>game dev listens to your review>game gets better
>game dev listens to your review>game gets worse
>>741508486EXCUSE ME SIR
>game dev retweets your fanart
>game dev listened to your review>game dev wants to make game better>investors say no, for mysterious reasons
>game dev listens to your review>game changes nothing because it was a written review
>dev removes NTR because paypigs are mad.
>>741508930Terrible feeling. I once gave feedback on a game and the devs implemented it resulting in the second game not having as good of reception of the first. Made me realize not all of my ideas are good since while the mods I've made have millions of downloads, that doesn't always translate into being right every time.
>>741509636What game is that? I think I vaguely remember a gacha that removed lines about another male because players were mad.
>>741508486>game dev listens to the loud normalfags>game becomes shit
>>741509389At what point do devs keep saying this before people realize they suck at their job? Everything I've ever heard about Destiny 2 before Marathon came into the equation was almost every new thing added either sucked dick or came with some annoying caveat. Makes it hard to believe how people can express sadness over Destiny 2 eating shit when it sounds like it would've been only been downhill still with another new Destiny.
>>741510967>game dev listens to the loud autists>game becomes shitEu5Fuck Meiou niggers and fuck Paradox forums
>>741508971EXCUSE ME TROON
>>741508486>game dev listens to you masturbate while hiding in your bed>game gets better
>>741508486>game crashes and burns>dev says they will suck my dick and eat my shit
>>741510392Ok, now you made me curious about what game are you talking about and what change they did.
>>741510392Share with us your best and worse ideas so I can tell if they are stupid or not.
>>741508486I liked the comic, loved it even
I love talking to devs
>leave scathing review and point by point dismantling of everything wrong with the game on steam reviews >dev responds having a full emotional breakdown and apologizing>feel absolutely fucking awful about it even though the state of the game legit made me angry at him
>leave a really meanspirited and offensive review>devs thank me for sharing my opinion
>>741508486name 1 (one)
>>741511117I've never spoken to anyone who has put substantial time into Destiny 2 and described it as a positive experience but I've never actually been able to pinpoint whats so bad about it.
>Make a suggestion on the forums>Detailed description of mechanics, visual aid, diagrams and shit>No replies, no engagement>I guess it wasn't that good of an idea>Fast forward 3 months>Suggested feature gets implemented>People are going insane at how much more convenient it made the game for them and how glad they are to have the feature
>>741515579From what I understand it becomes a messy slog when you get to the more end game content, and the devs made mistakes with balancing and updates that made the experience worse
>release game>get several positive reviews and a single negative one>"I liked this game but *complains about a missing QoL feature*>said feature is literally included in the game and he somehow missed it
>>741508971Excuse me saar.
>single dev game>dev has infinite patience, accepting toward implementation of new/altered features, and isn't a huge fagFeels good man.>came here and got ran off when someone pretended to be him, calling everyone else niggers
>>741515715>game has no tutorial! downvoted>the game does have a tutorial, but it's a menu option, not something you're forced to playStuff like yellow paint is put into games for a reason
>>741508930I'm scared that I did this to the dev of my favorite deckbuilder. It has like 40 reviews so he gets basically no feedback except for me, and at this point half the game is just my ideas, and he's burned out on development and isn't doing anything and I'm worried I ruined the game for him with my ideas that he felt obligated to add because of how dedicated I am.
>>741510392took me a while to realize "free and popular" doesn't always translate into "paid and popular" toohard lesson to learn
>>741509636Good. NTRetards must suffer.>>741510895I don't get why you would make a game for broken men whose only recourse is imagining themselves having sex with anime women in bad games, and then you just shatter the illusion and remove the only reason to play your bad game.
>>741515343I know a dev who gets badly hung up on negative reviews and I had to teach him not to engage with them for the sake of his own sanity.Your story reminds me of Kiseff breaking down on Atlyss steam forums because of complaints made about changes to one of the classes. It hurt to see him letting a bunch of retards get under his skin. He's a good lad but he's so unstable, he shouldn't ever have to talk to his playerbase.
>>741515779He kinda should've known known better than to expect a courteous greeting from this place. Should've at least gotten a tripcode, that's literally what they're made for. Kind of on him for being a dork.
