you didn't fall for the QD-OLED scam, right anon?
No, but it my basement it would not make a damn difference.
>>737080241I fell for the CRT grift.
>>737080302my condolences
>>737080241I LITERALLY cannot go back to non-blacks.
>>737080241I did, kind of. I knew about the purple tint but half the time, my room is dark and the other half it's dim enough for it to be hard to notice.If I could still return my monitor, I would give a WOLED a try but I don't regret my purchase.
I'm not dumb enough to buy a monitor which is fundamentally designed to kill itself over time
i bought a mini-led and it's great
>>737080853That's every monitor.
>>737080241No. Literally the only reason to buy an OLED is if you want perfect black levels, so buying one that has budget LCD-tier black levels if there's a candle lit three miles away is the most retarded thing I can possibly imagine. The new 4th-gen WOLEDs apparently comprehensively rape and gape QD-OLED across the board, so it can be thrown in the dustbin of history as another failed Samshit technology.
>>737080853>fundamentally designed to kill itself over timethats literally every modern electronic
>>737080804>when the BBC kicks in
>>737080302No you didn’tAnd I bet you don’t even play old games
>>737081001Every modern product
>>737080241>they fell for the oled meme just to get worse HDR than mini ledOH NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>737081280'sup, MiniLED bro.
Was only an issue with the first couple of gens and you can even get woled monitors now. Your points are old, shill.
>>737080241can i get a red pill on monitors?
>>737080995Perfect black means better color and contrast too, it's more pleasant than a backlit panel when sitting in front of it at a desk
>>737080241what's wrong with you? people on this board are insecure as fuck and you want to make them insecure about their purchase? you are a monster!
>>737081881glossy woled > matte woled > glossy qd-oled > matte qd-oled > mini led ips > ips > va >tn
>>737081448Isn't that Samsung monitor 55"? That's larger than my current TV. Meanwhile, I'm looking at 27" monitors.
>>737081881OLED gives the best color of any screen. Whether you go glossy or matte depends on your ambient lighting. If there is lots of light in your room, you want matte. If its dark/you have control of the light then glossy typically looks better.
imagine buying planned obsolescence burn-in slop
>he doesn't have blackout curtains>he doesn't exclusively game in the dark
>>737082310burn-in isn't a problem with modern oleds
>>737080241I did. It's great. The purplish color is only there when the monitor is turned off.
The worst display meme to fall for is ultrawide
>>737082389>
>>737082447>the grey water... its... not the same...I genuinely don't understand monitor autism
>>737082515OLEDs are better at content with black elements, MiniLEDs are better at bright content with high peak HDR values.There, I summed up practically every monitor thread that's ever existed and ever will exist until a new technology comes out.
Upgrading peripherals seems pointless. I'm using the same ASUS VS247 1080p monitor I got over 10 years ago. My speakers are older than the average /v/ poster. RTX 5070 is more than enough, I can't imagine upgrading my monitor would make gaming any better.
>>737082515no point in spending oled money if the smallest amount of light destroys the contrast, which is the entire point of oled in the first place
>>737082234Yeah. It's nice. -_-
>>737082635nah I had a TN panel for over 8 years and the switch to IPS and then mini-led was insaneI couldn't believe I was using such a shit monitor for years on end.. the colors were wrong, the refreshrate was terrible, the brighness absolute dogshit, viewing angles etc.
>>737080241No, because I care about HDR I went with MiniLED.But it does burn your retinas.
I want a new tv, the budget is around $500what should I look for and what are my best options?
>>737082635monitors are arguably the only tech that has genuinely improved over the last 10 years, jumping from a 120hz 24" ips to 240hz 32" oled is amazing
>>737082835HDR sucks major gorilla dick on windows no matter what monitor you use
>>737082789also HDR support made a massive difference
>>737082605Except miniled still has bloom and shit color due to still being back lit trash
>>737082903keep saving and buy an LG C5 whenever it goes on sale
>>737082635lol lmao evengoing from a 768p TN panel on a laptop to a 1440 p IPS panel to a QD-OLED panel were all huge improvements
>>737083119why
>>737083050And OLED still has burn-in and ABL. Blah blah blah. Pick your poison.
No. I got a 1080p Pavilion 24xw monitor, that I got off eBay for like 30 dollars.
I fell for the crt meme and now I've got strontium 90 poisoning
>>737083182>ABLany decent oled will have a uniform brightness setting
>>737083307And any decent MiniLED will have sufficient dimming zones and a good dimming algorithm.
>>737082946It's breddy gud here. https://files.catbox.moe/ceg8iw.jxr
I got this guy because i learned i prefer curved monitors with only having 1 working eye Flat monitors made my eye hurtThink its led and typical acer quality it was scratched out of the box
why are oledfags so defensive
is this a decent monitor for the price?i've been using 1080p for like 16 years
>>737083687Because they want to convince themselves that a $600 monitor is somehow not budget and they've ascended to richfaggotry.
>>737083837you can get an aoc oled with 240hz refresh and actually good response times for the same exact pricethis sucks absolute shit
>>737080241I did. No regrets though, partner discount. I love it
>>737080241the monitor tech isn't to blame for the retarded antiglare coating they put on themi took mine off and it's great
>>737084000did you mean the qd oled?also i'm a leaf so it's basically double the pricei want something with relatively good colors that won't break the bank since i like to draw so better color accuracy is quite important
>>737084218>also i'm a leaf so it's basically double the priceI was about to say. I bought mine at $250, but I'm american.
>>737083837thats an old version get the newer one
For me, it's the MSI 271KRAW16>5K + Dual mode integer scaled 1440p>Glossy>1500nits>Mini LED 2300 zones
>>737082370With a constantly visible taskbar and for browsing and such? Without ever needing to interrupt anything to let the monitor do its maintenance routine?
>Family PC has a nice asus VG278Q monitor great for anything really never burns in despite the youngsters using Roblox 3 hours a day.>finally get hit by the power brick failure after like 5 years.>family wants a new monitor instead of just replacing the brick like i tell them.>drags me along to pick one>Pick out a Samsung G5 ody since it seems to have decent reviews on most sites and i have 0 actual idea what makes a good monitor.be honest /v/ did i fuck up and waste 500 dollarydoos.
>>737082370Then show me a manufacturer offering a money back guarantee for burn-in. None of these companies will stand behind their product.
>>737085026what do you think a 3 year burn in warranty is?
>>737085385a way to jew you out of a couple bucks before the 3-eyar burn in develops?
>>737085385a quarter what it should be
>>737085534>>737085504>i should get to replace something i've used for 3 years for free
>>737085602>my product becomes useless unusable garbage in 3 years
>>737081280>buy mini led>can make bright things (like the sun) bright as FUCK >blacks are still darker than any regular monitor>didnt pay $900 for something that’s gonna get worse year after yearYeah I’m thinking we won
>>737085684it doesn'tyou're just throwing a shitfit over not getting to exploit the warranty system for longer
>>737083445lol nope, still need background for any color
>>737083445>sufficienteven the best minileds have 1 dimming zone for every 6400 pixelsminiled cope is entirely centered around oled
>>737085684With $350 OLEDs now available there's no reason not to get one if only for a dedicated gaming monitor, nothing else comes close. The fact that people are still using fucking TN panels in 2026 is insane
>>737086465If $800 OLEDs cant go a few years without problems getting a cheap one would basically be throwing away money
>miniled comes along and basically lets people experience 98% of an oled monitor with none of the issues>oledchuds freak out
>>737086751Except every miniled is made by some no-name chink company with awful QC that means it'll die before any OLED gets burn in.
>>737086791your oled is also made in china tardoit's all china
Monitors are such a pain in the ass to look for compared to TVs, the worst part is deciding on resolution and panel type.
>>737080241I did temporarily for my livingroom. Went from the 2016 LG C6 OLED (regular OLED, not even WOLED it is so old) to the Samjew S90F 65" and immediately regretted it. I have a completely blacked out livingroom with a 9.1.4 surround sound system and that TV can't even pass through multi-channel DTS (beyond 2.1), no Dolby Vision, and worst of all even the reflections from my white skin across the room were enough to raise the black levels on the display (and the illumination from the display itself). There is ZERO value in the wider color gamut if contrast plummets by simply turning the display on and using it. I'd rather perfect blacks of WOLED/Tandem OLED and miss out on color space that literally no movie/game/show uses yet personally.So yeah refunded it for a superior/cheaper LG C5 65" and my desktop monitor is a 48" LG and my wife's is a 42" C4 oled.LG display master race. Samsung's QDOLED is eWaste and only retards that listen to shills like Linus Cuck Tips think otherwise.
>>737082389The luminance from the display raises the black levels and crushes contrast in all scenes, it is just noticeable in dark scenes. QDOLED is ewaste because it can't use a polarizer. If they ever figure out how to include a polarizer (they can't) then it will be LG's OLEDs.
>>737086926Because unless you are a kinophile you dont need a TV that looks good. You just buy whatever model sounds decent, plop it in front of people, turn on sportsball (broadcast at 720p with compression) and normalfags cant tell the difference. Monitors you know instantly when you buy a piece of shit.
>>737086895Korea I think is where they’re mostly made
>>737087012How fucking far away do you have to sit from a 48 inch tv for it to be usable on a desk?
>>737087012>muh ambient light>>737082313
>MSI MAG 272QPis it good?
>bought a mini led monitor and experiencing HDR for the first timeits glorious
>>737087923XG27AQDMGR is better and is the same msrp
total FALD victory
>>737088041not where i live
>>737087989I'll probably go with one too, I love my OLED tv but I got used to the picture quality pretty fast and I don't want to be stressing over static elements all the time. Anything is an upgrade from my 10 year old IPS monitor
>>737088123opposite where I live lmao, the asus one is cheaper funnily enoughjust wait for a sale, or if its available get the XG27AQDMG, its an older version of the same monitor so it doesn't have the new fancy trueblack glossy coating, just a regular glossy coating, but otherwise its the exact same thing
>>737080241I did. My desktop QD-OLED doesn't have this problem at all and it's right next to a window with no curtains. My Steam Deck OLED does tho. Maybe because my desktop monitor is matte? idk.In any case I love both displays, who gives a shit.
How do you find a good ratio between resolution and size for a decent PPI without going too small?
>>737088747The PPIautists are generally running shit settings or quality, so they want an insanely high PPI to obscure flaws. If you run 4k max details, shit gonna be good. Get a big screen.
