I fucking love this game
>>739948803Everyone loves their first AC game
>>739948803sloppa
>>739948803I only use schneider parts
>>739948992I didn't. My first AC game was AC3 on the PSP. Absolute shit.
>>739949336I don't understand how a turn rate limit is even supposed to make sense. Why the fuck would you turn with your legs and not your neck and torso? It's a mech, the whole point is that it's articulated.
>>739948803same.where's the DLC??>>739948992Yeah AC1 is also great
>>739949459pleas undastand we japanesu roboto no havu gyrou
>>739949459Why would the weapons actually be giant versions of normal guns the mech is holding with robot hands, just how the franchise works
Is Z.O.E good
>>739949459this was just a control scheme slow enough made for japs who get sick with FPS type controls and then it stuck with the series.gen 3/4 and 5 had quick turns anyway. I have a bigger problem with lock-ons and the weird walking but those are just minor issues for an amazing game. I wish it had no lock on and no ACS, that's about it.
>>7399497042 is great and it's on pc
>>739948803Me too. Fuck Nightreign. Fuck Miyazaki's Switch-exclusive not-Nightreign. When's AC7?
>strafe around the target while holding down the triggers>if it's a boss, occasionally quick-boost through their big attack>repeatI don't see the vision here.
>>739949459Boomer shooters were all about coping with the fact that you only had 1 control stick and thus couldn't move your character and aim at the same time. The hardest enemy on the screen was always your controller, and boomers gaslit themselves into thinking this was kino on its own merits and not merely a cope for obsolete tech. Watch any pvp game from classic AC and you'll find that 90% of it are the two mechs wiggling around at 400m range and taking potshots at each other as the auto-aim desperately tries its best to land a hit. >>739949637For the same reason why you don't duct tape a knife to your hand when you hold it: it makes the whole setup much more modular and easy to swap out, and more articulated at the end.
>>739949948I fucking love dual trigger builds, brosLiterally just fire throughout the entire fight for free guaranteed damage
>>739948803too bad all the previous ones have dogshit controls and are barely playable
>>739948803It's a good game.
>>739948803I AM ARQUEBUS! ONE LAST PLAN! IEEAARRGRGHHHH!
I WON'T MISS
>>739948803Best Fromsoft game since Dark Souls 1
Post your ACs.
>>739950805
>>739950943and also
>>739948803same op this was me on day one release please rate my AC and build I worked hard on it
bait used to be believable
>>739950805Just started playing ranked. I really like it. I wish matchmaking was faster, at least as fast as my 375 boost AC.
>>739950227I think there are patches for the emulators that allow you to use both sticks on the older games but you can rebind the movement to the left d-pad/stick and camera controls to the face buttons on the right side. Starting with Nexus you can use both sticks and the controls are still pretty customizable. Nexus, Last Raven and For Answer are all pretty solid games on their own, and verdict day is alright if you can deal with the ugly as fuck visual clutter, like who thought covering the screen in distortion and blasting static when you get shot was a good idea.
>>739951327Nice build bro, do you win?>>739951623I find that B rank matches up pretty quick, don't see why C rank would be any different. Maybe it's your location?Honestly, at least it's not like team ranked. I miss the days of squading up and getting shat on by zim-zams and missile boats.
The nurse is here to administer your does of red lasers.
>>739952805>the turretsvery based
>>739952805I feel like I'm misunderstanding the ideal weight stat on this thing. It feels like even ultra-light builds end up being too heavy for ideal boost speed, according to the stats.
>>739952805>Run! It's duh AMBOO-LANCE!
>>739949464>where's the DLC??fucking this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO MORE ELDEN SLOP
>>739953282Literally just make Armored Core Nightreign and let us 3v1 the ice worm and shit.
>>739952805Don't make me do it, anon
>>739949967Should be easy to design arms and weapons to rigidly attach for easy swapping in the shop, you already have to do it for everything else after all
>>739953440lammergeier is literally a pair of crab claws that latch onto the gun, with an articulated "thumb" that pulls the trigger.
