>constant tits and ass marketing>"gamer" as a word gets astroturfed to hell>most Japanese games are labeled "weird">washed up celebrity cameos in games and at award shows>Guitar Hero meals at KFC and Mountain Dew buttchugging contests sponsored by XBOX >G4 hiring Playboy models to interview nerds at conventions This was cringe even back then but it also was the last time I knew about most games that were coming out. Can you look back on this era with nostalgia or was it the beginning of the end?
>>738204570Yeah I have nostalgia for this eraFelt like it was the last time when people were aloud to have fun when talking about games Everything feels too toothless or forced now
>>738204570The xenpihobia from that era was so weird.
>>738204770It isn't when you realize who writes their paychecks. The Western Game industry is the one that pushed the xenophobia, the game journalists were just their face.
>>738204570I'd shoot my web into Morgan if you're understanding what my implications are here.
>>738204896The Xbox codename was project Midway. Those guys were fully anti jap.
>>738204570>constant tits and ass marketing>G4 hiring Playboy models to interview nerds at conventionsExcellent angle tbqh
>>738204570Miss those days
>>738204570I jerked to Morgan Webb till my cock was sore
>>738204570Yeah, a TV channel invented videogames being a male hobby.
>>738204570Among younger anons G4 is known as:>That dead youtube channel with the blonde host who went on an infamous rant
>>738204770>from that eraIt never stopped.
Trisha Hershberger >
>>738206498Sad, but true.Now instead of mocking Japan as a whole they only look down on parts that don't have a wide appeal.>Resident Evil & Souls gameCan't touch that.>Fatal Frame & Code VeinPoint & laugh, also censor them.
I love how Morgan actual was a huge gamer and worked as a programmer before TecvTV, while Sessler was a failed wannabe comedian they hired for cheap because he looked like a nerd. I would drag my spread ass through a mile of shattered glass for a single night with prime Morgan
>>738204570>Can you look back on this era with nostalgia or was it the beginning of the end?I'm nostalgic for it still. Especially my favorite shows like the two Cinematechs and Arena. The E3 coverage was also kinoIt was the peak GAMER era even if things may have already been declining after the merger with TechTV, heralding the descent in its programming from nerd shows to gamer shows to reality dogshit to the kiss of death, Cops reruns.2007 though was the extinction event and it was entirely uninvolved with G4 thanks to the advent of the smartphone, Big Bang Theory, Facebook and Tumblr blowing up, and countless other doomsday level happenings all occurring simultaneously
>>738204570The best thing about G4 was the E3 coverage.By the way, anyone remember Mag Rack's gaming videos that you could find through cable on demand? I think the gamer part was called 24Seven Gamer.
>>738204570>constant tits and ass marketingthis didn't start with g4 you retarded zoomer
>>738207795>2007I'd say the wheels started coming off G4 in about 2005, but I agree with your premiseG4 haters are really blind to the sheer level of SOVL the network had its first couple yearsLook at all of that 2002-2005 programming, pure kino
>>738204570This era was simultaneously soulless and soulfulI guess because what would come after it would be far worse
>>738204570morgan was cuter when she worked as a part of screensavers before xplay
>>738208272Cinematech and Cheat! were my favorites. In fact, Cinematech introduced me to several new video games I wouldn't' have known about otherwise.
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>>738209576>>738204570it's hilarious how unsexy these shoots were and how sexy she was just standing around in a t-shirt and jeans talking about how gay Katamari Damacy was
I miss Portal.
>>738209803They really just let a dude do his bizarre autistic LARP onscreen for two seasonsAt least he had the dignity to never be seen in public again after thatIt's funny that we used to think MMOs were the future when in reality 2004 was the beginning of the end
>>738209925It was a great show and fucking hilarious with absolutely zero budget. He got into commercial production work for a while. I thought it was peculiar that he disappeared his forum and vanished from the internet in the late 2000s.
>>738204570>Can you look back on this era with nostalgia oTo me G4 as this great gamer channel lasted such a short time it might as well be forgotten. I can only assume that people liked much of what I would deem the shit years of G4 because I cannot understand otherwise. G4 merged with Tech TV and once the merger was complete the channel was good imo for maybe a couple of years before it started to go to shit. Not that I preferred Tech TV but it seemed that the corporate suits at the channel hated gaming from the get go to me.Do you guys seriously not remember that G4 was the Cops and Cheaters channel for like 70% of its run or some shit as a channel? Eventually all what remained from the older days was X-Play. So I liked the channel but I ultimately don't get the nostalgia for it since the good times barely lasted.
