>Etrian Odyssey with the most fanservice>Coincidentally the worst selling game in the series>Sold even worse than $80 physical edition of hd port
>>741422823Don't blame me, I bought it.But the real reason probably has more to do with the 3DS being cracked wide open by that point.
The fanservice wasn't advertised and story mode is antithetical to Etrian Odyssey, so all that was really relevant to fans were new graphics and arrangements of a game they could already play on the hardware. Doesn't help that Untold 1 wasn't very good and had a bad story mode.
>remakeGive me a new game!
>>741422823Did you forget the part where Atlus was charging a premium for their games and was that they loaded it up with more DLC than any other game, EO or not, up to that point?
I want to fuck Arianna
>>741422908>and story mode is antithetical to Etrian OdysseyUntolds 1 sold very well
>>741423064It was still 40 on eshop
>>741423229Fool me once.
Peak.
>we never got Untold 3 with Arianna finding her fafnir again
>>741422823what's with OP being a faggot 9 times out of 10 on this board? there has to be an explanation
>>741423249I remember everyone calling anyone that bought digital Nintendo games retards and they were right. But regardless, in Japan, Atlus always charged a premium for their games at 6000 yen when most 3rd party games cost in the 4000 yen range, and Nintendo themselves charged in the 5000 yen range for 1st party games. There was a huge uproar about the DLC and everyone making up shit that they were cutting out parts of the dungeon to sell later
>>741423539Why the fuck would I want u2 garbage characters in untold 3?
>>741423854Who the fuck are you? Why would i give a shit about what you want? We literally got a small preview of Fafnir in UE3.
>>741423762christ that is crazy, no way anyone bought that shit over there
>>741423064Atlus games were the only decent titles to get proper discounts on the 3ds.
>>741423762Tranime dungeon crawlers are a dime a dozen and EO is no different. Shouldn't cost more than 30 bucks desu considering how easy it is to develop this kind of game, not to mention the lower production cost.
>>741423903Japanese games have always cost a lot more in Japan relatively speaking. Yeah nowadays 10,000 yen is only about 60 bucks but that's equivalent to 100 bucks for them and minimum wage is somewhere around 1000-1200 yen. Funny that their complete bitches when it comes to piracy though.
NO MORE GAYS
>>741422892I blame you
As if fanservice has any real impact on the sales. Coomers grossly overestimate their economic impact.
>>741422823>>Coincidentally the worst selling game in the seriesbecause coomers don't buy games, they only fap to art.
>>741422823Untold is just badit feels bad to play and was made for people who hate Etrian Odyssey
>>741422823"Fan servive" is trash.Half naked female "warrior" fighting monsters = immersion broken
>>741424705>feels bad to playThey introduced everything that makes anything after including the HD games not complete ass to play though.
But best Etrian Odyssey is objectively A-train tourism
>>741424705Only u2u2 felt great, especially with how monsters became a threat too
I think untold 1 is better than 2.
>>741424920It had some problems like books, but yeah. U1 is peak of EO game design outside of boring og etrian classes
>>741424920The only thing it has going for it is the difficulty. Fuck grinding for Grimoires.
>>741424910u2 was the one which homogenized all bosses into waste of time until the last 30% of their health remains at which point you burst them down
>entire series is built around avoiding the pitfalls of stereotypical jrpg slop>The untold games throw the main point of the series away to appeal to the unwashed masses>they flop because the main players hate them and new players dont care about more generic jrpg slopYou get what you fucking deserve, that's all Im saying.
>>741425271And all I'm saying is that ur a faggot and autist that can't understand that some people like what you don't
>>741425374Right back at you. If you want stereotypical jrpg slop, go play those like Mary skelter, dungeon travellers or labyrinth of refrain or something. EO is not for you.
>>741424910>memorize this 20 turn boss pattern>every bossNah
You're all arguing over what you didn't like about the game just for fun, right? You understand it flopped because the 3DS died the instant the Switch came out, yes? The actual quality of the game was completely irrelevant.People were not buying 3DS games in 2018 even if they came with free blowjobs. This was after Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade 2 were out.
>>741423229Yeah because it was the first. Even though 2U is objectively better, the first remake burned people and they didn't show up for seconds.
>>741422823Play Wizardry Daphne, the fanservice is welcome, and it has sold quite well.
