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>Released in 2011
>It's 15 years old
>Most beloved of the saga
>With Souls games being more popular than ever

why the fuck don't they remake it like Demon Souls?
Literally free money
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>>740188979
kek
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>>740188979
Why does it need a remake you stupid fucking troglodyte faggot?
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>>740189019
why are you laughing tranny
>>740189052
because it's 15 fucking years old, I'd say it's about time we got a remake
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>>740189229
Just laughing at you bronybro.
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>>740188979
It doesn't need a remake the remaster already downgraded it
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>>740188979
i will take the bait and ask what actually should be remade about it? its graphics still look awesome. its biggest issue is its endgame, but you dont really need to touch the first half
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>>740189308
yes it does
>>740189313
>its graphics still look awesome
looks like a shitty PS2 game now
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>>740189052
because half the game is barebones half finished dragon ass infested slop. BUT and this is a big BUT, please don't outsource this shit, it HAS TO BE FROMSOFT
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>>740189313
>i will take the bait and ask what actually should be remade about it?
It's all the exact same but now there's an ending about marrying Gwyndolin and ruling Anor Londo together
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>>740189379
>looks like a shitty PS2 game now
what game looks good to you?
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>>740189410
graphixfags only care about product while getting excited for next product don't even bother engaging with them.
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>mfw the midnight launch for DS1
Nothing will compare. Other games in the series are arguably superior, but if you were a Demon's Souls OG in 2011 this shit was mindblowing
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>>740189515
>divine infusion
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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kill yourself remake NIGGER
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>>740189515
ds1 needs the SOTFS treatment
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>>740189639
isn't that what ptde is
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>>740189752
how the fuck did you not hear Mr. Skeletal's wake up sound? this one is on you desu
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>>740189639
No absolutely not
>>740189752
No PTDE was just a bundle of the base game and DLC
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>>740189918
wrong
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>>740189971
All those enemies were in the base game as well it's your fault for pulling aggro on 20 mobs and running into a deadend
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>>740190024
>it's your fault for pulling aggro on 20 mobs and running into a deadend
so, like every ds2 gank example ever
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>>740189971
a strength chad would have cleared that entire room in a couple of swings
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>>740188979
Dark Souls 1 is still my favorite
PTD Edition of course, not "Remastered"
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>>740188979
I mean there kinda is one already. They could do a graphical update again but if you're gonna an actual remake I would hope for improvements to the back half dungeons or something like making Artorias of the Abyss a mandatory diversion to complete the game.
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>>740189971
when i first tried the game i uninstalled it for this exact area
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>>740189313
The logical thing would be to rebuild DS1 in the updated engine of Elden Ring while keeping the slow, methodical combat, but Michael Zaki probably prefers for Fromsoft to work on new titles instead. It's also obvious that the Demon Souls remake only happened because he has less leverage over it compared to Dark Souls and Bloodborne.
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>>740188979
Did the remaster actually change anything?
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>>740190787
introduced an item duplication glitch that lets you trivialize the game, if you want to do that for some reason
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>>740190787
it added one bonfire
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>>740190787
>>740191014
It also fucked with the artstyle, not as egregiously as the DeS one, but still did.
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>>740188979
I always get bored toward the end and stop playing, maybe I should do a build other than strength
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>>740191679
Do a DEX build
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>>740191679
Chaos Blade+Power Within+Ring of the Evil Eye+Dark Wood Grain Ring and a light armor of your choice(Shadow Set is appropriate), don't level vitality too much*. Live on the edge.

