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Can video games ever go back to being good?
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>>739966794
i don't want women in my games
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Yes AI will bring a revolution in gayming.
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>>739966794
I want games to be good. I don't care if the women have ugly faces and a flat chest, or if they have pretty faces with massive tits. I just want games to actually be good. If the game is good I can sexualize the character no matter how they look. If the game featuring the woman on the left was good /v/ would find a way to assign her an r34 category.
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>>739966794
What I want is her ass shattering my face
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>>739966794
Give left a tiny cock and make her fuck right
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>>739967092
AI will kill AAA gaming because one dude with a good idea and dedication will be able to create a great game and it won't be indie sized.
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when all these concordbluds get fired
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>>739966794
Left: what gamers want
Right: what neckbeards want
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>>739967225
>I want games to be good
Agreed.
>I don't care if the women have ugly faces
HARD disagree. Ugly women make any game worse.
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>>739966794
i don't want either of those. i want lolis. why can't the majority of games just have a character creator where everyone can get what they want?
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>>739967225
>I don't care if the women have ugly faces and a flat chest
stopped reading
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>>739966794
No, because women outspend men and gen z men don't even want to compete in the job market.
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>>739967731
>left: what disgusting fat fucking out of touch balding jews want the goyim to want*
there ya go
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This is why I'm looking forward to "Swords & Slippers"
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>>739968308
is it some gacha slop
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>>739968458
Not gacha. More Dark Souls-esque.
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>>739968562
>Dark Souls-esque
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>>739968458
No, just vaporware
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>>739967427
Give right a huge cock and make her fuck left
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>>739968308
That doesn't look like it could possibly be good
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>>739967427
BASED smalldom enthusiast
>>739968715
KYS hyperfuta faggot I will fucking rape you to death
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>>739966794
I just want character creators that allow both.
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>>739968667
>>739968823
Ye of little faith.
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>>739968823
I appreciate the ass tho
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>>739968929
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>>739966794
*what coomers actually want
FIFY OP
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>>739968308
FYI if you see any anons crying and seething at western games with attractive female characters, they are either actual chinkshills or self-hating asia obsessed white chudcels who want to see the west fall at all costs. They want to push asian supremacy and the asian gaming market as hard as possible and for that western games and the west in general needs to fall and is not allowed to heal.

So beware, If you see a pretty white woman in a western game get called "ugly", "mutt", "goblina", you are talking to a yellow chink or a blackpilled chud who hates himself for being white more than the biggest leftard.
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how much longer until this particular brand of b8 finally falls out of popularity? im tired of filter-evading niggers shoving pol garbage in my face
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>>739968308
yah nah, not with the whole prince charming dating sim bullshit
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>>739969062
YWNBAW
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>>739969062
never because tits = clicks and replies
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>>739969062
it's been like 10+ years of people complaining but I'm sure gamers will give up and become gay any day now...
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>>739969216
>give up and become gay any day now
gen Z is making an honest to god effort in that direction though
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>>739968992
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>>739967731
Both are for faggots and trannies.
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>>739966794
I know this is just some low IQ image from Twitter or worse, but "What game companies think gamers want" is very outdated. It should be "What game companies want and try to push onto gamers".
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>>739969115
trannies eat pol trash up because liberals going to bat for them makes them feel important. stop projecting, retard
>>739969216
why does this have to happen on the video game board when there are 20 other boards dedicated to posting naked women?
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>>739969367
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>>739969306
Gen Z is the gayest gen so far.
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>>739969431
because it's about video games
are you retarded?
just click the [-] button if you don't care about the topic
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>>739969452
This needs to be separated by male and female.
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>>739968308
>>739968967
Thanks for the rec, IDGAF about deck building stuff but I already am more interested in this in any upcoming western company slop
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>>739966794
Why are there so many OPs with Marika right now? Is it browns that are obsessed with a large white blonde?
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>>739969452
It's the most polarized.
On average more right wing than millennials
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>>739966794
Honestly, I hate both.
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>>739969816
name 5
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>>739969568
>because it's about video games
No it isnt. Point me in the direction of the replies discussing the content of either game represented in the OP. You can't. They are all about women or politics. Every fucking time. Not video games.
>just click the [-] button
I have a hundred fucking filters on. I shouldnt have to hide the thread. This is a board for video games.
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>>739969949
crybaby
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>>739970015
not an argument
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it's owarida
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did any western games even look like right before?
the main problem seemed to be japanese games having to tone things down to stop westoids complaining at them
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Post THAT webm of marika
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>>739970724
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>>739967801
Consider that having women at all led to this.
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>>739969057
>types All this faggotry
>can' even capitalize the 'W' in White
Nigger
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>>739966794
Isn't the left the generic character they made for a trailer? The game is going tk have a character creator
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>>739969452
>the more antiwhite society becomes the more people call themselves transvestites
Gee.
Almost like antiwhiteism is the source of thisbiological erasure. And 90% of it is performative so people don't get harrassed and demonized by antiwhites.
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>>739970724
>''wedtoids''
Shouldn't use that antiwhiteslur anon.

