What is the final solution to the cheater epidemic?
Death squads
>>736982239Banning sexual reassignment
she's so cute
>>736982239she fucking cheated
>>736982239Public hanging, not even joking.The same person who cheats in a silly game will grow up and cheat in serious matters.
>>736982239forced breedings
>>736982239there isn't one. the arms race will continue indefinitely.
ban correction
>>736982239A team of humans in charge of seeing how the playerbase cheats and make corresponding countermeasures
>>736982239I hate how everyone associates the MO_FREE generic model with that retarded tranny now
>>736982239When someone is definitively found cheating in an online vs game they should be banned until they pay for the game again.There's no stopping people from cheating in the first place. Losers will find a way, but if someone is insecure enough to pay for cheating software, they're definitely pathetic enough to buy a game twice to keep cheating.
There isn't one. It's too easy to get away with repeatedy in the long term and it will never be taken seriously enough as a problem.
>>736982239Criminalize it severely.
>>736982551Why? Do you have some of emotional attachment to a shitty generic monochrome anime design? You’ll find a new temporary obsession by tomorrow, I promise.
>>736982239Firewall all non-white countries and deport all browns. The only way to eradicate cheaters is if all players voluntarily decide to abstain. Which wont happen so long as Russians, Chinese, Indians, Brazilians etc are allowed to play. Basically cheating is a service problem.
>>736982239Didn't that poor troon fall into depression because everyone was bullying him into submission lmfao
Actually functional report pipelinesDon't give me a retarded button "HE CHEATING" and that's itLet me download the replayFlag 1 to 3 blantant cheating or suspicious act timeframes from the cheater's povAutomatically crop and render those 1-3 short clips and send those clipsIf a human moderator needs too much time to review individual reports, let ME in the community streamline and do the more time consuming partI would happily spend my own free time doing a better/easier to review report when i find cheaters
we already had a solution years ago it's called community servers
>>736982239Real life ID attached to gamer ID and real life laws prohibiting cheating with real world consequences, it is the ONLY way
>>736982239I hope she has a cock
Dedicated servers with proper ban system. Worked back then, woukd work again.
>>736982239I'm not installing spyware rootkits just to buy your modern, soulless gaas slop.If you faggots actually cared about cheaters, you'd use that screeching to force devs to bring back serverbrowsers and self hosting.
Playing on consoleMonthly online fee gets rid of most third world hackers that can make infinite new accounts on PC
>>736982239>clip reached the whole planet and made BF6 shit the bed on launchlmao
>>736982239
>>736982551another vtuber I know used to use it and I can't help but to think of this person every time I see it now
>>736982239Regionlock Russia and China, 90% of cheaters disappear
>>736982239What is the point of making a XXXth thread about this blatantly cheating larper fag? Legit question - I'm curious what compelled you to make it, OP.
>>736983501I am just tired of closet cheaters gaslighting everyone for so long.
>>736982819Congratulations, you just created a system that incentivizes devs to cater to cheaters, their now repeat customers.You will get periodical ban waves, but between those ban waves cheating is effective, unhindered and even encouraged.
>>736983580Most top players in any given game are cheaters. They lie and deny. They can't call out other players for cheating without exposing themselves so everyone pretends they have kovacks or a good gaming chair and thats why they are so good.
>>736983659>a system that incentivizes devs to cater to cheatersSo why not make a game that is specially designed to drawn in crowds of cheaters? Fuck the real players, they can play other games.There's a limit to the amount of cheating that can be done, if a player is cheating in the cheater honeypot then maybe other games would have less cheaters?It's like making a separate olympics that encourages steroid abuse in order to disincentivize using steroids in all-natural competitions.
>>736983230Why is it always VALVe games that seem to get such great modding communities?
>>736983440Improved.
>>736983845>It's like making a separate olympics that encourages steroid abuse in order to disincentivize using steroids in all-natural competitions.ugh... imagine all the norks deadlifting a literal metric ton then keeling over and dying...
>>736983223Nobody but neets have time to do all that in a children's video game.
>>736983845Its called Counter-Strike. It even has 3rd worlder retention mechanics like marketable weapon skins. You're welcome.
>>736982239>>736982379Reminder: It has never been proven that this person cheated. it's just yet another player who does nothing but does fucking aim training all day, going ham in a server to farm clips. You record somebody like that long enough, you get some clips that seem sus. Same shit with all the shroud cheating allegations. All "sus clips" no proof. And this person just fueled the fire more with that annoying "I'm a cute anime catgirl uwu" aesthetic to make people butthurt.
So there was this transgirl on a previous thread that said someone ruined her life now she cheats on videogames to ruin other people's lives, I'm sorry that happened to you but I seriously doubt anyone's day is ruined by finding an online cheater, it's just annoying.
>>736982239>>736983330>tfw this will be the legacy of Battlefield 6what went wrong?>>736983860made by gamers.. for gamers
>>736983309They can't moderate community servers and enforce gay pozzed chat restrictions and various countermeasures to things like """racism"""" and """antisemitism""" so they don't want to ever bring back community servers.
>>736983845>So why not make a game that is specially designed to drawn in crowds of cheaters? literally csgo
>>736983946He cheated and you're blind and retarded if you think otherwise.
>>736983984If gamers were allowed to have a 3rd space to socialize then 6 million jews would die. So we are removing all forms of in game communication. please understand.>>736983946You have to be willfully ignorant or Jewish to deny that he was cheating
>>736983845CSGO and Siege exist. And there's still tons of cheaters in other games. Clearly this idea doesn't work.
>>736982239Cheat harder than them. If you don't cheat, you deserve to lose.
>>736983946>It has never been proven that this person cheated.using a third party tools to gain an advantage other players do not have is by definition cheating. there is an active instance of the program running as indicated by the icon having a grey rectangle on the bottom of it.also why does an aim god pro need a crosshair overlay?
>>736984109Clearly we dont have enough cheater asylums built yet.>>736984170Theres also this route. Put the cheats into the game so everyone automatically has aimbot, wallhacks, etc.
