I dunno, for some reason I'm less hyped for Xenoblade Genesis than I thought I would be. Any sort of school settings feel like old news by now. We already got Persona 5, Fire Emblem Three Houses, the Cold Steel games etc. etc. Hopefully it's just an early game thing. Tbh more than anything I hope Persona 6 is set at an university or something.Also visually it's kinda weird. Seems like a Switch 1 game with amped up lighting. Wouldn't be surprised if it started as a Switch 1 project.
>>740916889Persona will rehash 3 until the end of timeschool settings suck dick but the ring world is cool, based off the leaks it hopefully sounds like the school isn't going to last long
>>740916987Yeah, that would be good. Koizumi said its early scenes.
>>740916889It's failed fantasy otome. Or if you're a zoomer it's bad romantasy slop.
>fem protagshan't be buying
>>740917247Gay.
>>740917297not as gay as playing as a woman
>>740916889the school setting is kind of lame but I think the ringworld/dyson sphere overworld looks really cool. hopefully it takes place more in the latter than the former. it's pretty obvious there will be some sci-fi twist and it's not all going to be generic fantasy, I just hope it happens like a 3rd or halfway through the game and not right at the very end.
>>740916889The complaints about the graphics are very funny. Because yeah it's on point, it looks like a last gen game with a bit more detail. But every fucking minute on this board there's some other fag complaining about how they can't tell this gen's graphics from last gen's and how they want a retvrn to PS2 graphics or some shit in a big reactionary cirlcejerk.
>>740917631problem is Nintendo consoles always lag behind graphically, so it sticks out even more when their games are also lagging relative to the console they're on.
>>740916889> The people in Genesis are descendants of the people who took part in the Earthlife Colonisation Project prior to the experiment in Klaus' world.> They were sent on Philadelphia class motherships which looks similar to the crashed structure in the trailer in that scene with the flying dragon. > The world is a concave inward sphere i.e. a hollow Earth. The ship crashed onto the surfaced and emerged into the center from the outside. > Maybe they are descendants of people displaced by the experiment into "far-flung dimensions"> This is the virtual environment where the trinity processor was raisedAny other ideas? What is Anima?
The graphics took a hit because of the ring world. It now has to render big landmasses instead of a skybox as you look up. That had to come with some sort of sacrifice.
>>740917730It just looks like what it is, which is a console JRPG running on roughly PS4-ish hardware, in 10W TDP envelope, and without using a good upscaling solution to give the power budget more of a buffer. It's just what last gen rendering looked like.But people know it doesn't look that good now intuitively because we have more modern rendering techniques. Techniques that people now either take for granted or constantly bitch about.
No chance in hell the school setting pervades the game. 3 does a bait-and-switch where you spend time learning Flame Clock mechanics that are promptly thrown out early in the chapter and you become liberated. Based on leaks, something similar could happen.
>>740917928Man. I was so excited at the beginning of this console generation like six friggin' years ago when virtual geometry tech was supposed to completely eliminate pop-in. Then it just never happened.
>>740918724Works well in AC Shadows, at least on PC.
>>740916889Its because the trailer sucked. It was boring as hell. It showed practically nothing, we don't know what the characters are doing or even their names. Its just a bunch of whos fighting some other whos for a reason we don't know. We didn't see any actual gameplay either. If this was a brand new IP people would all be saying how dull and boring it is far more then they already are.The only good thing about this trailer are its implications. The tie ins to the xeno world and the possible lore surrounding stuff like the suns, sphere world or the sword crystal. Even the leaks were more exciting then what we saw.
>>740916889The school is probably just the setup honestly. These games aren't the kind that would root themselves into one thing forever.
>>740918157Hallway game with loading screens between battles vs a massive open world with battles taking place directly on the field now also renders the world map in the sky.Tales Of Mid never touched GOTY anything in its life or death. Genesis will likely be for 2027.
