Is there any fucking reason I should buy some audiophile bullshit headphones when I can just buy regular TWS earbuds that my phone manufacturer makes or any wireless over ear headphones for that matter and use them for gaming and for everything else, on PC and anywhere else?I don't understand why should I give up all these features that mainstream earbuds and headphones have like noise cancelling and other shit just to buy some open back bullshit which don't even dampen the outside sound well when I live in a noisy environment.I don't see literally a single normalfag going out of the way to buy HD 600s for gaming or otherwise, so why in the fuck should I do it? I don't give a fuck about sound quality, I just want it to hear shit without noise, for it to be comfortable to wear and for the sound to not be potato-level shit. I will also not "configure", "adjust", "EQ" anything, nobody does that shit.
>>741023740>Is there any fucking reason I should buy some audiophilefor gaming?No, don't bother. Most vidya has shit audio mixing anyway
>>741023740Why so angry? If you prefer earphones just get earphones. I prefer headphones because I don't like the feeling of earphones in my ear canal.
>>741023967I didn't say I prefer earphones, I said that I don't see the point of buying shit like HD 600s when you can buy:>TWS earbudsor>wireless over ear headphones
>>741023948For any reason, and for gaming too. Audiofags are going around telling you to buy some audiofagshit when there's not a single normalfag that buys something other than AirPods or other consumer-grade wireless earbuds or headphones and nobody seems to complain
>>741024169You should only be looking into the HD 600's if you're an audio engineer. They aren't intended to be used for consumer listening.
sorry but i have speakers + a sub and cans i am bag of all trades
>HD650 for PC>5.1 surround setup for TV>Airpod Pro 3 when I'm not at home
>>741024064Well I guess it's the same reason why autists will refuse to play a game if they can't do 100 fps minimum, as if they can honestly tell the difference between 60 and 80 fps or 100 and 120 fps.
>>741023740Yes you should buy nice headphones. Because I said so.
>>741023740Just like with most things: you buy things because you want to try them out. If you have enough money and want to try it, just try. But don't go too expensive. 560s is already enough audiophile and can go for 100 during sales. If that's still too much for you then you can just be a bitch and return them.
>>741023740There will always be a certain increase in audio quality when you invest on more expensive brands, but on the other hand, audiophile headphones specifically for gaming would be a complete waste u less you actively work on sound design yourself.If you prefer earbuds, then get some cheap IEMs, there are some very good brands out there like Truthear that will sound so much better than the usual cheap Sony earbuds.
>>741024169They also don't complain about paying subscription fees to rent shit they can get for free. Normalfags are plebs who don't know any better and are too retarded/lazy to learn, not exactly a standard you should follow
>>741024517Meh you can get used to audio but low fps will always affect your performance. I'd say audiophile setup is like 150 fps vs 300 fps or something like that.
>>741023740if you think it's bullshit then don't bother with it simple as. Just stay away from "gaming" shit as it's the same as audiophil marketing just in a different flavour. Not sure how good wireless headphones are but I've seen delay in bluetooth devices which I would find annoying in gaming or when watching video.
sound design is a lost art in video games and movies. Just get one of those hyper x ones, last a while and pretty good
>>741023740>I don't see literally a single normalfag going out of the way to buy HD 600s for gaming or otherwiseYou should't be looking at normalfag consumer habits as any sensible baseline.
>>741024064regular tws buds are dogshit for games because bluetooth is dogshit for games.plus they won't last forever like good wired headphones.>why buy nice thingsto feel nice, of course.
>>741023740Bluetooth stuff shits the bed fast and there will always be some delay that you can avoid by simply using wired stuff.The best audio quality TWS earbuds are easily matched by 20 dollar wired buds.>should I buy audiophile headphones if I have literally no reason to use them for their intended purpose?Oh I don't know. Just buy a corsair headset or something.On a different note, the thing about good headphones is that they stay good. The HD600s are old enough to drink and drive and they're still the king. The difference between good headphones and TWS is night and day. You can hear the instruments separately.