>>741422823Which one is the best to play? With best quality of life improvements
>>741425374Then play the hundreds of thousands of other JRPGs that follow the same boring tropes over and fucking over again and leave EO alone. Fuck's sake, the same devs have the perfect alternative for you faggots: Persona.
>>741426132I love my wife Lulu!
>>741426090>Even though 2U is objectively betterDisgaea level hp bloath is not something peopel want in their eo games, outside of pol touristsStory itself got way worse, with super special fafnir knight and overlord was ruined hard
>>741426541>storyLike I fucking played that gay shit. Yeah HP bloat sucks but Untold 1 is just bad, making 2 better by default.
>>741425573>>741426307>if you like EO you have to like it for the exact same reasons I do or else you're a persona fagChrist you autists are the worst. I like EO games for the game play and mechanics
>>741426691If you like things that are antithetical to the very core of a series, you don't like the series. There are effectively a infinite amount of games that fit what you enjoy yet these retards try to change the few games that are different.
>>741426612>but Untold 1 is just bad...what? u1 didn't had any hp bloat, schizoEtreant>eo 18k hp>untold 22k hpThat's pretty good, considering how many new foe and monsters untold added on the way to him
>>741426691>moving goalposts to muh mechanics nowAnd the untold games fucked that up too with OPAF MC special snowflake classes, Grimoires to patch up story mode locked parties, and retarded boss design so the story mode team doesnt just steamroll them in 3 turns.You tried. You can stop now. It's okay. Go back to persona.
>>741426790Ok so if you can ignore that the games exist, I can ignore story mode and play classic. Letting me play the game how I want to core to EO isn't it?
Anyone else randomly get recommended this?>500K viewshuhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46Ny7gIyf04
>>741426820Work on your reading comprehension.>>741426868Or don't add these things to the game at all? They could've remade 1 and/or 2 without poisoning the well with story mode. Instead they could've added a new stratum, bosses, enemies, a new class or 2, and fixed bugs and called it a day, and people would've loved it. Instead the marred the experience with shit nobody who plays these games likes, like story mode and pre-set fucking characters.
>>741422823Didnt some fire emblem fags try to cancel this artist when he made a petite flat chested character for that FE gacha
>>741427084>Instead they could've added a new stratum>let's listen weirdo on the internet and fuck up game progressionYeah, glad that they made untold 1 instead, lol
i played the first eo game and i did not think it was all that good
>>741427128Nah, it was just redditors crying he somehow made a 15 year old look too child like (he drew her with bigger chest than the chopping board she was in the original game)
>>741427184U1 has a new stratum, so...
Base 2 had by far and away the lowest HP values in the series because they tried to compensate with resists and high def values.2U is more in line with the other games where enemies have hp values that are balanced around your actual output and whatever the boss gimmick is.
>>741426132Isnt that a g*cha?
>>741427735It's an extra floor at the end of every stratum, that's quite different.
Scylla was so shit it turned me off the entire game. Abhorrent game balance.
>>741426864EOU's story mode team is solid but you can easily make teams that are just as strong in classic because U's class balance is almost perfect with only a couple outliers.2U's story mode team is two conflicting archetypes trying to work together and its way easier to make a better team on classic that will wipe the floor with them.
>>741427961yuuup, and thanks to that, it's the biggest and best bloober ever made. From dungeon design, to the feeling of being part of a party, the game is a blast.
>>741428053Scylla was always a filter boss. DS Scylla fucks you in the ass with cry soul fishing and 2U's version is an aoe check fight which is why so many classes have panic aoe breaks or some form of competent add clearer. Even the halfbaked story mode team has drop shot, flank shot and link order 2.
>>741428001And it adds up to a whole stratum.
>>741428134Second dungeon was objectively the worst shit I played a year. Terrible quest design, annoying dungeon and monster design. Burned any goodwill I had left.Doesn't help that dailies take forever and inventory management is abysmal.
>>741428160>filter bossIt's RNG dogshit cancer. Nothing in EO4 or 5 has anything as stupid as that. Scylla should've been hotfixed. Story mode team can't even beat her without dozens of resets.
>>741422823What Etrian game?I thought it was E04 for a moment.
>>741428215>Doesn't help that dailies take foreverWhat? They take 5min max.