>>739971217
Why should npcs be ugly?
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>>739971339
True. We hate racism here!
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>>739971217
On one hand, I do agree. The game will obviously have a character editor/creator.
But on the other, all the characters we've seen in the trailers just look boring. They don't look memorably ugly or weird like characters in other Fable games did. We haven't seen the hero be fat, handsome, ugly, lanky... only thing they've shown is that one woman, who looks generic as all hell, like somebody you'd see while shopping for groceries.
It's similar kind of issue as Saints Row reboot, with lots of people thinking "Wait, I have to play as girl?! What about character creator?!"
I'm not saying that they should show how characters are changed right from the start, but they could have shown lots of different heroes, and this could have been avoided.
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>>739967225
>I don't care if the women have ugly faces and a flat chest
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>>739966794
I just started Stellar Blade.
I have no clue what I'm even doing there, just pressing mouse buttons in random order (I can't be bothered to memorize shit) like a retard.
But the girls are sexy.
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>>739966794
What gamers actually want.
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>>739966794
I want em to go back to look like pic related.
Realism and it's consequences have been a disaster for mankind.
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>>739966794
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this makes me nostalgic for gauntlet dark legacy and the big boob lady
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>>739968667
He's a retard. It's a basic action game with light and heavy combo attacks
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>>739971638
I agree with the "memorability" problem you're highlighting. Hopefully it means they will spend more energy into creating a world where the humour is so knee-slapping good that it will be what makes the universe memorable.
On the other hand the original tilogy had memorable characters but the humour was very childish, very "kicking chicken" and "farting in someone's ugly face" which got old pretty quickly. Kid me was amazed when I had to fart in someone's ugly face, now I'm an adult it doesn't hit the same.
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>>739966794
>Can video games ever go back to being good?

Just don't play western slop and all is good again.
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>>739972429
>Just play derivative and soulless japslop, gookslop and chinkslop instead
How about no?
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>>739966794
What humans want: video games
What subhumans want: an endless erection
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>>739972429
I onry pray games flom grolious China rike Sterral Brade, Crail Obscul, and Brack Myth Wukong.
Tlust me, ferrow loundeye.
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>>739966794
>Can video games ever go back to being good?
give it another 10 years
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>>739972518
my favorite is both like karryn's prison
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>>739972518
People also want a good character to look at.
Not a hot one, but something that is not a constant eyesore.
Mario is not sexy, but he's not an eyesore, character on the left is an eyesore.
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>>739966794
From my experience, heavily focusing on lewd female figure is a sign that the game is designed to screw over men while gameplay and story suffers.

and to top it off, many of these "gamers" (AKA lonely and maladapted men who's only goal in life is to coom to sexy women) demand AI to somehow "bring back gaming," not realizing its going to make games even more expensive and predictably lock everyone except billionaires and elitists snobs out of gaming.

I will tell you what gamers really want: They want decently well developed games that focuses on good writing, engaging gameplay, depth, and lots of player agency. Yeah, sex can sell, but can only sell so much.

What else do I know? I just want a game where Heavy and Medic can romance with each other.
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>>739966794
Play korean games and go to the korean video game board >>>/vmg/
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>>739972612
>>739972618
I think it's really strange to be so obsessed with keeping your dick hard all the time when it will never perform the task it was truly meant for. you're like drug addicts and that's why people find your behavior disgusting. you act like a crack nigger over drawings of boobs
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>>739967225
This one made the culture warriors that don't game mad
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>>739972628
>its going to make games even more expensive
No it won't. I'm sorry that you are going to lose your job.
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>>739972706
it's like wanting to eat food every day
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>>739972518
>>739972628
YWNBAW
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>>739967225
How does one become such an emasculated shell to have such a repugnant opinion?

