Is it wrong to play MMOs solo?
>>741202189Does it matter?
>>741202189poor cute gamer femcel she's so lonely ;_;
>>741202189Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>741202189>rightnmp
>>741202189It's wrong to play an MMO period. Play something better.
>>741202189The entire point of mmos is the community
>>741202189It is wrong to play MMOs
How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
>>741202470>talks about playing wow "alone">while literally streaming it to a bunch of peoplememe gender
>>741202590gen Z grew up performatively hating on things and preemptively going on the defensive, they hate interacting with one another, they are inherently jaded against online communities. non-competitive multiplayer games will be on a decline from now till gen alpha grows old enough to replace them
>>741202710>>talks about playing wow "alone">>while literally streaming it to a bunch of people>meme genderI'm pretty sure everything she does it just for attention
>>741202189i'm han solo
I play FFXIV and anytime someone in the FC hits me up to play I get really put off and want to leave the FC because someone is trying to interact with me.MMOs are SUPPOSED to be places to connect with people and play together but I'm treating it as a fucking anti-social experience because I'm in my 20s and alienated from my existing friend group that just kind of fell apart and I don't have the social enthusiasm to start over again.So I just want to stay alone. Does that make sense? I can talk to people. I can make them laugh. I can pretend to be having fun, but that's just it. I'd be pretending. It wouldn't be genuine. I don't even want anything out of anyone. I want to be left the fuck alone.Am I the asshole?
>>741202897yes you autist
>>741202897>i'm in my 20shahahaha i know things seem bad right now but let me tell you that things are going to get a whole lot worser.
I play ESO solo because the playstation servers are full of degenerate furfags and ERP goonersOnly multiplayer i do is dodging sweats in the imperial city, occaisonally joing up with another alliance member to gank
>>741202796all I see is a femcel
>>741202189Why would you seek company in an enviroment where every interaction is possibly getting judged 15 years later with completely made up new standards?
>>741202189Why are hyper social people like this, isn't their friend group and community fulfilling enough? Why do they have to seek people they know they won't like and proceed go get mad? Is it the gay chemicals in the chicken?
>>741202470>femcelShe's married and has a kid...
>>741203095>worser
>>741202189for wow classic playing with other people is unironically the best part, joining one guy for a quest then picking up another guy on the way, then asking in chat if anyone wants to do the follow up and having a full party with a few people hopping in and out for a few hours might just be the pinnacle of video games, I think other mmos are anti social by design though, like final fantasy 14 with all the instances and cutscenes
It's not wrong but you have better games to play without having the constraints of online architecture put on the gameplay mechanics.
>>741202189No, I played UO solo all the time and occasionally interacted with other people when friends were available. EQspawn forcing that was mega gay.
>>741202416Well it's a Massively Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game. It's a genre that hinges on you being able to play with other people or at least relying on them indirectly to succeed at your personal goals in the game. It doesn't even have to be for leveling or dungeon running, just economic growth is fastest when you sell to other players. If you just play it solo, why not just play a singleplayer rpg that is designed around being played by a singular person?
>>741202645you can't play dofus solo, you need a group to do like 99% of shitunless you multiaccount I guess
People say you should be sociable but there are people you can meet that are a flat net negative to every metric you can imagine. And you can find them in spades playing MMOs. The home of the terminally online.
>>741203385yes to me (white) and we have a beautiful (black) little kid
>>741203404>accidentally a letteryeah i know. I'm killing myself over it as we speak.
>>741203020How am I an asshole? Genuinely asking.
>>741202189Why yes, I play MMOs like an RTS game, how did you know?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Sri9aPChk
>>741203523Do a flip
>>741203518
>>741203463>If you just play it solo, why not just play a singleplayer rpg that is designed around being played by a singular person?Because single player games usually don't play like MMOs.
>>741203589flip my balls as i slide my cock into your mothers ass, nigger
>>741203463>. If you just play it solo, why not just play a singleplayer rpg that is designed around being played by a singular person?Because they decided to release the game as an mmo, not an SP game. I'm playing it despite it being an mmo, not because of.
