>>737415338
That would be equivalent to a cunny being sent to epstein island

>>737415487
If he's useless, he's emprah food, if he's useful he becomes a sanctioned psyker.

It could be worse, enslavers or chaos gods rapes his ass.

I tried Rogue Trader recently and for some reason I was surprised when I got to the ship crash. Seems the Imperium (or at least that system) just shoved them in ships to expedite them to Terra. On paper it's efficient, but why the absolute fuck would you want to be on a ship with hundreds of pissed off and terrified psykers? Especially when you're that much more susceptible to wrap terrors.

>>737415742
The Black Ships have Sisters of Silence to, well, silence the warp around them, they're blanks that casually eat the Wrap around them and render most psykers null

>>737415742
>why the absolute fuck would you want to be on a ship with hundreds of pissed off and terrified psykers
absolutely nobody wants to be on these things and the crews going completely insane from the black hole of despair being generated from the mass of prisoners is a regular hazard

>>737415615
to what degree is a psyker powerful enough to feed to the fat e but useful enough to bother keeping around uneaten? whats the metric? the rubric?

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>>737415338
yeah whatever i got myself a wife

>>737416039
I think it's the difference is like eating a small rotisserie chicken every meal or eating a whole turkey in a day. The most potent psykers get spared because they can be of use to the empire, the less talented/weaker psykers become sacrifices. If the Emperor only gorged himself on strong psykers, then you could probably whittle the number of daily sacrifices to something like 250 a day, but life is cheap in the empire, so that's just a waste of talent.

>>737415338
You're in for a ride, but as raw as the deal is, you're getting a better one than the guys that don't get soulbound. Why do they not simply gather a bunch of Zeta class psykers and sacrifice them all in the confines of a gellar field and combine their souls into a new alpha+ like Big E?

>>737416039
Iota, Theta and Eta is when people start exhibiting obvious psychic activity. You would need to be at minimum a Zeta to avoid being fed to the Emperor.

>>737416558
Are zeta niggas really that plentiful to just gather enough to even manifest a piece of space jesus

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>>737416057
Where did this idea of muscular and chiselled/beefy tau girls come from? Isnt the consensus that tau are all shit at melee and need to specialise in ranged only, it's been a meme for over a decade

>>737416897
Zetas are the ones that get trained into sanctioned psykers and deployed all over the place, they're pretty common enough that they have a reputation for exploding on the battlefield. Two grades up from that is Delta, and they're like one in a billion. Give it thirty years and you could harvest enough Zeta grades to populate a small city.

I guess the real question though is what grade the funny shaman psykers were, they were apparently something else before they seppuku'd themselves to make E Money.

>>737416558
That idea is retarded and asking for intervention of several groups. Eldrard and his Farseers tried to do that shit and got slapped by the Deathwatch.

>>737416930
They're actually slightly physically stronger than humans, they're shit at melee because they don't have the mental discipline or the brutality that humans do.

>>737417163
Do it in the Imperial palace, most secure place in the galaxy.

If emperor is good, why doesn't he stand up

Good news, you're not being sacrificed
Bad news, you're a phone now. We're going to need your eyes

>>737417216
It's not leg day yet

>>737417194
There's buttload of Sisters of Silence in the palace and I doubt anyone will allow that shitshow since it'll change the status quo, especially the bananaboys.

>>737417168
That’s retarded, should have just made them weaker.

>>737415338
So they kept this guy on life support without knowing he could resurrect after death. Poor guy lol

>>737417242
Obviously status quo breaking, but you'd think some well-meaning radical inquisitor out there would make the attempt to recreate an emperor-like psyker just to address the possibility.

Who would win?

1 emperor of mankind, or 10 trillion renamons?

>>737415338
Nice. When you get to the imperial palace remember to post ttrpg related threads on /tg/, not /v/. Have a safe trip!

>>737417486
He would breed them all, no matter how long it took

>>737415615
>>737415910
>>737415974
What was Emps using the black ships for before he got Horus'd? They're mentioned in some books but I don't think its ever been expanded upon about what he's actually doing.

>>737417168
I always figured it's because their leadership is """enlightened""" and thinks melee combat has no place on the modern battlefield and don't bother giving Fire Warriors even the most basic melee training. Unfortunately this is 40k where all guns literally cease functioning if an enemy is engaged in melee with you.

>>737417665
Just because he's not eating them doesn't mean psykers weren't still incredibly dangerous when IN control of their powers. He probably had a shit ton trained and even more killed when he was alive.
Current numbers might be a reflection of the decay of the imperium.

>>737417705
They prefer to let the Kroot auxilliaries do the melee since they love that shit, Fire Warriors don't get much training for that reason. It's an extension of their caste specialisation philosophy.

>>737417452
There was a cardinal who tried to do that, but thanks to his experiments one of the psykers got out, killed a bolter bitch that forced to involve an order of bolter bitches to the cardinal's planet tracking the down the psyker who wants revenge against the cardinal and ending badly for psykers and the cardinal.

I forgot the title of the novel though. It's one of Sororitas novel/anthologies.

>>737417665
the psykers aren't for him, its for the golden throne to function

>>737417665
They powered the astronomican. He literally had a great big psyker torture chamber inside mount everest for it, presumably that's still going on somewhere below the imperial palace.

>>737417705
It's a balance thing. In lore fire warriors are just a bit shorter than humans but practice martial skill and majority of conscripted humans are a half starved hive worlder with next to no training.
Still beat fire warriors with a bayonet when most of them have a sword.
Why?
Game balance into lore. Who cares?

>>737417341
Aliens are just built different bro, kinda like apes. A chimp is physically stronger than a human, but physically incapable of throwing a proper punch. Muzzle a chimp and put it's hands in boxing gloves so it can't latch on, and I'd imagine even a regular untrained guy could probably knock it out with a couple dozzen well aimed punches in a boxing match. The dumb chimp would be completely helpless because it can't fight like it knows how.

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Jesus christ, look at those stats. I haven't seen an accessory this broken since SOTN.

whats bigger cancer: waifufags or text to speech fags

>>737417961
in lore it has a decent chance at making you immortal, balanced by the fact it also has a very good chance at making you a nigh unkillable man eating monster

>>737418035
It's no chance, the user will turn into a man eating monster once the halo device is used. I'm more surprised Fabius Bile hasn't got one of those to use for his experiments.

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>>737418035
>a chance
No it actually does both. Once that thing bonds to a person they are basically immortal, but they WILL turn into a monster eventually.

>>737418136
some of them don't have the monster side effect. thats why people risk using them

>>737418172
Like chaos aligned monster?? Or some entirely separate not warp related abomination?

>>737417168
>mental discipline
What kind of mental discipline do we have for melee?

>>737417839
>>737417840
Huh? So he was feeding them to the throne he wasn't using? To somehow power the astronomicon?

>>737418241
It's not warp shenanigans, it's just tech from a long gone xenos race.

