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Is there a bigger cancer in gaming than "dad gamers"?

>I cannot play a game on anything above easy and can't have anything that is remotely challenging or thought-intensive because muh family, muh kids, muh full time job
>I just play games to relax XD
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hm? every game nowadays require way too much time and dedication
diablo 2 used to be a singleplayer game
diablo 4 is a seasonal and battlepass grinding game
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Yeah, Sweetbaby Inc.
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>>740060372
>could easily just switch to mobile gaming with retro chinkhelds
>they're programmed to only enjoy things on screens bigger than 50" and fuss about handhelds
>only reason they play anything on phones is because the games they play have huge icons like in Wordle and various Bejeweled clones
>also they fuss about graphics anyway, so even if the screen was bigger, they wouldn't like it.
Sucks because my dad used to play a bunch of different games, then got sucked into the FPS craze for a while, and now he's just watching mid-tier Youtube content and whatever "free" games show up on his Xbox Game Pass.
One of these days I need to nut up and pay for Game Pass myself just so I can crossplay with him over the internet again like we did with Dead Island 2, but last time we did that his internet shat the bed in the game's last chapter and it wasn't as fun, plus I didn't play enough GP games to justify the cost.
The streaming (on my end) was surprisingly good though, I should get off my ass and buy my parents a better router, they're still using the one I bought for myself like 15 years ago that I gave them about 10 years ago.
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I am a dad of 2 and I still find time to play games. It's harder to play online stuff when they are young as you need to be interruptable and offline stuff takes a bit longer but overall, I still want the same experience I had before kids. If a game doesn't challenge me in any way, I might as well watch TV.
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I've tried f2p ranked shit. Zoomers and alphas are actually retarded and genuinely bad at videogames.
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>>740060372
Yes, woke are worse.
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Growing up my father used to play games like Unreal Tournament, Serious Sam, and occasionally Halo CE. Just never with myself or my brother. Well that's kinda a lie. Any time I'd play one of these games with him, I'd beat his ass with all the handicaps in the world (at one point I did Halo CE, but with a completely random community map I'd never played before, and it was 2v1 with my younger brother on his team, he still got fucked hard).
Anyway, he'd stop playing any game I beat him in until he landed on Minecraft and started becoming moderator for any server I was playing on, and he'd flex his rank to extend household punishments to me online.
Anyway the fucker passed away last year, and he never found out I ddos'd the SMP that he was mod on so badly (read: cheap ass booter) that the host shut down overnight.
Fuck you dad you fat ass faggot thanks for the $130,000 in superannuation that went towards my new car and motorbike faggot
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Does having children instantly smash every one of your fingers with a hammer? These guys are just shit at games and pretend it's because of their kids, yikes!
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>>740060372
gaymers who play on "easy" arent real gamers, end of story, no ifs or buts.. FUCK OFF and get out of this hobby. Unless you are literally 50+ yrs old then fine.
Hardcore gamers who also only play on hard mode are on the opposite end of the spectrum - also retarded in their own way and need to get a life instead.

Play your games on normal difficulty, beat the game and move on to the next game.
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>>740060372
While i do kinda get what the dude is saying since i mostly just play on easy myself, i dont get people demanding all games to be made pisseasy. Not everything shpuld be made for everyone.
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>>740060372
I never got achievements, if the game is fun why not play it and not worry about some arbitrary checklist?
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>>740060872
no, its something that happens when you approach 30. Your reflexes become shot, you fatigue much more quickly, and by this time in life you're dedicating more of your focus to things like "what am I cooking for dinner" "how am I paying this bill" etc.
Add parenthood onto that and you're dedicating maybe 20% of your focus to the game you are playing, you're thinking more about "did that sound come from my kitchen? whats my child doing?" that sorta thing.
Basically by this age your mind isn't as malleable and has a harder time adapting to things like boss fights and video games because its too busy juggling a bunch of other things you aren't consciously thinking about.
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>>740060891
Acheivements are generally inferior to completion percentages.
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it's fucking hard to play anything with a high skill floor or a long overarching story when you only get time to play for a couple of hours every week. it's not just gaming, everything takes a back seat. I haven't touched my cars for ages either. about the only thing my kids won't stop me from doing is drinking a beer on the couch. so that's me now
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>>740060872
I have two young kids, and I probably play more difficult and competitive games than when I was a kid.

Main issue with any kind of MP is getting uninterrupted time to play out a match but it’s still possible, singleplayer I can stretch out my time a bit more since it doesn’t need to be in one sitting.
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playing video games > having kids
why would you willingly ruin your life
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>>740060372
Yes, women.
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>>740060891
Gives you a more tangible sense of progression. For people who treat life like a checklist (such as myself, unfortunately), achievements are fun to hoard because they give you the illusion of having something to *show* for the time you’ve spent playing vidya.

