The true Nerevarine
>>741448175Nope, it's a Khajit
>>741448175where did you get this picture of me?
>>741448913look behind you
Soon
>>741450254damn bro u fucking ugly
im not a big fan of argonians
https://youtu.be/eZEYi7047pQOpenMW 0.51 is here
nah, beast races are basically npcs that are not important and never will be important.
>>741448820Still a farm tool
>>741448175The sole, canonical version
>>741448175NEREVAR GUIDE ME
i love morrowind but the art direction is fucking atrocious, i don't think i've ever looked at an uglier game
>>741448820>Nope, it's a Khajit
I never play beast races because not being able to wear certain armor is gay
TR and PT are gonna steal the spotlight again
>>741455059based
>>741448175>always give up around level 10>try to play it again>Decide to not get the strider to Balmora>Actually got lost following what I thought was the right path to BalmoraMy fucking sides
>>741450546What's this?
>>741456569Tamriel Rebuilt next expansion, Poison Song
I wanna do a new character in Morrowind to coincide with OpenMW plus the new TR buildWhat'd be a fun unusual thing? Last one was already a Thiaf.
>>741448175>Nerevarine: Argonian>Hero of Kvatch: Orc>Dragonborn: KhajiitThis is canon.
>>741457637>Nerevarine's wife: Argonian>Hero of Kvatch's wife: Orc>Dragonborn's wife: KhajiitFTFY.
>>741455549>Tentative release date for Poison Song is August 23TR's gonna steal the show, aren't they?
>>741454294why
>>741457637>Eternal Champion: High Elf>The Agent: High Elf>Nerevarine: High Elf>Hero of Kvatch: High Elf>Dragonborn: High Elf>Vestige: High ElfThe true canon, mancucks need not apply
>>741448820khajit is the perfect balance of irony, narrative potential, and lorefulness
>>741455385Perhaps you'd like a dogshit pauldroncore or uninspired copy/paste of medieval armors and styles?
I wanna impregnate Argonians
>>741455385Have you tried looking at Oblivion?
>>741458474Why do all these TR concepts look like the most retarded clown suits imaginable
>>741459121Still looks better and less mold filled than Morrowind.
FUCKIN' LIZARD BITCHES ON THE DOCKS ARE FACING INCIDENTS MY PRECEDENT FOR IMMIGRANTS IS INDIGNANT AND MILITANT YOUR DEPORTATION IMMINENT WE'RE KICKING IN YOUR TENEMENT EMPIRE SYMPATHIZERS GETTING STOMPED RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT
>>741459173Because that particular artist is clearly heavily inspired by that one Final Fantasy guy who loves drawing everybody wearing lots of layers of jester-looking colorful cloth
>>741459173Trying to look like Morrowind concept art
>>741459231NWAH HEIL ULFIRC
>>741450546cicebro is reacting to a gif of two men kissing. this is really funny
>>741459271You mean the one that still drew normal things?That is a fucking retard's idea of what FF art was like, some people shouldn't be concept artists
>>741459173It just looks like Kirkbride's hyper-detailed style but with more colors
>>741459173Because it's more interesting than just generic human clothes variants. Especially since they live in very different environments.
>>741450546>>741456569>>741457254you're not slick
>>741459187faggot
>>741460889Those clownsuits are not practical for ANY motherfucking environment, plus if you think Argonians would care about fashion then you completely misunderstand Argonians
>>741461727
>>741459173you just think that because you're a philistine burgercunt
>>741462130What's so impractical? And traditional costumes are more than just fashion, you filthy golem.
>>741455385the art direction is like Morrowind's strongest point you actual retard
Of all of the uncslop games out why is this one singled out?Is it because you can mod it to be more like the later games while still being technically uncslop?It is no better or worse than the other 10 or so uncslop standards discussed on /v/.
>>741462310>What's so impractical about a person wrapping his entire head in rags to the point that he can't do anything except breatheYou are one retarded fucking nigger
>>741462385I don't think Morrowind is that bad. It has some decent points.I don't think some scribbles are the best thing about it. Not by a longshot.
ENOUGH WITH THE LIZARD SHIT
>>741462624you're a tasteless idiot. many people are, the majority in fact.
>>741462438because it's really good >no better or worse than the 10 other...it's the best in its genre ever made And ya the modability is a huge feature of Bethesda games.
Casual reminder that your average Argonian is literally a sleeper agent of the Aedra and will have their DOOMGUY protocol activated when needed
>>741462438Morrowind is one of those games in the vein of STALKER, Riven, Fallout 1, Oddworld, etc., where sticks to its own creative vision and yet it treats the audience like adults instead of retarded children. That's why it will always be a timeless classic.
>>741463454Only in cases of demonic invasion, which has happened at least twice now if you count ESO as canon.
>>741463454>of the AedraNot in the slightest. The Hist are, if anything, more aligned with the Daedra both in canon (where they have a "cousin" species in Oblivion and worship Sithis) and in Kirkbride/PTR lore (where they fight a war against the Jills and generally seem to hate Akatosh and linear time)
>>741455059do Narsis and Old Ebonheart run at 200+fps now?
>>741463454the project tamriel niggas already decided that's not the case at all in their lore and the most the hist can do to influence the world around them is sending the argonians visions through the sap, which they then must interpret, and changing shit about the environment the way real trees doit's an understandable storytelling decision when you think about it since there's really not much room for conflict in black marsh if the hist can just fix anything by directly puppeteering argonians, and it clashes with the lore of the dunmer successfully cutting down all the hist in what is now southern morrowind and oblivion's portrayal of the hist
>>741463813Writing wise, Argonians who all just tree robots just isn't fun to actually interact with or write for, just about. So if you're going to DO Black Marsh, rather than just have it as an opponent or background element, you need to tamp down on the trees.
>>741455549the chick that does 2d art for skywind is OPnot simping but she single-handedly elevates it above all the others
>>741464165Too bad everything else about its art direction is ass.
>>741462130No, I posted that example of how flashy reptiles can naturally be, why wouldn't clothes develop in a similar way?What you consider clown clothes would be very similar to colorful lizards, with spikes, frills, scales, etc.
>>741463896>who all just tree robotsThat's not even the case anywhere beyond fanon. It's one of those things that get regurgitated endlessly by secondaries because TES lore discussion online is basically a giant never-ending game of telephoneArgonians should ideally be an actual people with an actual culture built to optimally defend the intelligent trees, not literal extensions of the sapient trees, because that's boring. Even in Kirkbride's vague blogposts, which is probably the closest Argonians ever get to being Hist puppets, they're described more as pathetic sycophants competing to please the Hist rather than non-sapient servant bots
>>741460889>>741464419nta but the real issue with those Argonian clothes are simply that one, they're shit for living in a swamp, and two, the Argonians are primitive, semi-nomadic, and as a rule most don't know how to smith metal or process material beyond a primitive state. They wouldn't have the infrastructure or tools to make super fancy European or Persian court clothing, never mind how miserable it would be to wear that shit around.
>>741464616It looks like significant amounts of those clothes are made up of flowers, plants, and scales.
>>741464616The problem is, in Morrowind body customization isn't a thing at all and you quite simply can't have clothing that doesn't cover the entire torso due to how armor works, so they literally can't just have Argonians be primitive naked or half-naked ooga boogas unless you're willing to have them all look the same until you get close enough to look at their heads>most don't know how to smith metalNah i don't think that's the case, in Morrowind Argonians wear metal rings and chainmail on their horns and frills as "hairstyles" and Argonian NPCs describe themselves as using steel to fight foreigners, and in Skyrim they are specifically shown and described as being good at making jewelryI think PTR's plans are to have the Argonians be good at working soft metals like gold and silver because of the kothringi or something lol
does TR have any questlines that unlock like... distinguished merchants with large gold supplies or something? I think it'd be cool if I could put my super high value items up for auction or something, or some vendors who you need to do stuff for before they'll buy from you but will buy specific categories of very expensive items.
>>741459436thank god this chud is on the TR teamwho knows what gay bullshit he's shot down
>>741448820https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdWCeRP3oY
>>741459436i can't understand what the toma retard is trying to say
>>741465267He's kinda no-fun-allowed a lot of the time. Like he's pretty obviously down-low right leaning but on the other side he's also one of the guys who wants TR to stick as close as possible to vanilla and hates when quests get creative, have more content, or do more than vanilla.
>>741465540Surely there's other people on the team that temper that part, right? Even still it's probably a good idea to have a hardline purist on the team.
>>741465918Of course, and there's more than one person who generally goes along with him but isn't as diehard (eg. Pickles.) Just warning people away from oversimplifying it down to Cicebro being 'their guy' just because he's not lefty.
