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Will the Switch 2 save Wilds?
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The hype for Ascendance and Wilds SW2 is INSANE! I think Capcom is easily going to get 15 million sales on day one.
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>>740836869
It would be funny if it broke 1 million sales at launch when the ps5 version couldn't.
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I mean, probably, the PS5 is getting abandoned pretty much globally in favor of Switch 2 because shit just does not seem to sell on the funny white console.
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>>740836691
no that's a you problem for Capcom for rushing it for the share holders fuck yourself.
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Wilds, and World, are anti-monhun games.
If you like either of them you're a tourist and part of the problem.
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>>740837127
>Wilds, and World,
Same director who keeps going on about "modern" Monster Hunter too btw
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>>740836941
>It would be funny if it broke 1 million sales at launch when the ps5 version couldn't.
anon wilds sold like 8 million copies in 3 days
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>>740836691
>MH Portable is officially dead
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>>740836691
No but this proves that Capcom is desperate. Only insanity caused by desperation would drove them to port a game that doesn't work well on even the PS5 pro to a "weaker" console.
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>>740838403
Anon is specifically talking of retails sales on ps5 on Japan, most of the sales where on Steam and only out of the hype from world anyway.
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>>740836691
I hope not
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>>740838403
>anon wilds sold like 8 million copies in 3 days
8 million in three days, 10 million in one month and 11 million in one year, notice the CATASTROPHIC drop?
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>>740838441
portable consoles aren't really a thing anymore, it just doesn't make sense logistically
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>>740836691
I just want another no-gimmick portable game, and i want it on PC day one. that's all i ask
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>>740838539
>most of the sales where on Steam and only out of the hype from world anyway.
No, the split is almost even (PC slightly lower than 50%) and we know nobody's buying games on xbox
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>>740838784
The switch was the only portable console around when rise released. now the Switch 2 is the only portable console around. nothings changed
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>>740838441
bro, your monster hunter now? :^)
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>>740838772
yes because it's a garbage game, and tendies are aware of that. It won't move much with switch 2, especially since the game is guaranteed to look and run like shit
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>>740838830
Congratulations, you just made PS5 look much worse. No wonder Capcom is so pissed off with Sony and has completely "betrayed" them by making sure any new game they do from now comes on everything day one, Nintendo included.
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>>740838915
And yes, I know Wilds being a piece of shit is Capcom's fault but they are in denial and blame Sony.
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I swear Capcom is doomed to have a decent run of games, become complacent for 5-10 years, then remember people want good games.
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>>740836941
everyone is used to switch games running like shit. so theres no reason to not buy it for switch
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I'm letting the modding scene cook + waiting for a sale. MH:W was awesome.
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>>740838441
I don't think Wilds getting a port actually means anything vis-a-vis a side game
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>>740839028
This goes beyond performance, Wilds is a bad game, is ugly, shoves a shitty story into your throat, it has annoying characters and the core gameplay is fucked up.
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>>740836996
Years of bad branding is starting to catch up. PlayStation image is inverted to how it used to be.
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>>740839095
You're just too old appreciate it. Wilds is Monster Hunter for the new generation. You should go play something else.
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>>740838474
They decided to bring back Nata for the expansion. Clearly they arent that desparate
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>>740839223
The expansion was already mostly done when Wolds came out, it was too late to change it so at best they basically hide him in the trailer and gave him no lines, to the point most of the people didn't even realize he was there.
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>>740838441
Why do people think this means there's not gonna be a Rise sequel? The Switch 2 is powerful enough that it'll get both Wilds and Rise 2, that's all.
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>>740839450
Because is illogical to make a MH tailored for Switch 2 if you can bring the (super shitty) mainline into it.
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>>740836691
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>>740836691
Of course, Japan has abandoned consoles and the youth are growing up on handhelds and phones and we're at a point where if you really care you can just plug them into a large monitor
Enthusiasts are moving to PC because it runs better but also there's more you can do and customize
Consoles like cable are a bygone era trying to stay relevant in the era of instant access in-hand entertainment
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>>740838403
And then people realized the janky ass mess they got for the price. The chance of a repeat performance is slim to none, especially since the dumb motherfuckers in charge of dredging up hype decided the memberberry monsters they’d pull out would be Kush who is objectively the least fun of the trio, and Lao who was a boring slog of a hunt.
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>>740838441
I'd be pissed if this was the case.
