>>739983529
When AC did the same thing but with infinitely better bosses.

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Catwoman alone makes the game a 9/10
truth is the most mechanically well done Batman Arkham game isn't even any of the trilogy, it's Origins
Origins is buggy af but arguably the most put together game.
Asylum has the best vibes but also the worst pacing and story

Asylum's mechanics are so inferior that I don't care for it anymore. It's also a really goofy game, I don't but the superior atmosphere line at all. Add in the fact that its boss fights aren't just the worst but objectively bad period, and I score it lowest.

>>739983529
When did you realize origins(and asylum) were the best in the series?

>>739983529
Asylum has aged like dogshit whereas this game is actually fun to play.

>>739983850
>>739983894
This. Anybody still singing the praises of Asylum is just nostalgiafagging at this point.

>>739983742
Catwoman had the suckiest parts of the game, narratively added nothing until the last part where she saves Bruce from the rubble of the steelwork facility. Neat in theory, sucked in practice.

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>>739983529
op here i meant to post pic sry

>>739983964
>narratively added nothing
your brain is mush after so many video essays
you think you said something but you didn't
its just an arbitrary category you and your midwit ilk decided to come up with as a metric for "good"

>>739983894
This makes no sense, they play like 90% the same.

>>739984010
Shhhhh you might make them call their favorite middle school teacher and tell them someone insulted them on the internet

>>739984010
>I gooned to her so she must've been a good addition

How many times is Gordon abducted or held hostage across all 4 games? It has to be more than 4 times right?

>>739983529
When I first played it, since only the two existed and I preferred Asylum a lot more.

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>>739983964
she definitely did the majority of the sucking

>>739984271
City is the only one he doesn't, because he only shows up after you beat the game and the Harley dlc

>>739983894
All 3 games are a 9/10 on their very worst day even now. But Asylum is definitely the least good of the trio.

>>739983894
>Asylum
>aged
You turbo normalfags need to get the fuck off the board.

>>739983529
When about 30 minutes in the plot goes from 'I should find out what's going on' to 'JOKER I LOVE YOU I MUST FIND YOU JOKER I WANT YOU'

>>739984236
i didn't say what i said as a counter argument to the idea that catwoman is a good/bad, im responding directly to the way you think which is retarded goybabble youtube slop

>>739983529
>>739984581
The game has a super thin nonsensical main story and is padded by open world bloat. No idea why it’s praised so much over the others.

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>Batman, please find my wife
>OK
>ACTUALLY LETS FIGHT!!!!!!

>>739984836
It was a massive improvement from Asylum
Like genuinely, if you were there for Asylum, you'd know that was the 'holy shit a Batman game that is good' and then City improved on it by a lot but in retrospect, it's completely shit since so, so many open world games with linear progression rapes it

>>739984010
you think someone needs to watch other faggots to come up with such a simple term? Your reek of insecurity

>>739985001
I played them when they came out.

>>739985149
Then you're aware of the Catwoman scandal?

Knight's absolute aversion to boss fights ticks me off more.
>Deathstroke is even more pathetic than in Origins
>Jason is an absolute joke of a fight
>Croc is literally just a big guy
I guess Pyg was a decent enough fight

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City screeches to a fucking stop with the god awful Wonder City part. Also why is all the side content so badly written? I understand we're in capeshit land but some of this reads like an actual grade-school child wrote it.

>>739985172
Do you mean the catwoman dlc code thing? I don’t remember if I was affected by it because I bought it for PC. If you mean cries about sexy outfits then I wasn’t paying attention to that.

>>739985016
algorithms are so effective, that midwits might be acquainted and innately magnetizied to such a retarded framing just by word of mouth in the internet, you're right

>>739984863
Literally a paper thin excuse for including a boss fight with Mr Freeze. I excuse it because it's a genuinely fun fight, but-

>"I need information Victor" *Bullies the shit out of him while he is without his suit and vulnerable
>"Fine batman, but you need to get me some stuff including my suit for me to help you!"
>Get the suit
>"Now talk"
>"No batman now I fight you for some reason"
>Beat the shit out of him
>"Please batman you have to help me by doing the thing you were probably going to do anyway, I'll help you in any way I can"

Like what the fuck

>>739983529
Soon as I saw it was "open world." Suddenly Gotham City goes from large and imposing in Asylum, to a podunk town of 5,000 people max. Yeah, yeah, I know it's an abstraction, but the problem with open worlds is that the abstraction scale never works and makes the world feel smaller than Pluto.

They need to just use time travel to change what happened at the end of Arkham Knight so Batman's identity is not revealed and also consider Suicide Squad to be in a different universe.

