Balan bros....https://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/05/the-most-miserable-person-i-have-ever-worked-with-this-former-sega-exec-has-a-dim-view-of-yuji-naka
>>739810839archive link
I thought japanese were heckin wholesome when talking about their former bosses or industry legends.
>>739811129Honestly would have been based
>>739811001Naka is just that much of a heel that anyone that works with him seems to throw him under the bus later.
>>739811001No way. Remember that Konami employee who called his boss the devil and attacked him with a fire extinguisher
>>739811001literally what made you think this?
>>739810839He's so autistic he imbued everything he made with a strange autism power that attracted legions of mentally ill people. Of course he was annoying to work with.
>>739811001He's not japanese, and the japanese are the most prideful fucks around as soon as they reach any sort of management position.
>>739810839>the man who rages against the stormHe's a legend
>>739811001American cutthroat business is a playground compared to JP working conditions.
>>739810839>literal who talking about literal who
>>739811001Even if that were true, Naka is in prison and his name carries negative weight in the industry.
Balan is iconicWho the fuck is Billy Hatcher?
>>739811001you do not know what an NDA can do to a person.
>>739811001and talking about jews (not kike or other slur) send you to jail, yet we are here in 4chan
>>739811129Giant Cock and the Fertile Egg
>>739811409Newfag
>>739811001Once the mandatory social norms break down, the Japanese go fucking NUTS.
>>739811129>>739810839Why is this article propagated both on ResetEra and here?It's the most nothing story of the month. "Wow Yuji Naka, who is in prison for insider trading, is a bad dude"So fucking what. Do you wanna boost your social credit score huh? Fuck off. At least Naka was a hardass who made people work through fear, like a lot of effective CEOs have historically done.
It's been well known for decades that Naka is a huge asshole. Now everyone sees him as the guy who made that shitty game with SquareEnix and is a convicted felon. lmao
>>739811658>Fuck off. At least Naka was a hardass who made people work through fear, like a lot of effective CEOs have historically done.SEGA literally went down hill the moment Naka returned to Japan from America and ascendened the corporate ladder.
>>739811658Naka is a retard who's half responsible for the Saturd dooming Sega.
>actively sabotaged Sonic on Saturn to push NightsAt least Naka is rightfully recognized as a hack.Many similar cases like Kamiya are still worshipped because others managed to salvage his fuckups multiple times.
>>739811658He's in jail. How's that for ruling through fear?
>>739810839Okay but did the guy bitching lead a game as good as S3&K?Or is he going to make a worthy successor to it?Don't care about gay drama show me the game.
>>739811001The interviewee wasn't a Japanese and Naka Yuji is a convict
i liked phantasy star online ver 2 for the pc
>>739811827https://www.mobygames.com/person/41374/mike-fischer/>Square Enix CEO during the last time they could release good gamesHe's alright.
>>739811129me and the homies fucked up playin Giant Cock in da crib
>>739811129so eggs are naka's fetish?are the sonic power up capsules eggs to him?
>>739810839>>739811001Not related but this kinda reminds me of interviews with (white) people who worked in the gaming industry in the 90's and 2000's with Nintendo and the interviewer clearly trying to dig up some dirty stories about Miyamoto and not getting anything badIf anything we got funny stories like how Miyamoto was shocked to see DK with a realistic shotgun in Donkey Kong 64 and sketched the coconut gun in a piece of paper on the fly
>>739811129>"You have to put eggs in all our games.">"Why are you doing this?"
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>>739811263Naka was ahead of his time
>>739811571lmao kek
>>739811129>Can we call the game Giant Cock in English?
>>739811796It's just a symptom of the many things that were always wrong with Japanese game development. The little pagans feel the need to turn every successful studio/developer into a fucking cult.
>>739811443Naka never served a day in prison, he was under house arrest. I don't even think he had to give all of his insider trading winnings back>>739811658Naka is singlehandedly responsible for killing Sega's reign in the 90s. Sega had a Mattel CEO running the American branch and the guy who made the Genesis running the JP branch, and then Naka went from making sonic to running the JP branch. Instantly Sega's dominance folded. When you see industry rumors like "Sega JP were ran by a bunch of clueless fucks who sunk the dreamcast and the Saturn" they don't mean all of Sega JP, they just mean Naka. Who treated all his coworkers and industry partners like shit and made Sega a pariah even among JP companies at the time. Sega at the time was notorious not just for stomping out relationships overseas but also with indie devs in Japan. Who would routinely partner with Sega, get a product 99% made, before getting rugpulled by Naka's bipolar schizophrenic episode of the week. (RIP Treasure) (RIP Compile)
>>739811658>>739811823bruh he never even went to jail he's been tweeting on X like nothing happened the whole time
>>739811129YOU HAVE TO EAT ALL THE EGGS, NAKA-SAN
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>>739812368>the guy who made the Genesis running the JP branch, and then Naka went from making sonic to running the JP branch. Instantly Sega's dominance foldedCan't believe the same shit happened to capcom with inafune, and lesser extent pokemon with masuda. Just character designers somehow finding themselves controlling the reigns of the company.
>>739812761Inafune is an interesting one because while he did try to cut ties with many of Capcom's Japanese talent, his western outreach program paid off big time in spades. It even tricked a number of investors into thinking he was running the company correctly. Capcom even emulates the general premise of the outline he created to pandering to a western audience and marketing Capcom to western companies. It was also pretty much the death of old Capcom AKA the Capcom everyone remembers.
>>739811129>>739811263What was his obsession with eggs
>>739810839Don't worry Yujibros, Shadow Balan will avenge us......Trust the plan.
>>739811242literally every interview with every Japanese dev ever. Even the shit talkers like Kamiya lick the boot once they talk about Jap industry figuresItagaki was about the only person I can think of who shat on another major Jap dev
>>739812614Yup.It's weird how so many people literally have no idea what's a suspended sentence.
>>739812085FUND IT
>>739811338
So it's another Bob Kane/Bill Finger thing?
>>739812651>>739812960What
>>739813126virgilbros... we lost the market...
>>739812368>(RIP Treasure) (RIP Compile)Shmups were dead anyways, look at Cave
I wonder if Kojima is a decent person to work underthere were Konami devs that left to join him and the remaining ones left little easter eggs out of respect in Metal Gear Survive
>>739812651What the fuck was his problem?
>>739811381"American cutthroat business" is just "I know more jews than you do"
>>739813280>I wonder if Kojima is a decent person to work underI wonder what Joosten would say
>>739812960The chunni part is pretty kino IMO
>>739811129Sounds like he's just throwing him under the bus, that's a shitty story for most miserable person I have ever worked with in games.
>sonic creator is a con artist>megaman creator is a con artist
>>739812761Naka isn't even a character designer, he's basically a programmer who got shunted to Producer and put in charge of software without having to prove he can design games.Thats why he got exposed by Balan Wonderworld. It was one time he was solely in charge of the game design.
>>739813254Treasure and Compile did MUCH MORE than Shmups. Did you know one of Treasure's biggest games was called 'Guardian Heroes' and was a Saturn exclusive? No? That's because Sega JP fucked the whole game over when they effectively sent the Saturn out to die in the West with zero development time and zero games on launch, and then started delaying the key games because "ITS NOT 3D NO ONE CARES ABOUT 2D ANYMORE" guess who was behind that push? That's right, the funny balan guy developing Sonic Adventure at the time.Literally fucked every single Japanese dev making a 2D game on the Saturn, which primarily supported 2D games.
>>739813608Akira Kitamura is a con artist?
>>739813040To be fair it's a work thing too everywhere. You don't shit where you eat and all that. I'd figure Jap game industry is especially close-knit too so shit-talk is dishonorabru.