>>736984043You can bind buttons to spin you to your right and left and the game has a minimap that showed the rock guy though. It's not beyond a shadow of a doubt.
gay nigga
>>736983860Because they make mod tools and level builders that are intuitive and easy to learn. They also encourage modders, often helping larger ones out, and even bringing them onboard if their projects are good enough. That's how Team Fortress, Counterstrike, and Day of Defeat all started, good community mods that valve integrated.
Why do they never voice train properly?
>>736982239we've got to the point where pc gaming is so invested with cheaters that lots of people actually think this person is skilled and not obviously aimbotting. Shits got so bad on pc, its always been a problem but with the advent of streaming and people thinking there's actual accolades to be had by being good at games (besides being an actual pro) Its a joke. competitive gaming is a joke.
>>736983860Valve always relied on modders. Even half-life 1 was possible because of quake modders. The fat jew owes everything to pc modding community, the least he could do was stay out of their way.
>>736982335>>736982379>>736983267>SheHe*>>736983970>transgirlMan*
>>736984250>and the game has a minimap that showed the rock guy thoughexcept the snap was to some one who wasn't shown on the minimap. there were 3 people behind that rock. the person who got snapped to first was killed by another friendly before he made it around the rock. you can even see their freshly dead corpse going through the death animation. and let's not forget the 0 frame snap from the player he killed after rounding the rock to the third player, who was actually the one that was lit up on the minimap
I still have no clue what all the drama of this was. was it some tranny was cheating but people defended them because they were trans as they saw it as an attack on them being trans rather than them being a dumb fucking cheater?
>>736984210Anon It's a crosshair overlay. Some people just like it, fuck if I know. I wouldn't call it cheating. You can get the same effect by drawing a line with erasable marker on your monitor. Which people used to do in 1.6 way back in the day, and probably even before that, but I know that's where I first encountered it. Who knows if it's even an actual advantage, games certainly don't ban you for having it, and like the last 3 monitors I bought came with that feature by default. And lets be real: The accusation is that this person is either aimbotting or wallhacking or both. Nobody is saying "Ban Riley for using a crosshair overlay".
>>736984369because being an obvious troon is more advantageous to get gay internet points and faggot support online
>>736984512>I wouldn't call it cheating. You can get the same effect by drawing a line with erasable marker on your monitor.that's still cheating. does it exist within the extents of the game? no? then it's fucking cheating, simple as. what if the game is balanced around some guns not having a visible crosshair until you scope in? having a crosshair overlay or a dot you drew on the center of your physical monitor is cheating because it gives you an advantage other players do not have, and it not supported by the games mechanics. this is inarguable.
>>736984485tranny posted this epic "frags" from the bf6 beta which were extremely suspectthe "aim community" (yes they literally call themselves that) defended xerqueue bf6 release which has actual anti-cheat and his gameplay is completely different and he stopped playing and now plays overwatch
>>736984390infested*
>>736983845Hacker vs Hacker servers already exist in valve games. Half the appeal of cheating is getting a rank you don't deserve or going on a power trip dunking on players better than you. Playing against other cheaters defeats the purpose. When a game is majority cheaters it will just die out.
>>736984632also had multiple banned accounts, was shit on day one of release because the cheat wasn't working / patched / caught, came back on day 3 or something with obvious aimlocking etc. standard cheater behaviour
>>736984645counterpoint: global offensive
>>736984369It's unironically hotter when a boy dresses and acts like a girl, rather than perfectly emulating a girl
>>736983230Reminder that most of modern /v/ has never played on a community server
>>736984626By that logic, me buying a high Hz monitor poorfags can't afford is cheating. Because what do you mean drawing on your monitor is an advantage others don't have? Literally anyone can do it. And way easier than buying a 240Hz monitor and a graphics card that can run the game at that framerate, too. But again: It's besides the point. Even if I grant you that "okay, crosshair overlay is a form of cheating" that was never the question with this streamer. The question was always: Is this streamer using aimbot and or wallhacks. Literally who cares if there's a crosshair overlay involved. Nobody goes: "Did you see that flick to somebody out of nowhere? Must have a crosshair overlay, god damn!"Unrelated: is the capture slow as fucking shit today, or is my Internet doing a third world impression?
>>736984512There's just the fact that any third party software running in the background is a bannable offense in a EA game. That's not to say that the troon didn't also aimbot, but in this particular case, that software alone would have led to a ban.
>>736984473>policing people using preferred pronounsFragile male ego
>>736983230>>736984808best thing about community servers were they became like actual communities, you'd know all the regulars. the good players, the shitters and it was generally friendly with banter. I miss the early 00s css office 24/7 servers.
>AI overwatch system>Community servers>Server side checks>Give clients as little information as possible>3rd party anticheat like FACEIT for rankedThis is a solved problem but cheaters buying new accounts and paid skins are a steady stream of income for AAA studios so they do nothing about it. Most devs cut corners and don't take extra time to add checks to the server code to kick players for the most blatant cheats. For example if a client tells the server they're going 10x faster than normal or have more health than is possible that should be an instakick. Also stuff like enemy positions behind walls should never be sent to the player. They don't need to see them the server can verify the kill after the fact.
>>736982239Killing them
>>736983931>At best would take 15 minutes to look through a replay and timestamp when a player is using cheats>”No one has the time to do that!”
>>736984982You just hate real women because you are a homosexual
one tranny and another fag in their “aim” clan have both been caught cheating and were booted while doing the same retarded flicks and locks. the aimming looks no different.
>>736984843there's also various notepad tabs open with various non BF6 configs, and the icon for another game in their recently used files list did not match the icon of the actual game it was supposed to be, nor one they even had installed. calling an aimbot or wallhack the name of another game is a very common tactic to hide your cheating form quick glances or accidental alt-tabs.and all the clips showing single frame perfect snaps onto targets they literally did not know were there. as in a snap so fucking quick it is literally beyond the capability of human biology to react that quickly because it's faster than the absolute best reaction time ever recorded in history.