>>741203650Only if I can watch:3
Is it really that weird to be zeroed out on social battery your whole 30s? I feel zero urge to talk to anyone. Is it that really so abnormal? To need a reason to talk to anyone? Truly?
>>741203740Why though
>>741203769idk people are mean>>741203705
>>741202189Solo players murdered MMOs.I remember watching that Josh Faggot Heys guy play Wurm, play it entirely solo and then basically say the game was shit.And it's like yeah no shit retard, you played it solo. It's a fucking MMO. What did you expect would happen?
>>741203825Solo players aren't the ones who killed anything. Online there are predators, orbiters, roasties, scammers, trannies, and all manner of subhumans from jeets to nigs.Solo players are objectively right, honestly. They figured it out before you did. Don't be mad at them for realizing there's a higher chance of meeting a retard than a human online.Solo players are just ahead of the curve. They seized control over their social life and are not swayed by public or peer pressure. You are. You lost. Repent.
>>741203825Solo players were around for MMOs from the very beginning, retard. It is NOT their fault MMOs decided to fuck them in the ass after early MMOs proved they could support them with zero issue so they started treating this as zero sum for very rational reasons.
>>741203825The nuance you're missing is that solo players are enabled by their systems discouraging group play. If they are able, they should be soloing.Instead you should be encouraged to find others to play with. If you aren't, then that is a flaw with the game's design.Soloing should be something that crazy bastards do that gains server notoriety. Not tangibly like an ironman mode getting its own indicator or scoreboard just something people talk about, for better or worse. Such things were self-imposed back then.
For a couple years after the big MMO boom one of my favorite forms of entertainment was playing dead/dying F2P(or with free trial) MMOs and just exploring all the dying worlds before they disappeared. It was pretty fun, the only time I really engaged with MMOs as a genre.
>>741203568Heh, I made an addon for that repack. Probably going to be my go-to for playing WotLK solo in forseeable future, it has soul.
unrelated but whats the fattest horde race?
>>741202189My friends quit the games I like and I don't play the games they like, so it's incompatible for me.
>>741202715Are you gen x then? Because otherwise you are "gen z". Gen "alpha" is what teenagers are today.
>>741202189I play alone because my boomer parents are almost always in the next room, watching TV, so they can hear everything I say.
>>741202189No, most people play solo, MMO's are good for meeting new people and interacting with strangers as a solo player. What's actually unhealthy for MMOs are the friendslloppers that hang out in their little private discords and never interact with anyone outside of their inner circle, they're better off playing smaller multiplayer games.
>>741203716Oh baby >;3
I think MMOs sacrifice pretty much every aspect of their quality to facilitate multiplayer between hundreds of peopleSo if you're intentionally ignoring that, what the fuck are you even playing for?
>>741205481Nigger get the fuck out of there so you can live authentically. Or at the very least attempt to soundproof your room.
>>741202189WoW is meant to be played with random strangers and I wish every Hunter and Warlock who solos elites instead of accepting my invite would die raped by niggers
MMOs should get rid off the party requirement for contentI should be able to play the entire game solo and experience all the contentJust make it so that playing the game with friends gives you more rewards
>>741205803Not really. UO was significantly better as a game world simulator than any video game before it. It blew its entire series away on that front and all of the qualities that made it good still applied playing it solo.
>>741203603Nobody plays MMOs for the game feel lol lmao what the fuck is this nonsense
>>741202189Its wrong to sniff utuber farts and bring them here
>>741205935I wish that was true.
>>741205878Retail WoW is slowly working towards that with delves and upcoming labyrinths
>>741205935I have a runescape-shaped hole in my heart. Nothing else plays like it. It cannot be helped.Too bad the game is being run into the ground once again and they will still make big money off of it, both because of people more terminally-addicted than me.