>>741428247Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold
>>741428134>and thanks to that, it's the biggest and best bloober ever made. said every sunken cost coombrained gachatard ever. Pass.
>>741428301Thanks.I never played Untold after trying the demo, story mode wasn't what I wanted but I hear it has a regular mode too?
>>741428194Yes, but in terms of progression, you get maybe an extra level from the extra encounters that doesn't really affect you going into the next one and immediately getting fucked up
>>741424307>minimum wage where I live is 3000 yenyikes wtf that sounds pretty fucked upnever really thought about how much games cost there
>>741428336NOPE, it's an objective opinion. It's the biggest budget a bloober ever got, and you see it in every single detail the game has. Japanese Wizardry fans are completely in love with it for a reason.
>>741423613>on this board
>>741428490The artbook is so cool.
>>741428490>NOPE, it's an objective opinionNo such thing. What do you think "objective" means here?
>>741428490>NOPENTA but the fact that actually nobody cares about the game excep a market that's completely brainwashed by mobile games and gachashit should be very telling.
>retarded gacha fag is back at shilling his garbage in EO
>>741428336It's barely even a gacha, I log in maybe once every 6 months and play the new dungeons when they release. Unfortunately, dungeon crawlers are a dead genre so you have to take what you can get.
>>741428490>NOPE, it's an objective opinion.>said the gachatard with a table full of merch and defending fucking dailies grindJust make a new thread if you want to proselytize for your newest waifu gambling phone game. Now fuck off.
>>741428490You have to watch that dumb animation at the end every singe time right? That shit would lose it's novelty in the first 10 minute at best.
>>741428242Its the same cry soul bullshit from ds but with adds, so you bring resistances (or spam barrier) to mitigate her ailment fishing bullshit. Its like how Ketos likes to abuse spout, sleep and so on to get ocean rave to land since it has bad hit.
>>741428490My favorite part is the monster design. This is connoisseur dark fantasy stuff; they got the goddamn Katsuya Terada for it.
>>741428693Look at this! JESAS
>>741422942I bought and liked the first 3.I will not be buying 4-6, because I didn't notice 1-3 came bundled with malware. Seriously, fuck Denuvo and fuck SEGA.
Which are the best EO games to play?I'm kinda considering seeking them out for collectionism purposes but I'm fine with my cracked 2DS too.
>>7414288963, 4, and 5
>>7414288964 and 5 are the best games.Untold 2 (game in OP) is quite good too although suffers from poorer balance. Rest of the games are really dated.
>>741428817The collection initially released without denuvo and stayed that way for two whole days so you can rollback your installed version to that oneAtleast you could 3 fucking years ago holy shit where did all the time go
>>741428931>>741428969Thanks. I've wanted to own a physical dungeon crawler for a long time and I've always eyed either a EO game or Strange Journey but usually both goes for dumb prices today.Sometimes is just nice to own physical things.
>>741428648Not him, but no one actually plays on default speed and it's pretty snappy with fast forward on.
>>741428648nope, it's random, and the animation with each party member changes depending on how high your affinity with them is. Each unique adventurer have their own set of animations. >>741428632It's in the road to it's second anniversary! >>741428215but I loved the second abyss, fun stuff! Beautiful haunting music! Here, have some more fishfolk to remind you of it.
>Complaining about 2U's balance while defending 5'sLmao.
>>741428215It's pretty ass yeah. Thankfully the 3rd and 4th pick back up. There is nothing like the 2nd abyss's arena shit again.
People love to complain about story mode but you can create stronger parties in classic mode in both untold games.
>>741429129Please take your g*cha chilling out of threads for real games. Make your own thread, please.
>>741429249Daphne is more of a real game than Fatlus shit desu
>>741429312Then make a thread clear of any fatlus stink for your gacha
>>741429249uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyusbloober threads are a good time to remind people that they can play daphne and contribute to the popularity of the genre. Daphne has done more for bloobers in 2 years than Atlus ever did in 2 decades.
>>741429312Sounds like you should make a thread and talk about the superior game there instead of this shit thread.
>>741429312Oh, you're the dumb nigger who goes into /wizg/ and shits all over EO for literally no reason when nobody even brings it up, trying to cause a weird rift between the two.