>>739984836
>is padded by open world bloat

>literally just tightly knit side content
>one singular mission where you destroy some jammers that are 15 feet away from each other

???
whine about the vents or whatever else the youtubers complain about

>>739985436
I know it technically isn't because we know Superman is mentioned, but I like to imagine the Arkhamverse is somehow its own thing without crazy ass power levels.
Like a somewhat more fantastical Nolanverse.

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Was this Jason?

>>739985486
I wouldn't mind that but even Arkham Asylum had some pretty wacky stuff.

>>739985435
City wasn’t all of Gotham it was just the open air giant prison of Arkham City which in itself is one of the dumbest premises ever conceived.

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>>739983742
I don't read comics but is stuff like Catwoman kissing random thugs something that happens on the pages too?

>>739983742
>Origins is buggy af but arguably the most put together game.
You must be joking, the Dark Knight challenges were so badly designed that even ultracasuals became aware of the problems with the system.

These games all coast by on 'DUDE IT'S CAPESHIT' for every egregious writing decision and I can't say I entirely fault that approach since you pretty much know what you're getting into when you buy a Batman product

>>739985527
Yes

Its honestly impressive how they fucked up this franchise so hard. Pretty much all 4 games were held in high regard even Origins and Knight. Then they just spent like a decade with no fucking Arkham games and shat out that awful Suicide Squad game. They should have had an external studio working on more Arkham games if they wanted to insist on wasting time working on Suicide Squad. There should have been released another Arkham game like 3 or 4 years after Arkham Knight came out.

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I just want Jason to be happy.

Origins is much better written than all the other games. Who wrote origins?

I bet they are working on a remake of Arkham Asylum instead of making a new game. What a fucking waste of time. I hate Warner Brothers.

>>739985705
Last i knew (+5 years ago) he was banging an amazon

>>739985671
what we should have is another batman game that has similar / same mechanics and gameplay, but NOT set in the Arkham timeline.
no, lego doesn't count.

>>739985724
Shadow was written better.
The way it handled
>Lockup
>Ventriloquist
>Rat King (though this one is different since he's """new""")
Were all slick. And the twist that Matches was the one who melted Harvey's face was great.

>>739983742
Too much of a bimbo face for me. Knight catwoman is superior.

>>739985791
Thats really what would be best but they wont do that. All we will get is a pointless remake of Asylum.

>>739983529
What do you mean? Origins is the bad one.

>>739983742
>Catwoman alone makes the game a 9/10
the only part of your post that isn't dumb

>>739985705
I'm not sure if this happens in any of the comics but isn't Robin supposed to hook up with Starfire or is that a different version of the character? Fuck it's been so long that I can't remember

>>739983529
/v/ be like: yooo this universally beloved game is actually.. le bad!

>>739985790
They're not together anymore because she was trapped in some pocket dimension or something.
>>739986015
AFAIK Jason has never been with Starfire. They teamed up at one point.
In Teen Titans I think it was Jason who was with her. I don't remember exactly.

>>739985794
Sorry but Batman being directly responsible for Two-Face, in a ass-backwards and retarded way no less, and not showing even the barest flicker of remorse is absolutely unacceptable and is frankly repulsive character assassination

>>739986117
>not showing remorse
First of all, he did.
Second, allowing anyone to know that Matches is in any way connected to Batman after that would completely discredit him.
He had to silently carry that from then on.

>>739985557
>which in itself is one of the dumbest premises ever conceived
You can tell it's really stupid because "um ackshually" comic fags champ at the bit to bring up which runs the other three games were based on, but they literally don't even remember that No Man's Land was a thing.

>>739986015
Dick is usually the one that gets with Starfire

>>739986076
I didnt say it was bad. I said it was the worst Arkham game. Its still very good.

>>739986084
>In Teen Titans I think it was Jason
I meant Dick.
Freudian shit.

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>>739985791
they could make endless Batman games based on all the different continuities, eras, Elseworlds, etc, but we all know few of them would sell because the average normgroid wouldn't want games set in old time pulp Golden Age times or a Silver Age one full of jovial horseplay or a moody atmospheric Bronze Age adventure

>>739985823
no one cares

>>739986279
It’s the best Arkham and quite literally one of the best games of the 7th gen

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>>739983742

Truth Nuke.

>>739983742
Catwoman freeflow fights are the best when you can just slap slap slap slap slap in quick succession and slowmo. Moving around the city was quite pain because even if you pressed all the buttons in rhythm, it would take like 10 seconds to climb a single building. I get they didn't just want to give him Batman's gadgets.