Do you actively take estrogen?
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>>739973023
He's right though. There's a reason so many "games" featuring hot women fucked off to gacha land to scam people out of money with garbage gameplay.
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>>739972942
wow you really are the same as a fucking drug addict
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>>739967731
>I hate the idealized female form! N-no, I'm not a tranny you chud!
Every time.
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EVERYTHING IS WOKE AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>739969062
You have to go back
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>>739967013
based retard mudslime, scared of titties.
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>>739973140
>he
you mean you? YWNBAW
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>>739972628
I would like if we could even acknowledge sexy women exist in western gaming spaces.
It's like the concept of a conventionally attractive women is anathema to you people, bunch of creepy mofos.
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>>739972628
While I agree with most of what you say how the fuck do you end it with such a disgusting statement.
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>>739969057
TRVKE
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>>739973140
Gacha being targeted at retarded gooners is entirely different. There's obviously a progression.
>entire game full of ugly women: not fine
>ugly women existing: fine
>attractive women existing: fine
>sexualized attractive women existing: fine
>korean fetch quest with women in bikini armor: not fine
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>>739972518
>Attractive women are evil because of da male gayze!!1!
You are why games like Concord made it to market.
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>>739972795
Games wont be an issue. but you need consoles to play them. And with the RAM shortage, A lot of our techs are getting pricey. Either way, gamers are the ones being billed here, which includes you.

>>739973023
You ever wonder why no woman will date you?
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>>739972628
gays have it so easy. they can easily have unlimited sex and even gays who play the same game as they do. hey let's play fighting games and suck each others dicks between rounds! just like that. they shouldn't be a consideration for mainstream games
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>>739973727
Market always finds a way. China will fill the gap in a few years.
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>>739972706
Mario does not keep my dick hard
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>>739973964
He keeps my dick hard mama mia
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>>739972628
>>739973581
We've lost the ability to appreciate the female form as a culture, and people like you are responsible. What does it feel like to be a cretinous net-negative to wherever you call home? Do you even have a home, or do you believe in open borders too?
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>>739973727
There's a billion computers on the world, all your have to do is make more games for em.
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>>739967013
Based non-feminist non-faggot non-coomer
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>>739974026
Not everyone is a massive magical turtle dragon thing.
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>>739972706
>why you like to look at pretty things?
are you retarded?
if looking at a naked woman or pixels gets you hard. holy virgin
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>>739974045
I have multiple properties actually. And I am right wing. Don't feel the need to mix my coom needs with my gaming. Multitasking is toxic to the brain
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>>739969057
Trying to gaslight people into accepting gremlin looking trannies as sexy women is some crazy work

Westerners make dogshit looking female characters and are being correctly called out for it. If you don't like that, then fuck off to Reddit, tourist
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>>739967225
Do you also fuck 2/10 women since your standards are so low?
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>>739974203
And to be clear I don't want ugly women in games like OPs on the left. But I also don't need half naked women either
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>>739973850
You know China will be exploiting lonely young men because of it.
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>>739974304
Its not exploiting if both sides get what they want.
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>>739974257
NTA, but I fuck anything with a vagina or anus. They don't even have to be human.
Keep saving yourself for a virgin Anri Okita, though.
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>>739967013
i love women in my games, as long as they're not ugly (most AAA games) or incredibly annoying (chloe from life is strange)
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>>739974203
An appreciation of aesthetics is inherently right wing. Feeling that beauty is good in and of itself does not translate to needing to "coom" to video games.