>>739811263>how many games have you made?why do japs only have one comeback? kamiya and sakurai both do this and neither of them have made a good game in years
>>739813254btw the myth that Treasure only made shmups is primarily because of Sega fucking over the Saturn where most of Treasures best games were. Radiant Silvergun came out AFTER Naka got done fucking the console over to make Sonic Adventure look better on the Dreamcast.
>>739811658Would have been funnier if you used one first person pronoun there.
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>>739813762>kamiya and sakurai both do this and neither of them have made a good game in yearsThose two at least have the benefit of being in charge of a development studio. Naka is a genuine fraud that outed himself when he was put in charge of anything himself. They only have one comeback because seniority is the only metric that matters in all development in JP corporate structure. If you've been there longer, and have been part of more projects, your output is automatically better. Never mind that the ideas and concepts behind those projects can still suck like balan.
>>739811129>DADDY, BUY ME GIANT COCK NOW!!!
>>739813928Sakurai is probably the only japanese director who isn't some level of fraud because he has no studio backing him. He's confident enough in his abilities that he freelances and gets dropped on random studios and yet all his games feel like his. If you removed shinkawa from kojima half the quality in his games goes down the toilet.
>>739811129perhaps i treated you too harshly
>>739811001>mike (((fischer)))>japaneseits another case of the enternal Yankee backstabbing
>>739811129Giant cock huh. I like it. Rolls off the tongue.
>>739811658If Yuji Naka is such a cape-swirling epic badass movie villain do you think he could replace my cringeometer that just blew the fuck up on your post
>>739812085you know what now that im seeing it in action here...
>>739813126superb
>>739812614>>739813048>h-he didn't go to prison!Sure dude, he still got convicted though lmao
>>739812761>muh MasudaMasuda was a Sub director as early as Gold and Silver.
>>739810839i actually went through an read the sega-16 article this is referring to, it's a pretty neat read, but naka only gets like, 3 short paragraphs about the shit he didthough i guess the guy DID say "you can quote me on that"
>>739812651>>739812960> fuck the kids they didn’t buy my game
>>739810839is it just me or the article is absurdly short?
>>739815423probably because of >>739815161
>>739815025>make 700 "LMAO GLAD THAT FUCKER IS IN JAIL GETTING ASSRAPED LIKE HE DESERVES!" posts>"o-oh? he never went to prison? he didn't get punished at all? w-well it doesn't matter" lmao the cope
>>739815678NTA, I never said he was in jail. He's still a convicted felon, like Mike said.
>>739812078>>739812085KEK
>>739811129>Convicted felonEvery time I hear this I think it's a dog whistle. I don't know who Mike is, but I am pretty sure he is a faggots.
>>739816276Not like it means much nowadays when one can be both a convicted felon and a president
The game would've sold better out of shock value if it were named Giant Cock
Yuji Naka is a terrible person and most of his games were trash, but I'm glad he exists
>>739812085Say that again...
>>739811129He's the Eggman
>>739810839I forgot that he was trying to sell SE's trade secrets lol enjoy jail you faggot
>>739811658yuji-san...
>>739812651>You have turned me into Shadow Balan.holy kino
How are so many of these big japanese names in the industry such fucking hacks?Yuji Naka, Kamiya, Nagoshi, Inafune, Miyamoto, Kojima, Itagaki. A lot of the most prominent VN writers as well. They create these cults and think they have all figured it out.
>>739810839Is this the dude that got arrested for insider trading? While everyone else made like millions, he only made like $10k?
only someone who is profoundly mentally retarded could have come up with balan wonderworld's name and gameplay so i believe this
>>739810839Isn't this just confirming the obvious? Every story we have about Naka is of him arguing with someone or going to jail.
>>739817865he lost the master plan
>>739818790The japs don't have the culture of constant mockery and namecalling that westchads do which allows these cult personalities to form
>>739811129Naka sounds fucking based and that tranny ex sega employee sounds like a fucking faggot
>>739810839lmao this is a hit piece just because Naka is JapaneseSimilar pieces will come out in time for the likes of MiyamotoSure Naka is kind of crazy but what creator isnt, they just want to destroy all the idols of people for goodFuck these cunts
>>739811658Everyone prefers Japanese stuff to American stuff these days and they're desperately trying to stop it.
>>739816507>the people that want to free convicted murderers are crying because people can succeed in life even if they have a criminal recordcan't make this shit up
>>739810839>>739811212>>739811443>>739811691Say whatever you want, but Naka has always been a man with a vision, something a lot of modern devs lack.We need more Yuji Nakas
>>739811658>le ruling through fear is superior!This mentality is why nobody wants to work anymore and why Peter thiel had to flee America out of fear. Even the most masochistic pigs have had enough by now.Ruling by fear only works when you have goodwill left to exhaust. Once it runs out, it just makes people stop giving a fuck, or worse.
>>739818790Itagaki, Kamiya and Miyamoto aren't hacks though. When they're directing a game, and not acting as managers or producers - they're top tier. Kojima had a great portfolio until he let his ego inflate his head too much.
>>739817865Wait a minute, is Yuji Naka literally the Eggman?
>>739821549You say that because you like them more.
Yuji Naka is the Kanye West of Gaming.
>>739821809he's not mentally ill enough to be the Kanye of gaming he's just kind of a sperg
>>739812651why is he like this
>>739821075What did this guy actually do to get put in a position of such power despite being clearly incompetent?
>>739811129>FischerNone of you faggots realized this is a jew? why would you ever listen to a jew about anything?
>>739821640Well yeah, I like them more because I like their games from their respective golden eras. As I said, I perceive their "downfalls" to be when they left the director position to manage projects, or lead their own companies. There are some people that are inherently better as hands-on workers vs leading a company.
>>739812651>>739812960We need a group of teenagers to take him down.
>>739812651Grok is this real?
they have turn him to Shadow Balan...........
>>739810839Was Yuji Naka the guy who threatened to quit because STI wanted to use the Dreams engine for Sonic X-treme? If so then this checks out
>Naka hated yakuza Is there no end to this man's shit tastes?
>>739811658>At least Naka was a hardass who made people work through fear,He failed. And this isn't even about muh American vs Japanese devs. Stop that. The guy being interviewed said nothing but nice things about literally every other person there BUT yujiHere's the thing about being feared. You need people to respect you too. Nobody respected Naka. Not even his own nips. That's literally why they ratted him out for insider trading
the only two people worth a single shit at sega after yu suzuki retired were juro watari and takenobu mitsuyoshi, and watari is gone
>>739810839Didn't he get sent to prison for insider trading?
>>739812761What's Masuda supposed to have even done? All I ever see on /v/ and /vp/ is vagueposting regarding supposed internal Game Freak comms that leaked or whatever.
>>739822872That's the guy.He also doomed the Saturn by not letting it ship with a Sonic game because of it. Well, one of the reasons it was doomed
None of this is new. Look up how he fucked over the guys making that Geist game.
>>739811001He was that much of a cunt.He literally killed sega by being a retard.
>>739823085Well, if he had maybe not done the insider trading he would've still been getting closer and closer to SEGA again and been in the promotion for Sonic Superstars, which was still the best ORIGINAL Classic 2D Sonic game made since maybe the Genesis days, and he was there for a large part of its development, with Naoto Oshima and Iizuka. It seemed like that's plenty of success through fear and respect in my book.You don't need to be respected by your own nipples or whatever the fuck you meant. I've never heard that expression before, you stupid liberal reset era dipshit.