>>736984913>that software alone would have led to a ban.Well clearly not, because that's not software that tries to "hide" itself from anti-cheat, and thousands of players are using it. It's one of these things that may technically be against ToS, but is never ever enforced and you are unlikely to catch a ban for it. It's like those states that have laws against unshaven legs or whatever. Yeah technically maybe. But if nobody is enforcing it, who cares?
One of the few good uses for AI is to identify cheaters fairly easily by just having it identify multiple impossible movements like the mouse cursor instantly move crossing the screen with 100% precision, examining latency and reaction time delays, inputs not coming directly from mouse/keyboard, etc. Problem is would be expensive developing a new anti cheat like that as well as some games, like Tarkov making most of their money from the cheaters/hackers. Even in other AAA games its cheaper to say there is no cheater problem and just ban a few batches every month, especially free to play since its easy to avoid IP/hardware bans.God when I played Muraders I remember it took the devs months to fix the "Kill everyone on the map hack."
>>736982239Firewall China. Prohibit matchmaking with anyone whose ping is high enough to potentially be someone circumventing the chink firewall with a VPN.That will make cheating tolerable overnight.
>>736985053I don't hate women tho
>>736984843retarded logicdevs are fine with monitor disparity but 3rd party software is NOT ALLOWED IN ANY CAPACITYso he's a cheaterit's that simple
>>736984808surf my beloved
>>736985098>and thousands of players are using it.thousands of players also use aimbots and wall hacks so I guess using those isn't cheating either by that metric ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>736982239Don't play competitive games. It's retarded. Cheating doesn't matter because they're just videogames, they aren't important. Play them to have fun. If you want to get good at something, do something real.
>>736982239Create an anti-cheat squad that is allowed to use cheats to eliminate only cheaters.
>>736982239to complain about atypical sexual orientations and genders on 4channel.org, of course
>>736985098That's not how TOS works. If they do not enforce it to the letter, the whole thing is as good as toilet paper. 100% guaranteed that if you report someone for using third party software and provide evidence that they are indeed using it, they'll catch a ban for it.
>>736985176What if she uses a marker to paint a crosshair on her screen
>>736984626I don't care reddit negroid. It isn't cheating because I'm bigger and taller and stronger and have a bigger penis than you and I say it isn't. End of.
>>736983230>Bottom rightI miss CoD 4 death run and zombies
>>736985126drawing a dot on the screen is not 3rd party software. some monitors offer an overlay from your monitor hardware settings, no software installation required.
>>736983946he streamed the bf6 beta on day 1, played average, no flicks or snapping to enemies, guns had very noticeable recoilday 2 and onward, high on the leaderboard, flicks to enemies, no recoil
>>736985442Yes, but using a third-party software to add it is using a third-party software.
>>736985189This is the actual correct answer
>>736984808If you tell people that we didnt use to have any problems before with community servers they will just call you a commie bastard Its actually gotten that bad with zoomies, they think that a multiplayer game will die unless it has skill based matchmaking and no public serversIn reality its just so that you dont get to sidestep any microtransaction bullshit with custom server contentsource: SKG threads
>>736983659nta but good, cheaters deserve to be trapped in a quarantine that also deprives them of wealth.
>>736985513Ah. So youre being a nigger. If I use 3rd party software to change my mouse dpi is that still cheating? Dont answer. Because I knoe only retarded nigger babble will come out from you
>>736985513ok but its fine. Overlays are not banned.
>>736985126>what are drivers>what is audio eq
>>736985607It's not cheating per se, but it is a bannable offense according to EA>>736985618ANY third-party software that isn't explicitly allowed by EA is banned.
>>736984808They shouldn't have opinions thenSURE DO LOVE HAVING TO WAIT 10 MINUTES TO POST MODSGuess moe is gonna be the place again real soon.
The only thing I really cared about or noted during this 'controversy' is that the sketchy/scribbly catboy/girl avatar was extremely cute.
>>736983930>>736983845That would be kind of fucking cool thoughI mean, theres already the Special Olympics, why not Darwin Olympics?I want to see the human body being stretched to the absolute limits. >Gene manipulated 8 feet tall, paper thin giganiggers running faster than a cheetahI wanna see some roid monkey crushed by a car he failed to jerk
>>736983860Back then every game had a similar ecosystem.My Dad played old CoD 2 and WaW modded servers that gave you a healthbar and other random cool shit. Warcraft 3 had an immense custom map scene and clan community that birthed an entire fucking genre of competitive gaymen. A game having multiplayer was intrinsically understood to come with a server browser and usually a map editor as well.Valve is just the last company that really holds onto that old ethos.
>>736982239Rape.
>>736985706>this gif
>>736985815>>736983976>>736984293Why did we let developers stop supporting mods bros? We could have prevented this...
If you're okay with cheaters, you're a woman or feminine/failed "male". Getting angry at injustice and seeking to restore the balance is a masculine trait.
>>736984438Bitch he fostered an environment for them to thrive.
>>736985969Tell your dad that you got into an argument over the seriousness of cheating in videogames, and see how important he thinks the issue is.
>>736983309>downloads malware hypervisor tools to pirate games>pearl clutches over anticheatactual retard
>>736985815>My Dad played old CoD 2 and WaW modded serversstop making me feel old
>>736985923>weIt wasn't "us", it was the tasteless brainless normalfags who flooded our hobby.
>>736985843>angry at a literal toddler for trying to use a screen the same way shes used every other screen shes ever seen in her lifeGet help.
>>736985923Micro transactions. You can't sell cosmetics if players can mod them in for free.
>>736983501Obviously it's so posters can say "she" to trigger the ">she" and "that's a man" bots, someone can loudly proclaim that he didn't cheat to trigger responses from people who don't understand they're being trolled, and most of all: to have yet another thread about trannies on /v/ - videogames because the entire site has been allowed to degrade into culture war obsession.
>>736986032I know 40+ years old still seething about cheaters to this day
>>736983946>"I'm a cute anime catgirl uwu"He doesn't even remotely sound cute or feminine, though
>>736986108The saddest thing about this is Valve already proved that theory wrong from the onset, but retarded execs and shareholders still think it's true.