>>741024886>sound design is a lost art in video gamesLost art because of this company being killed.But very few here are old enough to know.
>>741023740You don't see normalfags using good headphones but gaymingshit or tws slop because normalfags literally don't care about the quality of their audio equipment and anything that can produce sound is enough for them. Don't be like a normalfag. The difference between shitty speakers/headphones and good ones is like switching from TN to OLED but for your ears. If you're too much of a poorfag and can't spend more than 100 bucks just get 20 dollar chink IEMs, that's already better than gaming branded slop and the like. If you can spend more than 150 bucks I recommend open back headphones instead.
>>741025349But why should you care? Humans adapt. It's nice at first but then it's nothing, and everything less will feel worse. Normalfags don't go about their lives and cry about poor audio or how they can't enjoy anything. It's the opposite really.
>>741025447Are you aware what the Torah says about gentiles?
>>741025447>why should your standards be higher than literal human cattle?Very effective bait.
>>741025541So why should your standards be higher?
>>741024524They're not nice because they don't have any features>>741024667No, I do not want to try them>>741024698>If you prefer earbudsI don't>>741024940Normalfag consumer habits is a much more sensible and trustworthy baseline compared to what audiofags suggest>>741025141>Just buy a corsair headsetI mean I'm not interested in gaming headsets either>You can hear the instruments separatelyMy ears are not trained to be able to separate audio into multiple instruments either way>>741025349I very specifically do not want headphones or earbuds that:>are open back>do not have noise cancelling features
>>741025447>But why should you care?Because actually hearing different instruments positioned in different places instead of one mass of sound is nice and headphones that will last you a lifetime instead of break after 4 years are also nice. Going by that same logic you should use the shittiest cheapest monitor and graphics card since 30 fps at 720p is enough because "humans adapt". My HD600 are almost 20 years old, my LCD-X is 5+ years old. Spending a few hundred bucks for something that will last me a quarter of my life is a good deal if you ask me.
>>741025728>compared to what audiofags suggestNot at all. State your budget and audiofags will always give you better recommendations than normalfags. I've seen animals spend HD650 money on wireless gaymer shit and that's exactly what you shall receive when you ask a bottom-feeder for their opinion on what to buy.
>>741025741I cannot use 720p and 30fps because that isn't what video games are designed in mind.Why should I care about the position of the instruments unless I work in music production? I have 560s but most of the time I don't use them. I use some cheap sony IEMs because I find them more comfortable and the left and right separation is stronger. I use 560s on some nights to chill to ASMR or music but after wearing them for a while the magic just fades away.
>>741023740Earbuds are worse for your hearing and can lead to ear infections.
>>741025921>I use my glasses daily but after wearing them for a while the magic just fades away so why bother getting them in the first place?More clarity is always more clarity even if you stop paying attention to it.
>>741023740Sennheiser HD600Opinion discarded.
>>741025447>But why should you care?If you're normalfag-brained who is happy with bottom of the barrel low quality trash and are too scared to try something objectively better, sure, why would you care? But the whole thread is already telling you the advantages of good sound quality and how you can get decent headphones that don't break the bank. But you do you.
>>741025987Clean your shit and you won't get infections. Literal circumcision defense post, I hope you are snipped.
>>741025728>My ears are not trained to be able to separate audio into multiple instruments either wayYou don't have to be a trained listener for that. You just think that's impossible because listening to dogshit audio equipment all the time conditioned you into thinking that separation into multiple insturments is impossible for you to hear. If you need noise isolation then try out some chink IEMs. Shit's 20 bucks so even if you don't like it it costs basically nothing and you should at least hear the difference between good and bad audio once. >>741025921>Why should I care about the position of the instrumentsYou're asking why you should care about the music you're listening to sounding good???
>>741026054Actually I have 0.5 vision and glasses and that's exactly what I do. I use them while driving or if I know I need to do something visually demanding but most of the time I find it better to not to use them. And when I am not using them I cannot even tell what I am missing out.