>>739948992No, I tried AC3 and AC1 long before 6 was announced and dropped them both from how shit they wereEven after beating 6 I had to force myself to beat 3 after giving it one last chance
>>739949346As God intended.
>>739953131Ideal weight on tank legs and boosters is the maximum weight your AC can be before quickboost reload time (delay between boosts) starts increasing. Go above it and a 0.5 second reload can quickly become a 1 second reload"Ideal weight" for normal boost speed is 40k total weight. Above that you're not going absolute maximum possible speed.Too bad that threshold is so low and speed loss is so minimal that it's not worth the effort.Picrel barely fits under 40k and sucks shit. 4 punch + kick combos can't compare to real melee weapons and ammo runs out fastTLDR: just check the contextual help thing in assembly mode. Normal boost speed doesn't matter past 340kmh anyway
>>739954707the difference between 340 and 380 is genuinely huge, most FCS can't keep up
>>739948992Debatable (my first AC was Project Phantasma)>>739949791The pc port is hot garbage, just play it on PCSX2
I wish this game's development wasn't cannibalized so hard by ER. It's obvious how they were making this with a skeleton crew because all of Fromsoft's resources were being diverted to cobbling ER together. And then ER wasn't even that good in the end.
Kind of wish they made This game harder, far too many bosses are cakewalks, nice game anyways, hope we get a dlc later down the line.
The lock on is gay because you can never break the lock. Other than that it's cool.
>Maliciously expoits a bug in the game's targeting systemHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>739955539I reject the premise and get MAD
>>739954901>The pc port is hot garbageNo. Also it's the only port that has a undub mod.>PCSX2Lmao no
>>739948803>hold down all 4 attack buttons>mash the dodge button>get all three endings doing thisnice game
>>739949459Because the game having aspects of a tank simulator makes it play like something besides Doom with 10 polygons. AC1 is particularly simplistic about it for technical reasons but the games account for how far an AC can aim to the sides from its leg orientation even if you can't manually torso twist like Mechwarrior, but needing to jump and use EN to turn faster is one of the key things that adds complexity to the series.ACVI functionally just does not play like Armored Core, it plays like a mission based adaption of Gundam Vs. with absolutely terrible AI and a really dogshit AC-like customization system. (somehow upgraded Balteus enforces more build restriction than anything in V or VD) Like everybody talks about how MTs are glorified target boards but they never mention that enemy ACs move the absolute worst in the entire series besides maybe literal AC1 before they added the arena, NPCs have absolutely no fucking clue how to pilot.
>>739955949>undub modnigga what, all the ps2 games have the undub
>>739956015no you didn'tyou didn't even post your AC
>>739955840boss pose lookin ass
>>739948992AC 1 is my first AC game and I love 6 the most. Granted I like every AC game, even V.
>>739953350It would be great.After that, with all the elden souls shit and AC6 done on the same engine they should make an Escaflowne game
>>739949948to be viable in multiplayer you must learn to>AB shuffle>triangle boost>circle boost>interrupt circle boosts>charge cancel>melee cancel>kick joust>quickturn into block>dodge every missile with passive movement>dodge missiles coming from behind while in ABthere's more than enough to do in the game
>>739956023>Worst enemy AI in the entire seriesYeah man, the incredible AI in the previous games who would jump out of bounds in the arena, or have cheated tuned AC stats.Why do you guys pretend that you can't also just circle and shoot everything with an MG in the older games?Or that the game restricts your build options. My complaint is the opposite, the game is basically completable with nearly any build.
>>739956943These guys do not play armored core.
>>739955539>DOONKit's not your turn yet>DOONK it's not your turn yet>DOONK it's not your turn yet
>>739956398AbsofuckinglutelyI've been craving Armored Souls for a while now.I feel like there might have been some genuine internal struggle against making AC6 exactly that, the Loader in the reveal trailer being this lowly scavenger seemed like it was teasting a rags to rockets sort of deal.I guess that's still the case, you land on Rubicon with nothing but the machine you're riding on.
>>739956095I wish.