>>7370887474k - 32"1440p - 27"1080p - 24"can't go wrong with this
>>737087454>How fucking far away do you have to sit from a 48 inch tv for it to be usable on a desk?3 feet. It is perfect. Check any AV standards for optimal viewing distance by resolution and screen size. It also is pixel perfect 1:1 with my 1440p 32" portrait side panel. >>737087679>he can't readSad. I clearly stated the room is fully blacked out with thick blackout curtains, film on the one window the reflects light back outside, and even black paint on the walls in the livingroom. There is nothing you do to prevent it. Even if you could remove all ambient light and reflections it wouldn't matter because the illumination from the panel itself is more than enough to destroy contrast. It would be possible to prevent the self-emissive pixels from crushing contrast if you could delete the concept of light bouncing entirely. Because it reflects off the coating back into the nearby pixels and ruins contrast, let alone off your skin/shirt/sofa/teeth/eyes/etc. I've A/B'd both panel types in person. It is clear what is superior. Objectively. And it isn't QDOLED
>>737080241I have QLED
>>737087454I do 55" at ~3-4 feet when at the keyboard, and a little further when I'm leaned back with a gamepad. You might need more distance if you don't get a curved screen, though.
>>737084218I've had this monitor since 2024. It's solid, but the HDR sucks and the VRR flicker is pretty bad in dark scenes. Also, upgrading the firmware (which supposedly improves these things) at least is mine is just broken and doesn't work at all, so I'm stuck. OLED just also isn't really all that. Overhyped as fuck.
>>737088747Bigger monitors are better, they let you have a more natural viewing distance
>>737085713Nice poorfag cope
>>737080241Me.Maybe it's my room lighting but if the purple is there, it's definitely not perceptible. Perfect blacks. Anyway if you guys ever see an AW3225QF or whatever other brand uses the same panel or whatever the 1440p version is on sale, I can speak for it. It's quite based.
>>737089323>buy $2500 MiniLED>at least I'm not some poorfag who buys a $1k budget OLED
>>737089640>one dimming zone fails>entire panel is fuckedAt least I do not have the burning, saar! ACK!!!!
No, I still own the best woled in existence (LG C1) and it has no burn in at all still.I'm getting worried that lg still isn't making any better TVs, though. If it breaks I'm fucked because nothing compares to this model for gaming.
>>737090037>buy another $2500 MiniLED>at least I'm not some poorfag that SAARposts
>>737087012ever since I got my LG C1 a few years ago I stopped playing on my IPS monitors as they just looked horrible in comparison - backlight bleed/ips glow in corners, blacks and dark scenes always look washed out/grey, sdr looks very flat compared to HDR.so I tried a QD OLED monitor as I wanted to get back into mouse/kb games and it was just my monitor putting me off - got an aw2725d - and yeah side by side with the LG C1 the black level raise is highly noticeable even in an extremely dimly lit room with no sunlight. you basically have to have no light at all, even something small will raise the black levels so they're never perfect like WOLED. still a huge upgrade over IPS crap but it's the first thing I noticed as it's almost side by side with my C1.also another thing that bothers me is glossy monitors being "semi-glossy" while LG TVs are 100% super slick glossy that looks clear as fuck.
>>737085684I watched an oled long term review the other day and the guy said he used it for 3 or so hours a day on average for 3 years and developed burn-in in that time. They need a 5 year warranty at minimum. Lg offers that with their tvs but not their monitors which was the monitor that guy had burn-in on.
>>737088553It's been solved for a few generations now
>>737080241No but i did fall for the 1440p scam. I should have stuck to 1080p and saved several hundred dollars in hardware
>>737090319>ever since I got my LG C1 a few years ago I stopped playing on my IPS monitors as they just looked horrible in comparison - backlight bleed/ips glow in corners, blacks and dark scenes always look washed out/grey, sdr looks very flat compared to HDR.Man I feel you. Honestly I wish I never got that 2016 LG C6 way back because I am RUINED now. I cannot tolerate anything other than OLED. I can't even enjoy my switch 2 in handheld. It is just such a psychotically dramatic jump in quality. It is like the jump from PS1 era to Xbox 360 era in what it adds to the enjoyment/experience/etc.>>737090319>so I tried a QD OLED monitor as I wanted to get back into mouse/kb games and it was just my monitor putting me off - got an aw2725d - and yeah side by side with the LG C1 the black level raise is highly noticeable even in an extremely dimly lit room with no sunlight. you basically have to have no light at all, even something small will raise the black levels so they're never perfect like WOLED. still a huge upgrade over IPS crap but it's the first thing I noticed as it's almost side by side with my C1.Yeah it is unfortunate. I could have maybe tolerated it for a livingroom display if it wasn't for the fact that all QDOLED TVs are missing support for 75% of existing digital media on earth. I do dig how gorgeous the expanded color volume is but even how much deeper the color space is didn't make up for the fact that contrast was obliterated by the illumination of the display itself or the reflection from my face and that was at TV viewing distances. I couldn't do it with a monitor. But I'd imagine a matte coating would help psychologically at least. >>737090319>also another thing that bothers me is glossy monitors being "semi-glossy" while LG TVs are 100% super slick glossy that looks clear as fuck.I prefer matte coating. My wife's 42" LG C4 is super glossy and it does look nice but I really like how the matte coating makes you forget the coating exists.
I love my QD OLED its like looking into a window so real
>>737082370The tech getting "better" just means it takes slightly longer.If you use an OLED, because it is organic, and degrades quicker, it will always burn in SOMETHING. It doesn't matter whether your screen is always changing, or if you have a toolbar stuck on the bottom. Your OLED is going to die based on how it is being used. All that changing your screen use or playing different games changes, is how it burns in.>>737090431Why would they give such a long warranty for something they know will fail in that time?The whole point of OLEDs, is you buy a new one every three years. They look great, but they don't last. The only warranty they could offer would cover things besides burn in, and that's getting into>do you want to insure your ram?>we offer a five month warranty for PSU fans!tier Zionist Jewery
>>737090813how is it a scam? 1440 is great especially for desktop use. there is so much extra screen estate and everything looks so sharp
>>737081881OLED has burn-in potential, aggressive ABL, VRR flicker, suboptimal pixel layout and dirty screen at low luminanceMiniLED VA has black smearing, poor viewing angles, VRR flicker, suboptimal pixel layout, and some local dimming bloomingMiniLED IPS has the worst contrast and local dimming blooming of the 3, but none of the other flaws.Pick your poison.
>>737081209Every thingEntropy is a bitch
>>737092281A lot of the MiniLED flaws are minimized or not present in higher end Samsung stuff.
What's stopping you from just playing games on a regular TV like everyone else?
>>737092421Show me a VA panel that doesn't smear or VRR flicker
>>737092431I've been almost exclusively playing on a tv for a year now. Windows hdr is annoying but there are workarounds. Also windows with a controller in general sucks but hopefully they fix that with the upcoming xbox full screen mode.
>>737081881BUY LATEST MOST EXPENSIVE THING t.industry shill
>>737092119>If you use an OLED, because it is organic, and degrades quicker, it will always burn in SOMETHING. It doesn't matter whether your screen is always changing, or if you have a toolbar stuck on the bottom. Your OLED is going to die based on how it is being used. All that changing your screen use or playing different games changes, is how it burns in.We're been at a point with OLED tech, since about 2020, where the panel degrades significantly slower than a TN panel. You're going to get panel burn-in on an IPS/VA/TN panel caused by the LED backlight much quicker than any permanent burn-in on OLED displays. Just look at the 5 year long tests RTINGS has been doing on this topic. With the exception of Sony and some Samsung displays that implemented incorrect voltage specs and ABL due to sheer incompetence (because the identical panel part number did not suffer the same fate when properly implemented) OLED survives 2x as long as high end LCD displays which burn in rapidly by comparison and in very noticeable ways rather than just on blank gray images. They turn yellow and will have clear ghosts of logos (on LCD). So you're operating on a mindset that is a decade old. There is zero drawback for going OLED today other than cost and we're nearly to a point where that is not a drawback (1440p 27" 240Hz panels regularly drop to 300-ish dollars if you price watch on slickdeals).
>>737092709Don't care about OLED burn-in at this point, I care about all the other shitty flaws you get for that price premium
>>737092421>higher end Samsung stuff.Samsung has completely abandoned miniLED as have all sane manufacturers since there is no way to automate the LED placement. Everyone has swapped to MiniRGB which is NOT the same thing in the slightest with the exception of Sony and TCL (but TCL has it exclusive to 98" and above screens). So I don't know what displays you're talking about. It is an inferior tech and they have to overdrive luminance on the LEDs which rapidly degrades the panel life (extreme burn-in).
>>737092585Download AutoActions and set it to turn on HDR on a per game basis
>>737092773There are zero flaws other than in 25 years you might get burn-in, but you would have gotten that in 1/6th the time with a modern LCD panel.
>>737092773just rope yourself, minipenis shill.
>>737092848>>737092871see>>737092281the only disingenuous shills here are you
>please please please! buy our OLEDSHIT your IPS is going to get BURN IN they're so desperate ahahahaha
>>737092709>it does burn in, but>IPS/VA/TN burn in faster than OLEDThis is just bullshit lol
>>737080241Yeah i did because i just draw my curtains all the time and darken my room. Therefore its pitch black all the time. What you're demonstrating is something i notice which is why i close my blinds. If you have no control over the lighting situation in your room then its a problem. Not for me. I have an oled pannel in the same room and under dark conditions they're almost near identical in blacks and darker colors. Neither monitor would look like a light in a room.
>>737092829I have but it doesn't work with the gamepass games I play since the executables are locked away in a secure folder and selecting the uwp executable doesn't work. And it the app crashes wheh I select uwp now anyway since I updated my pc a couple days ago. Works fine with steam games though.
>Everything I can't afford is a meme/scamLet's please stop this fox and the grapes bullshit
>>737093096holy shit that sounds like a dystopian nightmarewhy the fuck do you use it
>>737092912OLED has had normal RGB stripped array pixels for 3 years now. What year do you think it is? I haven't seen VRR flicker on any of my 5 OLEDs. ABL is easily disabled if you don't want it (but it is kind of the point in a lot of content, but I do have it disabled in my C4 and C5 by going into the debug menu, about 30 seconds of button presses). >>737092970Go check RTINGS long term burn-in study. All panel types suffered burn-in but LCD had the most catastrophic failure. Pic related, this is Samsungs highest end LCD display. Their QLED panel tech. The heat from the backlight even caused the screen to CRACK lmfao, long after it burned in of course. I don't understand your cope here. MiniLED is more expensive than compatible but objectively superior OLED panels these days. I'm sorry you got duped anon but the first step in healing is admitting you have a problem.
>>737093158Use what? Hdr or gamepass? Hdr because it looks cool. Gamepass because I stacked a bunch of years for cheap a few years ago so I may as well use it. Forza horizon 6 is out soon.