>OP samefagging and crashing out trying to baitgoddamn how starved for attention are trannies these days
cheat once: banned from the internet for a daycheat twice: banned from the internet for a weekcheat thrice: imprisonment for a weekcheat frice: execution by fire
>>736986032If cheating in any competitive. context doesn't enrage you then you're broken inside. Cheating at fucking checkers is still disgusting subhuman behavior. I have never seen someone defend it who doesn't do it.
>>736986032Why would I do that? I'm not arguing, just stating a fact.
>>736985969Justice and goodness is neither feminine nor masculine, it's a balance of the two. Peak masculinity is taking everything for yourself, peak femininity is allowing everything to be lost. The masculine and the feminine principles must be in balance, else you're a chud or a whore.
>>736985923newfags and dumbasses bought horse armor instead.>>736986051I grew up on those games cause of him. I still remember the first time I got through that first part of the Omaha Beach level in MoH Allied Assault. Hug your Dad if you still can.
If someone cheats in a game I like they should be crucified. If someone cheats in a game I don't like it's funny and anyone mad about it can get fucked. Simple as.
>>736982239gay nigga
>>736986278Yeah but women don't want to see the cheater beaten half to death, they want just a monetary punishment. I want to beat them half to death.
>>736986293What are the relations between /cm/ and /y/ like?
>Be Trans and/or some gay nigga>Get accused of cheating in game>GamerGateesque audience demonizes you>Increases your viewership by a metric shitton>Make enough money to stream full time >Live life without a job whilst probably anally masturbating with massive dildo collection for the rest of your lifeThis is kind of a net win, no?
>>736986507Farming controversy is the meta in the modern era, yeah.
the fact trannies are still doing damage control on this a year later says a lot. online they're on the same level as russians chinks and turd worlders
>>736986507>GamerGateesque audience demonizes youHe got a huge audience precisely because the woke crowd started watching Riley to spite the antiwoke chuds and saying that Riley didn't cheat
>>736986564It's called Earned Media and it's mega overpowered.
>>736986049> not playing or buying a game is piracy actuallyok tranny
>>736986507Yeah I'm sure a debauched lifestyle will lead to happiness.protip: it won't and also when you die you will burn in hell
>>736986412brutal civil war gone cold
>>736982239cheaters deserve to die, their simps deserve to die, misleading drama farmer lolcows like cunt jobst should be deplatformed and lose their home before being raped by king kong cheaters
Full hardware ban.Ban their GPU, ban their mobo, ban their CPU.All of it. Make them need to buy an entirely new PC.Especially if it is proven without a doubt that they were using cheats/hacks.Don't tell me they can't. All fucking games have kernel anti-cheat.
>>736986784The kernel anti-cheat is just to have a backdoor into your system, it's not actually there to ban cheaters.
don't be transdon't be obsessed with your image and people's perception of youdon't be obsessed with control let gostop killing yourself over imageyou're not breaking free from an egg shell, you're not stepping out into truth, you're closing yourself into an image that will degrade faster and faster, requiring more and more maintenance as you age and giving yourself chemicals that damage your body's ability to functionand for what? so horny dudes on the internet can treat you like an anime girl? it's so fucking artificial and shallow, you just hate yourself and hate that you were a little boy with bad memories
>>736986507>Make enough money to stream full timeHis last stream had 34 viewers
>>736986847I know, I'm just talking in hopes that they'd actually use it for good, instead of being lenient fags with it.
>>736983440You managed to anti-DEI the DEI.
so where's the porn of this troon
>>736987059No where (I could find) surprisingly. Either commission or AI-Slop it.
>>736985923How? Valve still releases all their shit for modders to make fun games with for free, All the companies that got big in the last 25 years don't want or care about mod support. GTA Online makes like 10mill a week from brown people who only got internet in the last 10 years. A few thousand people can do nothing against all the people who were in Epstein's contact list.
>>736986784You can easily spoof HWIDs and you can't ban individual parts. What are you gonna do ban every single person with a 5090?
>>736986507what's the name of this tranny anyway?
>>736986507This nigga lives in constant misery and cries about it in his discord. He had a meltdown just the other day about medical bills.>>736986682TRVKE
>>736986914instead of correcting a lie OP knows he's telling just call him a faggot, and remind him that trannies deserve to be shat on and bullied because they invited it
>>736982239>>736983440is there porn of this thing? asking for a friend
>>736987272Rileycs
>>736986507>make enough money to stream fulltimelollmaoHe probably made like 10k at most, enough for maybe 6 months of living if you live in squalor. Now he will have to spend the rest of his life chasing the dragon of popularity he once had in his mid 20s, and it will end asking, "do you want fries with that?" That sounds like hell to me.
>>736987234If they can gain pretty much full access to your computer through their kernel anti-cheat, I'm sure they can find a way to catch people from spoofing their hwid
>>736983230The era of community run servers was the best era of online play, and everyone who disagrees in this thread is a 25yo zoomer/alpha baby who never got the chance to experience it. The worst thing you encountered was a power tripping admin, but then you just went to a new server and never saw them again.
that guy cursed that generic free to use vtuber avatar for everyone, kinda funny.bet that artist lost at least a few commissions from it too.i'm not sure why the next ragebait is "he is a successful streamer now" because it's incredibly easy to check that nobody is watching him.
>>736986507>>Make enough money to stream full timesure thing bro
>>736982239Hire GMs again and hardware ban cheaters.
>>736987584people are usually stupid enough to believe something at face value, and if that convinces people not to want to criticize troons then its worth it in their minds
>>736982239>What is the final solution to the cheater epidemic?Total Trans and Chinese Death.Not even joking.
>>736982239banning cheaters in online video games is transphobic
>>736987335>he is also cheating in the finalslmao
>>736983191I'm not even sure he's really a tranny. I think he might be a meta tranny. Trannies are men who pretend to be women, but this guy strikes me as a man who pretends to be a man pretending to be a woman, if only for the sake of getting attention through outrage bait. The distinction is subtle but it exists.>>736983293Wouldn't solve the problem though. You aren't allowed to ban trannies for any reason unless they're sexually harassing people, usually children.