>>740917207Have you played it?
who cares
>>740916889it just looks fucking lamemaybe I'll be proven wrong, but the trailer isn't inspiring any confidence in me
>>740917593I think the twist away from the fantasy otome stuff and into sci-fi will happen earlier than in the other games because they're barely hiding it at all. You probably have to travel to all the different lands first though so maybe like halfway through the game.
>>740917631Monolith used to push the boundaries of the system they were developing for, the minute the hardware they are using is powerful enough to stop limiting them they pull back and make the game look shit. This is a weird mismatch between expectations from past performance and reality.I am also one of those people who want the industry to go back to ps2 graphics but the goal is not for everything to look like a shitty UE4 slop game. It's to go back to the same feeling xenoblade 1 has of grand hyper ambitious environments that don't take 8 years to develop, XB1 on the wii has more interesting environments than this game.
>>740922487This is their first effort on switch 2 so they're still seeing how far they can push the hardware. But you can already see the massive jump in polygon count and environment detail such as grass and more people shown onscreen.
>>740922637Monolith was not the sort of shitty studio that jerks off to inconsequential turd polishing like poly count and shrubbery fucking, they used to prioritise grand ambition and scale and made it work on Wii which is literally just ps2 era hardware. The problem alot of people are having with this game isn't just the graphics, the art direction is off. The environments look generic, colours are oversaturated and gross, the style on everything is clashing and doesn't know whether it wants to be celshaded or not and the overall application of texture and detail looks both lazy and inconsistent.Botw is straight up just a nicer looking game than this on every level, it has nothing to do with hardware power.
>>740922921idk I think having your game set in a ringworld where you can see other landmasses in the sky is pretty ambitious in terms of scale. I don't think any game on this scale has done something like that before. I mean we'll see how grand it actually feels in practice, but I think in concept that's a fair next step for a series that's already as ambitious as Xenoblade is. concerns about the art style are fair though.
>>740923221I think that's cool and basically the only part of this game that feels like Monolith but it's essentially just a weird skybox and is secondary to your immediate environment which is boring and kind of ugly. I'm looking at screenshots of xb1 on the wii and ignoring the 320p blur I genuinely think it looks nicer because it has better use of colour and detail allocation.
>>740916889>xenoblade atelier
>>740916889It unironically looks worse than a wii game.
The characters look like absolute dogshit including the protagonist
Also, Xenoblade-bros?Not even locked 60 in XC1?
>>740922487>Monolith used to push the boundaries of the system they were developing for, the minute the hardware they are using is powerful enough to stop limiting them they pull back and make the game look shit. This is a weird mismatch between expectations from past performance and reality.Compare Xenosaga Ep.1, the moment they made a game on PS2, to Xenosaga Ep.3, a late-gen PS2 game. Maybe the Switch 1 was more a bit powerful than people give it credit, because XB3 was them reaching the full capabilities of the Switch and their own character modeling without going into full-blown anime realism like FF. Genesis just being 3 again but with denser environments and more fluid character rigging checks out since they also can't afford to go into development hell like the Persona team when they started developing for PS4/5.>>740922487>It's to go back to the same feeling xenoblade 1 has of grand hyper ambitious environments that don't take 8 years to develop, XB1 on the wii has more interesting environments than this game.Koizumi said the gameplay we saw was just from the first few chapters of the game, and the snippets of the towns we saw already look more interesting than most of the early areas from XB1.
>>740923665We're getting into this old gamefreak argument where coping pokemon fanboys were blaming the switch for why their games looked like an aborted unity student project, ignoring that BOTW existed on the same system. This game looks worse than XB1 on the wii>>740923561It's not about power or adjusting to a new power bracket, it's bad art direction.
>>740916889map looks like a palworld ripoff
>>740923846Pokemon games on the Switch are so bafflingly and subhumanly shit I lose all respect for any adult that plays them.The new Switch 2 ones looks like what the first Switch 1 one should have been like.
>>740923637>>740923561Reminder that monolithsoft has hella staff shortages since nintendo laidoff 90% of their staff when XDE flopped... sk ya we can say they are pretty chopped anymore.
