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Will Gaster and/or FRIEND show up next chapter
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considering the janny's sleep schedule, there is a decent chance he is brazilian
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Sorry OP, but this isn't a culture war agitprop or shill thread so it won't be allowed to stay up. We need more room for 40 identical "eastern women vs western women" threads.
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Beggars gonna beg
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your reaction when deltarune is nowhere to be seem in the direct?
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>>740434523
DON'T TURN OFF THE CHANNEL
I HAVE A INSIDE SOURCE THAT CHAPTER 5 IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED ANYDAY NOW
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>>740434289
This is about sending a message. I want the nigger janny to be paranoid. I want him to be glued to the screen 24/7 looking for potential deltarune threads
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>>740434708
technically it can be any day from july 1 to december 31
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>>740434846
Around august is the most likely since it needs to be translated + bugtested on all versions
It sucks but.. we must continue the wait.
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>>740434523
I will simply continue to WAIT as I done so before
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>>740434779
Make some Uma threads too for double paranoia
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>>740434936
I've been saying august to september for many weeks, and I got called a doomer for that lmao
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before the thread gets wiped i just want to say
chapter 5 is coming out on september 30th
source is i said so
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>>740435162
is he gonna stay silent on the 11 years of UT too?
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I wonder if this has anything to do with janny applications being open as well. Maybe he's just making himself look busy out of fear that he'll be replaced.
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>>740434779
Holy fucking based.
no sleep for the janjan
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>>740435247
Yes.
i have wiretaps in toby's office and this is all true information. he's in a bunker because he's afraid south americans are going to kill him over the translation fiasco. he knows the only thing that will appease them is a new deltarune chapter. this is FACTUAL.
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>>740435116
tbf I didn't anticipate for Toby and his team to somehow become even slower at churning out chapters. I mean, one would hope speed of development were to increase somewhat over the course of 5 years
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>>740435629
Its probably a small team (ignoring outside contracted help for translation and other shit). Wouldn't surprise me if his core team is less than 10 people overall if you exclude toby and temmie.
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>>740435629
It definitely has, it's just harder to tell because he's also become less communicative over the years. 3 was stuck in dev hell for years, but once he hired the producer, 4 was done within about a year. 5 has been about the same. But having to go through the pre-release hurdles every time they're finished with a chapter or two adds a lot of time. Thankfully, a lot of those things don't require the main team to be directly involved. Most of them have been working on chapter 6+ for months now.
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>>740435851
He had around 3 people aside from him and Temmie actively working on the game before Chapter 2 released. He hired more people from then, apparently they had to look through 1000 applicants for a new hire. After that, they hired a producer, changed producers, and hired more people.
The new producer apparently managed to fix the development hell and streamline everything so everyone is working to their best capacity.
We would've had the full game by now if Toby had gotten a producer back when development for Chapter 1 started.
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>>740435851
His team is bigger now and more experienced than it was during the ch2 days plus they have a producer now. Once they stopped wasting time on trying to switch engines and sat down to make ch2, they were able to complete and release it in little over a year. It is taking more and more time to put out new chapters despite the quality staying the same if not actually getting worse
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>>740436378
It's hilarious when people try to argue DELTARUNE did NOT have a development hell, because it very clearly did.
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>>740435959
>Most of them have been working on chapter 6+ for months now
Most of them are fixing bugs on all the different ports. Even if it were true, I doubt those bums put in more than 6 hours of work per week, they're still heavily depended on Toby pointers to get shit done so it might as well mean nothing
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since this thread is bound to get wiped soon anyway, i wanna say i've mostly lost the hype for deltarune, i haven't managed to muster up the energy to play chapters 3 and 4. i'm more interested in the story than any of the "gameplay" it has to offer, and even that's been dampened by these insane WAITs between releases.
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>>740433874
FRIEND will definitely show up. Field of Pink and Gold, cat-themed chapter to mirror Snowdin dogs, the cat drawings in Toby's bluesky. Gaster I'm not so sure. A teaser at best since 6 is his chapter.
>>740434779
Based as fuck. Keep fighting the good fight.
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>>740435247
I would GENUINELY be worried if he skipped an Undertale anniversary when he has never done so unlike Deltarune.
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>>740435629
It has been a faster team, but only after producer was hired. Before him everything was SLOW.
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>>740436746
That's bound to happen simply because of the sheer WAIT. It's surprising there's still so many autists like us still obsessed with it
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>>740436609
>>740437063
A lot of ch2's time was wasted on trying to switch engines. They really only sat down to make ch2 in May2020 and they were able to release it in September2021 with the translation coming out like a month later iirc
Ch5 has been in development since like October2024 and is on track to release withing the next couple of months (allegedly). Ch5 has taken about as much time as ch2 despite the bigger and better organized team
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>>740434523
Just keep WAITing while being worried about Toby because the silence will TRULY become weird if that happens.
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>>740435629
You know, back when Chapter 2 released I thought to myself "well, now they have the foundations of the game figured out this should be smooth sailing, just a matter of iterating on the code that already exists, right?" I remember even Toby thought so in a blogpost/newsletter. (laughs).