>>739824479He got arrested for insider trading but people seem to forget why.Balan Wonderworld was a shitshow and he got kicked out of his own studio by Square Enix then he sued them for breach of contract.The next day he was mysteriously arrested for insider trading.
Perhaps the most fascinating insight came from Peter Moore's discussion on Sega and how the once great gaming company had failed to evolve with a quickly changing games ecosystem. After Sega had already ceased DreamCast production and transitioned into a third-party software firm, Moore said he had a lot of trouble attempting to get Sega in Japan to understand the shifts that were taking place in the global business."We started to go up there a lot and build a relationship, and I was going back and forth to Japan and I was just so angry with Sega that they didn't see the stormclouds of what was happening in the industry," he commented. "Games like GTA 3 were changing the vibe of the content. That was, to me, this inflection point. Once the tech started to get more powerful, the creative elements that would come over from Hollywood and from television all of a sudden - that was what gave us Rockstar, and what the Houser brothers, to their credit, did for games. I mean, you look back on the history of this industry, you can point to these moments and say, 'That's when everything started to change.'"Moore explained that to prove his point, Sega had conducted focus groups with players in America to get a sense of how they view different gaming brands, including Sega, of course. "I needed to prove to the Japanese that our brand was starting just to fade away. And so we asked the focus group, a bunch of 18-, 19-year-olds, a classic question, 'If a video game publisher was a relative or a friend, who would they be?' Ah, EA. Arrogant quarterback, 6'5", walks in, gets the girl, nobody likes him, blah blah blah, but, you know, fills the room with his big personality, all that. I can hear it now.
>>739825307"Rockstar. Ah - that's your drunken uncle that shows up from Vegas once a month with a hooker on his arm and looking for money and then he's gone again. He comes in and he's the life of the party for a little while, and then he disappears for a long time. Sega. Yeah, that's your grandad. Used to be cool, but even he can't remember why anymore."When Moore brought a video of the focus group to present to his Japanese colleagues, they refused to believe the validity of what the American consumers had been saying. That's when things got especially rough with Sonic creator Yuji Naka."I said, 'We need to be incredibly aware of the challenges we face as a brand at Sega,' you know, and so I play the video. Yuji Naka, Naka-san, maker of Sonic, is in the room. Now, he and I have a love/hate relationship on a good day. And we show him this, and it's subtitled in Japanese, and when it comes to that piece he just [slams his hand on the table], 'This is ridiculous. You have made them say this. Sega is the great brand, nobody would ever say this, you have falsified!' He just gets in my face. So I said to the translator, 'Tell him to fuck off.' And the poor guy looks at me and says, 'There's no expression in Japanese.' I said, 'I know there is.' And that was it. That was the last time I ever set foot in there," Moore explains.
>In 1998, prior to the launch of Dreamcast, Naka and his team visited Sega of America to tour their development offices and observe their work on the game Geist Force, a rail shooter for Dreamcast. According to the producer Mark Subotnick, Naka told his team in Japanese which parts they would take to incorporate in Sonic games and suggested firing all but one of the engineers. Unbeknownst to Naka, several of the Geist Force developers understood Japanese and quit, contributing to the project's cancellation.
My favorite Naka story is when after leaving Sega he kept hanging around the Nintendo building hoping that someone would notice him and ask him to work there, but it never happen
>>739810839Is this the funny Yuji Naka anecdotes thread?>They had a birthday party for Naka. (this was before he started just refusing to interact with Americans) Somebody had ordered a Sonic-shaped cake. When it was time to cut the cake, he took the knife in his fist and slowly pushed it straight down through Sonic's chest.-Ken Rose, one of Sonic Spinball's programmers>>739813608You know, it's kinda funny how these guys used to be considered "the father of Sonic / Mega Man", but after their reputations got ruined, people decided to instead give that title to the co-creators instead.
>>739810839"He's a real nacker."
>>739826038That can't be real.
>>739816276with japs it probably means that he fucked little girls
>>739822872Naka hated Hirokazu Yasuhara for some reason; maybe jealousy that Yas was Lead Designer on Sonic 1,2,3&K and was a big success.
>>739826038lmfao
>>739811129>this will now be a funny joke anytime Billy is brought upFunny but also sad.
>>739810839>Tell him to fuck off.Naka never recovered after Peter Moore torpedo'd him in front of his Nip masters: https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/7/15222852/peter-moore-sega-yuji-naka/>Yuji Naka, Naka-san, maker of Sonic, is in the room. Now, he and I have a love/hate relationship on a good day. And we show him this, and it’s subtitled in Japanese, and when it comes to that piece he just [slams his hand on the table], ‘This is ridiculous. You have made them say this. Sega is the great brand, nobody would ever say this, you have falsified!’ He just gets in my face. So I said to the translator, ‘Tell him to fuck off.’ And the poor guy looks at me and says, ‘There's no expression in Japanese.’ I said, ‘I know there is.’ And that was it. That was the last time I ever set foot in there.
>>739821075>There is a Naka schizo on this Mongolian Basketweaving Board defending Naka's honorLMAO. I know Sonic autists are crazy, but good lord.Your man didn't even create the character you love. He just programmed the thing. Let go.
>>739813928>can still suck like balanI hate this, because Balan had some fun ideas going for it, but the fucking gameplay choices (only one button for actions, a good chuck of the costumes not being able to jump, losing a costume on hit) and then the story decisions (keeping the back stories of the characters you meet in a separate physical book people had to buy, one of those stories being a man losing his fucking wife) was just dumb.
>>739825307>>739825360Whats crazy is Moore is basically the reason Microsoft ever had a successful console. He was one of the great and Sega would be in better shape if they listened to him and not fucking Naka.
>>739810839In the early 90s Yuji Naka was a programming genius on the level of John Carmack and Tim Sweeney. However, he had the rock star problem and that eventually made it impossible to work with him, and now he's in jail for insider trading.
>>739828665It really is funny how much SEGA destroyed their own business trying to cater to an unstable asshole who eventually quit the company anyway. Like. The entire reason there was no real Sonic in Saturn was him.And by funny I mean depressing.
>>739829051He made Sonic though! OK, designed him, but he MADE Sonic!
>>739821075>"I have a visions for Sonic's big 15th anniversary game!">dips during early development>make a new company>shits out a bunch of mobile games >made a few titles for the DS and later 3DS of little note>goes all in on Rodea the Sky Soldier, which was going to be his big, non-Sonic related mark in gaming>Average at best, only part everyone can agree on being good is JUST the flying>shits out more mobile games>gets back with Ohshima at Square>One button game play later>gets kicked, does insider trading>gets arrested>you are hereTruly a man of vision.
>>739826038lmao
>>739829353he didn't even design him, he was just like, the team lead for the guys who actually designed him or something
>>739829051Even if X-Treme look was going to be weird, it would have at least be interesting once the kinks were ironed out. That and since it was being worked on by the wester team, the OG team was clearly working on Adventure so it's not like there was a reason to cancel and move on.
Where's the photo that Naka posted where he deleted the people he had a falling out with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__4rHXmKJs
>>739822448offtopic but I never understood the purpose of this.
>>739829541>so it's not like there was a reason to cancel and move on.The producer went to the doctor and said that if they kept working on X-Treme he'd be dead from stress in six months. The development was THAT bad.
>>739830486And was that before or after Sega ripped the engine from them because of Naka's fit?
>>739830863After.
>>739811242if you knew anything about Japan you'd know you're supposed to stay quiet about workplace conditions. even talking shit about a former employer is frowned upon
>>739822236I've known a few Fischers and they were all Slavs, not jews
My favorite Naka anecdote is the one where he is visiting the studio working on Geist Force where he assumed no one spoke Japanese and loudly talked about his plans to fire almost everyone there and steal their work for his Sonic games
>>739828906>Balan had some fun ideas going for itLike what? That demo was the worst game I have ever played that was put out by a studio.
