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130 people lost their job because of bad writing + ugly main character

I think japanese people are stupid for trusting western people on advice on how to make AAA games. They should have made this game ignoring advice from outside

Similar to how DmC almost destroyed the franchise, japs dont learn and keep trusting western people.
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>>737868550
yes, that is entirely true and companies are retarded to fall for the "consulting" scam
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did I just friggin' do that with my mind
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>>737868550
i dont know how you can look at this character and think shes ugly
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>>737868550
Suicidal empathy.
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>>737868550
She's not that ugly for a mutt
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>>737868796
You might not have noticed, she's actually black.
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Ella is hot though, can't wait for her in RE5R
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>>737868796
>>737868820
I think the in game graphic renders make her look more wonky. I wouldn't really even hate the concept of a black person being isekaid into a high fantasy world of it were more comedic and written properly. Devs should've watched "Black Knight" with Martin Lawrence
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>>737868796
>A modern empowered girl in modern new york
Yeah Epstein gave them this idea knowing it would flop
Seriously Kojima is the only hack in the industry who knows that when making a game with a strong focus on a main character, you cant risk
You gotta play safe, use big boobs or beautiful woman in their mid 20s with blonde hair.
Or Stallone Cobra if mc was a man. It's like McDonalds, same taste but still sell well
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>>737868850
Barely. She's like a quarter black. Her blackness begins and ends with black hair, brown eyes and a tan.

There's practically no actual black people in American. They're all more white DNA than black DNA.
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It would have sold more if the girl was like pic
We know it's true, sold more in the west and asia.
Imagine if the main character of Forspoken was similar to pic, east european face barely 18 year old, it would have sold a lot more than it did

2B huge white ass helped sell Nier Automata.
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>>737868550
OH BOY IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER EPISODE OF 4CHAN PRETENDS TO BE CULTURAL CARETAKERS WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST A BUNCH OF LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR IDIOTS.

HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN TALKING NONSTOP ABOUT FEMINISM ON THIS BOARD NOW? HAS IT BEEN A DECADE YET
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>>737868550
(((((western people)))))
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>>737868550
>ugly main character
Blame the 3D modellers and art directors.
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Ugly amerimutts like beautiful girls in their games
Those schizophrenic blue hair vocal women on the internet are the minority
One thing is what they say to make money and keep employed, another thing is what they actually believe and what they actually consume
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>>737868550
Japanese could comprehend the snake like deception and pig like greed of western companies for a long time. They were too innocent to fully understand until this year.
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>>737869262
japanese were the first snakes
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>>737869118
I disagree.

You didn't see people refusing to play RE5 because Sheva is black. It sold a huge amount. They only cared she was hot and the mc for Forspoken is more than hot enough. The main problem with the game is just it's boring as shit and there's not a single likable character in the entire game which is quite an achievement for a writer.
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>>737869262
lol weeb

do you have any idea how bad corporate espionage is in japan?

there's literally schools that teach how to be a corporate spy

it's completely mainstream

they are absolutely snakes
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>>737868550
I saw a black girl buy this IRL once so it did reach the target audience.
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>>737869262
99% of them have no idea about epstein files
censorship or autism really strong in Japan
in China however the young generation knows about Epstein civilization
>>737869284
Because RE5 had Re4 with a cute white girl
That is what I'm saying, Kojima knows how to sell games, make it bread and butter, put something cute, not porn star tier like Pamela Anderson but something cute even if it's generic like Silent from MGS5

There is a reason why the model industry is huge. Companies need to make you buy stuff based on looks, most stuff you actually need you can already own, the extra stuff that max your credit card or make you spend things you wouldn't buy otherwise are mostly because companies use models or in the case of japan cute anime girls
Even if it's innocent.
Like Umaru would be amazing regardless, but the protagonist being blonde and cute makes it even better
Tell me 1 game that sold well where the main protagonist is not like Chris Redfield, Leon or Stallone Cobra tier.
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>>737869617
>There is a reason why the model industry is huge.
The model industry is mostly sustained by women who care more about pretending to be rich than pretending to be attractive.
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>>737869118
lol, even this game's UI was a retarded mess and the gameplay was shit too. There was nothing redeemable there and the fact you think just slapping an attractive character there would fix it says more about your own lack of standards than anything else.
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>>737868550
>130 people lost their job because of bad writing + ugly main character
You're underage, ask me how I know.

