Do you gatekeep your video games?
It's impossible to gatekeep series nowadays.
>peter>the horse is here
>>737434705I disagree
>>737434656Is this the designated subtle Uma Musume thread? I’ve never played it and never will but it’s a pattern I’ve noticed.
>>737434656You can't gatekeep shit in post-iphone era internet so the question meaningless:a) Normalfags outnumber you to oblivionb) Most websites are run by "You have to play nicely chuds" toxic positivity jannies who won't let you exclude anyonec) The brown and underage demographics straight up don't understand what you are talking about, you have better odds of convincing a brick wall on the necessity of gatekeeping.
>>737434705You gatekeep by being weirder and harder to understand. Maybe try and make the fandom more analogue (pen and paper, no meet ups, no online meets, forum discussions...said forums need an invite"
>>737434705>>737434965If an IP is esoteric enough and/or too niche then its gate keeps the usual crowds naturally
yakuza and metal gear rising are some of the most wide normie appeal games to ever exist. It's shit you would recommend to someone who is completely new to gaming. Same thing with ace attorney lol. what's up with everyone picking the most regular shit to gatekeep and go full elitist on
>>737435215bottom left is the actual problem
>>737434656Revengeance got a sort of revival from memes, made even stronger by the Maxor video. A lot of people have never and will never play it, they just like the funny pictures.Yakuza has turned into a bad parody of itself, but I think that's more internal Sega politics where Nagoshi left and now nobody is around to tell Yokoyama his ideas are stupid.Ace Attorney has always had a pretty small fanbase. There's some people who will jerk off to clown girls and take any opportunity to do so without even knowing where she came from. In general, it's more shocking that there's no AA7 than that some people say stupid shit about it.One of those pictures is for something so fucking shitty it's not really worth considering.
>>737435181it really doesn't matter how esoteric an IP is. normalfags would eat shit laced with crack if it was popular.
>have a cult game>sseth makes a video on it>community is forever ruined
>>737434705This. You can’t stop people from being retards and complaining compels them to act even more retarded
i play dominions so no i do not
I miss PM before it became popular in the west
>>737435363by the time he makes the video you can move on to another game. Rinse and repeat.
>>737435361Normalfags love edgy grimdark ass rape games though. F&H succumbed to the inevitable.
>>737434656me with sonic and zelda
>>737435303Umas was probably the most damaged out of the 4 here though
You can't gatekeep anything in the era of "do you have to play x to be a fan of it?"
>>737434705It's very easy. Just get very angry at anyone who demonstrates a faulty understanding of something you enjoy.
Fatal Frame basically gatekeeps itself, despite the wrenches 5 threw into the works.
>>737435361>grimdark finnish autism one man show gameThis shit was prime 4chinz videogame and somehow normalfags still ended up playing it in droves and making 12 hr pseud video essays on it. Truly can't have anything nice nowadays.
>yeah that company that wants to sell a product for money? >they should have LESS SALES>they should get FEWER CUSTOMERS, they must be LOYAL to MEsome retards seriously believe this
>>737434656You shouldn't gatekeep a single videogame, but videogames as a whole, which is impossible. Normies already infected everything.
>>737434656>Implying mgr wasn't about making memes since day 1
>>737435697Then you get baited by false flaggers.
>>737435768I say this and I believe this btw, if i like a game franchise it must only appeal to me and nobody else.
>>737434656idk if it's gatekeeping but I get into niche anime and stuff all the time like I recently watched FoTNS and shit and when I check their subreddit its complete mamble bamble like WHAT IF SAILOR MOON FAUGHT KENSHIRO WHO WOULD WIN???? like what the fuck are these fuckers talking about. Same with Muv Luv and Subahibi, I'll see the dumbest nonsensical edits and dumb ass questions that I'm genuinely like the fuck? It's not even "normies" what would you even call this shit?
people who complain about normies are almost always invariably normalfags themselves, just more unpleasant and smelly
>twitter tourists talking about gatekeeping
>>737434656i stand by my opinion that the uma fandom should've actually tried being horny for their horses if they didn't want the twitterfags to apply their own fetishes onto ityou leave a gap and the transtrenders will fill it, it's a known phenomenon
>>737435768name one example where mass appeal has benefited both fans and company while retaining quality?
>>737435768>give company money because I like their game and want more games like it>they take the money and make a game not like it in order to appeal to a wider audience
>>737434656imagine you can gatekeep an IP that's being freely sold as a product and that is being used by the youtube slop churn to generate ad revenue might as well yell at the rain clouds to go away
>>737435921Resident Evil and Monster Hunter
>>737435856spergs
>>737435978
>>737435902Porn is what attracts those types in the first place though. Having Maruzensky spreading eagle won't deter it, in fact being an openly horny fanbase attracts ERPers which then brings in the troons.
>>737435856>>737435986bump like im genuinely asking what the fuck is this type of shit?
>>737434656Was this supposed to be a [redacted] thread?
>>737435856someone on tiktok started spamming out new bullshit using media from yesterdecade
>>737435978>Monster Hunterlmao kill yourself
>>737434656Yes, only leftist bootlickers hate gatekeeping
>>737436050Literally just spergs, and probably underage at that. Think about all the dumb, cringy shit you posted on forums or whatever in your younger days. Now apply that to the modern hellscape of reddit, discord, etc.