>>738209967laura was so hot
>>738204570>constant tits and ass marketingThis has been a thing since before I was born and I'm older than most on this board.
>>738204570Why did Morgan and Sessler have such a hate boner for japanese games? It almost sounded personal with their attacks.
>>738205345>project Midway
>>738210150>literally just hire a woman who has no idea how to actually sit on a chair to spend half an hour reading GameFAQs to you>pure kinohow did they do it
>>738210084kek based show
>>738210150God almighty those legs
>>738204570>>738210074>>738210150women used to be so hot. we need to go back.
>>738210414
I feel so sorry for kids nowadays that will never have this and are fed nothing but gay shit.
>>738210513really miss it when hot women were just enjoyed as a great part of being alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHsNEfVwaAWhat the fuck were they thinking lol
>>738210513i know :(
>>738210625One of Portal's episodes begins with a Filter intro while Dave stands in the back with his mouth open drooling, as he's having a daydream lol
>>738210625That girl was in Austin Powers for five secondsThey were a very important five seconds
>>738204570It was always known as cringe shit on /v/. Pic related was written almost 20 years ago now. Only zoomers look back fondly on this.
>>738204971I don't quite pick up what you're putting down?
>>738204570Morgan "man jaw" Webb was a true gem. Xplay ended and and just fucked off to be with her husband and have a kid instead of being a terminally online coke addicted Lefty troon like Adam.
>>738204570TnA marketing was happening years before G4 so while the rest of your post is fine, that bit makes you a bit "sus" as the kids would say
>>738210108I have a strong feeling it was mostly Adam.
>>738210913She actually worked with Blizzard as a "consultant" for a little while.
uh oh, the snoypiggies are oinking again, what riled them up this time?
>>738210913>>738211117Last I checked she was the "social director" or something for her husband's company. They don't actually seem to do much of anything at that company, must be a pretty sweet gig.
That phase represented an attempt by the United Jewish States of America to reclaim the video game culture they'd lost to Japan in the 1980s. All these strategies are typical of the Jewish-American cultural industry. They failed, and then they tried to subvert games anyway in 2010's, and failed again.That's why video game players are so hated and frequently compared to Nazis, Hitler, etc. There's something about video games that makes people immune to Jewish tactics.
>>738211754Her husband is the guy who made Napster so yeah he's hood rich.
KILL A HOOKERIT'S GAME TIMEADAM SESSLER AND MOOOOOOORGAN WEBB
>>738204570I was jerking off to PlayStation magazine when it was still Tech TV.
>>738212039the narrator got away with so much hahah
>>738204570never heard of this girl to be quite honest with you guys
>>738211993but napster was free?
>>738211993>hood richIs this some nigger slang that I'm not aware of
>>738212103They professed their attraction to underage characters all the time. Hell, I think they literally called girls jailbait more than once.Better times...
>>738211993>>738211754Rhapsody. To make things increasingly confusing, they call it Napster now, but it has nothing to do with the original Napster pirate service.But yeah Rhapsody was one of the first music streaming services before Spotify ate everybody, and Robert Reid got out at the right time with a quarter billion dollar paycheck.It's actually hilarious that there was a time that being a 6/10 chick who plays video games could land you a husband with a nine digit net worth
>>738212219I didn't use the term properly there but yes, "hood rich" refers to blacks who get rich off selling drugs. Illegal money, that sort of thing. It's why they carry lots of straight cash on them.>>738212389Aw shit, it was Rhapsody this entire time? Yeah I remember the program.
>>738204570I bought Katamari after their reviewhttps://youtu.be/2DoP5E81fcQ?si=1IN0U2mn6xaQuQV-
>>738204570It's the opposite of cringe lmao, you must be one of the gayest weebs to ever exist.
