I will keep using Unreal Engine.
>>737503853I'd kick this guy's ass irl
>mfw I used charisma as a dump stat
Remember when Unreal Engine 3 was the 100% sure sign you were going to play some shitty shooter?
>If you would please consult the graphs.
I'll keep not playing whatever your boyfriend makes then
>>737504148All I got from this chart is that it takes 6 years for shit to actually come out
so what should we use instead?No I will not fund his engine or use unity
>>737504452Source Engine 2https://github.com/Facepunch/sbox-public/
>>737504452stay on unreal engine so threat interactive can fix it
>>737504148same energy
>>737503853it's funny how DLSS has completely solved the problems he was complaining about
>>737504949DLSS is the reason 1440p looks worse than 1080p now because DLSS quality is 1707x960 or less than 1080p.
>>737505058DLSS balanced looks better than native
>>737505190>fake hallucinated bullshit looks better than nativethank you for correcting the record
>>737503853qrd
>>737504093Explain , was he Using chatgpt or not
>>737505190No, it doesn't, games move, you have looked at still screens or screenshots lmao
>>737505190
>>737504949>>737505190DLSS is the reason everything looks like a smeared shit nowadays.
>>737505354No... that's you. Newer versions are temporally stable. It's time to upgrade from your 1060, rajeesh.
>>737505489Games used to have high pixel counts. 2560x1600 used to be a thing. Now Nvidia is trying to normalize trashy resolutions eg: 960x540, 1114x626, 1707x960, all this ugly shit worse than 1080p and doesn't scale with effects that expect 720p or 1080p or you know real common TV resolutions.
>>7375055365070 ti hereNew versions require tinkering and are still shit especially when you can't force ray reconstruction
>>737503853
>>737505272he will keep using unreal engine
>>737505596We went from 4K to fake resolution to fake frames, and now we're reaching the era of fake GPUs. Fuck Nvidia.
>>737505386this image is over a year old, even older than the transformer modelget new material
>>737504020Yep. The UE3 plastic feel.
Guy must be onto something if he's getting coordinated hater threads.
>>737505386Pragmata runs at 864p on PS5 Pro, versus 1080p on base PS5, yet looks way better because PSSR produces a much more stable image than the dog shit basic upscaling used on base PS5. The higher base resolution of the latter means jack shit when the end result is far worse.
>>737506096/v/ loves this guy because he says exactly what /v/ has always complained about for the past 5 years, but technology is advancing too quickly for him to stay relevant
>>737506096He has been working on his game since 2021, and we still haven’t seen a single snippet of it. For a company that calls itself an “upcoming indie game studio” and is asking for 900k to fix Unreal Engine, how does the hell does this not make anyone bat an eye?
>>737503904Shut up, Timmy! Start being more like Gabe and people start liking you.
>>737507770rose really let herself go
>>737508314She looks great considering she's nearly 40.
>>737508372How many kids?
>>737506096he's a scammer
>>737508432boys dont have kids, silly
godot mogs unreal
>>737506096yeah chris-chan must also be a genius
>>737507770is she still a virgin?
>>737508615WRONG.
>>737505190the "native" that you are talking about isn't native retard bro, modern games default to TSR/TAA when you are not using DLSS.so the "native" in question looks blurred in comparison to DLSS, but DLSS look blurred in comparison to actual native 1080p.you don't have to trust me, pick an old game like Crysis 3 and run it with MSAA at 1080p.
>>7375055365090 here and it still looks like ass
>>7375101915100 here it looks great
>>737510052Nope. MSAA (x8) looks worse. Aliasing everywhere.
>>737503904sorry, his ass is copyrighted
>>737510052MSAA can't even do its job properly
>>737503904He'd DMCA your feet
>>737503904Bro he’s AI generated
>>737510605you got something that's not 1MB?
>>737510305it may look worse in edge cases since MSAA is a "dumb" algorithm, i'm not saying that MSAA is better than DLSS in general, i'm saying that DLSS isn't as sharp as native, unless you apply an artificial sharpness filter.>>737510605I said old game, FH 5 is a modern game, it wasn't built around MSAA.
>>737510806is less compression going to magically make it look less like a million ants are crawling on your screen? no one uses MSAA because not only is it expensive, it's shit ANTI ALIASING>>737510962>it wasn't built around MSAA."built around MSAA" means limiting yourself to NO FOLIAGE, NO FENCES, UNCOMPLEX TEXTURES, NO HAIR, ETC.That's fucking retarded and you know it.
>>737511120>is less compressionno, but it's objectively a better comparison
>>737503904you'll never find him in his concrete jungle favela
>>737509829this is a retarded take because improving an engine is what leads to more people using it.
>>737505598That's a problem in the game not a problem in dlss
>>737503853>i am forgottenwhat went wrong?