>>737093174>yes, i do enjoy spreading complete fabrication
>>737093174You cannot disable an OLED's built-in hardware-level ABL dumbfuck.And true RGB layouts have only started appearing this year in select monitorswhy are you so fucking jewish?
>>737093174>I haven't seen VRR flicker on any of my 5 OLEDsI don't think I've seen one without it. They don't play well with gsync at higher refresh rates regardless. I just learned to live with it in some scenarios unless its too distracting then i just disable it.
>>737093396I hate that I've been so spoiled with VRR, its literally one of the best display technologies ever created for gaming, and now everyone is trying to brush it back under the rug because all the high end monitors suffer from flickering
>>737084047>QD-OLED meme>curved meme>4K meme>alienware memeit came with a BEST GOY CONSOOMER IN THE UNIVERSE plaque, right?
>>737093343>You cannot disable an OLED's built-in hardware-level ABL dumbfuck.I know this is bait but for once I'll spoon feed you retards: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HlocWf_wR3AFirst link in Jewgle. It is quick, easy and 100% correct. I don't know about inferior QDOLED displays but you can disable it on objectively superior LG Displays. Faggot.>>737093396If you're talking about using Window's native VRR over HDMI, the VESA standard, sure yeah that shit is awful. But if you enable Nvidia Gysnc which bypasses Windows VRR and talks directly to the scalar, there is none. You should check your settings if you're suffering some self-inflected flicker. Turn OFF vrr in advanced display settings in windows. That is not necessary or recommended in a panel that supports Gsync via scalar compatability mode or dedicated gsync scalar. >>737093335https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-resultsAnyway niggers, enjoy your night of coping and seething. I'm gonna go watch anime on my bedroom OLED and get a blowjob from my wife.
>>737081881OLED's have motion blur which makes them bad for video games.They also have a long list of other flaws.They're the best panel type for watching movies on though. But it is stop-gap tech and needs to be replaced ASAP.The current best panel type for gaming is still plasma. Because they have zero motion blur and perfect blacks.
I don't understand what the point of getting an OLED is if you're not someone who works or has a hobby that you need the color and picture quality like an artist or a photographer. Until then, it's just a splurge at your mere convenience rather a utility that better serves its functionalities
>>737093610ASBL IS NOT THE FUCKING SAME AS THE BUILT-IN ABL YOU FUCKING RETARDholy FUCKThe built-in ABL is what determines the overall peak brightness curve depending on how much of the screen is being illuminated and CANNOT be defeated since it is designed AT THE HARDWARE VOLTAGE LEVELgoddamn you people are stupid as fuck
>>737093452Yeah its annoying because i was spoiled by decent VRR tech like gsync for close to 11 years now or something. And that was when they put the modules in the monitor so they were pricey by doing that method since that was removing layers of abstraction between the GPU and monitor. Now it's soft emulation and i think i can notice the difference a little but thats hard for me to verify those claims about whether or not old gsync was better. Only shit part is that LCD response times were so abysmally worse compared to OLED that its hard to go back. Feels like two steps forward one step back kind of thing.
>>737093610Educate yourself, retardhttps://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-dimming-confusion-apl-abl-asbl-tpc-and-gsr-explained
>>737092431The same reason why /p/ will go and buy the most retardedly expensive cameras for taking random-ass objects to shitpost about or ask about how much of a hassle it is to take photographs of black people.
>>737080241I did, acer predator x27u. I've had it since December of last year and it still working fine. I tired of IPS backlight bleed bullshit and I decided to upgrade and never looked back.
>>737093610>article is about failure rates primarily in EDGE LIT TVS >this somehow applies to miniLED computer monitors >FALD TVs only had long term issues in 20% of casesAre you just lying for fun right now?
plasma 4 lyfe
>>737093775>>737093706APL can't be disable of course. Just like you can't change the peak brightness of ANY panel tech period. ABL however is the firmware controlling brightness external to how hard the display can be driven for panel care. You are just shifting goalposts. You can disable ABL. Obviously you can't change the peak brightness of a panel. You have a 2% brightness peak value which is the most useful measurement for HDR. Who the fuck is watching a blank white screen and thinking "BOY IS IT SHITTY THE ENTIRE SCREEN ISN'T 1300 NITS!"I won't hear this hebrew dialectic nonsense. Get fucked. A full screen peak brightness of 1300 nits is exactly why LCD panel life is significantly lower than OLED. Because LCD has to be driven a LOT harder and thus HOTTER to reach similar contrast levels which literally COOKS the panel. That's why display manufacturers do 100% identical things with FALD via MiniLED to avoid VAPORIZING their displays since you can't circumvent the laws of thermodynamics. They raise brightness to 5K nits in a tiny zone on LCD with FALD to generate the contrast and luminance values required for HDR. You guys should put down the crack pipe and read what you linked. I read every article by TFT Central and RTINGS.
>>737093775lol he got real quiet after this
>>737093986Wrong, it is miniLED, quantum dot LED (high end LCD panels), OLED, QDOLED, WOLED, etc. Every display type.
>>737094085>you can disable ABLliterally from the article you failed to read:>There is no way to disable ABL at all, even using a service menu of an OLED screen – it’s an inherent technical and power limitation. Nothing you can change in any service menu would turn this off.
>>737082426Nonsense I've been using my ultrawide for 15 years now and I can't go back.So much extra room.Curved, 2k, and anything over 29" is a meme but flat 2560x1080 29" ultrawide is the sweet spot.
>>737094085>Where ABL is used in HDR situations, older OLED panels tended to be poorer at handling the changes and you could sometimes see noticeable dimming and brightness changes as scenes changed. This was often with a short lag as well, so even in real usage and dynamic content sometimes things appeared to be dimming and brightening oddly. This was simply the screen adjusting because of the ABL. On modern OLED panels it is much less of an issue and generally the algorithms that control this do so very well. Personally I have very rarely seen issues with this in normal usage on OLED TV’s I’ve used. Some people do find it problematic or distracting, and sometimes will rule out OLED as a result. If you want super high peak brightness beyond what you can get from OLED today, and the ability to keep that same peak brightness at all APL’s then an LCD panel with something like a Mini LED backlight might be a better solution for you.
>>737094085holy COPE
>>737094134Yeah, and the running theme is that edge lit TVs are shit. I dont know how that applies to computer monitors
>>737080241I did
>>737080995enjoy your dirty screen and gray banding I guess
>>737080241No I fell for the woled scam with the dog shit vertical lines during dark scenesThanks a lot rtings 9/10 my ass this is almost as bad as ips
>>737083615what happened to your eye anon?
>>737092709you are out of your fucking mind if you believe that>>737092970yeah, oled fags are trying to NO U with a problem thats specific to oleds.It's ridiculous.>>737093174>Go check RTINGS long term burn-in study. I don't have to fucking retard, I Have real life experience with LCDs being used for a decade.None, zero, NADA of my LCD monitors have burned in or even stopped working and I gamed heavily on those, like 8 hours a day. You are a fucking retard
>>737093610>supremely retarded, or intentionally spreading false informationI can't decide.
my main monitor was oled and fucking died in less than a year, was a cheap used refurb, and got a brand new expensive 700+ dollar one as a replacement. it still sucks and has issues. oled as main monitor is a mistake
>>737097913I'm just using OLED until mini led monitors with more than 1000 zones become common
>>737098041Mine has 1056. Of course, this liar (>>737092791) claims it's not MiniLED.
So is there a monitor worth buying?
>>737098118Get a CRT. 480p30 on a 14" CRT is better than 4k480 on an OLED.
>>737092791>there is no way to automate the LED placement.????????
>>737098118Basic LCD for 100 to 300$
>>737098117Yeah I don't think that's enough2k 3k should be the starting point
>>737080241of course not
>>737098118Don't bother with an oled if you spend a lot of time browsing web/on desktop, best bet atm is one of the $500 HDR1000/1000zone chink minileds from amazonif yours has issues (extremely likely) you can always return it for a good one (do not rely on the chink RMA, they'll make up some reason you can't send it back)
the fancy expensive af replacement monitor they gave me just the basic plug in the back is almost faulty you just slightly tap it and it disconnects the monitor and you gotta replug it inreally shit
>>737092709>LCD burn in rapidlyI don't know which reality are you from but the actual RTINGS tests show two things:1, Every Oled will burn in. Guaranteed. The manufacturers improved burn in reduction significantly and watching movies doesn't seem to be an issue anymore (and who watches news constantly today) but these TVs are sold with PC/console gaming support for a reason. It is bullshit to claim it is extreme usage if you have constant hud elements on your screen. To this day no one can guarantee anything for your specific use case. If you are doing high brightness/hdr/ui elements constantly it will get fucked in a few years. 2, If your only criteria for usability is: "Can the panel show a recognizable image?" then LCDs in general fail more than Oleds. This is of course ignores the fact the test had a bunch of LCDs from the low quality budget range which doesn't exist in Oled. However at this point you can also ask the question: who will need replace their screen more frequently? The Average Joe with an LCD who probably won't notice any kind of smearing or tint until the panel completely gives up or the perfect picture obsessed OLED user who gets faint uniformity issues the moment he runs his favorite game "too much".>t. actual Oled gamer
>>737080241Do i look like i know what jpg is?
>>737080241>OLED? miss me with that garbage, the bleed-in over time is terrible
i love my glossy WOLED and would quit playing video games before going back to anything less
>>737080241I don't know when I'll ever be staring at a black screen on my monitor so these things are fucking retarded. OLED still needs to be babied in 2026. See that viral video of the LG OLED turning itself off because of the Resident Evil gun flash kicking in the anti-burn in technology LMAO
No, that e-waste is homo shit. The higher IQ move is to be content with anything shit and mid. If you get fancier meme garbage, you'll only want to spend more. It's like taking in BBC and getting addicted to cock.
>>737099425>he doesn't play old jrpg's on his OLED in the dark so it looks like the rooms are floatingunironically NGMI
>>737083837I have that monitor, no complaints at allreally nice when I'm able to actually use the HDR for something, I don't give a single fuck what anyone says that shit looks amazing when it's done well
>>737099535I don't because I just play the games and my focus is on the games and character, not black levels like a blacked cuck.
>>737099514>homo shit>It's like taking in BBC and getting addicted to cock.least homosexual OLED detractor. seriously anon you need to take a step back and look in the mirror and ask yourself why these are the analogies that come to mind
Let me guess, you ''need'' more
WOLED turns to shit at high brightness.Anyway take the QD-OLED TV PILL, one without the shitty anti glare coating (like the S95f).