>>737418015
Neither are anywhere near as bad as anyone who got into 40k by 8th ed.
Like even diehard fans used to seethe with contempt at GWs poor decisions but now there's nothing but bad updates for years yet the fandom has this wild feel good fervor.
Just go into /tg/ archives and watch the weird change your self from fans and disgruntled fans actually discussing things both good and bad to just brand zelots lore checking each other as if wikis don't exist

>>737417168
>They're actually slightly physically stronger than humans
Retard. Even your typical bitchmade anon here could solo Taukek in melee.

>>737418015
What if you are a 2nd ed grognard but still enjoy TTS because it's actually funny and pulls most of its lore from older canon?

>>737418136
>>737418172
wrong, it has a small but decent chance of giving you immortality with no strings attached, that's why people take the gamble

>>737418268
The astronomican doesn't run off the throne, it's just a psychic amplifier (pain engine) and life support system. You could torture huge sums of psykers to death every day in one spot and still have the astronomican work, it's just more efficient to feed psykers to the emperor and have him personally generate it along with keeping the webway shut.

>>737417934
>chimp is physically stronger than a human
Kind of. Pound for pound theyre stronger, but theyre also like 110lbs max in nature.

>>737418371
To be fair I don't think anyone hates the first couple of eps of TTS. It's when it starts to be more alternative canon over "hey what if the emperor knew what's going on lol" that it starts to lose it's luster

The real horror is the primarchs coming back is a joke in that series and reality now

>>737418457
I was drifting away from GW as a whole during the whole HH thing cuz its just all so gay, and then they brought Guilliman back and I just checked the fuck out. To me TTS is the most stable and sane version of 40k around because it at least knows taking this shit serious is not the point

So if Eldrard calls a black human money do they get cancelled?

>>737418264
The mental discipline to not fumble around with your weapon and panic. Tau units lose morale in melee faster than equivalent Human units, that's why they have the Kroot do it and stick to shooting. The Tau are a case study of overspecialisation, they're bred into castes and they specialise into specific roles on top of that.

>psyker
What a stupid name

>>737418696
Let's hear your idea for a name

Remember! Everything that happened is part of the emp's plan! Also, he is just a perpetual with decent mind powers!

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>>737415615
nigger if you're not psychic chaff you're 99% likely to become an astropath, aka a glorified mailbox. you will be hooked to a choir of other poor bastards and forced to gaze at the empyrean trying to receive and decrypt messages sent by other choirs, until you either go insane and are quickly executed or simply crumble to dust. it's like working in a call center, 24/7, 365.

>>737418696
Worlds better than drew carry for the evil space elves

>>737418939
Only if your psyker powers trend towards telepathy (the most common), the best deal you can get is to be cursed with divination psyker powers, because then they just make you read imperial tarot.

>>737418673
Man, the Tau are so gay and boring, why are they shilled so much?

>>737419063
WHAT DO THE FUNNY SYMBOLS MEAN!? WHAT DO THEY MEAN!?

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>>737419101
Mecha is pretty much all they have going for them

>>737419101
>why are they shilled so much
They're not? You only see pornfaggots spamming shit here and on /tg/. And guess what, they're not real fans.

>>737416039
they need to be able to do shit, be sane enough to actually control it well enough to not be an instant daemon onahole, and not to powerful to risk loosing control over

>>737418939
>>737419063
Sanctioned psyker > battle psyker > astropath > battle psyker (forma de fodder) > sacrifice.
Most sanctioned psykers are just magic dudes who got to see the emperor for free and have a guaranteed job as some Noble's pet. Battle psykers get the joy of fighting until they die and astropaths are sanctioned psykers but for planetary governors or ship captains but their job is to be an answering machine in all cases.

>>737419101
Tau would be cooler if their coalition of alien races thing came up more. A bunch of different xenos designs for each unit and battle mechs would rock
Unfortunately GW are cheap bastards so we got some birds and one unit of bugs and 3 different flavors of tau in nearly identical combat armor.

>>737419210
>You only see pornfaggots spamming shit here and on /tg/.
Ah, I see.

>>737419257
>who got to see the emperor for free
This usually sears their eyeballs out of their sockets or causes some other crippling deformity, so it's pretty raw, but not as raw as getting plugged into a pain engine and having your soul siphoned away to power the astronomican, which is apparently a slow, agonising death beyond any real description.

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>>737419101
GW got spooked by gundam and anime in the 90s and tried to cater to that audience like the out of touch boomers they are, while diluting the atmosphere and fucking up the lore in the process.
everyone was doing that, to be fair. suddenly, every mascot for every brand wore sneakers, unbuttoned shirts and t-shirt underneath, reversed ball cap and sunglasses while skateboarding.
>see kids? we're cool and fresh and hip and whatever, buy our product!

>>737419413
I'd take those days over now. 9/11 hadn't happened yet.

>>737419374
>>737419413
40K should have stopped with
>Space Marines
>Imperial Guard
>Eldar
>Orks
>Chaos
>Tyranids

>>737419101
At least tau have something of an identity as opposed to the leagues of vottan.
It's crazy they somehow managed to make space dwarves lame and gay

>>737416057
she seems to be at a dangerously low bodyfat%, very unhealthy, needs more calories

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>>737419632
>space dwarves
The Squats are back after 35 years of amnesy?

>>737416057
>"This is my wife"
>Look inside
>Your wife is strongly implied to suck off not only other humans, but a vast number of other xenos
Are you so brainrotten that you can't even have a pure, loyal, loving partner within the bounds of your imagination?

>>737420128
Leagues of Votan. They're gay as fuck. I haven't really looked into it but I heard they're like age of sigmar dwarves, so mercenaries who like to trade

>>737418909
Better than
>chaos has already won, everything was chaos all along

>>737416930
Anon, the people you're questioning are coomers.
They don't care about anything beyond its utility as a masturbation aid.

>>737420306
Yes, taufags are insane.

>>737420128
>>737420315
They have interesting lore in that they're vatt clones with an ancestry fetish and are uploading themselves on death to "be with their ancestors" that the machines are breaking down from being flooded with copies of what is 99% the same person. It's a fun little idea which of course has zero impact on the tabletop side and there's no fun stories with them yet since they're new.

Also they released broken as fuck which had the model line do gangbusters only to be patched into useless and so no one buys them anymore

>>737420449
Hmm ging it the old gatcha treatment huh? Everything released super op so people snap it up

>>737416057
I'm still not sure I understand how the Tau became the faction favoured by the coomers.

>>737420521
If you haven't played tabletop in a while don't. It's such an obvious skinner box. Each update is just making the low selling models OP and then nerfing them with an errata after the first tournament.
Turns out going full digital codexes was actually the worst thing that could happen for the games balance but boy does it print money

>>737415338
>emporer is a perpetual
>has to be put on some weird life support machine and eat 10,000 psykers per day

i dont get it, why dont they just let him regenerate like vulkan?