>>738212494>this entire timeThat's the confusing and unnecessary partThe "real" Napster is long gone, mostly due to policeThe Napster name was revived for some thrice-rebooted Rhapsody serviceBut that's neither here nor there to Morgan Webb's personal fortune, because her man got out early, almost like a little known weirdo named Elon Musk who helped launch an obscure site called PayPal and then accepted his golden parachute days after they partnered with eBay because nobody there wanted to deal with him anymore
>>738210108They gave good Jap games good scores. Retarded zoomers trying to figure this shit out now rubs me the wrong way. Most Jap games are middling at best, every now and again you see something good. Adam and Morgan knew this very well. They made fun of how tropic those shitty games were.
>>738210790I'm 30. I want to go back
>>738204570Has /v/-sings done a parody of this where it's G4-ornication?>>738209765She's like slightly above average girl at your school when it comes to her face. But then the rest of her magazine-tier glamorous. Kinda sexy and kinda cool and kinda attainable. That's probably why a bunch obsessed over her.
>>738212507>DUDE DRUGSi'm good.
>>738210790It was objectively better than the current state of things
>>738210108You can go watch their reviews on YouTube. People think this because they gave xenosaga games 3/5s and joked about how many cuts cents there were. They also shitted on games with awful voice acting/localization
I feel bad for burgers that they had to grow up with this corpo garbage. In France we had a dedicated gaming TV channel like 5 years before you guys (probably the first in the world, maybe outside Japan), it basically invented the let's play format and was already teaching kids about 'retro' in the 90's, it was ran by passionate weebs (a lot of documentaries about Japanese gaming culture, they even aired fansubs of Gainax anime), and the journos collectively quit and exposed their corpo overlords live on the air when they started being pressured to shill trash.
>>738210589worse, they're fed puritan shit
>>738213080What is it with french fries and their pretentiousness. We get it, you like little girls.
I can't believe this is literally from 20 years agoHe was a real life meme before he was an internet memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b727mLsSskY
>>738213343>that time Space Ghost made him madhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLlFpww1G14
>>738213343There's screencaps of him in the '90s on UseNet telling people to buy Daggerfall
>>738212584I'm old and remember when GameSpot had their employees put money in a jar whenever they said gamer unironically. It was a sort of braindead time in retrospect. Fun, and still had soul, but I'm not sure if it's worth missing. What replaced it being so shit in comparison does not absolve it.
i give this thread a 1..................................out of 5.
I think a lot of you guys just miss more comedic review styles which to be fair are hard to find as everything has took a more serious turn online...for almost everything including 4chan.
AND HERE ARE YOUR HOSTS
>>738204770>>738206498>>738207094>>738205345What's so wrong about xenophobia? Literally, just because it was practiced by a company of faggots doesn't mean that it's wrong to be critical of foreigners and foreign manufacturers, even if companies will work for them because 1) it's cheaper, 2) it's cheaper, 3) it's cheaper, 4) it's cheaper, 5) it's cheaper, 6) it's cheaper 7) the foreigners complain less(?).
>>738213281Nothing pretentious about hating the type of shit in the OP, half the thread agrees it was garbage. I'm just seeing that burgers did not know anything better and that sucks because gaming culture would be better if they had known better alternatives. Same with anime. Burger weebs always act like they were persecuted.
>>738204570>Net denizen
I miss it, last era where gaming was about dumb fun and not all this polishit we're forced to acknowledge now
>>738204570>Cindy Margoliswho?
>nothing pretentious about hating attractive womenOK, FAG
>>738204570It was kino, and gaming was fun back then. Just a lot of us grew up in that cusp, and got to see tech advance and you couldn't wait to play a new game. Or run to the drug store to get gaming mags and flip through them constantly. The demo disks with them, and aol gaming themed chat rooms that werent filled with literal half retarded faggots like 4chan.
>>738215034remember when something would be the biggest most hyped game in the world, then it came out and it was exactly as good as you imagined it would be
>>738210513>>738210625>>738210662At least I know it isn't just me. Something about women from the 2000s and even the early 2010s really makes me feel happy and alive yet sad because we'll never get it back on a larger scale.
When was this made? Because that looks like just a shallow copy of NBC GIGA from Germany.
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>>738217316
>>738204570I liked TechTV and I despised G4 for ruining the thing I liked and replacing it with dudebros and failed models selling corn chips to retards.
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>>738217380>>738217456I can't describe this without sounding like a schizo but it's like people from the 2000s had more expression in their faces? They look more like real people to me. I can't explain it better than that.