>>737099562>i willingly suffer an objectively worse experience due to my poor financial statusthat's fine anon i'm not judging you but coping like this isn't healthy.27" 1440p 240hz OLED's are $350 right now. if that's too rich for your blood you need to evacuate the third world (the US is full however)
>>737080241They're much better than WOLED even in a bright room actually, the 4th gen brought a black shield to every panel which severely tone down the purple hue and it also keeps the far superior color of the QD OLED, colors that WOLED simply can't reach
>>737099632>27"Yes, I do need more.Currently have a 32", open to getting an even bigger monitor, but I'm poor right now.
>>737080241I bought one last year, I like it for games and watching the occasional slop, I have a 32" 4k ips monitor for actual productivity though.
>>737080302>CRT grift>griftyou can get one from a dumspter
>>737099632I bought a monitor like this 10 years ago, has IPS even improved since then at all?
>>737099835no, the improvement is that OLED now costs what IPS did 10 years ago so you just buy OLED
>>737099675Lmao, "objectively worse" + broke-shaming + "evacuate the third world"? is peak cope.Yes, $350 27" 1440p 240Hz QD-OLEDs exist. Still doesn't make OLED the smart choice for PC use.PC desktops, browsers, Discord, code, and taskbars are static for hours. OLED suffers uneven wear and burn in risk, that's why every manufacturer now gives a 3 year burn in warranty. IPS has zero permanent burn-in.Add QD OLED's triangle subpixels causing text fringing/rainbowing on Windows UI, and you get worse clarity for actual daily work. Perfect blacks are great for dark room gaming,movies, but for mixed PC use? The jump from good IPS isn't worth the risks, mitigations, and hassle.IPS = reliable, sharp text, no anxiety. OLED = luxury with trade-offs you're ignoring.Stay mad you have to babysit a panel.
The only babysitting you have to do is pixel refresh tbqhfamI've played on my Vita a lot and it doesn't have any sign of burn in at all, it really depends on the use case but this is almost a 15 years old console at this point
>>737099835Dell now makes 120hz 4k ultrasharps, but that's about it.
>>737098584Wasn't the RTINGS test with edge lit TV sized LCDs running news channels? Some static elements from the news ticker and so on but the test case seems to favour OLED and drawing conclusion out of this for game usage seems rather questionable.
>>737099864do you not have 2 monitors, brokie? turn off the OLED when you aren't gaming, it's that easy
>>737099947>I willingly suffer an objectively worse desktop experience because I bought into something thats only really goof for TVslmaoing.
tfw no modern 16:10 gaming monitor
>>737100460Steam deck
>>737100460gay meme aspect ratio
>OLEDfags obsession with the blackest of the blacksBBC black porn fetish
>>737080241OLED are a scam, i paid for all the pixels on my monitors and by gods given right as a consumer i demand to see them (at full brightness) at all times
Bought the XG32UCWMG and the gloss really is glossy. Driving that with a laptop also is kinda fucky, both performance and driver wise. Also sad that it isn't curved at that size. Other than that it's crazy how black blacks can be.
>>737101293>I bring up poopdicks out of nowhere all the time because I think about them 24/7 but it's you who's obssessed with them doe!
>>737080241>Youtube reviewersTotally un-biased and absolutely not going to backpedal their "hardware testing" with "uh, i was just giving my opinion, you can't actually hold me accountable to my reviews lol".Don't buy a qd-oled, but don't not buy one because a fucking youtuber influenced you, cut your dick off if you're unable to formulate your own opinions.
>>737080995>rape and gapeImagine if your mother heard what you type.
Gamers will do anything but upgrade their desk and chair.
>>737081881OLED is the future, you are a getting fed lies by anybody who says otherwise, I cannot tell you how insane QD-OLED actually looks IRL, all of these poorfags are letting youtubers lie to them, it's hilarious, I also could not tell the edge of the screen from the bevel of my monitor when playing re requiem either
>>7370844676 minutes of "pixel refreshing" is nothing, go stretch your legs or something
Me? I am a mini-LED enjoyer. Waiting for the new RGB-mini-LED monitors that should be coming out next year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGmk4QChD4
Is there a 2k glossy mini led that doesn't get the quality murdered by also being dual mode?
>>737099864>goes to videogame board>"yeah uh, unless you're gaming, this isn't worth it lol"huh
>>737099535I game on a Hisense 75U8K (MiniLED ADS-Pro panel) and I decided to see what this looked like in a pitch black room, this is what I got.
>>737101708>glossythey barely make glossy monitors anymore
>>737099807Have you been living under a rock anon? Any halfway decent crts start at like $300 where I live. Normie hustlers learned that retrogaming nerds are willing to pay money for that
>>737101728You spend 75% of your stime shitting up the thread.
>>737101741damn that's nice
>>737101694oh yeah, totally the same, youtubers are 100% trustworthy, absolutely unbiased never motivated for views ever promise uwu
>>737101791This isn't a quality thread, I could ask why you're even in here.
>>737101825Only visible on camera, your naked eye will never see the difference. If anything, the mini-LED will look better because it's brighter.
>>737101741>>737101792Here's one using the 50 megapixel camera (S26)I think it came out nicer
>>737101864If anything, the mini-LED will look worse because it's a cheaper panel.
>>737101694>chink shilling a chink monitorYou can't be this stupid, anon. MiniLED is inherently a cope. There's no way to avoid blooming except for crushing black detail. MicroLED is the only solution, but that's forever vaporware.>>737101757Most new WOLEDs are glossy or have a glossy option.>>737101864>the mini-LED will look better because it's brighterYeah, just like TVs look their best when set to the 'Vivid' preset or equivalent. Brighter means betterer after all. Fuck accuracy and scorch my eyeballs!
>>737101891A hamburger is cheaper than a restaurant meal, but it tastes better.
get BTFO you stupid faggot
Still on TN while you keep arguing about pixels lol.
>>737101694>spend $1000 on monitor>lose to $300 oneKEK
>>737101950It's not like you personally invented OLED, I don't understand why you're so angry.
>>737101939nah brother, try using an OLED in a somewhat well lit room, it looks worse than the cheapest LCD, the mini led doesn't have this problem
>>737101792Yeah I absolutely love this TV. It's not perfect, but its damn good for the asking price and since it uses ADS Pro panel is has zero smearing or VRR flickering.Its really unfortunate that Hisense isn't using the ADS for their 2026 flagship models.If this one ever dies I just hope they are still making the 2025 version, miss me with that VA shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvnX3AIq8Q (not my video, just one I found that best showed how good this tv looks)
>>737101950OH SAY CAN YOU SHAAAAAART
>>737101983Except the OLED is clearly better and this is just youtuber fence-sitting bullshit.You're not seriously going to not buy an OLED because a youtuber told you to, are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRGwzbnuLJA
>>737102038I listen to /g/, and they say to get a CRT and run Windows 98. You don't need more.
>>737102085>youtuber "opinion">youtuber "opinion">youtuber "opinion">youtuber "opinion">youtuber "opinion"Maybe, just maybe, they're saying shit for views
>>737080241I did, wasn't a big improvement over my VA screens honestly. Not sure the advantages are worth the inconvenience of their automatic maintainence routines
>>737102038OLED does not have enough brightness for a true HDR experience.
>>737102085HOLY SHITOLED fags on suicide watch
>>737102085Kek the MiniLEDs brightness mogs the OLED's so hard it makes it look dim as fuck due to the camera's fixed ISO level
>>737102115g will tell you to get a 1440p oled
>>737102167OLED shills will try to cope and say the test is rigged, but if they set the camera to where the OLED looked bright, the MiniLED's brightness would be absolutely blowing out the camera and just look like a blinding blur
>>737102142It will if you buy the >$1000 monitors with HDR capabilitiesBut otherwise, nobody is saying monitors are better than TV's, and TV's cost like over $10k for the best, so you're not even being fair bringing up HDR either, faggot.
>>737080241I just have regular LCD monitors that let me play at 1920x1280 and 144fps.>look at prices of oled>$500+No thanksI'll buy the valve VR headset to experience something visually cool
OLEDs are the latest e-waste slop. Built by the jews
>>737102247Modern TVs absolutely mog modern monitors, but I understand not everyone is willing to dedicate an entire room to a gaming PC home theater setup*comfily browsing the chans from a recliner*
>>737102293your life is waste
>>737102313Modern TV's have higher input lag, because they are not designed for gaming but instead cinematic viewing.You shouldn't compare monitors and TV's
>>737102324keep on coping incel
>>737102363I'd rather be an incel than some brain-retarded faggot who cannot physically stop thinking about Jewish people or Black men.God, imagine just walking around thinking of Jews or Indians or African people, what fucked your brain up?
>he fell for the OLED memethanks for funding MicroLED research, I guess
>Upgrade monitor>Now I have to buy 5090 as wellI think this is a trap.
>>737102443I used 4K display with 2070S thanks to DLSS
>>737081881Glossy vs matte is the only spec that matters, unfortunately glossy displays are incredibly rare and often reserved for expensive professional monitors, almost all OLED pannels have a glossy finish so that's why they immediately pop out in side by side comparisons. Virtually all gaymen monitors have a matte finish except for OLED.
>>737102360Most modern AAA slop is made with "weight delay" precisely because most people pretend to enjoy gameplay while on TV.
>>737099807Anyone who had a CRT and was about to throw it out already did so years ago, there aren't any left. Other than checking out your local landfill your best bet is to buy it from some shitposter who talks about how great CRTs are by day, and lists them on FB marketplace by night. It's a whole system. You're going to be paying the original 90's prices adjusted for inflation though.
What site do I use for display tests, now that RTINGS is paywalled?
>>737102443My monitor can be turned into a 27" or smaller with lower res with black bars for gaming
>>737102443Always has been. Remember those times when you played 240p in ps1 and were still happy?
>>737102536I took out my first family PC out of attic last week. Waiting for VGA HDMI/DisplayPort converter to use CRT with my current PC/Steam Deck.Is there a way to force resolution and refresh rate.I tried MOHAA on this old PC, but it forced 60 Hz in game.
>>737102536>>737099807I wish I saved mine, but was stupid and fell for "more space" meme.Thief and Deus Ex play like different games on CRT instead of TN/IPS LCD
>>737080241I bought a miniled and I love it.
your honest thoughts on this?
when I first got my QD-OLED a year ago I had to get my jaw off the floorit is THAT goodit's not without problems like gay dimming or having to set up lighting in my room (close the blinds a bit and move main lights behind the monitor) or 3x the cost of a high end IPSbut at the end of the day it is genuinely a better investment than a new gpu>>737102167realistically you won't go above X lumensespecially in a dark roomalso you do not know how exposure in photography works do you?