*you lose 20 health each time you hit an enemy, and 40 against Four Kings so you still need to level it.
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I liked the catacombs, Tomb of the giants and Lost Izalith
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>>740191014
Where?
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>>740192247
I enjoyed Catacombs and Tomb too but I can understand people disliking them for being gimmick dungeons with the first being made easier by divine weapons or needing to kill the necromancers and the second needing a light source. Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith demon spam and dragon asses enemy placement was just bad though.
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>>740192654
Next to Vamos, the skeleton blacksmith in the catacombs next to the wheel skeleton area.
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>>740188979
It already got a remaster, what else do you need
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>>740189971
It was always like that anon. You're suppose to use that narrow hallway to manage them and damage multiple times in one hit while also being a monster closet designed to kill you.
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>>740190787
Yeah it added some decent QOL features, like password summoning and being able to offer covenant items in bulk, among lots of other little things
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>>740192798
Which is a MAJOR improvement if you want fire or chaos weapons
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>>740188979
>DS2 > DeS > DS1 > Thrash > BB > DS3 > ER
if you disagree with this you are a faggot tranny
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>>740193074
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>>740193074
can't you just call people gay
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>>740193017
or a major improvement if you just want a way around those fucking bonewheels
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>>740193074
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>>740193317
Post the one where Chosen Undead has a little sip of sunny D after falling into Nito's hole.
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>>740193074
>Play DAS2 Scholar for the first time
>Most areas are okay except for No Man's Wharf, which is a stand out in design for me (Shulva is my favorite but it's DLC so I don't count it)
>Find out later that the bridge shortcut was only added to Scholar and it wasn't in vanilla DAS2

This game SUCKS
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>>740193456
did you enjoy how they placed petrified statues everywhere for no fucking reason
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>>740188979
>everyone used to shit on this game
>now everyone loves it
god i love being vindicated ds2 was always good sure it has some shitty parts but overall it's a pretty good game
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>>740193554
>replying to pasta
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its been awhile since a new soulsgame, ER came out in 2022, before that they were basically every other year. I'd like to see a new theme like Bloodborne or Sekiro. Maybe something persian and egyptian themed
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>>740193554
I didn't mind because I always had one. Very Metroidvania

>>740193621
You wish I was pasta. You know I'm right. There are basically no good areas in Dark Souls 2
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>>740193660
>You wish I was pasta.
well faggot, someone replied to me with that exact same text and image before
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>>740193717
Probably me. No Man's Wharf is the best designed area in the game and it's not even close

AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ONE OF ITS BEST PARTS (the shortcut back to the bonfire) IN VANILLA
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>>740193805
No Man's Wharf is ASS
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>>740193643
What is From even developing besides Tarnished Edition for the Switch 2 right now
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>>740193893
Compared to what? The Black fucking Gulch?
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>>740192798
There was always a bonfire near vamos.
I have the original 360 disk version and haven't played the remaster.
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>>740193660
most of the level design is trash, it's also ugly as shit aside from a few areas like Heide's Tower and the dragon place.
I can forgive the ugliness a bit though bc I chunks of DS1 are also ugly as hell so it's not like it came out of nowhere
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>>740194023
>Heide's Tower