>>737506273Based brain-having consoletard
>>737509535No woman over 12 is
>>737511475Someone so old could never survive there
>>737503853It's funny because he looks like an Unreal asset.
ah the OG grifter now even the big youtube channels like gameranx are joining the hate bandwagon haha
>>737511475he lives with his divorced mom
>>737503853Dude who is this Thread Interactive guy and why does literally everyone in the unreal community dislike him. I watched a few of his videos explaining some shit, saying how the unreal 5 devs are XYZ, but honestly I've never coded in my life other than some C++ shit in highschool 10 years ago. I can't side with either party because I don't understand. Can a schizo explain?
>>737513786go watch this dallas guy talk about his game. he quietly changed things to actually reflect what threat interactive said. it was very embarrassing. another "vet" dunking on ti, only to go>oh fuck he was right
>>737504526>AIlmao obvious grifter
>>737510605>SAAR THE SMEARY SHIT SARR MSAA SUCKS BECAUSE IT CANNOT SMEAR SAAR
>>737504452We should move to Source engine 2, IdTech and Cry Engine
>>737505190if a game is built with TAA in mind native will look shit yes, if its on its gonna looks blurry if its off its gonna turn foliage poopoo with its aliasing
>>737505058Even 1080p looks like shit. When I play a game running on unreal5 I literally have to turn on DLSS or else my 3060 will die. It's so painfully bad that I CAN SEE THE ENEMIES GHOSTING as they move and leave behind afterimages of themselves. It's so disgusting. Never had an issue running IdTech games or Counter strike 2. They all run native res and extremely well, meanwhile ue5 needs dlss in order to run at a "playable" framerate.
>>737516696MSAA is also smearing. It's just very bad at it.
>>737516565I got on his side when broke down what good graphics pipelines were. Using HL alyx as an example as that game looks amazing and runs very well. Turns out doing the effort of having max area topology and a great forward rendering pass can make your game run 60+ fps. Jeets and timmy shills working for ue5 seethe at him because he called them out on garbage practices that bloat the shit out the engine and is how we got Monster hunter wilds not able to run on a majority of computers
>>737517032I remember watching that video, understood some but not everything. I also watched one where he talked about the callisto protocol. And unreal engine 5 needs to die out
who would win in a fight? him or Steve?
>>737517186>And unreal engine 5 needs to die outI agree. We need Unreal Engine 6 ASAP.
>>737517248Very true, saar
>>737506096There's this Graphics Programming discord server that Threat Interactive joined and got banned in and now everyone there hates him.On that GP Discord there were a few guys on there that also post on 4chan while taking a break from making yet another C++ spinning vulkan cube renderer demo project.That's the only place I can think of he would get detractors from, maybe people from the Unreal Engine forums, idk.
I fucking hate UE4. What the fuck do you mean all game logic is tied to the GameThread, which in itself is tied to a SINGLECPUCOREso that it cannot use multiple cores?https://pqmlmaoxd.github.io/gamedev/analysis/2026/04/12/wuthering-waves-performance-issues.html
>>737516565scammer who has been kicked out of every community he's tried to slither into
>>737517296>>737517325Yeah this is what I meant this guy is from the Graphics Programming discord server and he just posted a screencap from it lol.
>>737505273All that comment fluff detailing him changing four numbers should clue you in
>>737517296It's not just graphics programming discord, he gotten banned off modders heaven discord for piracy and making alts, threat interactive went by /u/threatinteract, /u/thenextgen, /u/project-redo, and /u/solidsnake.
>>737516969the big difference is MSAA only effects edges and doesn't throw vaseline on the entire fucking scene causing everything to look blurry and soft
>>737517461this is his background btw
>>737517490Not a problem with newer DLSS versions. Your criticism might have made sense in the year 2024.
>>737517389>this guy is from the Graphics Programming discord serverlol kevin trying to pretend that there isn't an entire kf thread dedicated to archiving his retardation
>>737517590No, it's still the same and a cherry picked still doesn't prove anything. It'll always be inherently blurry because of how it works blending data together from past frames.
>>737517705No it's actually more detailed because AI will interpolate data using higher resolutions. Hence, literally better than native.
>>737517760>still blurrylol
>>737517506What a fucking loser. And now he spams /v/ with his AI bots.
>>737517032I've never been on his side, he is a scammer and if he actually cared that much about half life alyx he'd just license source 2 instead of try to wring 1 million dollars out of people to "fix" ue5 which is mostly geared towards retards by having things premade/focusing on ease of use.
>>737517781If you think it's blurry then your brain must be used to seeing razor sharp edges from jagged aliasing. I recommend upgrading your monitor.
>>737517032>I got on his side when broke down what good graphics pipelines wereYou have now idea what a "good graphics pipeline is" and you certainly didn't learn watching the videos of this scammer.