>>737436050forgot to post. >>737436086I'll see like random edits of Takuji with the isreal flag and shit and I'm like ??? the fuck is this schizo shit. Like I don't know where all these SO RANDOM XD people even come from. I don't even know if they have a term.
>>737436083No
>>737434656I keep the gates open because nobody ever shows up
>>737436026you say this as if blue archive doesn't naturally gatekeep itself through how horny the fanbase is>inb4 it's because of the lolis!then try literally any horny anime fanbase, doubt you'll find anyone trying to pull that shit with roshidere for example
>>737436050Children. It's genuinely just children. You see people talking about how "this app" is bad, memes about swiping images and shaking your screen. The internet is filled with literal children.
>>737435978>genuine question>bait answerName a more iconic duo
>>737435727>not 2deep4u enough to make hours long video essays on like SH>doesn’t have the memes or mainstream appeal of REIt definitely sits in a weird middle ground where there isn’t really any reason for tertiaries to latch onto it.
>>737435921>>737435949You paid for a product but you don't have ownership over the property, the corporation owns it and they'll do whatever they think will squeeze the most pennies outYour problem is letting ephemeral corporate products define your identity
>>737434656my series filtered people over a decade ago and only the truly committed remain so I have very little worry it will ever get significant notice and popularity from the mainstream and turned to shit.
I reckon RE got hit the hardest with a lack of gatekeeping considering it spurred on discussion on whether or not that your only experience with the entire series is watching shorts is enough to qualify as a fan.
>>737434705You cannot gatekeep a series, only the developers can. You can only gatekeep a community space if you have moderator privileges in it to eject people how act improperly. Just shouting at people doesn't work.
>>737434656Friendly reminder hogmophobia and transphobia is not "gatekeeping"
>>737436192millenial parents have failed huh.
Guilty Gear lmao
>>737436151honestly might just be AI coming up with "engaging" concepts We live in a cursed world where we have an attention economy that now awards money to whoever can spam out the most bullshit
>>737435978>Monster HunterThis has to be a joke
>>737436178>as if blue archive doesn't naturally gatekeep itself through how horny the fanbase isYou're right, it doesn't. Neither does ZZZ.
>>737436305I got hogmaphobia the way fat bitches got me shaking and sweating
>>737434656Honorable mention to Umineko. Yakuza really got ruined by pandering to the new fans though, shit sucks. Monster Hunter is on the same trajectory.
>>737434705The Blue Archive fans did a great job at it. Umanons need to take notes.
>>737436307Aren't zoomers the parents now or are people actually at the point where they don't have kids until 30+
>>737436363Yakuza had it's main creative lead and director leave/get fired so it's no surprise it changed gears for the worse.
>>737436083No this thread is by a BAfag that something out for uma or whatever
>>737435303Holy shit fuck Max0r.What an annoying faggot.
>>737434656My video games gatekeep themselves
>>737436402>or are people actually at the point where they don't have kids until 30+You look at the current state of women and dating in general and you tell me
This is gatekeeping
>>737434656Metal Gear and Ace Attorney are dead series anyway. Who cares if normalfags ruin them at this point?
>>737436402Having kids before 30 is throwing away your youth. I'll be picking up my son from soccer practice at 65 making all of the single moms swoon for the GILF
Nothing convinced me that gatekeeping is necessary like seeing the absolute state of all yuri and yaoi "communities" online these days.Almost literally nothing but retarded drama, autistic latinx, and culture war bullshit.
>>737436395>Don't gatekeep>Get animes and a movieI think this is worth more than like 5 trannies on twitter or whatever that I can ignore
>"like" goontarded gacha ""game"">Someone injects their own goontard fetish>Have a melty>Spam everywhere Coomer aus raus!
>don’t use xitter>don’t use plebbit>don’t use tiktok>only use youtube to watch from my curated subscription list instead of whatever random shit the algorithm wants to forcefeed me>would never interact with or acknowledge “fandoms” if I didn’t have to see screencaps from the above places spammed here daily You would all be a lot happier if you stopped going out of your way seeking out reasons to be mad.
>>737435727I've only played the first three. Are any the ones after them worth checking out?
>>737437102It sucks though. I like discussing the stuff I played/watched/read. But everytime I read a book and see discussion online it's just "isn't this LE PROBLEMATICCCC????" holy shit I'm starting to hate americans and europeans so much. And multiplayer/competitive games, I like learning new tech and stuff but good lord I'm going to see some retarded shit in the crossfire. Fuck fighting games.
>>737435810does that matter? it makes the community look unfavourable and hopefully deter normalfags.
>>737436239It has tertiaries shitting themselves over censorship ever since 5's dubious western localization (that in my opinion had bigger problems than that), and for some reason the recent remasters have attracted this small sadgirl tiktokcore aesthetic movement. By and large though, it's trucked on as it usually has.
>>737435753>normalfags still ended up playingthey didn't actually play it but watch some streamer play it with censor patch applied
>>737436240>he corporation owns it and they'll do whatever they think will squeeze the most pennies outLate Capitalist approach, how has that benefited both fans and company if both loathe each other?>Your problem is letting ephemeral corporate products define your identityAll things are ephemeral, so while i linger on this earth i wish to enjoy the things i love that were made with passion and not shareholders in mind.I hate you, anon. And everything you stand for
>>737435768>Won't somebody think about the poor companies???
>>737434705It depends on how easy it is to get into.If the game is very easy, has very inoffensive content, or from an overly popular genre, then it's impossible to gatekeep because people won't be naturally filtered out.
