Xiv a little
>>741465654This looks more like the Sims or Second Life than Final Fantasy
>>741465914What makes you say that?
How has the playerbase been handling the modern clothes in the game now?Have CBU3 mention the weird situation now where you have the desperately poor refugees in Ul'Dah, or pirates in Limsa, that look like they're from the 16th century, meanwhile godlike adventurers are casually strolling around in hoodies, eating ice cream?
>>741466937>How has the playerbase been handling the modern clothes in the game now?They love it.>Have CBU3 mention the weird situation now where you have the desperately poor refugees in Ul'Dah, or pirates in Limsa, that look like they're from the 16th century, meanwhile godlike adventurers are casually strolling around in hoodies, eating ice cream?Of course not.
>>741466937Modern clothing isn't even the most out of place thing in the setting now. The gay bunnies are literally exploring space, building megastructures and terraforming other planets.
>>741466937playerbase obsesses less over the clothing than r/shitpostxiv does>will CBU3 mention cash shoppers and endgame stuff in-universe for ARR areasno lol
>>741467550Yep. They have protein bars, canned food, water coolers. Meanwhile the average person in Ul'dah is still living like they're in the 1500s.
>>741467632You seem to know a lot about what happens on reddit, don'tcha?>cash shoppers and endgame stuff in-universe for ARR areasHere's your level 15 ARR seasonal event little buddy.
>>741467765you had to point to seasonal events for some kind of in-universe acknowledgment at low levels? that's still outside of MSQ
>>741467987>has there been any acknowledgement of the huge clash of worldbuilding?>NO AND ONLY REDDIT CARES WHY WOULD THEY ACKNOWLEDGE ENDGAME STUFF?>but here's some low level content that has the same clash>THAT'S NOT EVEN MSQ WOW YOU'RE REACHINGBut have you figured out how Malikah's Well is the Cavern of Earth?
>>741468116>ALLCAPS and then gibberishconcession accepted
>>741468164Glad you could realize that you're a dumb faggot with no argument.
>>741468116>But have you figured out how Malikah's Well is the Cavern of Earth?There's some esoteric story behind this and it's not going to be interesting enough to really warrant using this as a dog-whistle for some gay /vg/ argument you had months ago you're still holding onto it. I just know it. Tell it anyways so I can be disappointed.
>>741468251It's always funny when you have to compulsively reply when you're being made fun of, but then you have to pretend you're confused at the same time.
>>741468339Well then you're not the fun kind of schizo that actually has an axe to grind and will drop everything to explain his grand narrative, you're a /vg/ ebin putting on airs otherwise. Boring!
Where can I find good XIV modded coom material that isn't locked inside some faggots discord
>>741468424Also funny when you compulsively defend /vg/ but then will randomly use it as a scapegoat when you have to protect your ego.
All sorts of modern slop is plaguing the game yet we still can't run around barefoot, the world building in this game is a joke.
>>741468559being barefooot is offensive to our chinese and korean overlords.
>>741468508Unironically ask around in /vg/, some of them might be able to hook you up with pmps floating around from the days where Unvaulted was still up. Depends on time of day whether you'll get helpful modbeasts or ones that just talk to themselves.>>741468528Boring!>>741468559The devs' argument for wearing sandals even while barefoot is that it standardizes player heights so you aren't noticeably taller when wearing shoes or boots.
>>741468559And yet you continue to pay a subscription fee to play this utter garbage.
last summer event had a barefoot middie so im not buying the standardized height myth
>>741469010NPCs get specialized gear all the time, what was that character's name? Might be worth checking Garland Tools and seeing what the special ID for their "foot gear" was
Like it?Love it?Gimme the rundown.
>>741469607custom animations are so jank and soulless
>>741469743worse: those seem to be fortnite imports
WAOW!!! FINAL FANTASY XIV!!!!
>first speen mod on the archive is for fagslol
so i guess this treads are death until the fan fest on the end of July huh, for my part im on 4.2 and already completed the ivalice chronicle and it was pretty peak, doing omega now too
>>741465654
>>741471603yea not much to talk about for most people at level cap and the lunatic that made daily/hourly threads is quiet currently
It used to be shameful to work as a pizza boy back in my day. A job reserved for dropouts, pot addicts & low skilled burnouts. Now so many adult people do Doordash, Uber, Grub hub ect. and its become socially acceptable.When has this become normalized? I was sitting at a table and a little Lalafell said to the staff "I'm here for a doordash". My buddy smirked to me with a look of "get a load of this guy". I just judged silently as he stood there awkwardly looking at his phone.This young Lalafell could have done anything, ANYTHING else with his life but here he is using his own personal car, waiting at a fast food joint or restaurant, then driving to a persons home to hand deliver their food. That is bottom feeder behavior & it needs to be shamed publicly. It isn't a job, you are someones hired servant. And they expect a tip. A tip is earned for outstanding service, like a pretty waitress that brings your food to your table and actually seems happy to talk to you. Not a grown man walking up to a house with a hoodie (no uniform or professional clothes like a dress shirt and khakis) and expecting a $10 tip. No way, if I paid an inflated price, then a delivery fee that's more than enough to cover gas money unless you drive a hummer. Take it up with your boss if you don't like the pay. Back when I was working if I wanted a raise I would have to earn it, and tell the boss I deserved it. I quit many jobs until I got my career in the Auto industry and retired. All because I didn't like the pay and got a better job!
>>741471735This might get a little chuckle out of people.I'm sitting in Xbalyav Ty'e, applying to some map parties when four "Heaven-Storm-Shadow-Walkers" walk in. They get their tacos and sit down behind me.Que litany of Thordan, Varis, Emet-Selch mouth diarrhea. I ignore it. Gonna have to for the next four patches right?Then they start shitting on Dawntrail as they take out their TOP weapons. This gives me an idea. No idea where it came from, but an idea.I turn around and say, "Actually. Not a bad expansion. But I guess if you hate Naruto kind of stuff, it makes sense."They all stop talking and stare at me. "What?""Well, yeah. I can understand that if you hate Naruto the idea of watching someone become hokage in fantasy armor while black gospel plays wouldn't be something you want to play."I start to turn around when I get a "hold up!"I explain the Third Promise to them, then start playing Smile on my orchestrion plugin and proceed to limit break+speen, etc moves.You should have seen them leaning in.Then one of them entered their Emet-Selch mind again."Yeah? What about all the plot holes?"I shrugged as I put on my Solution 9 glamour. "I don't read any plotholes."He pushed "What about all the Krile stuff that they pushed off screen?""Krile? Who? I missed all of it on my first playthrough. She's a Scion? I just remember her parents being annoying, but hey look at this..."I glamourer to Wuk Lamat and let loose. "She's basically the perfect baby of Naruto and the girl lion from Lion King.""Now who wants to see the dead baby storage?"An hour more of increasingly less stupid questions? There where four more positive Dawntrail reviews.I found the situation hysterical!
I like funny modbeasts
>>741472178
>>741466937>Hey guys, this is my first Final Fantasy. What the FUCK is up with all the science fiction in my fantasy series? Isn't that like illegal or something?You'd think the minute you walked in on Garleans using robots you'd realize this isn't D&D.
/ourguy/ is getting there
>>741472257>modernslop is science fiction>garleans wear hoodies>science fiction is when there are robots in the storyA triple whammy of retarded secondary.
>>741472317What exactly do you think advanced scifi people would wear when they're not in combat? Do you think they'd dress down to your same Early Modern style peasant clothing as the pre-Industrial peasants? Why?>Science fiction is when there are robotsI mean yeah, there being science fiction indicates that there might be some science fiction around. Welcome to FF, did you find the airship in FF1?
>>741472493>What exactly do you think advanced scifi people would wear when they're not in combat?1. What does this have to do with Ul'dah?2. What does this have to do with Garlemald which is generally depicted as an early 20th century level of technology with a unique aesthetic?3. We have seen what the advanced sci-fi Allagans wear when they're not in combat, and it's not hoodies.4. Why do you think a certain level of tech automatically aligns to a real world fashion style that you're familiar with at that level of tech?>I mean yeah, there being science fiction indicates that there might be some science fiction around.Science fiction doesn't just mean robots are present in the story. Science fiction is specifically a speculative genre about how advancements in technology affect the human condition. You are utterly ignorant as to what words actually mean.>Welcome to FF, did you find the airship in FF1?Yes I did. Why do you think ancient technology in a story is science fiction? Do you also believe Lord of the Rings is science fiction? Conan the Barbarian? Greek mythology? Ancient supertech is a hallmark of the fantasy genre.
>>741472178pinklala... my beloved...
>>741472493>What exactly do you think advanced scifi people would wear when they're not in combat?
>>741472705>What does this have to do with Ul'dah?When did I mention Ul'dah?>What does this have to do with Garlemald which is generally depicted as an early 20th century level of technology with a unique aesthetic?T-shirts were invented 400 years ago and hoodies in the 20th century too.>We have seen what the advanced sci-fi Allagans wear when they're not in combat, and it's not hoodies.The Allagans are also all dead and not who I was talking about.>Why do you think a certain level of tech automatically aligns to a real world fashion styleWhy wouldn't they? This is a zero-sum argument. You cannot justify WHY they wouldn't wear clothes similar to what we had at their level of development, never mind that they're more advanced than us in other ways. You would simply PREFER they'd have goofy alien clothing, or at least you claim to wish they'd have some kind of fancy Amano outfits, which are actually inspired by 16th to 18th century noble clothing, and thus actually wouldn't fit for the Garleans because that'd be centuries BEFORE the tech/cultural level they're depicted with. Actually more anachronistic than hoodies.>Science fiction is specifically a speculative genre about how advancements in technology affect the human conditionThis is a definition from 100 years ago, for people like Orson Welles. This hasn't been the case since the mid-20th century Pulp Scifi boom, arguably the pre-war science fiction magazines already ruined it. Nobody is going to argue this is the case for Star Wars or Mass Effect, but only you, to win an argument and not because you actually believe it, would claim they're not science fiction.>Why do you think ancient technology in a story is science fiction? See above.>Lord of the Rings is science fiction?The round world cosmology was, but he didn't end up going with that one. The ships are magical and not spaceships in the version he worked on most.
>>741472208what is this thing
>>741472178you should be cute without mods
>>741473005>When did I mention Ul'dah?The post you're replying to did.>T-shirts were invented 400 years ago and hoodies in the 20th century too.What does this have to do with Garlemald which has its own unique aesthetic throughout the game?>The Allagans are also all dead and not who I was talking about.So which advanced sci-fi people were you talking about? The 1920s zeppelin people?>Why wouldn't they?>You cannot justify WHY they wouldn't wear clothes similar to what we had at their level of development>You would simply PREFER they'd have goofy alien clothing, or at least you claim to wish they'd have some kind of fancy Amano outfitsYou have no argument here, because we've seen their outfits and they ARE fancy Amano outfits. >>741472858The hoodies we're talking about here suddenly popped up in UL'DAH related areas. Ul'dahn seasonal events. Ul'dahn amusement parks. Your attempt to deflect to Garlemald shows you don't know what you're talking about, especially because Garlemald also doesn't wear those clothes.>The round world cosmology was, but he didn't end up going with that one. The ships are magical and not spaceships in the version he worked on most.But all the magic" seen in Lord of the Rings is actually ancient Elven or Numenorean craftwork. It's technology. The ancient impenetrable buildings, the seeing stones, their invisibility capes, their bread, it's all ancient technology. So why is this not science fiction according to your definition? Maybe because your definition is completely misinformed.
calyx is gone by .55
>>741473005>you'd just PREFER if the game maintained a consistent aesthetic it presented for its world for over a decadeYeah?