>>741428998They did the same with Yakuza, good thing I bought the 0-6 collection on GOG before that happened. I even bought 7 on Steam without DRM, but now it has Denuvo. Only reason I didn't buy Pirate Yakuza too, despite loving Majima enough to buy a pin.
>>741429438take your meds
>>741429214U1's story mode team is easily one of the strongest ones you can make. Its trivial to beat 2Us.
>>741429312>shittalking the game whose thread you're parasitizingIt's funny how gachatards just cant help themselves.
>>741429670Etrian Odyssey is beyond dead bro. Don't need to deepthroat this hard. Fatlus cares about the series even less than I do.
>>741429738Why did you even enter a thread dedicated to a game you self admittedly don't care about?
>>741428247EO4 was wholesome soul, anon
>>741429738Hell, it's so dead didn't the artist just announce his own knock off version recently? It's never coming back.
>>741429832Because Fatlus fans need to be reminded how much their company hates them.
>>741423613>9 times out of 10
>>741426132>can't run on my phone>PC version has kernel level malwareNo, I don't think I will. Make a normal fucking offline version or fuck off.
>>741429847The artist has always been freelance and has done work for tons of games. Even does porn.
>>741429670Anyone who's an actual Etrian fan despises Atlus at this point. It's been 10 years since EO5. Better buy another Persona remake to fund Next. They're definitely gonna release the game any day now!
>EO finally got a schizo spammerwtf, alive game?
>>741430261N-next Stage status?
>>741430137You still wouldn't throw your hands up and go "fuck it, I'll make my own EO" as the artist if you had any hope of a new one being made. If even the artist has given up it's not coming back.
>>741430392What game did he make?
>>741430392He didn't make his own game. Fucking hell, why do people lie so flagrantly? He recently did work on some dogshit dime-a-dozen Experience dungeon crawler.
>>741430573>Fartlus fan accusing Experience of being unoriginallol
>>741426132I'll play it when they release the offline version a la Mega Man X DiVE or I'll not play it at all.
>>741428253That's way too long>>741429129>go to the arena>go to this NPC go back to the arena>lose this fight>go back to the arena>talk to this NPC>go back to the arena>win this fight>talk to this NPCAnd that's AFTER all the water level shitObjectively terrible design and everyone in charge should be made to roll boulders uphill
>>741430842will literally never happen, the game found it's super niche. It's aimed at 40-50yo salary men (literally, it's in their reports) there is not a single other game like it, be it offline or online. It's the game keeping it's whole company alive after years and years of failures. They'll grab to it 'till they die. And that's a good thing! The game oozes SOUL. The amount of fanart it gets every day is touching.
>>741431030Having a bloober actually having characters was a risk that paid off greatly, people do fall in love with their adventurers in this game.
>>741431029Second Abyss was definitely a step down from first. Guarda was quite good though and has shades of EO's FOEs. Haven't played Abyss 4 yet.
>>741431030>>741431220Cool. Not interested in giving your mobile gacha garbage any money. Now get lost
>>741431220Me in the back.
>>741431242I've got mixed feeling about A4, one one hand it's got a nice comfy snowy aesthetic and it's much easier to farm than a3 was. On the other hand it's got some real fucking bullshit bosses and the general dungeon gimmick isn't nearly as interesting as sentries were.
>>741426541>>741426612If 2 Untold is guilty of enemy HP bloat, then just about every other EO game is, as well. I don't understand this complaint.
>>741431367>real fucking bullshit bossesNothing compares to Guarda's doll boss.
>>741431391You haven't played the other games or you're retarded.
>>741431391...are you retarded?like medically?
>>741422823It's a fucking shadowgate clone, no matter how many tits you slap to it there's a limit to how many people you're going to atract.
>>7414310304me, is elf women
>>741431425The doll wasn't even that bad by the second half of guarda's lifespan thanks to the 2h buffs and general damage creep newer characters have. Meanwhile with a4 bosses you have to count HP to make sure you don't accidentally give them a free action leading to instant death at the wrong time.
>>741431638>Doll boss>100% pure RNG >Bigfoot/Wolf>probably overtuned but had clear mechanics you could try and work aroundAnyway, powercreep isn't an argument because eventually that'll apply to A4.