>>737437143Depends on how far you want to go with it. Going past the PS2 is definitely "fans only" territory, kinda like playing Megaman X past X4 but not quite THAT spotty. Neither 4 nor 5 are as good as the first 3 but I think they both have their highs and lows. I think they're worth at least one playthrough each. I liked 2's recent remake well enough, but it does feel a little more "modern" and action-oriented. I wouldn't quite call it an RE4 level leap but maybe like an RE3 to the original's RE2.
>>737437081It's kinda funny how people keep talking about trannies in the community when I literally never interact with any of them.If it wasn't for schizos posting twitter pics here I wouldn't even know they like the franchise in the first placeAnon biggest sin is that they, unironically, can't stop thinking about trannies
>>737435084>You gatekeep by being weirder and harder to understandHasn't stopped anyone
>>737437213>Fuck fighting gamesAt a certain point this is on you for not having the skillset to filter through discussions you don't like. I play Tekken and once in a blue moon someone will pull a "erm guys isn't Lili 16 why can you put her in a bikini that looks like lingerie" and the response near universally is nobody cares. People are much more likely to whip themselves into a frenzy about Murray ruining the balance of the game than anything near the usual "problematic" nature, including the recent Madagascar character with big tits. At most there will be a day or two of it before people move on.
>>737437632this. remind me how have normies ruined Cruelty Squad?
>>737437229In that you might be arguing with a "friend" who's bullshitting you for kicks, a little. Some people just spout talking points from Wikipedia or whatever, but others know their shit and intentionally take the other side because it's funny. I guess if all you care about is deterring normalfags by sounding schizo then none of that matters. It's still a valid tactic.
I just use slower altchansI only come back to this place for shitposting and falseflagging for (you)
>>737436307>On the contrary Snake, the rampant growth of the digital age has become something of a modern-day Pandora's Box.>"How so?">The sheer volume of information available to the masses, useful or trite, has become so vast that it's effectively diluting the human experience. In combination with early access to technologies such as smartphones and tablet devices, new generations of children are missing out on formative experiences. Reading, arithmetic and even socialising with other kids their own age are all going out the window.>To say nothing of the damage done to their attention spans and thinking capacity would be a disservice to my country.>"So why not go to the root of the problem? Take out the tech companies or focus on PSAs for new parents.">Unfortunately Snake, the developing tech industries have their handstoo deep into global politics to effect any change on that scale. Adding to the information problem there's also the issue of misinformation running unchecked, making a unified propaganda campaign impossible>"Propaganda? I thought this was messaging meant for the public good?">Propaganda in the loosest terms, Snake. Nevermind how embedded a computer is in the life of the average person.>"Hnnng...guess the future is looking pretty bleak then, huh?">Grim, but correctable. Our AI-I mean the AI bubble is projected to ventually burst, but I shan't take up any more of your time. You have a mission to complete. >"And I was just beginning to enjoy our chats.">Don't make me order Sigint to make us his 'World Famous Fried Chicken' when you get back.>"Eugh...noted. Snake out."
>>737437919whats a good altchan for videogames and gay furry porn
>>737438139This. I tried using altchans, but none had active threads for my fetish.
>>737437919It's a shame most of the anime altchans are borderline ghost towns, I only really come here for /a/ and /v/ nowadays.
>>737437642>I play TekkenTEKKEN CAUSED ME TO GET DIVORCED AND LOSE MY JOBMURRAY CAME TO MY OFFICE AND TOLD MY BOSS THAT I TICKLE MYSELF TO MY BOSS PICS WHAT THE HECK >At most there will be a day or two of it before people move on.lmfao no it's ongoing, these fuckers NEVER stop.
>>737434656MGR and AA were already dead for almost a decade by the time the gatekeeping failedYakuza went to shit because they changed directors, not because dame da ne became a meme.Gacha is always garbage.End result: Failing to gatekeep changing nothing for those series. Get better examples next time, because they actually exist.
>>737438139>>737438357if he tells you then you'll shit the place. Hence, gatekeeping
the only way to gatekeep nowdays is puting a lot of hot women in skimpy cloth and lolis in your work
lmao /v/ thinks they can gatekeep shit when you're an artifact of the past and the internet is massively bigger today. These franchises also actively DON'T want to be gatekept and actively lean into whatever gets them more popular which is a moot point. Literally all the content is coming from giant orbits of shit like twitter/tiktok/instagram reels in which you're just a drop in the ocean. An autist calling every cosplayer a whore for example isn't even going to touch 0.01% of the audience of people larping Resident Evil with kpop-tier thirst edits
>>737435921Silksong I guess.I'm not saying it's a masterpiece, but despite HK's massive popularity the sequel was still just them doing their own thing at the same level of quality, just with a bigger budget.
>>737437919I've heard this same song and dance since 2014. altfags are crippling attentionwhores who need to go to real dimedrawers to basically soft-self advertise as seen by two april fools ago and every time the site goes down
>>737438974
>>737434705Snowbreak gatekept itself so hard that they banned the devs from using cosplayers to advertise itself
>>737439123I Concur your example. Well done
>>737438686By "it" I was talking about Miary'Zo being big breasted with a doll face. There was some stink about it at first as well as suddenly 50 Madacascar ethnic phenotype experts showing up but it quickly went back to the usual WOW FUCK MURRAY
>>737436402The kids of older zoomies will still be small, mostly. If I had a kid at 20 they'd only be 7 now for example, and the tail end of zoomers are still teenagers. Won't generally be the ones shitting up reddit for old ass weeaboo media.Although even my gen x parents didn't have kids until my mom was 29 since my parents didn't meet until she was in her mid-20's or so. It is what it is
>>737439123Aussies are built different. Halfway through act 2 I was still getting surprised at finding new areas.