I don't get why kids like you think this way, but developers get paid during development just like any other job. They're not starving artists who do it for free and you don't get royalties or a share if a game does well or bad afterwards. You just get your salary and maybe a bonus for finishing, but the success of a game is completely irrelevant to anyone but the stakeholders, who do actually profit from the success. Also, nobody even lost their jobs. They all got merged into the development of Octopath Traveler, etc. You're so fucking stupid, I hate children with soft hands who have never seen work.
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>>737869691
You are downplaying the role of models in our society
K-pop a billion dollar industry was built on this, hollywood movies for how many decades and netflix past 10 years literally create the imaginary world of our society

A Psychologist, doctor, secretary, retail, fat cleaning lady, they dont know who Putin is but they know at least 10 models.
This is everywhere in the world. Why do you think the PM of Finland and New Zealand are ex models... they are cocaine addict poor whores who helped boost elections in a time of people distrust about "western democracy"

People trust these whores, anyway the point is they generate money. Kojima could have used stunning unknown beautiful women but he went for "models". People who had at least 1 or 2 "critical acclaimed" roles in their resume. This is a circle. Trump chose two models to be part of his image, one of these whores is always on TV

Taylor Swift fucking huge in south american where people are not blonde and not beautiful. The amount of money these people generate is absurd, like they show their face or create a 20 second video and this translates to real money.
Even before internet these people were creating money. They would appear on TV, next day people would be buying whatever they were promoting
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>>737869959
cope
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>>737870067
>noo please defend the billion dollar company
tranny
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>>737869729
Nier Automata has real good gameplay but people didnt buy for the gameplay. I dont know % of people who finished it but I dont think it's very high
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>>737870102
If anything I'd say it was the writing and presentation of the trailers that turned people away most as well as it just looking very generic.
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>>737868796
it didn't sell, her model is unpopular on rule34 and never used in SE collabs or commercials like Lightning or Tifa, and she doesn't even have an autistic spammer. Even ff15-kun doesn't post about her. She's fuckin ugly to most bro.
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>>737869145
4Chan is mostly bots and twitter/tiktok engagement. You're schitzo.
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You're now reminded this is what Agni's Philosophy became. Yes, that's right. This game was literally the internal project they were building for years based on all the work they did for that.

Then they decided to crap their pants with nigger seasoning and smear it all over their face.
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>>737869258
the problem wasn't ella it was whoever modeled her
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>>737869959
that post is totally irrelevant. Really nothing you wrote is worth to this discussion
It's true they dont get a better paycheck or bonus if the game is a success, for the most part 99% of devs just may get a day off if the game sell really well, and a "Thank you" email. At best

The point is they will probably be working on mobile games instead of making single player games from now on
What we really want is something like Ape Escape 4 or Freedom Wars 2 but they fell for the make narrative strong indepent women open world meme
Now it's too late
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>>737870257
Probably the result of Sweetbaby or some firm like it. I'm glad that era is dying.
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>>737870260
That type of women dont fit in video games. Or anime or japanese media
Imagine Ghost in the Shell and she is the protagonist

They are remaking God of War III to recover the losses from Ragnarok. They need 50 million dollars at least to break even
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This game sold well considering the budget and expectations
It prevented the devs from being fired
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>>737868550
I have a weird question.
Forspoken was not cheap to make. It was ruinously expensive. But this game was made at the height of the isekai craze! You could easily make THE isekai game about some Japanese high-school student ending up in a fantasy world, running around and blowing up monsters with his OP powers, and fucking a host of hot girls with some fade-to-black romance.
Isekai fans are slop enjoyers, something like this would have sold a hefty chunk along the lines of the Neptunia games.
But they didn't do that. It was like they went out of their way to make the game as UNATTRACTIVE as possible.
I'm just asking why. Everything in this game is deliberately, hideously ugly, when they could have populated it entirely with anime girls and had a Kirito-clone as the protagonist.
There was basically no reason for this game to ever have been made.
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>>737868550
>bad writing + ugly main character
the writing and dogshit facial scans didn't help but the game also played like shit. Moving around was great and there the fun ended. There was so many different abilities and skills all with different cooldowns but maximizing any of that required insane retarded amounts of menuing.

It was unfucking real.
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>>737870257
>>737870295
Not according to the director.
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>>737870418
I think is some people trying to close a studio down from overseas without the use of force or illegal means
Just make them make something that will be a failure, while telling them they are on the right track to success
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>>737870260
Curley hair is intrinsically ugly. Smooth straight curves in nature mean beauty. Chaotic spiraling and erratic motion is ugly.