>>740435959
Chapter 5 has been worked on since 2024 while they WAITED for the game maker update. And it definitely had some preliminary work when the 3+4+5 bundle was defined in 2021.

>>740436609
The whole dev cycle has been a joke from the start. First was doing chapter 1 with the UT crew despite the fact he had resources to get a proper programmer after UT's success. Then he dicked around by looking for other engines for a year before going back to square one, then another 2 years for chapter 2. Then dicking around with Chapter 3's gimmicks that nobody asked for and struggling to get them to a half decent pacing.

MAYBE chapter 4 was the point things got on track, but I'm not trusting this since we don't know exactly what was the dev cycle for it and chapter 5 seems to be struggling for no reason right now.
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>>740433874
the hidden image still sucks
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>>740436950
>>740437468
It's a puzzling because he was very vocal about issues with shit like the game maker update. What's going on now?
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>>740437259
Scopecreep could be the reason the chapters are taking so long. Toby keeps adding more and more shit to them.
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>>740437631
The only explanation is that the translation drama affected him and maybe something happened internally that really fucked him up. No matter what I will only get worried when it's the 9th with no news.
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>>740436662
>Most of them are fixing bugs on all the different ports.
This is from over 6 months ago. Reminder that doomfags don't know the first thing they're talking about.
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>>740437635
Well I hope this time around the extra effort was spent on improving the battle system and regular enemies and not implementing a bubble trouble minigame
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>>740438071
This means Chapter 6 will only be ready in 2028 unless it's a super short chapter.
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>>740438175
Sadly, I doubt that. I think Toby is probably adding more minigames ans gimmicks. This is stuff he's genuinely passionate about.
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>>740438175
Lol
Lmao
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>>740437635
That's what the producer was hired to handle, and that's what he did. An entire board got cut from chapter 3.
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>>740438415
True, Chapter 3 was only actually finished thanks to him. But maybe Toby is still trying to make chapters more complicated compared to 2
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>>740438071
Yeah but like I said, they probably do fuck all work on their own because Toby is a giga pussy that doesn't want to upset people. I might lightheartedly clown on him for being a turbo weeb but I will not let this horrendous devtime slide
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>>740438359
>This is stuff he's genuinely passionate about.
I doubt it, Toby is supposedly passionate about things like bullet hells and turn-based JRPGs. The constant minigames in lieu of expanding these parts of the game are a compromise on what should be Deltarune's truest vision.
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>>740436609
I think everyone stopped arguing that after Chapter 3. There was no way to keep denying it.
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>>740438175
NOOOO SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD
THE BUBBLE TROUBLE MINIGAME IS A GENIUS META COMMENTARY ON THE UNDERTALE FANDOM AND IF YOU DON'T GET IT YOU'RE JUST AN ILLITERATE FAGGOT THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEMES
I BET YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE FAGGOTS WHO THOUGHT GASTER WAS GOING TO BE A REAL CHARACTER INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE REAL STORY ELEMENTS LIKE HOW SAD SUSIE'S LIFE IS AND HOW ESCAPISM IS BAD
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>>740434523
I will make a Bluesky account and call Toby a nigger.
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>>740438629
That SHOULD be true but everytime he mentions his plans for the game he always mentions minigames or gimmicks or anything super advanced. He clearly wants Deltarune to be like a big budget Nintendo game that has several gameplay styles on it.
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>>740438359
Didn't he grow up on bullet hell games? Did he suddenly get a bout of nostalgia for flashgames? wtf no one pick up undertale to slog through Metaton's pacing halting minigames, this shit is by far the worst part of these games
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>>740438415
>let's make the chapter that was already very lean in actual content have even less content
truly a genius move there