Conceptually, I like it, but it goes nowhere compared to New Londo Ruins, which has maybe one of the greatest world changing cutscenes in any game.
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>>740188979
>>Most beloved of the saga
3 is better than 1
t. Dark Souls 1 is my favorite game of all time
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>>740189313
graphics suck but remaking it with the modern mechanics would completely ruin it
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>>740194269
3 has better combat, but playing 1 blind before any other Souls games is a magical experience.
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>>740193805
The Bastille is better.
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>>740194532
Yea, Dark Souls was a formative experience for me
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>>740194560
Not my favorite area (obviously), but it's at least a "full" area that isn't just a rehash of Dark Souls 1 like how The Gutter is just Blighttown 2
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>>740194801
I like it because it's huge, intricate, has a ton of "illusory" walls, and you can start from either the FoFG or the Wharf.
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>>740194938
I wish Heide's Tower was connected to it or they somehow were able to plop it onto it. Heide's Tower is such a missed opportunity (looks great but no interesting gameplay)
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>>740189386
It's only a one part that's like that.
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>>740188979
I didn't read the thread but the vaginas a sðyboys in charge now would ruin it. You really don't want a remake.
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>>740190134
No? The No man's Wharf webm that gets posted has all the enemies in that plaza.
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>>740194269
3 is dogshit and literally r1 & rollslop spam. The original game has poise, and you can use shields and the map is way better. That's a fact.
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>>740195539
>The original game has poise
>facetanking every boss with havels or stone giants and a str weapon
poise was fucking thrash in 1 for pve
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>>740195639
At least it's a choice. You don't have to make a poise build. In 3 it's all rollslop and r1 spam. That's all the game is built around.
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>>740189313
>what actually should be remade about it?
updated graphics with removal of anti twinking bullshit in favor of scaling would be enough.
but if they are doing an actual remake, then i would go for
>have elden ring jump/duck. update boss attacks accordingly
>remove the dogshit anti twinking matchmaking because it doesnt actually work anyways. add in weapon/armor level scaling to be nearer to hosts weapon/armor level.
>rework lost izalith and bed of chaos boss
>make gravelord able to curse NG worlds but only spawn in an extra monster or two that is same power as regular ones for NG.
>add in some NG+ only invasions
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>>740190787
you dont need a 3rd party program to make it work, the game doesnt break when you climb up a ladder, and the bonfires look different.
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>>740190787
it was mainly to make the PC version work without that stupid DSfix thing
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>>740193554
Yes because i like using items to explore new areas. That's every adventure game.
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>>740195483
all 4 enemies wow
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>>740197513
guys this game looks bad, im sorry
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>>740193995
You probably mean the one behind the illusory wall. They added another one literally in Vamos' room, and you can warp to it.
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>>740197705
wrong
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>>740197705
it really is dated any one saying otherwise is just coping don't worry about it
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>>740188979
I never stopped playing it and probably never will
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>>740198717
STR or DEX?
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>>740198717
Stop invading people at Iron Keep dog
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>>740198894
IDIOT!!!!!
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>>740199057
>Me when I was trying to beat the Iron Keep gank and somebody just invaded me
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>>740188979
>why the fuck don't they remake it like Demon Souls?
Because it doesn't need a remake, you peabrained faggot, fuck off.
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>>740189229
>because it's 15 fucking years old, I'd say it's about time we got a remake
I'd say it's about time you fucking killed yourself.
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>>740192714
Everyone hates on Lost Izaleth, and it does suck, but I hate Tomb of the Giants so much. Such a stupid area, which sucks because catacombs is great.
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>>740193396
And I enjoy each one.
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>>740189052
It's in desperate need of QoL features like not losing your souls when you die and letting you reload if you make a bad decision.
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>>740194532
>better combat
Poise doesn’t exist, just spam r1, good job, you beat 99% of the mobs. Sometimes the poise is so low you can roll into the enemies and that’ll stun them. DS3 is easily the worst. Combat sucks, more shallow builds than 2, linear(oh boy, kill the dancer and get to lothoric early! And you’re gated from the archives… great), everything is just castles and graveyards, no enemy mobs have gimmicks it’s just kill them with a fast swing weapon as quickly as possible, NPC invaders are boring and a step down from 2, covenants are a mess. blues can’t help with dogs or Aldrich invasions, even though blades literally has a beef with Aldrich covenant, there are two blue covenants, they do the exact same thing, so no reason for that, no blue eye orb, no reason to ever summon purple guys with white soapstone, you can do 99% of the damage to a phantom as a purple, but the last tick of damage is done by anything else, doesn’t count to your phantoms killed to get your reward, red phantom reward is given even without being in the covenant, so the covenant is useless, sunbros can invade now but not blues?! What? Just a mess, the only good thing is you can also on the way of blue item, so if you get invaded hopefully you can help a dude out trying to farm the concords.
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>>740200369
How do you people exist? If you like one game in the series then you should like all three, they all offer that same goodness.
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>>740200046
b8
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I wish I could hate remakefags to death.
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>>740200723
theyre different games and 2 doesnt offer shit
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>replaying DS3
>trying to figure out how to complete some npc quests I never bothered with
>for some of them, resting at a nearby bonfire doesn't trigger npc actions, you have to reload or warp to firelink and back