>>741023740audio quality, i went from an entry level studio headphones to gaming ones for a short while and I could no longer listen to my favorite song due to the bass boosting completely raping that track, it was legitimately disgusting
>>741023948This is completely untrue, it's music that all has shit mixing. Video games occasionally actually do it right.
>>741023740I have upgraded to 200 something headphones from my previously 30 bucks one. Both chord, stereo and open. There is a noticeable difference in quality, but only noticeable if you have then side by side and completely negligible. So stick to the quality 30 quid stero ones, if you have proper ones.
>>741025987Anon, my post doesn't say that earbuds are the correct choice or whatever
>>741025741>Because actually hearing different instruments positioned in different places instead of one mass of soundSoundstage on music tracks is a meme. HRTF on the other hand isn't and you can hear real independent positioning in a 3D environment if a games engine supports it. Except that isn't implemented in gaming audio anymore. All that shit died with Open AL. If you're lucky Dolby Atmos mixed games sometimes can replicate the out of your head sound.
>>741024517>as if they can honestly tell the difference between 60 and 80 fps or 100 and 120 fps.Kind of weird to try to act superior by admitting youre blind. Its not sonething i would do personally but i hope it works out for you in the future
>>741026247Unsurprising.
>>741026435Well it surprised that anon given that they came up with that example.
>>741023740If you've got enough hearing damage that wireless earbuds/earphones sound the same as a dedicated pair of openback wired heaphones then yeah stick with buds man.Otherwise if you want to get into the wonderful world of hifi I'd recommend avoiding the HD600/650/6XX because they're genuinely awful headphones. This coming from someone that has exclusively worn an HD800S for the last 11 years and loving them.These days you can get in on magnificent quality for extremely cheap such as the HiFiman Edition XS direct from the manufacturer for $166.32 right now using CLR10POFF here: https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/edition-xs-refurbished.htmlThey state they are refurbished but they have 100% all new parts effectively and come sealed from the manufacturer. My wife replaced her HD6XXs with these and genuinely shocked me at their quality. Since they're planar magnetic you don't need some crazy expensive AMP to drive them either and on that topic the world of amp/dacs has gotten psychotically competitive. For 60$ you can get something with an impossibly low noise floor and balanced 4.4mm output: https://www.amazon.com/Fosi-Audio-DS2-Resolution-Pro/dp/B0CTHN2QB3 but you don't even need something at this price for pure transparency, you can get that sub-20$ and it will still fully drive these headphones: https://www.amazon.com/CX31993-MAX97220-Digital-Portable-decoding/dp/B0CWRFD81COr even lower if you don't plan to use hifi audio sources and just want standard hidef 24/48kHz output with the Apple (yes, really, the US 1W version) USB-C DAC. And to be clear this is the only product Apple has ever made that is worth buying.
>>741026537This isn't Reddit. You have to press enter twice to do that.
I don't get why anons recommend bulky over headphones in 2026 when superior chink-fi iems exist. Do none of you live in hot places or wear glasses???
I feel like nobody's getting what I'm saying, probably because I worded it all badly.What I'm saying with my post is that I prefer headphones with the following features:>closed back>with Active Noise Cancelling>with transparency mode>with other mainstream features that you find on every consumer earbuds/headphones>wirelessBut audiophiles always attempt to say or imply that these headphones are shit because their HD 600s have better sound quality at the expense of being:>wired>open back>without any featuresThe point is that I don't give a fuck about what sound quality you have if they don't have the features that I want and I'm fucking tired of audiofags coming in and trying to say that their thing is better when their choice is so niche that no normalfag, whether completely clueless or interested in tech, buys their HD 600s and instead buys typical consumer earbuds/headphones which have all these features. It is not like OLED monitors, which are far more common among normalfags, unlike audiofag shit that is completely niche, so what the fuck makes audiofags so confident in their shilling of audiofag hardware?
>>741026656Not sure what you mean but I don't post on plebbit. Don't bother explaining, I don't want to know about the asinine culture of the atheist collective.