>>737434656Metal Gear was over 10 years ago so it didn't matter in the grand scale of things the one who did get fucked were the ongoing franchise like Yakuza
>>737435768There's a point where you go too far. Monster Hunter Wilds is actually a good example. World was decent enough and Iceborne peaked it. Meanwhile Wilds just...exists. I don't know who asked for auto-walk hunts.
>>737434656This usage of gatekeeping is retarded and exclusively used by newfags.Gatekeeping wasn't something done for whole ass franchises, it was something you did on specific social media / social websites (ie forums or literally right here). You don't "gatekeep" fucking Metal Gear Solid, the game series with hundreds of millions in sales and twenty games, because that's a retarded endeavor that would only ever end in failure because a) nobody knows when something will get popular and b) who the fuck are you? If a hundred people showed up to post about something, you want to know what you'd be able to do? Fuck all.Especially ironic part is that before, /v/ saw gatekeeping as the gayest fucking thing on the planet and it's partly why /v/ hates /a/ so much (and also why /a/ is, you know, dead and nobody uses it and all its gatekeeping failed considering the dozen or so posters left do not abide by a single one of the made up rules in pic related).
>>737435921>>737435978Resident Evil is the correct answer. Most of the people bitching about current RE never really played the games in the first place and they prove that everyday.
>>737435978>Monster Hunternigga you retarded
this gatekeeping stuff only popped off with blue archive
>>737440045Most of this is pretty reasonable.Tripfags deserve to be ridiculed and ostracized.
>looks at ffxivhow would you stop that from ever happening again
>>737438374It's because everyone who used /a/ back in the day was already on other sites. Most active posters knew each other through skype groups, if not from other forums, if not through fucking youtube comment sections (or Google+ as it were, back when it was a thing). /v/ is a board full of people you never want to know or meet./a/ (was) a board full of people you've likely already met before.Which is why all altchan /a/s were super failures. They'd have maybe a year or two of decent activity, but quickly die off and primarily exist as pet projects, because everyone who liked using /a/ just went somewhere else with more activity. Plus a lot of them were emblematic of the most annoying aspects of /a/ that nobody liked.
>>737440459>Most of this is pretty reasonable.You're a newfag then, since this got routinely mocked on /v/ back when it was still posted.
>>737440045This website would be a fucking utopia if pic rel had actually worked. But with the influx of low IQ their worlders flooding the internet it was sadly always doomed to fail
>>737434656I don't bother gatekeeping because I filter out retards by default.
>>737440742Again, newfag, this was only ever relevant to /a/ and constantly mocked by every other board, and it ultimately completely failed on /a/. Not because of a flood of third worlders, but because people simply stopped posting.
>>737440045/a/'s fate is ironic because the entry level stuff they hated people talking about turned out to be well beloved eternal classics. Meanwhile nobody gives a fuck or remembers these random romcoms/mid as fuck LN adaptations from 15 years ago that they tried to gas up as the best anime ever. I remember an embarrassing phase of theirs when they jerked off and unironically got angry and hype at shitty revenge slop isekai and shitspammed Akame ga Kill so I don't trust their taste at all
>>737440820I'd rather have a dead board than whatever is going on on here so in the end they won.
>>737440663>don’t use tripcodes needlessly>don’t ask pointless questions you could just google or learn via reading the board>don’t break the rules>don’t type like a tard100% reasonable
>>737440980yet you're still posting here in an offtopic thread. Curious
>>737440904>/a/'s fate is ironic because the entry level stuff they hated people talking about turned out to be well beloved eternal classicsSuch as..?If you're talking about Naruto, then this would be like saying Iron Man 5 is the peak of cinema or that Halo 26 is an "eternal classic" or whatever.>Meanwhile nobody gives a fuck or remembers these random romcoms/mid as fuck LN adaptations from 15 years ago that they tried to gas up as the best anime ever.The Monogatari Series, Boogiepop, and Haruhi are still very much beloved and viewed as the best anime from their respective eras.>>737440980If the board was dead, you'd miss the shit you're complaining about.
>>737440045>>737440904/a/ died because of the mods. You can't gatekeep if you don't actually have any power. The mods wanted /a/ to be shonen shit and chapter dumps, so after enough bullshit that's what it became. /v/ is in the exact same spot in case you couldn't tell.
>>737440612These old /a/fags just transitioned into being full time discordfags. Like hell I'd want to meet fucking accelspammer or anybody who tripfags irl
>>737441126Such as..?Aikatsu and PriPara.
>>737440612The problem is that I'm not interested in ERPing with people, so I tend to avoid those /a/ discords.Same reason I don't use /co/'s discord outside of the seasonal weekend streams for shit like Halloween and Christmas.I'm not looking for replacement friends, I have real life friends for that, I just wanted a place to discuss some of my hobbies that I don't talk to my real life friends with as much.