>>739948803I found it really disappointing compared to 4 and 4 Answer but it was okay compared to Verdict Day I guess.
>>739956943>Why do you guys pretend that you can't also just circle and shoot everything with an MG in the older games?Because you can't? This is how I know you fags just pretend to play other AC games. Try circling around Zinaida and see how that works for you. I also don't know why you're pretending that the older games restricted your build options when you can also clear with any build, it's just that some missions can counter your builds in older games while that doesn't exist in this game.
>>739956943>My complaint is the opposite, the game is basically completable with nearly any build.But at the same time, missions that are basically "respec and win" are kind of lame. In AC6, Escort the Strider comes to mind. You were using laser weapons? Tough. Respec into zooks and enjoy your free win. It's just not as fun as being put in a bad matchup that is still ultimately winnable if you really lock in.
>>739948803Buy an ad shill, your game flopped
>>739950227>previous ones have dogshit controlsFiltered
>>739957197I feel like 6 is a middle ground between the flightiness of 4 and clunkiness of 5, the movement all around is less off-the-wall crazy, but more animated and responsive.The problem I had with gen 4 was the way every NEXT sails through the air like an invisible nine year old is hold it going "PSHEEW PSHEEW!" There's so little feedback from the mecha in motion that it may as well be a jet plane or some non-humanoid machine. Same with weapon feedback, 6 has overall much better weapon "feel" in general, though we are missing proper sniper builds.Gen 5 I gave up on too quickly to really tell you why, I kind of just went "NO 4 MOVEMENT GAME BAD" and put it down.I'm definitely happy to get more in this generation of AC, they don't need to refine things too much, aside from maybe tweaking stagger and ideal range.
>>739948803I don't They killed eldenring 2 for thisFUCK FROMSOFT AND FUCK ARMORED TROON
>>739957586>buh-buh-buh-buh-buy an ad!buh-buh-buh-buy a janny application you buh-buh-buh-buh-BEEEYATCH
>>739957197Can't approach 6 like how you approach 4, just how you can't approach 5 with 4 mindset.Can't really treat 4, 5 and 6 like 1 to 3.
>>739957716you've done him.>>739957586he's done you.
>>739957493In AC1, 2, 3, SL you can just buy the 500/1000 roud MG and just use that the entire game with basically minimal issue>ZinaidaSo yeah a superboss AC with hacked stats (like a lot of the AC's in LR) and values but how did you beat Zinaida?https://youtu.be/cmQK99Xwjvs?t=147I used the H3 pistols for example>>739957519Desu ultimately I do agree that 6 is too easy and it doesn't put enough meaningful pressure on the player in general.
>>739948803Eh, it's only really better than AC1, Project Phantasma, AC2, and AC3. Stagger ruined this game and made it far less enjoyable than it could be. Doesn't help that tank legs lost their main downside so there's no real incentive to use different legs
>>739957647I agree, as sloppified as the lockon is it's very fun to move fast
Also the actual singleplayer campaign of 6 is one of the best in the series
>>739957853>Stagger ruined this game and made it far less enjoyable than it could be.Use a shield
>>739956943I went into the classics expecting to have my balls crushed, but it's really not that badIt's also becoming very apparent to me that the people that post 6 hate on /v/ are clearly total posers that never actually played the classicsI'd argue classic up to this point generally easy so far, the only walls I've hit are some arena fights where I needed to make a specific counter build because the opponent ACs cheat and I refuse to get Human PLUSSpeed strafing really does cheese a majority of fights, and high ammo MGs tend to be an important choice since later arena fights have insane defense values
just so everyone's aware there's literally one shitposter who goes around these threads and will initially try to fellate the early games, then say the early games suck, all so you're not allowed to talk about armored core at allhe (or retards like him) do the same thing to mega man star force threads, xenoblade threads, final fantasy threads, and any even moderately recurrent thread about Japanese gamesdon't engage, you're throwing away energy to a chinese cuck who's mad about losing to coquillettes in ranked pvp
>>739958209Yeah, he's the anon from that Discord whose whole purpose is to shit on games on 4chan. Dunno what benefit he's getting from it.One thing he did that made me laugh was using other people's gameplay to shit on 6, but he could never name any of the parts or weapons used in the webm kek
>>739957716Goddamn riku you bitched him out.You have earned the crackpipe
>>739957827>In AC1, 2, 3, SL you can just buy the 500/1000 roud MG and just use that the entire game with basically minimal issueAnd you can buy any sniper rifle and use that with minimal issue. Doesn't change the fact that you can't just circle around every enemy in the older games because some will be faster than you and/or escape from the circling and try to keep their distance.>but how did you beat Zinaida?The RL linear rifle in the right hand with the 5R3 rifle in the left with 2 HP pistols as backup
>>739958156Doesn't fix the fundamental issue of stagger
>>739958617It does. Just don't get stagger.