>>740923919Unironically XenoGenesis looks so bad even Scarlet and Violet look better unironically
This might be the most anti-hype I've ever seen 4chan get for a game — not a good sign :/
>>740923637Oh my goodness Xenoblade-bros... I think we might be in for a world of hurt with this new "Genesis" game... might actually be the Sonic 06 of Xeno...
>>740923561Holy heck, you might be right! It looks like a PS2 game!
There are six (6) unique character models in the school. In the Japanese direct, it was clearly stated that everything we see is from the prologue. There is an entire fucking world surrounding you at all times. Do you honestly fucking think this is a school setting?
>>740923846>his game looks worse than XB1 on the wiiAnd everyone of us agrees! How did Monolithsoft fall so far!
>>740925210Probably no, nigger, but the way they've shown it dehyped me.
>>740925210Who cares, it looks worse than XB1 on the wii.>>740923846>We're getting into this old gamefreak argument where coping pokemon fanboys were blaming the switch for why their games looked like an aborted unity student project, ignoring that BOTW existed on the same system. This game looks worse than XB1 on the wiiAll of this. And I bet its gonna be just as glitchy as allot of the nu-Pokemon titles too.
>>740925260That's a you problem, man. The school is going to get Lahan'd and we see a spacecraft immediately following the introduction of a dragon rider carrying four guns. You can't be this new to Xeno games.
>>740925260We're all just anti-hype for this game in general. It looks worst than most PS2 games.
So why does sharty spam Xenoblade threads?
>>740923561>>740923637Dang, Enelcord must be having a rough week seeing the series they shilled so much become so chopped :||
what do you mean you didn't stand up and clap for the 100th jrpg to come out in the next year
>>740925341Bro the game really does look worse than XB1 on Wii. Its pretty much universally agreed upon in this thread. Not everyone is your personal boogyman dude.
>>740923561I make no exaggeration when I sy Xenoblade Genesis looks worse than even the Switch 1 Pokemon titles. Yeah those games look bad but this kne looks horrific.
>>740925373I wish I could love this game anonbro but it looks so bad, and many, many anons agree.
Final Fantasy 7 Revelation looks like such a better investment than this crap. No wonder Enelcord (is that what theyre called?) has been going full panic mode lately
>>740925210It just reminds people too much of Fire Emblem Three Houses. It's probably important to remember that this is a Xeno game and like the school is probably actually used for evil or something. Maybe it gets destroyed and you spend the game fixing it up like Colony 6.
>>740916889>persona at universitynice reddit pasta you got there
>>740923637Enel's gonna have a hard time trying to swoop this under the rug :/
>>740923637Oh no no no Xenoblade-senpai... Not like this...
Feels like we're leading up to a modern-day TORtanic with XBG. It looks worse than XB1 on Wii.
Show of arms how many bugs and glitches do yall think are gonna be in Xenogenesis, since it looks so bad already.
>>740918157The graphics in Xenoblade Genesis are noticeably a lot better than this, Genesis probably cost a lot less to make too.
>>740925819Xenoblade Genesis looks objectively worse than most PS2 games.
>>740923637>>740923561Xenoblade is in such a dire strait. Those layoffs from after XDE flopped fucked them hard.
is there a single fucking studio that takes actually advantage of stronger hardware and doesnt just regress?
>>740925934It's incredible just how hard Monolith is cratering on the jump to NS2. The layoffs they suffered in 2025 arent helping means either.
>>740925856I'm glad to see that you don't let being blind stop you from posting, you truly are a brave person.
>>740925934They're called Rockstar pal
>high detail shrubbery in the foreground while everything else that the adventurer's eye is actually drawn to looks worse than xc on wii let alone xcx on wii u which is still the best looking nintendo gameI find all of this really weird. How did Monolith of all studios get their priorities so wrong?
>>740925703What's next faggot? Will you try to resurrect Shazam memes?
>>740916889
>>740925986Right? Like its pretty much a unanamous agreement it looks worse than XC1 on Wii
>>740926012??????? It legit does look worse than XC1 on Wii tho???