>>741458474I like the one with his head covered by a scarf, he looks like he’d be fun to smoke with
I fucking love morrowind bros
>>741448175Shut up and post Azshara porn.
>>741448175THE John Nerevarine, Moon and Star Marine? What an honor!
>>741459173I like it
>>741466156wrong franchise bro
>>741459231FUCK THE MAGES GUILDFUCK THE FIGHTERS GUILD
>>741448175>>741448820A reddit gold for you, kind strangers.
>>741464165Link to her work?
>>741466483He has a point.
Trheads how do you guys rank the TR thieves guild questlines because I heard good things but I've been a little disappointed so far >Bal Foyen >starts off really strong with building the team and opening the hideout being generally fun things to do in rpgs, but it really subverted my expectations in a poor way >your hideout is the most conspicuous building overlooking the entire city and visible from every angle, npcs constantly reference how they've thought the thieves guild was back as they've kept spotting people coming and going/lights on at the dwarven ruins, there's a quest to attempt to shakedown a guy for protection money and he tells us fuck off because we're too weak compared to the camonna tong (and we are, we have 5 members) >when that quest started my interior rp brain was like I'd never want to do this when we're so weak and exposed, but you don't get that option you just have to confront the guy (this quest is probably entirely optional, but still) and tell him we're back in business and want to extort him. It just felt like something very stupid to do given the circumstances and there wasn't an alternative, so at that point I thought everything was setting up to us being massacred and that being the reveal >what actually happens is nothing, the Ctang don't put up any kind of a fight and for some reason allow you to confront their leader alone in their own manor and the leader then just gives up for no reason and says we should make a deal. Very underwhelming and nonsensical Then Almas Thirr >it was good, setting up the Camonna tong for conflict with the Ordinators and sabotaging their operations was nice, the reward was nice, I liked it For some reason I thought this was an Almas Thirr quest, but the one where you have to free the enslaves schooma alchemist from the Camonna Tong was a cool premise but the gameplay execution being >bribe one guy and he (and everyone else) lets you walk this mafias biggest asset out the door
>>741466467fuck, what's the dunmer bitch who has the huge reuseable soulstone? Post porn of her.
>>741467052>Old Ebonheart I'm not finished with this one yet but the zany writing and GOT reference I do not really appreciate. At the beginning when he gives you the codeword for the boat I figured right away that was stupid and some sort of setup so I wanted to get the ring or whatever through some other method but all you can do is talk to her and trigger the reveal - being captured in this way I don't think is good for an rpg quest. Reduces player agency and is way too cinematic and staged, to me, but whatever. The next issue I had was all the quests you start getting are fulfilled in either the building immediately adjacent to the questgiver, or two doors down. At least make me walk to the other side of the town, but no cpn fentus is right next to the bad guys, and the girl you need to relieve the debt of is one house away from her creditors gang headquarters. The nord you rob lives three doors down. I really found this stupid and I didn't notice it in any other questline I've done in any part of Morrowind so far. I do still like these questlines because they're fine, it's Morrowind, but ya it's been somewhat disappointing.
>>741467052I crashed out of the Helnim Thieves Guild Quest (techincally firewatch) where you had to infiltrate the headquarters of the wasabi(?) merchants. 2 back to back 100 lock doors on a no magic thief is hell. I think the thieves guild quests are probably their weakest honestly, partially because MW's stealth system sucks ass.
>>741467069
>>741467269ya okay and this is my first attempt at a thief character and I'm using magical lockbreaking and stealth (though I did recently get my sneak skill pretty high from training) but the base stealth system of Morrowind sucking is a hindrance for sure. I found attempting to do the thieves guild quests pretty difficult on lower level characters, like the one in aldruhn the first quest you have to go to the vacant mages guild and open level 75 lock. With wild-open this is really easy but I didn't know about that spell then, and it feels weak to have only one specific spell from a school of magic and not actual thief skills be the only gameplay factor. of course i could also buy one of those 100 lock spell scrolls, so this is a skill issue, but i did find it sort of weirdly hard to complete a lot of the thieves guild quests on low level. Stealth gameplay is like OKAY for thieving, but ya sitting in a spot around a pillar or directly in sight of someone and levitating their stuff around it's all lacking for sure, but I think they could still make better missions, and actually just going out on your own and trying to steal as much as possible is fun... but not as fun as it was in oblivion >one of the very few wins oblivion has vs morrowind
>>741448175Boa tarde, amigo.
>>741448175snek
>>741448175Zoomzoom here, do I play vanilla or openmw for this unc game? Also, are there any skyrim modlists worth for a reinstall? I was pretty bored out with skyrim's gameplay and world.
>>741467431>>741467269actually you know what i take it back, having the early thieves guild faction quests be very difficult to complete without more game knowledge that someone just starting out could reasonably have is a good thing actually, it's kind of cool to me to think the quests being difficult to complete could make them feel a bit more obscure and technical than other major factions fits, to me, with a thieves guild faction
>>741448175The emperor sending an Imperial spy to become the Nerevarine always makes me laugh.
I have a question as a retard.Why do a lot of guides advise 2 melee skills? Surely just taking one makes sense and maybe marksman or destruction for range.
>>741467894One consistent character trait of Uriel throughout the entire series is that he strongly believes in prophecy.
>>741468271I am also new to the game but my impression was that actually optimal builds meant not taking any of the skills you actually want to use as majors or minors so maybe the guides are just recommending a few options for flavour or flexibility. I can't think of a point in specializing in two, but if you want to play a pure martial class, there aren't even that many skills that are useful that you can pick really, and from a roleplay perspective it makes a lot of sense your character would be familiar with different types of weapons to varying degrees
>>741467894*Sending a prison born under a certain star to take on the dual role of being both a potential incarnation of a chimer war chief and Imperial agentafter the simulacrum, uriel was doing everything he could to stop the empire from crumbling, including essentially throwing shit at the wall
>>741464419You're fucking retarded.
>>741465267>>741465374
What's the most fun/interesting build you guys have ever put some time into, what were the RPG fantasies and what supported it?
So are there any major mods built for oblivion remastered? Or is that dead in the water?
>>741455059okay but Poison Song when?
>>741463813Friendly reminder that the point of TR and PT is to develop the world as it existed based primarily on Morrowind era sources and not use Skyrim/Oblivion/TESO lore
>>741448175TLD
>>741470374Dead in the water.
>>741470524August
>>741468271I thought you said guild for a second. There's no reason to have multiple weapon types iirc there isn't even a slash vs blunt damage type system. You don't need to game the level up mechanics either, so you should pick your chosen weapon as a major to level it up faster and actually hit things.
>>741469145I made an imperial cult pacifist that used both calm (when I played on OpenMW, 1pt was enough to pacify anything) and damage strength spells (permanently immobilizes enemies) to kill as little as possible. Damage strength was for creatures. The calm setup on humanoids involves hitting them with calm, then running up and spamming Intimidate on them, which permanently lowers their fight score. This makes it so they're permanently non-hostile, though their disposition will be low. Sadly, there was barely any secret dialog aside from that one vampire that's secretly a master trainer for some skill.Another one I did was making a custom bound spell that summoned a full suit of armor and spear for 20-30 seconds, and then I'd just run around in normal clothing. Since my encumbrance was near zero, I had maximum move speed and spears have extra range so you can kite anything. I never run heavy anything on Morrowind because the entire game involves walking around so you don't want to be even slower.
>>741448175worst N******** ever
>>741455549We could've have had Roscrea by now god damnit why'd these autists start over? Fuck!!!!!
Is it true that they removed the big scar across summerset in their planning documents and tried to undo all the cool things they had planned for the fallout from numidium's march across the islands
>>741471368All those Beyond Skyrim projects are likely never coming out anon. It's healthier to forget they exist.
>>741455549>skyblivion not on itthat means it will be out by then or soon to be out after it
>>741464616Argonians already wear normal human clothes in universe.So the issue of whether they would or would not wear clothes is already settled, the least they could do is make them interesting and distinct.Because whether you like it or not or you think it makes sense or not they do wear clothes already.
>>741455549is skywind the one that's way way off from coming out or is it skyblivion?I remember one being a lot worse off than the other>>741471368>>741471523yeah there's been basically nothing from the beyond skyrim team for ages, I have probably the least faith in that one compared to any of the other large tes new lands mods
>>741471482I think they're still discussing it, There's also the activation in Elsweyr which I haven't heard anything about removing it.I doubt the change will stick in any case, it's too good of a concept to waste and the assets could be used in 3~4 provinces.