>>741473225>The post you're replying to did.In the context of desperately poor refugees wearing peasant rags, as if that justified why Garleans should also wear peasant rags. You're trying to reference a different post of yours that I didn't reply to, quote it.>What does this have to do with Garlemald which has its own unique aesthetic throughout the game?Their unique combat aesthetic? What about the civilian aesthetic? It's like you being exposed to GIs in camo your entire life then getting upset that US citizens wear t-shirts and jeans.>So which advanced sci-fi people were you talking about? The 1920s zeppelin people?The people for whom t-shirts would've been a thing for 300 years and for whom hoodies are like two decades out at best, but for whom fancy court clothing hasn't been a thing for 200 years?>because we've seen their outfits and they ARE fancy Amano outfitsThose are Allagans, not Garleans, numbnuts.>Ul'Dah seasonal eventsOkay? Then why are you flipping your shit at me telling you Garleans should wear more modern clothing?>But all the magic" seen in Lord of the Rings is actually ancient Elven or Numenorean craftwork. It's technology.Elven 'technology' works my investing part of your soul into your craft. It's not 'technology'. Numenoreans can work spellcraft to do that, to a lesser degree, but other things they do would be dubbed technology yeah. But not in the sense of 'scifi spaceships' but rather 'they know what herbs help heal wounds', the old definition of technology. Stuff that's ancient in human culture, just better because the world is magic. Equivalent to a witch making a healing poultice.
>>741473397Since when has the game looked like an Amano painting, let alone for 10 years straight? You're struggling with different cultures of different levels of advancement and place in time having different clothing. You'd go back in time two hundred years and lose your shit at kimonos or something, those damn Japs aren't conforming to the suits worn by proper British gentlemen and that's bad worldbuilding.
>>741473473>In the context of desperately poor refugees wearing peasant rags, as if that justified why Garleans should also wear peasant rags.You need to work on your reading comprehension, because the post is questioning why adventurers are walking around in hoodies and the world never addresses huge gap in the world state.>Their unique combat aesthetic? What about the civilian aesthetic?Are you aware that we can visit Garlean civilians in the game right now? Do you even play this game?>The people for whom t-shirts would've been a thing for 300 yearsThe Garlean magitek boom began around 50 years ago. You're so set on the fantasy setting aligning exactly to real world fashion growth, but you don't know a thing about the setting you're talking about. Why would people living out of caves in Siberia invent t-shirts?>Those are AllagansYes, that's correct. A civilization light years more advanced than Garlemald. So where are the hoodies? Where Garlemald's hoodies? Can you show me? Log into the game now and show me.>Okay? Then why are you flipping your shit at me telling you Garleans should wear more modern clothing?I'm calling you a fucking retard that has no idea what you're even talking about. You are the one who brought up Garlemald at all to try and call anon a secondary for pointing at these things in Ul'dah. Not Garlemald, Ul'dah. Did you read it that time? Let's try again. This discussion is about Ul'dah, not Garlemald (not that Garlemald wears such things either, rendering your whole argument moot).
>>741473551>Since when has the game looked like an Amano painting, let alone for 10 years straight?
>>741473759Oh, so one boss from one raid, and not anything before or after him?
>"Why are there people walking around in hoodies in Ul'dah when the rest of Ul'dah is 16th century?">UHH GARLEANS ARE SCI-FI CHUD>"What does that have to do with UI'dah?">WHO EVEN MENTIONED UL'DAH CHUD
Are we ever getting a good story back or I should just be glad I experiencied it?
>>741473802Are you sure this is the game you want to play?
>>7414738628.0 is looking like a ShB rehash so if that's not your thing just bow out now.
>>741473696>because the post is questioning why adventurers are walking around in hoodies and the world never addresses huge gap in the world state.So you're complaining that rich, powerful, worldly adventurers, don't dress the same as poor people? You can spin some social commentary from that, but the contrast itself is more or less natural.>Are you aware that we can visit Garlean civilians in the game right now? Do you even play this game?I sure am. I'm making a point to counter your talk of clothing needing to match their contemporary era. You started it by evoking the 16th century, not me, I'm pointing out the issue with that logic.>You're so set on the fantasy setting aligning exactly to real world fashion growthI'm not, I'm pointing out that since YOU complained about the 'modern' clothing not matching the 16th century, the Garleans should by that logic match the 20th century. From there I pointed out when some of the clothing you're bitching about was invented, to show how silly it is to complain about them being 20th century and wearing them. Realistically speaking, their clothing could resemble ours or not and have gone in any direction, but both are realistic and which you prefer is purely down to TASTE. Taste is a different argument than an objective design issue is, and requires you to accept the existence of subjectivity. The only likely universal direction is simplification and homogeny to aid industrial mass-production.>So where are the hoodies? Where Garlemald's hoodies? Who knows? The point is they could have hoodies, not that they have to. Again, if you want to bitch about it being OBJECTIVELY out of place based on real world eras instead of SUBJECTIVELY disliking the design, you need to prove why they couldn't have them, not ask me why the culture dresses as they do.>Ul'DahYour first post didn't make a point exclusively about Ul'Dah, read it again. You focused in on Ul'Dah in a later post I didn't quote.
>>741473910What does the Endsinger have to do with a discussion about fashion, are you alright in the head?
>>741474071nta but it's so funny seeing the insane hoops you constantly have to jump through to try to keep an inane, nonsensical argument going. keep it up lil gup
>>741474251Say that again but less angry this time.
lil gup keepin it up crazy style
>>741472269Imagine being a lalapedotranny AND wasting weeks of your life "progressing" in XIV raids, something literally no one cares about, lmao
>>741474050>So you're complaining that rich, powerful, worldly adventurers, don't dress the same as poor people?The question is about how and why some people suddenly have modern comforts that came out of nowhere and why the world never addresses this discrepancy. There is content where rabbits are synthesizing clean water and canned food, but the majority of the people in the setting are dirt farmers living in rags.And for that matter, these items we're talking about are not strange things only rich and powerful adventurers wear. These are things given out to the populace for free by the adventurers guild during holidays, or won as prizes at the Gold Saucer. >I sure am. I'm making a point to counter your talk of clothing needing to match their contemporary era.Excuse me? That was your argument. You were the one who claimed that if a nation has robots then they have hoodies because that's what you know from real life. My argument was that it's a fantasy setting and people can have whatever fashion is designated to them by the world designers. Such as what Ul'dah, Garlemald, and Allag were all given when they were introduced. None of which matches the modern hoodie aesthetic you're defending.>I'm pointing out that since YOU complained about the 'modern' clothing not matching the 16th centuryI'm pointing out that the modern clothing doesn't match UL'DAH. Not the real world 16th century. That Ul'dah was given clothing reflective of that time period is completely irrelevant, because the actual point of discussion here is what UL'DAH has available to them. What was invented when and where in the real world has nothing at all to do with the discussion, you just seem to think it does and you can't let it go.>Who knows? The point is they could have hoodies, not that they have to.But they don't. They don't have hoodies. THAT is the point. You're trying to deflect to Garlemald, but Garlemald does not have hoodies. Ul'dah does, suddenly.
>>741474050>Your first post didn't make a point exclusively about Ul'Dah, read it again.>>741466937>Have CBU3 mention the weird situation now where you have the desperately poor refugees in Ul'Dah, or pirates in Limsa, that look like they're from the 16th century, meanwhile godlike adventurers are casually strolling around in hoodies, eating ice cream?It's no wonder you don't know what science fiction is when you can't read.
>>741474071>Since when has the game looked like an Amano painting, let alone for 10 years straight?
>>741474559looks like nomura's rendition of an amano character albeit
>>741470337>they released the clothesmotherfucker
>>741470337Can men not use the speenwear?
resident dawntrail cultist tying himself into knots, trying to spin this as being a good, coherent addition to the game's aesthetic because uhhhh garlemald has robots or somethinglollmao
>>741474643your argument is based on using the word 'modern' in different contexts to suit your purposethus it is semantic and worthlesshave a nice day :)
>>741474643gosh what on earth could it be that sets these two images apart hmmmmmmm i just cant tell they're basically the same thing right? i'm really smart btw
>>741474454>The question is about how and why some people suddenly have modern comforts that came out of nowhereThey didn't come out of nowhere. Your worldly ass went to Garlemald, raided Allagan ruins, wend to another Shard, went to outer space, then took a stop by Solution 9, and at every step you got yourself access to tech and comforts strange and alien to poor refugees in Ul'Dah. It wasn't out of nowhere, there's an obvious how and why. Your complaint is ACTUALLY about how the bourgeois haven't spread the tech they came in contact with to the proletariat, which is social commentary.>Why the world never addressesThe Doylist explanation is that this is a video game and someone needs to write a quest or expansion about Ul'Dah's social and technological situation in a post-DT world. World doesn't just auto-update to have the peasants go "wtf" and your shiny Allagan weapons.>There is content where rabbits are synthesizing clean water and canned food, but the majority of the people in the setting are dirt farmers living in rags.Yeah again, video game. "Why haven't the rabbits given all the peasants canned food?" Because someone has to write that. The raw fact there is that it makes more money for them to show you a bright shiny new area rather than release "FFXIV: Go over all the old areas from ARR and introduce processed food." It also interferes with the dev's design philosophy of having ALL content available to everyone, it would be a major blow to the game to remove all of ARR just to soothe your autism about worldstates.>The Ul'Dah Seasonal Events...I didn't quote that post, reminder. You refuse to even requote it despite constantly referencing it like it was ever part of this conversation line.>Gold SaucerThis is explicitly for rich people btw.>You were the one who claimed that if a nation has robots then they have hoodies because that's what you know from real life. Read comprehension, no I didn't.
>>741474748garlean armor looks like shit imo
>>741474454>None of which matches the modern hoodie aesthetic you're defending.Because it's Solution 9 fashion, which is part of the setting no matter how much you don't like it.>But Ul'Dah hands it out in...Still didn't quote that post.>You're trying to deflect to GarlemaldNo, I was making a point to you bitching about hoodies existing IN GENERAL by pointing out that Garleans COULD have them. This is relevant because you are whining about what fashion exists SETTING WIDE going back to ARR. So pointing out someone who shouldn't look like the 16th century was to highlight that the setting was never 16h century setting wide. The post where you specified Ul'Dah was later and I didn't quote it. >>741474494>or pirates in LimsaHey look, not Ul'Dah. It's almost like you did a shortened list meant to evoke the generalized setting as it existed in ARR and not specifically Ul'Dah until it suited you.
>>741474748The game was far better with the Garlean Empire as the threat. Spooky niggas ruined the game.
>>741474748still kinda strange how they somehow managed to get nael's combat data from the coils fight
>>741474748Do Garleans run around in their combat armor day to day? Do you go to school or sleep in your bed in your magitek armor? Retard. That's not even about modern clothing, it's about you using armor designs as a wedge to bitch about civilian clothing. The armor design is not going to be remotely relevant to what civilians wear regardless of what that actually is.
*smacks lips*we wuz allags n sheeyit
>>741474774>They didn't come out of nowhere.They did.>Your worldly ass went to Garlemald, raided Allagan ruins, wend to another Shard, went to outer spaceExcept none of these places have hoodies or t-shirts.>then took a stop by Solution 9Ul'dah gained t-shirts and hoodies before they even knew Solution 9 existed.>Your complaint is ACTUALLY about how the bourgeois haven't spread the tech they came in contact with to the proletariatAgain, they have. T-shirts and hoodies are given out to the populace by the adventurer's guild during events. Except the world never acknowledges it. You can't read.>The Doylist explanation is that this is a video game and someone needs to write a quest or expansion about Ul'Dah's social and technological situation in a post-DT world.Which is what anon requested in the post you originally replied to. You can not read.>I didn't quote that post, reminder.You did. Want me to hold your hand to help you find it again?>This is explicitly for rich people btw.Absolutely not. Do you know anything about the setting at all? Based on our conversation I really don't think you do.>Read comprehension, no I didn't.Time to hold your hand again. >>741472257>>741474903>Because it's Solution 9 fashionExcept it's not. It's only in Ul'dah.>No, I was making a point to you bitching about hoodies existing IN GENERAL by pointing out that Garleans COULD have them.Except they don't. What's your intended argument here? That Ul'dah has hoodies because you imagined Garlemald could have them in a parallel universe?>Hey look, not Ul'DahHey bud, you skipped part of that quote there. What were those words you left out? Can you quote that again but leave the whole line?
>>741474974Oh so it's actually because you think this is ghetto fashion and it's a political thing for you?
>>741474953>okay yeah garlean combat gear is medieval knight armor made with high tech materials, but they definitely wear hoodies and sweatpants when they're browsing tiktok just like me because i can only imagine things i've seen in real life
>>741474930{Don't worry about it.}
>>741475053garlean armor is substantially sillier than modernized knight wear, it's power armor that runs on and uses magic gasoline
>>741475053>garlean combat gear is medieval knight armorSenpai I'm starting to think you don't know shit, you have no idea what knight armor looks like. It's magitek power armor.>But they definitely wearNot armor.