thought I suspect producer-sama had a role in not letting chapter 4 be a fucking maze and not having the bullshit train puzzle in the noelle segment
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I'm starting to think Chapter 5 is gonna suck HARD.
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>>740439063
He grew up on Nintendo games which do have a lot of minigames on it above all. People compared UT/DR to Mario and Luigi but those games are filled with several minigames, for example
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What is Susie like in bed
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>>740437259
"In development" is a hugely loaded term with this game because any number of devs could be working on any part of any given chapter at any time. Toby started putting people on bullet patterns for chapter 5 since as far back as summer 2023. That's technically "in development" but it's not nearly the same level of development as when they're trying to get the game ready for translation and testing.
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>>740438629
>>740439063
I think it's a matter of
>Toby wants his games to be accessible so he tones down the difficulty everywhere and puts minigames because he is afraid the average player will get bored with the jrpg gameplay
>Toby has to make everything quirky twerky, so this is why deltarune has a hundred one-off gimmicks and why undertale has an unfinished hardmode because OF COURSE he had to fill it with unique enemies and quirky snail pie bullshit instead of just making the normal enemies give more damage or the bullets faster
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>>740439530
Maybe the gameplay just isn't for you, chud
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>>740439487
Full delevopment for Chapter 5 started on September, so that's when Toby actually did things for it like the team is doing for 6
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>>740439487
When I said since October2024 I meant that's when most of the team switched to working on it, a little bit of work has been done to it before that, just like some work has been done to ch2 while trying to switch engines. Both chapters have a similar timeline development wise despite the 3 year difference in team size and experience
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>>740439270
We've already seen how she would be, she snores obnoxiously af.
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>>740439236
Hell yeah man. I can't see any realistic chance of it being good given the direction the game took.
>a full repeat of chapter 4
The Knight shows up again, the dark world is mostly devoid of new characters, more gimmicks in place of enemies and bosses, we see the main characters get emotional again, more lore drops that don't really advance the mystery boxes, another light world segment centered on teen relationship drama.
>a roaring endgame chapter
Yet another complete change in tone and direction, and also making 6 and 7 an overextended final stretch that will get old very fast once it comes out.

Besides, there is no way we're getting a good follow up on things like Asgore.
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If we don't get anything this next Direct then I think this whole translation controversy has affected even more than I previously thought. Assuming no info on the Direct, I think he's afraid of posting anything since he might get backlash like before, and he intends on doing a shadow drop since that's the only thing he can post that guarantees a positive response.
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Has deltarune ever been announced at a direct? or is this one of those things people just hype themselves on
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>>740436346
People underestimate how useful producer-kun is. He's the one who saved Chapter 3 from devhell and gave the concept of deadlines for Toby. 5 would be in an even worser state if we didn't have him. He's also a huge tendie like Toby
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>>740433874
>Gaster
No.
>FRIEND
Probably. Maybe.
If FRIEND shows up, we will also see FRIEND's owner: Chara!
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>>740440647
3+4 were announced April last year on the direct
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>>740440647
You are retarded.
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>>740440647
Literally 3 and 4 last year.
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>>740440452
>I think this whole translation controversy has affected even more than I previously thought
Yeah man. I'm sure they're all quaking in their boots. Just too petrified to work on the game. Get a fucking grip retard.
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>>740440836
Can you fucking read
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>>740440759
Chara being a catgirl is hotter and funnier than Chara being FRIEND'S owner, even if realistic their only connections is being demons
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>>740440836
Yeah man I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that Toby ceased all activity on his accounts right after posting the response.
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>>740440836
That anon said Toby is afraid of a reaction but is still working on the game as normal
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>>740440452
I pointed this out various times in the last few weeks and I got called a schizo for this.

He has been accumulating a lot of controversies in the recent years with Materia, Omocat, OFF and now the translation bullshit which was the first time he failed to defuse the anger. This is after 10 years of him being called nothing but a genius for UT.