>>741471617Skyblivion is supposedly this year. Talk about a sacktap for those guys with the remake.
Do we know the major skills of House Indoril for Poison Song? Trying to plan out my character ahead of time
>>741471617the beyond Skyrim teams made the disastrous decision to make it a one time release instead of releasing it in chunks like TR/PTR.I have no idea what went on in their heads to think that was a good decision. It actually astounds me, that one decision alone likely tanked the entire project.
>>741468335it makes him a really intresting character in that he's one of the few confirmed to have met multiple insane ubertalented demigods driven by fate, so it makes sense he's keeping an eye out for people like that
>>741471696Ahfrankly with with the remake being iffy, it makes them look a lot better than I expected them too once it released
>>741459173>>741462130>why do humans always have to wear colorful impractical clownsuits? This shit would never happen irl especially not for an isolated tribalistic jungle/swamp culture.
>miracle my interpretation of this quest dialogue is i should be able to give them both divine intervention scrolls. if i cant im sad again
>>741470374the remastered is trash and will be obsolete once skyblivion is out
>>741471582If you read the Argonian Account, a distinction is made between Imperialized Argonians and ones who are still 'native'. Of course Imperialized Argonians wear Imperial clothes, but what about jungle ooga boogas?
>>741471825Then why did they do bruma anyway?Also you'd think they'd have seen the runaway success of TR from its structure and try to pivot. The fairly regular TR releases has invigorated MW discussion and community in a way a lot of mods dream of, it's its own little world. Granted, it's a bigger fish in a smaller pond of MW modding vs Skyrim but still, new lands are pretty rare in skyrim even today and another small chunk would go a long way.
>>741471697Axe and Medium Armor innit?
>>741448175Azura is totally a bad dragon/barbed enjoyer, right?
>>741472067I don't know, it's genuinely baffling and I firmly believe that one decision tanked the entire collective project.Most of these guys are just in it to grind CVs, I think, so they don't actually care if it ever comes out.
>>741472084guess that'd make sense considering nerevar's axe
>>741472239>Most of these guys are just in it to grind CVs, I think, so they don't actually care if it ever comes out.I mean, wouldn't it have to come out for them to really be able to show their work off? Though I guess they could always just show off the assets they made rather.
>>741472224Maybe...
>>741471368>Project Leader quits when 90% of everything was done>"Let's start all over"Has the original plan for Roscrea ever leaked?
>blue goblinAlma is best!
>>741462686boa tarde amigo :(
>>741473624>got killed by this thing >>741448175lel
>>741473745>has her last follower killed and only artifact corruptedKeK
they designed such cool characters for this game, nothing even comes close in later TES games and there's no excuse for that
>>741473624>Cheater who backstabs her husband>Twice>Best
>>741473624>>741474370>Unofficial history has her being seen fucking Vivec>Vivec's offhanded comment said he didn't but he saw her getting frisky with Sotha SilLel
You do worship Azura, right?
>>741475076I can ge some use out of the helmet.
>>741475626of course
What mod lists do you guys recommend?
>>741470360What is this from?
>>741476336PTR.
>>741466483unbothered
>azura curses the chimer for the actions of their leaders and makes their skin dark >she is now a dark elf herself ???
>>741476712She is with her people in mourning for Nerevar.
>>741476757why did she love nerevar so much?
>>741476794they banged, ok?
>>741476794We can only speculate.
>>741476794Nerevar is supposed to be the mortal son/avatar of Boethiah. The better question is why is Boethiah nearly completely absent. She is a shit mom
>>741454294Same. Scalie fags are the worst.
>>741476949In Morrowind I'm pretty sure it's meant to be metaphorical, sort of a "Nerevar is alike to Boethiah in spirit/takes Boethiah's lessons to heart because of the strife he threw himself into and the plots he enacted. Boethiah is cast as the divine prince of the Dunmer and Nerevar became this in literal material fact." deal, but ESO treats it as literal.
>>741477173>gets schemed on and murdered as part of a PLOT >has to be brought back to life because the scheme was seen as bad for some reason how does this jive with being metaphorical Boethiah
>>741477258There's a theory that Azura, being the prince of prophecy, knew they'd do this all along and actually utilized their treachery on purpose to buff Nerevar even further as the Nerevarine.
>>741459471Not a big fan of his style in general. Looks like a French fashion catalogue of watercolor illustrations encrusted with barnacles and dolphin penis shaped spikes.
>>741467264OE TG is getting that first quest cut for being retarded, along with many other improvements that will no doubt drive reddit insane
>>741476461Do they plan on having Nocturnal show up during a quest? Exciting
>>741477741That design is for Nocturnal's Nocturnals, her signature Daedric servants. Confusing I know. Like the Winged Twilights for Azura or Dremora for Dagon.
>>741476069idk
>>741480984Imaging throwing an Ebony Dart at the balloon.
>>741464165>chick>Press X to Doubt
>>741448820A cuddly khajiit girl that got to have hand holding lovey lovey sex with azura
>>741471368>>741473589You are thinking of atmora. Roscrea is actuslly very close to completion still and probably the furthest along of all the beyond skyrim projects (or at least the least amount of work left to do, its a smaller project)
you are Anhassi’s very special friend anon
>>741471973... impossible? really? I can't just like... hand you a scroll of divine intervention that I chose to bring in order to do that?
>>741482239Never finished that questline, but there should be some magical safelocks against using teleportation magic. Like in anvil or dagoth ur.
>>741482695I dunno, you do that on the priest in the ministry of truth and I feel like that would be a place there would be safelocks against teleportation magic. I don't think those really exist except Dagoth can do it because he's very powerful
>>741458647I know you're shitposting but isn't The Agent "canonically" a High Elf?
>>741448175Seems legit. I'm pretty sure my first Morrowind character was argonian.
>>741457762You mixed up Nerevarine's and Dragonborn's wife
>>741483249Closest we have to an official depiction of The Agent is the hooded brown hair dude in pic related, and retroactive general principles show the 'marketing protagonist' shares race with whatever province the game takes place in ie Dunmer Nerevarine, Imperial Hero of Kvatch, Nord Dragonborn. So The Agent would be a Breton.>inb4 the Iliac Bay has Hammerfell tooThe game's called Daggerfall. You will spend 90% of the plot around Daggerfall, Wayrest and Direnni Tower.
>>741484006I see, i remember some shit pointibng at the High Elf guy running thing after the king's death in Ovlivion possibly being The Agent, but i was likely misremembering heavily, i havn't played Oblivion in like 5 years after all.
>>741484273Some people like to headcanon that Arena's protagonist is Chancellor Ocato because TES1 ends with the Emperor going "from this day forward you'll be by my side" then he's utterly forgotten about by the sequels. Meanwhile the Ming the Merciless looking dude from Daggerfall's intro, next to the Emperor, is Ocato who then reappeared as an Altmer in Oblivion.
>>741484503I see that makes a lot of sense, thank you.
>>741471825>I have no idea what went on in their heads to think that was a good decisionOverconfidence. Keep in mind the decision was made by the original team back in like 2013/14, those dudes are loooong gone. Same way Rebelzize, Skyblivion's lead, said in a recent stream that he was a retarded teenager when he started the project and he really didn't know just how long something like this would take.So some 17 year olds back when Skyrim was only a couple years old itself thought it'd be totally cool and radical if they made a mod that recreated other provinces inside Skyrim, and because they're totally cool and radical they'd put the work in and do the *entire* province! Fastforward a decade+ and only in the last couple years have the teams realized that was a huge fucking mistake. Far as I know, Roscrea and Cyrodiil will release the whole thing, the former because it's small enough (an island sorta like Sosltheim) and the latter because it's the closest to the finish line (still not coming out before 2028 as per the devs themselves). Then other projects are starting to look into the idea of releasing in chunks, Tamriel Rebuilt style, starting with the Bruma style pre-releases (Three Kingdoms for Iliac Bay, The New North for Morrowind). Still, don't expect it anytime soon, and that's hoping their tranny Discord politics don't bleed into the writing or setting (as in, as far as I know the Morrowind team has literal trannies as devs).It's just my luck that the coolest project, compared with the remaking of games that already exist and can be played, is the one stuck in dev hell for a fucking decade. Fuck me.
Dunmer women owe me sex.
>>741453867bethesda should had put a check on when the expansion starts.
>>741485890Funniest thing is how they somehow never learned. You sleep in the Seyda Neen basement and a Dark Brotherhood assassin attacks you. You're leaving the Imperial Prison sewers and a dozen ancestors magically gift you the deed to a dozen different homes, and the Anvil chapel is immediately destroyed. Every Skyrim guard has heard they're reforming the Dawnguard, and five minutes after killing your first dragon Miraak sends cultists against you. Bethesda is so afraid of players having to work for their content that they trigger every expansion, even the ones that narratively should be epilogues like Dragonborn, when you're level 10.