>>737441323>/a/ died because of the mods.People keep saying this, but /a/'s decline began long before then. Most you got was N/a/ruto day, which doesn't even align with the decline (even ignoring that your examples are specific to 2019~Now, which is long after /a/ died). >>737441461>Aikatsu and PriPara.These are entry level if you're a little girl that also happens to be a SEAmonkey. If you're the average /a/ user (an obese 20-30 year old man who lives in the western hemisphere), these shows make you a social outcast.>>737441521>I just wanted a place to discuss some of my hobbiesCongratulations, you gatekept yourself, because you envision every single place of social interaction beyond this site as "ERPing". Never even mentioned discord but you jumped right to it.You probably don't even watch anime anyways, so it's no huge loss.
not only do I gatekeep games, I throw meat to the mob by finding series I don't like and hyping it up and spoonfeed everything they need to know to begin playing it.
>"gatekeeping" dramayou're like the guys who get mad a punk band you like gets a tiny bit popular and call them sellouts who are actually badjust hipster "I liked it first" crybaby bullshit
>>737436202Would you have accepted Monster Hunter up until the creation of Worlds?
>>737441687>because you envision every single place of social interaction beyond this site as "ERPing".Anon, stop, you and I both know what anime communities are and always have been like.
>>737441918>I liked gatekeeping before it was coolor>Gatekeeping was never cool (I was gatekept)call it
>>737438974Security through obscurity is no security at all, and obscurity prevents the right kind of new blood from joining, ensuring a slow death. Altchans which are good, are good because they have moderators that give a shit. If yours does, then sharing it here shouldn't be a problem, if it doesn't, then it's already gone to shit.
>>737441973Most of the discussion centric ones are identical to nighttime /a/. There's basically no difference (unless you somehow ended up on the MAL forums I guess, but even there I've never seen a mod step in for anything less than someone posting a doxx).
>>737441126Call it filtered or whatever but I never cared for Monogatari. Haruhi is a cultural mainstay sure. Entry-level wise that they attributed to /v/ stereotypically liking and /a/ not wanting to talk about would be shit like GITS, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, TTGL etc. Like how many people give a shit about shit like Ro Kyu Bu or Strike Witches today? Always seemed like larping to show how you were too good for it and when people did talk about it, they had to put a mental addendum that "something something, i only liked it because it was a trainwreck". These niggas also unironically thought they were the only ones cognizant of seasonal anime they grabbed from nyaa or whatever, while everybody else only knew tv broadcasts. Also I legitimately believe that Joshirakufags on /a/ were larping their asses off, additionally Hidamarifags were just the precursors of people who larp anime to use it as a pfp. Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei was good though.
>>737441918This was literally the exact problem with Fall Out Boy though, except not punk.
>>737441687If you're the average /a/ user (an obese 20-30 year old man who lives in the western hemisphere), these shows make you a social outcast.kViN will like to have a word with you.
>>737434656there's zero point because the very femtosecond the IP holder no longer wants you to do so, you can't. instead from that very moment (You) are the undesirable getting excommunicado from any and all spaces not discounted as schizo groups.
>>737442234>Call it filtered or whatever but I never cared for Monogatari.I will.>Entry-level wise that they attributed to /v/ stereotypically liking and /a/ not wanting to talk about would be shit like GITS, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, TTGL etc.Because all of those had already been discussed, for ages. TTGL and Death Note when they aired (and released chapters in the case of DN), where they both filled up the catalog and all discussion was wringed out of them until people were sick of it.GitS was moreso just people sick of discussion around the films, but both it and Cowboy Bebop had the issue of circling around the same two or so points and becoming threads for people who don't actually watch anime much at all, which made them very annoying threads that were fun to shit on. >Like how many people give a shit about shit like Ro Kyu Bu or Strike Witches today?Who cares. They aired, it was their season, people wanted to talk about those more then than the majority of the userbase wanted to have the five billionth Cowboy Bebop thread that would inevitably be some flavor of dub vs sub argument.>Also I legitimately believe that Joshirakufags on /a/ were larping their asses off,Nope, Joshiraku was just an acquired taste for you I guess. It might help to recognize that it was made by the same person as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, since you brought that up as well.
I have literally not ever organically come across the things in the OP and other adjacent stuff. Not one. I have only ever seen it through screencaps that then get posted here. This tells me one of two things.1. You unironically go to these websites yourself, in which case, you need to fuck off and go back. 2. You ironically go to these websites specifically to search and find this shit to post back here, in which case you need to take a chill pill and get a grip.
>>737436395Blue Archive gatekeeps itself from normies by having fanservice.
>>737442331Uma Thurman is a banger tho
>>737442121>Most of the discussion centric ones are identical to nighttime /a/.Right, and that's the problem, the discussion-centric ones are a minority, most of the time these online communities suffer from the things online communities have always suffered from, namely autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their hobbies.Even outside of discussion, I've yet to find any online western anime community that's a decent replacement for things like the Sora no Wotos yearly stream or even r/a/dio.The main issue I have with modern 4chan is all of the annoying third world ESL retards, they're on every single board and they're always absolute dogshit posters. They've genuinely made /co/ completely fucking unusable since that board nowadays is basically just 5 generals full of ESL 16 year olds regurgitating drama from their twatter timelines, spam threads made by aforementioned autistic ESL third worlders, and a scant few comic threads that die after 20 posts unless it's something like a general "discuss comics you've been reading" thread, which if it's lucky will hit 400 posts after a week or 2, with a decent amount of necrobumping.