*replies in less than 1 minute with steam spraying out of my ears* i'm not mad though i'm actually really calm and smart
>>741475101>u-u madlol
>>741475091>>741475098>dude it's power armor!It's literally cermet plates over cloth and leather.
>>741475101this is really funny from the perspective of somebody that doesn't give enough of a shit about japanese fashion being added to the game to get tilted about it and rant for 50+ posts about it
>>741475101"people" paid $22.00 for this
>>741475160we also see gaius kick his into a hyper-mode on screen in the praetorium, it's power armorgunbreaker even retroactively references it with that gold job gauge
I started playing this recently and all I do is mine fish. Everything else is really boring for some reason.
>>741475160This right here is a mix of armor and German WWI officer clothing and it's also not the same kind of gear as what you posted in your first image to try and characterize civilian clothing, nor is it civilian clothing itself.
>>741473759can i look like this dude?
>>741472269Xenosys cleared before him on main LOL
>>741475242Yes, you can get his whole gear set in Syrcus Tower.
>>741475242ye
actually i'm not mad actually it's really funny from the perspective of me, someone who is just so smart and aloof that i just dont care about anything *farts in a jar and stores it for later*
>>741475205nta but>metal over cloth>"""power armor"""nigga what in the blue fuck is getting "powered" here, for all you know he just boofed 50mg of chemagical trenbolone
Guys where are all the hoodies and graphic tees?
>>741475265>>741475269thanks anons. what about his pimp helmet? are there any classes that lets me larp as a swashbuckler?
>>741475327that changed his armor color???? also this setting weaves magic shit into fabric all the time to enable more magic to happen, it's actually the reason red mage has a shoulder cape
>>741475348his full-head mask is unfortunately not availablered mage is a fencer
>>741474996>They did.Pretty sure all those places have an origin that's explained in-universe pretty well. Maybe you don't like these places existing, but that's another discussion.>Except none of these places have hoodies or t-shirts.Removing Solution 9 from my list doesn't mean Solution 9 wasn't listed. This is you trying to make a whine just to have a whine there.>Ul'dah gained t-shirts and hoodies before they even knew Solution 9 existed.Still never quoted your post about Seasonal Events btw. It's amply clear you don't want to defend any argument you made other than that one, but I still never responded to that one.>Which is what anon requested in the post you originally replied to. You can not read.I don't think you actually made a good faith request for that kind of content, instead that was just you complaining about the devs. Who deserve a lot of shit, sure, but for 'adding hoodies to the setting' no. Maybe if I had actually quoted your post about seasonal events we'd be having a different conversation though? Just a thought.>You did.I did not, your original post evoked more than one city and made no mention of seasonal events.>Absolutely not.The Gold Saucer aint for peasants, except as maybe a place to get a job. >Time to hold your hand againThat post is about how you shouldn't be complaining about seeing scifi stuff in FF, because the post I quoted is whining about so-called 'modern clothing' in what you accuse of being a 16th century setting.>Except it's not. It's only in Ul'dah.Where do you first encounter such outfits, anon, and in what expansion was this seasonal event?>What's your intended argument here?I already told you, that hoodies are something that could exist in the setting in general.>Hey bud, you skipped part of that quote there. No part of the post mentions seasonal events.
>>741475358enchanted armor is definitionally not power armorpower armor is mechanical
>>741475435we keep ignoring the super saiyan transformation here
>>741475341Dunno senpai where's the hairclip that reboots your corpse using some other dude's stolen soul?
niggas he's garlean it's magitek armor
>>741475506Garlemald is Solution 9 now?
>>741475435Are you going to ignore how Garlean armor is specifically fueled by blue gasoline and NOT the dude's innate magical power?
>>741475408That's a shame. Is it possible to make any characters similar to Amano's characters in general? You know, that tall, lithely, pale looking drabs. Was thinking about coming back after taking a break in Heavensward, making those elf dudes. Does the character remodel make them look better? Any new hairstyles/faces?
>>741475472I'm not ignoring anything, multiple garlean characters have spells like "artificial boost" that they use before casting their big movesthey're chugging magical steroids, sometimes that means they get a magical steroid aura because video games
>>741475556Garleans don't have spells, anon.
>>741475545the closest you could probably get would be au ra and elezen for the more willowy amano artstyle yeah though roegadyn also fit the proportions of some of the giga-niggas he's drawn over the yearsfor the most part the graphics update made everybody look the same but in higher fidelityloads of new hairstyles, no new faces but that may change in evercold since we're getting stuff like RGB sliders on skin, hair and eye color
>>741475587nta, but quit being pedantic
>>741475587nta but man you really could not be more of a faggot pedant if you tried. you know exactly what he means. no shot you had a father growing up
>>741475525I think you intentionally ignoring the point I'm trying to make instead of requoting the post that was actually about seasonal event rewards in Ul'Dah is some crazy shit. You could refocus the entire argument that easily instead of seething so much that I pointed out what you originally said was stupid.
If I could press a button and instantly permaban every modbeast that plays this game I would press it twice.
>>741475665granted, the six mod makers that /xivg/ and r/shitpostxiv are obsessed with are now banned
>>741475634>>741475628It matters a lot in-setting, is the thing, it's not pedantic. Especially when it's the same stuff that fuels their robots and airships who we DO see the inner mechanisms of. Or how some of the other people wearing magitek armor do show us mechanical transforming bits during their attacks or cutscenes, like Nero, and how you cherrypicked Gaius whose gear is relatively minimalist.
>>741475620Talking about Evercold, is it confirmed that classes are getting more skill diversity again? Thanks for answering my questions anon, have a Marin
>>741475697just proving you're a dumbfuck who didn't read his post, or you're just desperate to keep a pointless argument going. eat a bullet either way
>>741475697it's extremely pedantic, because I didn't feel the need to specify "ability with a cast bar that shows up while you fight them to tell you what they're going to do next"I just chose to say "spell"
>>741475409>Pretty sure all those places have an originThe 'they' in that line refers to the clothing we're talking about. You can't read.>Still never quoted your post about Seasonal Events btw.I know you don't want to address the seasonal events which take place in Ul'dah, but they exist and they are relevant to Ul'dah.>I don't think you actually made a good faith request for that kind of contentAnon asked if such content existed yet. That is all. Don't start trying to weasel in 'muh bad faith' because you've walked your argument into a corner.>your original post evoked more than one city and made no mention of seasonal eventsNot my post, but how is that relevant? The post mentioned Ul'dah. And said seasonal events are part of those cities.>The Gold Saucer aint for peasantsIt's really clear how little you know about seasonal events in this game, even though the Gold Saucer event is currently active right now. Have you done the quest?>That post is about how you shouldn't be complaining about seeing scifi stuff in FFAnd it was retarded because you not only tried to call Garlemald sci-fi, you tried to call modern t-shirts sci-fi, AND you also tried to assert that there can't be sci-fi aesthetics that aren't modern clothing.>Where do you first encounter such outfits, anonThe first one was in a PVP battlepass (given out by the Grand Companies). No relation to Solution 9.>and in what expansion was this seasonal event?How would that be relevant? Do you think everything in an expansion is actually occurring in some kind of spacetime rift that makes it all actually inside Solution 9 somehow?>that hoodies are something that could exist in the settingAnything 'could' exist in the setting. Giant pink elephants shitting giga turds all over ARR cities 'could' exist in the setting. But that's irrelevant because they don't.
>>741475768Is shooting a gun a spell?
>>741475692That's a start
>>741475796>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP ARGUING WITH ME I TOTALLY OWNED YOU BY DELIBERATELY MISINTERPRETING YOUR VERBIAGE SO PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE KEEP REPLYING TO ME PLEASE OH PLEASE!!!!!*takes a big fat dump on your chest*
>>741475703yes all jobs are getting reworks both big and small, four jobs were shown and their biggest points>dragoon's biggest skill is now PvP's limit break that takes you into the air to replicate a turn-based dragoon's jump, as of fanfest the jump will give 90% damage reduction while you are in the air>paladin can target allies with its move-to-target gap closer skill and doing so grants cover to those allies, effectively giving cover a massive cooldown reduction on top of strategizing your gap closer's usage>white mage is forced to use GCD healing to feed into its job gauge and has a toggle for normal abilities and afflatus abilities>bard is getting a near-total DPS rotation redesign and its three songs both no longer work on a cycle and have new effects, don't recall the third but one song had an MP refresh attached and one song had a full-party movement speed buff attached
>>741475796anon I am clearly referring to the in-game cast bar
Is every dungeon with players a speed run?
>>741475947its the only interesting way to play really
>>741475358>also this setting weaves magic shit into fabric all the time to enable more magic to happenGarlean officer armor is explicitly coated to inhibit the conductivity of aether, which both protects them from magic and prevents the weaving of magic themselves (which isn't an issue for Garleans obviously). There's no magic flowing through his armor.
>>741474603>but they didn't release the hairstyle
>>741472269He didn't do FRU?
>>741474453>AND wasting weeks of your life "progressing" in XIV raids, something literally no one cares about, lmaoWhat do people who don't raid even do in FFXIV?
>>741476043He did.
>>741475773>refers to the clothing we're talking about.Yeah and we know where hoodies in general are from. You seem to refuse to acknowledge I was never talking about seasonal event rewards.>I know you don't want to address the seasonal events which take place in Ul'dah, but they exist and they are relevant to Ul'dah.Sure, but like I said many times, I didn't quote the post about them because that's not what I'm talking about. The root of all this is me pointing out the stupidity of wanting the whole setting to look like the 16th century. Nothing else. "But what about the Ul'Dah seasonal event..." is a tangent. If you had the care to actually say "okay sure you're right but I actually just want to bitch about the seasonal outfits" then we wouldn't be having this conversation.>Don't start trying to weasel in 'muh bad faith' because you've walked your argument into a corner.I think I've made my point pretty well, actually. The issue is just that you can't argue with it so you keep trying to deflect to the seasonal events, but I didn't ever address those so we're at an impasse of you wanting to talk about something else and me never once bringing it up so I'm not letting you redirect me to it.>Not my post, but how is that relevant? The post mentioned Ul'dah. And Limsa, because the goal is to evoke the whole setting, not just seasonal event rewards from an event in Ul'Dah. A non-exhaustive list meant to evoke all the places in ARR.>It's really clear how little you know about seasonal eventsDid I ever mention seasonal events?>The first one was in a PVP battlepass (given out by the Grand Companies). No relation to Solution 9I'll defer to you on this because I sure don't remember when BP shit got added. But regardless, in-story you see that in Solution 9.>How would that be relevantJust to reinforce that this technology is a Solution 9 thing because I'm not really addressing seasonal events.>They don'tSolution 9 introduced them in story, so hoodies do.
male midlanderdark knight/dragoonmy name is john fantasy
>>741475665Why though?
>>741476072Nani? He did DSR and TOP but he hasn't done UCOB and TEA?
>>741476112baste
>>741476112this except male highlander
>>741476046Stand around the aetherite in Limsa and talk about troon rights
>>741466937>poor refugees from early byzantine empire living in late 1000s middle east town, the pirates from late 17th century, the pre-roman celtic pagans, the 12th century dragon fighting knight frenchs, the pre-unification mongols co-living with post three-kingdoms mini china, post imperialism south east asia and shogunate japan, the mid 1900s imperialist germany-russia, the neo-2000s greeks with future tech, the silk route india, and the unified Aztec-Mayan South American empire from the ????s and the recently settled budding colony of Texasvs>Literally, unironically new york after the jew colonists were denied access to Brazil's north east and decided to shit up the north>but new york is a fancy 2000s british castle towerOf course not. After all, Eorzea is a pretty cohesive nation that lives in pre-industrial medieval times and the world isn't an anachronistic mess tailored by the ascians and this isn't an ACTUAL FUCKING PLOT POINT in the story at all and is never ever detailed upon and and that fucking continent isn't on top of a literal fucking post-industrial, almost post scarcity globe spanning empire's FUCKING capital to the point that a big part of their culture is scavenging modern clothing, magic crystals, advanced engineering and robotics and whatever pile of giant bullshit the allagans left behind. nevermind the few living allagans elbow deep in Eorzea's industry calling the shots every once in a while, preventing the nation from ever developing silk panties ever again.