You're a closet neoliberal trying to soft-peddle your dogshit opinions. Please go back to ResetEra and stop being such a little bitch about voicing your opinions online.
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>>739974045
People wanted to move away from the intense focus on sexy female characters and focus more on gameplay. If you cant help but need sexy females in every game you play, then its probably time to seek therapy, or touch grass and interact with real people.
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>>739974614
But where's the gameplay?
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>>739967225
aesthetics IS gameplay
How the game looks is something that directly contributes to how good it is as a whole
Zoomerfaggots got so irreversibly buck broken by paid cosmetics that they now view aesthetics as separate from gameplay when in the beginning they were one and the same
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>>739974614
>People
Who are these "people"? All i see are lost sales because of uglification.
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>>739974736
yeah sometimes I go to the museum and just take in all the gameplay of the paintings and statues. you fucking mong. you sad fucking failure.
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>>739966794
They don't even think we want that. The rancid hair-dyed nosering feminists they promote just want to stick it to anybody who doesn't.
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>>739974736
Arguably they were one and the same, true, but because of graphical evolution along the years of releases. Now that we're reached the fuckin DLSS5 trash era of graphics, we can safely put aside the graphical identity of games in favour of the gameplay. Not to say DLSS5 is good, it's just there is no more evolution, it's become pure subjective appreciation of a visual identity as opposed to graphical quality or fidelity.
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>>739974614
>went to an outdoor car show today where 'real people' are
>most of the women in my area wear tight yoga pants, tube tops, and have nice tits and ass
>they dress like this in public daily
>but video games aren't allowed to have this
My dude, you're the one who needs to go outside.
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>>739974257
ur mom is a 2/10.
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>>739974748
The silent majority that actually wants this, but are scare to buy because 3-4 insignificant chuds post mean things about it. :3
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>>739974335
>You want drugs to feed your addiction
>I sell them to you at an inflated price
>This is not exploitation
ok
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>>739974606
I did say it here >>739974271
And relax a bit
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>>739974614
"Every" game? Its become politically impossible to have them in hardly ANY game. It's a de facto rule in game development that to have a busty or attractive woman in a game is bad. Isn't that strange?

Not to you, it seems like. You prefer to have no attractive women in games because the complete lack of aesthetically pleasing women is preferable to you. It's a weird and subhuman perspective.
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>>739975056
Proof?
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>>739975056
Concord
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>i have to put tiddies above gameplay or else the chud tulpa in my head calls me a tranny
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>>739974371
Would you prefer a fish wife or a human wife?
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>>739975248
You literally think breast sizes bigger than D cup are ontologically evil, pipe down
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>>739975330
>a fish wife
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>>739975330
A shark is fine, too.
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I guess if I had never seen a real tit and had long since given up hope of ever doing so, I might latch on to them appearing in all my media as some kind of coping mechanism. or maybe I would have killed myself before that ever happened. hard to know.
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>>739969406
Nobody wanted left.
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>>739975142
I am saying that the attractiveness of women in game are an obsession with you all. Most gamers can look past an ugly woman. I would not be playing TF2 if I cared only about sexy women.
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>>739975396
nta, but breast that big look ugly. A-C cups is good
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>>739975794
faggot
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>>739975791
>attractiveness of women in game are an obsession with you all.
Literally didn't exist before western devs started making every single female character ugly on purpose. Whose obsession is it really?
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>saw a video with Tim Cain answering a comment asking about about all the ugly women they're now obviously inserting in vidya
>guy was practically frothing at the mouth that someone pointed it out and reeed about diversity
Califaggots really are thin-skinned when regular people notice what they're up to
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>>739966794
they are still good. just stay away from games developed by Americans
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>>739975973
But no good games have been developed outside the USA.
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>>739975791
How is the opposite not also true? Why do studios go through the effort of making in-game models look worse than the actors they base them off? Why do they exert the extra effort? Why the vitriol against "the male gaze"?

You've just picked the side that fits your progressive sensibilities and are arbitrarily finger wagging, calling the other side "obsessed".
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>>739975882
No good looking man wants a bimbo. You cope and call us gay because your standards are shit
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>>739975902
So you are projecting your own personal failings onto developers and equating it to a conspiracy against men?
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>>739973140
Gacha doesn't even do gooner designs anymore lmao. This is one of nikkes most recent characters... flat as a board with almost no skin showing. No fucking game does female designs for men anymore.
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>>739975973
IS THAT ANIME GIRL SIR WOW HOT A WHAT BABHAABIAT I WISH I COULD RAPE HER VAGINE TIME TO OPEN WALLET
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>>739976015
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>>739976032
What are you talking about? Are you just gonna pretend uglification trend doesn't exist now?
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>>739976032
Ad hominem attacks outta nowhere lol, alright then
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>>739976189
There's no point arguing with leftists, they're just going to pretend to not understand to make arguing impossible.
They obviously know considering devs have publicly admitted they do it multiple times now.
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>>739966794
No, the puritanical church of progressivism hates hereronormative sexuality and cis-gendered, sexy women. Its like garlic to vampires, completely anathema to them.
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>>739976378
I just don't get why this is the hill they chose to die on. No one likes ugly things, not even leftists. They could unironically lower racism by adding cool, relatable and beautiful minority characters but they choose to make them very obnoxious and ugly instead.
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>>739976030
>large breast size == bimbo
An overwhelming majority of those attracted to women would rise as a single voice to identify you as the faggotiest of faggots if the zeitgeist could be so asked. Hilarious, really
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>>739967013
umm based?
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>>739976625
Because when your whole ideology is built around tearing down old standards of any kind, you eventually have to appeal to the ugliness of the world. Sometimes in a literal sense.

