't a 10 time EVO grand champion. You can be knowledgeable about a topic without being best in the world at participating in it.
>>736640025These are the same shitposters asking everyone about clears and all they have to show for it is shit tier 1-alls.
>>736639745Anon, he committed suicide in 2014.
>>736639954imagine making 4chan of all places think you're insufferable, i'd want to kill myself
>>736640025You definitely should not listen to someone who is bronze tell you what fighting games are good, that would be insane. Max Dood is similiarly retarded, no one should listen to that guy. I've seen him lose to roll in mvc1 on fightcade.
Put Muchi Muchi Pork on Steam, you cowards.
>>736640289You must be fun at parties
>>736640289Get a load of this asshat
>>736640325Stop consuming eceleb slop.
>>73664028995% of players on /v/ are closer in skill to Max than they are to Justin Wong when it comes to fighting games, they should absolutely listen to him.
>>736629365Doom is a shooter. Shmups are trash.
>unless my teacher is Albert Einstein, don't tell me shit about physics!
How many more of these retarded samefag threads do you need?
>>736640374Yes because the best way to stop being bad is to listen to bad players talk about how cvs2 is hecking epic because Ken and Terry do a fist bump
>>736640289>insufferable tranny opinions>pedo trannime pictureyep, checks out kek
>>736629365ayy that's my goat
>>736640456anime genre retard
I've been playing Gunbird and I like it :)
>>736640456Telling the truth sure does trigger people huh
>>736640448wait i need to ask how i play sdoj for the 50000th time
>>736640451this guy thinks if he listens to only the sweatiest content creators he's gonna win evo one dayhe's probably american and also thinks if he licks the boots of "visionaries" like altman and musk he's also gonna be a billionaire someday lmao
Coming from the Epic Battle Fantasy series (amazing classic RPG series btw) I ended up liking Bullet Heaven a lot but I've never seen any shmupper talk about it. Is it because there's traditional animosity between RPGs and Shmups? It's weird to see one solo dev delve into both but to me he did a good job with this one. Though I think his RPGs are better.
>>736640618Shmupfags seethe endlessly about RPGfags and Touhoufags and RPGfags thought they all died like 15 years ago.
>>736640610No, I think if I take advice from people doing cool things I'll also get to do cool things, even if the amount of cool things I am capable of is lesser. And that is absolutely true. Imagine listening to someone just because they have a wall of beat up cardboard behind them and make youtube thumbnails with their mouth gaping open.
>unless Mozart is teaching me the violin, I will never play an instrument
what does it say about me if my favorite shmups are metal slug X and 3
>>736640878kino taste
>>736640878It says that you're bad at identifying what a shmup is, but also that you're based
>>736640867>I can't play music, but I own 47 grand pianos, let me tell you which one is best to absentmindedly pound my fists against to stave off existential dread
>>736640878That's akshully a run and gun, which are like shmups anyway but better
I've been trying out the Cotton Fantasy reboot and whilst it was fun for my first run I kinda don't want to replay it... I've done a couple more runs and it just sorta puts me to sleep. Are you supposed to be playing the game for score or something? Even the other characters don't freshen things up like I'd expect.
>>736640986Yeah that's entirely a scoring game
>>736640957>Someone is either a grandmaster pianist or a caveman too retarded to do anything but pound his fists on the keyboard like a gorillaWhy is /v/ like this
Who are the best Shmup YouTubers? Most of them come across as arseholes like Electric Underground and Aktane. Shmup Junkie comes across genuine but his voice grates on me
>>736640878For me it's Kirby's Adventure
>>736641054Dude I'm just asking for a 1cc. I'm not asking for anyone to be the best player ever. Holy moly. Why would I ask someone to teach me to play piano if they can't even read music? Good grief lol
>>736641108Studio Mudprints had pretty good reviews of a bunch of shmups but then he went insane and left the internet after deleting his channel. IIRC his channel eventually got restored/archived so you can view all his old videos but I don't think he'll be posting anything new any time soon.
>>736641132Kind of like how you're lecturing people about how arcades work when you've never stepped into one?
>>736640878>>736641128based
>>736641132oh goody, the tranimai schizo is here -_-
>>736641108LordBBH and Iconoclast have active channels with hundreds of clears of various games. LordBBH is only arcade games, and he gives a lot of info while playing them. Iconoclast plays anything with some kind of action he can dig into and always leaves detailed reviews in the video description.
>>736641108Jaimers. Shmupfags will never say it because Touhou lives in their heads rent free.
>>736637430Literally rent free
>>736641132kill yourself oniigger
>>736641272Its not 2010. Everyone in this thread LOVES Imperishable Night
>>736641362True
>>7366411084chan keeps eating my post. One more try@LordBBH@weakbosonsdf3935@hey2f640@stm2147@vtf-ino8277@a.sasagami6970@Wes112@kanzakishintarou2580@Shepardus@T3-kamui@ketsui1@humansairyou
Post hidden gems(on steam for me to impulsively buy and never play)
>>736641603Nah fuck off
>>736641603Should I post a picture with my mouth gaping open as I recommend them
>>736641603There's a neat little game called Zero Ranger you probably haven't heard of.