>>741476216Here's how those Allagans dressed by the way. >>741472858
>>741476246>The Allagans dressed like this, that means everyone more advanced than peasants should also dress like that thousands of years later and in separate shardsWhy?
>>741476112favorite artist? korn and babymetal....full armor sets with face always coveredfavorite profession? fishingmy actions define me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPxao3e_jY
>>741476291Here's how those peasants thousands of years later dressed by the way
>>741476340At some point you need to do some actual research about the diversity of traditional outfits or something.
>>741476372
>>741475160That's Garlean grunt armor, legati all wore power armour. Gaius even has a move where his armor power ups and he starts to fucking glow super saiyan thanks to it.
>>741476515That's a centurion, and legatus armor is centurion armor with unique helmets. Here you can see how Nael's armor is an embellishment on the centurion gear.
>>741476046For people who just came back to the game after hearing all the good things from the fanfest a lot of things to do for non raiders.
>>741476551>legatus armor is centurion armor with unique helmetsYou are delusional.
>>741474910They really wanted to copy FFT with the Ascians being Lucavi manipulating everything. But when Shadowbringers came and gave them a le sad backstory and “remember us” that’s what pivoted the focus of the game.
>>741476663...Can you not see the centurion gear under the asscape? It's the same armor. Look at the white straps securing his breastplate, for instance. Same ones on Nael's armor and on the centurion gear. You're being confused by the extra bulk the asscape provides.
>>741476703Huge improvement, one-note>They are evil demons... just because!Villains suck desu.
>>741476663it's moreso that nael's is specifically built on centurion armor because she was one of the first legatuses ever designed
>>741476726The issue now is that EVERYTHING is because of Ascians. It’s different when it’s them manipulating things. Any creature or any religion or any historical rumor is because of something Ascian.
>>741476774That's not really an issue with the story they wanted to tell up to Endwalker.
>>741476749Even Gabranth, rather than being a straight port of his FFXII armor, is designed around the centurion foundation.
>>741466937>How has the playerbase been handling the modern clothes in the game now?I just choose not to wear it>>741467550honestly this, i lost interest in wow when it became about ancient aliens shit, and this made me check out of the "story"
Legatus armor looks like shit
can i wear armor?if no it is shitif yes it is good
>>741475253>tfw when bald man and the chink with the lisp cleared DMU before Mr Brappy
>>741477383brappy is busy trolling his static with his job choicesbald is busy trying to milk his ban for clicks and claim it's a violation of his freedomsarthars believes the mobile version of the game is goodthey are not the same
>he has to wear armor to look cool>can't just do a pointy hat
>>741477595
can i play as a loporrit yet or does the game still suck
>>741466075Jesus christ, I've seen this image probably a dozen times, I have only just realized the middle guy also has a freakishly small girl sitting on his lap
>>741472257this isn't even what the post was about, you just made up an entirely different argument to get mad at
>>741466075if you told me this was second life or vrchat i'd believe you
>>741476159Probably more than one character, retard-kun. I have the first four ultimates but only one of my characters has done all four of them, that being the Elemental character I raided on when I lived in JP
A shame ultimates peaked with Ultima Weapon, all they can ever do is reiterate the first two and there was nothing funnier than seeing all the poop sockers thinking they were hot shit get buck broken by ucob because they thought yoshi was exaggerating when he said it would take some time to clear
>>741477864>A shame ultimates peaked with Ultima Weapon,bait used to be believableyou started playing end of shadowbringers btw
im gonna get epic clapback replies to this but I don't like the UMAD acronym, it makes no senselike what does it even stand for?ok yeah you use the letters from dancing mad ultimate but its in a completely arbitrary order to make the joke work, this is a forced joke and thus, its cringe. If it required less tweaking I could see the humor in it.
>>741477936lmao UMAD
>>741477936umad
>>741477936ultimate dancing mad
>>741477936DAMU is a much simpler joke but it's not a meme expression.
>>741469607Those are someone's sons. I pray I never raise absolute failures like the average Mi'qote player.
>>741477974that would be udam
>>741477936Same reason why its UWU and not UWR, people love their maymays
>>741478052You mean TWRU. I suspect your favorite fight is TRNY though
>>741478052thats true, but even then ig I could see it as the simplification of "Ultima Weapon Ultimate" I don't see anyone calling the new ultimate Ultimate Mad at Dancing
>>741478052>Ultima Weapon (Ultimate)what's wrong with it nigger
storms crown normal on crystal please. 1/1/0
>>741478338speaking of, I wonder how the new progression system is gonna interact with roulettesits already hard enough to queue for things if its not on content, will evercold just make things worse? will it be balanced out by regionwide matchmaking?
>>741478363depends on what the most points per hour roulette is probably. if leveling roulette is the best way to get points, people will be spamming it. MSQ roulette should include all story trials imo
>>741478409>MSQ roulette should include all story trials imoeither that or fucking skip cutscenes if everyone has already watched them beforeno one is gonna get harassed, this isn't that kind of game
>>741478472>no one is gonna get harassed, this isn't that kind of gameanon, why do you think the babygate exists in the first place
>>741478472its better nowadays but you absolutely would get groups that would leave sprouts behind in praetorium. instead of literally every group it would be half
>>741478338Is this your group?
>>741478363>new progression systemQRD? I was going to resub soon maybe I should wait
>>741478338Are you still in queue?
>>741478582looks like itodd how we need dps for it>>741478595yes
>>741478526the most toxicity I've seen from the game was when someone pulled early in the copied factoryand no, the toxicity didn't come from the puller, or even the sprout. it came from some random white knight who bitched for the entire fight about how the experience was 'ruined'.and like, I get wanting to have a good first time experience. but the sprout only missed like 20 seconds of the fight and the constant bitching and arguments surely only made the experience worse for the sprout.I know that really has nothing to do with the babygate, just really saying how comparatively non toxic this game is. because I know other MMOs have much worse things happen much more often
>>741478590>progression is now a battle pass format>tomes are kill, progression probably still timegated>raid drop tokens may also be kill, drops are presumably locked behind clear achievements>clone your highest ilvl to any other jobeverything sounds like a lateral move overall, just less worry about overcapping tomes and less waiting around if you come in at the tail end of a patch
>>741478742oh jebus i thought you meant like a new leveling systemi guess not having to farm a set for each role is nice but doesnt that mean i just run out of things to do earlier in the raid tier
>>741478619well, I was just at 2/2/2I guess not anymore
I still don't know why relics are not even competitive with raid weapons when they always come out 6+ months after the raid tier already became irrelevant
>>741478804they said something about still needing to farm out multiple sets if you wanted to be 100% optimal, which sounded to me like they might be rebalancing secondary stats somebut yeah if you don't care about parsefagging there won't be as much incentive to keep logging in every weekhopefully they'll be implementing relic weapons and the like earlier in the patch cycle to make up for it
>>741478861we popped
>>741479007okay, then I just got kicked out of the group for no reason. I'm just leaving the queue then
>>741466937By coping, they don't like it but because it's direct from the devs they have to pretend to like it because of the mentality of 'toxic positivity'. They learned nothing from Dawntrail.
>>741478861thats because you queued as a tank
>>741479121i guess, but I was already in that group and then I just took me out, which is weirdI already closed the game anyway. Back to the grind on LEGO Batman. Going for that 100%
why did the tank kill me with the tank stack markercosmically i probably deserve it but i wonder if its just, it being manifest this way
>>741478921is there a breakdown of this somehwere that i just cant find because im stupid and probably need a shower
>>741479186I had a run of Windurst where one of the healers attempted to murder everyone during the Al Zahbi fights by rescuing the tank that was marked with the massive AoE tankbuster into everyone. The same healer actually rescued AoE tankbusters into people several times.
>>741476894>>741476551centurion design is based on odin from XI. The plate around the back of the neck, and the breastplate make it very evident. They reuse the skull type helmet for zenos too.
>>741479290you can get away with it exactly once. 'oh sorry, i fatfingered rescue'
>>741479290>I had a run where a healer used Rescue for its intended purposezased... so fvking zased.......
>>741479204https://www.youtube.com/live/_aCGzxWczCM?si=r_bDlorYlZwcYutI~37:00-1:00:00I'm sure there's a write-up post on plebbit somewhere too if you prefer text
>>741477808Actually my thoughts
>>741479350Man I REALLY need to know what the fuck they plan on doing with tomes, raid gear, and all that. If you can copy gear, are they also rebalancing gearing to be slower to hit bis? is the middle difficulty of 8 man raids going to progress you towards bis albeit slower than savage? are they changing up substats if they're changing all this other stuff including the job kits themselves? We already barely get skill speed on gear as is so they MUST know its a trash stat.
>>741479350what in the FUCK am i looking at
>>741479441whatcha need bis for anon?also, speed is gonna become an actual contender in statting probably. put the guy in charge of the rdps autism in figuring out breakpoints
>>741479441>copy gearFrom my understanding, it's just ilvl sync to your highest ilvl job, so if you want to adjust sub stats you will likely have to gear that job independently
>>741479483they went to great lengths to explain that its a placeholder. but it is hideous isn't it
>>741477980This is why when I played I was a lalafell. Only chads play lala's.
>>741479304I can't find a picture of it but the tiny version of Odin that appears in RoV also just looks like Gaius's faceplate floating between some blades.
>>741479489Ultimates, and its just generally something to chase. This entire activity system relies on gear being an incentive
>>741479519It would be cool if you could customize the background, give your character a different pose, like adventurer plateswhat if you could even play your own music in it, I love cozy menus like that
>>741479519well UI-wise i don't really care, i'm sure it will get better, i just can't believe what i'm seeing. you weren't kidding about battlepass it literally says "season"
>>741479547attaching an orchestrion roll to your plate should be a feature
>>741479547>It would be cool if you could customize the background, give your character a different pose, like adventurer platesThey already confirmed you can customize the pose.
>>741479537>Ultimatesa minority of a minority actually do these thingsI'm sure they're fine people but balancing the entire gear progression for 15% of the playerbase is retarded design
>>741479441The idea seems to be that casually and midrange your best job will be able to get any other jobs at max expansion level to the according content, skipping then necessity to grind EVERY last kit and job out possible if you just want to play something else besides the one geared set at endgame. But for Ultimates, you still have to get those totems and raid equips to optimize BiS for stats so that you can minmax your jobs individually to actually do their optimal for Ultimates and other high-end stuff.
>>741479350i've said this before, and i'll say it again: they need to remove off-hands and one ring
>>741479593I wonder if your character will be animated in an idle stance like most of these standard RPG UIs or if it'll just be a static png
>>741479441same bro, berlin fanfest can't come soon enoughif they're smartand that's a load-bearing "if"IF they're smart they'll be rebalancing secondary stats pretty heavily, speed in particular can have a lot of room to shine now with 2min meta getting nukedif nothing else it would also allow materia to become a decent generic progression rewardmy personal pipe dream is that they toss all flat stats other than health and armor and replace them with monhun-style skill points, but I don't reasonably expect that
>>741479660Probably completely stock still unless we convince them to the contrary.
>>741479692I love Bakool and his stupid expressions
>>741479441>the middle difficulty of 8 man raidsI'm extremely interested in seeing how they implement this. People who are already neckdeep in savage/ult content don't realize that beyond the initial "uwu i'm so nervous muh hard content anxiety" hurdle going from the normal 8 man raids to their savage versions feels like going from a basic algebra course to an advanced calculus program. Nothing in the game really prepares you for the sharp spike in difficulty and that scares away more potential raiders than people realize.
>>741479681while i too would prefer secondary stats be an actual choice, i doubt they're going to make things more number crunchy
>>741479681since DT was the "encounter design" expansion and Evercold is the "job design" expansion, I expect 9.0 to be the "gear design" expressionits just too much to change all in one go
>>741479780>Nothing in the game really prepares you for the sharp spike in difficulty and that scares away more potential raiders than people realize.This is what Extremes are for. If the new 8man is anything like Variant Advanced then it will be an intermediate between normal and EX
>>741479601the issue is there's literally nothing that needs the gear besides that in the current content structure. You clear savage with crafted, and then with enough weeks of savage+tomes, you get bis, and the only thing after savage is just ultimate. They don't need to make stuff like alliance raids easier via ilvl creep nor should they cause it just undermines the fights. We barely see night lords golden armor phase because of that.