Black skin is ugly because its hard to read expression. You can't easily tell the person is sad or happy, you can't see them blush easily, you can't see them get cold easily etc.

Also, black skin is hard to know if they are covered in poop or dirt because its hte same colour as their skin. From a glance even from a distance you can know if a white person is dirty. A black person you can be 5 feet from them and be unaware they have shit smeared on their hands.
This means naturally people consider brown skin potentially more stinky and this generally holds true in reality - black and brown people tend to always have a hint of urine or shit smell to them.

Lastly, the eye colour. Brown/black eyes are uninspiring. They are the colour of the void, of dirt, of rotting leaves, of shit, coal, blackness beneath the earth. Bright colour eyes are the colour of flowers, the sky, the ocean, the greenish sea.

White people are just naturally more premium beauty because more parameters are available to maximise beauty. Black people can only ever have kinky hair texture, poop skin and poop eyes. They have to bleach their hair and dye it colours to get an identity.

You'll notice most black people never are 'vanilla' with their look. They all try and style their hair or have to do all this copium with bleached tips and red roots and accessories, because their natural body lacks any character customisation.
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>>737870492
Didn't this game take a long time to make? As in, effort was taken to make it this shit.
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>>737870549
whole lotta cope
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>>737870486
"western scenario writers"...interesting. So they thought what we got was in any way good? It was literally one of those ethnic Disney movies they always used to run on tv.
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>>737868550
>130 people
>not a single one of them thought to tell their manager that the product is bad.
>not a single one of them tried to just make it good
Why are Western Devs like this?
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>>737870549
>black and brown people tend to always have a hint of urine
is there any study that link dark skin color with urine smell?
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>>737870706
>130 retards on 4chan thread
>none of them played the game
>none of them have critical thinking skills
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>>737870706
The devs were japanese, it was the tards under Tabata, same people a FF15 more or less.
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>>737870706
>>not a single one of them thought to tell their manager that the product is bad.
>>not a single one of them tried to just make it good
>Why are Western Devs like this?
It is a offense against the false god of jewish liberalism to say anything or do anything about a strong, independent black woman character
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>>737868550
>ugly main character
Talk about a false fucking premise, lmao. Game blew because Squeenix invested too much in a action-adventure with western writers, who was going to promote the game. Protagonist is literally played by a model, as is the supporting character.
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>>737870879
In the west, models are hired to look bad for demoralization propaganda
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>>737870706
The cope is that it's a culture of "toxic positivity", but really it's the same old story that has always happened throughout history in hierarchical organisations.
A bunch of ass kissers will say everything is fine and overhype results to get ahead within the organisation, and this continues until they are inevitably faced with reality.
The Russians genuinely thought they can conquer Ukraine in three days, because everyone downstream from Putin fed him nice sounding bullshit about the state of the military.
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>>737870706
>Why are Western Devs like this?
Rebellion talked about it be hell working with a Japanese publisher because they straight up ignore western people. They said they told Konami over and over and over again "This game sucks. We really need to rethink the gameplay." and Konami was just "What would white devils know about making video games? If you think it sucks that must mean it's great!"

Eidos had the same to say about Square. Grin said the same about Capcom. Kojima said it was basically impossible to convince anyone in the Japanese game industry there is anything to learn from western devs. Racism is rampant in the Japanese game industry.
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>>737870418
The answer will surprise you
>get a reasonably good overseas writer to write and storyboard the first prototype of the game
>Go through a mid project reboot because of the expense and (lack of) faith in the project, now you have to chase trends
>FFXV was THE best selling Final Fantasy and a not so insubstantial amount of that was appealing to the west
>So your scenario writer, your project manager, your producer, AND your director (all Japanese) want to jump on a few trends and try to replicate a miracle
>Throw out the entire first WORLD by Gary Whitta, ask him to write it again, he tells you to fuck off, he's not available
>Amy Hennig, the person who wrote the first script that you literally threw away is no longer on the project and she was the second best
>so now your writers are Allison Rymer, and Todd Stashwick, both literally unqualified nepo hires Amy Henig promoted
>They proceed to showcase their lack of talent