>>740916889>>740916889>>740916889>he thinks Xenoblade will stay in the school settingThis is like watching Star Wars and thinking the whole movie is going to be about Luke at the moisture farm with Uncle Owen and Aunt Beiru.Dummy, this is a setup to ground the characters in a relatable setting until the call to action/adventure is made and the protagonists have to go on a journey. This is basic heroes journey 101They even made it easier for you when Koizumi explicitly said "these are early moments from the game"Xenoblade Chronicles 3 did something similar with the infantry life harvesting energy for the flame clock, the game even gives you a fake tutorial and then immediately rips the characters out of that setting in the next chapter.
>>740918157>it looks like what it isit looks like they are using the G'mic cartoon filter for everything more than 100m away
>>740926074fr. these uncs are blind.
>>740926105Oh so the terrible looking schoolchildren protagonists get to go on a journey, ohh I didn't realize, thank you for clarifying
>>740926118That filter is disgusting, I really don't like it in Xenoblade Genesis either.
>>740923637reminder that these are the "ultimate versions" of these games and the only ones you'll be able to play until the end of time. i bet you can't even buy the regular switch versions on the switch 2's eshop anymore cause it just assumes you'd want the switch 2 version.
>>740926212I'm old enough to remember when the Definitive Edition was supposed to be the definitive edition
>>740926212holy fuck i have never been dooming harder about this series. first the new game looking worse than xc1 on wii, now this?
>>740925986>How did Monolith of all studios get their priorities so wrong?Mass layoffs after XDE flopped. Many anos already explained this .>>740926296>>740926171There's just no positivity surrounding this franchise anymore. Genesis might just be Monolithsoft's very own Lunar Dragon Song.
>>740926350Negatimmies popping off! Party in the thread!!
>>740925986>>740926179Friendly reminder that Lunar Dragon Song, the game that killed Lunar, was called Lunar Genesis in Japan.The more things change...
>>740926410Yeah I noticed that too
>>740926350>There's just no positivity surrounding this franchise anymore.On /v/ lol, and this isn't exclusive to Xenoblade but to all games because this is a shithole that hates games. The rest of the internet is hyped.
>>740926350>Mass layoffs after XDE flopped. Many anos already explained thisidk why you're shit posting in a thread with legit concerns. there were no mass layoffs. not to mention that being a smaller studio, probably still twice the size from what it was in 2008 wouldn't suddenly make you retarded at art direction
>>740926410No wonder it looks worse than xenoblade1 on Wii...
>>740925260Subhuman third-world faggot
>>740926460>The rest of the internet is hyped.For trash. Genesis looks worse than most PS2 games, and is primed to kill the seires for good with its suckyness.
>>740923637>>740923561>>740925986Enelcord? Mind explaining these?
>>740926568Yeah the usual shill brigade just got hella quiet all in a sudden.
>>740925986>>740923637>>740926212it hurts so much xenobros, final fantasy and persona fans are eating so good while we get fucked up hard with shoddy downgrades and a new game that looks worst than the original wii 1 game :(
>>740917730>problem is Nintendo consoles always lag behind graphically,Fuck graphics. This shit is why you are waiting 10 years for the next game. It's so stupid.
>>740923637>fuck up XCX upgrade>fuck up XC1 upgrade>will fuck up XC2/3 upgradesAnd they want you to pay for this shit.
Genesisnlooks worse than XC1 on Wii and pretty much nobody in the 4chan community can debate that.
>>740926793What's the new rare blade
>guys I swear the game will get better!! It only looks like complete shit in the beginning, the characters and graphics will somehow completely change into something amazing in chapter 2!!
>>740926793Yeah I'm so done with Monolithsoft for good. Meanwhile Persona+FFbros are eating so good.
>>740916889I have severe PTSD from school settings because of Trails of Cold Steel 1-2. I forced myself through those games and then never touched the series again and my body just reacts in disgust when seeing any type of school in media now.