>>741479780Honestly after some of their weirder implementations and decision-making with challenge, I don't think this will really make the difference they hope it does. Hell, without actually knowing people and making a static or a group of friends who are in the same interest of "training up", the majority of casual players will simply never bat an eye no matter what sort of lead-up you give them, especially since if they just wait out the expansion they get better gear than the raids eventually anyway.
>>741479840EXs are already at the levels of early savage. and players ARE scared away by those too. genuinely go join a normie ass FC for a week that patches drop and you'll see people talk about not feeling confident with even EXs
Flip upside-down and facefuck every lala in this thread
is auxesia done yet? i don't wanna go there till everything is done so i only need to explore it once
>>741479780>>741479903Losing for several hours in a row just isn't fun, and will never be fun. >>741479925Extremes are the exact same, there's no way I'm going to waste my time getting frustrated for hours and not even be guaranteed to get the drops from it either.
>>741479983yeah. unfortunately, the most palatable solution to this is various currencies and its not that exciting to grind for tomes/light/good boy points
>>741479780I expect it to be almost identical to Savage, but less one shots and more damage downsrealistically the biggest hurdle is that mechanics don't always scale up from normal in obvious ways, and it's hard to tell what went wrong when 8 things explode at once
>>741479903>>741479925As a casual player, CLL, DR, and Dalriada were the perfect level of challenge for me. Honestly exploratory zones in general are a great "casual endgame" area, though who knows if they'll show up in EC.
>>741479983The rewards for them definitely suck, which is part of the problem. I get that the loot thing is cool and LE SOCIAL but constantly losing coffers, especially ones that have a weekly lockout, just feels fucking retarded. Even moreso if it was a lot of waiting for PFs to fill which just balloons the weekly time spend for what is ultimately just 1 page per fight
When do we get to see Ryne again in the MSQ?
part of the conversation but i don't have a specific person to reply to:is exclusivity holding back game design? is catering to people who want items/mounts/etc and others to not have them one of the reasons the genre is stagnating?
>>741480035Even as a ultimate raider, I thought those three, plus pre-nerf orbonne and merchant's tale advanced are like THE perfect content level. High individual lethality but high recoverability and low to no DPS checks. Chaotic alliance SHOULD have been that and phase 1 essentially was but phase 2 tiles and the body check associated with it pushed it over the edge
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TMDVB0LSZc4lmfao this got trans girls seething
Unironically, what Vidya would the Scions be into if they had them in their world?
modbeasts are the world's most embarrassing people
>>741480139yeah imagine an expert roulette with that difficulty level content in it, I think that would be a great way to pander to casuals while also converting some of them into hardcore players. I think people underestimate just how many casuals don't interact with Party Finder and mostly play the game through roulettes. If you join a normie FC you'll see "anyone up for X roulette?" all the time, so its not just a solo player thing.
Okay, Yoshida-san.Now kill stat stick game design.
>>741480126I don't think so, at least off the top of my head. Something being exclusive to a form of content yet being desirable motivates people to engage with that content. The sheer amount of people at DT's launch that did extremes for the wings was staggering. Probably the most that ANY extreme was engaged with, all because people really wanted the reward. I think you gotta put some of the nice rewards in places that are hard to reach so that players push themselves.
>>741480105i prefer redhead ryne desu
>>741480173Why are trannies so upset at him anyway? There are reddit witch hunts for this guy, and he has even said multiple times that he likes trannies and wants people to be whoever they are and fuck whoever they want to.
>picked the game back up after a 3 year hiatus in january of last year>play it almost every day since then catching up on everything and its my main game again >last month sub ran out and decide im in deep again so i should just do a 6 month resub>now im bored again and down want to play anymorecut my life into pisses....
>>741480361they view criticism of sena and kate as personal attacks on their own self
>>741479903I'm a lot more willing to engage with difficult content in singleplayer games than multiplayer ones. Public humiliation and shame from failure aren't really a good motivation for me to get better, but instead to just avoid that content entirely.
>>741480306how would you feel about current raid gear being purchasable with tomes? like say, 1500 capped tomes
>>741477653>can i play as a loporrit yetNever ever because they quite literally only live on the moon and only get discovered in EW
its weird that its almost july and we haven't heard about moonfire faire yet. holiday schedule is gonna be kinda tight because we have the rising right after too. I thought they would save the DQX event till later in the cycle
>>741480391That's so fucking weird, man
>>741480401That's its own fair point, one I share. I'll knock my teeth on a Kingdom Hearts bonus boss and get ragdolled but all I lose is my time. Like hell I wanna risk a situation where my death, even as a DPS, basically voids the run for 7 other people.
>>741480126eh, partially?I think it depends on the specific rewardslike mounts and cosmetics are fine as "prestige" rewards tied to specific pieces of content, because they're somewhat evergreen- new players are constantly cycling in, and some percentage of them will be willing to go farm that contentyou can also easily have a generic currency a la poetics that ensures you can have that thing eventually no matter what, it just takes longer if you never touch the contentnumerical power increases should generally be available to everyone eventually, with people who do higher end stuff getting their gear soonerI think the only category that needs to be equally available to everyone is actual game mechanics stuff, but outside of stuff that just doesn't exist in xiv (wow tier sets, for example) I can't think of too many cases like that
>>741480225Estinien would end up hooked on gacha games.
>>741480126>one of the reasons the genre is stagnatingThe reason MMOs are stagnating is because gachas are to zoomers what MMOs are/were to boomers. And because MMOs still generally require or expect more time investment than 10 minutes of gacha every day or whatever, there are even boomers who are converting to gacha because they have a job and a life and maybe even a wife and kids and stuff now. There's only so much "new market" that is possible, and gacha is winning that market.
>>741480225you just know Alisaie would have an excessive collection of romance VNs where the main guy looks suspiciously like (You)
>>741480405I'd be fine with it, especially since gear is copied. Maybe also make the middle difficulty give say 500/1000 progress on the savage weekly activity thingy, so you still get some rewards and slowly build towards bis while engaging with DF'd content, but never as fast as a full savage player.I'd honestly even float the idea of raid pages, coffers and 0% spiritbond items becoming tradeable, alongside other currently untradeable shit. ideally not marketboard'd so you gotta actually talk to a real human bean. They'd need to do something about the gil inflation that submarines bring, and then also realize that RMT will be a VERY real thing as soon as they do this, but there's a kernel of a good idea there. BIS doesn't really matter outside ultimate so why not, right?
>>741479983>>741479840>extremesSomething I've noticed is that there's way less fuss over EX trials compared to savage raids. If a new player wants to move on to tougher content, they can open PF and see a bunch of learning parties and low stakes EX trial groups. Hell, I still regularly see learning parties for Valigarmanda and Sphene. If they click on to the raid tab in PF they'll see about two dozen M9 groups with descriptions full of nonsensical terminology and strict gear requirements. None of them will advertise themselves as open to beginners or learning parties. It's a completely different barrier to entry than the EX trials despite them being not that far away in difficulty. It's feels impossible to break into savage raiding as a solo player with no pre-existing FFXIV friendgroup that's pulling you into the game.
>>741480421lame and gay, thanks for the answer so i don't have to lurk this thread any longerback to ai generating loporrits in bikinis i guess
>>741480568Pretty much all learning parties still expect you to watch some video and perfectly implement it.
>>741480465And with gear, crafted comes in and invalidates the old savage gear, so it's largely moot for many players
>>741480550i'm one of those aging millenials who won't play a game i can't put down at a moments notice. its liberating as hell, compared to the 6-8 hour raid sessions of my youth
>>741480568>descriptions full of nonsensical terminologyunironically a huge issue and I think it's a kind of brain cancer NA PF has. The fact that we ALWAYS have like 3 competing strats rather than a singular copypasta strat like JP (supposedly) has is a big reason why we can't raidfinder. Which means we have to play the retarded PF waiting game on top.
>>741480730parsing being less appealing due to rdps becoming 'boring' might help with the multiple strats issue
>>741480657XIV's the only game I really play that still has that quality, and scheduling raids is the only real reason it works for me. I know I can block out a few hours a few nights a week and get shit done still. I can't do PF shit though that's always horrible
>>741480225I can see Thancred getting hooked on momcore games like candycrush, the sims, and some generic comfy cottage core barista manager game.
>>741480774parsing needs to be swapped with just raw kill speed anyways
>>741480465I like it when things acquired through doing content could also be sold on the marketboardI think it adds some nice interaction to the gameplay loop, gives people opportunities to get rewards they might not otherwise get, and adds more money sinks to the economy which is always a good thing.
>garlean nigger larpers still seethingEW was a gift!
>>741480802i agree. speedkills are the appropriate way to measure skill in a cooperative game
>>741480804they've slightly done this with both CAR and V&C, but it's kinda double edged. A lot of people just never engage with the content cause they can buy it all with gil (from submarines) and content doesn't come out fast enough to outpace the 500k/day from a solo FC.
>>741480804for sure, crafted primal weapons are like the best example of thatif anything they should be re-implemented backwards from what they are now, you can buy the plain-jane version off the mb and you can upgrade it to the sparkly version if you kill the EX with that specific weapon equipped
>>741480838gil being useful is a good thing imo. i suppose the draw of merchant's tale would be the story and the boss fights. 4/5 of them are fun normal difficulty fights
>>741480550Zoomer here, is it a weird that I treat XIV as less of an MMO and more of a just a standard RPG that has a lot of content?I just like being able to create my own character and explore a fantasy world with a gameplay style I like based on my character and my preferences.Pretty much every gacha I've seen focuses heavily on premade characters, and if there is an MC, they're noncustomizable and utterly useless.
>>741480730It's also just a fundamental ideological difference. JP wants to clear. JP will use safe strats that have downtime, whereas NA insists on doing uptime strats even if the uptime strats are both retarded and unnecessary. JP is a "clear first" mindset, NA is a "parse first" mindset. The difference of "playing for the group" vs "playing for the self"
>>741480838the issue might just be that submarines are just too good at getting gil once you got them set up
>>741480926It is good, but the FC submarine thing is genuinely a huge problem.>>741480992I keep saying they should just cut the vendor price of those mats by 100x. Just lop 2 0s off the end and it'd be a huge change
>>741480802I've always liked how ESO chose to go about that with the scoreboard systemyour group gets points for how much time you have left on enrage, with an extra multiplier that drops for every time someone diedway less selfish retards intentionally causing wipes because they fumbled their opener or whatever
>>741480992submarines aren't the only source of gil. you get a lot more than you realize from roulettes, duties, quests, etc. a single treasure map dungeon generates ~50k gil per person per floor
>>741481043from my experience you get around 100k gil from doing all your roulettes, which I think is fine given that doing all of them can take some time
>>741481024>with an extra multiplier that drops for every time someone diedThat'd be real good. I think NA needs collective punishment to incentivize cooperation sometimes>>741481043Issue is all that per day is like maybe 100-200k. A submarine FC generates 500k daily and requires like 2 minutes of clicking menus, some routes do that average but only go every other day.
>>741481094there's far more people doing a couple roulettes a day than there are FCs with active submarines
>>741480564They just need to kill all raw gil rewards from subs. Rare drops that marketable are fine, as that can be controlled and drip fed at their leisure, but all the vendor junk you get that sells for gil needs to go, or be converted into the fuel for some other reward system.It's just way too easy to bot, which encourages creating thousands of worthless shell FCs for subs, which also contributes to the housing shortage because these sub only FCs are buying up tons of houses just to bot more sets of subsI would say they should make them accessible to everyone and not just FCs, but that would exacerbate the bot issue even more. It sucks though that an entire minigame is locked out of most people's reach.
>>741481359We're due for a new neighborhood in EC, the whole housing situation rn is just ridiculous
>>741481094>That'd be real good. I think NA needs collective punishment to incentivize cooperation sometimesFor NA I think that would just lead to more melties, the vast bulk of Am*ricans can't handle losing or being wrong, they will rip each other apart if someone else is the reason THEY aren't getting THEIR full rewards.