>>741026235>You're asking why you should care about the music you're listening to sounding good???I can enjoy my music and games just fine without being able to pinpoint sloppy mixing and so can majority of the people. Maybe one day you will find something you can enjoy instead of having to around telling others that they're actually not enjoying the things they think they are.
>>741023740You don't need headphones at all, faggot. Just listen through the speakers. Literally everyone who wears headphones, every SINGLE person, is a fucking dumb idiotic piece of shit. It only makes sense in public.
>>741026730I'm not reading all that. If you need features like ANC, transparency and wirelessness you are looking for headphones or earbuds to use outside. Get whatever the fuck because the outside noise will ruin sound anyway. You should have real, open back headphones at home for everything else.
>>741026723>I don't get why anons recommend bulky over headphones in 2026 when superior chink-fi iems exist. Do none of you live in hot places or wear glasses???I love my Moondrop Blessing 3 IEMs but they will never compare to the experience of my HD800S or my livingroom surround sound system. Ignoring all of the things IEM are infinitely inferior for ultimately it comes to a matter of comfort. Having something inside your delicate ear canal for as long as I wear headphones is a health hazard at worst and at best an irritation since the weight of an admittedly small/light object is resting against the top of your ear canal. Not gonna tell you how to live your life but if you're spending 8 hours a day with IEMs inserted you should at least consider switching to foam tips to more evenly distribute the weight and avoid long-term permanent damage. But even they will still G A P E you irreparably.
>>741023740not everybody feels the need to seek out a premium, prestige listening experience, artisanally hand-crafted in brooklyn, NY. nor could they appreciate it if they did.stick to the earbuds pal.
>>741026970How much do audiophile IEM weight and what material are they made out of?..
Good headphones are well worth it. Now there is a world of difference between good headphones and audiofool tier headphones which are expensive just because. Something like sundaras are a huge leap over anything below it but you're not going to get such a leap in buying headphones 2, 3 or 4 times the cost as that isn't how it works.I am a firm believer in good external amp and dac solutions but these can be had for cheap since the chips inside them have long passed the point where any distortion is human perceivable (can be machine measured though) and headphones don't need much in the way of power to get to ear splitting volume so even something that outputs 300w or so at 96ohms is more than enough for 99% of headphones. If you need more than that you'd know as you'd be buying an amp around your headphones (like beyerdynamic has some old 300ohm headphones which is absurd impudence).Gaymer branded anything is a scam in the audio world as you get meh headphones and a meh mic in one package for an absurd markup.Also: planar magnetic 4 lyfe.
>>741026723I just don't like putting shit in my ears, Nepbro.>wear glassesThe open backs I'm using don't change their FR with a seal broken by glasses. I do use IEMs on the go. I like my Zero Reds but I like my LCD-X more.>>741026730If you need noise isolation or transparency you want headphones to use outside. Nobody sane uses open backs outside, they're for listening at home. I don't see a single reason why you'd need noise isolation or transparency when you're playing vidya unless your PC fans are extremely loud. I can understand wanting wireless but if you're sitting in front of your monitor I highly doubt you're walking around much while wearing headphones. If you don't "get" it then listen to your favorite tracks on some decent headphones. Just go to an audio store and try them. There is an immense difference between normgroid headphones with shit tuning and lots of bass bloat vs actual proper headphones. Same thing with speakers.
>>741026949>>741027417>to use outsideWell except that I need noise isolation at home and I specifically do not need it outside?
>>741027392>Gaymer branded anything is a scam in the audio world as you get meh headphones and a meh mic in one package for an absurd markup.How is it a scam if people are getting their needs met?
>>741027392>planar magnetic 4 lyfe.planar are great but sometimes I wonder how good Stax are but even their "entry level bundle" is a pair of 600 bucks headphones and another 600 for the amp
>>741027523Then use closed back headphones or IEMs instead of open back headphones? That's still a huge leap in audio quality compared to normgroid shit. The average 20 dollar chink IEM mops the floor with every single wireless earbud/headphone.