>>741508930>game dev listens to subhuman streamers>game immediately dies after
>>741510967ULTRAKILL whiplash nerfs
>>741516419name one game where that actually happened
>>741508930>fighting game dev listens to your feedback>but they go further than what you suggested>game gets worse>character you actually enjoyed fighting is now 3x rarerOops
>>741516207No dev should talk to their playerbase, not even in cases like the OP, unless it's about things adjacent to the game like monetization.Creating the experience you envisioned is the whole point. You might not please everyone, but that can still be something worthwhile. In the worst case that you're bad at it and can't do something worthwhile, that's still better than just outsourcing the design of the game.
>>741516640World of Warcraft: Classic.
>dev watches your speedrun with thinly veiled disdain
>game dev listens to your review but is unable to implement your suggestion
>>741517235We're 42 posts in, you can't end the thread this early with Dandylion.
>>741516640The Culling
>>741517498Fuck you for reminding me
>>741517092Truth be told on rare occasions there exist people who understand your intent and see your vision but are able to give you a perspective on something that you've not considered before. They ARE exceedingly rare, and it can be a challenge for a dev to try and filter out all the screeching from normalfags to listen to the couple people who get it, but it can end up rewarding for the end result if you do happen across one or a couple of those people. I happen to be one of them, and most of my ideas, when implemented, benefited the games even according to other players.
>>741514294kek
>>741516640Planetside 2
>>7415136472026 version of spamming the n word but somehow gayer
>>741517235
>>741517235kek
>>741517930>the n word?
>>741517764>Hiring a youtuber with zero experience who was also dogshit at the game to be your lead designerI will never not be mad at so many things that happened at SOE/Daybreak.For fuck sake planetside 1 was the ultimate mmofps all they had to do was freshen it up graphically and gameplay wise instead of making a "battlefield on steroids".
>>741518213Nintendo
>>741518256What did he even do anyways? I liked his gun reviews back in the day but I never really followed what he did at SOE.
>big chinese dev listens to your english-wrote message in "contact support" section of game, complaining about a minor bug with text i haven't seen anyone online reproduce>gets fixed in 2 days????
>>741518937I've seen this same shit with korean devs too. They have some damn good work ethic.
>Go to Dev with crashlog that has a console message pointing to a specific part of code where something went wrong>"Yeah too hard" *close*
>>741511347You must be joking. EU5 at release was an infinitely better game than EU4 with all the DLCs.If any, the game that they truly fucked beyond redemption was Victoria 3, considering it's nothing alike to its predecessor.
>>741509636Tntrd
>>741509389>for mysterious reasonsLack of money is not a mysterious reason.
>leave negative review>quickly get a "1 person found this helpful" >look at all the other reviews>they all at least have "1 person found this helpful">realize it's the dev
>>741508486>game dev doesn't listen to your review>game bombs
>>741508486>free game>didn't even play it>leave a terrible review>new game>chuds don't like it>leave an absolutely positive review on how beautiful and creative and wonderful and amazing and perfect the game is>only played it for 48 minutes>never actually finish it
>>741508486>game keep listening to youtubers>game keep getting worse
>post balance feedback in a public forum>get called a retard>e-celeb publishes a video saying the exact same thing as you a day later>everyone agrees with them
>>741509389>game dev wants to make game better"Sunsetting" content says otherwise
>>741517235>game dev knows his limits and states them in earnest
>>741508930reviews for games are more pointless the more you think about it>the dev is supposed to listen to feedback to improve the game>except sometimes the audience doesn't know shit and their suggestions would make the game worse>other people are supposed to read the reviews and use them to judge whether they should buy the game>except, again, people like/dislike things for retarded reasons and have vastly different tastes
>>741524119The only worth reviews are about bugs or glitches, imho.
>>741518937I'm a big fan of Lost Castle 2 and I find it interesting just how absurdly buggy the game is while the devs are fixing most of the things I report at mach speed.
>game dev deliberately prevents other devs from reading reviews
>>741524119In the context of game reviews the retarded democracy of steam reviews is slightly less bad than the incestuous low IQ evil corruption of the game journos. There is no winning move, but with steam reviews the industry loses less.