For me it's ninomae ina'nis
>>736988040>man who pretends to be a man pretending to be a womanis this for real? now that i think about it, there's women (real) who pretend to be trannies for extra attention. it's truly bizarre. it's like transploitation or something.
>>736988030clips?
>>736984210>using a third party tools to gain an advantage other players do not have is by definition cheating>crosshair overlaySure, just like going a mile over the speed limit is illegal. Similarly, that's also not what anybody imagines when you say 'criminal' and everybody would roll their eyes at you trying to be a pedantic faggot about it.
>>736983679I still laugh thinking of how a VAC wave a few years ago banned well over a third of the snipers in UGC highlander in tf2. Shit was more deadly than fent
>>736982239Beating is the cure for such disorders. >>736983309
>>736984808I know that's true purely because of rose-tinted their glasses are as if community servers didn't have any problems.
notice how no one who is really good at first-person shooters thinks he cheats
>>736984210If a nigga uses a tool like this you can safely say they will be using any other tools they can find to get an advantage, it's just that shrimple. That, and the obvious cheating in the clips and the insane cope>""""AIM"""" """COMMUNITY"""
>>736988416The neat thing about community servers was that if one had a problem you could leave it and go to a better one.
>>736988420*she
>>736984210this is how low the cope has become kek
>>736987548I miss it man. Community servers for tf2 from initial release all the way up to matchmaking were a beautiful, precious thing. All talk gold rush and getting called a nigger after you backstabbed a fully charged medic was the kind of magic no other game ever carried for me
>>736984293>source SDK>intuitive and easy to learnHaha. Fuck no. Hammer alone would invalidate this entire statement.God forbid you try to do slightly more complex shit like custom textures (which don't work at random) or custom models (which compile incorrectly at random) or custom sounds (which don't load at random) or custom sprites (which use an impressively terrible command line tool to generate sprite sheets) or anything elseI could go on with this shit until the end of time. Nothing works.If I could press a button that kills every single developer of every source engine game ever made I'd do it without even thinking about it
>>736983230Except there were plenty of instances of blatant cheating forcing you to leave because admins were either retarded or not on and another problem would occur where good players would get falsely banned. There's a reason anticheat, invasive ones even, became a thing while dedicated servers were still standard and it's because admins weren't good enough. Of course, nobody on this board cares anymore about the latter problem because it's not an issue for them and probably even a feature given how often newfags whine about other players trying to win.
>>736988446There's absolutely nothing you can do about people using monitors that provide crosshair overlays, using a marker to draw a dot on the screen, or using a software overlay. It's just a crosshair. Just stop being shit at games.
>>736983860source has a real map editor
>>7369846452b2t is pretty popular iirc and it's basically this but for minecraft
>>736988626*dabs on you* Now what, bitch?
>>736988676What now? You'll continue raging over a catgirl who has a distinctly male voice and is good at aiming.
Community servers with mods that actually care. You can actually investigate a few dozen weekly/monthly reports, best you're gonna get in queueslop centralized games is some beep boop retard AI looking at it and no deeper investigation happening until they get reported 10k times (or a streamer reports them, of course!)
>>736984369one of the youtubers I watched started voice training and it sounds really bad
>>736988590>instances of blatant cheating forcing you to leave because admins were either retarded or not onmatchmaking has no admins so the cheaters get away scot free>good players would get falsely bannedThis can happen at any time thanks to how player reports are processed automatically, except you don't even need to be looking like a cheater they can simply mass report you for griefing and you'll get automatically banned no questions asked.>There's a reason anticheat, invasive ones even, became a thingAnd that reason is to cut costs even though it's objectively worse.Here's your (you) underaged faggot.
>>736984369What the other anons said but it's also crabs in a bucket. Troons that pass get harassed by troons that don't. Ironically this is the most woman thing that trannies do.
>>736983309Mila was cool but I didn't understand shit from it.
He absolutely cheated and it's gay as shit that he only got the amount of defense he did because he's a gay man that pretends to be a woman.
>>736988903He is 100% correct you secondary faggot. Shitmins not banning cheaters is why I don't bother with any sort of pvp game anymore. Stop being a nigger who parrots /v/ opinions.
>>736988940most troons these days are just incels who found a new subculture to take part in lets be honest. they have no interest in being female outside of their erp sessions
>>736989059Sure thing buddy I believe you, you're definitely a pro community server player. Have fun hitting the gritty in fortnite okay?
>>736988339Now all we need is that FatMagic fag to finally get his ban and the world will be healed again
>>736983230i swear csgo/cs2 player base numbers is all bots.no one plays or cares about community servers anymore. its weird actually.
>>736989120STEP OFF LARPING FAGGOTThe truth is there is no realistic solution to cheater faggotry, dedicated servers were not some safe havens. They are only good when admins/owners are you or your friends. Cope or rope.
>>736988991He absolutely did not cheat, and only got the amount of hate he did because he used a catgirl avatar and referred to it in the first person.
>>736988339And those were just the ones using cheap/public hacks, so we know damn well the real numbers closer to at least 2/3rds. Death to all sniper mains.There was also that one confessional video by one of the prominent CSGO pros, Shroud I think, talking about how most people in the fps Esports scene use some amount of cheats. He went on about how it's just something you have to do to remain competitive, like olympic athletes using a little bit of drugs and skiiers using a little bit of ass filler.
>>736989292>already banned for cheating in the past>but no he TOTALLY didn't cheat this time trust :)He's just a bitch that used his fake identity to keep himself from getting any flak.
>>736984632compilation vs streambreakfast vs you
>>736989271>there is no realistic solution to cheater faggotryThere is though. It's just not 100% because cheaters who restrict their power level and are "cool" about it are able to fly under the radar even on cool servers. But if they're restricting themselves to only the level of a decent player then what's the problem?Compare this to Matchmaking where cheaters go unpunished entirely and there's nothing you can do about it because bans take 3 weeks to process and they're reliant on quantity instead of janny oversight.
>>736988257>>736988991>Meta liberal for protection from aggressors towards your actions.>Meta Conservative for protection from aggressors about what you say.What about the rest?>Meta Centrist/Apolitical for the above.What about the rest?