I tried to like Origins but by playing it again but something about the challenges just made me seriously rage quit and the best parts gameplay parts of the game the ones they did not change from City. Everything they tried on their own sucked. The city's layout is poor, you can't grapple to anything, you have to fast travel or move thru a long bridge or move around whatever obstacles. You can skydive after fast travel but you can't take control until you are almost at the ground level. You are forced to upgrade your armor fully before upgrading your gear or abilities. Insane. But some of the story parts and cutscenes were good stuff.

When is Ghost Maker going to be in a baman game?

Came here to see screenshots of Catwoman's ass and I'm disappointed

Her skintight suit is yummers

>>739983529
When I first played it, never liked it that much.
Knight > Asylum > Origins > City

City and Knight both have the same open world bloat problem where you end up either doing busy work or gliding over lifeless streets. Asylum is all killer no filler, an utterly perfect game and further proof that Batman is far and away the best superhero

My only complaints about Arkham City are A) the option to disable combat prompts is locked behind NG+ and B) every character like Robin/Nightwing/Batgirl should've gotten Catwoman sized DLC story components in it instead of just challenge maps.

Knight offered too much car and too little focus on the Family but if you could do like they did for Catwoman in City and let you just walk around as any of them and they all had 3 or 4 missions City would be a 10/10.

Instead it's a 9.5/10 or something.

>>739986479
umad

>>739983994
Now the first reply makes sense

>>739983529
when i tried to 100% it, asylum took a little while because of the difficulty, city took ages because of the filler

>>739983529
it has the best control scheme and resulting from this the best combat in the series BY FAR. arkham knight is the second best but suffers from a bloated control scheme and of course the abundance of car content people rightfully malign. AK's problems can be summed up as "too much". it has lots and lots of good, held back by added on bad. arkham asylum is the third best, it's a solid game but once you've played the sequels which stand on its shoulders you have to soberly rate it as the lowest of the trilogy.
that's all the Batman Arkham games ranked. end of list.

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>tfw they referenced baneposting in the Lego batman game

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>>739988089

>>739988089
I can't wait to play that game

>>739983529
Never really liked the setting and story. Asylum with the jonkler was more fun for me. I never played Knight, should I?

>>739983529
I agree. It's still good, but loses Asylum's compact charm and everything it tried to do ends up being better realized in Knight.
Speaking of, AK is the best one in my opinion. Its biggest issue is the lack of proper bosses, and the few you actually get to fight are bad. This is also an issue in the whole trilogy, but AK really had it the worst. I wish Rocksteady had a guy who was able to design proper boss fights, but that's also another major concern plaguing western games since forever—no one knows how to design bosses.

>>739983742
>Asylum has the best vibes but also the worst pacing and story
>story
It is awful in any of the three games. In any case, Asylum's is the best one because at least doesn't try to do anything super elaborated and just sticks with a basic , uninspired plot. City's story is nonsense and Knight's would be serviceable if it wasn't for the dumb characterization and the terrible ending.

>>739986604
>I tried to like Origins but by playing it again but something about the challenges just made me seriously rage quit
Filtered.

>>739983529
>series died before getting a non-woke catwoman game
Jesus wept

Eat ma period faggot. City is great.

I still haven't played Knight even though I have it on steam, should I even bother?

>>739989728
It edges you too much
>too much car even though car is good
>no satisfying boss fights
>a few plot contrivances
But the crowd fights and predator sections are quite strong

Which game has the best challenge modes / addons? I assume Knight because it has the most playable characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRj1QxDzIA

How come these games never get brought up in the character action game (whatever the fuck they're called) discussions? Because they're too easy?

>>739990071
the car is cool but the tank missions are stupid. the tank controls like butt.

>>739983529
I actually noticed this in my recent playthrough. I still think it's a good game, but it's definitely the bottom of the trilogy. AA works as it's own short self-contained thing and AK has the best and most developed gameplay. AC is stuck as the awkward middle child.

>>739983529
City > Knight > Asylum > Origins > VR > Origins Blackgate

>>739983529
For me it was the realization that the entirety of Knights was designed around the batmobile.
>no more bat levels everything is a hot wheels set now
>movement speeds nerfed so you would be forced to use the bat mobile
>the Riddler "riddles" are Burnout stages
>literally the entire city is one big hot wheels set
At least i paid 3 euros for it, but still, what a let down.

I seriously love the steel mill in City. To be it really perfectly represents Batman's entire origin and history being tied to the late 19th early 20th century. This giant decrepit completely illogical and nonsensical industrial behemoth that looked insane even before Joker made it his lair. Neither Asylum or Knight had a specific location I enjoyed playing in as much as that one place.