The facial capture was also legendarily dogshit.
>Continuing the nepotism trend Tom Keegan uses Goodbye Kansas studio (a reminder that Square for the past three games before that did their mo-cap in house)
>a literal consulting firm was brought in to rewrite both Frey and multiple characters as well as how she's allowed to look
Frankly it was the perfect storm and a showcase in why Nepotism is a fucking plague on this industry.
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>>737870665
You posted an ugly brown dog with brown hair and brown skin and brown eyes that exists in 95% of the human population.
Congrats on your below mediocre taste.
If Forspoken was a pasty cute white blonde girl with firm butt it would've blown up.
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>>737870817
Tabata really autistic/naive or what?
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>>737870909
Why is a NAFO faggot on this board?
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>>737870996
He's the same idiot that killed Parasite Eve with the third birthday.
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>>737868550
If you think about it, it's a Square game about a black mage
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>>737871005
Because Gay Marriage is Non-negotiable.
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>>737870957
>>Amy Hennig, the person who wrote the first script that you literally threw away is no longer on the project and she was the second best
lol

Haven't heard?

Amy Hennig has been exposed as a fraud taking credit for other people's work for all these years. There's a reason nobody gave a fuck about her before Uncharted and nobody has given a fuck about her after Uncharted. She's crap.
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>>737868970
>What do you mean this salad sucks? It only has 25% of poop in it! Yummy!
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>>737871054
Get your off topic kike shit the fuck out of here
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>>737869348
>there's literally schools that teach how to be a corporate spy
is this the evolution of shinobi?
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>>737868850
>>737868928
>>737870196
wow yea so ugly
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>>737871106
Now post what she looks like in game
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>>737871045
>She will rob
The funny thing is this is not a joke. She literally does. She starts the game in court for being a thief, and then gets attacked by people she ripped off after the courts just let her go for no raisin and the reason she gets transported to the new world is because she was stealing some magical trinket from someone and when she gets transported to the new world one of the first things she does is rob someone. And this is our "hero".
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>>737871106
hey man, address what I said. She (the character) has no fashion collabs, signifigant rule34, or crossovers. Fax.
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>>737869348
They had to learn what comes to the cacuasian naturally
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>>737871123
She just has the same problem a lot of characters in modern games have, where the model technically is fine, but looks really fucked when the lighting or animations are off in situations.
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>>737871298
then why does she have so little rule34 mr. goldberg? Answer my fucking points above.
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>>737870909
>The Russians genuinely thought they can conquer Ukraine in three days, because everyone downstream from Putin fed him nice sounding bullshit about the state of the military.
Ukraine is normal today like it was 2 years ago
Basket tournaments, night life, football, tourism. It's just East part of Ukraine where the poorest people live that is at war. A few months ago a new israeli company installed many LED screens in Kiev, similar to Times Square, there is no shortage of food or items.
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>>737871364
Not even the same guy you were replying to, retard.
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>>737871248
More that it just so common and there's so many countermeasures in place that you need to be taught how to defeat them.

The west doesn't have anything even close to the level of corporate espionage that asia has. It's just not how white people generally are. But to the gook being a manipulative thief and betraying those that trust you just comes natural so they have so many eyes on their staff at all times.
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I love how they couldn't resist their representative empowered black Queen a trashy thief and criminal who chimps out at every opportunity. Way to deny the stereotypes
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>>737871435
then you're both retarded and giving bullshit answers based on no evidence or factual basis. You just personally like the character but she's ugly and doesn't have media content. Fuckkng retard.
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>>737870957
>consulting firm
I bet it was run by jewish people
Israelis are so evil they really think curly hair and empowered women who obey some Bossberg can be transported into the world of videogames

It would be the same as make a series about Palestinians getting revenge and killing jews, being shown as heroes and this series is forced on Israeli TV 5 days a week
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>>737870196
>her model is unpopular on rule34
Shit games get little artistic attention
Wow! You stupid fuck.

This is a very pretty character
But her game was shit so she also gets next to no fan art.
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>>737871596
>muh jews
Nigger you're white or a mutt that works a 9/5 and will die in obscurity after a long life of getting your opinion fed to you by others
Shut the fuck up.
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Japanese or chinese devs should have some fun with jews
Like make a game suggesting palestinians are heroes fighting for democracy and jews are fighting for terrorism
Palestinians Uncharted, a palestinian explorer fighting corrupt and terrorist jews. But put democracy in the context to make them more upset
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>>737871527
Pure projection. I don't like her or the game, but it's simple fact that it's a common issue.
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>>737870417
Imagine Xtreme Beach Volleyball but with the Forspoken cast, do you think it would have saved anything other than the money in your wallet?
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>>737871616
I didnt think the game was bad, but from day 1 people either organically or not said they would boycott this release