>>741026970You got a bulky iem for 8 hour usage bro. You should have looked for single planar iems or something instead.
>>741027662I literally said that I want it to be wireless and with active noise cancelling, which they probably do not have
>>741027579You are glossing over the absurd markup part but hey ho.
>>741027861Then the only thing that would meet those requirements are the TWS models from Moondrop like Space Travel 2 but they're in ears. The only over ear model like that is Focal Bathys but they're extremely overpriced.>>741027579NTA but if you buy a headphone and mic separately you'll get a far better mic and headphones while spending the same amount of money.>>741027621I've had the L300 and their complete inability to create decent subbass was a dealbreaker desu. Sounded pretty good otherwise and were very light but the build quality wasn't good. I hear their newer entry level model is supposedly better built, though.
>>741027621Honestly no idea. From measurements and the deviation from the harman curve it is clear most stax headphones are really not for everyone and in a world of so much subjectivity and the need for specialised amps to power them they very much remain a product that the people who love them really love them but many do not.Headphones in general are not "head speakers" but that is what those stax headphones are actually trying to be.
>>741027340>>741027821Any weight is too much weight for the ear canal, it wasn't designed to be load bearing. The skin is only 0.2mm thick while the actual shape and diameter of your canal is an important aspect in auditory processing. When you torque the canal it will deform. If you do it over time it deforms permanently. When you put something in that presses against the canal in all directions it will expand and modify the shape. Hearing is complex and it requires conduction. When you gape/torque the canal you can create conductive loss. Perforation in the delicate skin of the canal can cause a perforation which can induce plaque growth under the skin and ultimately lead to an infection of the eardrum, growth and/or disarticulation of the middle ear bones, or worse. This kind of incursion can result in permanent damage to the cochlea and infection of those bones at worst which is extremely bad because there is no immune response to such an infection resulting in excess cell division and ultimately cancer which is an a very unfortunate location (proximity to your fucking brain). And we haven't even gotten into overpressure. When you isolate the way an IEM does it doesn't actually increase the perceived volume by our archaic monkey brain hearing system. The result is most users listen at volumes that are well beyond safe which causes overpressure damage. Overpressure can damage pretty much every part of the ear and not just the cochlea though that is the most important part of mechanical wear on your body induced by cramming a speaker into your earussy and sealing it shut. Simply put if you haven't taken steps to custom mold your IEM to anchor on your concha and under the fold of antihelix like audio engineers do and instead jam a toob into your ear toob anything beyond about 30 minutes is madness. But it is your life, live it how you like.
>>741023740I remember buying my first audiophile tier Sennheiser HD595 two decades ago, and being blown away by the difference. It's never been close to the same experience since then and I even just listen to things with ok speakers most these days.Audiophiles are kinda full of it, it quickly hits DR although ccertainly worth buying some decent ones, whether thats IEMs, headphones, or speakers around the 200-300 range at most
>>741028056>NTA but if you buy a headphone and mic separately you'll get a far better mic and headphones while spending the same amount of money.What headphone and mic combo can you get for under a 100 that get's you "far better quality"? People don't want that quality to begin with. They just want to hear things and say things. The quality is good enough for them.
I use a soundbar.
Always funny when a chuddy starts to discover he's allowed to form his own opinion and make his own choices without internet approval. He's having such a meltdown in the process though.
>>741028278How deep did you push it? Don't tell me you actually did that. It's supposed to rest on the concha.
>>741028278>getting cancer from earbudsWelcome back 4chan
>>741028498I didn't because I'm not an idiot. I only use my IEMs in bursts of 10-30 minutes. For anything else I use headphones. No mass market IEMs rest on the concha, they insert into and anchor onto the canal. This is why IEMs shouldn't be used like headphones.
>>741026537Do I need a DACShould I not be plugging my headphones right into my comp
>>741028639Can you hear a low level hiss when your sound is at a listening volume? If yes, you need a DAC. If no, like 99.99% of people, you do not need a DAC.
>>741028610Maybe you just have unlucky earshape then. That or you're arguing in very bad faith.