whatever the fuck the next big fromsoft game is, just hope they get rid of this kings field ass quest design
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>>740191679
>defeat Biggie Smalls
>will to play plummets
It be like that with DS1
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>>740200723
I like 3, but it’s easily the worst of the trilogy and even worse than ER. It didn’t take a lot of good ideas 2 added for no reason, but took ideas from both without properly understanding why they did those things. An example of both, getting rid of power stance, great idea that added variety and depth to combat, so no reason to remove it. Brought back quick healing from estus, but made it so rolling away is easy to do and cost no stamina, so invasions suck. They didn’t understand why both 1 and 2 chose different paths on healing speed and stamina consumption on rolls, so it just became obnoxious. 3 has no heart or soul, it copied ideas and removed without thinking, so yes, it’s still fun, but it’s clearly inferior to games that had an idea.
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>>740197513
I had no idea it could do that
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>>740200824
All three are part of the same series and are close enough to each other that I can't understand having these radical opinions on them. I can understand having a preference for one entry over the other but you people that just vehemently hate one entry are full of shit.
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>>740201112
no theyre not, 2 sucks ass
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>>740201096
You're looking at things with tunnel vision. They removed power stancing but added dedicated paired weapons instead which had more interesting move-sets. They added weapon skills which further added variety and depth to each weapon as well. Rolling was balanced fine because it's a faster paced game so having it consume less stamina makes sense. Game design elements like player mobility and healing speed should be relative to how fast and aggressive enemies are, which is how it was in 3. The game had plenty of heart and soul, especially in the dlc.
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>>740189515
uncs really be like
>THIS SHIT FUN AF DOE
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>>740201587
true
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>>740190621
>The back half of the game sucks, how do we improve it?
>Make the DLC with the obnoxious dragon boss mandatory so we extend the playtime even more!
why are you like this anon
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>>740200369
>Poise doesn’t exist, just spam r1, good job, you beat 99% of the mobs.
So it's the exact same combat, it's just harder because you can't just poise through enemy attacks? Yeah, anybody who did a poiseless no-shield run of DS1 knew this already.
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Why are people in this thread pretending like /v/ hasn't complained that the game is literally unfinished for 15 years? I remember when Remastered was announced and everyone here begged them to do more than just a port. Is it a newfag thing?
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>>740201181
its literally the same fucking game as 1
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>>740201886
youre actually retarded
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>>740201657
Yes, some of the best bosses in the game should be mandatory.
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>>740188979
demons souls got a remake because sony owns the IP and wanted a next-gen souls game on ps5
bamco owns the dark souls IP, but they don't have the same motivations to want a ds1 remake when they could ask for elden ring 2 or ds4 or ac6.5 please god
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>>740188979
I'm going to start researching games that zoomers hold dear to them and begging developers to remake them. Tired of you brainrotted brats.
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>>740202205
Grow up, söylennial
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>>740201394
>tunnel vision
I’ve literally replayed the games the last several months, 3 was a drag start to finish, and the two DLCs are the least engaging too. Even on release over a decade ago I liked 3 the least and when I went into it again this year I was hoping my memory was wrong, it’s not.
And all of that is inferior to 1 and 2. Got rid of a diverse idea like pairing a curved sword with a rapier or spear all so you can have a couple dual swords, one dual maces, and two(maybe just one) dual spears, literally a step down. Ash of wars was a good idea, and it’s why ER made it better, no complaints about it. Rolling isn’t balanced, because the speed of the game made it so I could run past all the enemies and just beeline it to the boss, the area was no longer hazardous, I barely died to enemies in the overworld in 3 because of the ease that you can disengage and how fast you are. And that healing was rarely punished, just roll away and chug, now I’m back to square one, expect the enemy has less health, because the bonfires were gratuitous in numbers.
The DLCs are fine, but there’s no reason to do them after the first NG cycle because they didn’t add anything to NG+ bar better rings, which the DLC has better rings than the base game on NG++. I’m telling, I’ve played them all recently, 3 is the worst. There is no bias, 3 is a boring slog once you realize it’s all linear and exploring and NG+ gives you no satisfaction unlike 1 and 2. Bosses are not what made these games fun, exploring and trying different things did, and 3 has the worst areas to explore, the most linear world, bad build diversity, and a world that all feels the same. You can like 3 as much as you want, I like it, but to say “they’re all basically the same” is stupid, 3 has more in common with BB than 1/2, and it suffers because of that.
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>>740201820
Except poise exist in 1/2 so I can decide how much poise I want and it changes on each build, in 3 poise is just always doing a no poise run. What a stupid thing to say.
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>>740202390
You first.
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>>740202502
I don't know why you guys place so much importance on being able to do each area in any order but the levels themselves are not linear or at least not anymore so than what's in previous games. That's what's actually important, they still have all the looping shortcuts, nooks and crannies to explore, and things to find. I don't know why you'd play a game just to run by enemies but that's only possible because you know the layout of things and where the bonfires are. If you're actually exploring and engaging with the levels then you're going to be fighting things. Bonfires were not gratuitous, the levels themselves were larger so more were needed. If you find issue with how they broke up the areas by placing one after each boss then I can't help you there because it really does not matter. If you were never punished when healing then that just means you're good at the game and chose good moments to heal. I don't know why you're complaining about being good at a game but plenty of enemies are still threatening. Generally, replaying a game is an easier time because you know what to expect and what you're doing. Areas still have hazards like dragons, the giant archer dude, breakable pots with homing dark orbs, arrow traps, the fireball turrets, the giant crossbow thing, angels, poison/lava, and so on. I won't convince you to like the game but man, I just think some of you guys are so nitpicky sometimes. I love all three DaS games. I love BB, Sekiro, and ER as well. They're all superb games so I hate seeing all the entry warring. Played them all on release and never once thought any of them was a "slog".
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>>740193961
Duskbloods for Switch 2
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>>740201657
the dlc dragon boss is optional..
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>>740203098
Not reading any of that, I’ve explained it, I’ve told you why it’s inferior, you keep going “but I don’t understand” stop being a glue eating tard and realize 3 is fundamentally not the same as Demon’s/1/2. The core is mostly the same, the details are vastly different, and that’s all I need to say why I find 3 the least enjoyable. If you can’t grasp nuance, that’s not my problem. I didn’t even go into many other little things like NPC invasions being a step backwards too.
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>>740201856
Because the reputation of Remakes as a concept has steadily plummeted in the last 10 years, to the point that 9/10 remakes end up worse than the original.
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>>740201657
Kalameet is more fun than Manus just don’t get hit by the grab or else your ears get raped
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>>740189379
Your mom
>>740189386
You just described DS2 you retard
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>>740189971
>getting filtered at the parish
>better post it on /v/!
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Bros I would KILL for a remake like Demon's Souls got, fix up those ugly ass face models and use face scanning to make them look real and up the immersion!!!