>>741477980>the average Mi'qote player.so raiders?
>>741481490part of the beauty of the scoreboard system is that you aren't going to score competitively without a dedicated static, it walls the compfags off away from the casual players who just want their clearsit's like that old image about why community servers are better than unified matchmaking in shooters and such
I need help deciding on which character to use my state issued fanta into (working on the color scheme clothing wise for the other two). I think they're all cute and am then riddled with indecision on the matter. Any input is appreciated, sincerely.
Remember Lyse? Cause the Scions sure don't seem to
>>741481812I miss my dumb punchwife
>>741481781well what kinda character personality are you going for/like the most? I like right the best because the hairstyle and the tan conjure up this tomboy image and when combined with the maid outfit there's some serious gap moe
>>741481781Right > Left > MiddleI don't really like the bun at all
>>741480838What kind of route gets you 500k/day
>>741481885>leftBookish indoorsy type, homebody of sorts>middleCool and austere while sweet and domestic. I'll admit I'm trying to find a gyaru angle but I can't see a good combination of colors that I like without compromising what I like about ffta viera>rightyou already nailed it with the tomboy angle. Can opt into either playing it straight or gap moe.
Thank you for reminding me to uninstall xiv after it's been sitting on my desktop untouched for 2 months
>>741466075Why are they like this?
>>741482092Kclose the thread, bye
post hideous grotesque modbeasts
>>741482172these types of cunts are plaguing the internet, poor vrchat was infested by them
>>741480034Nah, the biggest hurdle is the fight design of the high-end duties in this game. The fights work in a way where you can't really go and learn naturally by trying it, you "have" to watch a guide and everyone has to follow the same priority rules and strategies.Having to watch a guide and know what you have to do before setting foot in the fight is an expectation in this game, and 99% of people who do this kind of content play it like this.
>>741482254You can go to >>>/vg/ for thatWe don't do that here
>>741482406i still don't understand these kinds of orbiters, all they do is stand around their gigaboyfriend
>>741469010i member when people were up in arms over modded characters in OPs in HW through Shadowbringers, reputations were destroyed over ERP allegations, now every XIV character is gooned up with 5000 mods installed and full of e-daters.
>>741466075>>741465654People that mod their game in that way need to be fucking beheaded.Go to second life you faggots.>t. someone that mods the FUCK out of his character.
ok but what if I don't use character mods and exclusively use class overhaulschat am I based or cringe
>>741481951Is it a question of design or color scheme?
Xeno wonTroons lost
>>741483029If you mod your character and it looks like it would still fit visually in the universe hes in it's all good.I play a fucking werewolf character and he looks like he would be a legit playable race, granted i don't use retarded fuckboy outfits, always vanilla gear.
Genuinely want to find someone that thinks this is "cute" or "appealing" irl so i can slap the SHIT out of them.
>>741483056Maybe a bit of both? I don't think the dirty blonde hair goes particularly well with the dark skin or purple eyes, the lipstick colour is a bit to dark too, and the hair is kind of scraggly at the top and obscures the already-thin eyes, but that's just my opinion
Vanilla upscales are better than coombait or IMVU/SecondLife retardation
I join random syncshells just to feel disgust and anger.
>>741483350keep posting. your archival work is crucial
>>741483302That makes sense. Thank you for your input. I suspect I was juggling too many independent things that I like (e.g. stark lipstick, bangs, etc) and had too much of a incohesive approach.
>>741483393Don't have much more, most syncshells kick your for being inactive now, but if you want to see the garbage for yourself go to venues and join the syncshells there.
>>741483558i dont know what the fuck a syncshell is, though i can guess
>>741483614Essentially a group in the sync plugin, everyone on that group will be synced and will be able to see the modded characters.>go to a venue>join the syncshell for the venue>get zipbombed by shitty modded second life characters>grab a bucket and puke
>>741483663Or>get earraped by the most obnoxious custom emotes being spammedAt the same time>modded dj emote blasting shitty music at max volume
>>741483730I have the music disabled so that never happened to me.I gotta tell you though, hrothgar and viera players are the worst, hrothgars in specific deserve to be permabanned from this game.
>>741483350Weirdly I don't hate this one. It's not even trying to be realistic, to the point I can only see it as intentionally silly.
>>741482486All I need really cosmetically is>C+ for some modest slider tweaks>the mod that gives lalas the Elin walk/run animations because it's CUTEEverything else I use is class skill related
>>741483350I do wish we had better furry races
>>741483851There's only ever>gay dad hroths>gay hroth in a speedo/dress/something flamboyantly homosexualThere's basically nothing in between
>>741484450They are all blazing faggots.They all wear terrible outfits, make their characters look absolutely horrid in every way imaginable, then there are the ones that made them look fat, turn them into stupid pandas and shit.Fucking gross.
>>741472208Doesn't this one have a huge knotted dick?
>>741484952Should we be so lucky
Woah dude....did you just seriously queue for the newest dungeon without having first watched the Hector guide, reviewed the raidplan, simmed the whole instance on every role 20 reps each, no wrathcombo, no cactbot, and without BiS? Not even food and potions? Fucking yikes, dude, take that casual attitude back to WoW.
>>741466075Why even play a fantasy MMO anymore if you're going to mod it to just be the worst parts of Second Life.
>>741485757People treat the game like second life.I just modded mine because i genuinely don't like any of the races available so i made my own, he still looks like he would fit in the game visually.
>tranny fantasy xivNo.Just the fact there is no native setting in to turn off or hide other players' glams is disgusting and ruins my entire experience. And these degenerates somehow thinks they have a right as to how they appear on MY screen.Dogshit game.
>>741485941Seethe, cope, mald, you will always be a shadowbab. Silly costumes were around since 1.0.
Bad post, cute Lalafell.
>>741468559lack of bare feet is due to how the character models are rigged. the joints of the rig, like the hips and knees etc. are at a fixed position to ensure animations remain consistent. because of that they cannot change the height of characters based on what they are wearing. it's also why there are no heels in the game, just flat footwear made with the illusion of heels, so a lot of heeled footwear ends up looking weird with compressed shins. they could make a seperate rig, but they'd have to rework thousands of animations.modern games like infinity nikki, which has hundreds of different footwear with a variety of heel heights, have zero such issues because the devs built the character with a dynamic rig in UE5 that adjusts height based on footwear and uses procedural animations and IK to accomodate the differences in height.
>>741485819>he still looks like he would fit in the game visually.Cope
>>741485941>Just the fact there is no native setting in to turn off or hide other players' glams is disgusting and ruins my entire experience.Honestly at this point I think that's something they should seriously consider adding, because all these modernslop glams they've added to the game are completely shattering any sense of thematic cohesion or immersion the game once had.
>>741489387They lost most of their players and need to hold onto the quirky chungus 'my character is just like me,' types. That is why they keep dropping modernslop outfits.
Where the fuck are the bare feet yoshida.
>>741466075Disgusting.Flamethrower.
thighlander plapmeat
This is what I hate the most about modern "MMOs", the buttretarded nigger zoomer cosmetics.Both the players and the devs are utter subhumans for allowing it to happen and it's just telling how those games have no direction, the studio has no self-respect and the players are retarded.
>>741473862Endwalker wasnt good.
>people actually defending the lame ass modern clothingHoly shit kill yourselves.
BRING SPHENE BACK
Met and fucked so many hot but mentally unstable girls on FFXIV and eventually my current gf. Sadly I had to get a job will probably check it out again at the end of the 8.0. Pretty cool game but it peaked at the end of Shb/EW dont think we will ever see a resurgence coming close to that time period again.
>>741476663Shame we never got his armor
Finally got 40-star Chocobo M/F pairs on both characters. Now it's just mass breeding more of these and seeing how stat level ups are.My ultimate goal is: 500/250/500/500/500 stat spread with Foul Weather preference. Gonna do Choco Cure III and Super Sprint.I know I'm 10 years late, but literally had nothing else to strive for with these long term goals.
>>741494406Autism breeding made me quit chocobo racing forever. It's so fucking tedious.
>>741494742Its an MMO what else is there to do?
>>741494742It basically sucked my life for the past 3 weeks after I finished the CE tools and got all the goodies.The most annoying part was setting the colors I wanted in early gens, because there were times I'd get a god roll of stats on the offspring, but it did the other color. So I had to do inbreeding often, and around Grade 7/8 I finally did the challenges to unlock Cure 3 to start passing that down.
This is the world's greatest, most popular and most influential MMO with over 35 million players and we ALL like this. If you hate modding and addons so much, go back to WoW.
>>741496259Is the original video still up? I'm in the mood to fap now that I've resolved my dick condition from Fanfest
>>741481359Nobody is botting submarines. You set them up and come back 48-72 hours later to get your loot. This just reads like you’re mad you can’t do it.
>>741472257If you cannot see the difference between the heavily stylized, sci-fi+fantasy aesthetics of Final Fantasy vs literally modern streetwear and Cyberpunk rip-offs, you might be either completely artistically deficient or a damn liar.FF15 was the only FF that aimed for a lot of boring realistic designs, but even then they had creative armor and mechs for the empire.14 started with a great cohesive look with Allagan and Imperial stuff having unique styles but they have jumped the shark several times over now, giving up on trying to put a signature flair on things and instead making some of the most generic looking sci-fi and modern slop.
another fine day to play ffxiv
>>741474071It's directly an Amano design, doofus. Cunt.
>>741497278Autoretainer can handle submarines too, it's mainly a convenience that it'll do all the clicking for you. Like how I maxed out all retainers by letting it do the exploration setup for me each day.
>>741497378>Literally modern streetwearDo I gotta post Squall's model or something?
>>741498543Post the Gold Saucer employees in bunny outfits and dress suits that have been around since 2.51.
>>741498543When you do can you also post a real life picture of someone wearing what Squall wears (not a cosplay)?
>>741498720Also works. Aside from the weird lie that "FF has never had clothes that resemble modern clothing" and how obviously untrue that is, I also straight out do not get someone using "The Garleans and Allagans dressed this way" as an argument for why people from different cultures and Shards should also dress that way? Like yeah dude we have Shard-hopping fashionistas who ensured the 9th's fashion was cohesive with an extinct culture from the Source, get off it.>>741498779A dork in black jeans and a leather jacket with a fur trim? I mean it's outdated fashion now but that shit isn't remotely exotic.
>>741498953>A dork in black jeans and a leather jacket with a fur trim? I mean it's outdated fashion now but that shit isn't remotely exotic.Okay so you can post it then? I'm not seeing it.
>>741498953>I also straight out do not get someone using "The Garleans and Allagans dressed this way" as an argument for why people from different cultures and Shards should also dress that way?Because you were the one who cited Garleans and Allagan technology levels as a justification for hoodies in the first place and then you had to start backpedaling to Solution 9 when you got btfo.By the way can you post some Solution 9 characters wearing modern graphic t-shirts and hoodies?
>>741498979Really? I got immediate results on google. The only thing that took some digging was fur trim on men's leather jackets over women's.>>741499037>You started backpedalingOh hey it's the guy who doesn't understand what supposition or a derived point is again.
>>741499128>Really? I got immediate results on google.Okay so you can post it?>Oh hey it's the guy who doesn't understand what supposition or a derived point is again.Can you post any of the things I've requested?
>>741468238You got owned homie, doing the all caps shit is gay af
>>741499167I don't save pictures of real people on my computer, anon. It's not hard for you to type it into google, this is a really stupid looking attempt at an argument on your part.
>>741499256>I don't save pictures of real people on my computer, anon.Do you not know how copypasting works?>It's not hard for you to type it into googleIt shouldn't be hard for you to post any of these examples of real life Squall outfits you found, but here we are. Three posts in and you still can't post them. Why not?
>>741496259got kicked out of /wowg/ again I see
>>741499301Do you not know how posting images on 4chan works? I want you to realize that you just told me you can't find pictures of black jeans and leather jackets on google. Think for a second how dumb that is to claim those common clothing items aren't actually real.
>>741499372>Do you not know how posting images on 4chan works?Do you? Are you actually unaware that you can paste an image into your reply window?>I want you to realize that you just told me you can't find pictures of black jeans and leather jackets on google.Squall's outfit is more specific than that. Can you show me any of these examples you found? Can you do that like a big boy?>Think for a second how dumb that is to claim those common clothing items aren't actually real.So you can show me a real life Squall outfit that isn't a cosplay, right?