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>>740839095
okay, but it is a kind of genre Nintendo is lacking right now. literally better than nothing
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>>740838867
Monster Hunter Outlanders unironically looks better.
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>>740839450
>Rise 2
It's dead son.
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>>740837127
You can call me a tourist all you want. I love playing both. PSP is too slow. Wii is wonky shit.
Rise is also great.
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>9 months old article
seething tendies
you will never play world
and you will never be a woman
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>>740841638
I wont?
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don't let them gaslight you. wilds was a catastrophic failure.
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>>740842775
oy gevalt eleven million sales! vhat a travesty!
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>>740842808
monster hunter world and rise continued to sell since release. wilds sales cratered in under a year. wilds was also very expensive, and was fully expected by shareholders to beat out world. it barely beat out dlc for a portable game.
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>>740842895
are you a capcom shareholder

if you're not, none of this means anything
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>>740843071
>if you're not, none of this means anything
it means a lot when shareholders can go
>monster hunter has failed, kill it
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>>740843138
this implies capcom shareholders have control over which of its IPs are prominent, which they do not, else mega man would have been killed 25 years ago instead of going into periodic hibernation
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>>740843165
no, it implies that their entire source of money decides what they do.
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>>740843071
>autistic loser faggot being weird because he's too ashamed to just straight up defend his shit game
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>>740843196
shareholders are not capcom's main source of profit and do not have any appreciable pull over capcom's business and operations, hope this helps
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>>740843196
Not even close.
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>>740838772
The overwhelming majority of AAA games make ~85-90% of their lifetime sales in the first week. That's why they make such a big deal about preorders and DRM only really needs to work for the first week or so.
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>>740843274
>dude just generate profit with no funding lmao
this is why you rent.
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>>740838441
It won't be missed.
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wilds is currently on sale on steam
is it worth getting?
I liked worlds quite a lot and I'd even have a friend to play with
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>>740844145
Wilds is literally World 2 with more improvements. If you liked World, you'll like Wilds.
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Nah. I have a nogames 5 and in no way would I buy animal acoster even if was free. I alreayd have on vita but shouldn't have.
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>>740844145
You can't run it. Doesn't matter how beastly your rig is, it runs like ass on every hardware configuration
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>>740844145
Wait for G rank.
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>>740844145
I'm not going to lie and say you can't have fun with it, but the experience is going to be disjointed. The base game will be full of the stuff everyone complains about and it will feel like you could sleepwalk through the game. Then you will get to the first title update and there will be a noticeable spike in difficulty. Each TU is it's own difficulty spike because Capcom overcorrected due to all the people complaining about how easy the base game was. New monsters and quest difficulties have noticeably bloated health, damage, chip damage, and higher topple and status thresholds. The game feels like it's in G rank already and I'm morbidly curious how far they're going to push it in Ascendance.
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>>740837127
And Rise
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>game lags unless you have all 200 dlc trinkets valued at $300
>"Why is Sony not doing more?"
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>>740836691
If they can somehow get it to run fine on Switch 2 I might get it there since my PC's an old 2017 toaster that couldn't even start the performance demo
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>>740838441
Portable MH will go nowhere.
It's basically a testing ground for new ideas.
Wilds takes a bunch of shit from Rise.
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>>740836869
>assdance
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>>740844145
Base Wilds is better than base World
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>>740839450
How the fuck is wilds gonna run on switch 2 when it barely ran on ps5 and PC?
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>>740846525
Permanent polygon mode
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>>740836691
It's too late and the game is too bad.
Maybe if the expansion fixes everything, but that doubtful.
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>>740839521
So what now? You think they won't release any new MH game for the next 8 years when the next "main" game comes out?
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>>740847770
Rise retired Rampages and memory holed them in Sunbreak
Could Wilds revamp what's wrong the same way?
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>>740836691
Of course
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>>740846525
Runs very well on my base ps5, your mental illness is not objective fact
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>>740837127
The only reason Worlds was popular was because when it came out people thought it would be Dragon's Dogma 2, and it wasn't, so they became temporary monster hunter fans.
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>>740848024
Why do all the most retarded posts in MH threads keep calling it "Worlds"?
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>>740848079
league of legends
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>>740848079
they think it's a burn or something. they've been doing it since E3 2017
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>>740848079
a shart is a shit that is also a fart
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>Wilds on ScamTablet 2
>480p 10 fps
Good luck
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>>740836691
Switch 2 already has monster hunter and it’s currently on sale for 4.99 and is a 1000x more fun then wilds slop.