>is right about modern graphics>has a huge mega autism spergout and starts falsely copyright striking everyone and making his side look badWhat the fuck is his problem?
>>737518087>is right about modern graphicshe's a nodev that has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.
>>737518087Why are you using the third person to talk about you?
>>737518151lets see your game
>>737518242Let's see kevin's game.
>>737518302just wait, when kevin scams enough money off retards to pay people to make a game for him we will see who is laughing
Lotta gossip about this guy, not a lot of talk about what he's actually wrong about.
>>737518374You are so pathetic Kevin. From a wannabe video game director to a shitskin spamming /v/ since you got kicked from reddit
>>737518151Correct. Sorry ranjeesh
For me it's ninomae ina'nis
>>737518454You're a spic with no job running a scam. You're a jeet spiritually
>>737518506This you?
>>737518532No I'm not a disgusting shitskin scammer unlike you. Again you're a spic that acts like a jeet. Disgusting shitskins, gtfo from the US.
KWABAMRS (Kevin was always based and made redditors seethe)
>>737518587>BLOODY BITCH BASTARD!!!This you?
>>737518657Nope I'm white unlike you you vile shitskin spammer. Fucking useless trash who can't even into programming. >MUUUH I SUCK AT EVERYTHING BUT IM STILL WANNA BE A LEAD DEV IN RENDERINGAHAHAHAHAHAHAYOUR SUCH A VILE SHITSKIN
>>737518707>I'm white unlike youI'm not really sure this pic of you is white.
>>737518809shitskin
cant believe how many troon fake devs try to slander the man.
>>737518828>shitskinYes that pic of you is a shitskin. Here's a literal one
>>737518963>Same skin color as OP's picShitskin
certified melty
>>737517461>>737517506CEO mindset, he will capitalize on his youtube channel eventually because he at least knows how to use RenderDoc and he's right about the general techniques and general problems.Implementation details and bad C++ features to misuse and get lost in are irrelevant to him, when he gets the Asmongold/SpaceX Grant I hope some guys that actually know how to program tag along and build that Days Gone renderer for UE5 he talks about constantly.Honestly things are so grim the only future I see for C++ graphics programmers is unironically working for Threat on his Unreal Engine Patch or making your own 2d sprite game like Tangy Tower Defense.Everyone uses Unreal Engine to cut off engine programmers and even when Battlefield 6 was super successful as an in-house engine, EA massacred DICE anyway, grim.There's thousands of C++ programmers that know Vulkan intimately and know engine dev and actually yesdev BUT they are all atomized working on their separate engines that no one will ever use, with their own C++ idiosyncrasies and complexity where one developer can't understand or get anything from another developers engine, total atomization. They basically do this work, not to make a game or something useful for anybody else, but as a CV for a job that will never come.The way that Unreal Engine 5 killed the entire engine and graphics developer space, even though it's a terrible engine with a ton of issues and terrible performance, should have caused every developer to riot and totally lynch UE5 for all it's faults and get that market and income back, but every C++ dev is in the crab bucket, and therefore they suffer eternally and we suffer eternally when we have to buy an Nvidia 6666 with raytracing to basically render mat_fullbright 1.Maybe the french guys that did E33 are gonna modify UE5 to be actually good, someone convince them.
>>737510605>that blurry as FUCK vaseline shit DLAAlol. lmao.
Threat Interactive has stopped shitposting on Twitter because he's scared of the s&box release.
>>737519261I wonder how they actually use the Source 2 renderer, and which one. iirc Deadlock has an alternative deferred renderer that gets super laggy when im 20 minutes into a match and makes me quit that shit game.
what ever happened to a good ol XNA or Monogame project, tell ya what
>>737519095I genuinely feel bad for him, hes clearly passionate about whatever game or whatever he has in mind and I really don't see how he can try to muster any kind of support outside of the videos he makes, at least he can try to garner some sort of audience with that and hopefully sooner or later actual developers that would be willing to help. They are fun, educational and I enjoy them. It's truly a shame to see ambition like this being shut down because there is a possibility for things to be better, I don't see AAA goyimslop studios caring, I don't see anything valuable being made by indie studios either outside of FOTM troonslop. I really don't think it would kill if some people offered to actually follow trough to help him with this, little-by-little and see what we've got
>>737519773>>737519095how do you fall for this shit? he's admitted multiple times that he's too dumb for graphics programming, he has zero actual skills or experience in anything, but for some reason you trust him 100%?
>>737503853>I don't know anything about graphics programming, and tried to study it but am too stupid>but I know how to improve the Unreal engineWhy do people believe this beaner?
>>737503904I doubt you would
Why the f*ck is this troon fake dev trying to slander him? How do we respond without sounding mad?