>>741499434Bro typing like a youtuber
>>741498953Thing is, something a lot of people fail to realize is that the modernslop clothing isn't really applied to NPCs randomly, except maybe during seasonal events (like the Songbird related ones).But whenever you're doing sidequests in each of the areas, they do a good job keeping things cohesive and nothing jarring.Like when they first added the modern-style clothing in PvP at end of Endwalker (I suppose it was their work for Solution Nine they gave us early), no NPCs outside of Solution Nine really wore that.
>>741499632Waiting on those images now that you know how to copy and paste.
>>741499674Bro is a fucking retard and doesn’t know who he’s replying to
>>741499764Those images? If you need more assistance, you can 'copy' an image by pressing ctrl+c, and then 'paste' it at your leisure with ctrl+v.
>>741499804Bro thinks anyone knows what the fuck he’s talking about
>>741499372>>741499434Exposed as a samefag instead of replying to himself hes now replying to me Bro was straight samefagging a fake argument and got sidetracked by one random insult
>>741499925>>741499858Waiting on those images any time.
>>741499962Bro thinks anyone has any clue what he was talking about Bro is so lost in the sauce he got confused over his own samefags
>>741499434>Squall's outfit is more specific than that.It really isn't unless you're going to tell me this isn't modern clothing because he has three belts on his leg.>>741499632I don't think he realizes how blatantly stupid he looks.>>741499641You're correct, the issue is I think this guy probably doesn't play the game and either wandered into a thread and got triggered at modern clothing 'clashing' with the style he assumes the game has (some autism thing) or else he's just incapable of walking back or clarifying a point. He said "These clothes don't belong in the game/franchise" and when it's shown to him why that doesn't make sense, he can't refocus onto the better point (though I don't agree with it) of "I think it's stupid for them to be rewards in events because x" because he sees ceding ground as some kind of loss on his part (autism or ego.) The issue right now though is that he probably replied to my point without actually knowing what Squall looks like, so he's stuck defending the argument that black jeans and a leather jacket aren't real/modern clothing despite how obviously stupid that is because of the previously established fact that he refuses to ever cede ground on anything.>>741499925Only that first post is me, you seem like you're losing your shit dude.
>>741500049Hey you figured out how to post images! Okay, so you're ready to show me all those real life Squall outfits you found on google, right?
I want to have sex with Elezen hags
>>741500049Bro having a melty after his gay ass samefagging as exposed
>>741499641On that note, I was thinking about maybe the only NPC that stood out, and it was the EW tool quest, the Miqote girl wearing the fireglass hoodie.When I play FF14 I have like three different experiences I choose to partake in with immersion.>My char in the delivered MSQ/story going along for the ride, so I wear the part.>My headcanon story with my chars for roleplay that's in the world but separate from MSQ>My char as simply a video game avatar playing with other people and we're all doing wacky shit. This is when I use my chars as avatars outside of FF14 too.So like when I'm doing MSQ/side content, I don't care about what others are wearing, I just know they're fellow players doing their thing.
>>741500114>bottom left
>>741500084>>741500124Where do you come from where acting stupid like this does anything but discredit you as a rational party? It's like you never grew out of arguing like a teenager.
I want to have sex with Padjali hags
>>741500234Still no images to post? Strange... You said you had so many.
>>741500084>>741500234Bro is actually retarded and faking “arguments” with himself
>>741500223I love Elezen
>>741500313I hate the plural 'elfs' instead of 'elves.'
samurai has too many fucking buttons
>>741500234>>741500278Bro had to bust out the phone to samefag more efficiently
>>741500147Yeah I can't really picture the rationality behind playing an MMO and getting upset other players aren't like, switching outfits when they move from Ul'Dah to Hingashi and the like. Expecting players to stay cohesive to every single culture at once would be insane.
>>741482172>both male>combined weight of 800 lbsImagine the smell of their goon caves
>>741500749Damn nice. I need to experiment with more body times and C+.Finally setup the latest Korosuke young face and used C+ to adjust the headshape and placement with the neck. Now just fine tuning loli proportions.
>hmmm let's get reacquainted with this job how about a quick normal r-fine It's not like I wanted to play anyways
>>741482172post the better version
>>741500894Nah I'm going to be real with you, weird fetishes like wanting a giant scuzzy punk boyfriend while being a tiny itty bitty innocent pink baby is 100% a biofem fetish. She probably is fat though.
Strange. He was so eager to reply before. I wonder where those images are?
>>741501021I think people can't take you seriously anymore when you argued leather jackets aren't real.
>>741501078You ready to post those real life Squall outfits you found?
>>741501021I lost track of who was talking to who about what. I'm just chocobo racing still. I might try to finish Challenge 14/15 before producing more babies.>>741500994I can attest to seeing this, but they'll still seethe over shota/loli stuff lol, despite them being 1 degree away from it.
>>741500282I am so glad we have people (and I use that word loosely) here willing to argue with themselves to the death about nothing, it really brings me back to the OF's glory days
>>741497617i am playing lego batman instead
>>741475205on a different note I wish we had Gaius gear available in the game
>>741501560I still wish for a magitek class.
>>741500937Every fucking time I come back to this game.Fuck this fight
>>741496259Is this an official HMV?Lmao
>>741501616wish granted, gunbreaker is a type of magitek
>>741498543Squall's outfit is clearly more grounded, and it works for FF8, but it's still not a 1:1 thing you'd see with mundane frequency. Just like you wouldn't see someone wearing a bunny girl outfit day to day.
>>741501758even if I absolutely stop everything I'm doing and focus 100% on the portals I STILL have no idea what to do
>>741501842You won't see it with mundane frequency because it's out of date fashion. There were indeed times where black jeans and a leather jacket was seen as really cool and fashionable, like when punk or emo was popular. When you say 'modern' you can't just exclusively mean popular everyday wear in the year of 2026, because that's a moving target. Would you be making the same argument if, next year, it became fashionable to dress in tunic and breeches? Would that become modern clothing and thus verboten in the series then, and would hoodies and t-shirts suddenly become acceptable? By modern I can only assume we're talking about an era instead, post-War to now, and so yeah that's going to include punk/emo fashion.
>>741501478You just know that Tataru also has an ass like that
>>741477595>>741477639/xivg/ in a nutshell
>>741465654I would but I don't like the endgame of XIV. There's just nothing to do unless you're a hardcore savage/ultimate raider. I wish it had some kind of real M+ equivalent.
>>741501872huh? it's so simple>red/blue portals are always a single diagonal movement>light/dark portals are always "line up vertically with the opposite color and horizontally with the same color"
>>741502129XI/v/'s problem with thread personalities is there's around five of them, two of them are thread spammers, two of them keep to themselves, and the fifth one is more of a /vg/ troll than anything/xivg/'s problem with thread personalities is they're on a 24/7 revolving door of in and out to the point even the thread's users are frustrated and confused on who the fuck anybody is or why they're pretending they're long-established people everybody likes or needing to reclaim their thread honor, some are very determined thread spammers as displayed by the time on .moe, and most of them have tiresome post gimmicks and know it
>>741478472Easiest way to fix it:Allow players to vote to skip cutscene but keep the vote secret, if all players vote to skip then it's skipped.But it will never happen because exp bonus and other rewards are calculated based on time required to do the duty so (some) people skipping cutscenes would mess with that.
>>741479983>Losing for several hours in a row just isn't fun, and will never be funThe issue is, there has to be a middle ground between that and the current state of normal mode raids. The famed "midcore" content level they've been able to achieve a few times, but never really maintain for extended periods.Doing normal raids/alliance raids on launch day can feel like it, where the damage going out is real and the consequence for failing mechanics is death. But these get scaled to the point of being trivial within the same patch. Advanced criterion is pretty right on the money I think, it's more mechanically challenging than a normal mode but still lenient enough that you can scrape by in one pull, especially in a theoretical 8-man mode.
>>741502430
>>741502129>/xivg/that's not a problem with a single general, or even a single board. that's this entire fucking website for the past few years
>>741502609Quite a lot of it is just the mods enabling it, see stuff like deleting a whole thread instead of cleaning up a lunatic shitting his pants in it. All that scorched-earth modding did was teach lunatics they're the real moderators if they can shit their pants in a thread and guarantee its deletion
>>741502486How rude!
>>741466075first time a game needs anti cheat
>>741502743>cosmetic mods are cheating
>>741494406This is the best I ever got, and it was good enough to beat Teioh/Star Breaker/Hermes pretty consistently so that was good enough for me
>>741502430>this is what lucky 3 liners get
>>741502778ruins the perception of the game, should be nuked from orbit
>>741502425>the current state of normal mode raidsIt's tragic man, you queue as a tank and unless you get A5, A9 or O12, there is absolutely that can even touch you. They gotta make auto attacks hurt in normal content, it's so boring just pressing all of your cooldowns only when you get the funny red marker on you and that's good enough
>>741481094>A submarine FC generates 500k daily and requires like 2 minutes of clicking menusYeah but it requires like 50h of investment though. I was considering getting into solo sub business but it seems not really worth it (I get average 500k - 1,5mil from the market, much more time than subs but whatev)
>>741502981I don't run this game's Twitter account, I don't give a FUCK how the game is perceived by outsiders whose first contact is somehow with niche Second Life mods
>>741503063Still averages out even with time investment to the single most gil-profitable source of player controllable income in the game
>>741503063it also takes about 6 real months for submarines to start generating all that gil. not to mention fuel
>>741503072when faggots used to put (mare) in their fucking adventurer plates to signify they were using mods to other modders then it's obviously gotten out of hand. none of these retards know how to control themselves, heck one time i complimented someones glam only for them to message me saying that they didn't even know what they were wearing because their entire character was modded.
>>741503175>>741503072
>>741484450we, straight hroths, are a rare breed and we remain in the shadowswould unironically join all hroth FC if I weren't straight
>>741503285>straight hrothsthat's an oxymoron anon
>free login event rolls around>log in>admire my femroe in char select>remember how shit the game is now>quit gameTSED
>>741502076No, at no period in time were outfits like Squall's the norm unless you frequented some underground edgy cowboy+biker hybrid gay sex bars in Japan. Overuse of vestigial belts and zippers were never the normal. I think we can at least agree on the distinction between normal and alternative fashion, yeah?Anyway, you could make that same argument about Tifa. Yes, the core aspects of her outfit are normal. Sleeveless crop top, leather miniskirt, boots, suspenders, gloves. You wouldn't bat an eye at seeing those things in real life. But it's the accessories and the way it all comes together that sets it as something that feels FF and not just a queer outfit. Not everything has to be a complex 100 piece ensemble, but if I can look at it and recognize it as something I could put together with the clothes in my closet then it has, in my opinion, been a failure of fantasy design.
>>741480126yes and the only options to get the items is>be a savage level raider>have billions of gilfucking SUCKS. if the item is going to be exclusive, make it grind related like the triple triad jam on toast. anyone can get that, anyone could get it when it was new. you don't need to be a raider and you don't need to be a p2w RMTer with 1billion gil>inb4 wahhhh gil is easy to makeif you RMT, own a sub (also RMT) or play the game like it's a full time job sure.
>>741493302>Met and fucked so many hot but mentally unstable girls on FFXIV and eventually my current gf.How though?>mentally unstable girlswet water
>>741502076Those images? Still waiting.
>>741503470there's only a handful of items that are worth more than 10m and none of them are exclusive to raiding. RNG is the gatekeeper there. so i do not believe gil is the problem there
https://files.catbox.moe/0qz5zr.pngI like how you can tell whether a modded character was made by a girl or a guy.
>>741502778The same avenue of modification is what allows a ton of rampant unchecked cheating, yeah.Also, because this is just as easy to mod, I'm sure Squeenix would agree that using mods to get cosmetics they lock behind payment or difficult content is a form of cheating.
>>741503596>The same avenue of modification is what allows a ton of rampant unchecked cheatingarguing there's a mod injector that allows cheating the same as it allows cosmetic mods is a pretty fundamentally shit argument that removes responsibility from the cheat developer and places it onto the platform>Squeenix would agree that using mods to get cosmetics they lock behind payment or difficult content is a form of cheating.yoshida mentioned this one in a blog post once and said he doesn't really give a fuck
>>741503573>handfulthere's a lot of mounts that cost mucho gil. I don't care about minions
How do I stop being shit at this game?