Dad gamers like the ones in the OP legitimately *should* only play easy games until they’re able to invest more time and effort into vidya without letting it destabilize their lives. All vidya obviously shouldn’t attempt to cater to them on principle, but you can’t expect parents to spend lots of time learning mechanics for complex/difficult games either. They don’t really have a right to complain about it either; not anymore than they have a right to complain about discrete math being too hard to understand.
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>>740060372
one of my friends is a married 46 year old dad of 2 teenagers, and a toddler. he has no problem balancing family life, and playing games at turbo cock twisting difficulty, and likes if it has too much grind. he's also in shape, and very sociable. "gamer dads" are a pure skill issue. i'm 35 with 2 10 year olds. i died in elden ring once due to a kid crying like a retard over nothing. literally a singular time. not even as babies did i get interrupted by them. "dad gamers are just too retarded to do multiple things. that said, i'm always ok with games being made for everyone in certain aspects. survival crafting games always accommodated everyone. if i made a game, it was 100% be made "for everyone" in the difficulty department. i'd let you do whatever you wanted to it. all i would change is rewards for playing on the highest difficulty, probably in the form of a cosmetic that carries over into new games.
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>>740061187
You have to grow up and leave the toys to the kids someday anon
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I'm a stepdad of thirty-seven and wifey won't even let me have video games anymore, she said her fifteen boyfriends need the space. They make me sleep outside in the yard like a dog.
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>>740060372
Why the fuck are you on reddit you fucking niggermonkey?
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>>740060631
>hm? every game nowadays require way too much time and dedication
>diablo 2
Diablo 2 is literally a fucking item farming simulator, what are you smoking?
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>>740061342
Sounds like you’re ok with that, which is great. I’m happy for you, anon.
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>>740060372
People who make reddit / twitter / twitch / steam / youtube comment screenshot threads
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>>740061389
It technically doesn’t *have* to be, but that’s the part of the game that keeps people coming back for more.
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>>740060872
Kids are a huge timesink until they can sleep through the night and not shit themselves or navigate without trying to commit suicide in every possible way, doesnt excuse the skill issue
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>>740061564
Maybe make your bitch wife take care of the little shits no?
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>>740061564
>trying to play vidya about killing yourself as a baby when you’re a parent who is trying to prevent your baby from killing itself in real life
2deep4me
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>be subhuman with little to no impulse control
>impregnate female without thinking of the life changing consequences it would entail
>think your opinion is worth a grain of salt
amazing
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>>740061630
>tell your bitch wife to take care of the kids so you can play vidya instead
Smartest chud on /v/ right now
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>>740061320
>on /v/
kys normie
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>>740062013
>normie
Leave.
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>>740062013
>wah wah you can’t make me accept responsibility for my life
/v/ isn’t your safe space, try /r9k/
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Go back, faggot jew
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>>740060372
Gacha gamers, FPS, survival shooter gamers, sports gamers, racing gamers, etc, are all always the worst cancers in gaming.
The Madden, CoD, Fortnite, Gran Turismo, Gachaslop retards ruin gaming for everyone else.
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>having kids in 2026
LMAO
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>>740060970
>Basically by this age your mind isn't as malleable
That's a myth and partial cope people tell themselves when they lack discipline or need an excuse for their shortcomings. The only aspect that really truly applies to is language since humans need to pick that shit up ASAP to function normally in society, but even that isn't as much of a gap as people think. Newer studies show brain malleability or elasticity actually increases in other areas as we age. You are right however in the latter half. People are just fucked over by how society functions now. So they never have time to train or work the brain as an adult any more.
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>>740060372
why bother playing a game not on the lowest difficulty. You are just wasting your lifetime you could spend playing other games.
Literally just blast through it and leave a bad review if the low difficulty had a negative impact on the enjoyment.
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>>740062208
A man's purpose is to find a loyal wife and start a family with her. You are just alone clicking buttons on a keyboard and watching pixels on your screen. Get better.
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>>740060372
Just another demographic of people that don't actually like or care about video games but are extremely vocal that everyone else has to accomedate them
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>>740060372
We get it, OP, you're unemployed.
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>>740062567
>posting on Reddit is the same thing as being “vocal”
The fact that this is true in 2026 is pretty wild.
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Retards humoring op and his ribit faggotry instead of laughing him out. Probably because most of you sit on redit anyway.
The fucking state of this board.
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>>740060372
How are they cancer ? They want to play easy games, how does that affect you? Maybe deep down you're just jealous
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>>740060372
>bigger cancer
yeah DEI, feminists, lgbhiv+, and troons just to name a few.
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>>740060372
I don't see the problem with relaxing games or people wanting to play them. But if they're complaining about games not catering to them then yeah that's dumb.
>Is there a bigger cancer in gaming than "dad gamers"?
Yes, progressive activists.
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>>740060372
>2001
>people in their 30s with kids playing games like Ultima Online, Acheron's Call, etc.
>2026
>People in their 30s with kids don't have enough time for anything
how and why?
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>>740061564
Press pause. Almost every game has it.
>This one specific game does not
Don't play online slop.
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>>740060372
100% guaranteed to spend 3-5 hours a day watching the televised jew and scrolling social media
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>>740061564
>Kids are a huge timesink until they can sleep through the night
99% of kids would sleep through the night after the first few days if women simply embraced motherhood the way nature intended... staying by the baby's side 24/7 for the first three weeks. Whenever the baby wakes up, you just breastfeed. The baby doesn't have time to cry for milk or momma. It's as simple as that.
I have three children, and my wife did this with all of them. If women breastfed naturally, they would have the happiest, easiest children ever.
However, modern women want to involve fathers in duties meant for mothers, which is a mistake. It doesn't benefit the child, and it doesn't help the father either.
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>>740060372
why do you care
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I hate all difficulty whiners equally. Not every game has to be made for everyone, and by the same token easy games are not automatically shit
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>I don't want to join a discord and raid endgame content so I won't
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE THE REASON WHY MY GAME IS DYING!!!!!!!
Explain this
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>>740060372
You failed to reproduce.
I won the game of natural selection.
gg no re, scrub.
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>>740062742
People in their 30's with kids play BIG BOY GAMES like KSP or Factorio, not the BABY-SHIT you talk about in this sub-reddit called v.
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>>740060372
achievement faggots are the biggest retards in gaming, chore list garbage
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>>740060372
I don't judge people for playing on easy, maybe they just wanna fuck around. Who cares. I absolutely judge people who only play the type of games you literally cannot fail at because of anxiety or some shit. "Comfy" game shit.
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>>740063026
You don't understand goy, the baby has to drink formula and you need to buy a nanny cam!
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>>740060372
Those people are not gamers, they are posers and fakers.Incel culture is a core value of gaming. Sex haver, normies and chads ruined video games. Gaming should be gatekept as a neet autist hobby. We do not need the normiechads, they do not bring any value to vidya.