Out of my sight, VERMIN!
>>739958657an impossibility with fromsofts patented gruesome netcode
>>739958795Can't argue with that
>>739957853I would rather play around an ACS meter that I can reduce with careful play than get stunlocked by shoulder chain guns pushing me into a corner for the entire fight like early gen games.
>>739958686snail was probably the best villain fromsoft put out in a long timenext to allguazu, at least
>messing around in low b-rank>decide to equip one of the energy weapon generators and my beloved laser bunkers>can't equip back weapons>expecting to get rinsed out>actually doing pretty goodNo I won't stop using the nachtreiher core, yes I know it has no outpout. >>739958617have you tried going fast?
>>739958795That's what the shield is for>Some faggot with 300 ping thinks he can ding me with his lagzooksI killed so many faggots with builds like pic related when the game is new. Uh oh truenos *holds up shield* uh oh LRBs *holds up shield* uh oh earshots *holds up shield* I'm gonna beurzel into your face and beat the shit out of you. I assume that the meta is still somewhat similar to this.
>>739948803>i love slopok
>>739958686
>>739958969Based nachtreiher enjoyer. It's just so fast and gives you such a cool profile.
>people saying 6 is too easyDid I really play hard more by sticking with lightweights or what?I always use mid bipeds in the older games and I rarely got stuck.
>>739948803Its pretty kinoShame 90% of the soundtrack is shit compared to the rest of AC
>>739959146Nah it just meant that you haven't adjust to 6 controls yet.
To all the tourists who love AC6. I want you to post proofs you have played the previous games. I refuse to believe any AC fan enjoys the absolute dogshit fucking game that AC6 is. Seriously, do yourself a favor and play the old games, hell, you can start with 4 answer for all I care. You will realize how dogshit AC6 compare to other games.
What's even the point of producing MTs when a single AC can tear through hundreds of them without taking a single point of damage?
>>739959146You played the game on based mode, I'm afraid.
>>739959208I hope the person who told Kota>stop you'll scare away the girls!was flayed and given 10 lashes
>>739956943Because /v/ deluded itself into believing that ACVI would flop and when that didn't happen, got raped by the helicopter
>>739959146You need to pilot way better with a lightweight. You have to avoid a lot of shit that other ACs can endure.
>>739957586Shazamtrannies lost and got raped
>>739959263>kpop spam out of nowhereah, so it's not just the chinks, it's the CIA too
>>739959146I S-ranked every mission with a midweight biped, pic related. All I did was keep adjusting my mech every time I hit a wall in the NPC arena battles until I no longer struggled with it. I feel like if you do this, you'll come out with at least a B-tier mech every time.
>>739949515>its funny because I don't speak JapaneseOk...
>>739959263I will shamelessly admit to playing AC4A almost exclusively with a machine gun arm quad leg.I just held down fire and eventually everything runs out of health.I remember it was really meticulously balanced with all the little greebles to turn on a dime.
>>739959263I was into mecha and AC my whole life. I was seething seeing Fromsoft becoming popular for souls garbage over AC. I thought all hope was lost when key AC staffers left From. When 6 was announced I thought there was no way they can make a good new entry.I think 6 is the best game of the series right after LR and 4FA.Seethe, cope and kill yourself you pathetic kpop tranny cuckhold.