>>737420676
he's sitting on top of Magnus' fuckup.
If he gets up it opens up and warp swallows Terra

>>737420630
They were memed as the weeb faction in spite of being Chinese and the space elven ninjas with katanas and guns that shoot shurikens and mechs being there forever.
So the website looked at them and started drawing coomer shit. Occasionally broken up by SoB cooking or the rare dark Eldar Cooming
For some reason no one cares about howling banshees ever since the lore introduced male ones. Can't imagine why!

>>737420676
Horus hit him really, REALLY hard

>>737420745
Yeah but the Custodes fought that shit off the first time, surely they could hold it off until he gets back to full power so he can come up with a better fucking idea other than being a dead corpse on a toilet.

>>737420821
Or even deploy a bunch of chapters to stave it off until he he's healed.

Is it even possible to patch the hole?

>>737420636
Eh I actually just bought my first box, dark angels combat patrol, just looking to get into it as a hobbyist, just paint them up and get a display case etc. I got space marines fiorst because they seem the easist to paint but some of the new IG models look amazing. Probably want a box of sisters of battle when I get good enough.

>>737420904
There's cheaper models to paint but you do you. I despise GW but their model line is nice looking at least. Can't write rules for shit and their lore is getting very retarded very quickly but hey, models and paints are pretty good if overpriced

>>737420821
Its not like anyone has an idea how long hed take to return, it could be months, could be a fucking millennium, custodes arent holding shit for that long, even if they could, dont they only care about the emperor? theyd probably fuck off to leave terra to its fate after any number of custodes die

>>737419531
tyranids were already a stretch. the fa/tg/uys at nottingham saw alien and figured they could make a cheap copyright free knockoff and then put a giant NO STEAL label on it as they usually do. i still find tyranids goofy as fuck and have a very low opinion on the people playing them.

>>737421147
Waht would you recommend? I got the combat patrol for 200 dollarydoos on ebay inculding postage.

Why don't they just let the emperor die?

Wasn't it stated he would be reborn or something in a more powerful state?

>>737420676
The throne is the opposite of a life support machine, the thing actually drains his health
As for why they don't remove him, the astronomican "blinking" off for a couple of minutes caused unimaginable losses to ships in transit, perpetuals usually require hours if not days to regenerate
Also also, the emps being alive is the only thing keeping the miniature sun that blocks the Eternity Gate from spewing deamons nonstop into Terra
>>737420821
they barely could managed a fighting retreat, it doesn't matter how good you are when the enemy is literally endless and come as large as a knight

>>737420630
People got bored of the Eldar.

>>737421407
Everybody is bored of the Eldar, Even GW

>>737421273
Oh there's dozens of model kits by millions of manufacturers. After doing 40k for a while I realized I could just paint snap gundams and it went from $50 tanks to $20 Gundam kits. Now I wish 40k tanks cost $50 again.

But seriously just go online, look at other table top games and just get models you want. Most will be cheaper and about the same quality. Blkout and infinity have some cool units. I got an Rtype model a bit ago that came with paint that was really cool.
Also look at kickstarter weirdly enough. It's become the place for small number model runs.

More over look into 3D printing because the amount of free models available to download print and then paint are dizzying and it pays for itself in no time.
Unfortunately it got me into blender to modify models so that's a new hyperfixation I didn't need but hey.

>>737421585
>Even GW
Considering GW's latest stuff, maybe that's the best place for Eldar to be.

>>737421407
They're inherently boring outside of their sadistic fetamine addicted brethren.

>>737421602
Oh that's what you meant. Yeah its tricky because the GW ones are really good in the modern day and you can get them cheap on ebay. Its probably a good place to start at least and then maybe branch out later. Trench crusade is certainly getting a lot of hype.

>>737420630
They're uninspired poseur xenofuckers.

If you're going to go so far off-model and off-lore you could 'reimagine' the greenskins as Amazonian Ork Grlz. Shrugging off las-volleys, as they storm imperial guard trenches. Pinning guardsmen to the ground and riding their dicks until they pass out from exhaustion. Tying the naked, twitching bodies of vanquished foes to their bodies like trophies as they move onto looking for their next FUK.

Twist the Tyranids hunger into something more carnal. Now they're obsessed with integrating genetic material from powerful species. Biosculpting their infiltrators into avatars of desire perfectly calibrated to their targets tastes. Globally deploying tailored aphrodisiac viruses across to cause planet-wide orgies. Entire planets converted into seedbed nursuries for new hivefleets.

Turn the Necrons into silver sexpots that use their hypertech and reality bending c'tan shards to enslave and rule as gods over the filthy organics. Have them outwardly act cold and arrogant, but internally yearn for the warm flush of life - leading them to become increasingly obsessed and infatuated with their human captives. Inflicting all manner of perverse procedures upon them to experience the sensation vicariously while maintaining the pretext of 'experimentation'. Alternatively, set up a story where a soulless necron warrior gradually gains more personhood by interacting with a human prisoner whose cell she's guarding, culminating in her falling madly in love.

Dark Eldar except they survive off pleasure instead of pain. Planets by raided by punky babes who shoot you with a un that makes in orgasm 10 times at once, strip you down, then stuff you inside an extremely tight BDSM Sack filled with other naked, deliriously horny victims. Sexual gladiator pits. People being modified into living sextoys. People having their sensitivity amplified by 1000% and then teased until their minds melt out of their ears.

Chaos, except horny.

>>737421602
>40k
>Basic box of Marines
>10 models, 2 units
>160p total
>Every model has the same loadout with no wargear options except melee weapons for the Sergeant (this is actually a downgrade lmao)
>$65
Meanwhile
>Starcraft
>Basic box of Marines
>9 models, unit size is 6 or 9
>Point cost starts at 160 and 210 respectively, box includes upgrades that can increase points to 270 and 350 respectively
>Box comes with a slew of wargear to represent the upgrades, as well as a clear plastic 'effects' sprue for muzzle flashes
>$45
It's astounding how ridiculous 40k's prices are compared to other games.

>>737421995
Akshually necron warriors are just robotos. There's nothing there, just an empty husk following basic routines.

>>737420821
>Yeah but the Custodes fought that shit off the first time
The Custodes, and the Sisters of Silence, and the best of the Admech barely managed it, they took massive losses in the process, and the only reason that fight ended at all was because Big E put a star in place. All four chaos gods were sending their biggest and baddest guys right in that breach, and they're still waiting outside of it to try again.

A harlequin once set foot on Terra and got the immediate impression that E Money and the four Big Bads were lock in stalemate in that one spot so long they were "ossified".

>>737421405
>The throne is the opposite of a life support machine, the thing actually drains his health
It was, he's started healing and moving around lately. Whether that's because his powers are peaking or the throne's failing is unclear.

>>737415615
Doesn't Emps put the souls of all the Psykers he noms into an afterlife entirely sustained by his will?

>>737422141
The only reason they can is because they have huge prestige, but it's falling off now because most prospective new players can't break the hobby's starting costs.

>>737422141
Who cares about Starcraft?

>>737422249
If you can breach a webway hole the way magnus did, surely there's a way to fix it as well right?