But's that gay, so here's a dancing spider instead.
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>>739967013
This. No women=No drama
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>>739975142
>It's a de facto rule in game development that to have a busty or attractive woman in a game is bad. Isn't that strange?
no. not really. sexy women and fanservice were never a thing in vidya. what i find strange is people like you showing up and suddenly trying to force this bullshit in and pretending you speak for everyone, when in fact, you are an entitled vocal minority.
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>>739977528
Nta but fanservice and sexy women were absolutely a thing in vidya, like what?
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>>739977528
You will never convince other people by telling such obvious lies.
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>>739977528
>sexy women are a new thing
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>>739968308
All of those animations are ripped straight from 2b
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>>739977528
Amazing, it's genuinely retarded
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>>739977528
It's like you just completely ignored the first 30 years of gaming history where having both fan service and sexy women was incredibly common and just the norm. We even had sexy black women and no one batted an eye because she was sexy and not going full nigger like the modern ones.
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>>739977528
Tomb raider, DOA, Metroid, Mortal Kombat, God of War, etc.

There's a shitton
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>>739966794
Fable already got delayed, let’s hope the next announcement is cancellation.
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>>739977608
>>739977632
>>739977776
you can go on youtube and look up "100 games made for [system]", any console you want, and you are going to see 99% of the games barely even have females in them, let alone half-naked ones with their ass out like in modern vidya.
examples:
https://youtu.be/hOXCWawCGHw
https://youtu.be/D5bHJFdEvew
there's my proof, what's yours?
>>739977705
>woman appears for 2 seconds
>rest of the game is spent staring at frog pecs
lmao
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>>739978070
Bro, are you serious
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>>739977958
ah yes, a game noone ever played
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>>739978070
Yeah at this point you're just being a disingenuous piece of shit.
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>>739969452
This is just zoomers thinking lgbt is some fashion trend you can temporarily wear and pretend to be
None of them are real faggots or have any non-heterosexual desires
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>>739978070
You had to press a button to advance it, so I had many childhood faps to that.
>video of PC games shows a boatload with blatant fanservice
You're just a liar, which is par for the course on /v/enezuela.
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>>739966794
>Can video games ever go back to being good?
No. The war on heterosexuality is eternal.
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>>739967013
Zased
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>>739978178
You're not even trying at this point.
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>>739978263
You can fix TVs all your life and never be a TV repairman.
You can build birdhouses your entire life and never be a carpenter.
But you make one reddit account and you're a cocksucker for life.
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>>739967225
>/v/ would find a way to assign her an r34 category.
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>>739978070
Is this still the "right-wing" guy? lel
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>>739966794
>character from game with custom protag vs lore innacurate gooner model of character from a game that looks vastly different
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Im having chud fatigue
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>>739978438
With any luck it's terminal
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>>739978420
>Custom protag

The devs pretty clearly did not intend for the new PC in Fable 4 to be a custom protagonist, and the sudden inclusion of a male (or body type 2 as they call it now) was a last minute addition. So last minute they didn't even bother to change the animations. That game is going to have a rough launch, I tell you what.
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I have an addiction to looking at drawings of women and if I don't look at the drawings I will have a tantrum and spend an hour telling everyone how persecuted I am. It's similar to heroin or meth, in the sense that my entire personality now revolves around my insatiable appetite.
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>>739978269
>>739978317
don't start a thread if you're this easily prone to being btfo and hiding with your tail between your legs. gtfo this board and never come back.



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