>>741459367they look nothing alike
>>741485890They actually did, DB won't attack until you reach level 6 in Xbox version
>>741460889When everyone's super, no one will be. Weird places like Morrowind stand out only if other parts of Tamriel are more normal. DUDE KIRKBRIDE LMAO for every location is boring and weird for the sake of it.
>>741459053>>741459121>>741462718Morrowind and VTMB were only 2 years apart, and Morrowind had x10 the budget and devs
>>741486213Good thing TR focuses solely on Morrowind then
>>741486213If there's any location that should absolutely be just as weird Morrowind, it's Black Marsh
i wish i could erase the 600 hours i have on Morrowind and reexperience it again. I hate that i did literally everything in the game/ Are the mods any good?
Morrowind belongs to the NORDS!
>>741486224ok
>>741467052i only did a short playthrough of old ebonheart questline and it was fun, lots of opportunities to learn the city's layout and merchants
FULL TELVANNIS REWORK WHEN
>>741476794He was a pious and capable leader for the race she cared the most about, looked in the face of ultimate power and said "no, we shouldn't be gods". Like the rest of the daedra, she's a fickle god and easily susceptible to having her ego stroked and Nerevar went above and beyond.
>>741488284Boethiah appears as a male to the Dunmer though
>>741489370>Boethiah is a reverse trap
>>741458474https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOCaqgzpmM
>>741455059is there a mod that fixes the combat yet?
>>741490326I don't know how much in good faith you are asking that question, but I did make a combat mod some months ago.https://rentry.co/Mmm_morrowind_mods
>>741481524>tes post-skyrimMight be a legit woman
>>741455385Characters and weapons aged like milk, the art direction for the world itself aged like wine.
best sneak mod???
>>741476069Nipplez' Massive Rebirth minus any MWSE mods because OpenMW
>>741458647High Elves are the only race worth playing in Daggerfall because their paralysis immunity can serve to give you zero negative effects by selecting [critical weakness to paralysis] in custom class creation, allowing for an absurd amount of points for other benefits to be stacked.
>>741492291>he wants the game to be easywhy
>>741475305Nerevar fucked everyone though except VivecIt was normal for their time
>>741448175Keep dreaming, scalie.
>>741492898it's comfy
>>741485996You should see Fallout 4 with the anniversary "DLC" enabled, you get like 30 notifications as soon as you step off the Vault
>>741485996the oblivion remaster did address that. but it wasn't made by bethesda so eh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Isy_6J26jw
>>741496905
For me it's Nibenese Newtscale
>>741496959
>>741455295So much so that you had to mention it huh?
Morrowind is my favorite elderscrolls game. Not because it's fun to play but because talking about it is fun! The only game I like the discussions better than the game itself. I haven't played it in 15 years but I always open these threads or watch videos about it. I love you guys, so much!
>>741497453they love you too
>>741497428The nereverine is an argonian! And theres nothing you chuds can do about it, he frees the slaves and kills racists
Is being a vampire interesting in TR? The Vvardenfell clans are shit.
>>741497639I free the slaves and kill racists and dedicate their shackle keys to the spirit of Tiber Septim because I'm a TRVE IMPERIAL CITIZEN. We are not the same.
>>741492898In TES, you either break the game, or it breaks you.
>>741486213>only dunmer should wear colorful clothes because you're a kirkbride dicksucker o algo
>>741501610This but unironically.
Colorful clothes are a basic sign of wealth and power and everyone of such status should wear them.
Would people in Tamriel be offended if you had Argonian-skin boots?
>>741502130Would Daedra be offended if you had Daedric Armor?
>>741502049Even peasants wore as much color and pomp as they could during the middle ages. Basically the entirety of human history is full of weird colorful "clownsuit" clothing in just about every culture around the world. Minimalism and lack of color or patterns is a very modern phenomenon and is largely a result of industrialization and mass-produced clothing in a global market. It makes no sense for the people of tamriel to dress in generic hollywood peasant uniform.
reminder
>>741502651armpit sex
>>741502371I think daedra have a pretty different culture and way of thinking.
>>741502130Depends on the people. Dunmer wouldn't care one bit. Argonians quite obviously would not be very happy about that. Bosmer outside of Valenwood would pretend to be offended, while Bosmer inside Valenwood would want ones of their own. Most of the man races would assume you're a daedra worshipper or something just as horrid in order to not only access but wear something like that openly. Orcs would think you're being an effeminate sissy by obsessing so much over fashion that isn't made with practical use in mind, and would bully you for trying to flaunt your boots.
>>741502620>Even peasants wore as much color and pomp as they could during the middle ages.Yep, but would naturally have worse colors with less vibrance and lasting power.
Lan Orethan is beautiful and if TR team is changing it for Poison Song then its criminal.
>>741502848This is mostly true of medieval europe but other parts of the world show how even the lower classes will gravitate towards more intricate clothing when it's available.
I remember Yugioh making a deck Mesoamerica. And the made it specifically gay as fuck with all the colors and decorations
So how is Tamriel Rebuilt? Been a while since I've replayed Morrowind.
>>741481524TES, compared to most games, actually has a big female playerbase. Danae and Lady Nerevar come to mind, as relatively big names in the community, and unless they're like OG 90s/00s trannies (which is extremely unlikely), they're actual women. Tiny Plesiosaur, one of the TR devs, is a tranny, though. I'm assuming so based on the flag in their Discord profile picture.
>>741502049>>741502620>>741502848The funny part is that peasants normally wore these sorta bright (but washed out) colors, because having deep, dark colors (beyond blacks) typically required more dye or more expensive dye. Mudcore dark clothing just was not a common thing because dark clothing was more expensive.
What do you call this type of person?
>>741502821Eh, Nords don't care about Daedra worship and Imperials and Bretons are mercenary Daedric worshipers (legal and sanctioned in certain contexts in Cyrodiil, Daedric witch cults are unofficial but very widespread in High Rock.) The only Mannish race that gets triggered about Daedra are Redguards.
>>741506316a tranny
>>741448175azure is not sheogorath, she wouldn't make her champion a fucking gecko
>>741506442Mephalan gamer scent
>>741506357you stole my fucking line. Also, MinnieD
>>741490326https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58658This mod is so fun
>>741505950RPGs in general are known to have big female playerbases. A poll in Japan came back with around 30% of the RPG playerbase being female.
>>741506316strat-edgy went complete fucking schizo and is a far leftist. MickyD is a tranny.Zaric is not a tranny but is falling down the pipeline despite being married and almost 50.What's going on.......
>>741506316No idea, I like youngscrolls and have read all the Kirkbride shit, as well as playing the hell out of the game as a kid (pre-Steam.)
>>741506524Mephala is a futa, so it'd smell like unwashed balls.
>>741506684The autism necessary to enjoy Morrowind in modern times is coincidentially very close to the autism necessary to have Gender Dysphoria and get really fucking obsessed with politics.
>>741506821Can attest to that.
>>741455059>still nothing as good as AshfallNo thanks, I'll stick to MWSE.
>>741506821I'm glad I achieved CHIM and am above this.
>>741490326I use stealth is good, mercy ai, n'garde, and soltha's combat overhaul, as well as momw combat. All that combined really makes the combat engaging, but some people might find it a little too much.
>Download TR>never do anything because of choice paralysis>dont even want to open the game anymore thinking of how much content there is
>>741448175He cute
>>741499243iirc there's some cool vampire shit
>>741459173>>741458474ESO unironically does a better job of visualising and fleshing out Argonia than this completely dog shit fan fic.
>>741507198>the simplistic charicature of aztecs is actually good o algo>original design and effort is gay
>>741506926>ashfallbloatslop
>>741506316Steam doesn't track OpenMW
>>741507621NTA and Aztec 'gonians are cool, yeah.
>>741507714Boring and uninspired
>>741507621If your """original""" design is worse than modern TES, then yah, it's shit.
>>741507789What's bad about it?
>>741507198
>>741506354Most daedra have domains that are seen as dishonorable and encourage cowardly conduct by the standards of Nord culture (I think Hircine & Malacath are the only exceptions to that, though I guess Miridia would be cool given her hatred of undead).