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>>740836691
They will blame everything but the dogshit engine they keep using.
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>>740836691
Yes but also playstation is the only home console store without regional pricing. canadians and sudacas got fucked
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>>740836996
The vast majority of ps5 owners are third worlders who only play sports games and thr latest big multiplayer fps titles, Capcom can never hope to sell their games well over there. I think we're starting to see an exodus of many multiplatform titles away from playstation. Many developers chose to skip it for their upcoming titles in this latest not-E3, and I believe we'll soon see bigger companies leaving. Bandai will be the first to start pulling out of playstation in my opinion, Capcom will soon follow, the audience for these companies is better found on the switch 2 and, most importantly, PC now.
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>>740849224
RE engine is fine provided you have half-decent hardware, my rtx 4060ti handled it like a champ. The problem is when poorfags with consoles or shit entry level PCs try to play it, its not the engine's fault.
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>>740836691
They should blame themselves for making an ass game
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>>740849137
Really wish they'd have made a 60fps upgrade for this on Switch 2. I guess it's probably too old for them to care but it would have been appreciated.
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>>740850151
Generations Ultimate outselling Wilds in the next quarterly report would be a bad look for Capcom
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>add in cutscene skipping
>but also include forced Rockstar walk and talks
What in the monkeys paw is this shit about
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Isn't the game still unoptimized as fuck and still looks like absolute shit?
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>>740847227
SOVL
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>>740836691
Probably. The exaggerated price of PS5 affected the sales of more than one game.
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>>740849137
>>740850151
I don't get why companies don't do what Nintendo does. Do free/paid upgrades. The more people play your games the better, who gives a shit if it's older games. Monhun in 4k 60 fps would be sweet
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>>740836691
>poor sales
The fuck do they consider good sales?
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>>740836691
>PS5 released: 2020
>Wilds released: 2025
Everyone who wanted a PS5 already had one. They had 5 years to buy one.
Are crapcum so retarded they think everyone only buys consoles for MH? Why didn't they complain abour PS5 sales being bad for the yearly RE they shit out of their asses? Makes no fucking sense.
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>>740839907
GU and Rise Sunbreak are there.
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>>740844485
God i hope you step on a lego you fucking asshole. I have played MH since the PSP era and they are nothing alike. You probably don't even play this game and just smugly say shit like this. Worlds was a treat while this shit has killed my hype for anything MH related this generation. The first MH game that i put only 20 hours in. I didn't even get an endgame set. I logged on once during the hub release and never went back. Just because you didn't like the game having actually QOL improvements does not mean that this tragedy is on the same level as those improvements.
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>>740847886
Yes.
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no, mh stories 3 is the biggest flop of the year lol
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>>740855506
it means they barely recouped their money if even that
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>>740836691
I blame the stagnancy of the series and piss poor optimization.
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>>740855786
Maybe they shouldn't have spent an absurd amount of money on one game then
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>>740844145
id wait for wilds expansion and wait to see if the performance gets better
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>>740838854
>>740838784
Chink handhelds and Steam Deck

The future is glorified phones
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>>740855506
Gee I dunno maybe not selling worse than your previous release despite having a much longer dev time and marketing budget

This has always been the strangest defense for wilds. Sales are all relative. If a first time indie dev sells a million copies lifetime that’s amazing. If rockstar sells only a million GTA6 copies in its first month it would probably instantly destroy the company.
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>>740855785
japan never liked mh stories
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Risebreak is a good game and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t
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>>740856141
But if they never liked it then who is it for when JRPGs are niche everywhere else...
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>>740842895
THE SALES ARE FRONTLOADED AND DISCOUNTLESS
THIS ISNT GOOD
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>>740856139
It sold better than World though
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>>740857297
World sold 5 million on its first month and then 6 million more on a year, Wilds sold 10 million on its first month and then ONE single million more in a year. That is BAD, Capcom wanted Wolds to outperform World in a short time, also this proves the first 10 million were only out of hype from world and the sales crashed down when people realized that the game is shit.
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>>740843071
I'm a Ubisoft shareholder, but I don't buy their games :)
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>>740857508
Ascendance will save it
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>>740856361
for them but the mh audience dont like it
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>>740836691
I hope not, Wilds deserve to fail
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Hoooh boy, the daily MH thread made by the same exact two people posting the same exact shit about Wilds
>>740845301
>The game feels like it's in G rank already
Indeed and good on you for pointing it out, this is an actual issue the game has.