>>741524119That's where professional game critics are supposed to come in: people who are very knowledgeable about a genre and can understand mechanics, their implementation and can give actual constructive criticism.Unfortunately, it didn't quite turn out this way...
>game dev reads my review>adds me on Steam
>>741524119I hate that the standard is now "follow various eclebs to the point where you can know their likes and dislikes in contrast to you own and triangulate from there".
>>741516640ffxivany MMO really
>>741508486>game dev keeps updating niche game after a decade
>>741509636Based
>>741508930
>played a character in a fighting game>get so good literally dominate the game with the character>go to tournaments to prove>wins multiple tournaments with the same character>game dev notice this>game dev decided to nerf the character>character goes shit
>>741528032>dev updates niche game weekly for like 3 months out of spite Path of Achra dev is based
>>741528032>Dev makes and releases an entire DLC based on some schizo's gibberish on the forums
>>741515579I've got 700 hours in it and probably everything after 400 was because my friends kept pushing me to join and bought me the DLCs and stuff>Grinding to soft cap is easy, every piece of gear gives you an increase in power>After soft cap, it's hard to find gear that increases your power until hard cap (it's been a while, pretty sure this is how it works)>At hard cap, you can only get like 6 or so pieces of gear that increase your power a week and it's not guaranteed that you won't get the same weapon/armour slot, meaning you wasted that roll for the week>Only other way is to do raids for like another 4 rolls but 90% of the LFG discord is people who want 200 clears of any given raid>DLC comes out>They somehow break things that have worked since Destiny 1>If you don't own the DLC, you're locked out of getting some hard cap rolls because the nightfdfall dungeon for the week is a DLC dungeon>People will be like "Well yeah, you don't own the DLC, why would you get the content?" >Don't want the content, I want the rolls>Every update they introduce new bugs, broken loadouts, or break stuff>They brought out a DLC where if you were wearing specific armour and logged out, you can't log back into the character unless you use 3rd party software to take the armour off your character>There's a meta way to play and if you don't play that meta way, you're doing 10% of everyone else's damage>There's no rolls, you only build boss damage except for the guy who has divinity>PvP is an unbalanced, laggy sweat fest>The story sucks>Raids are so cryptic for no reason that anyone outside of the first few people to get it simply wait for guides to come out >Trying to figure out raids is the only fun thing in the game but no one bothers after the first day because by the second, there's already a full guide out >It becomes a fomo slog of "if I don't play every mode every week, I fall behind"When I hear my friends play, they only complain about every little thing
>you demolish game dev with X class in his game>he nerfs it to death next patch out of rage >class was objectively dogshit
>game dev keeps adding irrelevant shit instead of actually fixing the game
>>741532901>lonely autist working overtime to seethe in every thread looking for cat picturesMany such cases!
>company sues company over made up imaginary things, shoots its own head in the process
>>741515526I remember I had wrote scathing review of horror walking simulator Home and soon after it got its first update in several years addressing two of the points I raised.Not that improved the game, but...
>>741508486>Developers literally do not know what makes their game actually fun>Developers aren't even good at their own game and play it on the middle of the road skill levelRogue Core has led me to believe DRG was a fluke.
>>741533102Poor little autist absolutely mindbreaky by Janny, bet he cried himself to sleep after his melty got shut down huh?
>developer promises a big update soon>soon never comes
>>741533174Every cat picture posted to 4chan gives him an aneurysm. You can help!
Poor little autist can do nothing but project and age regress!Sad case to see
>>741516029Stop self inserting
>>741517235>>741523546lmao
Did this thread get invaded by 5 year olds or something what are these dogshit posts?
>>741533443Third worlders that unironically think cats are food and not friend.
>>741533443There's a schizo who's made it his life's mission to spam his stupid catchphrases whenever he sees a cat picture. Just ignore and report. Or post more cats. Better yet, post something on-topic. Fuck Meet Your Match.
Looks like lonely autist got banned again! Are we in for another tantrum of abuse spam?Mods=gods as usual!
>>741508486Name ONE example (you can’t)>>741508930Many such cases.