>>741506442>vidya and energy drinksdrawn by a tranny, manly habits die hard
>>741507648Can't you add programs to steam? I don't use it much but I remember it had an option to add non steam games
>>741507996They look like the same retarded esoterica bullshit TR wants to force on every single culture.Look at this shit and put it on a human. Looks almost identical to their concepts for High Rock, Nibenese, Nords, and even Altmer. So much for being "original". Comes off as discord troon slop art style.
>>741508147yeah but it doesn't show your play time
>>741507789LMAOdelusional faggot
>>741508147It will be tracked as a seprate program from the Morrowind exe. iirc you can rename and paste the .exe, but this makes using MO2 and updating a hassel.
>>741507621Mayan lizards are kino>nooooooo it's too obviousNot everything needs to be Kirkbride weird, there needs to be a contrast. Morrowind is not like Skyrim is not like Black Marsh. The big issue muddling things is Todd's Cyrodiil being too cartoony & generic and encroaching on High Rock's shtick.
>Clownsuits >Aztec larpersSurely someone will come up with something better?
>>741508972>I just want them to copy WHFB dude what's wrong with that!?Play WHFB.
>>741506316Strat-edgy used to be cool but went full retard after 2024.
>>741508972>Not everything needs to be Kirkbride weirdCool, Black Marsh does though. Its entire fucking gimmick is being an alien place full of alien lizards whose primary and only consistent aspect in vanilla Morrowind is being described as unfathomably alien and mysterious in the eyes of the other races, the last fucking thing you should possibly do with it is copy-paste any real life culture at all
>>741508083Nords don't have an organized religion, religion for them is very personal. HOW you worship doesn't mean anything, WHO you worship might get you disrespect but there's no laws saying "Yucky that's not in the Nord pantheon!" Recall that they despise Arkay and consider him as bad as Malacath and Mora.>HircineDespite how it seems, Nords aren't into the savage nature/hunter god. Their nature and hunter deity is Kyne.>MalacathHe's one of the Testing Gods. He gets worship of a sort but he's considered an enemy/negative force.
>>741508383the issue is that you don't like that particular artists' artstyleit's not even unique to them, i recently came across a piece of art done by MK himself of Alessia, and he depicted her wearing a robe that looks nigh identical to the stuff the dunmer wear in TES III. it was a funny sight since it made me realize that the "morrowind/dunmer aesthetic" is to an extent just kirkbride's artstyle that he pictured everybody as having lol
>>741509851To be fair the general push with Alessia and early Imperials in general seems to be very "tribal jungle Minoans". Alessia as priest-empress of a people like that would indeed wear weird robes or skirts, lots of jewerly, be covered in religious tattoos, and ornamental hairdresses. The only thing all the Alessia concepts are missing that such a culture would do is that she'd have her tits out.
DID YOU KNOW argonians in morrowind have a unique swimming animation?
>>741509359Do better than just giving them gay fashion then? If the modders can't actually come up with anything cool and original other than a shitty reskin, then nobody will care about their Black Marsh expansion. This trope only works for 1 or 2 provinces, then it starts becoming a trope. Atleast Cyrodill and Morrowind have a bunch old shit to work off of.
>>741509851>the issue is that you don't like that particular artists' artstyleThe guy jerking off ESO doesn't realize Tammilsake is one of like dozens of people who put out concept art and the dude currently making assets and concept art for Black Marsh is someone else entirely.
>>741510158Luckily you're the only retard who thinks like this and everyone can safely ignore your opinion.Thank god
>>741507198Lol no, not in the fucking slightest, by any stretch of the imagination. ESO's Argonians are generic. Their "armor" is the same blocky brown leather bullshit with shitty metal bits on it everybody else in ESO wears but with a vague Aztec flair, their clothing is what retards think aztec clothing was like and their architecture is the either generic huts or just fucking mesoamerican ruins. Sounds to me like you just don't like when fantasy uses a color pallette that doesn't consist of brown and grey.
>>741509201You sound mad.
>>741510283I accept your concession.
>You guys are dumb, Aztec Argonians are heckin' cool!>What? Aztecs wore bright blues, greens, gold, fursuits, and painted all their stuff in extremely bright pigments and colors?>Nah dude fuck that the Aztecs ran around in grass skirts and all their architecture was stark grey and white, it was so badass, you're just lying
>>741485996>five minutes after killing your first dragon Miraak sends cultists against youThe rest are valid but this one isn't it. They start coming after you meet the greybeards, which is more than enough time after they shout DOVAHKIIN across the whole land.
>>741508972this shit misses the point pretty hard since the fang of haynekhtnamet is supposed to have been made by nord explorers from a creature that lives in argonia, not by argonians. reminds me of the card game retconning the one red-haired pirate from an imperial to an argonian just because he's tied to black marsh. you don't need to give the lizards lore by having them be behind everything related to black marsh y'know, it just makes the word feel smaller
>>741510308>he cares about made up internet pointsIt's even worse than I thought.
>>741510225Yes, thank God you have a circle jerking discord filled with trannies you can fall back on to act as a safe space.
>>741510417Maybe he just genuinely likes the way ESO had every culture across Tamriel wear the same brown leather hoods
>>741506316tourist
>>741510616Spiritually the same as stealth archer players.
>>741510502Yep! and you'll sit in this thread whining about your shit taste while I'll have fun playing TR!I'm so happy the normalfags were all corralled into ESO. It lets us easily split the fanbase into the people with taste and retards like you.
>>741503932This was a pajeet deck anon not mesoamericanYGO had aztec and mayan cards and even decks for decades before that
>>741510694Remember to ban any dissenter that make their way into the 'cord, sis!
>>741504071It's Morrowind but likeIf they took what was good in morrowind and did all of that and made it better
>>741511016why? we aren't under any threat from people without taste, they stay away.Like you!
>>741507102just go around and do stuffs OR make your life easier by giving your character a set amount of roleplaying rules. ex: my character will help the poor, my character is a X worshipper, my character likes to collect X items and put them in his dwelling. etc etc
>>741511075It's wild that they keep knocking it out of the park lately
Argonian aesthetics are just shit.
step 1: invent problemstep 2: find no solutionstep 3: problem is now real!
>>741511254It's why I've largely been okay with them redoing things in older areas. Sometimes because those older areas are kinda shit, but usually because the replacements are still good.
>>741510417Yeah, oldhammer slann minis are basically the only time in the history of the fantasy genre that the actual aztec/Mesoamerican aesthetics were used instead of naked jungle tribesmen in gray pyramids.On a side note, i actually like to read about mesoamerican stuff as a hobby of sorts and it's precisely why I despise the pop culture "mayincatec" aesthetic, like ESO's Argonians. It looks like shit and it's not a good representation of these cultures in the slightest. I just shake my head in disapproval whenever anyone says that shit looks good.
>>741511726i didn't know mossa did art of straight up aztecs instead of their warhammer expies, neat
>>741511726Speaking of that and that artist, I really like her depiction of the Lizardman wearing an Aztec-style fursuit made out of a Skaven while dragging more Skaven captives behind them. Can't post it because of rat wieners, but you know which pic I'm talking about.
>>741466748t. seething Dungmer
>>741510417Don't care, look neat.
>>741506316>have gone to vivec at least>don't install meme mods>have played mw and skyrim for a similar amount of hours by this point
>>741510417Aztecs and old native americans were quite advanced and had a shitton of kino different civilization and massive metropolis, argonians could never.
>>741511954Looks shit
>>741499243There's a robe that lets you look human so you can actually do shit now. Just remember to take it off before talking to your vampire bros, because you'll look human to them, too.
>>741511954What exactly is Aztec about any of those outfits except the use of turquoise in the decorations like that shit wasn't everywhere turquoise existed?
>>741448175Where did this retarded lizard meme come from? The PC's canon race is based on where the game takes place and everyone has always agreed that the Nerevarine is a dunmer.
>>741512127Someone hasn't played Morrowind, huh?
>>741512127>The PC's canon race is based on [headcanon]Okay
>>741512127t. dagoth ur
>>741512127From the fact that you don't have to follow canon in-game.
>>741512127a meme image resulted in a copypasta that resulted in voiceover by some youtuber.Now secondaries across the world think argonian nerevar is the funniest shit ever.
>>741512127I didn't agree.
>>741511898He was really into it for a while. Shame he's almost exclusively a warhammer artist these days and doesn't seen to have much interest on /his/ stuff anymore.Also, i love how half of the time he depicts Aztec warriors as pretty boys with rather feminine faces. Kinda shows how a fetish artist is still a fetish artist even when he's drawing a brutal Mexican warrior culture from real life.
>>741512145The prophecy was fake the whole time which was why they said any race could be the Nerevarine. You can even tell Dagoth Ur himself that you believe the prophecy is a load of shit and that everything you did was from your own hard work and not predestined which he admires and respects rather than chimping out.