Here and on twitter, there where spam against this game. It's a fun budget title with repetitive combat but has at least 12 hours of story, it's not that unfinished.
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>>737871616
the last of us is shitty, yet Ellie gets far more attention even from people that never played her sony walking sim. Your example has no 3d model to rip, and requires commissions to create completely original material. Bad example. 3D models get a shit to more material, yet your little niggy doesn't. You're just a retard, I'm sorry.
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>>737871712
No, I used data to back up my claim, you have none. You have no argument, only rhetoric.
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>>737868796
This bitch is ugly as fuck. I'd say invest in some glasses.
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>>737870418
Back then, the nips copied what the americans did and gave it a nip touch. Americans did cool stuff, so it worked
Nowadays, the nips copy what the americans do and give it a nip touch. Americans now do trash (it's propaganda, selling is secondary), so it sucks
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People will pay 90 dollars for Black Ops IIII but they wont give a chance to games like code vein
CIA brainwash really worked in the west, it's not a coincidence that hundreds of agents who have children and even grandchildren protected Epstein, a man who they knew were raping kids and selling drugs, using all types of illegal activities to do whatever he wanted

There were more people protecting him than people inside his circle. We are talking about more than 2 decades of private security provided by the CIA and FBI

It means you cant trust american people, unfortunately.
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>>737871773
>the last of us is shitty
The last of us out sold nearly every single game released that year
It objectively has people that like it
>no 3d model to rip
Wrong again
Stupid fuck.

No clue why the hill you retardedly chose to die on is related to porn statistics. I guess coach from Left 4 Dead 2 is peak human attraction. Your mother should have swallowed.

>>737871761
>said they would boycott this release
They ended up being right accidentally. I bought the game only to be hit with an ultimately serviceable if not completely underwhelming experience that I wouldn't have purchased otherwise had the name "Valkyrie" not been attached to it. It's not a Covenant of the Plume situation where that game was still enjoyable on it's own merit
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>>737871106
when you're redpilled about niggers, it's impossible to see anything positive about them, okay I might not have to vomit when I look at her but she's got that nigger gene so you know she's an insufferable cunt
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>>737871842
nah
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>>737868550
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>>737871931
>The last of us out sold nearly every single game released that year
lol

it wasn't even in the top 10
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>>737870260
The writing/characterization seems the biggest sore spot. Lots of 'ugly' characters in gaming (by design) who end up liked because they're good fellows and/or funny.
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>>737871947
except not all black people are niggers

estimates vary but very unlikely to be more than 30% of black people are niggers
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>Black Girl Gamers has partnered with technology organisations including Intel to support inclusivity initiatives,[3] run workshops, provided consulting services, and facilitated brand opportunities for streamers

>The writing team includes Gary Whitta and Amy Hennig, while Black Girl Gamers provided consultation on the characterization of Frey.

ndreds of Jewish organizations expressed support, for example:

Over 400 Jewish groups and synagogues signed a public letter supporting Black Lives Matter
Later, 600+ Jewish organizations signed a full-page ad backing the movement
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>>737872023
cope
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>>737871931
It was shit bro, normie sales don't translate into underaged Ellie porn. If so why didn't you post the 3d model, instead using a 2d concept art piece? Are you retarded?
Porn stats make a strong correlation to attraction. Coach fulfills a fetish, a popular one. Thus your example is moot. You are a bad monkey.
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>>737871687
I mean, the Chinese don't like the Palestinians either, do they? I think they have a lot of problems with Muslims.
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>>737871931
the PS Vita remaster bundled with it makes it absolute worth though
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About the Last of Us, Neil Druckmann the jew who wrote and directed it, even he knew the character should be a cute white girl

He played safe and the game sold 10 million units.
The lesbo kiss in the DLC is seen simply as a proto-Fuck Trump thing

Speaking of fuck Trump it's so amazing the biggest supporters of Trump are not inbred americans but rather people like Sacha Baron Cohen and Neil Druckmann

Also Days Gone, the girl is not gorgeous but is a regular white girl, for those who enjoy story in video games it was something normies enjoyed a lot, they even became upset when Sony closed the studio
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>>737870954
and they are completely right. The way westerns do business is more akin to a controlled demolition scheme to get rid of the competition. The sentiment is right but they got blind thinking that is a perfect shield for criticism.
And also, it is weird that they decided to make a black woman the protagonist if they are so racists as you say.
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>>737871056
>t. neil cuckmann
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>>737868796
The devs somehow took this and turned it into this >>737871842



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