>>741511117D2 was in many ways not as good as D1 but also more mechanically complex than D1 ever was, so its a mixed bag.Same with new content, some was shit some great, some just okay. Overall there really was nothing like it tho, ahd all the games that tried to imitate it didn't understand the nuances either.And well, this final update LITERALLY added everything people been asking Bungie for for YEARS, some stuff literally wanted since D2 came out.
>>741508486Doom Eternal.I bitched to Hugo Martin for mod tools for years.>>741508930Binding of Isaac Rebirth.Fuck you Tyrone.
>>741508486>Multiplayer game by the guy who made killing floor and Depth>Chinks start flooding into the game>Hey devs you might want to make a china-only server because they're going to kill the game via hacking/cheating>YOU PEOPLE ARE RACIST, THE CHINESE ARE NOT INVADING THE GAME AND THEY ARE NOT CHEATING>Game dies in the next month because nobody wants to play with cheaters>He then made a huge rant about how he's never going to make a multiplayer game again because the community is toxic and racist
>>741508486>>741508971>>741533879Someone please explain this meme to me. I know all about the boys ending and how the comics end but I don’t understand how that correlates with Charlie’s Inferno
>>741532747>game devs keeps autistically adjusting and balancing things when everyone is asking for more content
>>741509389>>741511117I never played Destiny because I don't have any consoles, but didn't the first Destiny have so many flaws? I remember it distinctly being like a 7/10 game. I was honestly shocked when it got a sequel. Normally games that suck or are incredibly mid do not get sequels. And since it was made by the same people. my belief is that Destiny 2 is mid as well. So why are people complaining that it's being shut down over Marathon, a game that actually sucks and is 6/10 at best?
>>741508930>game dev listens to your review>game gets worseI complained about The Ancient Gods being too hard now that I remember because I was stupid and I did not git gud.By the time I got gud, TAG was nerfed.I also ruined a kids tv show because I got nervous live and hang up but my phone somehow blocked other calls and it was my favorite show. My number was blocked and could not try again, I also ruined an entire taping session.I am deeply ashamed of both actions, I ruined something beatiful.
>Game dev embraces discord community and makes it official server>Dev troons out, game quality significantly nosedives and dies months later
>>741534079Fear and hunger soon.Trannies have utterly raped the game to pieces and the dev is too much of a pussy to not do what they say
>game dev listened to the discord
>game dev only looks at his discord>game direction heads in the interest of 35 year old tranny freaks who don't even play it
>>741533959tiktok amv (i guess you could call it) of edited/"animated" comic panels set to the song
>>741534325Ya I get that but like WHY is it a meme. I don’t get the humor
>>741534380idk, best i've been able to gather is that that animation got associated with secondaries (or larpers as the kids these days call em) so people use it as a base for memes about them
>>741508930>Helldivers_2.png
>>741533762I won't. But Sseth.
>>741534380I think it's partially an off shoot of those wobbly Invincible edits, but it's also use to meme on the comic ending for The Boys since it has a dogshit ending just like the show despite what detractors for the show ending might claim. The zoomers that like this meme just all call themselves larpers that only watch these particular edits.
>>741508486>take the time to dig out the proper contact information and e-mail completely sensible suggestions and feedback that would make the game better>receive AI/jeet response from outsourced support and nothing ever happens
>>741535165kek reminds me when I reported a couple issues on Halo MCC with video of the issue and explanation. Still there to this day
>send feedback to 4chan mods on IRC chat>they listen to itAnd just like that, I saved my general from being permanently moved to /trash/
>>741508930Literally path of exile 2. Not me, but retarded zoom faggots just turned the game into a generic ARPG about mowing down hundreds of mobs every second when 0.1 had some sort of personality
>>741509389>game dev wants to make game betterpic extremely unrelated?
>>741508930>game dev listens to your review>somehow completely misunderstands everything you said and makes a shitty update
>write review and mention problem>dev completely fucks the game's code and their backups while trying to fix it
>>741508930Mordhau. It wasnt my reviews though it was the sweats
>>741510967All too often
>>741534001Destiny's fanbase is extremely retarded and full of gambling addicts. The series should have ended before the first """"expansion pack"""" (overpriced DLC) dropped. They are addicted to what the game could be vs what it actually is.If I had a nickle for every time I heard "dude destiny is good now they fixed everything" I'd be very rich.