>>741206093>Too bad the game is being run into the ground once againThis is the case for every fucking multiplayer game nowadays. Once one gets big enough the devs can rape the game as much as they want because the diehard whales (the only customers that matter) will stick around regardless.
>>741202189I roleplay as lone wolf
>>741205878>Just make it so that playing the game with friends gives you more rewardsFuck you. Chink MMOs already do this and there is practically no point because of this.Let solo players solo the game with full rewards, it isn't that hard to program an AI for every raid encounter especially when you have millions of dollars in subscriptions every month.
As soon as every fucking person got connected via the internet, they got so used to their echo chambers, and thereby ONLY talking about things they already agreed with. Fast forward to today and it's now pretty much impossible to interact with other people and have a decent interaction that does not just boil down to>[Politics that I disagree with is dumb], am I right?>[Popular game/movie/series], am I right?and most exasperating:>[Meme/reference], am I right?And this is why so many people nowadays chose to "lose the connection to people"
>>741202189MMO were for socializing but since they banned chat there is no fucking point in playing at all.Wait until some chad fucks all these companies with federal wiretapping charges.
>>741203923>Online there are predators, orbiters, roasties, scammers, trannies, and all manner of subhumans from jeets to nigs.exactly. why share my likeness with people i wanna call slurs all day? >Solo players are objectively right, honestly. They figured it out before you did. Don't be mad at them for realizing there's a higher chance of meeting a retard than a human online.i'm not playing with a stranger until i've seen what they look like and what they are up to
>>741206368They never banned chat>inb4 buh I cant say NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER anymore
How do we force these miserable loners to actually talk to people?
>>741202796Looks just like my ex
>>741202189It's not wrong, but it will never be comparable to the full experience, especially for WoW clones.The highs you get from finishing a long prog with your bros is something you only find here vidya-wise. You don't even need to be racing for world first to cum all over yourself after a mythic final boss kill on content.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ybyan3VDWw&t=1010s
>>741205878You should look up Grenada Espada. Took what Guild Wars was just starting to develop with the Hero units but made it essential to your party + family. This system of having extra people under your command always made sense to me. A shame no other mmorpgs picked up on this especially in this day and age of gacha. It's like people who make games are really retarded and do research but do not answer the question. Miss the entire fucking point and come out with a clone.
>>741206708>The highs you get from finishing a long prog with your bros>>>>>long>>>>>>>calling it ""prog""Yeah if you're brain damaged like everyone else in your team that is.
>>741202189i don't play solo, I multibox
>>741207057Concession accepted. I'm sure if you practice to get better and get over your anxiety of making mistakes in front of other people you'll eventually find a guild and get to experience everything MMOs have to offer, don't give up!
>the game starts with a main menu>this is good>you start a new game and you get an intro cutscene>this is good>which is then followed by a tutorial that teaches you the basics of the game>this is good
>>741202189MMO is a garbage genre with only 1 redeeming quality. The social aspect. If you're not gonna be social then why would you want to waste life playing garbage?
>>741202189If you play a game for the "social aspect" then you are a normalfag and don't belong on 4chan
>>741207326RetardGODI don't make mistakes that's the entire fucking point.If only you stop having a defeatist and cuck mindset you wouldn't need to spend an entire month just to beat a raid. Fucking mongoloids.