>>737442634I'll give you that the chorus is catchy, it's just the complete opposite direction of what I wanted them to be and do.At least these days I have Hot Mulligan.
>>737434656How do you gatekeep something you don't own?
>>737442685>namely autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their hobbies.I've seen that far more on /v/, as in the anonymous imageboard we're posting on where there's barely even any active namefags, than I have in any anime discussion spaces in the past decade.
>>737440045>>737440663>>737441687It's pretty funny that Fatefags were the biggest proponents of gatekeeping, and they'd often be the most blatant newfags around (outside obligatory Narutards and the like (though Fatefags had a disturbing overlap with them)). I've been to several communities run by massive Doremifags though and they always end up far better. I've never seen a community run by a Doremifag fall apart, but Fatefags always harp on with purity testing and trying to fuck with every user possible and create something ultimately intensely unlikable.
>>737442595BA doesn't really have an actual community, people image dump, jerk off, then leave
>>737442784That's more autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their politics, but that's also a problem in the modern internet in general, the only way to address that is just to outright ban anyone who mentions any form of politics, which is what 4chan should have continued doing instead of just letting the retarded politics shit run rampant for a decade+.But the autism I'm talking about is more like the kind you find on /vg/, where 2 autistic retards shit up multiple threads for weeks, months, years at a time because they're having some annoying autistic spat. Which is fine on non-anonymous discussion places so long as one of those 2 people isn't a mod.If they are, you get situations like what happened on /vt/ pre-hack, where a janny/mod uses their own personal beef to shit up an entire community.
>>737442516Call it what you want, it never clicked for me.Also brother, this is also about people calling it outright BAD while acting like an arbiter on quality when talking about all this literal slop of the times too. The illusion got torn down for me a decade ago when the juxtaposition became too much. Same exact feeling on 4chan as coming face to face with the old /jp//a/ who would mysteriously switch up on a random 'kamige' that would get translated and they'd immediately say it was actually shit all along (but this untranslated futa ntr vn or whatever is actually peak writing because of its prose) or some crap like that. >Nope, Joshiraku was just an acquired taste for you I guess. It might help to recognize that it was made by the same person as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, since you brought that up as well.Yeah that's why I brought it up immediately after.
>>737438139ebaumsworld is pretty good
>>737442759I really just think more songs should sample the Munsters theme
>>737435697>>737435084If it's so easy then why are you faggots not doing it? Braindamaged retards, the lot of you.
>>737443682But I am.
/v/'s version of gatekeeping is shitting their pants loudly and hoping the person goes away.
>>737437761its ruining itself with its early access game. if they keep the damage high, it will do fine
>>737434656Geiru Toneido hasn't been relevant in three years and hasn't done worse damage to the fandom that tumblr shippers already did. Who's still obsessed with her?
>>737444239Forget the ace attorney fandom, she's done irreparable damage to the clown fetish community. When people hear clussy, they think of a two faced murder who hated being a clown instead of someone who's actually cheerful.
>>737444397Even then, Pomni has more influence there than Geiru. Plus, it's not like clowns had the best rep ever. Look at the Joker or Pennywise or even a real life example such as Pogo the Clown.
How do you become a non-tourist in anything new you do? It all seems so arbitrary. Do you tell someone new to anime/otaku culture to watch FMA or recommend some obscure shit from shonen sunday or SoL?
>>737443030Fatefags were always shounen powerlevelfags. The series is literally only good for waxing your carrot to whatever new character they're advertising in the gacha that fits your fancy and nothing else.
>>737444653Lurking and actually engaging with the thing you want to be a part off. How is this not obvious to you? Are you human?
Why are you guys pretending your ultra normie series are underground. If it sold a couple million copies than their never was a gate to be kept. All this sounds like is retards pretending their better than other retards.
>>737444653>How do you become a non-tourist in anything new you do?The same way people have done it for literally thousands of years of human social interaction?You don't wait for someone to recommend you shit, you should come into a hobby because of your own interest, what kind of fucking brainless automaton only gets into a hobby based entirely on someone recommending shit to them instead of just seeing something they find interesting and going "huh, that looks neat, I'll check this out."Did you start playing fucking tag as a kid because some other kid recommended it to you in preschool?
>>737444610Ugh, Pomni. She's a great character, but she's forced into the costume against her will. She doesn't have the spirit or talent of a clown. There are no actually clown reps unless you dig deep for someone like Lola Pop who's game failed. Clowns stand for chaos and madness to the general public, not joy. I hate it.
>>737434705yea theres no point keeping the back gate closed when the producers have the front door wide open
>>737441918Yeah imagine being mad about yakuza memes pretending it's some indie only for the boys real shit nobody outside would understand Nigga they made like 13 games, it's literally popular mainstream culture lmao
>>737444653What separates tourists from non tourists isn't a level of knowledge and familiarity. What makes tourists bad, is that they come in and immediately start arguing things should be changed to accommodate them. They care if something is "problematic" not if it's good or bad. If you want to quit being a tourist, all you need to do is watch/play stuff with an open mind, accepting it for what it is. Treat the media like it's own thing operating on it's own rules, rather than a propaganda piece for your politics and/or fetish.
my favorite game has never been mentioned on /v/, I've checked the archives tooit's not indieslop but a real game toocrazy
>>737434656>Being elitist is a bad thingHuh?