I feel the overall vibe of the fandom has gone to shit as well. Shayy is canceled (I hate him as much as you all, but he was liked elsewhere), no huge meme theories like Woody, no Spamton tier meme to distract people, no constant teasers. And this is just a single year after the last release, who knows how hellish the next 3+ years WAIT will be.
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Guys, why hasn't Toby said anything in a while? If only he had made some kind of announcement that he wasn't going to be giving development updates for some time. This must be related to some retarded internet drama. People were mean to him on the internet for a few days and now he's too sad to talk anymore. That's the only explanation.
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>>740441143
Toby literally made a teaser/shitpost about chairs right after this post.
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>>740441215
>Noelle will sit in the chair
Woah...
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>>740441143
>same retarded argument
Yeah, sure staying completely silent about merch drops, anniversaries, colabs, or the shitposting he used to do is the same as simply not giving teasers.
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Toby hasn't posted because he's still recovering from a botched monolid surgery he got a few months ago. The team has talked about this at length. Please be patient.
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>>740441215
That retard forgets even during the previous periods of silence about Deltarune proper he still posted about other subjects frequently.
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>>740441278
That chair? FRIEND.
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>>740441215
>>740441295
>>740441374
No, I think my argument that Toby is choosing to stay silent because there's nothing to talk about yet makes a lot more sense than your argument that a nearly 40 year old man was scared off the internet by a bunch of mexicans.
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I think the absolute funniest Direct announcement would be this
>dog gets on screen
>says Chapter 5 will be released soon but doesn't provide an actual release date
>at the end also says Spanish and Portuguese translations for Undertale are being worked on and will be released soon
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Can't believe to this day we still have people that deny the controversy had absolutely no effect on Toby.
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>>740441521
>nothing to talk about
Oh sure, a new vinyl release, the first anniversary of the latest release, projects from his friends, there is nothing to be talked about.
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>>740441418
Noelle will sit on Dogeny Deltarune?
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>>740441521
You have to remember, anon, the latinx are extremely full of themselves. They really do believe they 'owned' the dog by throwing that shit fit.
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The WAIT will not pay off. Remember Duke Nukem, Kingdom Hearts, Samurai Jack, Chainsaw Man, etc. You'll get some shitty yuri and the power and friendship and it won't even be schizophrenic at all.
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>>740441563
You know, that faggot should work in the korean translation since the demo had one
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>>740441676
They kinda do. He's still hiding lmao.
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>>740441673
Forget it anon, that dude lives in his own world, trying to reason with him is pointless.
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>>740441657
Can't believe to this day we still have people that pretend the controversy is the reason he isn't giving development updates. Go take your dramafagging to reddit.
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>>740441732
The dog can come out of hiding whenever he wants but the latinx will never escape being ugly monkey people.
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>>740441709
The worst thing is gonna be when Suselle gets confirmed. If it happens in Chapter 5 then it's either gonna be non-stop shitposting until Chapter 7, or the threads just straight up die.
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>>740441709
Sometimes it does pay off. That said...

>You'll get some shitty yuri and the power and friendship
That would be decent enough in the grand scheme of things, it's just the same as the pacifist ending. We're probably getting an entire fart sniffing sequence about how we're bad for playing the game instead.
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>>740441865
>Suselle gets confirmed
Deltarune Purple will save us.
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>>740441865
Oh, it's gonna be fun to dunk on the anons that spent 5 years denying the obvious.
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>>740441895
>We're probably getting an entire fart sniffing sequence about how we're bad for playing the game instead.
I doubt this will happen in the normal route, but it's happening for sure on the weird route.
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>>740441865
The one good thing that could come out of it is that I wouldn't have to ever again read anons talking about how Toby is actually le ebin based 4channer, it would put that to rest for good.
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>>740441865
it WILL be subverted for ralsusie in the true route. watch.
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>>740442072
It's a single ending, anon. Weird route will simply mock you ever harder.

>>740442187
I have no damn clue how that perception even got a hold here.
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>>740441521
There is stuff to talk about. The silence is unusual and you need to look back and think about it unbiasedly.
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>>740442320
dominant_femboy
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Kris? A cactus.
Susie? A watercooler.
Don't flirt with the watercooler.
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>>740441865
I wouldn't mind it because HMOFAtards have become insufferable. I don't even know if they like Susie or Noelle.
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>>740442384
>we're never getting a look of how the cactus looks in the dark world
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>>740442434
we do tho
its the cactus you push aside in the first board.
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>>740441709
I have FAITH in the WAIT. As long as you don't have unreasonable expectations it will be alright and fun.
>>740441895
Toby doesn't think you're a bad person for playing the game, he has matured from the days of the Halloween Hack. Have faith.
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>>740442489
>le legend of tenna
die
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>>740442574
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>>740442587
why would it look different
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>>740442325
Toby never says anything about his personal opinions so people on both sides project onto him, that's how.
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>>740442664
ralsei
plus I want an actual sprite
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>>740442652
Toby won't say anything bad if you're a pacifist, yes.
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>>740442682
>the blogpost about the halloween hack
>the blm thing (and I'm not just talking about the tweet, there is an interview he talks about how affected he was about that whole thing)
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>>740442745
>maybe [player.name] wasn't the best person
it's hard to overlook because chara got burned into everyone's minds
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>>740433874
Why the fuck does deltarune have a worse development time than every single solo 3d indie game?
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>>740442926
Toby is a bad videogame developer and an even worse project lead.
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>deltarune threads are only allowed to stay up if they're full of doomfags and xitter tourists
awesome
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>>740434523
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>>740443018
I'm not a doomfag. I'm just saying releasing an RPG in batches is a fucking terrible idea. That's why I hate the ff7 remakes besides the other glaring flaws it has.
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>>740443018
Gotta generate that engagement! Hiro is so weak and poor, he NEEDS 4chan to be this way.
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>>740442926
>made by an artist, not a programmer
>auteur masterpiece, by an author that was already very pretentious
>barely any experience besides making music for other people, rom hacks and the literal first original game that happened to blow up in popularity
>perfectionist about certain details
>obsessed with one-off gimmicks
>constant colabs with other projects
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>>740442847
Toby himself went to defend that line as Asriel coping and that he still cared for her. Plus in the credits Toby literally thanks you the player directly.
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>>740443018
Janny is too busy with the current sticky to delete this thread.
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>>740443165
>attempting to provide an alternate interpretation that has no reasonable precedent within the game's text, 10 years after the fact, through a stream that most people will never watch
gooseworx tier storytelling
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>>740434779
Too based.
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>>740443018
so what? you want us to be optimistic with how things are going?
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>>740443113
Nice try retard, it's not about engagement it's about a pathetic attempt to control narratives which has failed to work for a year.
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>>740442320
The only ship with multiple unskippable cutscenes btw
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>>740443298
Well that's also not at all what Toby said.
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>>740443420
so you're telling me janny has a secret agenda about manipulating the opinion of the game against itself?