>>739831121>>739825716
>>739830934Then no shit development went to hell, you can't just take an engine away and expect things to go smoothly, especially if they had a dead line. And funny how Sega would do a similar thing years later with BRB and Sonic Boom>"hey, we're hiring you to make a new take on Sonic">turns around>"hey Nintendo, want three exclusive Sonic games for the WiiU?">turns around>"hey BRB, make Boom for the WiiU" "Huh, what do you mean the current engine can't work on it, change it up and get it done by the holiday season!"Fucking stupid.
>>739811129Imagine having a professional discussion with a Jap who barely knows English, conversing mostly with the aid of a translator, when he looks at you and says >maybe giant cock
>>739831192Even without the NiGHTS engine it was a mess. They had two separate teams working with no collaboration, no one ever decided on a set gameplay loop, there was never any decision on story or tone...I'd be amazed if it ever got past maybe 30% completion.
>>739824479>nips means nipplesThis is trolling right?
>>739831165That's why I said ideas, a colorful platformer that deals with the dread of living life where people mock you for your interests, experience near death, losing loved ones, or feeling like people don't acknowledge your very being COULD have been good. But yeah, the gameplays was ass, and keeping the details in a book you had to by separately was even more dumb.
>>739831348he's trying too hard, just ignore him newfag-kun
> Voice actress and director Lani Minella didn't want Tails to be voiced by a child actor, but Yuji Naka insisted on being so. Tails was voiced by Kazuki Hayashi (then eight years old) in Sonic Adventure (1998) until Ryō Hirohashi took over as Tails's permanent voice actress in Sonic Heroes (2003), and in English Tails went through three different child voice actors until he was voiced by adult women starting with Shadow the Hedgehog (2005).>Lani Minella says that Naka wanted the actors to look like the characters. Ryan Drummond expands on this, with Naka and the staff wanting the actors to act their scenes...but this included making grunts that don't make sense in English, which includes the "Teeeeriah" and "Yoosh" in Sonic Adventure 2. When Minella told him that's not how it works in English, reportedly Naka got furious and this led to the voice actor's replacement with the Sonic X 4Kids staff.
>>739831373That's not a novel idea though. You're describing Klonoa, which are actually good games.
>>739831373Funny story, what little plot is is actually in the game (via the cutscenes) was something Naka was dead set against. But Square demanded they include some CG in some form.
>>739811658Motherfucker was notorious for doing shady shit. He tried to get one team at Sega, who was working on a Star Fox clone, to give them the engine for the game and to fire everyone who was working on the game. Problem is he said this out loud, in Japanese and the team had both English and Japanese speaking team members. The entire team quit in protest.
>>739811001It's amazing that out of over a dozen replies to this, only two of them acknowledge that it's not a Japanese person giving the interview lol
>>739822236Corporate Japs are just slant eyed jews
>>739811001The Sega Genesis/MegaDrive era of games had the Japanese constantly butting heads with the americans. Sonic 3 was apparently a nightmare to make. They constantly acted superior and obviously resented that the americans were selling the console better than the japanese.
I saw Yuji Naka at a Family Mart in Shinagawa yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him to sign my copy of NiGHTS or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen umaibos in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the umaibos and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each umaibo and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>739831478Anon I'm agreeing with you, Balan did shit in a way that made no one happy>>739831498Would have left us even more in the dark for no reason.
>>739812048Miyamoto also wanted Bond to shake hands with all the soldiers he shot to show it wasn't "real". You can see Miyamoto's infinite retcons in real time and hear stories of projects he killed because he personally hated them or didn't understand, and yet everyone swears up and down that the story of him badmouthing Donkey Kong Country is 100% bullshit.
>>739831937>yet everyone swears up and down that the story of him badmouthing Donkey Kong Country is 100% bullshit.Its not, he just said it when he was in a particularly bad mood.
>>739831427The more I hear of Naka the more I see a resemblance between him and Chris Chan
>>739831937>and yet everyone swears up and down that the story of him badmouthing Donkey Kong Country is 100% bullshit.Because Miyamoto never had a track record for badmouthing games like that and the only source for it is some UK rag saying it as a "heard from a friend of a friend" story. UK magazines were fucking INFAMOUSLY dishonest at the time, just go look up the RISE/Rise of the Robots scandal.The main things we know about Miyamoto are that he didn't like games taking themselves seriously in any capacity and he had a habit of not wanting a new game to be made unless it was "innovative".
>Saw opening animation for Balan at E3>Holy shit vidya magic from my childhood is back>Game comes out>Complete shitI was so disappointed.
>>739811263>I'm just hear to tell you where the hockey puck is goingwhat a fag
>>739812243Was this journo trying to fuck zoe quinn or something?
>>739831937>You can see Miyamoto's infinite retcons in real time and hear stories of projects he killed because he personally hated them or didn't understand, and yet everyone swears up and down that the story of him badmouthing Donkey Kong Country is 100% bullshit.But the DKC one is bullshit Miyamoto never talked shit on Rare and actually really liked working with themThere ARE stories about him that are true. Like how he made DK's coccont gun because he didn't want DK to use a real weapon
>>739832234>Like how he made DK's coccont gun because he didn't want DK to use a real weaponWhich is funny, since according to Rare they were just temporary placeholders to begin with. But when Miyamoto designs something for you, you're pretty much obligated to use it.
The best fuck naka story is still peter moore telling him to fuck off when he tried to explain the dreamcast was a failure and he needed to accept that.
At least Naka was smart enough to cancel that Genesis game based on SatAM.
>>739832025He'd never let sonics arms be blue
>>739832323>peter mooreYeah, guy who was so buttdevastated about sony, that he shilled wii while working at xbox. Such person surely have ethics
>>739832542 sony deserved to get shit on every step of the way. he did nothing wrong. and in the end he was right
>>739832618>and in the end he was right>Under his leadership, games such Command & Conquer: Generals 2 changed focus from a single-player campaign game to a free-to-play multiplayer game with microtransactions.
>>739832684No one's perfect but he's still got more hits than misses
>>739831937>You can see Miyamoto's infinite retcons in real time and hear stories of projects he killed because he personally hated them or didn't understandSo there's Infinite retcons and games he's killed. Yet you list none.
>>739811796It made sense from Naka's perspective. The American team was incredibly dysfunctional that they would have made a bad sonic game even with the Nights engine. It would not have saved the Saturn, and it would have hurt his prestige and killed the Sonic Adventure project before it even got off the ground.
>>739832134The quote originates from Ultimate History of Video Games Volume 1, page 518, referring to an interview Steven L Kent did with Miyamoto and the Stamper Brothers in the mid-1990s. The actual interview is in "Electronic Games LC2 Issue 32" (May 1995), which is a U.S. magazine, but the quote's not there. Interviewers don't print everything that they write about. Miyamoto probably didn't even remember he said it and would be stupid to say he did.It would be like asking an American politician over the age of 50 if they ever used the word "nigger" unironically. They'll all deny it for obvious reasons, but it really proves nothing.
>>739833331That's an incredibly roundabout way to say "there is no source for the quote whatsoever because it's bullshit".
>>739832542He was right though, at the time buying a 360 and a wii was a much better choice than buying the PS3.
>>739833073When the first Mario movie Miyamoto claimed that Peach was meant to be a "strong female character" despite her being captured by Bowser in almost every single game and doing fuck-all.Also he has killed games, he forced Splatoon to be a new IP because he didn't like Mario Paintball and also prevented Link's Crossbow Training from becoming a full game. Those are just what we know of, most of those stories probably never left NCL.