And no, you can not change your fate. If you play your 20s vidya alone, this will be your eternal fate for the rest of time. Chad genetics (and all other similar prerequisities for getting gf/career/family) are given and provided at birth.
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>>740063203
how is that a soijak
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>>740063101
>easy games are not automatically shit
Name ONE easy game that isn't automatically shit from a gameplay perspective.

No, having good music or a fun story does not supplement shit gameplay.
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>>740062068
Bitch I'm a taxpayer menace.
Thanks for buying my medicinal weed for my autism, normalnigger.
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>>740063285
Mega Man X
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>>740060372
surprised it hasnt been mentioned but the biggest issue i see with this post is achievements
"hurr durr I need my checklist handed to me otherwise the game is bad!!"
achievements is one of the worst things to be added to gaming
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troons and bad actors
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>>740063026
first time I posting this meme unironically
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>>740063436
>achievements is one of the worst things to be added to gaming
amen
and awomen
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>>740063285
>Name ONE easy game that isn't automatically shit from a gameplay perspective.
There are thousands, but maybe you're thinking braindead easy rather than just normal easy. It's harder to make a case for braindead easy, because most of the time it is pretty fucking boring
But even then, with fun enough movement and pace, they can still be fun
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>>740063339
>oh noes I get to live a normal life and procreate and socialize and afford nice things and anon gets to be an absolute degenerate
Fair trade. No takebacks!
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what a retarded shit thread. most of you should kys
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>>740060372
I'll never understand saying this nowadays. If we're talking about 90s adventures or pixel perfect 3D platformers, I can see his point. Now? You're telling me movie games are too hard for you?
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I don't understand people who are obsessed with achievements but don't even want them to be hard.
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>>740063026
You were just lucky.
>t. a father of two, wife breastfed them until 6 months, didn't sleep through the night
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>>740063757
frog nigger
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Dad gamers aren't the problem...

4channers acting like Dad gamers is the problem. 4chan used to be a home for enthusiasts, for autistic, for the unashamedly obsessed. Now it's infested with browns and children who literally don't care about anything but the next piece of processed food they'll be chewing on. Discussion has become impossible here, because everyone is farming izzat or trying to foment the next TORtanic.
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>>740060848
I've given my dad less shit for more wrongs he did. I would kill if me and my dad could play vidya.
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>>740060372
It's such a stupid thing to say, too, I'm convinced that they say this shit just to brag that they're heckin busy and mature and not like the other gamers. Having kids does not mean you can't still be good at games, it's just a cope they hide behind. Makes sense for games that are truly time consuming, but not for difficult games.
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>>740062742
women got lazy
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>>740063026
>However, modern women want to involve fathers in duties meant for mothers, which is a mistake. It doesn't benefit the child, and it doesn't help the father either.
My wife's been threatening me about it, which confuses me. What am I supposed to do besides watch him and wake her up for breastfeeding?
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>>740060372
>I have 4 kids
So fucking what?
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>>740063825
I was a child on here in 2008. It was a large percentage children then too. Now I have 3 kids...
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>>740060970
>you fatigue much more quickly
I haven't really noticed that at 41. Played 600 hours of D2:R last ladder.
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I don't care about game difficulty, as long it's not jank-induced difficulty (like Mina the Hollower for a recent example, pure jank thru and thru).
But for fuck's sake make your fucking game shorter. No game has any fucking business being over 40 hours, that's clear-as-day bloat, and even then you shouldn't be for aiming for that number, the sweetspot is exactly 23 hours. If the core content of your game is 20 hours-ish, with 60+ hours of padding, you fucked up. You are not entitled to my fucking time. Ever.
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>>740063953
why are you still here hanging out with children
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>>740063339
>Thanks for buying my medicinal weed for my autism, normalnigger.
I never understood this insult, because it implies that I have a problem with this.
In fact, I would double down. I would rather spend an extra 1-5K on you getting your weed IF it meant the government got less money overall.
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>>740060848
He knew you'd be a faggot when you grew up. Read back your post. 4chan is not your blog.
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These freaks ruined Everquest and MMOs
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>>740063980
>But for fuck's sake make your fucking game shorter
Or you could do this little thing called not playing the fucking game if it's that long? Most games aren't even 40 hours long, just avoid those games and quit your bitching. You are not entitled to the entire games industry worshiping the ground you walk on.
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>>740060970
>its something that happens when you approach 30. Your reflexes become shot, you fatigue much more quickly
major fucking skill issue
eat better, exercise more and stop being depressed or something, that's not actually normal
Parenthood is a huge timesink of course, but turning 30 doesn't make you a decrepit shitter lmao
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>>740060372
Why people think as if achievements are owed to them? This entitlement has also been been a huge part of why games suck nowadays.
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>>740060970
Dumbest post I've seen in a while. If you become a useless old fart at 30 then it's your OWN fault.
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>>740062271
>That's a myth and partial cope people tell themselves when they lack discipline or need an excuse for their shortcomings.
I see a lot of this. I think a lot of people don't want to try so they make excuses about why they can't, instead of admitting they're just giving up
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>>740064095
>Most games aren't even 40 hours long, just avoid those games and quit your bitching
That's a bald-faced lie (prolly coming from a bald head too), no single player game these days is below 25 hours long, they've only gotten more bloated with time.
>You are not entitled to the entire games industry worshiping the ground you walk on
If they want my money: Yes I am. What, you want my money but think you are a big hot shit enough to not comply with my demands? Lmao I'll just pirate your shit. I dare you cry about it later. As far you're concerned, I am your god, your livelihood entirely centres around appeasing me, personally.
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>>740063745
>and afford nice things
Like the scotch fillet steak I had for tea tonight because I use my free time to garden and cook and play videogames?
I had it with prawns.
Surf n turf.
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>>740064312
Oh, now it's 25 hours?
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>>740064379
Like property, a car, and the same decadent meals you seem so smug about, only I don’t have to prepare them myself— I can get others to prepare them for me.
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>>740060372
>Is there a bigger cancer in gaming than "dad gamers"?
Zoomers.
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>>740064426
At least, fag
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>>740064568
You mean "young people who actually play games"? Sure.
>B-BUT ZOOMERS CONSOOM SLOOOP!!!!
When le zoomers were still in school millenial troons were jerking off absolute non-game garbage like Gone Home, Life is Strange or The Last of Us.
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>>740063980
>like Mina the Hollower for a recent example, pure jank thru and thru).
Holy filtered
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>>740064649
Holy Astroturf
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>>740064312
Dude none of the big SP games of the last year were over 25 hours
Nioh 3 (yes you can grind another hundred hours but NG isn’t that long)
Pragmata
RE9
007
Saaros
Mixtape (if that counts)
And I haven’t played it yet but Mina the Hollower is seemingly only 15-20 hrs.
The only recent SP game that’s long is Crimson Desert, and I think that’s still even a perfect dad game because it’s very conducive to pick up and play for 15 minutes.
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>>740060372
You're old, anon.
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>>740060970
this is bullshit cope for sucking dick at video games
>t. old
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>>740064639
Millennials be like:
>"Wow, that was a nice 15 hour narrative experience. Alright, back to actual games..."