>>741503596Some of the FFXIV subreddits are really really horny for this false equivalence of cosmetic mods to raid and PvP cheating.
>>741503725which ones? there's 3 mounts that cost gem vouchers and then the 5(?) golden skin mounts
>>741503817You stop caring and realize that it doesn't matter if you're shit at this game, it's trash. There isn't a soul on earth that would be impressed by you being good at XIV.
>>741503578Get this bitch some Chick-Fil-A
>>741503840Maybe you should stay on reddit.
>>741503414Anon I know you are too young to know what I'm talking about but you can legit just look up the punk or emo subcultures online.>Overuse of beltsArguing Squall's outfit isn't modern just because he's got belts on his leg, come on dude. That's an accessory.>It's the way it comes together...The person I was originally arguing with tried to make the point that modern clothing in general was unacceptable, which is why discussing subcultures is valid. It's also why your argument, that the clothing the game is adding lacks the 'extra pizazz', the flashiness, to make them feel like modern-style FF, is completely different than what I was trying to address. If you want to say the clothing is boring/plain then I can agree, it doesn't look very good, but the issue isn't that it's modern, just that it's uninspired. It doesn't feel like Nomura fashion, which is what someone who liked FF7 or 8 or even 10 would want.
>>741503917How dare you know that this is a shitty argument against mods even by Reddit's standards. I hereby banish you to the Reddit hinterlands so I can keep using this shitty argument without people knowing where it comes from.
>>741502275I cannot process all that in the ~10 seconds the game gives you to figure it out
>>741503958Those pictures you found on google? Still waiting. You said you had so many to choose from.
>>741503470>if the item is going to be exclusive, make it grind related like the triple triad jam on toastRaiding is a grind, just because it's a grind YOU don't want to do doesn't mean raiding should have no rewards at all
>>741503984Bud you just claimed knowledge of what goes on on multiple FFXIV subreddits. Take your feminized attempt at replacing arguments with social shame back where you belong.
>>741503885Shishioji Sabotender Quaqua all of the faux hollow mountsBarreltender >>741504025shut the fuck up retard. having none, and I mean ZERO, value on your time is not my problem. when you grow up (physically, not mentally because you never will), you'll understand that time is short. xiv raiding is trash and has been since alexander
>>741504065No shit, Sherlock. Your rivalry with Reddit is 15 years out of date and it was one-sided in the first place.
>>741504025is it really a grind if you can pay someone to bypass it?
>>741503687Yes, the platform is a problem because it allows cheating. There will always be people trying to find ways to cheat, and doing virtually nothing against it is the issue. Just because some people do it in a way that is perceived as harmless doesn't mean it should be allowed.
>>741503578I like this flat cat
>>741504132>Yesnocosmetics to cheating is a false equivalence
>>741504113There's no rivalry. Reddit is a shithole of a website filled with shithole "people" like you who believe truth is determined by consensus. Go back.
>>741504186Oh, God, it's one of those that comes to 4chan for "good faith arguments" he never seems to get anyways.
>>741504230Don't pretend to be Christian.
>>741504289Oh, God, it's a bot.
FFXIV: Combat Devolved
>>741504230>redditor admitting he only comes here to shit himself
>>741503817imo, practice your rotation on a dummy. pay attention to how things naturally line up at each minute and 2 minute. get comfortable enough with doing the optimal rotation that you don't need to be staring at your hotbars all the time (you're SoL if you're dancer for that).Then start paying attention to the fights you're doing. Dungeons, normal mode raids/trials, and alliance raids are easy enough but have a lot of the basic mechanics so familarize yourself with those. For extremes/savage, the big thing is learning the order that mechanics resolve so you don't move too early/late.
>>741504171Sleep well, doc
>>741504297You're not a Christian, so don't go out of your way to capitalize God's name because you somehow think it's gonna win you brownie points. What a disgusting piece of shit you are. Just like a redditor.
>>741504354nta but my issue is fatfingering the buttons if I'm not looking at them, more than not knowing my rotation. I am not very dexterous.
>>741504109I don't understand your logic, every grind takes time, it's practically the definition of the word>>741504115You could say the same for the orange gatherer scrip tokens, any map mounts, unreal, and any other content that has a marketable mount drop. And those are with just gil, you could theoretically pay someone to do whatever grind you want on your account
>>741503840>false equivalenceBoth break the rules, both rely on a lack of anticheat, both are modifying the game in ways that were not intended by the developers. The same argument that cosmetic mods don't affect others so it shouldn't matter can apply to all the cheating that occurs outside of PvP. Who cares if an increasing amount of people use bots to farm their relic weapon, doesn't affect me!
>>741503817If you're a straight, white, male adult take this advice >>741503890If you're a cringey 23 year old asian boy, take this advice >>741504354
>>741504424raiding isn't a grind. it's practicing rote memorization
>>741504340>4channer makes a bad false equivalence between mods and cheating>redditor is aware this bad argument is pretty common on subreddits for this game>4channer squeals and shits over reddit, heedless of where his bad argument came from>other 4channer squeals and shits about christianity to get as far away from the topic as possible
>>741504418I used to be a "constantly stares at hotbar" guy, and I think it just took me a lot of time getting familiar with my job via roulettes to the point where it became muscle memory
>>741504424correct. so any goal you can reach by exclusively using any method other than time spent in that activity is not a grind. its a grind to learn savage. its not a grind to clear savage. you can buy the rewards. you can't buy the fight knowledge or muscle memory
>>741504448one is a soft rule-break the game's staff do not go out of their way to detect and punish, the other is cheatingrules lawyering your way into cosmetic mods being the same thing as cheating with, coincidentally, more false equivalences of "doesn't affect me" for multiplayer content vs. cosmetic mods you have to opt-in to seeing is not working and i suggest not continuing it
>>741504489>i don't want to acknowledge my double standard so it's a false equivalence>also i've already admitted that i only come here to shit myself and don't consider any discussion here to be in good faith but ignore that
>>741504418that just means you need practice, and potentially need to think about binding keys in a more organic way for your rotation. if you got skills that are only ever pressed back to back in your burst, making sure they're easy to press one after the other is a huge help, rather than forcing yourself to go all over the keyboard for a double weave.
>>741504590>and don't consider any discussion here to be in good faithThis is just smart for anybody that's used 4chan for longer than twenty minutes
>>741504632Redditors do believe that yes
>>741503958I wanted to pivot to explicitly saying normal and mundane because yes there were punks and goths wearing weird shit, that's what inspired the alternative fashion in Japan which then inspired some of the designs in FF. My bone to pick is when I see something in FF that I'd expect to see on a normal day IRL, especially something at work, boring and uninspired, yeah. Polo shirts, graphic t's, etc.
>>741504659That advice predates Reddit albeit
>>741504695>i'm a deranged judaeized persnickety redditor faggot who assumes everyone is as dishonest as me but you should assume i'm correct and telling the truth
>>741504782Any more adjectives to prop yourself up as a bigger oldfag that doesn't know Digg ever existed, or is that all for today
>>741504171How? Unintended, unsupported vulnerabilities are what allows both things to occur.
>>741504676Alt fashion often involves taking normal outfits and doing weird shit to it. Like taking your normal jeans (workman's wear) and tearing holes in them or snipping them short with scissors. Then it gets popular and becomes normal fashion, so it's not alt anymore, so then you take something normal and do weird shit to it... etc. So the issue is like we said, that there's no flair to the modern clothing, it's just too plain. The graphic-t is the most maligned outfit because it looks like shit, yeah, but I can absolutely imagine someone doing something punk with the concept and adding that flair. The game just doesn't.
>>741504532"Buying the savage rewards" is something you have to do through other players, you can't do it on the marketboard. And buying services through other players is something you can do with ANYTHING in the game, I've heard of RMT sites offering even shit like the pterodactyl mount.To go back to the original point of "this is why they shouldn't have rewards exclusive to savage", I'm curious what you think a better system would be? Just removing those rewards entirely or making them obtainable some other way than clearing savage?
>>741504864>Unintended, unsupported vulnerabilitiesDevs have repeatedly said they don't care for the past decade; "unintended, unsupported" comes across as projection on your own part for this issue
>>741504848>diggPlease we don't need any more proof of your sheer levels of faggotry.
>>741504354You can dancer without staring at your hotbars, the job bars have all you need to react to.
>>741504928Sorry your whole personality is using 4chan anon
>>741504482Rote memorization is grinding something until you remember it. It's just limited by your brain plasticity instead of time gating or drop rates.
>>741504906i'm the one that posited the original question here >>741480126i'm a proponent of mercenary culture in mmos. so i have no issue with the best gear in the game being buyable with in game currency. i'm also a proponent of literally all rewards in game, from experience points to super cool mounts and weapons, should be grindable by super casuals. the reward of degenerate grinding should be expediting the process. bicolor gemstone vouchers are an excellent example of what i'd like to see more of. consider the time to be the currency rather than the tomes/gil/etc
>>741504931The issue is GCD procs and fan dance 3 procs aren't on there. Granted you can just look at the buff indicator as it shows up but that's a lot more visually cluttered especially on dancer
>>741505095I think everything being directly grindable by casuals is a mistake especially if you DO have that mercenary culture. You want people to find a nice niche that they can do for profit in those cases. Let less casual players grind raids and sell the loot to the casuals, who are grinding other content to sell rewards to the hardcores.
>>741504578A "soft-rule break" is still breaking the rules. It's not enforced because it's untenable to do so when they've resigned to not implementing any real anticheat or file modification detection whatsoever. Full-blown cheaters also get away with it all the time, until it becomes a scandal.They both benefit from the same lack of anticheat, they both would be stamped out by an anticheat. It stops being a false equivalency when there are so many connections and relationships between the two.
>>741505401it's not enforced because they don't care, anon
Dalamud enables pluginsPlugins enable rampant, unchecked cheatingCosmetic mods don't require Dalamud, we had Textools for that before Dalamud, and Textools doesn't enable plugins or the rampant, unchecked cheating that comes with itKilling Dalamud will not kill cosmetic mods, it will only kill the easy use of them, and gate their use behind some measure of computer literacy, meaning less people using them which reduces the amount of casual degeneracy in the communityKilling Dalamud and all the cheating it enables is a necessity for a healthy game going forward
>>741505550>>741505550
>>741503326that's the official version and we'll make sure it stays that way
>>741505550Oh yeah? Well reddit probably thinks that.Also reddit is great.Bet you feel pretty stupid now dontcha?
>>741503470how is owning a sub RMT?also Squeenix literally allows RMT by selling extra retainer service, extra retainers = more inventory, more sales slots, more ventures = more gil
>>741505841Way to own that guy.
>>741504919Unsupported is plain reality, they don't create the modding tools nor facilitate their use intentionally.
/xivg/ please get off my board
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>>741505886Slow day in the dogfucker thread on /trash/?
Been thinking of getting back to this. I have level 80 something reaper but the thought of picking up a class I haven't played in years demoralizes me.
>>741505997That is such a specific kneejerk reaction.
>>741506017you should progress through life with the confidence of a freshly boosted character who's literally never played that class before and queues up for roulettes
>>741504315Unironically good change. Some jobs have simply too many buttons. I have like over 30 buttons mapped on my keyboard and sometimes it's not enough.
>>741504482>it's not a grind because... I'm delusionaloutstanding argument, xir
>>741504515sometimes it's also a matter of good hotbar managementI used to struggle with NIN when my mudra were on R T F G but then I moved them onto Z X C V and suddenly played 'a lot' better.Also helps when you have some standardised things, like mits/role skills on the same hotbar, or similar kind of skills in the same place, like practically all my melee jobs have ranged attack on shift + 3
>Unironically good change. Some jobs have simply too many buttons. I have like over 30 buttons mapped on my keyboard and sometimes it's not enough.
>>741501231What was that guy's name? All I remember is him and his weird takes
>>741506487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
>>741506487A job isn't higher skilled or designed better just because it has more buttons.
>>741505108You can see the procs from the scrolling combat text buff, no?