>>741431430Every EO game starts with your party struggling to survive basic dungeon outings, then you reach the first few bosses and you slap them until your party runs out of TP and you barely eke out the win with the help of inventory items or whatever. Then in the midgame your party starts getting proper skills and strategy builds online and the enemies start melting in a completely different fashion. This happens in 2U, too. My best guess for why 2U has this reputation is that people simply parrot some single fag's opinion from years ago when the game was new and being figured out, or some statistical outlier is in play where a majority of the 4chan-posting playerbase picked absolute garbage parties for Classic mode and didn't realise it was their mistake rather than the game's.
>>741431638>The doll wasn't even that badretard, doll is unironically worse than 2U scylla. pure rng fight, zero skill
>>741431817>You haven't played the other games or you're retarded.Retarded it is then.
>>741431391>I don't understand this complaint.No, you do. You choose to ignore the extremely tedious bullshit gimmicks like sliding ice blocks into scylla or baiting bombs into juggernaut to cope.
What's with the EO threads when there's no new games, did the general finally die?
>>741431935Then why not loudly complain about EO4 bosses having similar gimmicks, too?
>>741431974EO officially died when the Steam trilogy failed to do any noise. We cope now, and play Wizardry Daphne instead.
>>741431391>I don't understand this complaint.You forget that the average retard playing this game must have a healer and tank in their team and then probably a support class and you have a team that outputs zero damage.
>>741431974/eog/ is just reclining.
>>741432042Why would eo chads play f2p gacha garbage?
>>741422823Gooners dont play games
>>741431430>>741431482You never played the games retards>Oh but Juggernaut has twice the HPbecause all the bosses in EOU2 have those shitty puzzles that reduce boss HP to half.
>>741432042Shartlus released 15 year old DS games for almost full price and expected people to reward them for it. Hope the series stays dead and Shartlus goes out of business desu.
>>741432009Because you can ignore those gimmicks and not still not have to spend an eternity to kill them in combat.Following my earlier example, how much HP does Scylla and Juggernaut have in U2? Retard.
>>741432109it's a mistery
>>741432161We already established that you're retarded. Don't have to reiterate.
>>741431974No, we're still alive and don't listen to that anon, we don't talk about that gacha there. The hd collection likely actually did okay and has brought in some new players over the years.
>>741432042>gacha parasite is still tryingLol
>>741432195Just enough HP for beating them to feel like an accomplishment with the average damage output of 2U classes.
>>741432272>slavecattle still coping 10 yeas later
>>741432286>dodging the questionThanks for proving my point, retard.
>>741432234Whatever you have to tell yourself to be able to sleep at night after being wrong. Sleep tight retard.
>>741432180Over full price considering the trilogy should've been the base package. People just saw the $80 price tag and bailed without even considering the already ridiculous price of each game separately.
>>741432161>>741432195Flame Demon, Harpuia, Overlord and several others dont have the hp reduction puzzles. This shit also started in EO4 with Boiling Lizard where you had to weaken it and nerf its attacks to not get bodied during Stratum 3.Besides, Juggernaut also applies a global attack buff on everyone on top of the hp puzzle and everyone generally having high output.Unironically, just make a better team.
>>741432368What is the point of answering the question when the answer is only going to be relevant within the confines of the single game? It's apples and oranges to look at flat HP values when you're never going to have a party full of 2U Dark Hunters with 2U damage calc formulas when playing EO1.
2U is dogshit and the worst game in the entire series
>>741432520>to not get bodiedThat's a lie, you could have fight it at full power and kill lizard just fine
Oh look at that, EO5 is a shit game with bloated HP
>>741432520>Flame Demon, Harpuia, Overlord and several others dont have the hp reduction puzzles. So not only do they have bloated pools, they also take fucking forever to kill>This shit also started in EO4 with Boiling Lizard where you had to weaken it and nerf its attacks to not get bodied during Stratum 3.And it's entirely optional. You cna easily kill it without doing that shit at all. EO4 is the easiest game in the series >Unironically, just make a better team.like the story team that this boss is balanced around!Go ahead mongoloid tell me how many tuens it took your party to kill a fucking 72K hp boss.