Zoomers be like:
>"Wow a free to play early access game"
>Develops a gambling addiction
>Spends 1,000 hours playing a game that actively attempts to force a 50% win rate to keep players stuck in a cycle.
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>>740060848
>Subhuman parents leads to subhuman children and finally, a subhuman society.
The post
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>>740065073
Remember WoW?
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yeah porn game chuds and furries
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>>740064962
I'll have to go through my Steam list for what I've played this year, but regarding those particular games
>RE9
Admittedly, I think the time I got at the end of my first playthrough was 15 hourd-ish, HOWEVER, that's in-game time, it doean't count retrying segments, so I think it's closer to maybe 20 (but you also have to keep in mind I'm a long-time RE player, not a vet, but I know my way around).
>Pragmata
Did actually take me like 23, but I was also rushing my way through it I didn't see all the side content.

That being said, I've played a lot of RPGs over the past year and they've become complete slogs. Other than that, regular SPs do float around the 20-40 hour mark.
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>>740065152
What about it? Wow was feature complete when it released, didn't rely heavily on RNG or Gacha mechanics, and then came out with large expansions every now and again.
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>>740064639
>young people
So not zoomers.
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I find it funny dad gamers complain about fighting games even more than the average scrub because it's the perfect game for their "busy schedule"
Games last literally less than 2-5 minutes and you can find somebody on your skill level if you play SF6/T8/GGST easily. And no, little timmy mashing buttons in gold rank is not a "sweat" he is just as shitty as you but he's having fun
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I've noticed that everyone that has one kid still gets to keep their life but once you get to three or more, you're basically just professional daddy. It seems mentally retarded to me. I actually don't feel any sympathy for their struggles at that point. Have one or two kids and I understand, but once you have three you should just blame yourself if it's overwhelming and money is tight.
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>>740060372
The one thing i absolutely despise about these "dad gamers" and other normie tourists is that they have no stomach for difficulty, challenge etc so every game needs to be some tried and tested sony movie game slop. But they also want games to be worth their money so instead of a good game you get 100 hour slog fest collectathons i would rather play 10h of kino than 90 hours of mid but this seems to be the minority opinion now a days
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>>740062371
>A man's purpose is to find a loyal wife and start a family with her
hm yes lets see...
>loyal wife
[X]
no longer exists. your options are used up whores with 3 children from different fathers and mentally insane witches that are single for a reason.
even if you find a sane one, there remains a non zero chance she gets corrupted by social media and ruined anyways.
>start a family
[X]
for multiple reasons, listed below:
>owning a home
[X]
all the housing has been turned into lifetime mortgages that the (((bank))) can take anyways once paid off by jacking up property taxes and eternal rent scams.
>raising children
[X]
inflation and taxes have been driven so high that both parents are forced to work slave jobs
as a result if you have children they are subjected to brainwashing from multiple fronts and you're not there to prevent it
>spending time with your family
[X]
the aforementioned slave jobs above prevent this.