>>738217087>>738210625What you miss is media pandering to the 12-24 male demo almost exclusively because that was where the disposable income was
>>738217440>posted it multiple times in the same thread award
>>738217632Jesus ChristAnon that there is what's called a "customer service smile."It's phony and forced and has fallen out of favor in popular media because it comes across as inauthentic. Because it's inauthentic.You can still see it every single day on network news if you really want.
>>738217632Because those people were your people from next door. Students who got auditioned, hired and one hour of basics told, than sent before the cam - “You will figure that out“.
>>738218827wow you really are a fucking moron huh
>>738204570>The G4-ification of Video Games>America is the world
>>738210150gayass janny
>>738210625Yeah man, seriously. I remember a time long ago when seeing a good looking woman was just a treat, and there was no hate or anything it was tainted by. I know it is not just me getting older and more bitter, because I still see stuff like this, or old Playboy babes, or old hot movie stars, or even literal old porn stars, and don't get bad vibes from them. But now, it's like every woman that is hot on a screen or whatever is also someone I just fucking hate, too. Just a cunt.
>>738213080France is a culture that goes into full revolt if people ask them to give up leisure and art for more work, America is a culture that worships being exploited 24/7 to your dying breathOf course France would have something run as a passion project and the US would have a soulless corporate hellmouth.
>>738219632>I know it is not just me getting older and more bitterIt is.There is no shortage of attractive women on film and the only baggage you bring to it is your own.
>>738217087>Something about women from the 2000s and even the early 2010sthey weren't as fat and weren't covered in shitty tattoos and piercings yet
>>738219632>>738219751I dont see any girl thats hot anymore on tv or film. Granted I don't really watch any tv shows but I still watch movies.
>>738219805>>738219910
>>738204570>>constant tits and ass marketingThis was ALL marketing before the 2010s. >This was cringe even back then You clearly weren't even alive back then so how would you know.
>>738219957Why would I be angry at Cloud
>>738204570Man I miss Morgan but will always resoect her for just deciding to stay true to herself and live her life with her husband instead of constantly trying to be "current year" pathetically try to post woke platitudes online in an attempt to stay relevant like so many old gaming personas. Like imagine if she just showed up on social media to whine about how all the sexy shoots that made her famous were actually the most evil and exploitive thing to ever exist.
>>738220236Can you imagine being forced to cohost with a coked up Adam Sessler and read copy from a group of failed late night writers?>>738220085I was alive back then and it was fucking cringe. TechTV was great and G4 ate them and pandered to retards and cavemen to sell junk food and dogshit baby FPS games like Cawadooty.
>>738219664I was shocked when I learned American network TV had ad breaks like every 5 minutes. Any European would be shocked I think.Anyway that channel had a great ~4 years or so before it got fucked over by corpo interests, it was early cable so they were under no/little oversight. Then Atari/Infogrammes became major shareholder and tried to force the staff to push their published games and give them good reviews, so like I said they revolted and collectively quit live on the air. /v/ loves good stories about journo and publisher corruption, gamespot(?)'s Kane & Lynch story, etc. that was a really crazy happening for me as a gaming kid and those guys were awesome for exposing them. Then Atari got sued and died, MTV or Viacom bought the channel and turned into sanitized G4-like where they put clueless hot girls and normie hosts with a general "how do you do fellow kids" tone.Anime-wise they went from airing Miyazaki-era Lupin III, obscure OVAs and Gainax deep cuts to Naruto. Total corpo death.
fuck jannies
>>738208272>>738204770>>738204896>>738213967The weird thing about the xenophobia from those times was also that g4 was also the only place you could watch stuff like japan's ninja warrior or kinniku banzuke
I thought it was cringe back then and didn't relate with it. I was fine with the era up to early 2003 or so, but the dudebro era sucked.
>>738220834Nice legs and I'm surprised she never bothered me. Yeah she's nerd wank bait but she carried herself well enough to talk about games without being annoying like most women who speak are
>>738204570Yeah, tits and ass in video games never existed before G4.Sure, history revisionist redditspacer.
It's funny to watch the kind of retarded slop-slurping console kiddies 4chan despised, all grown up, defending Spike TV's abortion of a co-network.