>>739812761It's a unfortunate symptoms of how corporations work, people inevitably get promoted into incompetence.It's why dawntrail was such a cluster fuck, the competent lead got promoted to somewhere else and as a result some bumfucks who technically had seniority got promoted to replace him despite not actually being competent as leads
>>739833567No, Miyamoto suggested Splatoon be a Mario game "as a last resort" because none of the other ideas were working.
>>739833443>"there is no source for the quote whatsoever because it's bullshit"Ah, you're one of those "no crime was reported to the police, therefore no crime occurred" sort of people.
>>739811658>at least he was a hardass who made people work through fearyou are such a poser
>>739811001i remember reading an old falcom articles where they strongly imply that the CEO sucked
>>739833567>Also he has killed games, he forced Splatoon to be a new IP because he didn't like Mario PaintballMade up bullshit. He greenlit Splatoon. He told the Splatoon team they couldn't use the Rabbit designs, and for them to consider Mario if they couldn't come up with anything.Then when they presented the Inklings he immediately approved the game.
>>739813040As the other anon saidAnd Itagaki only shit talked his direct competitors from different companies so he basically did everything with 0 actual risk to anything he said
>>739821601yes eggman is nakas inner frat boy.
>>739833825NTA but sourcing a claim with an interview in which the quote does not appear is extremely dubious at best. I am not saying you are wrong, but that can not be used as evidence in an argument.
>>739812651>SO WHAT IF YOU CAN SEE>THE DARKEST SIDE OF ME
>>739833491And yet ps3 won that generation
>>739833825>nothing was stolen>no doors were opened>no locks were broken>nothing was moved>nobody was caught on camera>NO DUDE I TOTALLY GOT ROBBED THOUGH
>>739834040Pfft, no it didn't.
>>739811714>Of course, the Xbox guys danced from day one.an entity worse than Square Enix
>>739834040That's why I said at the time. Moore left Microsoft in 2007, before Sony took its head out of its ass and before Microsoft repeatedly shot itself in the face with Kinect.
>>739833683You forgot one important partSaid lead wasn't promoted, but moved to make another game, called Final Fantasy 16, and even took only decent writer with him. Game that was so bad, that square literally gave up on their decades long dream of chasing western audience. Game that sold less than forspoken.
So for japs it's cool once a person has been officially branded as a criminal to talk all the shit about him but otherwise it's dishonibru?
>>739834284It isn't about honor, in Japan a statement is still legally considered defamation even if it is true. However the japanese court system does not care if you talk shit about criminals so people are free to shit on him all they want.
>>739834284Exactly.
>>739813280Considering what was described on how the early development of death stranding like, most of the people that followed him basically did so because they were his personal friends that were in comfortable enough situations to risk it, so he's personable enough to get on good terms with people, as a actual boss? He managed to get a game out and I haven't heard any quitting controversies about his studio yet, so seems to have a good track record? If anyone has any counter info to this please provide?But What I really want to know is who in the valve leadership is considered the best to worst to work under
>>739810839Look I don't care about anything those fags at sega of america say. They made so much slop whether cancelled or released, and those cancelled games is 20 or more count. They're just incompetent all around so their words come as spiteful shit from losers, and him saying sonic mania is the best sonic game after the genesis days is the cherry on top of his bullshit>>739811714Funny how he's talking shit about xbox also, since they are the only company that actually took staff from the dead console manufacture side of sega, took up the third party devs that saw they were making games for a now dead console, and even had sega magazine staff transition into xbox official magazine. But of course sega of america idiots only care about some corporate shit, like they want a carpet for themselves specifically, no wonder those ego guys all left to work for sony
>>739834636>since they are the only company that actually took staff from the dead console manufacture side of sega, took up the third party devs that saw they were making games for a now dead consoleAnd look how bad that went.
>>739831067Jesus Christ, Fischer. I'm pulling you out. Missions over.
>>739834702Things were going really well for Xbox until 2010, when they threw everything away for quick money from casual gamers.
>>739811129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__4rHXmKJs
>>739834889Oh, yeah, remember how all those Sega IPs got new games on Xbox and went on to become huge, long lasting franchises? Oh wait, that didn't happen. They all died instead.
>>739810839Seems like he had a problem with Americans telling him that games won't sell in America. Both this story and Moore have that in common.
>>739811263He really just wanted to make one button baby games forever, huh?
>>739834954He hated Americans in general.
I wont ever forgive Yuji Naka for completely fucking over the Chao garden
>>739835014There is merit in having a simple, approachable control scheme. The problem they were talking about was Sega's reliance on arcade ports that had little to no replay value. Sega needed more and longer single player games.
>>739834939Why would there be sega ip? Are you retarded?People who made consoles were laid off by asshole called Mike who wanted Sony's money. how the fuck these people would bring sega's iconic ip's with them?
>>739835121Hadn't Sega just made Shenmue? If anything it seems like Sega was more in line with needing longer single player games than he was.
>>739828665I remember hearing a story about how the creator of sonic stood in front of Nintendo HQ in japan, expecting people to recognize him, but no one did. I dont remember why he did it. I think he wanted a meeting with the higher ups and expected to be treated like royalty.
>>739834000The argument isn't if he said it or not, is it POSSIBLE he said it. Besides, some people are so hard-bent against the idea that even if there WAS a quote in a magazine it would've been dismissed as something the magazine made up like >>739832134 says. Even if some audio or video emerged and was independently verified by half a dozen independent experts that it was Miyamoto in 1994, it would've been waved off as "well he clearly didn't mean it/he was joking".People really need to know the difference between "it definitely happened" and "it is within the realm of possibility".
>>739812651reminds me of a CWC meltdown
>>739810839Imagine you just want to make video games and some retarded Yankee starts telling you what you can and can not do because of western sensibilitiesI would stop respecting him too
>>739835221Panzer Dragoon, House of the Dead, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Toejam and Earl...all got Xbox-exclusive games. All flopped and put the IPs in a coma. Except House of the Dead.
>>739834939That wasn't what the other poster was talking about. Also most of the Sega IPs with lasting value (Sonic and Virtua Fighter) went to other consoles. You can't blame Microsoft for nobody giving a shit about Shenmue.
>>739811001We have only one side of this story and it comes from an American CEO
>>739835317I cannot recall a single example of Nintendo sniping talent from other developers. Not even at the CEO/management level, much less game dev level
>>739834636>nd him saying sonic mania is the best sonic game after the genesis days is the cherry on top of his bullshit...Except it is...? I mean you don't have to like it (and fair enough) but it's clearly head and shoulders over dogshit like "Sonic the Hedgehog 4" and numerous other abortions.The only two games that can come close to post-CD Sonic Mania is: Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, and they have NUMEROUS issues with the 3D camera system (which you can chalk up to being proto-early 3D and the Dreamcast not having a right thumbstick to break that).
>>739813762CEOs haven't even made one game
>>739835443Those games would not have magically been hits if they came out for the PS2. Those are either niche titles or arcade conversions (which had become unpopular). Crazy Taxi 3 and HotD3 only came to Xbox because the arcade board was basically an Xbox and required almost zero effort to port.
>>739835397Dude, it's just the way the puck (hockey you wouldn't know it heh) is going!
>>739835321It's POSSIBLE that he said it in the same way it's POSSIBLE he jacked off live on stage. Both statements have the exact same amount of evidence backing them.
>>739821601Yuji Naka being the Eggman is almost as funny as learning the nickname Hideo Kojima earned at Konami was Ojama.