>>741431817>>741432057Story Mode is 1 obvious dps, 3 hybrids and a real tank, so its pretty easy for people to build them wrong and do no damage.
mindbroken 2u troon is having a melty
For people who can potentially fall for it >>741432741u2 4th stratum final floor is balanced around 30 leveleo5 4th stratum final floor is balanced around 50(strongest foe is yellow)+
>>741432671>>741432772>you could easily kill boiling lizard on your first visit in Stratum 3You have not played EO4 in years and it shows. Boiling Lizard at full strength is bulkier than everything in the next stratum and its attacks have higher numbers than the nerfed one. On top of that, you dont have access to Bushi, Imperial and you're going to be at ~35ish which means no L40 skills.
>>741433093Killed him at full power during my first walkthrough because I expected rare drop from it
>>741432772>the story mode teamYou mean the dogshit team where Fafnir is a gimped piece of trash for 66% of the game that unironically drags your team down?Classic is running around with monsters like Dark Hunter, Hexer, Troubadour and Beast, Compression Alch, etc. On top of that, 2U sells items that can you can use for any team to bypass Juggernaut's gimmick. 2U's story team was relentlessly shat on for being gimped and unintuitive for new players to use properly.
>>741433301Yeah and I'm the king of england.
>>741432927>Level 30>2U's 4th stratumWhy lie?
>>741433419Why are you muslim?
>>741428415on the flipside both rent and food are far cheaper in japan, especially if you cook yoursel, you only get fucked over on some fruit pricesfish in particular is practically free if you buy it freshly caught and know how to butcher it yourself
10 years later with no games and we still have retards arguing and fucking up threads
>>741433354>for 66% of the gameWait, you mean fafnit becomes the most broken piece of shit once you get to the fourth stratum and if you properly specinto force skills?What's even the point of this act, anyway? Especially since you fucking admit Juggernaut is at the point where fafnir is strong enough to oneshot FOEs.
>>741426061Untold 2 flopped because it had nothing good going for itBoth 5 and Nexus were released after it
>>741428490>It looks like generic no-name slop I would have played on the PSP back then, just with slightly better gwaphix.>The fight was LITERALLY done by just spamming normal attacks, and this is something to brag about, so the actual gameplay is braindead simple.Do gachatards really have such rock bottom standards?
>>741433560>Some people still can't accept the fact that u1 was great>Minority of retards who wanted series to be like disgaea/dungeon travelers, can't accept the fact that u2 was trash
>>741431391The HP bloat meme and resulting complaints about Fafnir damage is just shitters coping with their inability to teambuild. Luckily for them there's a story mode included that streamlines everything for them!
>>741426132Tried it before but already got my hands full with other gacha and I always feel weird playing a gacha when I have access to any of my consoles or PCs so it didn't really have a place for me. That said I dig the concept hard and the first-person presentation is cool as fuck seeing your party members run in from off-screen or congratulate you after a battle. From what I've heard from a friend that did stick with the game it does sound pretty fun/not pay to win and I can only hope that either they make a full non-gacha version someday or someone apes the soul they put into it
>>741433668By the time fafnir finally becomes worth a damn, you were already breaking the game over your knee with a competent classic mode party. Fafnir is comically overrated by retards.
>>741433686uh? Anyon, the game is filled with unique animations for each different spell, skill and attack. Unique spells or skills can have unique triggers developed in combat. Add this to passives and you have a delicious combat system. Nope, if anything, this is one of the best parts of the game.
>>741433560It's really disgraceful that this HP bloat shit still pops up to this day. It wasn't right back then and it isn't suddenly right now. If you want to shit on 2U, do it with some other argument that actually holds water.
>>741433354>Beast>monsterLMAO come on man if you really want to shill U2 you have to atleast try to pretend you played this shit game
2U flopped (and that's a good thing)
>>741433856Some of these are so fucking cool; ignore darkness man missing though, kek
>>741433726Not with atrocious grimoire farming and forced story mode for 100%. EOU2 fixed everything that was wrong with 1 but they went and added a shit ton of DLC to piss of everyone.
>>741433856>>741433953i hope you're at least getting paid to do this because this is beyond pathetic
>nice comfy EO thread yesterday gets derailed by an autist bitching about something he literally made up>comfy EO thread today derailed by a faggot trying to shill his gachaHow is this series so cursed that you can't even talk about it
>>741433807>story mods that streamlines everything for them>fafnir is gimped garbage without force skills for far too long>its very much possible to build chloe, arianna and flavio wrong, which gives you three gimped pieces of shit that do no damage when story mode expects everyone but bertrand to contribute in multiple fights
If we're actually being real, the only good EO games are 4 and 5.