>>741028354>What headphone and mic combo can you get for under a 100 that get's you "far better quality"?SHP9500 can be had for cheaper on chink sites and then with the vmoda boom pro it costs around 100 total. That already gets you a decent setup. Or a chink IEM for 20 bucks/a Koss KSC75 paired with a desktop mic. There are lots of options. More than ever before.>People don't want that quality to begin with.Yes, because the average normalfag is fine with a shitty mic and shitty headphones. That's also why they watch shit on streaming services instead of using decent remuxes with good quality like a civilized person.
>>741028639>>741028742Don't even try listening to it if you haven't heard it before. I did and then I started hearing it.
>>741028639>Should I not be plugging my headphones right into my compYou can and it will generally work fine (onboard audio has come a long way). External solutions are better but how much? That is tricky. What you absolutely should NOT do however is use any front panel connectors for audio - ALWAYS go through the motherboard (or sound card if you have one).
>>741028639>Should I not be plugging my headphones right into my compPlay an audio file with no sound or just move to a quiet room with no sound and the headphones plugged in while plugged in. Do you hear noise like a low hiss? While listening to music do you hear any sparky sounding noise at random? If no, you're probably OK-ish. The problem with onboard audio is a high noise floor and interference. Moving the DAC outside of your PC avoids the issue entirely. Even with a cheap Apple USB-C DAC.
>>741028742Nope, so I guess I'm good! Thanks brother
>>741028056the reason why I decided against their new entry level headphones aside from the amp requirement is that some reviews complained about build quality. For that money you can get great planar and if you add the amp to the cost you can get even better ones. The next better Stax model is 2k without amp.>>741028159Not everyone likes harman so you'll certainly find some people who will enjoy them if they aren't coping anyway for spending so much money but audiophiles can be very weird just look at the prices of some cables you can buy. I just want to try them one day out of curiosity but not sure if I'd ever buy some.
>>741028850My MB audio jack is fucked (cat yanked the headphones out right after I built this rig and it hasn't work since) so I've been using the front panel connectorI'll keep this in mind
>>741023740Just buy comfy headphones. That means buy studio headphones because gaming heaphones can't be comfy because they add gimmicks and wasteful weight like microphones. And not all studio headphones are expensive, you can get cheap comfy ones.
>>741028850while the codecs got better modern ones like ALC4080 or 81 now use USB as interface and the realtek driver can be pure shit.
Not an audiophile, my old headphones of ~5 years broke the other day, right ear stopped working, I tried to fix them but fucked them up irreversibly, bought some new Sennheiser ones on sale because I'm mainly tired of sloppy Chinese solder work, the difference in audio quality blew me away though, the bass has such a thud to it, and the overall range of all audio is far greater. I've been sitting for the last 3 days now just listening to all my old music and playing Stalker CoP.Unless you're struggling, honestly the 60 dollar or so price difference is worth it, my old pair weren't exactly cheap, they were some HyperX whatever, but the difference between these Sennheiser and those old ones is crazy, don't buy gaming headphones, they're overpriced crap, buy headphones that people use for audio mixing and stuff professionally.
For me its was my moondrop space travel 2 but the right earbud died recently
>>741029128>>741029234See >>741026730
>>741028639You can probably find a cheap USB DAC if you want to try one out, but the main reason to get one is if you're going into audiophile territory and need an AMP more than a DAC to drive your headphones, and you'd already know if you needed one of those.
>>741028789Well it's not even available anywhere else anymore than on chinksites (if they ever deliver). And yes oh no the poor normalfags. They just consume poor quality media without realising. All that fake happiness and enjoyment. If only I could help them to become like me who cannot enjoy things like I used to because now I must measure everything and only the best will suffice!
>>741023740I read this entire gay thread, why exactly is anc needed at home? What is preventing you from using wired headphones or even speakers? You seem extremely autistic, as an aside.