>>741206153Yes.Even the people who quit like I did, they don't have it in them to quit again. It's not jarring or alien enough to unsettle them like when they threw EoC into Runescape 2. A lot of them will throw a tantrum about how they'd quit again, and they don't. It would take something similar to make me quit too, that's how I know. I hate the direction but they haven't fucked up the foundation enough for it to be completely unplayable. I am incredibly skeptical of new content, especially "high end" content since their standard seems to be actually invisible mechanics that you would need a third-party (cheat) client to see.I simply use a bond I paid with in-game gold, play the content that's enjoyable and move on. My breaks are getting longer. Between the sailing QoL and raids 4 being abysmal/boring I have no curiosities to pull me back in, and for the long-term foreseeable future that is incredibly bleak for something I maxxed and put 10k+ hours into. I have stuff I could be doing there, but I'm growing incredibly bored with those things even when my luck is above average (funny).My interest has shifted into emulating games nowadays and it's been more intriguing to me since I haven't touched an emulator in over a decade. It's nice to play actual video games and not have a nagging feeling I should be working on something in runegame. I finally reached the pinnacle where I understand the bis gear is mostly a meme and the actual mechanics are still cancer so it destroyed the goals I had. I would not have realized this without leagues slop (that has taken update time ironically) that made me engage with specific boss mechanics enough for me to understand and specify the things I hate about Jagex's design choices.Simply put a good chunk of their mechanics are completely invisible, you wouldn't know it's happening without a wiki entry or cheatclient highlights. This litters so much of their content and it ruins my immersion, especially if it's actually hard.
>>741207543Go on let's see those timestamped CE achievements then :^)inb4 "akshually i've never raided because im so good no guild is good enough for me"
>>741202189Its wrong to play MMOs period
>say word>account stolenAnd you wonder why people solo and never interact with one another
>play MMO>other "person" speaks>they prove themselves to be the most inbred gorilla retard to have ever existed>stop talking to other MMO players
>>741207643>ok pull out your dick thenYep just as I expected from your monkey brain. Just turn everything into a dick measuring contest.I don't play WoW I've only played it like >>741203568 so here's a log before I quit the game. I didn't need a guild for this one. I was even making millions from crafting on the side.
>>741207965>tranny trantasy troonteenL M A O
>>741207983>tranny tranny trannyYou missed out the fact that I haven't played the game for years now. Illiterate retard.Cope, seethe, and dilate. Go suck off your ""BROS""
>>741208031stop talking to me hivvie, you are less than human
>>741208056Concession accepted.
>>741207965I could tell you had no idea as soon as you thought it's normal to not have long progs. Yeah no shit, in FF you do the hardest content with random groups you don't even need VC and y ou just follow a strict script, of course you've never experienced the same highs of raiding, it's a cheap copy after all.
>>741208113>progs
>>741202189No, because the alternative is playing with some tranny that'll get triggered because you just happened to do something that sets them off. Next thing you know your account's taken away from you. The only winning move is to play solo so you don't have to deal with those people. Or better yet don't play MMOs, they're all shit these days.
>>741208158Again, you're clueless. Wanna hop on a TOP reclear pf and test that defeatism? :)
>>741202715It's funny that, no matter how much time you'd already have, seeing the folly of older generations berate the young in a baseless manner, we still end up with dumbasses like you that choose to carry on that tradition.
>>741207948this picture is exactly why MMOs need solo play
>>741208248>Wanna resub goy?KEK you can go suck off your bro instead. Keep on coping that you need 4+ weeks to learn a fucking raid.>>741208113>in FF you do the hardest content with random groups you don't even need VCThen explain why 99% of week 1 & 2 clears are only with organized groups with VC
>>741202884https://youtu.be/lg_FoEy8T_A?t=80
>>741202189No. An MMO is a persistent world that is living and breathing because other people also exist in it. It isn't a forced multiplayer experience.
>>741202189ngl the only thing stopping me from trying classic wow is raiding, like what do you mean you have to make arrangements with 39 other dudes to kill some fucker and do that every week for god knows how long with a prospect of not getting an upgrade, because you are not in a guild's clique or just roll bad, or you're a "low priority spec"??
MMOs are made to be played solo if the year you're living in is past 2011.They're designed for solo players, they're designed for you to log in, do your dailies, and interact with people a little bit if you're so inclined then log off.They do not want you playing 12+ hour days. They actually stop you from being able to do so in many cases with timegating, weekly lockouts, etc. They want you to show up, play for a couple hours, then go the fuck away. They don't want you making friends and hanging out, they don't want you exploring.Josh Strife Hayes is a fucking retard who takes bribes to shill games.
>>741208676>Josh Strife Hayes is a fucking retardThat's all you needed to say.