>>737102794Mini led is the future yesNow I wish they wouldn't import these newer models from China at a snails pace
>>737102854also fun fact: I calculated that on my QD-OLED burn in shouldn't become an issue before 6-7th year of usage even if I use it for productivityin the same timespan I had 2 LED TV failures: one panel failure and one backlight failure
>>737080241Mine looks like left though.
>>737102968What brightness setting are you using?
>>737080241WOLED are inferior in color volume though it can't even reach 75% mean while QD-OLED can easily reach 95% and above
Isn't mini LED just LCD with more dimming zones?What am I missing?
>>737102854>realistically you won't go above X lumensIt looks very impressive in HDR games. I recently played Stellar Blade, really good HDR implementation. Explosions look like flashes of light.
>>737103076i have a MSI MAG 27 something whatever and i'm at 50 brightness in SDR and like 70 in HDRbut again I was at freedom to move change tge lighting in my room to fit the monitor>>737103205it's fun for around 30 minutes before your eyes start to get tired
>>737103301>it's fun for around 30 minutes before your eyes start to get tiredThat's not true. You get good HDR at 1000 nits, the average sunny day is 10000 nits. The sudden brightness peaks are rare in HDR.
>>737103301>MSI MAG 27 something whatever and i'm at 50 brightness in SDR and like 70 in HDRIt'll develop burn-in in 1-2 years at that brightness, if you want it to last for 10k+ hours, you'll have to lower it to 20%.
>>737103125Yes
>>737102794"perfect blacks" they said, lol
>>737101773Maybe its so on the west. Here I can find a 17 inch CRT for under $20.
>>737102932>Now I wish they wouldn't import these newer models from China at a snails paceYeah, China already has 2000+ zone mini leds, and they are dirt cheap over there
>>737080241>screen started "bleaching" at the top>The "bleached" parts now have my desktop icons burnt inFuck
>>737080241>you didn't fall for the QD-OLED scamI almost did, but returned it over its glossy coat microscratching like a motherfucker even using distilled water and a fresh microfiber
>>737103936I almost fell for it, but then I realized OLEDs are so dim that I won't be able to use them in my bright room with 3 open windows.
>>737100989>extra space == bad
>>737102443Idk when I bought my pc (I had to built from scratch including monitors) I specifically targeted fullhdStill should've went for 4070 Ti instead of base model methinks
>>737080241i sit in a pretty dark room, it's just objectively superior to WOLEDs in that condition
I play video games on an integrated graphics laptop
>>737102360Modern TVs have game modes that nullify any input latency and puts them on par with desktop monitors.Any competent review will prove this.
>>737101757i have a glossy QD-OLED, looks absolutely incredible
>>737080241i only ever see it like that when its off (which it is in your pic)
>>737105042Mostly correct but not true in the case of sony tvs which, last time I checked at least, had a 60hz input lag longer than one frame.
>infinite size>takes no space>negligible power drawit's time to take the vr pill
>>737106743Huh?The complete opposite is true.
>>737080853/thread
The butthurt about oleds is funny, it shows off retarded habitsImagine staring at a max brightness screen when curtains are $20Imagine wasting screen space on a taskbarImagine preferring the whole screen being a light source with light modeImagine wanting it to be on when you're not looking at itAll of it is just brown and retard behaviour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15aIdl-HKWc
>spend $1000 on a monitor>cant even use it for basic computer stuff like web browsing without burn inOMEGALUL
>>737099793How are you finding this anon? I've been eyeing this one off for a while, but it's still fucking expensive for a monitor.
>>737106818you gorilla nigger retard
>>737080995Literally the only reason to buy an OLED is if you want an amazing image quality.
>>737080241still the king of screens
>>737080954My monitor from my high school days in 2012 still usable today
>>737080804the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice
>>737109743I still have my old ass IPS somewhere i think I bought it around 2011, but side by side with newer monitor it looks like shit.>very dim>60Hz>1080p>awful motion blur>glows like motherfucker>white point is fucked so everything looks purple no matter whatIt honestly looks much worse than my secondary CRT monitor..
>>737110568You forget >Last for eternity
>>737110568I have two Samsung SyncMaster both older than 15 years that work fine and look decent the last time I used them. Sadly I don't have a DVI GPU anymore so I cannot hook them up anymore without adapter.
>>737110657I didn't throw it away, maybe I'll find use for it some day. I spend almost whole day staring at the screen, it might be a good idea to have at least decent monitor. My current monitor is already 6 years oldfuck time flies
>be me>hate glare on my IPShit screen>so make my viewing area a cave>cave now betrays my IPShit screen's inept black levels because I'm always playing something with dark content>"I want a screen with good black levels">see WOLED is better in brighter areas and QD-OLED is better in darker areas"Damn I wonder which one would naturally accommodate my pre-existing preferences">/v/iggers bleed out their vaginas no matter what monitor you use>life is goodLast time I went to best buy for comparison, it seemed like QLED was very good also but about the same price range.
>>737111694>QLEDI hope this is typo.
>>737111787Maybe it was QNED. Didn't matter to me any because my current monitor does everything I want, but I remember it wasn't any cheaper than the contemporary OLED options.
>>737088980Do you exclusively collect hypebeast faggot shit?
>>737080241whats the scam about?
>>737112042There is no scam, just uninformed buyers.
imagine spending your limited time on this planet cheaping out on a worse display
Since not many TVs come with 3.5mm output these days, what should I use to connect good old speakers?Right now I have them connected directly to PC, but it's annoying when switching source, since console audio goes from internal TV speakers.I heard that HDMI ARC is laggy.
>>737107468>Don't own the product you're talking about>Think you know how it functions because a youtuber told you about itHmmm
>>737112574depends on the console but if it has a 3.5 jack for headphones you could connect it to a free 3.5 jack to your pc as line in. Downside is that your pc needs to run then for the console audio and the setup kinda sucks if they are far apart. An audio interface can work if you have multiple sources but I never tried one myself as I just use Bluetooth on my DAC for console.
>>737112465imagine spending your limited time on this planet wasting time with videogames
>>737112646OLED users themselves try to convince people that it's not a problem, since you just have to constantly move windows
>>737080241I did but that's not the biggest problem, the biggest problem is that I fell for the ultrawide scam.I will only buy 16:9 from now on, fml.
>>737112927how come? 2160p ultrawide 500hz oled is my dream monitor
>people ITT buying disposable OLEDsWhy not just get mini-LED and wait for GaN-LED?Monitors should last years, not burn-in or lose LUTs in literal months.
>>737113361imagine being on your deathbed and thinking about how you spent the best years on your life looking at a shittier screen to save $1000
>>737113361>Just wait™I might not get to survive until 2050.
>>737110657which is why it's great as a secondary monitor. but playing games on those is shitty if you have any standards
>>737113361>literall months the burn-in thing gets more ridiculous with every post lmao
>>737113583>>737113361I had a browser up on my screen for 5 minutes and that shit was like white phosphorus permanently burned into my screen
>>737113760that monitor? albert enstein
>>737113760the burn in just flew over my house
>>737113760that's called image retention and it gets cleaned up by automatic pixel refreshthat's not burn in you idiot and it doesn't happen if you're not some fucking braindead boomer that uses light mode on maximum brightness
>>737113583Every single modern "burn-in compensation" tech requires the entire monitor to lose luminance equivalent to the most decayed pixel.Instead of burning-in a single static element your entire monitor burns in.The end result of that is the average OLED loses ~50 NIT of luminance in the first 6 months and it accelerates from there.By 5 years of use: a 1000 NIT OLED is expected to have decayed to ~600 NIT.Why would you knowingly buy a disposable monitor?
>playing vidya>on a tvModern /v/ is so incredibly depressing
>>737113959>Why would you knowingly buy a disposable monitor?because no other panel even comes close in terms of how it looksalso source?
>>737113974what are you talking about? we're talking about monitors
>>737114163There's several giganiggers ITT talking about how they use an xboxhueg TV to play vidya.
I mean OLEDs have a nice response time but VRR flicker is a thing
>>737113959>1000 NIT OLEDmost oledfags probably arent even using monitors with half that
>>737113974TVs in the 2020s are as fast as monitors for gaming
>>737114336I've found that it depends on where you set the frame limit. I just keep gsync enabled by default now.
>>737114109The general consensus is that mini-LED is within 5% of OLED on "true black" and matches or exceeds it on everything else. It also has a panel lifespan rated in decades rather than years.
>>737113959https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-burn-in-lcd-oled
>>737080241>QD-OLEDfuck is that now
I bought a monitor from Amazon that was a refurbished "like new" item which had like a 40% price reduction.The accessories had been opened and lazily re-packaged but were clean and still had their sticky plastic seals on them.The monitor panel had every factory plastic seal on it, it literally had never been used as it still had the protective layers I had to peel off, but it did have a small faint mark on the back you can't even see.I just bought it and thought who cares, it will be good enough.
>>737114516The general consensus is that your mom sucked my taint.
>>737080241I'm planning to, with Samsung Odyssey G5, it looks cheap enough to give QD OLED a try. I already have LG C4 for movies and console
>>737114516uh no
>>737114516mini led is great but come on dude
>>737114556>that 100% windowImagine playing whatever and its a daytime scene and your monitor just cant get bright anymore
>>737114516forgot link https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/mini-led-vs-oled
>>737114843that's why people who use them in bright rooms are retarded. oled is quirky and you need a darker room where your brightness is low
This entire thread is forcing me to wish for a War that kills this led faggotry>>737113974The Linus and /r/pcmasterace Generation of brainwashing.Not a while ago all here at 4chan were mocking said people.
>mini ledYou still have to deal with shortcomings of va or ips.Yes, oled will die quickest, but I just want best display for media.
>>737080241going from VA to OD-OLED is the second biggest visual upgrade (after 60 to 144hz) ive experienced in gaming, even bigger than 1080p to 1440p
>>737099932Edge lit LCDs are cancer and responsible for 90% of bad press LCDs have. They need to overdrive them to get light far enough into the middle portion of the screen. Which means many of those leds get so hot from constant use they go up in smoke. The rest of the 10% bad press for LCDs come from the fact everyone can manufacture those and a lot of them are extremely cheap. I have a 20 years old Samsung LCD and a 16 years old Sony. They are running 12+ hours almost every day since I got them and aside from a few dead pixels on the Sony they have no issues. The Sony one was my console gaming TV for ten years and I put in 6000 hours in Overwatch alone in 3 years. No static elements anywhere.
>>737113974Did you ever check performance of oled TVs?