>>738204770>They don't worship my big eyed girl cartoons. They must be (((xenophobic))) They were taking the piss outta weebs like you exactly for this reason
>>738221010gottem, newfriend
>>738220994>I Have no Soul and I Must Sneed
>>738219957t. fat tattooed roastie
>>738213967Xenophobia is wrong as the criticism is based on who made the thing rather than the quality of the thing itself. Think about it this way, if a white man and an indian man posted the same AI art, both would have produced slop.
>>738204570I would eat a dump from prime Morgan Webb. I did not like Olivia Munn either.
>boomers still talk daily about a shitty show they watched growing up as a kid
>>738208272That list is leaving out the two GOATs, the original Ninja Warrior and Unbeatable Banzuke
>>738221484>zoomer trying to fit ing4's audience isn't boomer, kid
>>738220097>does not know about chemtrails If you dont yell at them enough, they reach critical mass and destroy the whole neighborhoods property value.
>>738208272I don't remember half of this stuff being on the channel
>>738221554Ironic, because their audience was primarily zoomers
>>738204570last bastion for straight white men right there, no shock that neo/v/ dislikes it
>>738222474Shh, don't make them aware. It could be too painful for them
>>738213080Huh, I just feel plain bad for modern French people. Leafs invented the Lets Play formula with Video and Arcade Top10, by the way. Sorry!
>>738208272Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi was great
>>738222474There's no fucking way Chocolate Milk Kid was their target audience.
>that time she tried doing a daily web news vlog and went overboard with the facial expressions every time
>>738223217my autistic narcissist wife
>>738204570you forgot the sometimes subtle sometimes not so much dudebro US army recruitment messaging in X-play and Arena through Americas Army and in ad breaks. there was even an icons mini doc about army games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM2OdLFln_k
>>738208272Code Monkeys was so good.
>>738223795no it wasn't
>>738204570>>738204730>>738205586>most of the western gaming industry has already spent the last decade bending over for these spiteful mutants>actual sex appeal is only in pockets (mostly confined to gacha games)nd shit fits are thrown when some games with it still come out (e.g stellar blade)>yet in 2026 over leftist retards still cry that apparently ever video games women is still hypersexualized and still spew sarkeesian talking points (e.g bayonetta will make young girls eat themselves to death!!!).>still seethe about games that either are niche or censored (doa beachball) or old design like the old mortal kombat ones when they haven't been like that for like 15 yearsWhy are these "people" like this bros? This video has over 26k likes in 7 days and most of the comments are still Sperging about sexy vidya women when sex appeal is literally dead in western media because of these peoplehttps://youtu.be/STuffFl6-jc
>>738225801have you considered drinking bleach
>>738204570this shit was always mocking its customer base. People look back on it as them treating gamers as these cool gigachads but if you were alive back in the day these things were always backhanded and dripping with "Yea, we know what you fucking retards like!" overtones.
a better time...
>>738225801>why arent games sexualizing menThey do all the time and never stopped but woman will say "n-no thats a male fantasy"Bruh, all my sisters seriously watched Berserk just because they thought griffith and guts were hotAll three only played the OG RE4 because they thought Leon was hot.I once had a gf who only played Nier because she thought that daddy version was hotI know 3 mother fucking female coworkers who are going to see the new Heman movie because 'he-man is hot'Its always been this way
>>738226139These spiteful mutants will never be happy even when the things they hate are confined to niches and certain pockets. Look at that comment section, full of toasties and normalfags seething as if games are still a "boys club". It goes much deeper than what you said too, these subhumans hate natural sex differences between men and women innately and their ideal utopia is a world full of androgynous, sexless, faceless blobs. The faggot who made this video is a guy who likes men assses whose mad that most people don't want to see his fetishes on display
>>738226315No, seriously, I think it would be best for everyone if you drank some bleach.
>>738222480>straight white menhey, that's me!
>>738226348sybau
>>738226348say it without crying
>>738226453Why am I wrong for showing how this 2024 anita sarkeesian rhetoric is actually growing more prominent and getting worse?
>>738226457This is who he's defending
>>738226453>>738226457>>738226486>>738226520gen alpha phoneposters need to fuck off forever
>>738226520All of the most powerful and accomplished men in history have had to jerk off to a pair of tits, its human nature. What the fuck does he think people were doing when prostitution was still legal?