>>739830236
>>739831505>He wanted them all fired>so they all quit in protestWhich means they gave him exactly what he wanted, and don't even get to collect unemployment
>>739835121>The problem they were talking about was Sega's reliance on arcade ports that had little to no replay value. Sega needed more and longer single player games.They had Camelot w/ Shining RPGs and Shining Force but obviously they must have seen the retarded walls closing in on SEGA. Considering they seemingly they jumped over to Nintendo make Mario Sports and Golden Sun games before SEGA even left the hardware business.
>>739836429who's the shadow man
>>739836773Naoto Oshima, who Naka famously hated.
>>739836773Mr Kage-san.
>>739811129>the the boy>he he visitedI don't know whether it's because no one proofread the article, or if they literally transcribed the entire interview with AI and kept the stutters.
I can never take these suits seriously because it's just a bunch of "what ifs" from people who seethe about japanese games and wished they'd bowed to commiefornians even earlier back in 2002.Reminder that Fischer, Moore etc were the ones holding up JRPG releases because it wasn't "on brand".
>>739813762they spend decades steeped in a corporate seniority culture so that's their whole lens. can't engage with someone's disagreement directly, just 'i am the senpai here so you HAVE to defer to me!'
>>739823085ThisIf you're feared alone, you are tolerated. You get mutiny at the earliest opportunity.If an accident happens, everyone hides the shit eating grin as the bubble rises and bursts in your face. Nobody tells you when there's a little jizz on your chin. You need at least a central island of respect for people to give a fuck, otherwise you're just something to suffer through and crack jokes about. And then, in business, there's a bit of a boy who cried wolf thing going on. In business, a superior shit talking a subordinate is potentially disastrous for their career, but if all someone ever does is shit talk subordinates, then that loses its weight, and the one thing they have to potentially ACTUALLY be feared for, slips through their fingers. Who cares if Yuji Naka calls you awful, that just means you're normal.
>>739836651Getting fired in Japan is different from the west, it is extraordinarily difficult for a Japanese company to actually fire somebody so getting fired stops you from getting another job in the industry. Naka used his status in the company to trick the team into quitting before Sega ruined their careers (Sega had no plans to fire them).
>>739837012No one who purchased an Xbox in 2002 was playing JRPGs.
>>739811658Reading through the interview we get a actual real example of a guy who does the hard ass invoke fear type leadership properly through Hayao Nakayama who actually knew to respect where the money came from and where to apply the pressure.Yuji Naka is literally just a tantruming manchild, he's no hard ass
>>739837205FF 7-10 were loved by normalfags. While xbox players definitely shifted to WRPGs over time, in 2002 most xbox owners had played FF7 on their PS1.
>>739810839Eugene Knacker is a misunderstood genius
>>739837205>XboxSaturn was the one where the americans refused to bring over jp games and wanted it to be a Madden and 3D machine. These threads, which started on /vr/, were basically a response from people repeatedly pointing out with evidence that it was Sega of America that fucked over Sega during the 90s.
>>739812761the peter principle
>>739811001They are. when they break with the cultural standard is how you know it's bad.
>>739834636>and him saying sonic mania is the best sonic game after the genesis days is the cherry on top of his bullshitHe's literally right? Look. You can like post SA2 sonic all you want but as a fan speaking it was the fucking shittiest time to be a sonic fag. Most of the games Sonic team had no idea what they fuck they were doing. Outsourced sonic games made by dimps who weren't even sega devs were better than whatever Sonic team made during this period.
>>739813389Actors are not employees, they're contractors. Regardless of how Kojima treats his actors, his staff seems to value him or else they wouldn't have stuck around.
>>739837012>MooreMoore never hated JRPGs, he just felt they wouldn't sell. And to be fair most JRPGs did NOT in fact sell. He was still more open about them then Bernie was.
>>739837803No one in 1996 is buying a port of a dated fighting game over Tomb Raider or Mario 64. And arcade ports and pre FFVII RPGs was all Sega wanted to put out
>>739837949The peter principle is cope. People are not promoted based on merit, they are promoted because of nepotism and office politics.
>>739810839Funniest part about Naka is that his insider trading wasn't even that fruitful. He would have made more money if he made Balan a good game and it sold well. Or even if it just did okay and Squeenix didn't fire him. Needless greed.
>>739812761>Just character designers somehow finding themselves controlling the reigns of the company.could be worse, they could be unwittingly controlling the entire company's public image for decades
NiGHTS into Dreams is a masterpiece and no amount of /v/ seething is gonna chance that
>>739836729>They had Camelot w/ Shining RPGs and Shining ForceThe very fags whining about Naka in those interviews were the people who refused to bring anything over that was too anime, too 2D and too JRPG.1995-1998 Sega with Kalinske and Solar put out a No 2D policy.Stolar made it even worse putting out a policy that only 3D games, sport titles and westernized games were to be brought over and then at E3 admitted they were dropping the Saturn for the Dreamcast. So no X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, and Vampire Savior because those all required a RAM cartridge SoA refused to market.No Grandia, Lunar, Sakura Wars and Princess Crown because they were 2D JRPG-y.No Radiant Silvergun, DoDonPachi and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.Incidentally this was all done while pointing at Playstation, but Sony had no issues back then about publishing 2D games including ports of Saturn games that were then brought over to the west.
>>739838509>Arcadeslop
>>739838310Moore wanted Sega to make Americanized games.The few that tried that during the 2010s basically found it sold like shit because people don't buy JP games to get GTA.
>>739838525>but Sony had no issues back then about publishing 2DUm, no? They refused to release most 2D games, to the point where they'd only allow Mega Man 8 if Capcom made Mega Man Legends along with it. And America never got the PS1 port of Earthworm Jim 2.
>>739838343ThisThere may be a few industries where it holds true, but overwhelmingly, petty office jobs handle promotion through a combination of dumb luck, personal politicking, and nepotism. And then, I guess, for Japanese companies add weird old men ending up in positions of control because they've been there for 40 years and it would be dishonorabre to not promote them.
>>739838525>but Sony had no issues back then about publishing 2D gamesLet's not make up bullshit here anon. Sony of American was very infamously anti 2D for a long ass time. Capcom literally had to threaten sony to let them make 2D games or they would walk. We know this happened. We have actual proof of this recorded
>>739838757*american
>>739838525It was the correct move at the time. You do not understand how much america cared about anime before 1998. Putting money they didn't have into localizing games that would not sell would have been irresponsible.
>>739838824*how little america cared about anime before 1998.
>>739838660It was back when suits genuinely thought that's what people actually wanted. You're looking it from a modern viewpoint rather back when most Japanese style games were most associated with nintendo more than anything.If we're blaming Moore for following the AMERICANIZED route than what about someone like Inafune, who himself was Japanese and felt like japan was falling behind
>>739838824>It was the correct moveObjectively incorrect as proven by the sales records of Saturn and Dreamcast.No amount of revisionism will prove otherwise.
>>739810839Phoenix Rie was always the most based.
>>739811864Naka escaping prison.
>>739838961>what about someone like Inafune, who himself was Japanese and felt like japan was falling behindWhat about him?Some JP devs actually made the mistake of listening to him in the aftermath of the original Dead Rising success, notably Mikami and Nagoshi talked about it in inteviews, and both of them later said it was a mistake because the JP industry realized around mid-2016 from sales figures that wasn't what actually sold.
>>739839176kek
>>739838509As long as I am interested in games I will never understand why Miyamoto thought this was amazing/horrifying but he sneered at Crash Bandicoot.