Ascendance will certainly bloat numbers even more and make mons even more cracked, but I'm fairly sure the early parts of the game won't be as insane as 9*/10* ATs and roided mons like SSJ2 Rompo, I'm also expecting some sort of soft nerfs like how World Lunastra got nerfed in IB because people complained about the insta-novas and bloated stats.
What worries me more is the roster honestly because some maps aren't really all that big for certain mons, that and how the mons will be actually distributed, since Elders will be the main dish of Ascendance with probably more frenzy on the side with Shagaru I do have to wonder who exactly will they put in the Cliffs as Kush already got slapped in the plains, Kush in the cliffs sounds like hell and that shit is way too small for Velk too.
Looking at the game it might be something like
>Plains: Kush, Teo/Luna
>Forest: Kush, Chammy (?), Nami (?)
>Oilwell: Teo/Luna, new elder (?)
>Cliffs: Kush, Velk (?)
>Wyveria: Everything on rotation
>Sky islands: New elder, Valstrax most likely won't ever get into mainline
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>>740846360
>Wilds takes a bunch of shit from Rise.
It takes practically nothing from Rise. Everything is built from stuff that was already present in World.
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>>740858605
Kirin on cliffs maybe?
>we only have two fire elders
i thought we had more, the fuck?
Valstrax could be in since they already have the divebomb attack on the not-qurupeco monster
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>>740858882
>It takes practically nothing from Rise
Yeah, practically nothing outside of, you know
>A large part of weapon movesets being repurposed moves from Rise
>Having only one armor design
>The Deco system being Rise's deco system including a bunch of skills like Quick Switch that didn't exist in World
>Seikret being based on Palamutes, which were based on Tailriders
>No tracking with every mon being visible on the map from the start
>Wounds and especially tempered wounds being just anomaly cores again
>Support Hunters
>>740859467
Yeah, I forgot Kirin actually so they might slap the horse in the cliffs to deal with the lack of space, might even bring back Oroshi Kirin in this game given it's all about 4/4U fanservice.
And yeah, we don't really have any fire themed Elder in mainline outside of Teo/Luna, weird as it might be, Nergi is probably going to be slapped on any map but the cliffs now that I think about it, he's definitely coming back in Wilds.
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>>740858882
Thw best part of that shit was watching dev interviews qhere they constantly threw Rise under the bus anytime an interviewer made a comparison. They always insisted that the idea was theirs and theirs alone.
>seikret was not based on palamute but raider ride! I actually believe this because seikret controls like hot garbage
>chatacabra is the first new amphibian in YEARS please disregard tetranadon he doesn't exist :^)
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>World caused so much tendie seethe that it persists to this day
Beautiful
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>>740859795
You're confusing Wilds having similar ideas to Rise to it having actually taken those things from Rise. If they actually had done that then most of these thing would've been lot better in Wilds than they ended up being (Palamutes in particular shit on Seikrets so hard it's not even funny).
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>>740844145
I had fun with it, even though Low Rank is easier than ever I genuinely like the moveset changes and the new monsters are fantastic
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>>740860401
>N...no bro Wilds totally didn't remove tracking because of Rise, wounds are totally not the same exact thing as anomaly cores, support hunters weren't added because waifufags beat their meat to the twins or fyo
>Also the same exact shit in Rise was so much better fr fr
You Rise apologists are so embarrassing
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>30 evros now
is it worth it?
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>>740860741
Wait for the G rank bundle unless you really want to play it now
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>>740860741
It's not even worth it for free.
MH Wilds just reminds of those critically acclaimed and yet terrible AAAA squeenix/sony games where you're constantly on rails and are subjected to boring slow walk sections as some NPC gives you the exposition.

That shit is never worth it.
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>>740860741
Key sites usually sell it for less than that, just checked on Loaded and it's selling for 26 bucks in there.
But yeah in its current state it's not a terrible deal if your PC can run it well enough, just bear in mind that it's still a base game and you will have to download some mods from Nexus to remove shit like forced filters so the game can actually look good.
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Why is Capcom in so much denial over Wilds? I've gone from mad to worried at this point. This was their fucking franchise, man. There's no goddamned way at least a chunk of the dev team doesn't look at all this and wonder what the fuck is going on.
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>>740860609
So why did the dev team deny any and all comparisons to rise in every single interview they had?