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don't care what anyone says this nigga carried Knight hard even with all the other retarded shit like Jason and infectious Joker tulpa stealing attention away from him. The filler scene at the end where you go back to the clock tower and he's tormenting his own men over the PA about the body's physical response to fear is fucking kino. What a slam dunk by John Noble

>>739983529
>When did you realize it was the worst in the series?
As soon as I played it, and one of the first "dungeons" I played (think it was Mr.Freeze) was deliberately designed in a way where youre expected to leave it half complete.

Retards will go "OMGEEE METROIDVANIA!!!!" because theyre mentally retarded and dont understand how an open world game is fundamentally antithetical to metroidvania design, even a directed open world.

But that made me realize all the levels will be unsatisfying and shallow in a problem solving sense.

Also some video by some big youtuber, whitelight or something I think. Was a big red flag, the arguments he used to glaze the game were extremely bad.

>>739983529
Never because it's the best in the series.

>>739992424
The game had a lot of problems. Jason Todd being the biggest bitch in gaming history didn't help.

>>739986390
If they made a Adam West era Batman game with viewtiful Joe style graphics it would be kino

>>739992424
Anyone remember that scene where oracle gets thrown off a fucking skyscraper and batman saves her by literally just hugging her as they smash against concrete at 200 miles per hour?

Reminds me of that near identical scene in dark knight when joker throws rachel off a skyscraper and batman once again hugs her in air before they smash against some fucking car at terminal velocity. At this point I am convinced that bruce has the superpower of shared immunity to fall damage as long as he is hugging a woman.

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I LIEK CHOCOLATE MILK

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>>739992872
It would be but you know faggots would complain, even if there were like a Brave and the Bold game some millennial or zillennial losers would bitch. can't have any fuckin joviality or japery around here

>>739992959
He wears a suit of armor thats more advanced than what any military on Earth is capable of. Capable of tanking or mildly negating the kinetic absorption of superhuman attacks.

>>739985705
>Jason x Raven
would it work?

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Why do people blame Suicide Squad being a multiplayer live service game when Arkham Origins proved that Rocksteady just sucks? Arkham Origins had multiplayer and was made on a DEADLINE and they still delivered a better game than City which got extra time to cook in the oven.

>Is easily the most atmospheric Batman game (hanging out in the batcave with Alfred is peak comfy kino, no other game comes close)
>Best interpretation of Batman (I love Conroy in BTAS but Batgod is cringe, which is what the Arkham games except for Origins fall into so readily)
>Best boss fights in the series, though what constitutes a boss fight for Arkhamfags is so inconsistent, because they consider the Scarecrow sections in AA to be "boss fights"
>Best DLC in the series (I'll never forget how sore I was waiting for Arkham City GOTY and it turned out Harley Quinn's Revenge sucked ass)
>Actually has a good version of Bane unlike the dumpster fires in AA and AC
>"Oh but they shouldn't have wasted time on multiplayer!"
>I have more hours in Arkham Origins than some games that are just purely multiplayer and I'd still be playing it if more people could access it and I've genuinely thought of picking up the 360/PS3 versions just to play it again (Yes I know there are mods that fix it but it's not the same)

Having just played Arkham Knight and it's DLCs, it's clear to me now that THIS is the best Arkham game and anyone who would say it's AA is a nostalgiafag (oooh it's da best because it's like a SHITTY metroidvania, so epic) and anyone who would say AC is coping degenerate Rocksteady tard. I have more sympathy for AK fanboys because they probably really like racing. (And I did too) AK is basically a third person shooter in disguise and I also like TPSes.

I genuinely wish Arkham Origins was the first Arkham game, because imagine the absolute bangers the series would have by now if it was, instead of embarrassing shit like the Deathstroke """fight""" in Knight.

>>739992424
From the design to how he acts, he was one of the highlights of the game. However, he gets hurt under the crossfire of AK's biggest weaknesses: the dumb story and the lack of a boss fight—not even a mediocre one, the main villain of the game gets taken down in a fucking cutscene. They could have even re-used the fight from Asylum (they certainly had the set-up with Batman being full of fear gas) with some new bells and whistles but they didn't even do that.

>>739983529
When normies called it the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNvTSIgqMk

>>739983529
I replayed this when I was stuck without a computer.

It was still a great game.

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>>739993063
>people get inundated with bad humor from unfunny wokoids ruining every piece of western media for 10+ years
>the Marvel rule for humor is a disease on modern storytelling
>people see something hitting the same beats and assume that it's the same thing
>and they're just kinda tired of irreverence in general
That's Hollywood's fault, not the public's.