>>741512127>everyone has always agreed that the Nerevarine is a dunmer.Well, my Neverarine isn't. Unless he is.
>>741511557Where's this?
>>741512253>The prophecy was fakeYou REALLY didn't play the game.
>>741512205pretty much this. Irony based humor
>>741458647>Eternal Champion: Stealth archer>The Agent: Stealth archer>Nerevarine: Stealth archer>Hero of Kvatch: Stealth archer>Dragonborn: Stealth archer>Vestige: Stealth archerFTFY
>>741512272Just a mod someone is doing.
>>741512127my canon nerevarine is an orc because the berserk power is busted
>>741458647>>741512458>vestige
>>741512502I love and hate that racial power. It's too good for it to be good, if that makes sense.
>>741510158again, your issue is with one individual's artstyle. the one consistent thing about PTR's argonian aesthetic is that they say everything should look and feel "organic" and wavy or whatever and whether something fits that or not is just decided by committee
>>741512502>*rcDisgusting, Gortwog's ending shouldn't have been canon.
>>741448175he looks like a nortubel character
>>741511726it sucks because the particular color pallette mesoamericans were really into was cool as fuck actually
>>741512292Whatever you say buddy
>>741512702Reminder Tamriel Rebuilt is retconning Daggerfall's endings for no reason whatsoever.
>>741513018But DUDE the HRE!
>>741513018>Tamriel Rebuilt is retconning Daggerfall's endingsBased.
>>741512918>2017Oh no no no no no no no
>>741513018the miracle of peace is oblivion lore though
>>741513146https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Where_Were_You_..._Dragon_Broke>"Once at Rimmen, which we'll never learn to live with. The second time it was in Daggerfall, or was it Sentinel, or was it Wayrest, or was it in all three places at once?"
>>741513449Rim... Men?
>>741513449None of that states or implies that the states of the Iliac all got unified under the 4 kingdoms doe
>>741513018What? no they aren't
I want to see what they do to the God of "No, You Can't Become Immortal, Now Contract AIDS And Die". Will they repeat the fucking mistake Skyrim did and make him le puke and poopoo man?
>>741507198Objectively untrue. ESO had the Argonians be not-aztecs because the people who made that game are incapable of not sticking to tropes, not because it made sense given what we know about Argonian culture. Same reason they gave the Bosmer tree monsters and a blatant Orion/Ariel rip-off in the form of giving the Silvenar a female counterpart, because they felt like they needed to conform to how other fantasy properties do things.Tell me, why would the race of aquatic lizards whose culture venerates roots and eggs above everything else have a material culture that revolves around the famously blocky, stiff "pixelated" Mesoamerican style instead of y'know, root patterns and stuff like that?
>>741513540It implies there was a Dragonbreak in the area, and they're already canonizing several endings happening at the same time (Manny the Marco, Underking, Orsinium). The project at large is also already using Oblivion things like the Ayleid ruins aesthetic and not!Grey Fox. Unlike plenty of other things added with Oblivion, I don't know of a single person that dislikes the Warp in the West as a bit of lore. To not use it but only kind of because half of it they do canonize and the other half replaced with their fanfic, you must admit, is pretty damn odd comparatively.
>>741513772No, they're primarily having him be the task manager god. There's an entire book series called the Peryiton that's just one of those goetia demonology books. That being said, they're not canning the pestilence aspect altogether since that does originate from Daggerfall whether you like it or not
>>741513894They are doing the Warp in the West, just not the Miracle of Peace. There was a Dragon Break, everybody did get their own Numidium, but the bit about every other kingdom of the Iliac Bay except the for the main four being gone isn't happening.
>This fantasy race culture needs to be based on irl shitWhy? Are today's artists incapable of creating a completely fantastical culture?
>>741514057The pestilence is fine. He unleashes diseases to restore the natural order and kill off people that wouldn't die otherwise. There's a reason his artifact nullifies magic. Skyrim makes him not-Nurgle, all of his followers are diseased freaks and that's the stupidest shit.
>>741513894Not to mention the Warp was written by Ted Peterson, who also worked on Daggerfall and Morrowind.>>741514167>They are doing the Warp in the West, just not the Miracle of PeaceThey're two names for the same thing.
>>741514282>NurgleIf you're a god of pestilence, and there's people afflicted by pestilence, there's only so many centuries that will go by before people that get leprosy will start to venerate you as cope.
>>741514176That's every artist since the dawn of time.
>>741514176People just enjoy correlating fantasy races with real life and all the banter and knowledge showing off that comes with it, there's a reason half of all TES discussion online is just retards guessing which real life cultures directly correlate to each playable elder scrolls race, despite the fact they barely know anything about TES or real life history. Hell it's not even a TES-exclusive thing, I've seen people do it to Lord of the fucking Rings of all things.>Are today's artists incapable of creating a completely fantastical culture?This is a factor too though. Did you know ESO gave them the Khajiit some indian/south asian elements? I know exactly how that decision was made: the artists saw some people on plebbit talk about how the Khajiit are LITERALLY gypsies (they've never played a TES game that wasn't Skyrim), they did some googling and discovered that gypsies actually come from India and voila, the cat people are now just fantasy jeets.
>>741514454And yet instead of providing palliative care, building hospitals, etc, they just puke all over the place and poison wells because that's what Nurgle worshippers in Warhammer do. I'm not opposed to some of his worshipers being the very people he wants dead, I'm opposed to it being a transparent, 1:1 knockoff of something from another piece of media, and not even a good one at that.
>>741514378No, the Warp in the West were the time distortions that happened in the Iliac Bay as a result of the Numidium's activation, including all the death and destruction that happened because of it, something that obviously wasn't very miraculous or peaceful. The Miracle of Peace is one specific aspect of it, the idea that, from the perspective of everybody else in Tamriel, the dozens of petty kingdoms of the Iliac Bay all suddenly decided to stop squabbling and become 4 big kingdoms instead, which was indeed not directly stated to be the case until Oblivion, thus making it optional for Project Tamriel. PTR isn't doing it because they feel it's more interesting for High Rock to have dozens of petty kingdoms, and iirc their lore to why the Miracle of Peace didn't happen is the Underking using his Numidium to largely undo everybody else's use of it or something to that effect.
>>741514779>instead of providing palliative care, building hospitals, etc, they just puke all over the place and poison wellsUh based?
>>741514879>NoYes. Morrowind only ever alludes to it being a Dragonbreak. It's Oblivion which both refers to the incident for the first time as The Warp in the West, as well as in the same bloody book states that the "Imperial proclamations and Chapel declarations identify this period as the 'Miracle of Peace' " then in the next page has pic related. Different, Imperial centric name for the same event. The Warp in the West, also known as the Miracle of Peace.
>>741514167The problem is that in their Warp the Numidium legitimately didn't do anything for Wayrest or Daggerfall, whereas it worked normal for everyone else.
>>741458474Based. I want more weird cultural armor that works with local resources and personality.
>>741514879>iirc their lore to why the Miracle of Peace didn't happen is the Underking using his Numidium to largely undo everybody else's use of it or something to that effect.LMAOTR really does mog PT in every way.
>>741458474Ugleh
>>741515448PT is woke.
>>741515568TR is pretty bad, there's some dunmer father who tries to apologize to his lesbian daughter. Some lesbian breton too and there's a gay couple somewhere
>>741515568the guy who drew that wants this to be emblematic of PTR alinor instead
>>741514176Erm, actually it's super interesting and imaginative to base Orcs on indigenous Sami raindeer herders and this matriarchal tribe found in the Amazonian rainforest
>>741516215looks pretty cool
>>741516215Looks AI.
>>741516358weren't the orcs supposed to be outer space samurais at some point? iirc kirkbride(and I'm not an idol worshipper) didn't really like orcs because they were boring and cliche by that time and he wanted to do something cool with them but it ended up being scrapped and he made them love dung as a joke.
>>741516215I see a considerable lack of "hypnotic swirl of ramparts and impossibly high towers, designed to catch the light of the sun and break it to its component colors, which lies draped across its stones until you are thankful for nightfall".
>>741515443NOOOOO IT'S GOTTA BE IRON AND LEATHER JUST LIKE MY GOT PROGRAMS
>>741516523>kirkbride didn't really like ____ because they were boring and clicheYes. He's a complete hack and a natural contrarian.
>>741516571Here you go
Reminder that Azura is petty and vindictive while having a sense of ownership over a people she did not create and has only cursed.
>>741516571probably because it's incomplete linework and thus has no colors
>>741516752WOOOOOOOOOOAH
>>741515443You're just being weird for the sake of being weird. Fuck kirkbride. They should just make nords look like the vikings tv show.