>>741202189no just dont be a faggot about it
>>741208646Well, since it's classic, you examine what we already know in terms of viability and worth for certain specs, pick a spec that isn't complete fucking dogshit, and get prio for upgrades.>I don't WANNAokay then don't, simple as that.Setting up raids sounds harder than it is, there's never really a shortage of groups looking for healers/tanks. DPS have a harder time I guess.
>>741202897>i want to be left alone>im also in a guildpeople like you are the reason everyone rolls their eyes when people start talking about wanting to only play mmo's solo
>>741208640>theme parks are living and breathing worlds because there other people there tooHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>741208436Oh no.. The mask is quickly falling off...PF has been clearing week 1 every savage tier since Endwalker. With the advent of raidplans and world prog being streamed, PF has access to solid strats for all bosses since day 2-3 into the tier, and "prog" in FFXIV is relatively trivial once strats are available.But of course you assumed WoW mythic worked the same way and assumed I was a bad raider, oh nyo how embarrassing...
I've played osrs, tera, ff14 and ff11I have 0 intention of interacting with any of the people that play those games. FF14 players keep bombarding my feed with static drama and witch hunts and that shit gets real fucking annoying. Fuck no. I don't want to nasally spergs who screech, punch walls, smash keyboards, stalk and hack over videogames.
I'm not making any connections with any fucking MMO autists because I just know if I dare to take a break at any point in time because the dogshit genre doesn't respect my sub money and only drops content like once every 6 months, my friends/guildies will kick me from the guild and replace me with someone else.The truth is, none of us are really "friends", we're just stepping stones to advance in a game that forces you to depend on other people. MMOs are a panopticon and the more connections you have the more balls & chains you are attaching to your ankles.
>>741208948deal with*
>>741202189If you want to be left alone, that's your decision.But it is a problem when mmos are actively designed to enable and encourage solo play over all else.In everquest and ffxi, playing solo severely limited what you could do and made what you could do much harder.Even in the original wow, you were a weak grunt and being in a party made all content much easier and faster.I'll never forget ffvix during the stormblood expac when they added eureka.It was slow, grindy, the game wanted you dead and party play was almost a requirement.It was a ridiculous and masochistic waste of probably three hundred hours, and it was the most fun I had in the game to date.
>>741208887>endwalkerOh no I posted a raid log of an endwalker raid! Except I didn't.>more FFXIV vs WoW shitI do not care about your two retard MMOs I am only here to explain that you are a fucking blazing retard that can't learn anything until you've beaten your head into a wall a hundred times over.You're being a /pol/ faggot right now but instead of left and right it's ffxiv and wow.Cope, seethe, and dilate my woman.
>>741202189No it's fine. Most MMO's now cater more to solo play which is good. I have always played WoW solo and now with solo shuffle and battleground blitz i get to play ranked pvp without ever talking to anyone.
Last time I really had fun playing an MMO was around reboot's release in maplestory, started with a /v/ guild then when everyone dropped it a month and change in I joined up with some normalfags and we cleared up to and through lotus/damien, and I stayed playing with them all the way up through black mage, liberated, and quit, along with like 75% of the guild. Most of us still hang out and play other stuff.I don't understand why people try to treat it like games need to be a forever thing, MMOs too. Sometimes it's okay for you to say "I did what I wanted, I'm done, there's nothing more for me to accomplish here, and that's okay".