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>>740861183
>Why does PR talk exist
Oh god you're one of those people who take Ryozo seriously
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>>740857297
No and it didn’t and bizarre posts like these are a symptom for why. What the fuck is capcom doing with its marketing budget? They outsource this shit to jeets and bots and they push the most irrelevant shit.

I swear I’ve seen more effort made to pretend wilds didnt flop than anything actually in wilds itself. It’s like the advertising itself isn’t designed for customers but to explain to shareholders no they actually didn’t fumble the sequel to their best selling game. No, posting 50 times a day about how the game with less players than the old game is actually more popular doesn’t do accomplish anything.
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>>740861619
Then why did Ichinose come forward and point out the ways world influenced rise? If rise was the inspiration for wilds, then why hide that?
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>>740862687
Nigger I don't give a single shit about Ryozo or Tokuda being petty liars, stop simping
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>>740862931
How do you know they're lying and Ichinose is not?
It's obvious you do care because you're so eager to throw wilds' faults at rise rather than at wilds itself.
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>>740863087
I know because I'm not an apologist trying to push a fundamentally dishonest argument to make Rise look better than what it actually is while shitposting about Wilds at the same time despite it having the same things you praise Rise for.
I'm not throwing any faults at Rise exclusively, having only one armor design sucks in Rise AND sucks in Wilds regardless, both are guilty of the same exact sin and I will bitch about both without trying to push an agenda to hype the former like you do, and I will praise both equally for the good things they did and share such as as the Qurio/Wound system because unlike you I'm not a dishonest secondary who has to bitch and moan about every new release that isn't on Nintendo consoles while pushing completely meaningless shit like Ryozo or Tokuda being retards (allegedly as I don't watch any of that interview shit so I'll take your words about them).
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>>740863538
>comparing a whole mechanic added for endgame to what is basically tenderize 2.0
Yea, you're a dishonest primary
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>>740855714
>I have played MH since the PSP era and they are nothing alike
You're part of the problem, things change, grow up.
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>>740863538
I wasn't praising rise or fanboying for nintendo at any point. Not really sure where that accusation comes from.
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wilds haters are unhinged sour grape victims
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>>740842185
I wonder what game that is.
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>>740836996
>PS5 is getting abandoned pretty much globally in favor of Switch 2 because shit just does not seem to sell on the funny white console.
The best selling platform for RE9 was PS5 followed by Steam and its the best selling game of the year. What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>740867582
ps5's singular game
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>>740867582
>What the fuck are you smoking?
Kingdom Hearts 4 being downscaled for Switch 2 into a product that will actually see the light of day, Square Enix in general announcing abandonment of Sony exclusivity because of unprofitability, the fact that even high-profile graphics intensive games like Monster Hunter Wilds are getting Switch 2 ports regardless of the inherent effort it requires, that kind of thing
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>>740867627
The 2nd best selling game of the year, Crimson Desert, isn't even on Nintendo you tard

>>740867773
None of that is these companies abandoning Playstation anymore than putting those games on the Series S is them abandoning Playstation. Third party companies have always been fine bringing shit everywhere and they can do it on Switch 2. This doesn't mean its going to be the main fucking platform when even now, games sell best on Playstation and Steam.
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>>740868234
I don't think it's magic or even particularly complex that these companies that broadly ignored the Switch 1 are coming over to the Switch 2, in some cases developing for it first (especially when they'd kind of have to anyways like with Kingdom Hearts 4) which will probably help Playstation also meet some of its retarded performance goals like 4K60 on games because they're already hitting 1080p60 minimum on a PS4 Pro equivalent piece of hardware
>games sell best on Playstation and Steam.
No shit when those are the two serious options for multiplat. Xbox basically doesn't exist and Switch 2 is becoming a viable option for it. You're gonna see a paradigm shift more towards Switch 2 because people actually buy things on that platform and lower hardware performance goals are better for everybody, vidya variety and new studios took a nosedive the instant AAA budgets and high graphical fidelity became a thing in the very late PS2 years and were cemented in the PS3 years. You're also confusing "abandoned Playstation exclusivity" for "abandoned Playstation"
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>>740837127
Forgot Rise
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>>740836691
No
Wilds is fundamentally bad
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>>740869013
Wilds forgot where it left its difficulty for a while, but I liked it better than basegame World on the whole
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>>740847946
My therapist would disagree with you about my mental illness not being objective fact. She diagnosed me with multiple illnesses and she's quite good at her job.