>>739839004Those games would not have helped sales in the United States. The market for anime games in America before Pokemon and DBZ became popular was microscopic, very few of them owned a Saturn and none of them were going to buy console for them over a Playstation in 1997.
>>739838525Sony was so anti-2D they made Naughty Dog take out the cartoon animated intro for Crash Bandicoot anon
>>739838525Sega of America were colossal idiots:https://youtu.be/gQPFKMx21Sk?si=adOTXf3O9dHlX1pbStaggering waste and mismanagement, no wonder SOJ were pissed.
>>739839442we could have saved them bros...
>>739838824> You do not understand how much america cared about anime before 1998.So little that FF7 (1997) sold 6million in the west. SEGA were obviously too smart to release anime styled games and it helped the Saturn soar past its rivals.
>>739839675not that anon but cutscenes unironically changed the gamethat existed on PC gaming for years, sure, but that shit was basically all greenscreen shit with some like basic 2d/3d effects ontop.Final Fantasy 7 was a 3 disc game with mega high production values for the time
>>739839675Comparing a generic anime game with fucking final fantasy is a reach so far you might have cracked your back in process FF7 had tons of heavy marketing at the time. More than most games back ever got period, for most people it was the time they actually seen a real JRPG
>>739839951*first time
>>739836729Sega made Super Monaco GP on Megadrive/Genesis, which had a single player campaign and 18 tracks.ESWAT and Shadow Dancer were re-made for the home console.Virtua Tennis on Dreamcast has a huge amount of extra content.They knew how to do it.
>>739839675Sony and Square spent $100 million in marketing in FF7 in the US. Even if Sega had a game on the scale and quality of FF7 (they didn't), SoA could barely scrape $100 for marketing at that point.
>>739839795Panzer Dragoon Saga was a 4 disc game, Shining Force 3 was in 3 parts.
>>739839368Literal retard.People were importing shit way back then and even paying $150 a game for some games.If you massive morons had your way the original Nintendo would have been a generic sports machine.
You know what the funny part is? even if Sega consoles lacked JRPGs for the most part they still had more of them compared to the N64 and GC
Naka is a shit person, but he still did a great job with the programming of 1987's Phantasy Star and 1991's Sonic the Hedgehog
>>739840151Not enough people to justify paying to translate the game, market and ship the game to stores. It's not like executives didn't bring over JRPGs because they were racist against the japanese. It was a business and they had to make money.
>>739840235N64 maybe. GC had a decent amount.
>>739816276he went to prison for insider trading
>>739812368>>739811443He served a suspended sentence I think. Not even house arrest
>>739840636He could have. He got out of it, but had to pay out the ass and got time served.
>>739840451>Not enough people to justify paying to translate the gamelmao meanwhile the average low quality release of a Working Design localizations, basically a butchering that usually made the games worse, even for something like Alundra sold over 100k in just it's release month for what amounts to paying a translator to do a (shit) job and a programmer to futz around some text for a few days.Lunar for instance sold multiple hundreds of thousands copies and those were Saturn ports that were never released on the Saturn in America because SoA were utter fucking retards. Even the small print run games, including the ultra-butchered ones like XZR, sold 20k-50k copies.Incidentally they charged roughly $30 more than the average game at the time, claimed to be due to "premium packaging" that cost them practically nothing and was said to be pure profit.Of course low IQ morons like yourself would rather leave that money on the table to chase after hollywood.
>>739816276Residual butthurt for not being able to put the orange man in prison for a clerical error his accountant made while he was getting blackmailed. Said blackmailer is the hero of the left despite the fact that blackmail is a crime in itself
Both Twitter and Kickstarter ruined so many devs.
>>739814096I wonder what things would look like if Miyamoto had gone solo instead of gunpei
>>739812368>(RIP Treasure)Fuck Capcom for Geist Crusher or rather not localizing it. That was the title that killed them. People cry about Legends 3 and rightfully so - along with not localizing Monster Hunter 4 at the time, but the situation with Geist Crusher was another fuckup that people don't really focus on.
>>739816276>dog whistleCalling someone a convicted criminal is more like a blaring alarm than a dog whistle
>>739840887Mystaria: The Realms of Lore sold less than 15,000 copies in the US despite having good reviews. Legend of Oasis is the highest selling saturn game in the US that is even close to being an RPG and that only sold 50,000 copies. RPGs were simply not profitable on the system.
>>739811129This is what I'm supposed to hate the man for?
>>739813254well treasure isn't dead? They just stopped making games after xbox 360. Hmm Cave stopped too now that i think about it. Did Xbox actually do something to convince them to make games back then or what?
>>739842165>Mystaria: The Realms of Lore sold less than 15,000 copies in the US despite having good reviewsSold for $69.99 which at 15k copies would be around 105 0000 dollars not taking into account retailers take and the cost of printing discs paying 1-2 dudes to translate it.Incidentally a game that was forced to change it's name like a week into sales because Sega of America didn't check copyright properly.
>>739842165>Legend of OasisMSRP $49.99 or 249 9500 dollars assuming 50k sales.>b-but we can't pay a dude to translate it it's not NBA #4950!Seriously no business sense at all. SoA was retarded.
>>739812761Nomura is the same but at least that guy can churn out half-decent stuff like Kingdom hearts and contain most of his autism there
>>739842165Do you work for Sony by any chance?They seem to be following your strategy of not releasing anything that'd actually make their console appealing for anyone outside a narrow set of dudebros who don't buy more than one game.
>>739825360Wasn't Peter Moore one of the reasons the Saturn flopped? Like he insisted the American branch didn't need to localize games to succeed in the west?
>>739843092No, that was Bernie Stolar.
>b-but muh jarpigs!>sega would still be making consoles if those stupid Americans just localized more jarpigs!The delusion of weebs is truly boundless.
>>739843398>2nd highest selling game on the PS1, a successful console, is FFVII, a JRPG. Also had 3 other JRPGs in it's top 20 best selling games>the N64, a flop in all regards, had one JRPG that sucked ass
>>739839329Nights probably just looked cooled to him while Crash was competition.
Sega lasted as long as they did despite Naka
>we're going to sell a japanese game console>but we're not going to bring over any games>Cyber Doll? Pshaw, let's push All-Star Baseball '97 featuring Frank Thomas Sega of America was the most retarded subsidiary of all time, only possibly matched by modern commiefornian Sony of America.Take a look at the release list for the Saturn for both Japan and America and compare just the sheer amount of releases one had vs the other:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_Saturn_games
>>739843653>he N64, a flop in all regards,Heh
>>739811001Japanese are still human and even they have limits to the bullshit they're willing to tolerate.
>>739843801SIE*.Sony Corporation of America is the multinational owner.
>jps totally hate Naka look at these japanese dudes talking shit about him>it's an american corporate faggot whining about himBotposter or just retarded?
>>739843915His fall happened because his subordinates in Japan reported him, something the Japanese only do if you're basically a monster
>>739831937That was an effort to frame Goldeneye as an adaptation of the movie as a movie, which would had been a kind of cheeky angle to make as a credits gag.
>>739811129Legend
>>739843801>let's also shadowdrop the Saturn before it has games ready to go with it, and also piss off retailers that didn't know we were going to do this
>>739843985They did. All the characters were shown as actors during the credits. Maybe as a compromise to Miyamoto, maybe not.
>>739843960Uh-huh, totally not just an explanation you pulled out of your ass after it was pointed out that saying it's the japanese talking bad about him is total bullshit and it's whiny americans who were kicked out of Sega. I don't even like any of Naka's shit and was actually interested to see some JP scuzz and instead I get amerifaggots.
>>739812651haha what the fuck
>>739811129uhhhhh based?