Wouldn't an alternative be to abandon Terra and just let it be consumed? Is it really that important outside of the bureaucracy being present there? Are there resources and shit being mined?

>>737417665
Probably just shooting them once they've been evaluated as not worth training instead of putting them in the snack bowl.

>>737422356
Not sure they get an afterlife, but he does have a legion of the dead made of literally every human who ever died in his name led by a guy that might be Ferrus Manus.

>>737420676
He wasn't just mortally wounded by Horus, his claw was infused with the power of the 4 and would have killed him permanently without the Throne

The Throne (webway) was also constantly shitting out daemons thanks to Magnus inadvertently breaking into it, hence why Big E sat there throughout the siege of Terra and why Malcador sacrificed himself to buy Big E one final time

If Magnus didn't break Big E's webway, the siege would have been over in a few days since he would personally lead Terra's defenders along with the full might of the Custodes; instead Magnus' fatal mistake sent 95% of the Custodes to their deaths fighting a bajillion daemons inside Big E's webway where most of them would die

>>737422151
Yes. I know.
But within the context of coomer material, it doesn't matter.
It just needs to resemble the source material and seem somewhat plausible.

Imbuing a sexy, submissive personality into a soulless automata through the sheer strength of your godly animal magnetism is absolutely a concept that coomers would eat up.
Vaguely handwave the specifics away as some warp fuckery, something like the human soul imprinting on the object and resonating with the meager programming within.
A coomer can suspend a lot of disbelief, all you need to do is make up some bullshit that makes sense if you don't really think about it.

>>737421256
But thanks to the nids we got Space Hulk, which I really enjoy.

>>737418136
I think whatever alien tech/magic is extremely opposed to chaos corruption, halo devices do nothing to chaos tainted people, otherwise I'd love to see Lucius have one attached and see what happens.

>>737418375
Insane vampiric space cockroach hands typed this post.

>>737422416
It could be fixed, but not while Big E's keeping it shut with a literal actual star, which is the only thing keeping an endless horde of daemons out. If Terra were abandoned, the Eternity Gate is assumed to explode into a new Eye of Terror, they'd have to blow it up with the talisman of seven hammers (which they can't Vulkan has to be there to activate that) along with the Emperor and everyone on the planet (too many to evacuate). It's pretty critical because, yes, all the bureaucracy is there, along with everything else of critical importance. There are basically no resources left, but they still mine gemstones and shit from the mantle apparently.

Horus Heresy made it pretty clear, sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your enemy from winning.

>>737419374
While I like the Kroot, they were a mistake to make the primary T'au Auxilary. You have a dozen auxilia species but the most well known and popular one is the aliens who can radically change their bodies to fit numerous battlefield roles, thus making most other auxilua redundant outside if aesthetics.

>>737419531
Add Necrons

>>737421327
There's too many variables and unknowns if Emperor dies. Best case scenario he becomes the literal God Emperor that average joe worships. Worst case scenario a new Eye of Terror opens with Terra at it center, his webway collapse and chaos floods a good chunk of the galaxy for the nth time.

>>737422712
No.

>>737422564
Halo devices don't make you completely indestructible, they just prevent natural death and most forms of damage, if you stuck one in Lucius and fired him into a star, and then felt smug about it, you'd still turn into Lucius.

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>>737422384
Well it's looking way more interesting than 11th Edition right now.

>>737422748
No the idea is you stick one in Lucius, jump into a star and watch the alien consciousness and chaos try and overwrite each other forever.

>>737418287
Who would win? Peak condition Tau from Fire Caste OR some cancer riddled Necrontyr?

>>737422770
As much as I hate Starcraft and its unoriginality, Tyranids will never beat a Hydralisk's design

>>737422837
>Give Lucius a Halo Device
That's gotta be pretty high up there on the list of worst plans conceivable by man.

>>737423109
Yes, but funny.

>>737423109
Lucius is a fucking jobber. It's just Slaanesh reviving him for shit and giggles knowing he'll never git gud against the person he jobbed against.

>>737422857
In a straight fistfight, probably the tau, but one is the most gullible race in the setting and the other is reigning backstabbing champion.

>>737423085
The Tyranid design is kinda crippled by it's execution of it's bioguns. While more well done among it's newer artillery creatures, to this day I find Gaunts with their SMGs and Warriors to look odd. Also not crazy about the hooves bit that's sort of a legacy thing at this point.

>>737423191
Yeah the chaos mortal champions start looking a bit shit when you realise they're just getting free do-overs whenever they lose.

>>737423191
So let's give him a Halo device?

>>737423301
I feel like the experience of Chaos Warriors who spend most of their time in the warp should ve presenter more like a fever dream, particularly those heavily aligned to a specific God. Kharn or Lucius shouldn't really have a clue what's going on day to day. Abbadon arguably shouldn't be cognizant about which Black Crusade he's on, just stuck in a looping dream of uniting warbands and invading the Imperium.

But then I don't really like that Abaddon exists as the character he is as opposed to the Galaxies most recent Warmaster of Chaos

>>737423438
He'll job even harder. That's two layers of job bait to nameless shitters.

>>737423628
That sounds pretty cool actually, I think there was at least one short story about that, chaos dude was just in constant flashback mode, he'd kill a loyalist and mentally be in the siege of terra, then he'd see his arm was a tentacle and that would fast forward him to when that mutation first happened, then he'd end up thinking it's the crusade and talking to some random cultist they mutated and shoved in power armour as if he was a long dead brother from that era.

is malal or malice canon?

>>737423951
No, stop asking!

>>737417934
pretty sure Tau were stated to be weaker

>>737423951
Not yet.

>>737417934
Tau are physically weaker than Humans.
The strength power scale goes;
Orks > Eldar > Humans > Tau
With Tyranids being at or above Orks depending on some variables.

>>737424512
depends on the nid of course

>>737422416
Presumably doing so would require Emps to project, at bare minimum, a tzeentch juiced Magnus’ worth of power and concentration to the break to get it done. This would be a colossal task considering A: We have no idea how long the process would take to fix the problem, B: there’s one short fuckton of daemons just waiting for the smallest lapse in his concentration to slip through and murderfuck earth, C: it could very well kill him through psychic strain, and D: a conscious move of that magnitude on his part might convince the gods to either send their primarchs or, worse, try to make a move personally in response to avoid losing the stalemate. It’s unlikely the four would make a personal move depending on whether or not the nature of the webway cucks them, but a gaggle of daemon primarchs in conjunction with hoards of daemons could well and truly be a problem, especially if Magnus enters the game. Weedy, back broken nerd or not, he’s still the second most powerful human psyker alive and is practically pulsating with tzeentch juice on top of that.

>>737422416
The beings that made the webway have been dead for over 65 million years, the Eldar, the only beings in the universe to be even remotely close to understand the thing, have no fucking clue how that shit works and can at best lock down pathways when daemons or whatever monstrosities that inhabit it start crawling out of control but they sure as hell can't do that when its tunnels are full of them
The Emperor was working on trying to figure that shit out but Magnus koolaid maning into it put a stop to it

>>737424775
>>737424936
I see, thanks lore anons. Truly is grim dark.