sorry kike.
i know you want more goycattle tax slaves for your own children, but you shouldn't have ruined the world for the rest of us.
now your options are a mass noticing in the mainstream, ultimately resulting in hitler 2 (already starting and we WONT leave any of you behind this time) or to replace us with niggers before it happens (spoilers: they will not be able to maintain everything that us whites have built for you, you will die of an easily preventable disease in a world of ruins. if they dont kill you themselves over petty territorial disputes)
in the meantime i'll be playing my vidya and doing what i can to make people notice until its finally time to send every last jew to hell.
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>>740065318
I dunno how people struggle with fighting games but have no problem grinding shit like deadlock or lol or other types of competitive games, to me fighting games are by far the easiest type to be decent at
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>>740060848
Reminder to all non schizo anons to do something nice with your dads on the 21st this month for fathers day, don't end up like this loser.
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>>740065073
Millenials ACTUALLY be like
>heh, those stupid kids and their fucking *spits* video games... doing nothing in their lives but playing... fucking... call of duty... and gta... and mario... or whatever... glad that I grew up and moved on from that shit long ago, heh...
>OH MY SCIENCE!!! IS THAT A HECCIN CINEMATIC WALKING SIMULATOR EXPERIENCE WITH PRACTICALLY NO GAMEPLAY?! FINALLY SOMETHING FOR EPIC GROWN-UP MATURE GAMERS LIKE ME WHO KNOW THAT GAMING IS HECCIN ART LIKE MOVIES AND BOOKS!!!
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>>740060372
>Is there a bigger cancer in gaming than "dad gamers"?
Yeah, /v/iggers.
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>>740065073
those early access games are more of a game than all of your "narrative experiences" combined
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The real problem with "dad gamers" is they don't waste even half a second telling everyone they're a dad gamer. It's like that faggy I LOVE MY WIFE meme that was thankfully short lived.

Congratulations on your wife's children, you're still a faggot.
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>>740063980
Is that a dog that looks like a lion or a lion that looks like a dog?
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If you have 4 kids you shouldn't be play video games alone in your room

You should be drinking with your buddies in the pub
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>>740065906
It's also never followed up by "how do I get better" after spouting dad gamer nonsense it's always "I don't like this thing so change this thing"
I wouldn't hate it so much if it was just an excuse that they suck but they use it as an excuse AND demand the game caters to them, holy shit pick one
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>>740066043
>when you pass a certain threshold in life, you have to turn into your grandpa right down to his hobbies
This will always be a retarded take.

Women bitched about that, too, BTW. All of the hostility towards men's hobbies just comes from the fact that immature women hate men doing anything that isn't about them, and it should be paid zero respect.
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Old people would actually benefit mentally if they played videogames
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To all the kids complaining about uncs like me with kids of their own:

Yes, if your game is too hard I most likely will drop it, but not out spite. Does that mean I avoid any and all games with friction? No, I don't, matter of fact my favorite games of last year (Hades 2 & Silksong) are incredibly challenging, but they they also have so much more going on for them beyond just the gameplay that I'll gladly stick around for a very bumpy ride and get my ass beat over and over again.

Contrast this with Ninja Gaiden 4. Fantastic game, nothing wrong with it, but I had to drop it. Why? Because the game pretty much expects you to memorize a Tekken-sized move list right out the gate and keep track of like 12 mechanics. Unc moment? Skill issue? Git gud? Yup. Sure, I won't deny it. But I would have stuck with it longer had NG4 had literally anything else to offer beyond its gameplay, maybe the world, the characters, the story, anything, but no, it doesn't, so I couldn't bite the bullet and really try to learn it.

As an unc, if you want me to play your hard as fuck game, I need something beyond the challenge itself to reel me in.
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I don't know about other genres but dad gamers have completely fucked up MMOs. Instead of coming to terms that they have less time and moving onto other games, they just fucking bitch and complain about the amount of grind they have to do until the devs cave in. They LOVE timegated shit because they only want to play 15 min a day, especially if its cancer ass shit like an activity that provides x5 rewards the first time you do it every day. And they get updooted to the top every single time because of their sob stories, so they get the most visibility from the game companies
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>>740066440
>As an unc
Don't normalize zoomer/nigger language, have more respect for yourself
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>>740066458
Wait why would timegated shit be bad for a non-dad gamer?
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>>740066481
To be honest I like the term, it's funny and to the point. I don't have a complete disdain for the younger generation(s).
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>>740066481
shut the fuck up kike
don't tell anyone how to talk
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>>740066440
Some games just aren't for you. It's fine. Video games aren't actually hard so only actual children give a nigger. Just don't be like trannies on twitter by making demands for things games you'll never play.
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>>740066504
Because when you have the time and desire to play it's a flick to the nuts to be essentially forced to stop because developers are trying to force some kind of equality.
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>>740066458
I don't think that dad gamers like menial chores any more than anyone else does. I think that dailies and weeklies are just a way to pressure you into logging in every day and "it levels the playing field" (in a PvE game, nobody cares) is the lame excuse that devs use so that it doesn't just sound like an annoying anti-customer practice.

In that sense, dailies are actually unfriendly towards dad gamers who don't have three hours on weeknights and the entire weekend to play videogames.
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>>740061389
>Diablo 2 is literally a fucking item farming simulator, what are you smoking?
99.9% of the players played through the campaign and didn't farm shit, the amount of people that actually treated Diablo 2 as some kind of farming simulator is such a small %

It's like claiming everyone that played Heroes of Might and Magic was an e-sports fag
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>>740060372
It’s a very real thing. You get older, you slow down, you work and come home tired, you spend the last of your energy on playtime with the kid before they go to bed then you have maybe an hour or two before you go to sleep yourself. You just don’t have it in you to confront the FromSoft boss of overinflated HP with an endless combo and wonky hitbox. You just want to be entertained and unwind.