>>739811714Wholesome, but from a business sense, when you consider how many copies of SADX and SA2 Battle were moved, Nintendo was probably ecstatic they had another dev to fill-in the platformer gap on the GC that Mario Sunshine couldn't fill 100%, let alone GAME gaps. Getting a head start on the GC is how Sega was the de-facto AAA 3rd-party on the Wii
>>739811129>be monday morning>Yuji Naka walks into the office>"Get a load of this!">"Get a load of this!" >"Get a load of this!">"BEHOLD MY FLOATING MASTERPIECE! THE EGG CARRIER!">*whips out dick*>"Hahaaa! See if you can make it through here!"
>>739845264>not whips out giant cock
>>739839329>but he sneered at Crash Bandicoot.Huh?
>>739838509Nights Into Dreams was made by Naoto Ohshima, Naka was just a producer
>>739823301virtual-on deserved better
>>739844039wasn't that mandated on them by SOJ?I never get why people act like Sega of America or Japan are "the good side" that entire company throughout the 90's was the definition of that "two retards fighting" image.
>>739828868>ummmm he just designed and programmed a platformer about complex slope physics after being inspired by working on the ghosts n goblins genesis port which had slopes in it, effectively being the reason sonic is a hedgehog so he can roll around as a ball in the physics gameSonic is Naka is Sonic.
>>739838509its what superman 64 wanted to be which is to say it's not much
>>739847231>wasn't that mandated on them by SOJ?You're right, I forgot that part.
>>739829051Sonic Xtreme would've been a Bubsy 3D tier disaster that would've killed Sonic forever if it shipped. Be glad Naka put that turd out of its misery.>Hey can we steal your code to make dogshit?>no>FUCKING JAPS I HATE THEM WE NEED TO NUKE THEM AGAIN
>>739847895Everything you care for about sonic wasn't even created by him
>>739839675FFVII put its Japanese stylistics in the background and focused on bombastic 3D graphics instead of wearing the anime aesthetic on the sleeve like Saturn games did. The type of game 4chan drools over and Working Designs would've squeezed through their anus onto the market is niche and would not push hardware in the west.
>>739847231>I never get why people act like Sega of America or Japan are "the good side" that entire company throughout the 90's was the definition of that "two retards fighting" image.Both western and jap sega fags get real upset when you point out both sides were retards
>>739828665nu-/v/ siding with the guy that pushed lootboxes to kids and wants more americanized slop because naka was a heckin bully
>>739848448>it's niche>nooo I hate money you can't just make money off gamers you have to 'expand the market' while keeping the amount of games released as small and americanized as possibleReminder to kill yourself you wannabe-MBA piece of shit.
>>739848448>Thinking people didn't call cloud a gay emo anime boy in the 90s>game came out in the same year they wanted to redesign every single pokemon for american audiences and 4kids had to insist on dubbing the anime instead of a new ameritoonZOOMER ALERT!!!!!!!!!
>>739829051>>739848317This. If there is one good call Naka made, it's killing Xtreme. With what we've seen of it, that game would've sunk the franchise before it became bulletproof. It paled in comparison to Crash and Mario 64.
>>739848515Meanwhile Nintendo of America sat back and did nothing until the GameCube era then had 15 years of tons of control
Sonic xtreme wouldn't have existed at all if Naka didn't go full emo and wanted to make anything BUT sonic. It's still his fault.
>>739811263>We should only make brown and bloom shootersSee this guy isn't as smart as he thinks either.
>>739849091Yakuza wasn't even a brown and bloom shooter...
>>739845415>not unzips dick
>>739822873>naka doesn't like Movieslop, Japanbased. chigyu always win
>>739849441>chigyu always win>he says when yakuza is like third highest selling sega ip seriesChigyus lost
>>739848887>Meanwhile Nintendo of America sat back and did nothingLet me tell you about miserable people to work with...
>>739816276>Every time I hear this I think it's a dog whistleIt's deliberately disingenuous and ambiguous to make you think of murder and sex crimes. If anyone actually did one those things, you'd just say it.>OOOH NOOO, HE SOME TRADING!!1Who really gives a shit? Every Sonic game since he left has been complete and utter dogshit, so all I'm getting from this is that current Sega staff are all lower than conviced felons.
>>739849548because theres 5 million games like megaman. now nagoshi is broke and they pissed off their tranny western fanbase
>>739833905The best shit is regarding a company called Zainsoft, whose boss was a straight up maniac who would assault employees or lock them in the offices overnight to get the work done.
>>739842151a false alarm
>>739833926Rabbits totally would have worked, what with them tunneling underground, but the idea of using squid and having them swim through ink is inspired. The game is ten times better because of it.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY HE WAS CONVICTED OF A CRIMELol fucking schizos man
>>739813762Put yourself in their position, these are people who climbed the ladder* (were made to believe they were climbing) in a big company and in the end they were kinda relegated or discarded.
>>739832010Source? That's a really funny way to put it
>>739811129sounds like a harmless joke, what am i supposed to be mad about?
>>739811239I don't remember actually
>>739811658>So fucking what.It's funny>NOOOOOOOO WHY ARE PEOPLE ON 4CHAN LAUGHING AT PEOPLE KICKING A MAN WHEN HE'S DOWN!An hero, faggot.
>>739852910He's doing the thing where you overreact to someone making a point by going to an unreasonable extreme. Often done by people with low emotional control. He couldn't accept that Americans won't buy a game that mentions/emphasizes eggs so he went "WELL THEN NAME IT COCK SEE HOW BAD YOU ARE" except he's literally a crying wojak.
>>739850354>they pissed off their tranny western fanbaseThey really did, Kiwami 3 is the worst selling major release in the series lel
>>739848515The major difference is that the japanese side actually made and released good games.SoA was pushing out abject trash when given the right to decide.
The sega of America guys always lie to try make themselves look better, knowing the japanese guys will never say anything back to correct them.Remember the main reason the Saturn launched early in the US was because they were upset Americans were importing Saturns from Japan before the american launch and they were worried it would make Sega of Japan's numbers better than theirs
>>739848679Hi, Naka. You've amount to nothing. <3
>>739853214SoJ put out utter dogshit that wasn't an arcade game. And yes. Sonic was never good
>>739833926>then when they presented the pedo-spats designs he immediately approved the gamekek, they really are all the same over there.
>>739811658Go look for giant cocks, Naka
>>739853373t. literally doesn't know what games they released at all and it's obvious.
>>739853792Cry harder troon. Yu carried that shitty company on his back.
>>739852029They never say what the crime is. Insider trading is the most victimless shit ever and nobody other than soulless copros give a shit about it.
>>739828907You want SEGA to become a western shooter and drug game company or something? There was only one GTA, everything else that tried to copy it failed, even Saint's Row only did well when it shifted to being over the top goofy. Finding a niche and exploiting it works better than trying to be CoD or GTA, look at Nintendo.
>>739854478Nigger you're paying five dollars for gas because Trump is insider trading with the entire fucking oil market.Don't look up how much oil Barron bought literally days before Trump bombed Iran.
>>739853962>troon>this coming from a QTE-loving amermimutt who stans Sega of America
>>739854763You say that like Sega ever had a niche other than making commercials saying the competition have bad products
>>739812243How did he know when to look again? Hmm sus
>>739854953Well in the US it was 'the cooler Nintendo', in Japan their early consoles had really good JRPGs and other very Japanese genres. Could've built on that and targeted an audience between Nintendo's increasingly 'for kids' rep and Sony's increasing 'epic shooters for mature gamers' image. Sort of market you saw on the early PS before the dudebro type of game became their identity.