>>737504636Which means it's legit and true then kek
>>737519847I ain't falling for shit, I'm just giving my 2 cents. I think this is more sad than anything, like an ideas guy that never got to see his ideas live. I'd much rather have these fun videos than the latest goytracing njewvidia/AMD/Intel sponsored shill slop that gets shat out every month en masse. I wish I could give some words of advice but I frankly don't even know what he can do in his scenario to fullfill his dream
>>737520132>ideasSoftware is a science, not a fucking art. It's not something that a random guy can do by feeling things out.
>>737520081kiwitroons are barely human. they don't have any actual beliefs and they still moralfag. if you're on the opposing end of them, you're in the right
>>737519847>he's admitted multiple times that he's too dumb for graphics programming, he has zero actual skills or experience in anything, but for some reason you trust him 100%?Yeah that's what a CEO is, and he knows enough to hire a few programmers and unironically achieve a working alternative renderer for UE5 based on what he absorbed from staring at frames of Days Gone through RenderDoc.All it takes is a small loan of a few million dollars and a few good men, are you in or you want to make another C++ vulkan triangle no one cares about?
>>737520236You can solve 'problems' creatively, retard.
I dont know who this is and i dont care to know about random people
>>737519847He would be a better CEO than Jim Ryan at Sony Interactive Entertainment, that nigger really didn't know jack shit.
>>737520320Can you solve a math problem if you don't know how to do math?
>>737520271What would he hire programmers to do when he doesn't know what the fuck is going on under the hood?>this is broken, and I don't know why>fix it>"sir, this works the way it should">REEEEEE SHITPOSTING AND DMCA
>>737520375Difference is programming is open-ended, not the same thing
>>737510685so devil may cry advance
>>737520496programming is literally math you fucking retarded nigger
>>737520556U can make a program without math retarded nigger
>>737520556>he fell for the Computer Science academia scam of learning tons of useless as fuck mathKWAB
>>737520668how the fuck do you think computers work?
>>737520556>>737520668Neither programming and math can solve autism, autists.
>>737520081>f*ckyou can say fuck here, retard
>>737520448That's the trick, he doesn't have to, he's a CEO.It would literally go like this.">I want the renderer from Days Gone on UE5, this has already been done before so there's plenty of reference on these old techniques, here's the renderdoc of Days Gone, also Lambert shading is ugly, here's the PDF I downloaded somewhere of this other thing called Oren-Nayar, you actually know how to program and know a little bit of math to read these PDFs because you are white or chinese, kthxbye."
>>737503904I would kidnap him, lock him in my basement, force him to wear a lacy corset and put estrogen in his food.
>>737510605You picked the 1% case where blurry is supposed to look good. You can fix this in shaders if you know what you're doing.
>>737521132>ummm just do it like this other gamethat's so fucking vague and meaningless. if the assignment is to create a clone of whatever engine days gone uses, that would be pointless because it's called unreal engine 4 and is freely available for anyone to use. ue5 is basically the same shit if you avoid lumen and nanite so it's extra pointless, the exact same thing could be accomplished by downloading ue5 and turning both of those things off
>>737521132The problem is you don't start with a CEO. You start with people who have the ideas on how to do things, and then you work on building your business with management. He doesn't know what he wants because he doesn't know shit about graphics programming. You can't optimize an engine based on that. The people who should be having ideas are the actual programmers, and if this was something worth talking about (it's not, as plenty of Unreal games have shown poor performance is the fault of lazy developers, not the engine), competent developers would have got together and done what he claims to be trying to do.You can make an established product with a manager hiring a team. Usually it ends up sucking that way, but if the product is solved (games, burgers, dildos), you know where to hire people and have a general idea what you want.With the Threat Interactive situation, he FEELS a certain way and doesn't know shit. He doesn't know what he wants except "muh optimization" because he doesn't know how game engines work and tapped out when trying to learn it. It's vague and nonspecific, and you can't hire people for a vague and nonspecific goal and expect it to work out.>pore over all this code and see if you can increase performanceYou're dumping money down the drain paying developers for that.
>>737521132holy pajeet mindset
>>737506096>>737506096Nah, he had some credibility when he made some detailed breakdowns on how to fix UE, then mentioned he'll deliver something better than AI+RT,but never did.Meanwhile actual studios did what he claimed to do, with BF6 and Ark, so he's kind of irrelevant now.
I AM NOW CEO OF EPIC GAMES. ChatGPT, fix Unreal Engine by turning it into Source 2. Make no mistake.
>>737521408Consider this rhetoric, if "lazy developers misusing the engine and creating poor performance" is the norm, wouldn't that motivate the "competent developers" to "get together" to solve that problem, as it is something worth talking about?And if they consider this problem irrelevant, even though it is a recurring problem, so recurring that this is what the engine is remembered for, then why call these "competent developers" "competent"?
>>737522278>I'm sorry, but as a Large Language model, I cannot condone racial remarks against Indian people. Nor turn Indian hard labor into something else. You welcome to ask me anything else though!