I think you're giving to much credit to the hot pocket eater lmao
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>>740443420
Your response? It generated engagement.
This post? Will generate engagement.
Our engagement? Broken off because you're brown and a whore. I will never love again.
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>>740443560
I never said the agenda was secret.
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>>740443298
Even in game it's implied Asriel didn't hate Chara, Monster Kid said the same shit about Undyne and nobody thought she was evil.
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>>740443764
who cares faggot
the janny doesn't need to do anything because, short of suselle getting obliterated out of nowhere, this board is destined to hate the game no matter what by now
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>>740443885
Monster Kid and Undyne are not a comparable scenario how many times do I have to tell you this, Undyne never gaslit Monster Kid into a suicide pact to kill people.
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>>740443943
Getting angry won't save you.
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>>740444063
save from what?
I already wasted these 7 years thinking the game was at least going to be 50% good
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Newsletters are just a thing for kiddo faves.
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>>740444010
Undyne wanted to genocide humanity as much as Chara did. There's a reason that even before the stream people realized Chara wasn't pure evil. Toby doesn't do one dimensional characters.
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>>740444252
titan
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>>740444252
Undyne was a silly goober who thought anime was real and was convinced otherwise. Undyne doesn't have the same hatred as Chara and never had. You're also ignoring the gaslighting Asriel part, as usual.
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>>740442772
People just ignore it or create cope for it. Or focus on Andonuts saying faggot or the him "hating" spics. The fact Toby isn't blatantly outspoken allows people to create a Toby in their heads.
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>>740444302
nta but agent of chaos not a conscious being
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>>740444453
WOW
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR A CHAPTER BOSS CHARACTER
AFTER A WHOLE CHAPTER WITH ALMOST NO NEW CHARACTERS
AFTER WAITING 3 YEARS FOR THAT MOMENT
THAT SHIT HAS LESS BULLET PATTERNS THAN KING
really dunked on those john bishop autists huh?
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>>740444404
I didn't focus on the gaslighting part because that is indeed a messed up thing Chara did (even if Chara was around the same age as Asriel and never forced him to do anything, which is something he admits). My point is that Toby never intended Chara to be pure evil, just messed up. That's why the line is that Chara isn't the greatest, not that Chara actually fucking sucked bad. The point was always Asriel finally stopped worshipping her and acknowledged her flaws. The Undyne example with Monster Kid is another monster doing the same, acknowledging the flaws of their idol and thinking someone else was better. That's why I mentioned it.
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>>740441709
Deer is annoying as hell, so I hope not.
Is chapter 4 better than 3? I’m just not feeling it so far.
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>>740444302
Titan isn't really a character at all but just a force of nature like a tornado.
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>>740444878
There's more deer in it but a lot of people prefer 4 if they like more serious stories.
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>>740444848
We're not talking about intentions, were talking about what the game communicates.
Toby may have intended for Toriel to not be perfect, but he completely failed in doing that for most people.
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>>740444848
Then he failed to convince me to have any compassion for Chara, and Asriel's acknowledgement is a massive euphemism to what Chara really did, so much so I cannot help but feel like he's got stockholm syndrome. It's unnerving and uncomfortable and not a cute relationship which is why I don't like what Toby Fox wrote.
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>>740444924
see >>740444763
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>>740444990
That's a different argument honestly, and Toby falling to communicate is mainly because he keeps the humans vague. He left it up to you make your own reason for why Chara hated humanity and why she did what she did. Some people just didn't want to imagine anything and thus say her as one-dimensional.
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>>740445065
That's fine. You don't have to feel that way. Toby gives you an option to not forgive Asriel, I don't think he minds people not having compassion for Chara.
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>>740444989
Onward through Gameshow Hell, then. I don’t outright hate Noelle like I did Alphys in Undertale, but she and Susie become incredibly uninteresting in close proximity.
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>>740445263
But he made it so I have to save Chara without a say in that, which I don't agree with.
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>>740445264
that's everyone's opinion here for the last 5 years
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>2026 and the fandom still can't handle any character that's "problematic"
Chara arguments are also why the fandom is so resistant to Kris not being completely wholesome btw
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>>740441675
Yes.
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>>740445341
>implying /v/ deltachads care about what deltafags outside of here say
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>>740445330
Oh. I only recently started playing, so I’ve avoided thread up until now.
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>>740445374
why not at this point
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>>740445065
>It's unnerving and uncomfortable and not a cute relationship which is why I don't like what Toby Fox wrote.
Almost like it was pretty blatantly written that way and that's the obvious intended meaning.
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>>740445434
Welcome to UT/DR /v/!
Where we spend 7 years discussing the same topics over and over again expecting someone will answer something different eventually.
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>>740445264
Chapter 4 has another Suselle scene so you might not like it. Only 1 and 3 are Suselle free.
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>>740445576
>1
>suselle free
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>>740445442
when the FUCK is toby adding her into deltarune?
>uhh.. but it's a backer charac-
i don't give a SHIT, toby OWES me her.
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>>740445524
Then why is he trying to convince me it's a nice thing? I have to save Chara, his "little chocolat" and I don't have a say in it. Cherishing a bad relationship isn't what I expect in a perfect True Pacifist ending where everything is nice.
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>>740445716
At this point there is a real chance he will do something LITERALLY gay if she shows up in the game
It hurts but it might be for the best if she stays out of this
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>>740441865
But i'm fine here THO
>>740445264
>>740445434
If you find her annoying you will have to take the weird route pill, she acts different and scenes that you may not like in nm gets skipped
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What annoying mini game will be in chapter 5? Any ideas? I think a swinging mechanic like donkey Kong or the dancing minigame in mother 3 with the monkey
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>>740433874
hot embed
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>>740445310
I mean, you don't have to. You can just not do the pacifist route, and even if you do you can technically ignore what Toby says since it's not in the game.
>>740445738
Chasriel is unnerving but also cute. Toby likes playing on both sides as a true shipper, both wholesome and filled with angst.
>>740445341
People can't handle morally gray characters, that's all. Mostly in autistic fandoms, too
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>>740445738
because he likes characters with flaws per his own admission
it's supposed to be nuanced and complicated, not autismo black-and-white shit
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>>740441675
There is a joke about women and dogs somewhere.
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>>740445926
More Zelda since Asgore has a TV and it'll foreshadow the weird route further
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>>740445621
The only obligatory Suselle is Noelle wanting to go with Susie. You can skip the rest.
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>>740446026
I'm going to ignore what he said in the stream and keep my interpretation from when I first played: that Chara is gone forever and Asriel remorses their relationship.
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>>740446034
Toby is a Tumblrfag, he loves toxic and angst pairings.
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>>740446207
That's fine. Personally I like Chara being saved and being a quirky narrator but it is up to interpretation for a reason.
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>>740445926
>swinging mechanic like donkey Kong
that's too on-topic with the chapter's theme
you gotta think of shit COMPLETELY unrelated to gardening to be tobycore:
>platforming
>racing
>1 vs 1 fighting
>sky diving simulator
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>>740445738
He isn't. That other retard is just a retard.
Under the very generous assumption that you aren't him pretending to be convinced by a livestream everyone else hasn't been obsessing over for a year straight.
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>>740434082
>south-of-the-borders ruining Deltarune AGAIN
when will they be annexed
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>>740446346
>annexed
you want us to be WITHIN your borders?
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>>740445374
>>740445442
fuk you guys i never found the new extension
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>>740434523
That's okay!
Toby have said chapter 5 will come out in 2026!
We still got the rest of the year to WAIT