>>739959305ACs are really expensive to deploy, and the RLF and most other forces only have access to MTs or infantry level weapons. Calling in an AC is like crossing the Godzilla threshold.
>>739959323and people say mixed aesthetic parts can't look good.
>>739959323Fucking phenomenal Gun 13.
>>739950805my badass AC: ANALOG_A
>>739959323Nice
>Raven, the independent mercenary... You're not the mutt I thought you were! No, you are below that! You are vermin! And I will be rid of you!How do you respond?
>>739949967Dual analog came out in the 90s, and this argument was not some setback for PC.
>>739959825With 380 boost speed and a handful of ducks.
>>739958209That might all be true, but Starforce 1 was so bad it killed the franchise for me.
>>739959916at least it wasn't starforce 3what a strange angst though, the other games in a series are still good despite one game you dislikenobody dropped mega man because of x6-7
>>739948803sad we didn't get a second 6th gen game, although the game apparently made armillions so I doubt it'll take too long for another one
>>739960025I just hate the changes to the battle system that SF1 introduced. Doesn't matter if the next games improved on it or not since I simply don't like how it plays on a fundamental level.
i wanted to like it but the gameplay is so boringthis and ace combat both suffer from auto aim
>>739959916>>739960025I thought 2 is the one everybody hated and 3 is the return to form.
This trailer is so fucking cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs2piSWfofQ
>>739960218>>739960276Genuinely typod, oops. 2 was the iffy one. I do miss Battle Network's system, but after 6 games of it they had to do something different. I don't think Star Force really does anything better. >>739960229I don't think you know what auto aim means here. The system does not lock onto something and then every bullet connects. If you're making that claim, you're lying.
>>739959263Your turn.
Zinaida was a fun boss. Too bad she's not scary.
>>739957586The numbers are actually very positive for the franchise. They successfully revived a 10 year dormant IP, in a sub-genre that has historically always been niche, while winning prestigious accolades and received with exuberant reception. All things considered, FROMSOFT pulled off the impossible. Stay mad for no reason though.
>>739959506>Calling in an AC is like crossing the Godzilla threshold.The expansion should have a godzilla boss raid
It was a wild ride. I wish they did an expansion for it.
fuck freud
>>739960546On some level, I do agree that they needed to deviate from the formula. I just personally can't stand these particular changes.
>>739959539>>739959573>>739959652the emblem
>>739948803WE'RE CLOSE TO RUBICONWAKE THE DOG UPBased game, badly need to replay.
Fuckin Terrorists
>>739961047and the shoulderit's less complicated than it looks.
>>739961068I haven't played it in a long time so I forget enough to relive some of the kino all over again. I'm thinking maybe I wait a lil longer more, but the constant AC threads lately are making me want to redeploy.
>>739959468until I wanted to S-Ranked every mission, AC6 as a single player game was disappointingly easy Overall I think it's a great entry in the IP but felt like a power trip 95% of the time, closer to MGS:R than an AC game, pvp is too sweaty for my employment status
>>739949336>I want fake difficultyAnon,Those old school tracking windows only existed because old console gameplay were extremely simplistic and lacking in feature. It was a cheap way to keep players from noticing the gameplay didn't change for years.Now that AC6 got rid of that shit, the franchise can start healing.
>>739961281the ranked mode is alive againeven if you just get washed out, it's nice to have an active multiplayerI think it has to do with the increased number of vtubers I see streaming the game lately.
>>739961407>with the increased number of vtubers I see streaming the game lately.wonder what is up with that?
>lets see how far they can fly... on borrowed wings>mfw
>>739961393All I want from the current UI is SLIGHTLY more differentiation, probably in color, between shoulder weapons and hand weapons on the loading circle.it can be hard to tell if a shoulder weapon is reloaded while a hand weapon is reloading.
>>739950805>Post your ACs.Codename LOADER 4
>>739961632Is this the only starter AC that is cute/adorable coded?