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Sure. If they added masculine clothing in a recent update. It should do great.
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>go back to Wilds to do all the TU content
>the story still fucking continues with these fucking cutscenes and escorting Erik through a forest
Holy shit I cannot stand this fucking shit.
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Portable 6 better go more for classic style game, I liked World enough but wilds is hot ass, it learned nothing from world or it's flaws other than it sold well so do everything including it's problems again but even more. Also I'm sick of open world style maps I'm so fucking sick man...
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>>740867773
You're completely misreading the state of the industry.
EVERYONE is starting to port things to the Switch 2 because the global hardware market is completely fucked for the foreseeable short term future, not because the PS5 is a supposedly unprofitable platform or because supposedly everyone has a Switch 2, neither of which are true.
It's global damage control because consumers are being effectively gated out of hardware so developers have to try and cover all possible bases in terms of what's already there, Capcom's desperation in porting both DD2 and Wilds to Switch 2 is the same exact desperation that fuels SE or the average PC centric dev, fucking Lords of the Fallen 2 is getting a surprise Switch 2 release, tons of older games like Lies of P are being ported onto Switch 2 because the market is completely fucked and people literally can't buy new hardware anymore due to both the lack of physical hardware AND the prohibitive prices of what's going to be available in the upcoming years.
This is certainly a boon for Nintendo and hopefully it will force devs to relearn at least the basics of optimization, but it's a very bad sign for the industry because it's purely a survival strategy rather than a honest effort in being more open and doing things for the betterment of the industry.
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I think World forever ruined monhun discussion as a whole and raped the whole franchise, half the people who played no most never played or went back to any of the other games and just bitch and moan at everything not being World.
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>>740871762
I think World ruined discussion because everybody's flailing against arguments they had in Youtube comments but on 4chan about World.
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>>740836691
>Pricing
The game wasn't even playable on steam deck
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>>740871249
3rd parties also shot themselves in both feet by largely ignoring the PS2 2.0 sales juggernaut that was the OG Switch.
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>>740871942
I know 3 people who decided to not buy Wilds because they heard game runs like dogshit on all platforms lol. One of them is a massive Capbuck who pre-orders their games while not playing them he just "wants to have them in his collection because its Capcom". No wonder sales of that game flatlined completly,publishers really underestimate stink that post launch social media presence can do to a product nowadays.
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I played rise and I don't thiink it was as bad as people made it out to be, yes even the rampages weren't as bad as Zorah or Lao, so I got past them quickly.
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>>740838539
Anon the split of PS5 to Steam was like 45/55.
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>>740855714
Dumb nigger didn't even finish the story and thinks his opinions is anything but worthless.
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>>740836691
fans:
>this game hand holds you too much and is not like the previous entries
>it runs like shit and has no challenge
>the dlc content is predatory and unnecessary
>the game launched incomplete, taking over a year to fully complete
>the story is obtrusive and abysmal, we don't care about story
corpos:
>this game failed because...
>it wasn't on the switch...
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So can we all admit that the performance issues should have never happened because the only reason they did happen was because Capcom fell for the open world meme and felt they needed to make the maps all way too big and expansive?
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>>740836691

Not because the game sucks ass, be aware
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>>740836869

Go buy a fuckin ad somewhere else Capcom
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>>740874179
The performance issues aren't really about the open world, outside of the problem with asset streaming the game is heavily CPU bound and struggles for the same exact reasons DD2 struggles and has even worse performance than Wilds.
It's the real time simulation shit like monster routines, NPC routines and various things like weather and terrain simulations, given how both DD2 and Wilds are getting ported to Switch 2 I suspect Capcom will patch both games and backtrack on a lot of that simulation bullshit just like they already backtracked on many of those things in Wilds, I wouldn't be surprised if Ascendance removes some things like turf wars happening whenever you're not near the monsters so that the game can actually run at all on Switch 2.
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>>740874747
Much like how DD2 was an indicator of how Wilds would perform, the upcoming 2 Dark 2 Arisen expansion will show us how they plan to fix things for Ascendance. If they can get it running smoothly, there's a good chance Wilds eventually will, too. And it would have only taken an extra two years.
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>>740874747
Devs really need to go back to their routes where they just used smoke and mirrors to make things look more impressive than it actually is.
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Wilds was so bad that it actively destroyed my interest in the franchise as a whole. When they announce the next MH, they would need the prettiest guild receptionist to visit me directly and suck my dick for me to be somewhat interested in buying it.