>>740441709
>You'll get some shitty yuri
Surely Toby is aware how awkward the dialogue between Noelle and Susie is?
I mean just compare the interactions between Kris and Noelle. The difference is night and day
At this point, I will take the copout ending where Susie gets no one at the end
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>>740445926
Watering minigame where you got to make flowers bloom to progress forward.
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what are you guy's thoughts on Deltarune Yellow?
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>>740446631
played the first chapter like a year ago, felt it was bland
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>>740436346
>We would've had the full game by now if Toby had gotten a producer back when development for Chapter 1 started.
Damn. Imagine Tenna in 2021.
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>>740446631
haven't played it yet
need to play reply UTY first
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>>740446697
No dude. Imagine the full game came out last year, the end of the 7 year period. No episodic schedule giving everyone the wrong expectations.
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>>740445374
>Hidden
>>740445442
This thread has been mostly on topic, let's not drown it with hornyposting yet.
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>>740445926
Stardew Valley-lite
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>>740438175
>improving the battle system
best case is we wont have to deal with the stupid TP restriction gimmick for half of chapter 5.
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>>740446631
Didn't play it but heard about it. Feels like Deltarune made by shipfags, with none of the things that make Deltarune interesting. Respect the undertaking, though. It's impressive he made two chapters in so little time.
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>>740446518
>aware
Nope, but i do think anons are dooming too much not only because of weird route, but also it's a sort of unique triangle, and also that it won't be the entire ch5 lmao, we need Asgore truck flashback
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>>740446518
>Surely Toby is aware how awkward the dialogue between Noelle and Susie is?
No, remember Toby is a yurifag
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>>740438629
Deltarune could be done by now if it was a straighforward turn based RPGMaker game or a straightforward Bullet hell game but it's neither, he wants to keep figuring out how to add more months of dev time to make a pointless quirky minigame because he's known to be the quirky dev guy who makes subversive things.
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>>740446929
>more deep darkness mechanics
You know, my expectations for a flower shop dark world during the ch 2 days are completely different from my post ch 4 ones.