>>736641603>hidden gemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwviRZ1Kjc
>>736641616>>736641625>>736641671>>736641736>/v/ prefers to fling shit about arbitrary definitions and "who deserves to talk about this particular genre" rather than discuss video gamesIn retrospect I shouldn't be surprised
>>736640914>>736640985the vehicle sections and a large portion of the last MS3 level are literally shmups though
>>736641829>give me anything for nothing>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!
>>736641736i love doodoopoopy saydiejew
>>736641882>/v/ is too autistic to understand what a discussion forum is and thinks this is some kind of adversarial interactionwho hurt you
>>736642050How's your search for a hidden gem shmup going? Must be hard to find one without the help you requested from me.
>>736642050go schizopost somewhere else faggot
>>736641362Imperishable Night is the only 00's Touhou that I dislike lol... Its got its moments but I really don't find the game fun to play. I'll take Mountain of Faith, EoSD and especially Perfect Cherry Blossom over it anyday. The Bnnuy is cute at least
>>736641736>First Continue: 22 secondsIf only Sairyou taught him, he would've gotten past 30 seconds.
>>736642103>>736642109meds. NOW
>>736642185What about them? I'm from Moldova.
>>736642225Moldovon these nuts
>>736642239Are they cashews? Unless you're in Moldova it's not worth the trouble anyway, I can purchase my own.
>game lets you create bespoke loadouts, exponentially increasing replay value
>>736642452What the fuck do you think you're doing? You think you can just talk about a video game here? Post your 1CC of that game right now or you're the enemy!
>>736642586Posting a 1cc would be pretty based though
>>736642586
>>736642452For me it's Reduce
>>736642452This looks like an RPG screen where you can select your class.
>>736629365then stop using the filthy yiddish wordslop "schm*ckp" and use only the PROPER word, which is shooters
>>736642452Doesn't look very pure to me. What is all that bullshit.
>>736633354shooters came before fpses
>>736642836>retards when the game has more options than shoot and auto bomb
>>736642973see >>736625000
>>736629365No they fucking aren't, stop putting DOOM and Gradius into the same category you retards, we already have enough confusion with shit like Vampire Survivors and Cuphead
>>736643049How can you pretend to be an authority on shmups and not even recognize Gradius.
>>736643303How can you shitpost about the purity of shmups when there's all that upgrade crap right there.
>>736642973>all of it is terrible and there's clearly an overwhelmingly best choice>the other selections aren't even fun or have any advantages, they're just straight downgrades>There's only 2 ship types, and custom is simply custom and there's too many options to distinguish it on a scoreboard beyond optimal choices
I can't get past the 3rd level of r type delta....
>>736642695KISAMA!!! YOU DARE SULLY OUR PURE GENRE WITH THAT WORD!!!!! DIE!! DIE!! DIE!!!
>>736643520shut the fuck up faggot
>>736629365
>>736643532Mork bros, take him out back and teach this fool a lesson
>>736643617I had money on you saying MorkThanks bro
I respect mork more than shmup junkie ngl
>>736643640this should be on kalshi
>>736643663Why? He thinks Street Fighter 2 on the SNES is the best version of the game. LMAO!!
>>736643706there's no fucking way he said that
Why do shmup autists hate JRPGs anyway?
>>736643730inferiority complex
>>736643107troom is an fps, not a shooter
Hello fellow shmupers!
>>736643730because they use the disgusting yiddish wordslop "schm*ckp" and thus are golem kikeservants and the jew fears the samuraishooterchads love rpgs
>>736643887>discord mod child groomer>dojwl 2-all clearerthey're the same picture
>>736643706Some of the less clickbaity stuff he's done is interesting, like when he broke down the ddp 2-all. I find his interviews kind of stupid, like his moglar interview was just dumb and he didn't know what he was talking about, if was like a 5 year old talking to a metaphysics professor, but at the same time, I remember watching some vid of him clearing ketsui and he said to hang right on the first stage 3 boss pattern for an easy spread, and that shit actually worked 100% of the time and I've never seen anyone else say that, even if the rest of his route wasn't personally helpful. So it just goes to show you any clear has value. I also found his switch 2 review absolutely hilarious. I've only seen like 7 of his videos so take that with a grain of salt, as I could care less about 95% of what he's talking about. And he still has some good clears anyways, I think, just not a super player. I don't know why of all people he's the one that attracts schizos.
>>736644104shut the fuck up oniigger
>>736643730Numbers are too complicated for shmuppers
>>736643730I think it's just some shitty meme from system11, there's really no correlation, it's like comparing a platformer to a management sim.
>>736644139bodied that tranny freak.
>>736644104>like 7 of his videosSweet summer child.
>>736644139I don't know man, there was some video where he had a bunch of players in a twitch chat and he was like going through super plays of ddp and had like 80 tabs open and was talking about why he though ddp was super cool and what made him want to 2-all it. It's so buried under clickbait slop now that I can't find it, but he clearly gave a shit. That's the kind of stuff I like to see. Can't say that about shmup junkie.