>write a diagnostic review of the state of the game and its developers/publishers >nothing changes, if anything things get worse
>>741534380zoomers literally consume all media through tiktok edits, and this was the most popular onelike, they don't watch movies, play games, read comics/manga. they watch tiktok edits of those then act like fans and discuss the media online
>>741535545in 0.1 I was running around at 1000% movement speed with tempest flurry and 1shotting the screen
>>741515704Based
>>741515779Poor guy. He should’ve known about the faggots before he arrived
>>741516207Kisseff is so used to his hugbox it really disturbs me how delicate he is, he has no mature way to handle critical assessment or criticism he just has a melt down. This seems to be the case with all furries, they are extremely emotionally fragile. Feels absolutely vulgar, I remember having to console him with common sense advice like ‘take a fucking break’ and all this, suddenly it was just a wave of people echoing that sentiment and only when someone else repeated it did he understand. Dumb faggot
>>741517092You are a faggot. I dont make games for faggots. I want to hear what people have to say, critique makes the product better for the audience. You and your shit opinion need to die quickly
>>741534380It's a combination of general fandom culture, Invincible wobble edits, and 'larp' culture. Fandoms just like animated music videos or fancams of their content. In the Invincible community, people would make fanmade motion comics from the comic by making them move poorly which got flanderized into them wobbling, thus 'wobble edit' became a term for this kind of editing. LARPing has been taken by zoomers to mean being a fake fan or poser of something, specifically repeating or talking about something you've never seen, so this edit has been spread around as a bit since no one has read the comics.
>>741518638From my experience he changed the meta to be vehicle based and rockets were shit. Sometimes i was the only one running AA missiles on the entire server. It was a total bitch. And NC guns were busted because of the higher damage output favouring the connection issues more (that said my minigun didnt give much of a shit LOL)
>>741537121that was in the end game, now even in act 1 the game feels so much faster and arcadey. Count Geonor is an absolute cakewalk now compared to how he was in 0.1
>>741522334Too many people like you exist>>741523062Identity politics ARE real and society is performative
>>741523546Much wisdom is the result of much suffering
>>741537365>I want more moneyThat's all you had to say
>>741524119You gotta filter the useless out from the useful, if its trash then discern it as trash. Review the reviews. Lol
>>741533956Cognitive dissonance, hate to see it
>>741508486>dev listens to the discord server
>>741535165>>741535227Big companies dont make changes unless its sweeping sentiment
>>741537706I think you might have misread what I said
>>741534273>>741534079>>741534152>>741534175Stop resending
>>741518213nortubel
>>741508486>game dev listens to your review>it gets worseif whoever just asked the Project Silverfish devs to add basebuilding is reading this, fuck you.
>>741509636>Play NTR game>Get cucked by the devsyodawg.webp
>>741508486Never happens. Reviewers are assholes. So is that character.
>>741508930I just know this is going to happen to Balatro, because sweaty neets with 1,500 hours logged can only complain "lmao blue seals and high card are too le good"Completely ingoring the fact Balatro goes from fun to RNG dog shit once you hit blue stake. You get a lucky shop and lucky tarot packs to beat the game, because if you don't it's literally impossible to win with dogshit jokers like perishable castle or eternal egg. Cool poker hands like flushes and straights become unwinnable and you NEED meme combos because of the scaling meme. At least it's playable in the sense you can chesse it, we all know damn well Balatro 1.1 or whatever the update is will be the most polarizing indie game update ever.
>gamedev listens to the /vg/ thread
>game dev reads your review>replies with your full name and address with a date
>>741518213Nargothrond
>>741508930>starts actively catering towards youtubenigs and streamerfags>game turns to shitLike pottery
>game dev listens to autists that take the game too seriously>game gets 10x worse
>>741528032> dev updates game backend 7 years after last update with no effect on gameplay but completely breaks 90% of mods
>>741528032Taleworlds and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>741538656Hey, Minecraft didn't end being that bad.
>>741539052???