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>>739993873
Rocksteady has this weird thing (read: They don't know how) to make an enemy equal to, if not better, than Batman, which is why I'll never take Rocksteady dicksuckers seriously.

>>739992424
Crazy how Nolan somehow made scarecrow a bitch.

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Speaking of Batman I didn't know Alfreds been dead for like 7 years now

Augmented Reality training activated
Augment Reality training failed

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finished replaying origins last night
story wise it's pretty good, bane is a great villain, it's a shame the battles are tedious and ultimately forgettable

>>739994187
Still better than City. Rocksteady are frauds and their fans are retards

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>>739994187
You know what I'm surprised they never tried to do?
Connect Bane's backstory to Barbatos.
Bane hunts Batman because his sleep paralysis demon is a giant bat and he thinks killing a human-sized bat is how he'll find peace.
Barbatos is a giant bat with psychic powers.

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>>739994058
he's still alive to me

>>739993873
slade getting bodied by bats in a cutscene will never not by funny.

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>>739992872

>>739993873
>>739994036
The combat of the arkham games is specifically tailored around the idea of bouncing off from enemy to enemy and dispatching large crowds of goons. Having an actual back and forth against a boss kinda forces you to scrap the basic combat system. I understand why rocksteady always had trouble with bossess. The core gameplay is just not designed to translate into bossfights.

>>739983529
yesterday when jared leto came into my house and told me"
"A man in the 4chan forum will post the worst game in the batman series and you will agree with it"
that's how I noticed

>>739994473
idk.
I've been Playing Dead as Disco which has a clearly Arkham-inspired system and the boss fights are pretty nice.
Sure, there are goon segments but the actual bosses are good

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>>739989181
Asylum is at the bottom just for this shit
It goes Knight > City > Asylum in terms of writing competence

>>739994763
Joker turning into a giant mutant should be acceptable from a video game standpoint, though the way they got there (making Bane a retard) is not what I like

>>739994473
The Bamham likes that WB studios made like Mad max, and The shadow is Mordor series also have lack luster bosses so you might be on to something.

>>739985435
>open world
Its about as "open world" as Ocarina of Time or Silent Hill. Arkham City acts more like a hub that connects the actual levels which play out like traditional Arkham Asylum levels albeit more linear.

>>739994910
>Literally has side quests and optional content

OOT was the open world slop of its day too.

>>739994910
Nah, it has typical open world slop design like POI distractions and meaningless side quests.
>a hub that connects the actual levels
That was Asylum.

>>739983529
It's honestly impossible to rate any of the main 4 entries against each other since they all do different things better than the others.
>Arkham Asylum
It's the best because it has the most interesting progression and atmosphere.
>Arkham City
It's the best because it improves on everything from Asylum and strikes the best balance between all aspects of gameplay.
>Arkham Origins
It's the best because it's basically the City engine with added tweaks and bears repeat playthroughs very well.
>Arkham Knight
It's the best because it has the most advanced fighting system, the biggest map and the most variety of gameplay.
>inb4 some contrarian makes me look like a fucking retard

>>739995032
I'm gonna have to replay it then since I defintely don't remember it being a bland open world. I mostly spent my time gliding around for fun

>>739995162
don't remember there being any bears in origins

>>739995317
People hate open world games then ironically cope and say the games they like are not open world games (even though they clearly are)

>>739994763
That sucked, but I don't think it was as bad as some of the stuff that happens in the sequels. It was also a missed opportunity; you finally have someone who can outmatch Batman physically and instead of designing a good fight around it, it's just another "fight some of my goons and then do this scripted thing a couple of times to win".

>>739995391
>Thinking Rocksteady can do a good boss fight at this point, let alone in their first game

>>739995373
I don't hate open world games typically. Its the Ubisoft style ones that are really boring.

>>739995483
Far Cry 3, 4 and 5 are bangers though and better than the Call of Duty and Battlefield campaigns.

>>739986202
>which runs the other three games were based on
Who the fuck cares, honestly? It baffles me that people argue about that, as if the premise of "Jokester is at large with his shenanigans, go beat him up Bamham" needs something to be based on.

>>739995435
I'm well aware they can't and that it's the most glaring flaw of these games, I'm just "what if'ing" for the hell of it.

>>739995365
Fuck I knew I was gonna look like a retard somehow.

Can anyone explain the reason for developers giving batman a giant right arm in these games?

>>739995709
Most I could imagine is Joker being like a bear who runs on all fours towards you doing swipes and shit (but no rhino ramming into a wall like 99% of western game bosses)

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>>739994473
An Arkham game but with Sifu's combat system would legitimately be the greatest game ever made.

>>739996469
I think sekiro is a better place to start, personally.