>>736989359>making shit up
24/7 Mossad webcam surveillance
>>736988903>matchmaking has no admins so the cheaters get away scot freeWhen they're caught the cheaters get perma banned from the entire game and they don't have to be so blatant that even a shitter admin can see it. I don't understand how people on a board that regularly cries about how useless jannies are can turn around and start fellating the average community server admin like people here do.>This can happen at any time thanks to how player reports are processed automaticallyNever been banned from a game with MM. I have been banned from multiple dedicated servers for 'cheating'. If your concern is a horde of players reporting you then I don't know what you think would be different on a community server. You retards always seem to think of them as some lawless wasteland like some faggot you'd get queued with in a game with MM doesn't have the right to ban you if you're annoying everybody. Hell, I remember people praising community servers precisely because they didn't have to deal with kids on xbox screaming nigger and about how they fucked their mom all day and now you morons are turning around and telling yourselves community servers were great because they allowed that.>And that reason is to cut costs even though it's objectively worse.You think it's cheaper for the devs to host servers themselves and design or pay for an anticheat rather than just making players do all of it? You think that's why they started adding them when players were already hosting servers and community admins were a thing?>Here's your (you) underaged faggotYou'd probably have to google what PB is.
>>736989381The fact there are autistic people like me who can see right through their closet cheating attempts is proof they are not merely masquerading as decent/natural players. If they were no one would ever notice them but it's incredibly trivial for initiated.
>>736989314>Shroud I think, talking about how most people in the fps Esports scene use some amount of cheatsYou mean the dude who sucked ass and got shit on by every EU team accused all the better players of cheating?
>>736989501>When they're caughtIn 3 business weeks.>Never been banned from a game with MMYou're probably bad, but bans are still automated and all that's taken into account is quantity of reports over a period of time. False positives happen all the time because there's no moderation oversight.>You think it's cheaper for the devs to host serversGet a load of this zoomer, he thinks Valve is hosting and paying for all the community servers.
>>736989512good point. a common autistic trait is taking things at face value, which you clearly do if you think a clip compilation is meant to be indicative of a player's average performance.
>>736989583I don't pay attention to eceleb drama or niggEsports, I wouldn't know if he was good or bad. All I remember is one of the most fellated FPS esports pros whistleblew and everyone in the scene had to awkwardly act like he didn't.
>>736983845there is a game like that where it's basically standalone hvh where ytou script your own antiaim/aimbot and shit
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>>736982239No more open matchmakingOnce you are back to dedicated servers only, that manage and admin themselves, banning cheaters is a lot more permanent and effortless.
>>736989583>got shit on by every EU teamHard not to when EU teams are allowed to blatantly cheat and no one does a thing about it.
>>736982239Isn't it funny how troons always seem to be a part of some speedrunning or "aim" community and never play games normally?
>>736984808Anyone that has played Minecraft has done that.
>>736989991Funny, but also pretty sad sometimes. It didn't have to be this way for some of them.
>>736990005The most popular modern Minecraft servers are really matchmaking hubs. Kids aren't mining diamonds to fight the ender dragon or whatever, they're queuing up for Minecraft Hunger Games and Parkour Race.
>>736989991some tranny in another thread said they only play games to cheat in them to get revenge on society. it's always some buffalo bill or school shooter mentality behind everything trannies do it seems
>>736984369men and women have differently shaped and sized vocal cords. taking tranny hormones doesn't change that. it's weird to me they think that tranny drugs will 100% transform your body into a female one in every single way except for genitals, but they don't. they still have broad shoulders, big hands, and a prominent adams apple.because their vocals chords don't change, neither does their voice, so they have to TRY to sound like a woman, but 99% of them can't do it convincingly. if you know who Shmorky from something awful is, look up what he sounded like when he was trying to sound like a woman. it almost sounds like he's pulling a joke instead of being sincere. I'm guessing a lot of trannies out there have come to understand this and would rather just speak normally instead of sounding like a banshee. unless you already sound somewhat feminine, you're never going to be able to modulate your voice in a way that will fool anyone.
>>736989991>>736990167All troons inherently have a martyr complex. They intentionally put themselves in positions where the world is against them.
>>736989706>In 3 business weeks.Better than never or just going on to another community server.>You're probably badGood enough to get banned from dedicated servers.>False positives happen all the time because there's no moderation oversight.Are you one of those retards that posts their chatban on here expecting support just for everybody to call you a massive faggot? False positives definitely happen much more often with dedicated servers precisely because of the moderation oversight. I like how you ignored the rest of my argument. Good indicator that you know I'm right.>Get a load of this zoomer, he thinks Valve is hosting and paying for all the community servers.Thanks for letting me know you're illiterate and not worth replying to any further. Had trouble finding what PB is too, I bet.
>>736990248>Better than neverIt might be never if not enough people report them. That's the funny thing about automated moderation systems.You're seething an awful lot about something you've never participated in, kiddo. But I guess that's on brand for /v/ so I can't get mad.
>>736990181nah, anyone can voice train to have a perfectly passing voice it just takes a very very long time and most trannies are depressed lazy neetst.knower
>>736990245most of them were autistic incels before trooning out already. they already felt like the world was against them, while the truth was always just that they were rude unlikable nerds. trooning out has always been their attempt to paint themselves as a victim so they can convince themselves that the way they were treated was never their fault. they also think that trooning out gives them immunity from criticizm and a scapegoat for anybody who winds up hating them as a result.after all, blaming other people for your own personality flaws is easier than identifying and fixing them. the fact that you can get a boner whenever someone uses your pronouns and jack off to that is just an added bonus.
>>736989925this is meant to be damning?
>>736990167>some tranny in another thread>revenge on societyI think that's more an issue of people not being able to joke on this board anymore because retards will always take it at face value.
>>736990410Do you really think that low quality webm has the same framerate as the server's tickrate or that the hack would be so poorly coded to stop the instant it fired instead of organically continuing the curve for half a beat or that it makes any sense for him to shoot and stop there or that it aligns at all with the smooth flow we see with his hand?Of course you don't. You're just baiting.