>>741516763She is one of the Daedra who lead Veloth from Summerset, she did create the Chimer along with the other two Daedra involved.
>>741462686FUCK
>>741516885Nah, not enough studded leather and rawhide harnesses and pauldrons.
>>741516885>like the vikings tv show.Right. Now who is being weird.That aside though the weirdness is its greatest strength. Part of what made Morrowind such a cult classic is how alien it is. The ashen environment with its flora and fauna influences everything from architecture, armor, food and every bit of culture in there. Skyrim would have been even more iconic if it had wacky stuff like sky whales peacefully drifting over the map.
>>741516824Towers seem pretty possibly high.
>Only two PT locations are actually(somewhat) finished, Anvil and Karthwasten.>Both borrow heavily from Oblivion and Skyrim for architecture and art designHmm...
>>741518141Are you blind?
Which TES race has the grippiest, hairiest, wettest pussy?
>>741518397khajiit in water
>>741518321They look the same?
>>741518321do you have more like this? town or area overviews that is
>>741518430Anvil has a lot more roman mixed into it, it isn't the same.
>>741518321Well they both have ceramic clay roofs so that means they're exactly the same.
>>741518321It's the same picture.
>>741518321we don't really see the graffiti and shrines from this angle
>>741518430Only from afar where all you can see are roofs. When you're actually there they don't feel the same in the slightest.
>>741518397Bosmer
>>741518664they don,t look the same from far away as well, the vegetation alone.
>>741518676Bosmer (forma de Wild Hunt)
>>741518321Goldstone fucking sucks
>>741518397Orc of course
>they're the same picture
>>741518397Nord lycanthrope.
>>741518840reddit
need a dunmer wife badly bros
>>741518840THIS IS SOOOOO SAPPHIC CODED! EEEEEE!!!!! I LLLOOOVVVEEE IT!
>>741518891>>741519054You seem perfect for each other.
>>741519054obsessed
>>741518891You do know this whole thread started with a "reddit" OP pic right.
>>741519505yeah and I don't like it.
>>741493213My favorite part of Vivec's characterization is how desperately he wanted to be Nerevar's lover and yet he was the only one Nerevar WOULDN'T fuck, which is why he flipped out and helped kill him.
>>741519537shift + click the thread on the catalogue will solve your problem
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>>741485767>as far as I know the Morrowind team has literal trannies as devswell, there is some level of mental defect to be expected from people who do these
>>741464616yeah i think its weird to have argonians wear cloth at all. it should just mainly flowers, plants, rocks, bones, etc.
>>741464230you think so? i actually think they do a pretty damn good job and have amazing attention to detail. only thing ive severely disliked is their absolutely horrid vivec model, but that will hopefully change as that was a couple of years ago now
>>741471956argonians LITERALLY wallow in the mud and travel through shoving their bodies into the bellies of worms that travel through the hist tree roots. they are not just south east asians with lizard heads
>>741511954""""Aztec""""
>>741476794i dont think she did. i think she just weaponizes the myth of nerevar to assert control over the people. she is one of the few daedric princes to have an entire race worship her rather than a bunch of random cultists across the continent
>>741520782They have magic spells and enchantments that make the mud slick off their scales and clothing.
>>741506629japanese "RPG"s are not really RPG's, to be honest. kinda just moviegame hallway-to-cutscene games
>>741520917Anon she has the Khajiit.
>>741508147you can but why would you? almost nobody does that? i also only have like 7 hours of morrowind on steam even though ive played this game for probably thousands of hours at this point since the xbox days in the 2000s
>>741507198>generic flanderized chatgpt tier aztec hodgepodgefucking cringe and horrid
>>741508972kirkbride is not even that weird. he just writes shit in the style of actual real life ancient myth. i think that the inhuman lizard people should have a bit more of an animalistic and alien civilization than just being generic humans with lizard heads.
>>741512127>The PC's canon race is based on where the game takes placesays who? the whole point is that the nerevarine could look like literally anyone. do you even Foul Murder myth?
>this is what PT wants nord raiders to look like
>>741512253anon that isn't true, in the game you meet azura twice and also the failed incarnates
>>741516885its not weird you fucking normgroid. real life cultures are 50x "weirder" than anything most fantasy games come up with. even ancient myths that are the pillars of civilization such as the greco-romans, mesopotamians and the chinese have bathshit insane lore.
>>741521381Cool but it will look like shit in game. They should go with designs that can be actually used.
>>741516885fuck you and your fake generic leather armor bullshit. go watch your netflix slop and kill yourself ASAP, tourist. this game and world is clearly not for you.
>>741521441>>741521381I hate how unrealistic history is.
>>741521381What culture is this?
>>741502651I like ratopombo's art there I said it
>>741521492>this game and world is clearly not for you.The world is becoming more and more normie core with each release.Its no longer for you anon, and I hope you stay mad.
>>741521441>>741521381Extremely familiar cultures like the British and the Dutch used to dress up like this on holidays back in the Middle Ages. Dressing up as a shaggy beast and hooting and hollering was the height of comedy at the time.
>>741521381this would be awesome for berserkers who are not concerned with practicality and are drunk on ritual, yes. i feel like you people underrate humanity so much for some reason. humans alone are weird. why should a fantasy world, which you would imagine would want to be imaginative, be so sanitized?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_5lSQMSSOQ
>>741521564>>741521704https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukerihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsmAUHeuWOE
>>741521441>>741521492Yeah keep dickriding kirkbride. Nobody wants this gay shit.
>>741521381but what about the droid attacks on the wookies?
>>741521492May your anger yield great strength, this world is being corrupted at an alarming rate, it is your duty to stay strong and persevere. Slay evildoers and create beauty which the demonic slaves may never truly understand.
>>741521657indeed, and thats why i have Tamriel Rebuilt. you can go have fun in ESO and Skyrim as much as you want. just leave us alone and stop trying to poison our interest with your tourism.
>>741521381God I can only hope so.
>>741519863>>741519831he just said he doesn't like the gay webcomic
>>741521786yeah people want it so little that they stay around modding a 25 year old game for 25 years and has more modding activity than ever. just kill yourself and go back
>>741521704for the sake of accessibility and mass market appealHow can something have successful sales if it doesn't appeal to as wide of a group as posssible?
>>741512127Todd intended for the protagonist to be a “stranger in a strange land” which can still mean a Dunmer but easily supports anything else.
>>741521892its a fucking free mod. what marketability? the mod and morrowind as a whole is more popular than ever. people are starving for this shit, anon.
>>741521834No, if I was able to take main line elder scrolls from you, why should I stop at that?
>>741521381Looks like shit.
Morrowind is sad to me because it has so many flaws and limitations and it's still the best open world 1st person rpg ever. It really shows how we stopped progressing and actually regressed that it's been decades and noone has improved on it. More decades will come with noone improving on it.
>>741521958you didn't take shit lmao
>>741521943Not enough.If they really where, then why did ES become the thing you hate?Clearly, your tastes are wrong, and its up to us to fix it.
>>741522081Elder Scrolls belongs to the nords.We have curved blades.
What do anti morrowind spergs even get out of these threads that they're here all the time? It's like if there was a traditional opera thread on mu or something and it was popular enough to be recurring would you get people constantly coming in saying "travis scott has more plays on spotify lol STOP talking about the magic flute"
can the normies in the thread explain why you want everything, including humanity, to be a monotounous, colourless blob of nothing? that there is no organic movement, experience and development of culture throughout time and space? nothing can be idiosyncratic or stand out from king arthur and leather armor? humanity should just be nothing to you? why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9V8lGHZcs
>>741522273Because its fun to remind you how much your shit sucks and how we won.
>>741522273Autism. There's one guy who claims to hate the game because he lost an argument on the official forum twenty years ago, but for most people here it's a lot of "Stop liking what I don't like" from people who grew up with Skyrim and can't handle other people's opinions and them preferring the earlier game.
>>741522306I honestly think a lot of the anti morrowind sentiment on v comes from a literal skyrim dev who is astronomically butthurt that Kirkbride is provably and obviously more talented than him. That's my headcanon anyway - HI bruce
>>741522273Rage baiting has rotted their brains.
>>741522306we cant have people feeling hurt and being upset, can we?we want everything to be for everyone. If its just for you or a few people, it has no place to exist then.
>>741522306Because that's gay and kirkbride
Why do morrowind fans cope so hard?Can't they see that their game failed and live with that, rather than seething about how oblivion should have been in a jungle rainforest?God Howard chose us, not you.