>>737115596a couple years ago i went from a 2070S -> 4080S and then upgraded my IPS to an OLED 4 or 5 months laterit made me unironically regret getting the gpu first, i would've rather had the OLED and old specs
got a question for the non shills, are oleds truly reliable nowadays? out of all the monitors i've ever had in almost 30y only a single IPS died on me after 12-13y, even got some CRTs running on my kids computers, so if i buy a monitor i'm expecting it to last, will that be the case with an oled or do you have to replace it after 3y like some anon said?
>>737115964>using the same monitor for 12 fucking yearsyou are accustomed to consuming shit, might as well just buy a 1080p60fps e-waste and be done with it
>>737115964>truly reliable no, burn-in will never be solved. i love my OLED and can never go back, but i genuinely have no idea how long it will lastget a mini led instead
>>737113974>not having your PC connected to both a monitor and PC depending how comfy you want to beunironically ngmi
>>737115964Not sure I'd recommend any tech made in last 5 years with premise of it working for over decade. I'm surprised that any display technology lasting that long without any issue.I recommend checking rtings and other burn-in tests. If you mainly will use it for browsing, documents or mostly 1 piece of software- don't get oled. For maximizing oled lifespan, I'd recommend setting it as second monitor with black wallpaper and no start bar, use media in fullscreen/borderless mode mostly on it. This most likely means changing your approach to 'how use monitor' and I understand most people don't want that.
>>737080241I did, but its still the best option for blacks since >no luminance overshoot of WOLED>no backlight bleed of mini/LED>true 4k@144hzYes you will get burn-in, especially early models like my Samsung S95B.But its still best option available.Waiting for Micro-LED, maybe that will fix the issue.
>>737115964Depending on how you use your monitor you will get burn in sooner or later no way around it.But if manufacturers are giving 3y warranty for burn in that means it will mostly last you that long without a problem.https://youtu.be/15aIdl-HKWcVideo from an OLED shill, btw.
>>737081448Niggas using a display port as a monitor
>>737080804But enough about your cuck fetish
>>737115964Do you remember Plasma TV?OLED is essentially the same, they have some advantages, but also a very limited lifespan.
>>737116404QD also has way better colors, especially with glossy panels
>>737115964I wouldn't recommend it for a monitor. static elements still destroys them long term. However I'd say the image quality and motion clarity makes it worth it even if you'd have to replace them often. The bigger issue I have is the lack of strobing on oled monitors and TVs is really a bummer I don't see the point of using OLED for gaming without strobing/BFI modes. Shills tells you that OLED has good motion clarity by default but that's a complete lie.Basically I'd sooner shill you Pulsar monitors (which are IPS) over any Oled monitor because in the end these are clearer in motion than any oled monitor that I know of. Assuming you have an Nvidia GPU and you're not one of these pussies with fucked up eyes that cannot handle a little bit of flickering.but FYI I use my oled TV for gaming exclusively and after about 4 years, lot of which was in HDR full blast and I still have no burn-in. it runs nothing but games and anime though.
>>737116707I have a 65” plasma that is still going strong. I do feel like it’s a unicorn in that regard. It has always buzzed and has always been a space heater, but that is true of all of them. Really is a nice picture. Too bad it was a technological dead end.
>>737116819oleds most definitely have good motion clarity, it's just that pulsars are the best
>>737113974Are you fucking retarded?
For reasons I can't fathom the monitor I got my first prebuilt with has better blacks than my current.Why am I not using it? I have a light bleed going to the right of the screen. Because i'm using 16:10 though nothing else matters except if it's 16:10
>>737116819Don’t a lot of OLEDs have worse flickering issues than pulsar when using freesync/gsync?
>>737117006Yeah of course they do but not in a way that's really noticeable at lower framerates because most of the blur comes from our own eyes. hence the need for strobing.At like 300 or 400fps then yeah it starts to be a clear winner, but that kind of framerate isn't realistic.
>>737102167And now post a dark scene where the Mini LED has bloom out the ass or completely crushes black detail out of existence trying to avoid it. Displaying something like a starfield instantly exposes the limitations of even the best Mini LED displays, because it simply isn't possible for them to only display a point of light. You feel free to argue and cope and seethe and rationalize your purchasing decisions all you like, but you're making big compromises no matter which display technology you buy. Micro LED is the theoretical end to all discussions, but it's been two more years away for the past decade.
>>737117087More likely just poor and owns a shitty budget LCD TV from 10 years ago with input lag out the ass. Keep in mind that you mostly interact with brown third worlders on this site.
monitor panels are such a cursed technology, literally all of them have a major drawback
>>737117323>And now post a dark scene>>737102794>>737101875
>>737080241I bough a WOLED 42" LG C5 in December. It's as close as it gets for my ideal monitor, but I'm looking forward to swapping to better tech in ~5 years.
>>737117434At least you can pick your poison, also monitors are getting cheaper over time which is rare with modern electronics.
>>737117323>Displaying something like a starfielddo OLED fags really?
>>737117202vrr flicker is a complex issue. it depends on the host machine and panel. a proper configured setup wont have it. a pc thats a microstutter fest will experience vrr flicker a ton.
>>737117434If you’re looking and parsing for minor drawbacks certainly. All and all, it’s amazing how good even cheap monitors look these days. The fact that we’re at the point of arguing ms of overshoot on one panel technology vs another is a testament to the range of options there are for anyone’s use case.
>>737117202That's a different issue but yeah oled sucks at VRR, you can see them flicker especially if the fps is unstable or low framerate compensation quicks in. What I'm talking about is strobing technologies that improves motion clarity, basically makes modern displays emulate CRT flicker, that's flickering you introduce willingly so your eyes clears motion blur faster. It's a gigantic improvement in motion clarity and I cannot play videogames without it, but some people just can't get used to it though, and support is limited because nobody cares, few TVs and monitors offer support and if they do it disables VRR (except Pulsar, because Nvidia designed it in hardware in a really clever way but it's not for oleds)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGeM6S_m9pIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXwXGYhi8_I
>>737117202All OLEDs have VRR flicker, it's part of the OLED experience
>>737117202usecase for vrr?
>>737117812If your frametime is consistent you dont get VRR flicker at all. It's largely a PC issue. The panel will ofc flicker if your PC can't keep up as its constantly changing hz aka its not consistent or not frametime stable.
>>737117856almost completely eliminates stutter in games
>>737117856Buying a panel without VRR in 2026 is willingly being a fucking retard
>>737117919it doesn't eliminate stutter. just tearing and vsync input lag.
Meanwhile, Chinese Chads are already enjoying 4000+ zone mini-LEDs and soon RGB Mini-LEDs.
>>737117919I wish it was that simple.It doesn't fix macro-stutters traversal, or PSO compilation, it doesn't fix animation stutters.You are still at the mercy of the developer to not fuck things up.
>>737118238Wake me up when microLED becomes affordable.
>>737080804This isn't the dating thread
anyone claiming W-OLED is better than QD-OLED is a fucking contrarian nigger specially this year with all the widespread issues on the latest gen of LG panels:you don't like purple tint QD-OLED? Asus, MSI, etc are offering no purple tint anti-reflective QD-OLEDS alreadyyou don't want reflections at all? Samsung themselves offer the best matte anti-glare on the market (BUT MUH GRAINY!), it's not for everyone, go check the Apple Nano-Texturethe only fail they're getting this year is not pushing for more ultrawide models, the 49" 1440p update is coming but their 5K2K panels are expected to only arrive in 2027 at the earliest while LG releases theirs for a retarded price + the same QA problems as the previous ones
Is burn-in in the room with us right now?
>>737080241I dont have the sun shining on my displaysI have 4 monitorsC5 42271QRXG PRO 27iPG279QC5: best overall since it gives me 4x 1080p realestate and even at daytime the screens coating makes black look like a void271Qrx: best for shooter, dont get purple on blacks (i never do anything where the screen is entirely black either neither does anyone else in here) because the sun doesnt shine directly on my displaysMiniled: blooms out the ass and bad eotf in hdr and local dimming is kinda slow in sdr and i have to turn it off for anything not gaming related otherwise i get blooming or inverse bloomingSmall things in hdr dont get bright at all like small candles ald lights, fireflies, fireworks, led lights, headlights etcOverall hdr performance is kind of mid, most movies have a low overall nit count in hdr so c5 wins in terms of highlight details, for daytime games its a bit brighter but also oversaturated and my eyes strain after 2h (no cant adjust brightness on these minileds in hdr) and the screencoating is really ass because it makes very bright things have a grain effectPg279q: a generic normal ips with a max nit of around 400 i run it at 17/100 glows out the ass in dark content
>>737118946My LCD is at 47k hours. Report back when you reach that number
>>737118946that's only like 3-4 months of use broski, a year if you're a giga hyper casual I guess?
>>737119287>>737119164Imagine self amitting youre obese nolifers with 0 friendsLet me guess your os of choice is linux and your gpu is a rx480
Apparently 4000 dimming zones in mini LED is considered a lot, but that would make backlight to essentially have the resolution of about 84x47.
>>737098118no, just be utilitarian and use whatever works and that you like, they all suck anyways and anyone that says otherwise is a shill
>>737117856The only 2 things it does is giving you vsync without the input lag penalty, and it's ability to have variable framerates look smooth.It doesn't smooth out stutters, just floating framerates.So that's great but imo vsync lag is overblown, nvidia reflex or amd anti lag usually will offset the input lag, and you can just avoid framerate drops by having a good target fps and change your monitor refresh rate to that target framerate. Which is a hassle admittedly. so VRR is a no brainer in general but if I have a good strobing mode and it disable VRR in order to work I will never hesitate dropping VRRAnd it's worth nothing that just because you have VRR that doesn't mean you should turn off Vsync. The tech has a limitation where it stops working entirely if the game's framerate is within 3-4 fps of your monitor's max refresh rate. So if your have a 120hz max monitor, if the game goes over 117FPS then VRR will simply stop functioning and you get slight stutter (because 118FPS isn't exactly 120) and you get tearing as well. If the game goes way over 120 you'll still get stutter and tearing too. The way to avoid this is use Reflex or Reflex + Boost or the game doesn't support Reflex you can forced ULLM in the nvidia drivers ("Ultra" in the "Low latency mode" section) and all of these should automatically cap the framerate inside the VRR window, or you could also decide to cap the framerate manually to 3 or 4 below your max refresh. But games handle better in general if you activate Vsync anyway and if you do everything else right you're not gonna get the vsync input lag as long as the fps is inside the vrr window.