Because the real silver bullet for difficulty in vidya is that realisation all dads have where games aren’t anywhere near as fun and fulfilling as parenting is. Taking the kid for a day out and seeing their wonder and amazement at whatever play centre or activity you brought them to is far more of a dopamine hit than any hard videogame could be.

I only just got 100% on Silksong the other week despite playing it since launch. At no point did i feel any sense of gratification or accomplishment after beating Carmelita or Lost Lace or that fat fuck in the sewers. Finally seeing the kid take their first journey into walking after spending the last couple of months teaching them how to walk? THAT was the biggest moment I’d felt in years.

Hard games are nothing more than deceptive dopamine releases. Parenting is the real stuff. Hopefully you’ll get to have this realisation yourself one day.
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>>740066597
I don't even use social media like that bro, just whatsapp and insta for family and friends, and I never post anything. Always keep in mind that nagging and kvetching is almost always the voices of a very lpud minority, most people don't give a fuck about much.
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>>740060372
Yeah, people who read reddit.
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>>740065860
>call of duty
Aging audience of millennials. Desperately trying to remain relevant by including the likes of Nikki Minaj in hopes that Zoomers keep playing.

>and gta
Zoomers only play GTA online, where it's mostly sandbox nonsense and a hang out place that have replaced social spaces for their generation. They walk around sporting their digital wardrobe, in their digital cars doing a lot of nothing.

>and mario
Zoomers have mostly aged out of Mario. If it's not a creepypasta mod, they really don't care. The Mario audience is primarily aging millennials and gen alpha.
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>>740061320
Since we are quoting the bible, have you cummed inside your brother's wife's pussy yet? That's biblical and good before God.
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>>740066684
I'm not sure I follow? If you have more time to play the game thanba dad gamer then doing the time-gated events shouldn't be an issue for you? I don't really play MMOs like that anyway, just casually every now and then with friends
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>>740066440
Fair enough but as a guy in his 30s my favorite genres ARE the gameplay focused ones like fighting games and rhythm games. Challenge is fun because infinite ceilings are fun. Having something you can always improve on is fun whether you have 20 kids or 0
Which is why RPGs bore me so much because there is no challenge and the ceiling is very evident, it doesn't matter how good the story/character/whatever is like what you're looking for. Different strokes
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>>740065891
No they're not. They're friendslop designed to make people shout with cheap scares, and looter shooters.
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>>740065906
>The real problem with "dad gamers" is they don't waste even half a second telling everyone they're a dad gamer.
No the problem with them is that they for some reason decide they should play the most time consuming and hard games in the market and then DEMAND that it should be less time consuming and easier. They refuse to pick any of the thousands of other causal games to play, they just HAVE to play the series known for being grindy and hard.
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>>740062742
People used to have kids in their late teens to early 20s, so if they were gaming in their 30s the kids would be big enough to be more independent.
Now everyone waits until 30+ to have a baby.
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>>740066842
Okay, so you easily do the timegated events.
But now you want to play the game more and can't or have been robbed of the incentive for doing so. That's what the "gate" does.
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>>740066881
>They refuse to pick any of the thousands of other causal games to play, they just HAVE to play the series known for being grindy and hard
Some guy explained this phenomenon before and said it's simply FOMO
They want to join in on the hip cool new game conversation without any of the actual effort, that's why they won't play any actual casual games designed for them
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>>740067014
That's exactly what it is. Everyone is talking about a game, so they want to join in on the conversation. Except they can't because shit's too hard so they demand it be dumbed down to their level.
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very interesting how "dads" these days don't have time or energy to do anything. meanwhile my dad has 2 kids when he was in his late 20s, working as a carpenter, studying, playing soccer, painting models etc.

he was a different kind of man compared to me ill admit that but still come on, you can play a fucking video game on normal difficulty
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>>740060970
Im 31 and i shit on younger players all the time.
I also had my cognitive abilities tested last month and scored mostly above average if bot way above average.
People that treat being 30 as if theyre 80 with alzheimer just cope about being complacent and refuse to challenge themselves.
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>>740063026
Yea when my first was born we didn’t really know what to do and were miserable all night with crying, with the second we had a routine down and would just quickly deal with everything (feeding/diaper) and he would be asleep again pretty quickly
After 2-3 months they calm down a lot more and it gets way easier as well.
Night time is when I can get most of my work and gaming done honestly.
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>>740067131
You ever get told by someone that they have no free time to do anything and one day you manage to observe them during the free time they claim they don't have and they're just watching youtube or browsing twitter?
It's like that.
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>>740067131
Well video games are genuinely a way bigger timesink than any other hobby. If I spent a fraction of the time i spend on games doing anything else id be a master of it. People sink thousands of hours into arpgs or mobas