>>741433826Sure thing, bro, whatever you say. Keep pretending force fafnir doesnt snap the game by level 20, it's all you can do.You're certainly not going to tell me how many turns it took your competent team to kill a 72K HP juggernaut
>>741433923You are retarded and ignorant.
>>741434115On what planet do people dislike 3?
This gacha fag is arguing with himself as he's clearly never played any game and is just calling any anon unfortunate to reply a retard with no argument to derail the thread. Now watch him call me a schizo
>>741434051There's nothing to talk about. It's been 10 years. Move on with your life. Shartlus already has.
>>741433956>u2 fixed things, despite being the most hated game in the series while untold was well liked>i bet this is because dlc superbosses, the thing that people liked the most about game and considered to be the only redeeming quality of itretard
>pretending 2U was better than 1Ufalseflag hours?
>>741434182>while untold was well likedStop telling yourself this lie. U2 flopped because nobody liked U1 and nobody wanted to give it a second chance. The sooner you accept reality the better
>>741434149Just say you never played story mode and be done with it.
>>741428391well yeah all of them have the regular mode
>Harpuia eo2>4k hp>Harpuia u2>20k hpPeople will unironically defend this
>>741434171Meh, it has a cool theme but combat is boring. It's probably the game that would've benefited the most from getting an Untold remake but Atlus is retarded.
>first u2 fags blamed pokemon release>now they blame untoldMaybe their game is just trash?
>>741434347>eo2>500 damage is insane>ds eo>500 damage is paltryI wonder why
>>741434347>PeopleIt's one guy >>741431391 who's been spamming the thread after people rightfully laughed at him for simping for the worst game in the series.
>>741434327>Just agree with my lie!No. Im doing this for your own good. Stop living in delusion, it's not healthy. Now face your pain and answer my question, how many turns did it take your competent team to kill a 72K HP juggernaut?
>>741434347gotta bloat those HP values up to keep up with the absurd damage spikes you can do or the boss wouldn't last a turn
>>741434347wow different games have different damage values wowow i need to be mad about this for some reason
>>741434404No one fucking liked untold 1 on release. Why are you lying? Atlus got a lot of shit for story mode gating a ton of content behind it. This is why 2U allowed you to fight the ginnugagap bosses as optional quests on classic.
reminder u2 flopped so hard that u3 was cancelled
>>741434404I think the best part of this thread is the U2 fag arguing the story mode team is trash, without realizing that may also be a reason why the newfags it was supposed to appeal to didnt like U2. I wonder if he has enough self awareness to realize this
>>741434171It was the most liked game on ds, but let's be honest, it's still generic dungeon crawler but with map drawing. HD release really showed difference between it and later 3ds games like nexus, 5 or even u2(which had pretty shit classes too)Monsters getting skills that could actually fuck over party besides rare ones with status, started with 4, and untold greatly improved first game by following same designClasses actually having synergy and tank improvemetns, started later too. With hero being perfectly designed class that could fill any niche without being overpoweredetcSeries really advanced a lot.There a reason why "fans" of other dungeon crawlers, when shit on EO series, usually pick first 3 games to target.
>>741423613Bait posts tend to have the most replies. If you want your thread to survive you must make retarded statements.
>>7414344313 turns. Protip Juggernaut casts a 100% attack up buff on your entire team as part of his gimmick. So that 72000 HP is more like 36000.
Is 5 an unfinished game btw? I've been itching to play it again but the last time I did so I ended up quitting in the crystal caves. Felt like all the story events just dried up and it turned into an extremely generic blobber. Does the 5th stratum get good again or is 5 just a "quit after Stratum 3" type of game?
>>741434819>3 turnsBut of course you'd say that since juggernaut purges buffs on turn 4, then uses a team wide attack on turn 5 if the purge was triggered.Seriously, if you want to defend U2 you have to atleast pretend to have played it instead of this retarded wiki reading.
>>741422823benis
>>741435025this is a Savia board
uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...nyontent?
>>741422823That was a pre order bonus
how do the japanese get away with literal child sexualization?