>>7371195964000 is when people can't tell if they are looking at an OLED or a mini-LED
>>737093572Yeah it did, I dunno what to tell you Love the curve, big discount, works on my machine
I have a 271QPX and I only see this when I put my lamp on top of it. I don't think if your place is too bright and the sun likes it a lot you should get OLED in the first place. A cool thing is that there's barely any noticeable text fringing
>>737119771Only applies to daytime scenes. Show fireworks or stars or tiny lit candles and you will be able to tell cus miniled cant light them up bright enough
>>737119730Vsync should be on in the driver and off in the games
>>737080241I got miniled. On-demand OLED performance without any of the downsides, also 3x cheaper.
>>737119164>>737119287>>737119592Sorry, I only have enough free time on weekends
>>737119730>So that's great but imo vsync lag is overblown, nvidia reflex or amd anti lag usually will offset the input lagIf you know how these work, you want to use VRR. VRR is the only technology in the last 10 years display wise that I could say is a direct upgrade. The only problem I see with it is flickering when framerates fluctuate a lot in certain panels (OLED for instance has brightness flickering). HDR as a technological advancement in displays is absolute chaos in comparison.
>>737120089>On-demand OLED performance what does this mean? it has worse contrast, colors and motion clarity still great monitors though
>>73711977140k to 80K zones to remove halo completely
>>737120089>300€ miniLED 4k240Hz 32"What model?
>>737120214>32" 4k>on a desktop PClol
>Check out TCL 50Q7C TV for the whole family>Apparently "it's a really good TV bro I tried it next to an OLED TV and it beats the fuck out of it except for a few darker scenes">No matter the settings it looks like absolute fucking dogshit>Blooming to no end
>>737120089>no downsidesYou can tell he bought a chink va panel with smearing out the ass and he cant display the desktop without turning off local dimming and he cant enjoy a dark hdr game because it zone flickers and brightness does nothing in dark scenes on minileds under 6000 zones>>737118986this is the only honest post itt
>>737120273Yes, I think it's a solid choice.
>>737120273Rajesh here on his cupboard desk cant use a bigger display than 19" aww so cute his rx480 cant power more anyways
>>737120305I never turn off HDR or local dimming, it looks great and doesn't have smearing. Why are you so angry?
>>737080241love me lgc2700 nits after 3 years. no burn ins and i've left this tv on overnight way too many times. probably will get a lgc5 in the future when i upgrade the PC
>>737119730>The tech has a limitation where it stops working entirely if the game's framerate is within 3-4 fps of your monitor's max refresh rate.The tech does work up to the max refresh rate of your monitor. The problem is once that is exceeded it turns off and you will experience tearing. If you have vsync on in your global settings, then the driver will automatically switch from vrr to vsync when achieving or exceeding the same amount of frames as your monitor’s refresh rate. The problem there is that this comes with a stutter and noticeable latency increase as it switches back and forth between the technologies. Because of this, best practice has always been to have VRR on, Vsync turned on in global settings (but off in the game’s internal settings), and then frame limit the game 3-4 frames below the monitor’s maximum refresh. The 3-4 frames isn’t where the tech stops working but the buffer needed to make sure vsync never gets activated.
>>737120420>it doesnt have smearingRecord ur monitor scrolling a dark mode page like twitter with gray text on a dark blue or gray background>i use hdr all the timeOh no no no hes a retard
>>737120491Be aware that diagonal dithering lines in darker tones on c5 are real. They aren't too bad and don't bother me much @120Hz, but I understand it wasn't an issue on older panels.
>>737120838I'm sorry you are too retarded to set up HDR properly so you can use it with SDR content.
>>737080241Monitors are literally a jewish humiliation ritual. Every single type of monitor sucks for one reason or another. OLED? E-waste after a year, can't stay on desktop, can't use Office, can't use HUDs in games. IPS? Fucked up in the dark. MiniLED? Grey halos, unreadable text. VA? Get out of here.
So what is the point of OLED again?
>>737121084Guess who lobbied to have SED erased for cheap LCD screens?
mini led fans are incredibly annoying holy, where did these dudes come from any why are they so intense
>>737121084you are allowed to have more than one monitorand in the real world all you need is an oled for most things and a bare minimum 1080p 60fps ips for everything else
>>737121273OLED fags are way worse in comparisonAt least mini LED fans are speaking facts, OLED fags just invent head canon about mini LED technology
OLED fags are the definition of buyer's remorse.
>>737080241I just bought cheap monitors because I only care about refresh rate.>t. uses a 3.5 monitor set-up
>>737121347>all you need is an oled for most thingslike what? watching movies? everything else gives you burn-in
>>737121043>he thinks using sdr gamma ramp works in actual hdr>avoids my smearing request>loves blooming boxes around white text
>>737121365oled fags have been around for a while, but i haven't seen mini led autism this strong before>speaking factsive seen several people itt claim mini leds are superior in ways that are completely disprovable, and you're probably one of them considering this post
>>737121548watching shit and playing games is pretty much everything where the monitor's quality mattersstop headcanon coping about burn in, you haven't used an oled enough to know what it even looks like
>>737121554I don't think you've ever owned a good mini-LED monitor, anon, and you definitely have no idea how Windows 11 handles HDR and color.Post your hand, and I will consider your smearing request.
>>737121698I've used an OLED for a few days, but had to return it because of how dim it was.
>>737121751NTAi know W11 is better for HDR, but what do you mean "and color"?
>>737121365>oled fags are annoyingDont see oled fags constantly talking about their displays, only get miniled and tn fags making threads 24/7 saying how bad oled isReally makes you thinkIts like the rx480 faggots making threads saying you dont need more, also miniled fags are self reporting no life losers that only browse 4chan 16h a day its why they cant imagine using an oled because their desks are so small they can only fit one display, ironic considering 99% of users who work from home have atleast 3 so you immediately know miniled users dont do that. Also 99% of gamers sit in a dim environment or a pesk lux of around 200 so they dont need a 1000 nit fullscreen display (no one does) and no game or movie is going to blast 1000 nits fullscreen regardless. Bf1 commonly used for hdr testing in games average 80-100 nit din hdr. The brightest element is the sun and that averages 400-600 nits on miniled and oleds alike
>>737121084>VA? Get out of here.What exactly the issue with VA? While they had the same disadvantages as all the other backlit panels they were faster than IPS while having comparable parameters otherwise so all high refresh panels were VA. AT least that was true back when I bought one.Though I will have to say, mine broke after like 1,5 years. I had it warrantied and it lasted another like 2 years. Not sure if they did have reliability problems or I was just unlucky.I have an oled now and it looks nice but yeah, the burn in meme is really a thing. Well you can't tell in normal use, but if you put on a light gray background you can tell which places burned in.
>>737121845>sir oled is dalit, i can't redeem them in my roofless mumbai callcenter
>>737121186Why left is limited to 250nit?
>2026>Humanity wages another war>On one side OLED Imperium>On the other side miniLED Kingdom>*Dramatic music*>War, war never changesBoth sides are ruled by the same person.This is how I feel about this thread.
>>737121891Your monitor can show very bright and very colorful colors (wide gamut)When HDR is OFF: Windows ignores that and stretches regular colors to make them look extra vibrant, but it's actually too saturated, not accurate.When you turn HDR ON: Windows clamps (restricts) normal desktop/games back to the proper, narrower color range they were made for.
>>737121893>Dont see oled fags constantly talking about their displayslol
>>737092431input lag?
>>737121969It's at its max brightness, mini-LED is just that bright.
>>737122021damn maybe i should finally make the jump to 11. i have an OLED but rarely ever use HDR because it almost always looks dogshit
>>737121751I literally said i have a g pro 27i and every review of every miniled even the latest va models have smearing on text against dark backgrounds aswell as blooming or inverse blooming when ld is enabled in desktop, ive used one of the ktc or koorui va with 1156 zones that people oraise but it was worse than my g pro 27i since that was a va and had more noticable bloom/inverse blooming boxes around white text and icons against dark backgrounds and scrolling text was like vaseline and it never proved better in anything hdr (actual hdr not converted sdr to hdr pajeet shit)
>>737080241>OLED>AMOLED>POLED>WOLED>QDOLED>LGBTQOLEDSHUT THE FUCK UP STOP MAKING WORDS UP IT'S ALL THE SAME FUCKING SHIT IT'S JUST A FUCKING PC MONITORFuck I miss when it was either TN or IPS now it's all these flavors of the same queer crap that exist to make nerds think they are unique and special
>>737121915>va faster than ipsThis guy is trolling>>737122046This thread was made by a miniled fag.
>>737122176>i miss when the choice was between piss and shit rather than the nitpicking contest it is now
>>737122176>enters thread about monitor technology >proceeds to complain about people discussing monitor technology are you unwell?
>>737122173Windows does not convert SDR to HDR.
>>737122249OLED fags have been constantly advertising OLED here 4-5 years ago saying that burn in is not an issue anymore
>>737122091No, it is 250nit. Please show woled/tandem with 600-800nits
why are mini-LED fags shilling so hard on this thread when tandem woled shits on every perceived advantage they claim to have over previous gen qd-oled
>>737122176Theyre all different though>>737122021Thid is why people dont like hdr becsuse they want the oversaturated colors of sdr
my chinese mini led just werks and if it ever dies I'll get another shrimple as
>>737122249He actually wasn’t wrong back around 10 years ago. VAs were faster.
>>737122271It simply was easier back then, it was a poorfag (TN) vs richfag (IPS) thingNow it's like fags choosing what made-up gender flag represents them>>737122289There is a board for being an annoying nerd about technology >>>/g/
>>737122058TVs always have some "gaming" mode that limits the post processing they tend to do otherwise. Also I don't think input lag cased by the display is that significant part of it. Unless you are a hyper competitive CS player or a speedrunner or something minimizing input lag is going to make much of a difference for you. Or maybe I'm just retarded with my old man reflexes.
>>737122332Windows literslly has an auto hdr option retard newfag and theres rtx hdr which converts sdr to hdr are you actually braindead or something? And windws desktop in hdr with sdr gamma ramp is not going to give you accurate eotf when you actually run a native hdr movie or game
>>737122347>600-800nitsOLEDs can't reach 800 nits in non full-screen brightness tests, 250 nits is the max brightness for an OLED.
I will wait for the OLED fad and shills to pass just like I did for the mechanical keyboard and specifically ducky shills. They also claimed dumb shit like their keyboards would last longer or that they it makes you type faster. Cult shit like OLEDfags and they will go extinct in due time too.
>>737122472lmao fucking hall monitor loser, you don't even have the power of a janny. this is video game related and you can cry harder
>>737122498>Windows literslly has an auto hdr optionAuto HDR does not convert SDR content to HDR, you tech illiterate monkey.
What TV (48-55 inch) would you recommend without spending an arm and a leg?