>>737416897
The Great Rift splitting the galaxy has also contributed to more humans awakening psyker powers and warp powers being able to be used more easily, with associated risks like daemonic possession increasing too.

>>737424936
>the only beings in the universe to be even remotely close to understand the thing,
The Emperor DID figure it out. He was literally a few days away from starting the full colonization and settling of the Webway, intending to clear out the Eldar stragglers and fix the place up aince those pointy-eared retards weren't going to do it.

The webway isnt half as bad as the warp right?

>>737425259
It was pretty nice until the Eldar fucked it up royally. With some effort and elbow grease (neither of which seem to be things the Eldar have) it can be fixed up.

>>737425401
The warp was too a nice place, I mean "place"

>>737425437
Tje only reason the Webway is bad right now is because there are paths in it that now lead directly to the Warp in the wake of the Eldar fucking up. Once tbksr get fixed it's basically perfect.

>>737425401
Eldar can't fix the webway because it's a psychic construct through the Immaterium. It requires immense psyker power to build and the Eldar can't access their old psyker abilities because Slaanesh would eat them if they did. Emperor could do it because he's the Anathema

>>737425921
>Eldar can't fix it because [they're weak and pathetic]
Yeah that's basically the jist of it.

>>737423216
trvke

>>737422249
Big E didn't put a star there, he manifested himself as one burning the daemons or some shit. He closed it by shutting off the generators and starved the portal of power turning it into a solid stone wall.

>>737417223
>Fuck yo fatha
>Fuck (you) nigga! You're a phone!

>>737419210
how do real fans drawfag the tau?

>>737425921
the only thing your corpse emperor can do is decompose

>>737426541
They don't. Tau and Eldar don't have fans who like them for their lore or actual designs, they have fans who like them for porn or ganeplay reasons.

>>737416057
I bet she swells up and explodes (non-lethally) due to her space bovine physiology

>>737426541
Battlesuits only

>>737426632
he made a bunch of harleys shit their pants amongst other things, he definitely seems to be doing way more than the entire eldar faction

>>737426721
Fucking kill yourself bombfag

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>>737426681
Let's not use "how fans draw them" as any sort of barometer

>>737426681
>Opinions of the terminally online

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>Breaks into your palace
>Claims to come in peace with a message for the emporer
>Kills dozens of custodes
>Only one survives
>Gets imprisoned and interrogated
>Delivers the message "CHAOS IS THE REAL ENEMY"

How did this shit get approved?

>>737427145
>>Kills dozens of custodes
Those were Lucifer Blacks, not actual Custodes.
When the actual Custodes showed up they butchered the clowns.

>>737427145
>Kills dozens of custodes
This part didn't happen

>>737427253
No they killed both and it was extremely stupid. They encountered the lucifer blacks in the outer palace. Specificially Lhaerial and Bho slaughtered dozens of custodes just by themselves.

It's absolutely retarded. A harlequin probably could go 1v1 to a custode but not a fucking squad.

>>737427495
>A harlequin probably could go 1v1 to a custode
Lol no, a Custodes would beat an entire squad of clowns without breaking a sweat.

>>737427145
Cegorach is just having a laugh

>>737427528
Custodes and Harlequins are equal in the lore. Basically racial counterparts of each other.

>>737427528
Well canon says custodes got their asses handed to them so not sure what else to tell you.

>>737427495
No they didn't, and no they can't. They fought, but none of the custodians were killed you dumb eldarboo. The most that happened was that the harlequin whose pov we were following had comments that custodes were graceful, but still pushed through the air rather than cut like the eldar.

How can we fix Tau? They're such a nothingburger faction.

>>737427578
>>737427610
Again, the Harlequins didn't fight the Custodes initially. When the Custodes arrived they absolutely massacred the clowns down to a single woman who got stunned and pissed herself looking at the Emperor's psychic shadow.

>>737427619
>NOOOO IT DIDNT HAPPEN BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BELEIVE

look retard i think it's stupid too but it literally happened in a book

>>737427619
>eldarboo
lol

how do i drawfag the necrons?

>completely ddifferent recounts of the same book
Stop looking at wikis you retards just read the book

>>737427729
No, sadly he is correct.
>The Adeptus Custodes waited for them, opening fire as they ran down the vast processional way. Hard projectiles of metal whined past them, shot from the tips of long-hafted weapons as heavy as Lhaerial herself. Primitive, as all the technology of the humans was, but deadly. Just one round, were it to hit, would obliterate her slender body.
>They did not hit. Lhaerial wove around the bolts. Bho fired from behind, his screamer cannon punching the genetically enhanced warriors from their feet. They were too mighty to be felled by the shot itself, instead dying painfully as the gene-toxins in the shrieker rounds rewrote their life code explosively.
>‘Stop, stop!’ she called out in their ugly language. ‘My name is Lhaerial Rey,’ she continued, ‘Shadowseer of the Ceaseless Song. I come here at command of Eldrad Ulthran to deliver a message of great import to the Emperor of Mankind!’ Only murder dwelled in their hearts. A giant moved to intercept her, his great halberd whirling in buzzing arcs around his head. This one moved with a grace and speed she did not associate with the humans. She fought ferociously with him, trading parries and ripostes like for like, the sheer strength of the human shocking her. She saluted him before she took his head from his shoulders. ‘Friendship! Friendship!’ she cried out, Gothic’s coarseness an affront to her tongue.
>More of them came at her, shouting angrily. That she was swinging her sword at them probably belied her words, she thought ironically, but she refused to die for their idiocy. She called out as she killed, over and over again. ‘My name is Lhaerial Rey, Shadowseer of the Ceaseless Song. I come here at command of Eldrad Ulthran to deliver a message of great import to the Emperor of Mankind. Friendship! Friendship! Cease your fighting!’ Bho shot down the last of them.
There's more, but too much for one post.

why do harlys match custodes and dark eldar make chaos marines shit their pants yet neither of these space elves get that much figs or content? what's the point?

>>737428021
Thanks anon I was gonna search through Throneworlds to find some excerpts.

Maybe now these fags will just accept the horrible writing GW did.

>>737428101
Yeah, Guy Haley is uhhhh... You know.

>people actually reading the books and talking about the books
Did anything cool lore-wise happen in those Tau or Ork books last year? Anything cool so far this year?

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>>737415338
Damn man.
Going up several levels in just a week, that's pretty impressive. You do deserve the invite.

>>737428208
Lol no, the only books that matter now are Marine books.

>>737428208
Still working my way through them, do you have the slightest idea how many books there are? I have been at this for twenty years. TWENTY GOD DAMNED YEARS!

>>737428021
i remember reading this back when the books came out; custodes jobbing didn't perturb me but what did are the eldars retardedly walking right into the throne activating every fucking thing including the mini titan pair just to say whatever the fuck they said kek
one memorable scene before that though is one of the eldar feeling the emperors aura the instant she touched the ground, which was a pretty cool moment

>>737428208
Doubt.