>>736990423OP you're a disgusting fat slob and nobody likes you. never reply to my posts with your half baked copes again faggot
>>736990528>that the hack would be so poorly codedJust poorly coded enough to try shooting someone through an impenetrable wall.>it aligns at all with the smooth flow we see with his hand?You realize Flusha is the dude way in the back, right?
>>736988504no you couldn't, all of them were ad-riddled heavily modded trash
>>736990538You probably think people here get genuinely upset when you say nigger too, don't you?
didn't this cheating tranny get busted half a year ago?
>>736990738sick deflection sis. totally helping your case right now
>>736986507>ruin your entire life for a few months of easy streamer living Just go on unemployment retard and cheat on welfare, shit you'd probably make more than some "successful" full time streamers and it has far greater longevity.
>>736990680>Just poorly coded enough to try shooting someone through an impenetrable wall.It's normal for pros to shoot an impenetrable wall and stop their mouse on it, right? Especially if it's conveniently right over someone's head.There was smoke and he was desperate.>Flusha is the dude way in the backYes, are you unable to see his hands? Try zooming in on your phone.This clip had already been diagnosed to hell and back. If you seriously want to continue analyzing it then go into the archives.
>>736983178this is per capita too
>>736990738>niggerNo, we say nigger on 4chan because it's the last mainstream place on the internet where you canThe day we can't say nigger here anymore is the day 4chan's last shreds of independence have been eroded, not that there's much left
>>736982239I love how bad this board is at video games to think they cheated. their aim isn't even good. I put over 1k hours in kovaaks so I could aim good and I bet everyone here would call me a cheater
>>736990987You already kinda can't say it, mods randomly drop racism bans just for using that word. It's infrequent but it happens every now and then.
>>736984293source is not easy, i don't think even valve knows what goes on in that engine. but that just makes it more soulful
>>736991171depends a lot on the board. you're more likely to catch bans for stuff like that on /co/ than on /v/, but you'll never get banned for it on /pol/ even though its technically against global rules even there.
>>736990909>2016
>>736991171The mods here will ban you for whatever they want when it aligns with their overlords' goalsI've been permabanned before for harshly criticizing Israel and their current efforts to conduct a genocide under the guise of racism, despite Israel being a state and not a raceAlso yes this means I'm currently ban evading, eat my dick janny I will simply do it again it takes under five minutes you cretin
>>736990909Per capita for the entire population of the country, or per capita of people who are actively online and playing these games? keep in mind, most english speaking websites tend to be around 50% from the US, but internet traffic from, say, russia is relatively low comparatively, so it doesn't make sense to compare the number of cheaters online to the total number of people who live in that country.
>>736990528the crosshair isn't overlapping anyone
>>736990882>It's normal for pros to shoot an impenetrable wall and stop their mouse on it, right?By accident when one's playing on a really low sens and trying to flick over in a panic realizing his opponent is flanking him? I wouldn't say normal but it's not unbelievable either. It happens.>Especially if it's conveniently right over someone's head.Right over being the key words here. And where else is his crosshair going to go? The other guy is along a direct path to where he needs to move his mouse.>There was smoke and he was desperate.Desperate enough to toggle his aimbot on, his aimbot that's smart enough to imperceptibly blend into his aim but not smart enough to not shoot a target that can't be hit, but not desperate enough that he could have just accidentally tapped M1 while flicking over. He was also desperately trying to get a kill through smoke but completely avoids it when he's flicking over?>Yes, are you unable to see his hands? It's funny that you criticize the other dude for posting a screenshot of a low quality webm where he's clearly off target then say look at the tiny portion of the screen the player cameras are on and to analyze the hand movements of a dude all the way in the back.>This clip had already been diagnosed to hell and backYeah, I've seen what retards here think counts as cheating. I'll pass on the archives.
>>736991502local computer -> online stream -> webm conversionYeah i'm sure they all sync their tickrates up perfectly>>736991542>By accidentOops I accidentally right onto a head through the wall teehee
>>736990909Fixed
>>736990820no
>>736991576look at your webm frame-by-frame
>>736991584CHINA NUMBA WON#1 #1 #1MANDATE OF HEAVEN SUPREME GOLDEN EMPEROR DRAGON NATION
>>736990853>Asmongold StrategyThen become grift to the right when successful lol.
>>73699090910 year old data, 300 million Indians have come online since then. Also: lots of cheaters use VPNs
>>736989925He's just good bro. Look at the frames he's not even cheating. People who have money invested don't cheat.
>>736991702SAAR do the needful and become grift for hindu nationalism yes saar very good
>>736991576>Yeah i'm sure they all sync their tickrates up perfectlySo you're saying he could be even more off target on his computer? What reason is there to believe it's actually dead-on, if we just ignore our lying eyes, except that you really want him to be cheating and have already made up your mind?>right onto a head through the wallExcept his crosshair is off target and the guy is through an impenetrable barrier but go ahead and ignore anything that makes you feel stupid.
>>736991768Yeah I don't know why people are so quick to throw the cheat accusation around. Can't they count the frames? Pros don't cheat. Shooting impenetrable walls is a common pro strategy actually.
>>736991768What am I supposed to be seeing in this webm other than your connection or TF2's netcode being ass?
>>736991872>the wiggle that KILLED shroud
Oh, it's this fag. He's gotta dump his entire collection of every remotely suspicious moment collected over thousands of games now that he lost an argument.
>>736991898Zoomers like that poster think that what they see in a game is the ultimate truth and desynchronized visuals aren't a thing
>>736992021Closet cheaters lost. No one will get gaslit anymore. Billions must know the truth.
>>736992021>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
>>736992021>seamlessly snapping onto and shooting two different unseen heads once each during a 180>remotely suspiciousCSfags lost everyone knows your game is filled with cheaters even in the pro scene. That's why only games with rootkit antivirus are respected these days -- they prevent Flushas and Clouds from shitting up the game with cheats. Hell it's the only reason Overwatch even got as big as it did because all the CS players were sick of cheaters
>>736991982the wiggle that literally every obv cheater does and hes still doing this shit. insane
>>736992253>seamlesslyActually if you would observe the frames you would notice that each shot towards a head coincided with a sudden spiked mouse movement upwards to land perfectly upon the forehead of thine enemy. Such a thing is quite unnatural in anything other than the CS esports scene!