>>740926856I don't know. Probably a guy
>>740926793It hurts so much bros. Meanwhile Personabros get a remake of one of their beloved hames and a new game while FFbros get the conclusion to an epic trilogy while we live in squalor>>740926865The remaining fans of xenoblade are turning into pokemob fanboys with these explanations as my fellow anon >>740923846 notes.
>>740926856Who cares? Every Xenoblade tbing since 3 has been a total scam and Henesis is probably gonna kill the series for good.
And, one more thing, Xenoblade-bros.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar%3A_Dragon_Song>Lunar: Dragon Song, known in Japan and Europe as Lunar Genesis>Lunar GENESISWe are so fucked...
>>740925972There were layoffs? First time hearing of that.
>>740926865My god Enelcord has been in full panic mode lately, this series is falling apart at record rate. Unironcly hyped for the scandals thatvwill arrise from Genesis' development.
>>740927081Yeah, like 90% of their staff was laid off after XDE flopped. Explains why Genesis looks worse than XC1 on Wii, they lost hella talent.
>>740927128Any source for this? Usually newsbloggers love to spam about layoffs.
Meanwhile, in Final Fantasy-Landhttps://press.na.square-enix.com/Items/Details/FINAL-FANTASY-VII-REVELATION
>>740927037>Elements>Genesis>Melia's talent art is called Element Genesis
>>740927218FFbros are eating so much better than us it's crazy D:
>>740927218>mobile port>crossover wankStill waiting for a real FF.
>>740923637>>740926793>>740926865I anticipate a huge boycott for Xenoblade Genesis. Monolithsoft has completely destroyed their credibility in many gamer's eyes.
>>740918157Retard. Xenoblade 3 was already head and shoulders above Arise in terms of scope, graphics, character models, animations, cutscenes and technology used.
>>740927361It looks so, so much better than Xenoblade GeneSHAM, though.
>>740926692>final fantasy and persona fans are eating so goodidk man when I try to describe in what way Xenoblade Genesis looks so shitty, the first game that comes to mind is Metaphor ReFantazio which was made by the Persona team... And Persona 4 Remake looks (of you have standards) pretty fucking bad and P3R also had the soul stopped out of it. I don't think any jrpg fans are eating good unless they don't have critical thinking skills which tbf is most of them
>>740927361It's literally not a mobile port, it's a proper full game, and much more worth its value than Xenogenesis
>>740927465brih japan just cant make good shyt anymore that mf place needs to sink into the ocean
>>740927465>I don't think any jrpg fans are eating good unless they don't have critical thinking skills which tbf is most of themBased you can knly think genesis looks good for example if you are literally enel or enelcord shill.
>>740927465Reminder that the only ppl hyped for xenoblade genesis is Enelcord. Im not kidding bruh
>>740916889No catgirl in xenoblade no buyApparently Monolith is clueless what is an attractive female anime design to replace them with generic elfs
>>740927465>don't think any jrpg fans are eating good unless they don't have critical thinking skills which tbf is most of themSounds like your describing Enelcord, shoa re the only community left who thinks XenoGenesis looks good despite objectively looking worse than XC1 on Wii
>>740927628It looks worse than XC1 on Wii. Just look at all the other channers who agree with this statiment.
>>740927465This entire post is such highstandardchad energy. Like legit all the people whk wanna play genesis are so stupid! But for now Imma chill witchu in this based Xenoblade Genesis Anti-Hype General.
this nigga spamming the thread about discord is actually gonna make me buy this game out of spite
>>740927556>>740927593>>740927638>12:06>13:06>14:07trying a lil too hard there lil bro
>>740927628Especially considering every gacha is pushing out kemonomimi its very weird. FFs entire Uma Musume is built around cute animal eared girls
>>740927628>replace them with generic elfs>asking for generic catgirls
I don't know, some of the characters look weird and off to me. Like an amateur artist trying to draw a face but they don't really know how.
>we spent all this years waiting for a game that looks worse than the first game on wiiYeah fck this Im done with monolithsoft>>740927889Yeah it looks AI generated.
>>740927825Because elfs are overrepresented in vidya