>>737428232
Yvraine and Eldrad are Gamma tier at absolute highest, if we're being lenient.

>>737428208
No

>>737428232
How the fuck is Eldrad now Alpha+ and why is Njal a fucking A? lol

>>737428335
*not

>>737428371
Eldar a piss weak psykers next to Humans, anon.

>>737428260
Too many. It's kind of hard to sometimes look and see what is even releasing and when. I read a lot of scifi/fant so I'm always reading other stuff regardless.

>>737428236
>>737428286
>>737428310
Lol okay that's fair. Man what's with that shitty /tg/ general which behaves like every other general on the goddamn website and accuses you of not interacting with the source material if they don't? i.e. "I don't read any books so you don't either!"-logic

>>737428279
They were there on Eldrad's orders to tell the emperor "Hey, don't lose to the Orks okay? Chaos is still out there" It was really fucking dumb, but there was an implication that Eldrad sent them on purpose to get killed because the Custodes did end up killing the clowns to the last surviving member. In all fairness, these were fresh Custodes, made after the Horus Heresy, none of the remaining companions with actual experience were involved with this.

And yep, the whole troupe shit themselves when sensing E Money.
>Crushing the sensation of the dead of the Earth was the titanic presence of the Corpse Emperor.
>Such power made Lhaerial’s mind reel, and for a moment her contempt for the creatures of Terra wavered. The mind of the Emperor was a mountain in the surging madness of the Othersea, blinding in its brilliance. The Great Powers circled this place like razorshark waiting out the death throes of a void-whale. That terrible presence held them back, and all His little servants were ignorant of it! Unease gripped her, that she would be noticed by the Dark Gods or their defier, and the fragile flame of her being snuffed out.
>The feeling passed. The regard of the things of the Other sea was ossified, so long had they fixed their gaze on the Earth. The Emperor did not shift His regard. His attention was elsewhere, upon the blinding pyre of souls, navigation beacon of the mon-keigh. She had no indication she was seen. There was little relief in that. She had laughed in the face of She Who Thirsts, but the Corpse Emperor filled her with a sense of dread.
>Few among the eldar could stand to be in such a place. To the left and right, she saw her fellows go through the same stumble and recovery, their sensitive minds disturbed. When the dance resumed, their steps were heavier than before.

Funny how the greenskins have the better deal all things considered
They don't think why an ork can't do cause they forgot how they did it the first time

>>737427528
Custodes are an entire squad of "Potential Men".

>>737428021
>She saluted him before she took his head from his shoulders. ‘Friendship! Friendship!’ she cried out
Pretty much summarizes Craftworld/Harlequin Eldar

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>waiting for Boltgun 2 while engaging in zero Warhammer products (but occasionally masturbating to r34 material of battle sisters & female imperial guards being corrupted by chaos forces)

>>737428903
For me it's LewdAnon's Eldar.

>>737427729
No, Anon. Custodes got their ass kicked. Keep in mind they DO get “new recruits” though so it’s a good chance the Harlequins despite normally being evenly matched were newbies.

What I’m saying is they were likely Femstodes

>>737428903
>Shartgun

>>737428903
the first one was shit, level design and enemy ai/variety was trash as a game

>>737428692
>The orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which know no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We eldar who have failed, or the humans, on the road to ruin? We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.The orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which know no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We eldar who have failed, or the humans, on the road to ruin? We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.
From Kultur vs Culture.

Tracks that a bioweapon made to thrive on endless war would be the happiest in a setting of endless war.

>>737428942
*fighting newbies

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>>737419101
Big guns.

>>737428232
>Enture Tau race
>Sigma.

Retarded list

>>737428942
And these are palace guards shortly after the horus heresy, they aren't wearing their armor.

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>>737428460
Eldar are "weak" because they handicap themselves with limiters so Slaanesh doesn't eat them. Unshackled Eldrad does all the goofy Alpha+ shenanigans like stopping time.

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>>737415338
I saw this thread in the catalog and that image gave me a flashback to this sovlful music from jeremy soule

https://youtu.be/H-6dKVNt1C4

>>737429145
>Unshackled Eldrad does all the goofy Alpha+ shenanigans like stopping time.
Never once been proven, and like all Farseers his visions always end up being wrong.

>>737428947
>Doltgun

>>737429191
Wrong again fuckboi. He predicted the Horus Heresy and the Tyranid invasion before they even reached the milky way.

Why Eldar didn't wipe Necron out before the fall?

>>737429191
The man predicted 40k after killing a bunch of human perpetuals that were clouding his sight, which ironically may have contributed to it happening

>>737429413
Too busy doing drugs, raping each other, and being overall degens much like many people on the internet.

>>737416930
T'au literally engage in government controlled selective breeding, and are required or at least highly encouraged to keep fit and healthy for the sake of the Greater Good.
I would be surprised if there was larger part of the T'au that WEREN'T in good shape.

>>737429413
Cost of directly assaulting all of the Necron strongholds that contained all their super weapons + Ctan vs just letting the defeated race who was already going into hiding en masse do that while the Eldar kept an eye on them.

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>>737428968
Far from perfect but I still enjoyed it.

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>>737428021
>Primitive, as all the technology of the humans was

>>737429413
Because they're stupid.
Literally 90% of the issues in 40k can be traced back to "The Eldar are stupid fucks who let this happen"

>>737429413
The galaxy had basically been destroyed, everyone who was left was fucked up except the krorks. The Necrons fucked off to their hidden stasis tombs and the Eldar were too busy managing the Krorks to deal with them. Presumably by the time they'd finished culling the Krorks so much they became Orks, the Eldar stopped considering the Necrons a threat since they'd seemingly fucked off. Eldar can't see tens of millions of years into the future, so it was basically like the Necrons just dropped off the map.

>>737428518
>Custodes, made after the Horus Heresy
wat

>>737429413
the necron had weapons and ctan then they had less weapons numbers and ctan so it was supposed to be possible to get rid of them but eldar are well....dumb as fuck

>>737429569
To be fair to this, ever since we figured out how to throw rocks, our military technology has just come up with more and more elaborate means of throwing rocks. Like nearly all power generation being about boiling water to turn a wheel. If it works, it works.

>>737428303
Well Eldrad is quite competent as a battle-psyker, but his true strength lies in precognition and foreknowledge of events; in this aspect Eldrad is considered one of the most powerful of the current Eldar. Certainly not Gamma, but in the Alpha-Beta tier imo.
As for Yvraine, her connection with Ynnead - plus her ridiculous psykic feats - easily place her on Alpha+ tier (at least).
>>737428335
I'd say Njal is nigh as psykicly strong as Tigurius.
>>737429007
The Tau as a whole have weaker souls than the average human, but are not as weak as to be considered Blanks. So yeah, it fits.

>>737429413
Nobody actually knows.

>>737429569
well yeah even dark age tech is nothing compared to ancient eldar tech and the like

>>737428518
They try to hard to glaze him desu, it's neat to have the eldar get dazzled and humbled but they ruin it by going on about how few eldar could even survive being near him.

