This is what wokeness looks like, the term has been so watered down with bullshit discourse between ratchet extremes that it’s lost meaning- but we are talking about a niche hobby adopted, largely, by lower to middle class men who use it as a tool for escapism or one of the few things they feel they can control in modern society. For many reasons beyond the “male fantasy” has it always been this male dominated space.Truthfully, outside the most blatant misogynistic perspective, most gamers had no issue sharing a niche space with women- you are a guest in their space, you are welcome so long as you behave. It’s pretty much the basis behind the, admittedly radical and silly, concept of “tits or gtfo” while on 4chan. Asking as a matter of fact, what the fuck did you expect coming here? Play nice or BTFO.>modern wokenessSo what does that even mean now, with the word so polluted? Nothing really, but if a replacement word were to exist- it’s adjacent to a propaganda push, and intent to alienate and radicalize a niche core audience away from an online space or interest. Perpetual victims are looking to take your hobby you use to distract yourself from their existence and make it all about them- bereft of the intent to make it actually worth a damn as a game experience or meaningful art piece.
culture war /pol/tard thread
Gaming is female
>>740306618>we were never a sidequestironically, correct. women as an audience were irrelevant to video games. what few legitimately played games before social media and smartphones were odd exceptions.
>>740306618if you want your hobby to burn down in flames invite over a bunch of women.
>Lara Croft is hot again>This is somehow indicative of female gamers rising up or somethingThis is admittedly pretty funny. You can make arguments for the others I guess but Lara is clearly still made to be ogled, and thank God for that, because it's inherent to her femme fatale aesthetic, she's supposed to be hot.I guess the frustrating part of all this is while there are important discussions to be had here, they're rarely done in good faith, often made by the most disgusting cretins the hobby has to offer, and there's absolutely no compromising, women leads are either too sexy or woke mind virus with nothing in between.In short, if you take this seriously, seek help, and if you don't, well, I hope for both our sakes these games end up being fun.
>>740306618Adding another thought, growing up I wanted my hobby to be more mainstream. I existed in the brief period between gaming and anime being a hobby worth bullying someone over and it being the mainstream entertainment for a whole generation.I wanted “normies” or women or whatever to get in on it so I could have a community that’s greater than the sum of its parts.Then it became a “vertical”, it became something worth politicizing beyond themes in gaming like metal gear solid. Now it’s adopted, and the core audience is this perpetually radical painted entity that’s represented only in the worst extremes within a space they curated to begin with.World of Warcraft died pandering to the layman.Dungeons and Dragons was already fucking up ever since 4e, and then stranger things hit it like a fucking truck.League of Legends tried to “solve metas” and is solely a monetization vertical for skin slaves and ArcanetardsPokémon has never needed to improve its game design, because the layman will buy it fucking regardless. SwSh was one of the most profitable releases in franchise history despite all its dramaAnd many, many more.Remember, gaming will die if you don’t gatekeep it. Don’t let them shame you for celebrating when their champion games die like Concord, Marathon or whatever the fuckAnd fuck them for trying to spoil one of the few niche interests that I let become important to me, in a world where I am designed to be a cog in the machine. I never go into niches that aren’t within my interests or worldview and DEMAND they change and pander to me. I know we can live in a world where we coexist
>>740306706The post literally denounced the word but go off queen>>740306706
>>740307296>Dungeons and Dragons was already fucking up ever since 4e, and then stranger things hit it like a fucking truck.For all the outrage about D&D you can't do shit to tabletop because it lives or dies on table-by-table basis. Nothing forces you to engage with the latest edition or any other tabletop game you don't like since books themselves are toolsets you use to run your own stuff. Unless you want them to Orcs in your game won't magically turn into pic related simply because WotC commissioned the artwork, for example.
>>740307294Oh no, I agree. The culture war stuff is downright retarded. I don’t take it seriously so much as an oppositional, radical audience does take what media typical male-oriented audience consume way, way too seriously.This is much more a declarative, “kindly fuck off and let us have what little we have in life”There’s no “going to war” over this bullshit
>>740307539Totally agree. Just don’t play with canon-respective tables. From my experience, more creative types are thrilled to be given more creative liberty anyway.It’s just really shitty that WotC identifies the wrong people as “the core audience”.To them, it’s the sensitivity-minded, real world culture adjacent, non profitable touristy types
>>740307539True. This is reflected on the sales figures of modern rulebooks
>>740307539which is funny since D&D is probably having a heyday since the early days of ogl. licensed settings and social media cancer turned into campaigns. hell, some of those even spun off into their own standalone games where you can't roll failures in combat.
>>740306618I'll just not play them
>>740308097WAKE UP
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>>740308636BITSY NO
>>740306618>curates an audience with reboot>poster child of the dad game genre>”let’s make it a game about being a woman. Get out chuds, women can game too!”Please fuck off and let men have literally anything to themselves for once
>>740307589This has always been my stance, “just let me have something.” The whole performative outrage people got trained on by streamers is exhausting. I cringe when female-led games are bad because I know from having a mother and sister that they do deserve quality. But I want something too, and watching games like Dispatch get bitched at for being “too hetero” seriously irks me. It makes me think, “god, you really do just hate us, huh?”This reminds me of a conversation I had on Discord - I know, I know - with a small community I’m part of. It was during the height of the Iran War. I expressed to a group with a significant trans population that, as a white and straight and cis man, I’m scared of the future. I fear what is coming, and that my nieces and nephews will suffer. I poured my heart out in a very rare display of vulnerability.And I will never forget what a trans user said, “I have nothing but empathy for your situation, but I must admit it feels really good to see you suffering too.”That’s when it clicked just how monstrous these are, how hollow the pride movement really is. You want to dominate us. You want to make us hurt and drink our pain. I’ve seen so many efforts to insist girly girls are trans icons, or that every story is a trans story, or again, how any story that focuses largely on cishet people is “a problem” because it’s actually throwing us a bone for a change. And none of this makes me mad - there’s anger, sure - but what I really feel is disgust. You hate us that much? Then fuck you, and don’t come to me if you need help.I guess I’m just not a good ally.
>>740306706>when you destroy free speech everywhere on the internet and the last bastion of it is an backwater imageboard called 4chan and you have to pay whores to come here, argue fruitlessly and still lose arguments And it's still doing tremendous damage to their bottom lines, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with sending these instructions. Think about it like this: they destroyed education and logical thinking in schools and universities to such a degree that they have to tell their shills how to argue with the basement dwellers, who, somehow escaped through the cracks of "modern education"' without getting their minds melted so they can still offhandedly formulate talking points while gaming with their cheeto dust fingers. You've been fighting storm troopers all this time. They're idiots who can't shoot. What a thrill. What a sadge.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHJga4t7bD4