>>741434916no, it's fully finished and you just retard who hates nice things
>>741434538Good. EO3 is a perfect game and the last good EO game>muh droidGit gud
>>741435146They are just that based.
>>741435154Hey, I loved the first 3 stratums. The third stratum with the undeads was especially kino. Dunno what it is but the crystal caves just felt bland AF. There was almost no story or adventurer "events" in it.
>>741434916Unfinished? No, it's got all the bells and whistles of the average EO game, arguably more since none of the enemies are recycled from older games.Cobbled together hastily after a protractred dev cycle where the original concept for the game was obviously much, much more ambitious? Yeah, yeah it was. The story being disjointed is one obvious consequence.
>>741434347>EO1/EOU9000 HP14400 HP>EO24000 HP19960 HP>EO312830 HP12420 HP>EO415000 HP>EO521542 HPI wonder if anyone noticed the trend between the stratum 4 boss hp and your damage output.>>741434979>Turn 4Nope. Juggernaut does his buff check shit on a later turn. Nice try though.
I just wanted to talk about EO
>>741435129No it was free DLC for a limited time after launch with a few others. Best part about it was actually the bikini armor it gave you because you could slap onto a bear without sacrificing their usual gear and they would take extremely reduced elemental damage while still being physically tanky.
>>741434645What are you even talking about? No, 3 still remains as excellent and usually 1 would be the "target" if anything. 3 is far better than a "generic dungeon crawler" and has plenty of very threatening normal encounters. 3 is actually the first game where they really started to nail down random encounter design, the main thing 3 is missing from newer games is enemy rear lines but it's still solid overall. Class synergy is highly present as well.
>>741435489Japan had to pay for all the dlc. We got each dlc free for a limited period of time.
>>741435462Oh shit, is there a new MiA chapter or have I just forgotten which chapter that image is from?
>>741435497I stopped playing 3 when I picked I think it was the Pirate class and their entire gameplay was spamming a single ability. The skill trees kinda suck ass compared to the 3DS games.
>>741422823I thought the untold remakes were worse sellers.
>>741435497>and has plenty of very threatening normal encountersPeople clearing everything in 3 with auto battle was literally reason why atlus even bothered to start doing proper encounter designs from 4 ownard. Auto battle was literally biggest meme in pre 3ds yearsWhat was threatening?
>>741435586New chapter came out 3 days ago
>>741433859>do it with some other argument that actually holds water.If I want to complain about 2U it's the boost system. You feel really weak without boosts, like your baseline does not feel like 100% going to 150% when boosted it's more like 20% baseline to 200% boosted you can boost and blow your load with all the breaks and kill 90% of boss hp in 1 turn but once boost runs out? That last 10% feels impossible.And that's why I don't like the boost system.
>>741435696Nice, time for some readin'.
>>741435748It's even worse with story party. They do absolutely zero dmg out of boost and almost all the dmg is from Fafnir using his boost mode.
Even though revamps were needed for EO1-3 people wanted new games. Atlus always fucked over the EO devs so that even when new games were developed EO games remained an underfunded experience. The amount of attention the series garnered should have showed it was worth producing a full budgeted RPG. We never even got Untold 3. Fuck Atlus.
I miss Ricky posting.
>>741435883Make sure to buy Persona 4 Revival to show Atlus we still want Etrian Odyssey! :^)
>there no persona q undub ciaSuffering
>>741435856What? Did you built Chloe and Arianna as pure supports or something? Even back during release, everyone was shilling Ailment Slash and Link Order.What I dislike about boost is how much it makes or breaks classes. Ronin is utter ass because it has a bad boost.
Want to request fortress x landshark yuri porn, but can't decide who should be the top
>>741423064I bought the remastered version but couldn't get any of the DLC because my copy was imported
>>741436147If you meant the HD remasters, you are supposed to make a separate JP account on your system, download the DLC with it, and then your main account would have access to it.
>>741436061pretty sure there isI played all the etriams undubbed
>>741435663I don't think you've played 3, you might be thinking about 1. Off the top of my head, you've got the Lynx, giant birds, big fish head guys with strong lightning, the turtles, and many more. >>741435612Buccs aren't the best designed class in 3 but using that as a basis to judge all classes is silly. They should at least be using Eagle Eye in addition to whatever attack skills you go for. They've got strong limit building abilities as well and can frequently use limits.
i like this game