Do you bet on a pleasant flower paradise, or something more gritty and fucked up?
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>>740446568
so basically Zen Garden from Plants vs Zombies?
seems fitting since Laura is with the team
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>>740446631
kind of mediocre even ignoring the reused assets but considering how it was just 1 dude vs. Toby "I'm Taking Too Long" Fox I respect the hustle
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>>740446631
desperately needs more humor and general polishing across the board.
but aside from that... its decent. at least its not skeleton fangame tier nonsense.
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>>740445543
Thanks! Looking at the release timeline, I’m surprised that there are still sane anons from all of the downtime between releases.

>>740445576
If it’s just a scene I suppose it won’t be that bad. It’s just funny that the writing becomes so stagnant whenever they interact.

>>740445880
I’ll have to try that on my next run. I’ve been doing a pacifist run so far since it seemed to be more interesting than a simple combat one. I want aware of the weird route, although I did hear something about eggs which I’ve completely missed. I did complete the two hidden bosses that were encounterable so far.
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>will gaster appear?
He's not just going to appear. We're finally going to get our Gaster fight, completely out of left field, and the last two chapters are going to be grappling with its consequences.
https://soundcloud.com/screamawake/the-man-who-got-hands
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>>740447096
>generic cumslut
lame!
I like my femboys to be classy
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>>740447183
It's not really a scene, it's more like an entire section in Noelle’s house.
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>>740446518
>Surely Toby is aware how awkward the dialogue between Noelle and Susie is?
He must be. I still think Toby is using Suselle to troll people.
Suselletroons are so retarded and blind they don't even see the problem with how Noelle and Susie act like caricatures of their characters with one another. And this is even more apparent because Susie and Noelle literally had NOTHING to talk about but Kris. It's like who they REALLY like is Kris.
Remember, it only took a day of Kris acting like himself again and comforting her from the Weird Route for her to be completely in love with Kris.
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>>740447097
probably a mix of both.
the area immediately around the fountain being the flower paradise but the further from it you go the darker it all becomes.
the plot will be that you pretty much land directly at the fountain, but for whatever reason you cant actually get to it without grabbing a mcguffin from the darker regions.
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>>740446125
>More Zelda
Holy fuck please no
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>>740447085
Deltarune could also be done by now if it was a straight forward Undertale follow up at least in the gameplay sense.
He could have just replicated Chapter 1 a few times and kept the scope in check, people would have been happy with that.
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Chapter 5 will be AN END of sorts. Apocalyptic. Think Evangelion 2.0. Chapters 6 and 7 will tell a meta-rich story about Kris finally overcoming his problems and setting things right.
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>>740445014
kris if used the escape rope in the cheater's jail
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>>740447183
Oh boy you might fucking hate her lmao, but again it does give you more context for wr and honestly it made me like her
>>740447607
It could end with the roaring but that would leave to what the fuck ch7 could be if 6 is going to be about that, post apocalypse?
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>>740447401
>Remember, it only took a day
not even a day, it was a 20 minute comfort session and that made noelle willing to completely sideline susie
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>>740447607
Chapter 5 will end in the Roaring and everyone taking shelter at the shelter.
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>>740446671
>>740446986
>>740447149
>>740447175
Thanks for your thoughts, the boards were we discuss this game defend it with their life
You should also try Naranja, it has a demo with interesting mechanics
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>>740447175
TBF UTY didn't have many much humor and focused more on story
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>>740447401
i agree with you on everything except how she switched up pretty fast from Kris to (you) after (you) give her back the commerative ring
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>>740447763
thats just the fanboy problem, anon. we still have plenty of people willing to criticize DRY in the threads. its just that when you do the fanboys instantly swarm to defend the HMOFA game.
>>740447863
at least UTY tried and hit it off with the steamworks. DRYanon just says "yeah im not that good of a writer" and gives up completely.
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>>740447715
>>740447956
doeslut hivemind
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>>740447401
>>740447715
With the direct comparison between Suselle and Alphdyne I think you guys are putting too much stock into Toby as a writer. The man's a musician, but the rest..?
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>>740447715
you [saucy sponge] you took my [sweet hooci mama] post. good on you
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>>740447607
WRONG. Ch5 will end on a relatively somber note with no world ending events occurring throughout
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>>740447763