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>>740875112
I think both teams were simply overestimating how taxing the simulation stuff would be on actual consumer hardware, even if they both had two more years of development time they might have at best fixed some gross oversights like DD2's outrageous LoS rendering problems or Wilds' asset streaming issue causing those massive slowdowns and popups but not the underlying issues of all the simulation stuff hogging CPU cycles constantly.
Both were explicitly aiming at simply sweeping those performance issues under the rug of DLSS and framegen rather than realizing that there were some bad design decisions from the get go, granted that in Wilds' specific case the open world objectively doesn't mean much because the maps themselves are not properly interconnected with each other, it's a straight line from the plains to Wyveria so there's no real way to actually move around freely and nonlinearly, at best you can move inbetween adjacent zones...but there's no real reason to do that either as mons do not travel inbetween maps and the game is still structured in self contained quests, fast travel and a linear main story.

Honestly my issue with Wilds is that it has a really interesting and cool concept that's consistently kneecapped by either contradictory design choices such as having a linear main story in an "open world" that is essentially a linear corridor or the developers being not bold enough to actually enforce their vision because of fan backlash, such as the idea of a nomadic hunter constantly moving around disposable camps which made many old fans bitch and moan about the lack of the gathering hub, and the customary house feature which I'm fairly sure will return in Ascendance in some form.
I like the setting, I love the roster and newcomes, I'm impartial about Focus and most mechanic and overall I'm okay with the current state of the game, but I do hate how unfocused (and cowardly) it is at a direction level, it could have been so much more.
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it sure has been a fuckawful week for playstation
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>>740836691
No, a new MH portable game was a better choice and they fucked it up.
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>>740874179
they only made one map slightly bigger. It's completely pathetic when even shitty budget games could do it generations ago
Far Cry 1, Xenoblade 1, OoT, Gothic

>>740874747
nobody really knows if this is the issue, but those are also completely solvable problems without sacrificing anything gameplay related. You already mentioned the first thing, just not simulating shit that isn't in a players vicinity. Old games didn't even update small monsters for multiplayer. A second thing is Ai LoD, reducing the precision and complexity of monster behavior.

The reality is probably that the game has multiple issues like we know that it has texture decompression, dlc checks (that's only around a specific npc but still a stupid issue).
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>>740877176
We'll see once Ascendance is out I guess, they absolutely need to cut down some stuff because even if we consider the PC version on the lowest possible settings there's no way the Switch 2 can run Wilds at a stable 30 FPS, let alone DD2 which has even worse issues.
There's also the scarier scenario of the Switch 2 versions getting those performance tweaks while every other platform gets no fixes at all because Crapcom is beyond lazy, but I'm not sure how realistic this is given performance issues are the single biggest complaint for both of those games.
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>>740876484
same, i used to cycle between 3U, 4U, GU before wilds came out but i haven't touched anything related to mh after putting up with the abortion that was wilds. really soured me, but like, unironically.
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>release game with notoriously bad performance leading to many shorts on social media showcasing it's dogshit technical feats for the entire world to see
>start pointing fingers as to why it wasnt as successful as world
if it's one thing i hate in life it's people's inability to own up to their own mistakes nor apologize. Capcom's CEO should be gomenasai'ing every day on live TV.
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the trailer for ascendance made me lose all hope. visible fps drops and kushala/lao. i'll just wait for the next portable if there even is one.
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>>740836691
>if the ps5 was cheaper, our dogshit game that runs below 30fps and is a muddy brown blurry pile of snot would sell a lot better. Btw monhun is a story focused series.
We should start spanking game devs for saying dumb things.
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>>740849883
>4060
>people are poorfags
Lmao
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You're all going to buy Asscendance on release, you all deserve this for supporting Crapcom after DD2 and Wilds release.
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>blaming anyone but yourself
is crapcum run by women?
>>740878075
last crapcum game i got was re5 more than 16 years ago
thanks for the buyers rermose
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>Brags about how PC is their dominant platform in investor reports
>Claims their software sales more on PC than all other games combined
>Blames PS5 for some reason
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>>740878075
I will buy DD2DA on release and I will buy Ascendance on release yes. Despite their flaws I still love DD2 and Wilds and think they're both great games.
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>>740836691
>pricing
except you said it sold 10 million copies in 1 months, so pricing is not the issue here
its almost like the game's shit or something



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