>>741028910>Not everyone likes harmanThe problem with the harman curve and a great many opinions on it is the people shouting loudly about it haven't ever read any of the papers (when they were public at least) and do not understand what the curve actually is. The curve IS an average of what different genders and age groups like but it is just an average. The papers even broke down how (for example) how much people like bass and treble fluctuates with age (gender also is a factor but not as much).Ever wondered why those super expensive headphones have screaming treble and no bass? That is because they are aimed at middle age and older men who have the money to burn and are willing to do so and that is a sound profile they like. Hand those headphones to a I dunno, 25 year old girl and she'll more than likely hate how they sound.The point of the harman curve is to have a frequency response good enough for everyone or at the very least a baseline for tuning from based on actual research rather than "lol dunno it isn't crisp like mountain water enough" and other audiofool bullshit terminology.This does also mean the people who scream any deviation from harman makes headphones bad are also idiots and have never read the papers as well. Headphones are often built and marketed towards certain groups and that is fine once people realise that. >>741028931The reason behind that advice is inside your computer case it is very electrically noisy and the cables running to the front panel are 99% of the time cheap shit that aren't shielded. The motherboard jack and onboard audio chips are often explicitly shielded to combat the electrical noise. Consider said audio chips are sitting millimetres from a 120w+ cpu and 200w+ gpu and neither gives a fuck about interference with anything around them. Same reason why large electrical sources can disrupt radio signals.
>>741029553>ancBecause it's fairly loud at home and anc works well in practice against it. Outdoors I don't listen to anything at all ever and the sounds don't bother me>wiredPreference + ability to switch between devices quickly, I do it multiple times a day every day>speakersI mean this thread is about headphones, and I prefer headphones
>>741026730just buy ear proc at that point lolI use these badboys at work, they have all the things you mentioned + built in radio
I'd like to get some Verum II's.
>>741030072Anc makes anything you listen to sound like shit, so just get whatever you want.Wireless always sounds like shit, so all the more reason to get whatever suits your autism desires. Speakers would sound the best and most definitely drown out any other sound from the area.
>ancmore like unc
>>741030072Moondrop Space Travel 2, Bose QuietComfort 45(yes, they're unironically pretty good), Focal Bathys. Done, here are 3 options for wireless earbuds/headphones that don't sound like shit.>>741030298I was actually debating getting those since they measure excellent but having no guarantee the guy will actually not fuck me over made me reconsider. I remember he was sperging out over some reviewer not liking his first model and threatened to send him poison or some shit kek.
>>741030581Apparently the guy behind verum has chilled the fuck out to customers by the time he made the II's and they have reviewed considerably better than his first model. I think they look nicer as well.
What about microphone?Budget usb or budget xlr + audio interface combos?
I have a pair of dt770 pros I drive through my computerI have no idea what I'm doing but they sound way better than my previous set
>>741030581I only heard the guy behind the Verums sits somewhere in the ukraine right in a warzone and some redditards complaining about his political views. The Verum 2 were reviewed pretty well from what I've seen.
>>741026730>you're asking "why should I buy audiophile headphones, I like [insert here], again what do I get from audiophile headphones when I lose [insert here]>People give benefits of audiophile geared headphones>You autistically go but that doesn't matter to meJust go buy some normie slop like link below, if you don't care about audio quality and just want something to block out the sounds of the favela you obviously live in its perfect for you.https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0FMF3PT9G/
>>741030827If you are just using it like a regular microphone USB is fine. The XLR ones are intended for piping through audio interfaces for more involved mixing.
>>741030779>I think they look nicer as well.I like the look of the black version of the Verum 2. But not putting the connectors near the front like in the first model was a weird idea. Now the cables bend a bit near the neck, you can even see it on the promo photos on his site.>>741030972I remember some plebbitors seething about him calling someone a nigger but I also remember him sperging out whenever someone reviewed the Verum 1 badly, even refusing repairs in some cases. I heard he chilled out a bit now but I don't know.>>741030827Depends what budget you mean. I have an AT2020 connected to a Focusrite Scarlett and can't really complained. Got the Focusrite used for like 40 bucks since it's a 2nd gen.