But yeah dad gamers take it to some retarded level where if the game is more than 6 hours its too much
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>>740060970
idk man I think you're coping hard and it just sounds pathetic
im pushing 28 and my reflexes are just as good as they are 10 years ago
even with a physical job that wears me the hell out I'm still topping lobbies, if anything all my instincts, habits, and reflexes I've cultivated over the years have made me a better player
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>>740060372
What sort of retarded dad with barely any time to play video games to begin with would concern himself over getting all the achievements?
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>>740060372
Give a lad some slack, he has some priority and he wants to chill. Mate needs a happy little moment for himself.
(I'm a wizard so no kids for me, anyway I don't judge)
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>>740066842
I got gaslit into trying GW2 with my friends because it had such good reviews. This game is the king of timegates. The way it works is that anything you do is just ultra efficient for a bit and then has a severe drop off. So the guy who does his chores for 30 min a day for 10 days is actually incredibly ahead of the guy who grinded for 5 hours straight on his saturday. Now of course who gives a shit about comparing yourself to others in a PvE game, but this also kind of affects you as a solo player because then why the fuck would I do an activity for 20% efficiency
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>>740060372
I dont see an issue with any of this, dude has other responsibilities
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>>740060372
Dunno what's more possibile a dad gamer with a job will buy your games or a bunch of brown people that asks for crack every time a new release hit the stores?
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>>740067553
Ah OK that makes sense. Yeah does sound pretty lame actually.
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>>740060372
That and
>waaa game is too long I'm too busy make it shorter!
"gamers," both cut from the same cloth

Who the fuck cares if you get bored of the game before the credits, just drop it and move on. A delicious meal isn't any worse just because you couldn't finish the plate.
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>>740060372
You are jealous because you will never breed.
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>>740060372
Why would someone young enough to give a shit about pointless achievements have 4 kids?
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>>740068181
There's some people that actually think this is some great accomplishment that you found some woman pathetic enough to settle for you to pass down your flawed genes like millions of your predecessors.
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>>740068380
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>>740060970
I'm 30 and I feel the same if not somewhat better than I did 5-10 years ago. I don't know what you're doing in your life that makes you feel like a decrepit old man at that age but it's a skill issue.
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>>740068586
Wish I could send a voice in this bitch but yeah ditto, I'm 32 and I look and feel better than I ever have in my 20s. I will say this however: my energy for gaming is not what it used to be, that anon is not completely wrong, I got way too much shit going to focus on gaming like that
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>>740068232
They want to be "rewarded" for absolute minimum effort because being a father is so hecking hard
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>>740062371
you're in the wrong place pal
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>>740060372
>hate "muh cheevos" fags
>hate fags that want their "cheevos" without actually going through any challenge, which is what achievements were originally made for
I don't care if people want to chill and mindlessly play easy games or run around on pseudo-god mode but holy shit. You can't have your cake and eat it, choose one or the other and fuck your worthless ePeen points.
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>>740060672
>"could easily just switch to mobile gaming with retro chinkhelds"
>look at myself right now
>can barely play anything other than gba/ds turn based games on my phone because I feel too busy and burnt out all the time
>I'm still in law school, and I still live with my mom
Man, even if I don't have kids, I really am fucked aren't I?
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>>740060372
I'm a Dad gamer and I want nothing more than to locking achievements behind the hardest difficulty, and even the real ending and final level too.
Games need to shame people more.
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>>740060372
Jews
Blackrock
Trannies
Snoyggers
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>>740069207
Yeah sounds goo-
>real ending
Nah fuck off you don't speak for me. Bitter asshole.
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>>740069293
Pussy.
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>>740069357
Bitch.
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>>740060372
why do people have kids when it’s clearly not for them (they keep playing video game) or vice versa why do they play games when they’re supposed to be a parent? if you’re gonna play games you’re hedonistic so just get that vasectomy and fuck all you want so you can have your cake and eat it too.
>inb4 better man
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>>740069454
Thank you for removing yourself from the gene pool, we need less idiots in it.
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>>740069495
I never said I had one. regardless, Gamers shouldn’t have kids.
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>>740060372
Finding out my dad is a quirk chungus who posts on reddit is the same as finding your mom getting plowed in the living room by the mailman with your dad video taping
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>>740069615
Nah I don't think it's the same. Unless you know from experience?
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>>740067131
Way more distractions in your pocket nowadays.
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>>740060672
>>740060848
>mention the word 'dad'
>faggots immediately turn up to start blogging
shit no wonder this place is full of easily led sheep who worship grifting chudtubers lmao. shut the fuck up and maybe try therapy you sad cunts.
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>>740063903
>What am I supposed to do besides watch him and wake her up for breastfeeding?
She could milk herself and refrigerate it so you can feed the kid, I guess.
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>>740066748
I don’t need to be a parent to realize that. I see it with my little nephews and stuff. I totally get it but man I’m not gonna be responsible for a life that’s not my own. I don’t even have pets. That ain’t for me.
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>>740060372
The way redditors type is actually infuriating.