>shroudschizo is gayniggaschizoi am not surprised
>>736992454>you would notice that each shot towards a head coincided with a sudden spiked mouse movement upwardsLike...recoil?
>>736992253ive been watching the pro scene recently and every player has these moments in every match. its so over
>>736992548I'm out of cheater webms, sorry. This is the closest thing I got left.
>>736992253>only games with rootkit antivirus are respectedThat's right goyim, give your Personal Computer over to the corporation. For your own good, of course!
>>736992593you have a couple more shroud webms you usually post
>>736986010Don't fucking shill me Gabe Nigger in 2026Modding community owes nothing to fat kikeIt's the opposite. He would be nothing without all the goodwill of modders who for the most part worked for free and elevated Gabe Nigger so far up he can now afford an armada of Yachts.
>>736992662I know the batch you're talking about but I'm just another anon who downloaded the ones that seemed like legit hacks to me. The rest felt more like coincidences, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them were hacks. Once someone cheats once everything they've ever done comes into question.Too bad no one's autistic enough to compile another batch. Shroud poopdickschizo, we need you to feed us more esports hacker clips!
>>736992675>modding is the reason Valve is successfulis one of the most retarded takes I've heard on this website in a while
Idk who this threads rly about other than cheaters, but all cheaters should be sentenced of playing 2 years of Reflex Arena and playing 1v1 duel, there is some aim trainers based on some maps in Reflex Arena and chances are there’s a handful of cheats or something in an all in one bundle there depending on who u talk to :P
>>736992776can we edate
>>736992253>seamlessly snapping onto and shooting two different unseen headsExcept he whiffed. He aims at the most likely spot where the CT can be, has a very finite amount of places to even put his crosshair, and whiffs two separate times trying to get a lucky kill through smoke. This is your damning evidence. A dude missing two bursts trying to shoot a guy standing next to cover in a hallway. You can even go frame by frame and see that it's likely just recoil moving his crosshair to the actual head but that might be hard to judge given it's a slowed down demo that's also probably at half or less tickrate of the actual server.
>play online game>blood pressure rising>teeth starts chattering>Sweating>hand shakingI wipe the floor with most zoomers, they got zero situational awarness. But I'm unironically getting too old for this shit.
>>736992764Indeed. Even half-life was only possible because of these basement dwelling modders you condemn. Most of them never got paid. What? You thought two Microsoft fags made the Valve games? Fucking dumbass.
>>736992836Ignoring the first shot against the CT through the wall is like ignoring the XY chromosomes dictating your male gender
>>736982239What offended DICE is that he was caught, lost shares and popularity by consequence; and not that he was cheating.Ready for megacorp oligarchy?
>>736992938Sorry, I don't argue with the mentally challenged. Ask your handler to install child safety features on your device and you won't stumble in here anymore.
>>736982239I knew he definitely cheated when that faggot Karl Jobst made a video defending him.
>>736982239Did Gay Nigga actually cheat though? I don't remember anyone being able to actually prove it.
Pretending to be an anime girl on the internet deserves death far more than cheating in a videogame.
>>736993058He practice his aim at least three hours a day. I really dont think he cheated.
>>736993125nigga getting catfished by cartoon characters
>>736993125So what you're saying is you think it's cool to pretend to be a girl as long as it's not anime? How progressive of you Anon, never thought you'd be an ally.
>>736982239You git gud.
>>736993058You're asking if someone put a camera in his room and recorded him opening the cheating software and obviously that's not the case. But the footage itself is evidence enough for the simple reason that there is no plausible non-cheating reason someone would ever consciously take the actions he took in the game with only the tools and information available to a non-cheating player. The footage is damning.
>>736993058Repeatedly acquiring exact target vitals behind 100% visual and physical obstructions both with and without the vague hints from the peripheral minimap radar in the corner of the screen is not normal gameplay, anon
>>736993315lol
>>736993339>peripheral minimap radarI hate how sensitive that shit is in some games, it's basically wallhacks at times. You can be fully behind a wall and their minimap will pick you up, ruining your stealth play. Fucking bullshit. And then there's hero shooters with their fucking overhead health bars that go past whatever you're hiding behind. Who needs cheats when they're baked into the game?
>>736992948>Ignoring the first shot against the CT through the wallThe CT is either out of cover or in front of a tiny portion that's penetrable. He would have taken damage. He aims around where the guy should be and literally misses, dude. I even looked up a random D2 match, found CT getting smoked while a player is nearby, and look where the CT is playing. The same spot. Like, where else is his crosshair supposed to go so that it doesn't look 'suspicious'?
niggas have been defending this fag for a year now and still promise it's just a joke
Cheaters deserve the rope. Also I dunno who any of the faggots you guys are talking about and am once again glad I'm not a zoomer
>>736993461Oh, you really don't know. Cheating is so normal to you that you didn't even sense anything off. Yikes!
>>736991668Junior, cheating on ching bongtress 2 isn't auspicious, fuck off.
>>736993058HRT's shooting related improvements translates into video games.
>>736982239Tell me you're at least getting paid for shilling.
I remember people posting this fag's stats and he objectively sucked ass at the game. He just ran around trying to farm clips for his channel and retarded shitters fell for it hook, line, and sinker to the point they're still giving him attention and free advertisement.
>>736993462There are 3 kinds of people in these threads:People who watched the footage and said "wow what a cheating fag"People who didn't watch the footage and don't care to, but think the drama is funnyAnd people who started out playing devil's advocate to bait, lost an argument 8 months ago and now refighting that argument has become their entire life.
>gets banned in every game he was playing for cheating (was infamous for cheating in cod)>is "good" at battlefield 6>"ITs tOTaLLY DIFErrENT THiS TIME CHUD!! TRoNS ARe BETTER THAN YOU!!"
>>736993506Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was having an actual conversation with someone for a bit and not just feeding (You)s to some disingenuous faggot. I should have known better on /v/. I'll go now.