>>741031334>complained*complain. Fuck, I'm tired.
>mfw hearing clean bass that goes alllllllllllllll the way down for the first timeAs a fan of music genres that rely a lot on the lower frequencies it was an eye opening experience.
>>741026730The things you like are shit. The things I like are much better.I'm sorry you live in a crack house with niggers screaming all day. Move somewhere quiet.
>>741031334>I heard he chilled out a bit now but I don't know.I was really considered the Verum 2 but his site only allows credit card and no pay pal or other options and I think the shipping takes weeks.
>>741025349Audeze nuts
>>741032131>I was really consideredWell you're not alone anon >>741031462
>>741032131If you live in the US then GR-Research has them in stock and shipping will probably take a few days at most. Otherwise, yeah, it's 2 weeks for making the headphone and a few weeks shipping so you're looking at ~2 months until they arrive.
>>741023740I have HD600s and an AMP/DAC. I get the hesitation to spend decent money but there really is an audio clarity increase. Listening to some of my favorite songs on spotify gave new meaning to them. I wouldn't say it's super important for gaming though. If you live somewhere that has a lot of noise you should stick with closed-back in all honesty, there's some decent affordable ones like Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro or Audio-Technica ATH-M50x. Considering I've gotten at least 5 years out of each pair it's really not a huge cost to spend $150-200 every 5 years but try to stick with closed-back, it's hard to concentrate on stuff when there's noise going on outside with open-back
>>741032587and if you just want a pair that's great for multiplayer and hearing footsteps, HyperX Cloud 2 is cheap and blows a lot of other headphones out of the water
>>741023740I don't every use headphones or buds because of this
>>741032696there was recently a study regarding hazardous materials in headphones and while a lot of them contained something the HyperX they tested were one of the worst
>>741032587>I wouldn't say it's super important for gaming thoughI'm of the opinion what games you play really does matter in regards to audio. A simple example I like to point to are racing games - in any game where manual is superior (which historically is the majority of racing games) having quality audio to pick up engine revs so you can shift gears on sound alone without needing to look at the tachometer is not only quite an advantage as your eyes do not need to leave the middle of the screen it also aids in immersion, particularly for cockpit views where the dials might not be as visible as they would be on a real car.If you play turn based RPGs then needing such precise audio feedback of course would not be so important, though still nice.
>>741023740only reason to buy anything is if you like what it does, and if it does it well. for headphones, you buy em if you like the sound, simple as>TWSanything wireless will introduce latency, which can be reduced with specialized BT audio dongles, especially when both ends support aptX codec which requires no extra configuration from you. oh and there's also the battery life which means you constantly need to charge it every few hoursi use two different TWS buds myself at home and alternate between them so charging isn't a problem for long sessions. though, as with everything that uses batteries, the batteries eventually die and you'll need to replace them.
Yeah, feel free to use only Temu level cheap ass low quality hardware if you want to. Just don't come crying like a bitch later.
Audio is solved by pic, anything else under 4k usd is trash.
>>741032896You can hear revs on even 5 dollaridoo buds wtf bro
>>741033037>t. Sharur
>>741023740Audiophile headphones are not that expensive. Sony MDR or AKG is around $100 or something like that.>I will also not "configure", "adjust", "EQ" anything, nobody does that shit.I don't think audiophiles will either, the sound is meant to be flat.
>>741032896look it increases the enjoyment with better audio fidelity but you can hear revs just fine on shitty $20 headphones man
>get good headphones>crank volume a bit to enjoy things>decide to plays some vidya>choose Black for ps2>first level equip the shotgun to blow open a door>press fire>next thing I know i'm on the floor, cable pulled taught and my forehead is bleeding where I hit it on the bookshelf on the way down>possibly soiled myself as well, will have to check laterThat was an experience and convinced me good sound is worth every shekel.
Just grab these niggas.
>>741023740in +30C? its chinece crap for $5 for me that sound better than any other earbuds ive had
I've been using the same astro a10s for over a decade. I want a replacement but they sound great