I've played SWTOR, GW2, Planetside 2, ESO, WoW, FF14, New World, DayZ, GTAOnline. I have 0 intention of interacting with any of the people that play those games. FF14 players keep bombarding my timeline with gpose gay drama and transexual purity spirals and that shit gets real fucking annoying.Fuck no. I don't want nasally spergs who screech, punch their cats, smash their HRT pill boxes to stalk and hack me over a fucking vidyagaem.
itt: we learn why MMOs as a genre have been in a downward spiral
>>741202189I think a good MMO would account for this by having some unique skills/traits that can only be acquired through mostly playing solo, and other ones that could only be acquired through doing stuff with guilds/parties. Certain events/dungeons would require you need both and force solo players to occaisioanlly work with groups and groups to occasiionally work with new people
>post in trade chat "WTS [crafted item from a rare recipe]">you are now muted for 7 days. reason: you were mass reported caused by the local tranny crafter mafia clique>appeal ban>get an automatic AI response telling me the ban stays>appeal ban again and again until it's escalated it>"good morning saar this is Game Master Ranjeetosaurus, have you tried checking wowhead?">stop talking in chat permanently>"why did this anon's autism do this?"
>>741209031Yeah you're talking about games you haven't played in one case in years and in the other case ever at all, you're clueless my man.>can't learn anything until you've beaten your head into a wall a hundred times overLil bro you posted a screenshot of a clear that took 500+ pullsinb4 "i actually just prog-skipped and just joined a clear group and took me about 20 pulls to clear e8s on pf week 2"lmao
>>741202189Only if you're on a private server
>>741209290Yeah but that's a good idea and doesn't involve them trying to milk a trapped userbase.Also it's just very difficult to set up because people will minmax it.
>>741202897Luxcavae
>>741202416FPBP
>>741202416It does if you play online.solo mmo players are a plague that slowly ruin a game. They infect more and more people who think "why bother interacting when no one talks anyway?".
>>741209332private servers are the best place to play solo though. most of the population are third worlders and kiddies whose parents refuse to buy them a sub so why would you want to talk to them in the first place? plus the server could just one day vanish into the ether and suddenly you have nothing connecting you
>>741202189I always did in GW2 aside from tagging along for meta/boss content. Played the game for over 4000 hours that way, and I wouldn't change that (playing it with people I actually know could be nice though). It did make certain content harder when a group wasn't around, but there's always a couple of builds you learn to get pretty comfortable with.
>>741209310>inb4 "i actually just prog-skipped and just joined a clear group and took me about 20 pulls to clear e8s on pf week 2">lmaoIt was literally a completely random group in the middle of the night with no prior clears and no it didn't even take 20 pulls it only took a few pulls, probably 2 or 3 if I remember correctly, didn't even need to make a new instance.>you're clueless, you're clueless, play my game and post proof doing it better than me I must cope
>>741209497When I played back in 2008 until WOTLK, I was already solo. Fuck off.
>>741209605>gifrelThey look like brats
>>741208826Actual theme parks and MMOs require other people to even function.So yes.>why do we need farmers? Mats come from the auction house
>>741202189People are so fucking gay and retarded nowadays that i don't want to play with any of them.
It is not the solo player who is to blame. Communities have become so clique-ish and drama prone, mix in some retarded politics and it is 100% understandable that people would rather play solo.
>>741202189Current games? Yes because its virtualy impossible to catch up unless you have a friend that already plays the game or you pay with a wallet
Playing Fallout 76 alone is better than playing Fallout 4.
>>741210254It's always been that way. Games just started catering towards solo players so you don't have to engage with it anymore to play the game.
>>741209605>took 2-3 pulls to prog e8s week 2 on pfYeah nevermind at this point I'm thinking you've actually never raided in an MMO. I'll never get what compels people that haven't played a game to post online like they're authorities about said game.
>>741203564>pretending to have fun but also being mad
>>741202189>Live life solo>Be contentIf it was a fantasy world as the norm, it'd be the same way. Why is solo play so...alienated all of a sudden?>Signed, someone who leveled Black Mage, Summoner, Beastmaster, and painstakingly poor on gil Puppetmaster from 1-75 solo in FFXI.I don't need people to do my job, until the game forces me to.>OOGH PLAYER DO LESS THAN PARSER ESTIMATE ARGH BLACKLIST PLAYER NOW UNGA NO PROGRESS BUNGA RAAAH PARSERFuck people. Also someone said the interaction comes with retroactive judgment thing. Also true. Fuck. People.