>>737429685
Most of them were killed in the War for the Webway when Magnus did an oopsie, and they do replenish their numbers. Custodes creation post-heresy are obviously not personally overseen by the Emperor, but the process remains. Not many details on that though apart from the genecraft working on every individual cell rather than being organ transplants like the space marines.

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>>737429736
>Like nearly all power generation being about boiling water to turn a wheel.

>>737429819
You have to remember that the Emperor wasn't always this powerful, he was substantially less powerful before Moloch, and the throne itself acts as an amplifier, and on top of that by the time this happens he's being directly empowered by the worship of countless trillions of human beings who are becoming progressively more and more psychic. He is basically steps above an Old One by now, and the Eldar never reached that level of psychic might.

>>737430020
There's really not a lot we can do about it, boiling water is like 90% efficient, that's hard as fuck to beat.

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>>737423085
I believe that the Trygon/Ravener are literally Hydralisk rip-offs (the designs are from 2001 compared to Starcraft in 1998).

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>>737430081
I always thought converting heat into steam to spin a turbine is one of the most inefficient things you could do.
at least in hydro you use the raw force of water rushing down to turn the wheel. steam just sounds to inefficent.

>>737417961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaS-pxWDfpY

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>>737430081
Water is such based molecule

>>737430348
>at least in hydro you use the raw force of water rushing down to turn the wheel
And how did the water get up there?
>well you see, the sun evapora-

>>737430296
The Horace heresy

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>>737430439
>And how did the water get up there?

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>>737422356
Nigga those souls are literally eaten by the astronomican or the golden throne to keep him alive. There is literally nothing left to put in an afterlife. Everything is consumed

>>737430484
Man I hope you don't have an electric stove, because...

>>737420630
The tau coomers are secondaries. Canonically tau women don't look like the fanart those coomers spam. We legitimately don't even know if they have breasts, because zero official art of tau women has shown them having tits.

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>>737421585
It is funny how our resident eldar hated just wholly ignored the fact that GW has been releasing stellar new Eldar kits, the latest ones came out just few months ago.

>>737430515
The ones that get soulbound stay with him in part it seems, Guilliman could sense Malcador in the Emperor when he went for a chat and daddy got his psychic freak on.

>>737422428
Not every human, just the important ones. Mostly spess merehns tho. The legion of the damned. Effectively emperor's lesser demons/actual angels.

>>737422770
Why the fuck are the spines coming out of the shoulders on that top left hydra? That looks retarded.

>>737429413
They tried but the galaxy is a big place and eventually they moved on to more entertaining activities.

>Many of their tomb complexes had been destroyed, whether by natural disasters or the vengeful attention of the Aeldari, who had sought out Szarekhan worlds with particular venom.

>>737430708
That's how they've always fired.
In SC1 they had big weird vents on their shoulders that would open up when attacking. In SC2 Kerrigan had the vents removed and the spines would sjmply griw and be fired from the torso, since she didn't care if it hurt the Hydralisks.

>>737425921
Eldar do still maintain and repair the webay on some limited extent. The issue is more to due to just how much fucking work properly fixing the entirety of the webway would entail than outright inherent inability to repair it. Commoragh is dependent on the Dark Eldar being able to maintain and repair the webway gates and other shit tied to the webway that keep the City "intact" and the Dark Eldar avoid using psychic powers entirely so clearly you don't actually need to be a psyker to work on the webway system.

>>737420676
>>737420821
You would need the shadow in the warp to even manage to block all that energy coming from the warp, but that would imply you would allow the tyranids to set presence on earth which is not happening

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>>737430641
Malcy gave the last of his energy to big E directly so he could speak and give his last will to his empire before being enthroned in the pain chair. That's different but it's possible part of the psychic imprint is left in the throne after consumed. Which makes this even a bigger mess because 10,000 years of pain chair + millions of psyker imprints being tied to the throne, big E and the astronomican would make an even bigger mess of what is left of big E psyker presence and if I am not mistaken the astronomican's nommed soul imprints already coalesced into a demigod like being that sometimes shows up to troll the 3 eye niggers and some psyker.

>>737430905
>a demigod like being that sometimes shows up to troll
sounds like tau'va too lol

>>737415910
Blackships have a crap ton of nulls in the walls to silence the warp. The sisters of silence are there in case those fail and they end with a localized warp portal and they have to turn it off or kill some demons.

>>737430964
yea. The tau also formed their own demigod like being in the warp but only after they let humans into their ranks. Basically humans did it on their own.
Apparently the etereals are disgusted by it because they know what's going on.

>>737429569
Yes. Eldar are far more technologically advanced than humanity is. The only race more advanced tech wise than the Eldar are the Necrons and even that is only in regards some elements of their tech, whereas on other avenues like psychic engineering the Eldar surpass even the Necrons, for pretty obvious reasons.

In terms of tech Imperium generally is only above the tau and orks though even with the tau only the best imperial tech is better than tau technology while the orks have some retarded shit like tellyportas and tractor beams that the imperium can't replicate at all.

>>737416057
@_@ emperor forgive me..

>>737430797
Looks fucking dumb given the size of the spines etc. I always assumed that it was the grooves on the head carapace from which the spines were fired, and that is how I am going to model my hydras.

>>737431082
>tau goddess
>actually human
I love it, because the way humans in the tau empire view the Greater Good is not the way the ethereals view it, and the bigger they grow, the more humans they will inevitably take in.

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>>737431153
>>737430797
Getting rid of the SC1 design was a mistake.

>>737431114
DAOT Humans were above the Eldar, even having ships that could nullify Eldar foresight. Humans were starting to take over much of the galaxy and border skirmishe with the Eldar were becoming common, with Humans winning them more often than not. Maiden Worlds were extremely valuable to Humans as well which led to conflcts with Exodites, which DAOT Humans would almost always beat out.
Another 200-300 years and DAOT Humans would have prevented Slaanesh from being born by way of dismantling tbe Eldar Empire.

>>737430554
If it was up to current GW, SoB wouldn't have tits either

>>737416930
Tau are barely shorter than humans and it's believed they have similar base body strength. Their warrior caste would definitely be ripped.
That being said, they were never really trained to do bayonet charges and while "brainwashed" into the greater good thing, the faith in the emperor is stronger so you can have regular guard with heavy chainsaws somehow beat an ork in melee but no tau will ever beat an ork in melee without a battlesuit.
Humans are just way crazier and understand how absolutely fucked up the galaxy is. Tau believe they can still fight it all out by staying clean way out of range of the enemy.

>>737431281
I wouldn't say DaoT tech was above Eldar, but it is implied they consistently fought each other to a standstill purely with just automated armies, to the point they just signed non-aggression pacts.

>>737418264
Tard rage

>>737431114
actually the reality bending bullshit and ctan even out the rest, even the psychic bullshit isnt enough to surpass necron hell they have anti warp shit

>>737430905
I mean, remember during the Plague War when Mortarion killed Roboute but Emp just took over, resurrected him then proceeded to burn Nurgle's garden? Do we attribute that to Emp himself or the god worshipped by the Imperium as Emp?