>>737444653It's not arbitrary at all>watch a stream of the last game, never play the rest because they are "dated", only really got into it because it got popular and you wanted to fit inYou are not a fan of the series.>play the last game, like it so much you go through the rest of the series, judge them as they deserve instead of going "yikes, why aren't they like the last game???", got into it because you genuinely liked it and wanted to get into it for your own enjoymentYou are fan of the series
video games are a for profit business so you'll never be able to successfully gatekeep anything as long as the devs want to make momey
>>737445301It's really not that surprising, most /v/tards only discuss a few acceptable to like videogames for nerd points. It's how shit like call of duty can sell millions and millions of copies and cs2 have a million active players but not a single thread is on /v/ ever but now it's time for the 18th resident evil that day. In reality most people here are just on YouTube all day or quing league of legends or some shit with /v/ on the 2nd monitor.
>>737441919Yes and I'm even playing one of them right now
>>737445539Devs should adopt a business model that works better with cultivating and catering to dedicated fans rather than trying to entice the ever evasive general audience. I'm not sure what exactly that would look like though.
>>737445539>video games are a for profit businessExcept the indie games, which is why they're super easy to gatekeep.
>>737434656Legitimately how do you gatekeep a game like Uma musume? anyone can download and play it
>>737434705Nah. The game just has to do the gatekeeping itself.
>>737445735Make a forum/discussion space for the game, then ban anyone who joins in and doesn't meet your community standards. I can't tell you how to set those community standards, but it's the same as gatekeeping anything.
>>737434656My games gatekeep themselves, nigga. I try to trick people into playing them.
>>737445562>It's how shit like call of duty can sell millions and millions of copies and cs2 have a million active players but not a single thread is on /v/ ever/v/ used to have CoD threads way back when, I remember playing on dedicated servers with other /v/irgins during the CoD 4 days.Those days are long gone though, especially now that CoD hasn't had dedicated community server support since, what, Blops 3?Only the mega-autists on /vg/ want to have running threads dedicated to whatever the current multiplayer game they're playing is, here they usually only pop up on the weekends, like when there's a party /v/an server up for TF2 or something.I personally liked playing modded Mordhau and Chivalry with /v/, those were fun.But yea, modern multiplayer games are dogshit because they're all worthless skinnerboxes designed to have a monopoly on your attention instead of just being a fun community-oriented game that you play after work to have some fun. Community servers used to feel like the local pub where you and the other regulars went to after work to fuck around for a bit, zoomers don't have that culture because zoomers are "always on" when it comes to internet shit thanks to having their brains rotted by constant screen exposure since they were 6.I hope the anon running gamedate finds some success, it's a pretty neat idea and I'd love to see some older games get some love for some nice "shoot the shit" online play with some pals.
>>737445735You ask them what their favorite race is.This is largely in jest since like you said, anyone can download the game, watch the anime, or read the manga, it's even free on youtube sometimes, but getting "deeper" in umamusume is a direct line to keibafagging since you'll naturally want to learn more about the actual horse your favorite girl comes from which leads to watching race archives. True fans should have an answer rolled up, even if it's something basic like 2000 Arima Kinen.
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>>737444916Come to think of it, what's a clown character that actually performs willingly?
>>737434705loli can gatekeep anythingand if your reaction is>ew you pedoor showing you're an indoctrinated newfag by spewing>tranime / just go watch pornyou're exactly what the gate should've kept locked out
>>737436083It was definitely supposed to be a stealth Uma Musume thread, they replaced the manga (SnK/AoT?) panel with it for a reason.
>>737435768The normgroids making the memes in the OP image aren't buying those games nor have any interest in playing them, they just want to circulate poor quality jpgs on social media and talk about lore/jerk off to the characters.
>>737446806No it wasn't, that was put there for easier shitposting. Actual uma threads want to talk about the game, not rage circlejerk about what some twitter tranny did to Stay Gold. It's lowhanging fruit for shitposters, but not a stealth uma thread.
>>737434656Gatekeeping is generally impossible because products advertise themselves and communities can pop up anywhere. The only way for the average person to successfully gatekeep something is to never talk about it and hope everybody else does the same.
>>737446513That's the problem right there. I already mentioned Lola Pop, but without diving into independent comics, only considering characters with an actual show or game, I have nothing. I don't know how there are so many characters that wear the costume, but don't actually do any clowning. Most just do crime. and if they do any clowning, normally the punchline is how bad they are at it.If I were to suggest a character that's a good model for the spirit and talents I expect out of a clown, I'd actually recommend Bonny and Betty De Famme despite neither actually being clowns. They really showcase the mindset and theatrics I'd expect out of a clown in all their interactions. Nothing can get them down, and even when things get rough, they still try to make people smile with their tricks.I'd also talk about another character who's mixed and can give a good example of what works and doesn't work for a clown character, but GR 15 is in the way. If you know her, I shouldn't have elaborate much.
>>737434705Loli is always guaranteed success when it comes to that.
>>737447043lol
>>737434656I don't see a problem
>>737447208What the fuck even is all that alien goobledegook?
>>737446675The second a subculture becomes readable to normalfags it's over, what's left is a brand. That's why punk was dead the second it got a documentary on MTV.Cunny functions differently from other subculture markers because it's not just aesthetically repellent to normalfags, it carries genuine social consequence for them. A normalfag can put studs on a jacket. A normalfag cannot, in good conscience within their social ecosystem, openly post cunny without real world blowback. Their social credit system actively prevents adoption.The issue then becomes ironic lolicons that wear 500 layers of said irony like a hazmat suit they wear to handle material their social environment would otherwise punish them for touching.