>>737122587Strange bait.
>>737122587aren't basically all "gaming" keyboards still mechanical? when did that "fad" pass?
Have a pg32ucdm never had an issue with it
>>737122453Vas have never been faster than ips in response times their total response times even today id >20msAn avg of 4 with a total of 30 is worse than an avg of 6 with a total of 10>>737122347Esl much?>>737122536That screenshot isnt fullscreen its like 15% a modern woled monitor does like 800 nits at 15% apl>>737122606Yes it does you retard it literally says so
>>737122587>mechanical keyboardbut everyone who isn't a complete poorfag uses them now
>>737122667Sorry ducky went bankrupt.>>737122682No. Tons of lower end gayman keyboard still use membranes and even midrange use custom keyswitches that are inbetween. But the point is that people realized you don't need a mechanical keyboard and it doesn't a really improve your gayman or typing speed or even last longer than membranes really.
Some of these OLED keyboard warriors ITT are making me reconsider buying an OLED...
>>737099807maybe 15 years ago
>>737122790well mechanical keyboards weren't a fad at all, they're still mega popular. mostly just because they feel good to use, i personally dislike the feel of membrane
>>737122790All gamer keyboards here at $25 and up use mechanical what third world do you live in?
i am addicted to treu blacksmy 1300 dollar rog oled monitor makes me cum
>>737121915VA is disgustingly smeary. It's literally a third world technology at this point.
still rocking this badboy today
>>737122656I bought TCL 65" Q6C last year, but I don't know if the smaller sizes come with the same panel.~650€, I saw 55" below 400€.For a cheap chink TV it's alright, even OS isn't as bloated as I expected but I mainly use it as a dumb display and don't touch the smart functions.It's still smearing because it's a miniLED VA but at that price it's ok.
>>737122876Canada. The lower end logitech keyboards and smaller brands use custom switches or membrane. Most casual and kid gaymers just pick them off the shelf.>>737122862The custom branded keyboards like ducky were definitely a fad. People realized they don't improve your gamking or typing or last longer at all. Whay really got them popular is cheaper options coming to the market, unlike the overpriced duckyslop.
>>737122790i went to my country's most popular tech site and searched for "gaming keyboards", 172 results were mechanical and 12 were membrane. why are you just making shit up?
>>737122536Again no, please update your database related to the 3rd gen and tandem oleds
>>737122973>tn
>>737123070>ducky i don't even know what that is and it wasn't what I asked you about. you said mechanical keyboards in general
>>737081881the only worthwhile upgrade beyond a 1080p ips 60Hz monitor is a oled one, everything else is losers engaging in dick slapping.
>>737122790>Sorry ducky went bankrupt.Salsa on that?I'm still enjoying my 50€ chink mechanical keyboard.One of the better purchases, recently I also bought wireless lightweight chink mouse. I like it a lot as well.
>>73712318124" monitor just feels a bit smalland don't tell me you use 1080p 27", that PPI is awful
>>737122249>>737122453I did say at the time and I think it was a less than 10 years but probably something around that. Back then TNfags still existed and whined about IPS being slow and VA was sort of considered best of both world at the time. Though as I understand IPS has gotten much better since while I suppose VAs didn't so they are mostly obsolete now?
>>737081881Crt monitors outside of weight were actually the peak and we have been trying to get that same experience without it weighing 40 lb minimum
>>737123273i use a 27 1440p ips monitor but used a 1080p one for 15 years before that.oled is good but not worth the price for a monitor imo.
>>737080241I don't play in the dark like a subhuman american goy so I don't need an OLED
>>737122790People liked mechanical keyboards just for the sound and feeling. Nobody said it. Made you better at gaming lol
>>737123285VAs have absolutely gotten better in the last 10 years. I know because I have one from back then and another from last year. The old one you see smearing even when you arent looking for it. The new one you have to look for smearing and its unnoticeable otherwise.
>>737123373>muh priceQuintessential thirdie post
>>737123373at least they're getting more affordable, i got mine for $600 on sale
>>737123159I was referencing ducky in my original post. No need to spergeout, ESL.
>>737123491>not wanting to spend lots of money on something you deem pointless = poorkk>>737123507ye, i'm just cheap.i have oled handhelds, just don't care about getting a oled panel for my monitor.
>>737123421Nah tons of shills claimed the actuation time and feel made you type and thus game faster. Also tons of claims they are built better and last longer than membranes. I could even go back in the archive and find you those posts but you will probably just say they are trolls.
>>737099425Wrong to call it a bug in the game if it has nothing to do with the game if the TV restarts.
>>737123286My gripes with CRT monitors, I still use one as a secondary monitor for nostalgia reasons.>Power hungry>Make you think you have tinnitus>No VRR>Small screen size compared to the volume>Flicker is quite bad at low refresh-rates ~60Hz>Require adapters to work with modern hardware>Bad contrast in well lit rooms due to low overall brightnessI still with I had 21" CRT on my desk instead of 17".
>>737122973>Anon finally gets a date to come home with him>She sees that monitor and remembers she has to get up early next day
>>737122587>just like I did for the mechanical keyboard and specifically ducky>Tons of lower end gayman keyboard still use membranes>But the point is that people realized you don't need a mechanical keyboardnice goalpost moving but this is a written conversation, we can see what you typed
>>737123821>Anon finally gets a dateyou're a funny guy
>>737123523here >>737123846
>>737123731True it's not as perfect as I said but it's wild there's a 15 year gap where the most common TVs had fucked blacks and input delay when that just wasn't the case before
>>737123846Ducky was mentioned right here >>737122587Strange ESL seething brownoid. You must have spent a paycheck on it lmao
>>737124097are you retarded? you said "mechanical keyboards *and* specifically ducky". that means both you retard, i included it in my post i really hope you're not EFL, because if so then you need to study your own language
>>737124254>Didn't even deny he has a ducky keyboardThe absolute state. Sorry your overpriced shilling didn't work and most gamers these days use cheap custom switches or even membrane.No more (You)s.
>>737116404>Micro-LEDit will never become a thing, its more probable that burn-in becomes a 10-year-down-the-line issue or miniled with rgb backlights having near-oled contrast than micro-led becoming affordable
>>737124316holy fuck he's literally retarded. no i don't have ducky, my mechanical keyboard cost me $50 lol
>>737124330all of the miniled shilling involves it being a stopgap until they can get microledi heavily doubt anyone that cries over oled pricetags will want to spend more on one monitor than what a lifetime of oleds would cost
>>737124316also>most gamers these days use cheap custom switches yeah those are mechanical, which you claimed were a fad you moron lmao
>>737124004Even late CRT TVs, had bad input lag.Monitors never had this issue tho.New high refresh rate miniLED LCDs aren't nearly as bad as early ones.I have no idea how faggots could play shooters or any action games @30FPS on a 50ms+ display. With a shitty controller on top.Dark times.
TN fags: theres no need for anything else, gamma shift? I NEVER MOVE MY HEAD EVEN 1 CM UP OR DOWN EVERVA fags: theres no need for anything else, smearing? DOESNT EXIST.IPS fags: theres no need for anything else. IPS glow? DOESNT EXIST I CANT SEE IT YOU CAN ONLY SEE IT IN PHOTOS IN A PITCHBLACK ENVIRONMENT AT MAX BRIGHTNESS!1080p fags: theres no need for anything else its the best performance and no one can see the difference anyway1440p fags: 1440p is the best middle ground its better clarity than 1080p and better performance than 1080p and gives me more realestate4K fags: its like 1080p x 4 in realestate and I can play at any resolution I want thanks to its high PPI, DLSS4/FSR4 or just use integer scaled 1080p or just set the game to 1440p with no real loss of quality MIniled fags: OLED BURN IN BURN IN BURN IN I NEED 1000+ NITS AT ALL TIMES EVEN WHEN BROWSING THE WEB AND ALL I DO IS BROWSE THE WEEEEEB IM BROOOOOOOOOWSING LOOK AT ME BROWWWSINGGGGQDOLED/WOLED monitor fags: Well I want zero response times because blur and ghosting annoys my eyes and I dont need high fullscreen brightness Ive been using less than 150 for like 20 years (crts were around 60-80nits, TNs back in 2000-2010 where like 120-150 btw) and burn in isnt an issue for me because I have other monitors for my non-gaming/entertainment use so I can just swivel my chair or move my head or eyeballs to do other things, its a non issue!
Can some Anon bake another bread once this one hits page 10?Pretty please?
>>737124316Yeah I think most people use mechanicals these days because they are cheap. No one is using the OG shilled keyboards like razor and ducky. There's just no reason to given price-performance.
>>737124592Everything was funny until WOLED line. t. WOLED user
>>737124897But Anon, he didn't even mention VRR flicker or dark grey color banding.No need to get mad.
>>737124998WOLED user here, my C5 42 doesnt have any color banding on dark gray and my 271QRX doesnt have any banding on any color, so you have to specify.My C5 42 doesnt get any VRR flicker either, I have 3k hours on it with gsync enabled (+ vsync) at 144hz, my 271QRX does get some in cyberpunk but thats the only instance ive seen it, and only at night times, and guess where it occurs: in dark parts of the screen, not the entire screen, its less noticable than VRR flicker on my G Pro 27i where the whole screen with rapidly flicker, even my pg279q will flicker in loadingscreens, while the G Pro 27i will even flicker during zone transitions of lightsources in dark content and thats just because it doesnt have more than 1156 zones, minileds with bloom suppression might mask it more but it will overall give a dimmer brightness to small lights than one that doesnt have bloom suppression, most VAs use blooming suppression
>>737125308WOLED monitors ≠ WOLED TVs
>>737082072truth nuke
>>737125403if by woled monitor you refer to the tandem woleds that had reddit threads about the banding issue on mostly gigabyte and asus models, (many of which had it almost completely eliminated after ~100h of use) then its a lottery not really a panel issue
>>737123615>lots of money>a monitor (max 1500 bucks)Quintessential thirdie post 2
>>737125486I would say it's a panel issue if the variance is this bad.I still understand it's bitching for the sake of bitching.I'm still tempted to get 32GX870B or similar monitor, but those are delayed. LG should also stop using nearly identical names for completely different monitors.
>>737125452>glossylmaolol evenkek even
>>737125985what's wrong with glossy?
>>737126043bait or retard call it
>>737126043I don’t like gaming with a mirror
>>737126181Turn of the lights.
>>737126181>>737125985>he doesn't have smart bulbs filtered. I wont try to convince you why glossy is better, everyone who knows knows. t. owned OLEDs for over a decade
>>737126161so no answer >>737126181anon you're not supposed to have lights facing the monitor. i never ever see a reflection