>>737431281
>DAOT Humans were above the Eldar
They explicitly weren't. DAOT humanity lived under the shadow of the pre-fall eldar empire. The Eldar were entirely unopposed in their dominion over the galaxy before their fall, that is one of the fucking cornerstones of 40k lore. The very reason they fell into decadence that led to their fall is because they faced no challenges or real obstacles for millions of years, leading to cultural ennui and boredom on a species level which created fertile grounds on which the pleasure cults etc could grow.

There is zero lore that backs up the notion that DaoT humanity was in any way superior to pre-fall eldar and the only people who spout that notion are imperium fanboys that can't accept that humanity isn't the hottest shit in 40k.
Your post is basically entirely just fanwank that has zero basis on actual lore.

>>737431389
Even that notion isn't actually backed up by lore. There is scant nothing we know of DAOT humanity, it isn't even known if it was an cohesive and united political entity rather than a myriad of human empires fighting each other and xenos around them. What is known of that time is that the Eldar were the dominant race in the galaxy, and no other race posed any threat to them. This is 40k lore 101.

The nature of the pre-fall eldar empire is also not very well known, but we do know some things, like that it was centered heavily around what became eye of terror, and that their webway infrastructure spanned the galaxy, their methods of terraforming were slow and "naturalistic", creating paradize worlds by just seeding them and watching them develop over millions of years, and that the proto craftoworlds served as trade vessels. The eldar of that time could also essentially reincarnate.

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>>737431201
>let humans in your tau empire
>humans worship the emperor
>convince them the greater good is just the emperor or some shit
>humans, like most races, have the need to put their own faces to their deities (eldar do this as well, so do orks)
>humans end up creating a minor demigod like being based on the emperor mixed with the greater good
>eventually the tau empires grows (lol lmao)
>humans become so numerous in Tau space they effectively create a second emperor in the warp
>tfw you are a blueberry that understand none of what's happening because you have effectively no warp presence
>tfw you got displaced by the humans you were ruling over because they created a god like being on their image.

>>737431629
stop wanking the boring elves brah

>>737431648
The ethereals deserve it, smelly bastards they are

>>737431619
Yes
But jokes aside they are likely both the same. If big E were to return at this point he would be a tremendous mess of a being. Would also end up returning as another chaos god instead of just as big E

>>737428078
Do the Deldar do that? Last I checked as a whole they are the scrub punks on the playground only above the Tau who are now adapting. The main thing is you don't want to be taken alive by one

>>737431661
My posts are based on actual fucking lore of the setting, dipshit. Primarily Eldar and Necron codexes (regarding the pre-fall Eldar empire) and the Asurmen novel which details the pre-fall eldar empire on some detail (like the element of the Eldar being able to reincarnate before birth of slaanesh.)

Where do you source the idea that DAOT humanity in any way surpassed the Eldar?

>>737431745
i was exaggerating but didnt they turn the bat bois to wusses who hate the dark?

>>737431754
>Where do you source the idea that DAOT humanity in any way surpassed the Eldar?
My schizo headcanon that I found on 1d4chan

>>737431754
Oh I am not the guy you were talking to, I just wanted to be a dick kek

>>737431560
Yeah, necrons have anti warp tech and Ctan fuckery. My point was more that they can't really do the psychic engineering bs the Eldar can. Like D-weapons and D-scythes for example are heavily based on psychic/warp engineering due to the way they function. The former opens holes into the warp and tears shit apart that way and the later severes the souls of living entities from their corporeal bodies.

>>737428078
40k is about Space Marines. People often don't realize this because of secondary media like Dawn of War, but the only faction that matters in 40k is the Imperium, with Space Marines being the de facto protagonists of the setting. All non-human factions don't matter beyond being window dressing for Humans to shoot at and slaughter en masse.

>>737431849
the warp is weird

>>737431798
1d4chan, as much as I am fond of it and the old /tg/ culture it was spawned out of, has caused so much seconary retardation to 40k fanbase.
I wish people would just read the fucking codexes. You can just find PDFs of them on the internet, it's not like you have to buy them.

>>737431281
The Eldar Empire is consistently portrayed as overwhelmingly dominant in its time.

>There were, of course, many wars. Even when the galaxy was young there were upstart races seeking to gouge out petty empires of their own, and the Aeldari waged wars against the sprawling Necron dynasties that ravaged dozens of star systems and cost trillions of lives. Most of these conflicts, though, were so short-lived that the ease of their victory left the Aeldari ever more sure of their ascendancy.

>In the wake of the War in Heaven, the stars were inherited by those species created by the Old Ones. Among them were the Aeldari. Powerfully psychic and technologically adept, they came to dominate the galaxy. At the peak of their might nothing was beyond their reach, their powers were godlike and their armies were nigh on undefeatable.

>"Our people ruled the stars when this world was ruled by reptiles. Many came against us – the soulless ones, the krork at the apex of their might, in comparison to which this latest species is laughable, the Cythor and a thousand other races so terrible your intellects could not comprehend them. Even your own ancestors and their unliving legions attacked us at the so-called height of your race. We defeated them all."

Remember they still had their gods at this point, they psykers were not yet nerfed by Slaneesh and their tech was comparable to the Necrons.

>>737431629
>Even that notion isn't actually backed up by lore
It is, the last surviving Eldar in Throneworld makes mention of pre-fall Eldar fighting Man's "unliving legions", and we know that back in those days, the Eldar's war waging was mostly done by their psychic constructs as well. It's not a stretch to imagine most of humanity and the eldar's wars were just fought with robots with not a single shred of skin in the game.

>>737431970
lame as hell, good thing they job now

>>737431973
I meant the whole standstill part. Yeah, both pre-fall eldar and daot humanity fought largely with automated armies, with the eldar wielding psychic constructs and weapons while humans fought using what were most likely the men of iron. The idea that humanity was a threat or a real competitor to the pre-fall eldar however is not backed up by this lore.

>>737431970
That last quote comes from the Guy Haley book where the Harlequins fight the Custodes. It's untruthful Eldarwank from a character who shouldn't even be in the book.
Eldar have never win a major conflict in the history of 40k. The only reason their Empire even lasted so long was because Chaos was waiting for Mankind to reach a certain point, and when it was reached Slaanesh ended the Eldar's "sixty million year reign" in the span of a century.

>>737432098
The lore also makes mention that DaoT humanity signed non-aggression pacts with many xenos races, even before the cybernetic revolt. That would have naturally included the Eldar.

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>>737431970
It is heavily implied by some lore bits that even the Eldar gods started out as psychic weapons, that the later generations of Eldar began to venerate as gods.

>>737432201
jobber numero uno

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>>737432016
>>737432150
Uh oh imperiumfag melty

>>737431970
It makes them look retarded that Necrons(and Orks) are still around. Also you should take every info with a grain of salt when the source is a pleb from the civilization in question.