>>738226618Because they unironically believe that what men find feminine and attractive (big breasts, curves, hips etc.) are social constructs meant to oppress women and not an evolutionary adaptation that's deeply embedded
>>738204570Just binged through code monkeys, it was retarded and cringe in all the right ways:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyshwOonvFs&pp=ygUMQ29kZSBtb25rZXlz
>>738204570G4 was mostly always whack but i did like portal and that one show that just exclusively played game clips or trailers.>>738204770we're still in that era
>>738213967Writing something off purely because of where it came from is just retarded. If you're smart and tasteful you'll recognise when others have good ideas.
>>738225970So who did win vixen of the year?
>>738227025i think it was rikku
>>738204570The normalfag invasion of video games around the seventh gen was really just the first domino to fall for the entire industry to turn to complete shit.
>>738227465Seventh gen was literally the peak of console sales.It's crazy, revenue keeps going up staked to microtransactions and subscriptions, of course the Switch and PS4 were quite successful, but nothing in the two decades since has compared to the PS3 *and* 360 *and* Wii *and* DS *and* PSP selling more than 80 million units, each
>>738204570sounds fun to me
>>738208187I don't remember gaming content but I remember watching really bad breakdancing tutorials on Mag Rack
>>738227837Yes, this supports my point
>>738204570This is an incredibly unflattering picture>fat ass jaw despite half the face being hidden behind hair>face like mj>square body despite the contorted angle>no ass, no thighs Yet somehow I'm supposed to cream myself over this or something
>>738229369It's ok, anon, not everyone is attracted to women.
>>738229428very creative reply for sure but given the context of printing her as this "wow she's hot AND a gamer?" full page thing, she should've probably been more than a 6/10
>>738229512>blah blah blahI just told you it's ok to be a faggot you don't need to justify yourself to me
>>738225801Like, I get some of what he's trying to say, but honestly, america needs more eating disorders again.We're a bunch of fat fucks, we're only getting fatter, and "fat pride" is literally killing people. We need to go back to fat shaming and closet anorexia.
>>738229575Brown
>>738229878Why are you describing yourself?It is that time of night when you people start waking up isn't it
>>738225801People will say shit like this then scroll tiktok for 5 hours where everyone is some filtered up narcissist beast and every video is "mogging" and the only purpose is to make you feel bad for being inadequate
>>738229932hope you're a bot because this is incredibly cringe
>>738229970Anon you might be retarded if that's how you think bots respond.It's time to stop posting.
>>738230064gave you an out and you didn't take it, oh well. Tired of these redditors who come here to act like edgy teens because they heard that's how you have to behave on 4chanif you just want to spam>lolz fag fag fag! you can go on /b/
>>738210150>>738210513>>738210074shiny metallic eye shadow and lip gloss need to come back
>actual anons simping for morgan webb ittjesus
>>738230256Gay
>>738230145>gave you an outlmao why the fuck would I want an "out?" You're a little bitch boy whining that the traditionally attractive woman with huge tits isn't hot enough and I'm making fun of your pathetic ass. You're not even fighting back, you're literally just crying.
>>738210790halo 3 was good thoughever
>>738204570G4 has been dead for a long time and the revival failed, move on already.
>>738212259"jailbait" was such a casual thing back then. No one even uses the tern now because the idea is so verboten
>>738227296nice. deserved
>>738229369anon above was correct in the observation that she looked sexier talking to the camera in just t shirts and jeans compared to glamour style shots. just look at >>738213474 for instance, like, fuck
>>738204570Vidya declined like pic relatedThe Mountain Dewrito era was dumber and shittier than the mid 90s which was dumber and shittier than the 80s-early 90s, but it hadn't gotten all that bad yet.The terminal decline started halfway through Gen 7 where the early forms of all the modern cancer (Minecraft, lootboxes, micro DLCs instead of expansions, p2w being the norm, etc.) started.The industry was unrecognizable by the time the 7th Gen ended and it's just been getting worse every year since.
>>738213967if they want people to buy western games they should be making games people want to buy
>>738204770>from that eraxbox openly showed tits and sold the kasumi body pillow with xbox bundle, now they would ban for saying something mean
>>738204570What was gaming like from 1987-97? What did it feel like unc?
>>738232681bags of sand
>>738204570I remember stroking the shit out my dick to her when I was 14