Even shitposting like this makes me feel sick.
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>>740203796
The entire DLC is optional, though you really should fight Artorias

https://youtu.be/QfOTFEaW6XA
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>>740188979
>2011 was 15 years ago
>people born a year after smartphones were presented to the public can legally post on 4chan
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I love these games :)
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>>740205280
That's the first time I've seen it paired with in-game content, and I must say, it's good they kept it out. It's completely at odds with the writing in the rest of the game. Very "modern" for lack of a better term.
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>>740205395
yeah
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>>740202084
ITS LITERALLY THE SAME GAME
oh no they removed iframes from the doors so different and scawy :(
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>>740205530
Having any dialogue at all is out of place in comparison to so many other boss intro cutscenes

https://youtu.be/5W_18-tAW7U
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>>740193317
>that comic
This place used to be so much better
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>>740206901
The death of sincerity has been a tragedy for us all.
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>>740189052
why DON'T you want a remake? it doesn't make your copy of DS1 disappear
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>>740207108
The Remaster literallly did that for PTDE, so if you wanted to buy it again, like for example you wanted to gift it to a friend, then you're shit out of luck.
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>>740206995
lol can you actually kill the dragons guarding Allant?
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>>740207508
Yup. It's difficult to aim but if you lock on while standing directly under its chin you can shoot it to death.
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>>740207367
things go out of print. buy your friend a copy of DS1 on PS3, which should be the definitive release of the game by your logic anyways
>he thinks he "owns" games on steam
you didn't address my point tho which is that a DS1 remake doesn't make your cherished version of DS1 disappear.
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>>740207108
>dude just split the playerbase even more
Never a good thing for co-op and invading.



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