Its like they all pride themselves on being passive dough people.a

Yeah 4chan is full of edgy chuds but they dont piss ke off nearly as much as their people.
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>>740060372
Actually these gamerdads are based because they perfectly call out the issue with a lot of modern games today. They all try their hardest to keep up your attention to only them with retarded gimmicks only korean mmos or gacchas used to have.
Difficuilty achievements were also always a bit bs in most games.
I still however hate dad gamers because most white men become absolutely frustratingly retarded as soon as they either turn 40 or become father, I don't know why.
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>>740063026
what retarded argument is this. You still can't leave your kid alone, you can't play in his vicinity in peace and you maybe have 2 hours of nighttime to yourself which gametime has to share with your wifetime.
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>>740069854
Because if you seethe and go any harder than passive aggressiveness on reddit you get banned. That's why everyone speaks with a chud accent
But don't act like the edgy chuds here are any different, 4chan has been reddit with slurs for years now with noting but porn and engagement threads
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>>740063834
>dad always was the one buying my consoles
>never once played any games with me except for the buzz ps2 games with these retarded controllers (loved it)
>Decades pass and recently caught him playing on the fucking switch he got for my sisters daughters by himself having fun
Why didn't he play any halo or lost planet with me? Maybe then I wouldn't have such a problem with him
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gamer dads with real self awareness know to fuck off and play elite dangerous
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>>740069854
Seriously. For every " 0/10 would not fuck" incel post i see here there are 100 wholesome quirk chunguses just like OP and it's way worse
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>>740066860
none of those are the same kind of game.
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>>740070046
Real dad gamers fuck off to some persistent simulator or map conquest game.
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>>740060970
>what am I cooking for dinner
Do a weekly meal plan, build it around the days you can go shopping and then you’ll have one less thing to think about throughout the week.
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>Kids
I just want a dog, video games and my hobbies.
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I don't care about your kids.
I don't care about your wife.
I don't care about your job.
Congratulations, you're an adult.
Act like one.
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>>740067014
Fomo is definitely part of it, its the reason Gacha monetization works and its the reason journos clap when a game is short.
20+ years ago you could keep up with most major game release, tv shows and as a kid you were only limited by your money.
Nowadays it's impossible to keep up and the industry figured that they can make people pay to make up for their limited time.

>>740070317
adulthood got postponed nowadays. Without conscription, with social safety nets and delayed parenthood, the only thing that changes past childhood is trading a chair in school for a chair in an office. People continuously vote for having their responsibility taken away from them.
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>>740070312
I think that anyone who can find joy in raising a puppy can find joy in having a kid. We've been programmed hard to by anti-natalists and foreign subversives to see them as pains in the asses with no focus on the good parts.

Dogs can be a pain in the ass, too.
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>>740070556
>delayed parenthood
and you vote for boomer city council members who cockblock housing so your property values go up so you can eventually sell to elite Chinese communists instead of working family es, so you can give all your money to healthcare oligarchs for all your end of life care
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>>740070617
Sorry, I forgot possibly the biggest one: feminists.
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>>740070556
>conscription
Yeah I can't say that turned anyone that went through with it into an adult. They literally take care of you there, just gotta do as they say.
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>>740060372
Yesterday we had an mmo thread where there were some zoomers complaining about uncs wanting harsh gameplay in mmos instead of the themepark like design zoomers like. I find OPs outlook terribly contrarian
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>>740060372
This just makes it seem like the dad in OPs post doesnt actually enjoy playing the game. He just wants to beat it as quickly as possible and move on to the next thing.

So what if you lose a few times and get stuck on a level for a few days? If the game is good and youre having fun it shouldnt be a problem. If the dopamine only comes when you reach the end credits then maybe you dont like video games that much and should try another hobby
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>>740070748
"Dad gamers" are mostly zillennials so it checks out. Gen Z starts in the mid 90s, early zoomers are 30 already.
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>>740069907
>Difficuilty achievements were also always a bit bs in most games.
Yeah, there should only be one for beating it on the hardest setting.
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>>740071169
You could just announce you’re about to make a retarded post, there wouldn’t be a difference. Shitposting used to be an art form
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>>740060372
>Difficulty? Make it a walking simulator!
>My priority are ""achievements""
>Look up the meaning of that word? Why?
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Dad gamers might unironically be the most entitled audience. They have minimal buying power but somehow consider it a developer's moral responsibility to appease them. Twitter/reddit types in general are like this.
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>>740070730
>just gotta do as they say
and many people will struggle with just this.
having no responsibility, no discipline, no urge to do more than is asked for and no fear to just survive.
This generation will go outside with an unironed shirt to their sub 40hour job and will tell you with a straight face that they don't have enough time for themself.
no I'm not a boomer, I just hate the the affluent society whining about mundane things in the face of their ancestors while literally killing itself. Kaczynski was right.
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Dad gamers are primarily an Issue in the USA.
Where corporations have brainwashed the public in to having kids move away at 18 so they are forced to do any job and not complain because they cant fall back on their family if the job is shitty.
Or have their parents help in taking care of kids.

I am a dad gamer in Europe and i somehow managed to squeeze in 2-3 hours a day. It was only somewhat bad the first year.
My mom and dad and my wife's mom and dat look after my kid several hours a week in fact they insist on it.
My mom specifically would take and pick up my kid from school because its a 10 minute walk away so i even had a normal relaxing free morning before i got to work.
Once my kid went to school i can easily game up to 4 hours a day. And iv known to game even 8 hours on weekends.
And again i dont let a tablet raise my kid. I let it play games on my old PC and PS3 and Switch.
But again i dont live in the US and dont spend 2 hours a day on commute. My commute is 30-40 minutes total a day.
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>>740071328
Please don't kill yourself because my post upset you, I'd feel bad about it.
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>>740060372
>Is there a bigger cancer in gaming than "dad gamers"?
Trucker gamers.
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>>740062371
I'm not subjecting my kid to a kike fascist dystopia
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>>740060372
women are pretty bad too.
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>>740071601
Yea having in laws/my family around makes things so much easier.
I’d have never had kids if this wasn’t the case, or at least not more than 1.
I have 3 now, new baby born last month, and it’s still not a big hassle since we have 4 grandparents regularly around plus great grandparents as well and my sisters.



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