>Thanks for your thoughts, the boards were we discuss this game defend it with their life
Sometimes you can fall TOO much into love with an idea. Then you can never let it get past the drawing board or give it an honest look
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>>740447763
The /vrpg/ general is a big circlejerk of the same 10 people, somehow more than here. That's probably why you see the same opinions.
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>>740448040
Damn. Really?
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>>740447607
CONGRATULATIONS
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>>740448040
/v/3 should keep them occupied.. right?
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>>740448192
I am legitimately expecting this.
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>>740448018
You're underestimating Toby, you need a lot of artistic skill to make metanarrative not be fucking boring and corny
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>>740448112
Incorrect
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>>740448040
huh how do you know
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>>740448304
Holy shit?
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>>740448336
>>740446731 got stickied
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>>740448268
Noelle wouldn't say that.
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>>740447976
>DRYanon just says "yeah im not that good of a writer" and gives up completely.
Honestly better than trying too hard and not landing anything.
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>>740448112
I can't see Toby stalling for that long, man. The Roaring needs to happen eventually and everything points to 5 being the end of the common narrative. I can't see the ocean of ink only happening in Chapter 6. Plus that's just 4 again.
>>740448040
Surprised thread lasted for so long, honestly.
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>>740448268
>you need a lot of artistic skill to make metanarrative not be fucking boring and corny
If you don't see the ending of the genocide route as corny creepypasta bullshit you are 15 years old
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>>740448304
What does this mean?
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>>740447763
>the boards were we discuss this game defend it with their life
I'm the first mention, and also a /vrpg/ anon too. We saw so many things die out before coming to completion we're happy someone is pushing through, me included. It's specially tougher when it's unlikely something like it would ever show up elsewhere, I have hope DRY can become better.
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>>740447401
You are giving him too much credit but he also does it so people notice the difference in routes
>>740448018
I like how he is writing Kris and Noelle even outside of wr
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>>740448418
the ending of the genocide route is incredible and no amount of "akshually this is for flippin 12 year olds" will convince me otherwise
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>>740434779
holy based
total janny death
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>>740448172
I don't see the problem with niches trying to survive.
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>>740448268
I mean the genocide route is a *little* corny but that might be on the fandom misappropriating Chara as the creepypasta devil and ALLLLLL of the skeletonwank that ensued from Sans's bossfight. I just have doubt that Toby "Not Enough Gays in VideoGaymes" would throw a very clearly telegraphed lesbian relationship under the bus for drama. If he does though, and I turn out to be wrong about this, I will kneel forever to the dog and the ever after that.
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>>740448587
I didn't say there was anything wrong, it is a niche. I'm just describing the consequences of a niche place.
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Kris sleeping in bed with Noelle.
Or Asgore, if you're into that.
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I CAN DO ANYTHING!
I CAN EVEN hope
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>>740448379
Would rather no humor than Reddit """humor""", yeah.
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>>740448268
The metanarrative is only fun when it's played for laughs or for horror, like Omega Flowey. Shit like Flowey's genocide monologue is only glazed by video essay types.

What made Toby successful was the comedic set pieces and the hype moments, without that Undertale would have got a LISA tier following at best.
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>>740448418
The ending of genocide is based and there's a reason Toby loves Chara. The only problem is some of the vagueness of the dialogue.
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>>740447763
>You should also try Naranja, it has a demo with interesting mechanics
already played it
while it was buggy, it was pretty neat, and the combo system fit very well with the orange soul. don't know if the game got a new version with a non-placeholder music

>>740448734
What exactly is "Reddit humor"? Is it basically MCU writing?
I'm working on a project and I do want to have some humor, but I don't know how to avoid that kind of humor
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>>740448793
I like Flowey's genocide monologue as a character study for him and how it shows his relationship with Chara, beyond the meta part.
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When is Deltarune getting a GOG release?
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>>740448617
Anon, that's kinda what's happening, Noelle invited Kris instead of Susie for the festival
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>>740448371
He's probably too busy to nuke our thread.



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