>>741522351i remember reading that article where he said all that disparaging shit about morrowind. it felt like the blizzard "you think you do but you dont" all over again. so tone deaf and out of touch with the pulse of culture. morrowind is bigger than EVER and people really desire something like morrowind. people dont just appear out of nowhere to start modding a 25 year old game more than ever for no reason
>>741522273that's just trolling and demoralizing, love your brothers hate your enemies.
>>741522619They can just appear out of nowhere, because they only have one game to play.Rest of us are eating good, while you choose to starve because of your weirdness fetish.
>>741522273People post hyperbolic strawmen of real retarded views that nutes fans have about morrowind and then autists here are unable to detect sarcasm and begin arguing with people who fundamentally agree with them already, and then those people just continue along ragebaiting. Nobody here is actually so retarded that they believe eso is better than morrowind, or at least I hope they arent.
>>741522619>the blizzard "you think you do but you dont"Blizzard was right, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>741522730>Nobody here is actually so retarded that they believe eso is better than morrowindAnon...
>>741522619the interview was extremely bizarre, especially when he starts not subtly bashing Todd. I might be crazy but I do think Todd is in a 'sold his soul' position where he's basically a rich hostage now. You can't worship God and also worship money, and something truly engaging and beautiful comes from some type of devotion to God.
>>741522619If you really look into his interviews he seems genuinely soulless. No love for anything, no passion, existing only to dampen the creativity of others. He's one of those people that's so retarded that after some point it becomes evil how retarded he is.
>>741522715i have no desire to endlessly consoom consoom consoom like you. i have yet to experience all of tamriel rebuilt and i will never be able to keep up with all the content releases. im doing completely fine man. i get my fill of morrowind whenever i want and i have a life outside of consooming video games, unlike you.
>>741522778They were not. Retail wow does not have players, and does not have engagement. Go on youtube and look for the top most viewed videos on classic wow and compare them to the top viewed videos on retail wow. About a 10th of the viewership belongs to retail.
>>741522891>I have a life I swear!>I defend my mid game on the internet all day!
>>741522949this lmao. if anything, the only engagement retail shit gets is tons of hate and like 100 fat whales that keep the game alive.
>>741522995me being in one thread on a sunday = defending the game 24/7 obsessively? very interesting, anon.
>>741523052saturday*
>>741523052>I swear, this is the only time this happens!
lol you guys are so autistic you fall for bait that obvious
>>741523052favorite weapon design that they added in TR? I really like the auroran design but the weapons are a bit too strong for how easy they are to get.
>>741522949And how exactly does it prove Blizzard wrong?Classic isn't vanilla, it's retail.
>>741523130nta but I like the original Nerevar's Axe design. The replacement one they're going to boot it for is absolute dogshit though.>Yeah man this cool tribal ebony-looking axe? Replace it with a generic silver Nord-looking weapon
>>741512145the Nerevarine is literally in the ads, they all use the same spike haired dunmer
>>741523183Nord kino is here to stay
>>741523221You didn't play the game, anon.
>>741523264a lizard will never be Nerevarine and you will never be a woman
>>741523183I really like askenhost even though it's very close to being too glowy, also ignore the nord kino faggot.
>>741523291>Random political shit out of nowhereYou just straight out don't know the lore or the theme of the story, which would require you to have played the game.
>>741523264>Morrowind fan excited to finally play his favorite game for the first time.
>>741523221>Advertisement: PLAY ANY CHARACTER YOU CAN IMAGINE>Anon: I will play this exact Dunmer from the ads because I can't imagine anything else.
>>741523173>have you ever considered releasing legacy servers of older expansions? >no... >and you don't want that
>>741523339I thought your fetish wasn't political?
Skyrim still gets high quality official DLC all the time, what does Morrowind get?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1jKQHWGE-Y
>>741523338Apparently they're going to put it in Hammerfell as, I don't know, some random Nede weapon? Which is an incredibly lame backstory for a weapon comparatively and I'm going to be honest, I care about Hammerfell the least of any province. It's just such a downgrade to make Nerevar's axe some Nord-looking shit, I don't care if you want to argue he got it when he beat their ass along with his dad Moraelyn or whatever, it's not what I want out of a DUNMER weapon.
>>741523372My Morrowind fetish?
I believe there is no canon neravarine , your player character is a potential nerevarine and may become one but this is a "per save file" occurrence
>>741523454I think they would put askenhost in the western side of skyrim but in what is considered hammerfell, since hammerfell also includes a ton of mountainous regions on the eastern side. Like how dragonstar is half hammer half skyrim. I think that's fair. The nerevar's axe is currently pretty cool, shame if they change it.
... what do i do here?
>>741523454I think hammerfell will end up being one of the coolest provinces once they release it. The concept art and all they have for hammerfell rn look fantastic.
>>741523130havent gotten to the aurorian part yet, but theres lots of cool weapons. off the top of my head one i thought was nice and sleek was faithkeeper
>>741523772DOOD IT'S HECCIN FALLOUT! EPIC!
>>741523772>Ra'athimoh shit where is that? I thought they were all under Mournhold going off the Real Barenziah.
>>741523221no offense bro, but the central theme of the nerevarine myth kinda went right over your head, i think.
>>741523439A paid mod is not DLC
>>741523772Did you examine the palm of the artifact?
>>741523903faithkeeper looks pretty cool although I felt it could have been stronger but it's a little nitpick.
>>741523980LOL, you know what in my first skyrim playthrough (when it was released) i actually did but then i still got stuck at the door for some reason... i forget. >>741523940It's in the Old Ebonheart sewers, and you're sent here as part of the thieves guild quest, but I can't figure out how to get past this door it just insta kills you even with the eye she gave to "bypass magical defences" and I can't find anything. There's a crank right there but i dunno how to activate it
>>741523439>Paying for mods
>>741523772you really can't open it with the artifact?
>>741524505I can open the lock but the door just kills me instantly when I try to open it. I have the eye equipped
>>741524552what if you just have it in your inventory?
>>741524598i die instantly. i also die instantly if i try to use telekinesis to avoid the trap
>>741524598>>741524756i also die instantly if i first use the eyes effect before attempting to open it using any method
>>741524798might be a bug unless I'm crazy
>>741524820AI is telling me it's a known bug that occurs when you... pick the lock rather than finding the key and now I have to reload a save or use console commands to get past. That's very disappointing honestly. AI could be wrong though.
le funny ironic comic with sex appeal for real gamers #reddit
>>741524995it's also not something women actually do, ever
>>741525025What, sit around in their shit and underwear? Play TES? Yell at the TV? They do all that shit. It's just not usually hot looking.
>>741525264men do those things.
>>741525331Yeah so do women. They're not aliens bro.
>i only let you live because i had to look up a way to get past this bugged quest and happened to learn there's some reward for sparing your life I continue to be extremely disappointed with TR thieves guild quests
>>741525356they don't. men in drag are not women anon. I'm Canadian and this is the sc2 player I like to root for (the original foreign hope) or did back when I cared about sc2... but not a woman. No woman anywhere ever of all time has won a serious videogame tournament. No evos, no dreamhacks. Not in China, not in Korea, not in Japan, not in Poland, not in Russia, not in America. You don't need to pretend there's no difference profile in interests, it's likely beneath you to do so.
>>741525583I have two sisters. They both do as I said.
>>741525583>Women don't play competitive SC2 so they don't play ANY game?
>>741525849my sister had some fun with oblivion when I showed it to her, she liked stealing stuff in the imperial city and bought a player house and put all the shit she stole in it. Women play videogames but what you're describing is an extreme outlier. I work in a field that's 98% women There are reasons for these things, and what you're describing is drastically male.
>>741525995Not in the same way men do, no >BUT SOME WOMYa maybe a couple. Like 1% or so of women play games the way men do.
>>741526081What I described is>Sitting on the couch in shirt and underwear>Playing TES games>Screaming at the TVThat's not hardcore gamer nonsense, that's slob behavior. You're the one hallucinating this shit about hardcore competitive gaming.
>>741526207okay but they don't do that really >my sisterswhatever anecdote you come up with can't replace the obvious statistical realities anyone can observe. my workplace is 21 women and me. I'm spending my saturday like a complete unwashed slob playing morrowind and talking about it on 4chan. None of them are doing anything like that. I promise you.
>>741526207>>741526312oh and >hallucinating You said women are just like us, not aliens. I don't think they're aliens, but they aren't just like us either. I brought up competitive gaming to differentiate objectively between men and women and gaming. And the difference is very stark.
>>741526312>whatever anecdote you come up with can't replace my anecdote I came up withok dude, lol