>>737447452Normies like lolis is the thing.
>>737434705That's you become a fan of the most passionate, autistic shit imaginable that would discoourage undesirables from the get-go due to being hard to penetrate and/or having "problematic" elements.And then hope some faggot who, paradoxically, both understands the series yet also welcomes these parasites, doesn't make a "guide" on how to get into the franchise, thereby spawning tertiaries like locusts. Seriously, FUCK whoever made that shit for Touhou. I thought it was immune.
Anyone who says that gatekeeping is good is taking it for granted that they deserve to be the gatekeepers.
>>737447536There's different spheres. Social media lolifags today scream to high heaven about how much they jerk off to it for social media clout or spam the sob emote to random shit farm twitter engagement. They can't just jerk off to rustle on panda and shut the fuck up like "normal" people. Literally the next stage of those annoying trapfag spammers from the 2010's except now they hide behind the nature of their fetish that them being annoying faggots is also against trve 4chan culture or whatever the fuck
>>737447549>I thought it was immune."I got into touhou because of the memes, music, and porn" is one of the oldest jokes to the series anon. Everyone knows touhou from something that isn't directly touhou, be it night of nights, hentai, or even yukkuri torture. There is no way you thought touhou of all things, where a genuinely unfathomable amount of media lies outside the actual games, would be immune to this.
>>737447493idk, we're not stupid enough to understand it I guess.
>>737447697No, I assume that there are tons of communities that I should be gatekept from.For instance, I know fuckall about 2hu, outside of a handful of fangames I've played that are related to it, so I don't really engage that much with the community because I don't really understand the culture.I don't know why this gets brought up, since presumably, if I'm gatekept from a community, it's usually a community dedicated to something I have little to no interest in, otherwise I would take the time to learn about the things that I presumably want to engage with in the actual community.
>>737445562Most of that was absorbed into /vg/. Nowadays /v/ is just softcore porn and ragebait with the occasional thread like this that I actually enjoy reading, albeit fairly little to do with video games.
>>737448058>otherwise I would take the time to learn about the things that I presumably want to engage with in the actual community.But what if they gatekeep you anyway?
>>737448058This. I think they're implying there would be communities for games I like that would gatekeep me for reasons unrelated to the game, but that's just bluesky, and I'm fine being kept out of there.
>>737446513>>737447340Ronald McDonald?
>>737437081blue archive has an anime anon, one of your points is moot.
>>737447536You have a good way with words.>because it's not just aesthetically repellent to normalfags, it carries genuine social consequence for them.The only problem is that when something is TOO repellent to normalfags, they may become moral crusaders against it. For example, Japanese loli artists on Twitter getting stalked and mass reported every time they make a new account.
>>737448314that anon was obviously baiting, umamusume was massively successful in japan (and got an anime) well before the global version of the game was released. western community gatekeeping or lack thereof cannot possibly have had any impact on anything they mentioned.
>>737448304Ronald McDonald isn't an actual character. You couldn't name any detail about him except that he's inoffensive and likes mcdonalds burgers. The burger he's selling has more personality than him.
>>737434656I can only do so much against the onslaught of startroons growing on /v/ due to the "new" games and the continuous shillthreads. The games are piss easy and have little to do with actual Megaman, its the perfect starting point for newfags and cazzies to shit up the fanbase and I wont allow it, not here at least, so ill be a pesky little fly. Im very glad their games flopped, that should help a ton too. Reminder Geocucks it will never get better.
>>737446675>loli can gatekeep anythingYes as long as the developer doesn't pander to the "muh daughter" faggots
>>737446675Pic not related?
>>737448253Not the anon you're replying to, but so what if they do? That's their community, they can decide who they let in. It's not like gatekeeping means keeping everyone out.
we should start gatekeeping 4chan again 2bh famalam baka
>>737434656You cant gatekeep shit unless youre in a position where you can influence the game itselfShitting yourself and hoping the people that see it try avoid entering isnt gatekeeping
>>737448710Pic related is so effectively gatekept, that there's no issue with thread shitters despite having a trans flag in it's sewers. It's gatekeeping even the actual IP holders.
>>737447549>And then hope some faggot who, paradoxically, both understands the series yet also welcomes these parasites, doesn't make a "guide" on how to get into the franchise, thereby spawning tertiaries like locusts.what are you talking about?also >>737447823 is correct, even back in 2010 or earlier i don't remember people bitched about secondaries flooding in because iosys stuff got popular
>>737448848So you're just gonna let other people decide what you're allowed to enjoy?
>people make a thing you like>in order to protect it, you must somehow influence the public to not buy it>and then if you somehow succeeded, this will result in the creators making the same game again for you to enjoy, and only youmental illness
>>737434656no because gatekeeping isn't real. i wish it was but if other people genuinely want to be into something, or in most cases these days, just pretend to, they're going to invite themselves in. the only thing that can truly gatekeep is the game itself.
>>737449020You seem to be under the misconception that gatekeeping means somehow preventing people from playing the game, rather than community discussion spaces banning people that break their rules.
>>737447493mediatok shitpost KINO which just derives from ironically shitposting about "good media" after getting their own rounds of people spamming generic 3x3 greatshttps://files.catbox.moe/6f0xhm.mp4
>>737449184It's not a misconception.
