Should a fangame have a protagonist that resembles the tone of the original game's protag? If the base game has a silent player character, should the fangame replicate that? Or would it be good to try to expand the idea by giving the character a more defined personality? Would that be seen as too much of a departure from the base game? Even if the game's official sequel does try to do something new with the main character?
I think it's good for them to explore a different kind of protagonist, while trying to find some of the heart of the original game.Clover was a lot more fleshed out than frisk, but the game still left a lot of ambiguity for players to explore afterwards for instance.
>>741588871Also Applies to Val. Vals got noticeably more personality, and there's that dialogue that is ambiguously his, but I think there's still going to be a lot of things that are just not directly answered with him, again giving people the room to explore ideas.
>>741588663Fangames are designed by and for terminal autists with zero taste or understanding of deep story telling. Sans with a gun
>>741588663I think generally speaking it's good to try and do new and different things, but it's also important to make sure that those things themselves still feel like they work within the general realm of what came before, in and out of universe.For example, Val there is definitely different from Frisk, he has more of his own personality that we get to see more frequently, but he's still a mute little freak that operates entirely according to his own internal ideals that very few other people seem to be able to understand, so that lines him up perfectly with all the official UTDR humans we've seen so far, all but one of which have been ideologically-charged silent weirdos, and the thing that makes the "but one" stand out is just the fact that they actually speak.So, he's a good protagonist for a UT fangame.
there's probably some value in just going all out, making it a hilarious departure from the tone of the original.
>>741588871>I think it's good for them to explore a different kind of protagonist, while trying to find some of the heart of the original game.I'm trying to think of fangames were the main character is radically different from the the original game but I'm drawing a blank right now, I think Lisa has fangames like that.>Clover was a lot more fleshed out than frisk, but the game still left a lot of ambiguity for players to explore afterwards for instance.I liked how Clover had a clear goal since the start, that alone differentiates him a lot from Frisk, even if he was still mostly a silent protagonist, he had those moments where you could see his personality like in the flawed pacifist ending.
>>741588663>valreminds me of Mugen's Kung Fu Man
>>741589310Don't disagree with the autism part but some fangames can be better than official material (coughpokemoncough)Sure most are trash but there are a few gems there
>>741589660>coughpokemoncoughNTA, but come on, like that's a high bar to cross.
>>741589386>I liked how Clover had a clear goal since the start, that alone differentiates him a lot from Frisk, even if he was still mostly a silent protagonist, he had those moments where you could see his personality like in the flawed pacifist ending.I think for all of yellows flaws and virtues, they nailed it perfectly in how much they chose to characterize Clover. >I'm trying to think of fangames were the main character is radically different from the the original game but I'm drawing a blank right nowI know there are some but I'm also coming up short here.
>>741589372I think you can have UT/DR fangames where the protagonists speaks without it feeling too out of place, in Deltarune Susie is pretty much a protagonist and she talks all the time, so while I like the weirdo humans we have, one talkative human could work, as always it would depend on execution more than anything, if the character talks too much or has an obnoxious personality then I would prefer a silent protagonist
Reposting just the Luzma whilk image for the end of the weekend, for anyone who missed it.https://files.catbox.moe/8sr3rl.pngAlmost done with another image of Luzma, this time with abs. Hopefully I'll have that done before too long.
>>741589785>I think you can have UT/DR fangames where the protagonists speaks without it feeling too out of place, in Deltarune Susie is pretty much a protagonist and she talks all the timeMaybe, but Susie isn't directly controlled by us, so her speaking feels less jarring than if Kris was talking by themselves all the time.>one talkative human could work, as always it would depend on execution more than anything, if the character talks too much or has an obnoxious personality then I would prefer a silent protagonistI'd say you're probably right on execution, but I feel like there would be an inherent tone shift in having the protagonist actually speak in general, even if they were written well.
>>741589717>I think for all of yellows flaws and virtues, they nailed it perfectly in how much they chose to characterize Clover.I would have liked to know a bit more of Clover's past if I'm being honest, but I guess what we got of him is better than them overdoing it and adding a tragic backstory near the end of the game
>>741590072>I would have liked to know a bit more of Clover's past if I'm being honestwell that's fair, even if I personally don't. I enjoy those things being left very open so I can insert my own autism into all of it, and I've gone through like 5 different ideas for how his past could have worked out.
Deltatraveler works by having characters nothing like any of the games, though the way it "works" may be a bit differently than intended.
>>741589310>Sans with a gunI'm glad that era of Undertale fangames has mostly ended
Could use more bird characters. racters mom when.
>>741588663What would inmediatly make you hate a fangame protagonist?
>>741591398Here's your bird character bro
>>741591405bioware level "hi so I'm nonbinary" type of writing. If I somehow missed that before loading up the game, I'd delete it in an instant.
>>741591863In this fandom that's a real possibility, even if the chance is small
>>741591757threads wouldn't be safe if that design was in a game. the one anon, possibly you, would be out of control.
>>741591929I worry a little about cooking with kindness. It already has a few awkward moments, and there's that one image of course.
>>741591931>the one anonWho?
>>741592120whoever it was that was lusting after the cocky cock when it was first posted.
>>741592009I don't think it will happen, even if the demo already contains that dialogue that implies the shark dude used to be a girl, which is confirmed by "that one image"
>>741592268Oh, yeah.
>>741591931>>741592268The monster version of Val is too hot to exist, somehow hotter than the monster made of fire
>>741589842Her back must hurt from carrying those heavy whilk bags
>>741592828Don't worry, I can hold them for her.
>>741588663One of the fangames with the most potential died and we didn't even get to know anything about the main character
>>741593532>most potentialAlright, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
>>741591398I don't, however long it takes me to make that part of the game.
>>741593532A doc will be published soon™ so we might learn what it was going to be about
>>741591405this >>741591863 or a sufficiently ugly design.
>>741588663I think it depends on the specifics of your fangame and execution of the concept.
>>741593651Legitimately curious, how ugly is "sufficiently ugly"?Do intentionally ugly designs count too, if the character is supposed to look unappealing?
>>741593651yeah seconding >>741593741Are we talking about just ugly like the character is supposed to be ugly or ugly as in
>>741593532>shows off tons of art>no actual gameplay>swears the demo is almost done>diesThe fate of many.Too bad that panda girl probably isn't old enough to drink, otherwise she could've at least gotten a little tribute in that bar idea people keep throwing around here.
>>741593741>Do intentionally ugly designs count too, if the character is supposed to look unappealing?I think anon meant something like pic related.
>>741593840>pictureOh, god no, not like that.I was actually thinking like, "Paradigm" ugly or something, something intentionally fucked-up looking.
>>741589310>Sans with a gunAre you doubting Nintendo's design choices?
>>741591757Here's another bird character for you.Monster bird Clover, thanks to Martlet.https://files.catbox.moe/huummz.png
>>741593919Ah yes, those things.I swear, people here wouldn't be so harsh on Asgore if this is what the other fallen humans canonically looked like.
>>741594116My favorite part of this design is how it doesn't look like Clover in the slightest were it not for him somehow still having his outfit after having his soul harvested.
>>741594116>https://files.catbox.moe/huummz.pngyou don't have to catbox things if they don't have something nsfw inside
>>741589386>I'm trying to think of fangames were the main character is radically different from the the original game but I'm drawing a blank right nowEntropy Zero has a very vocal protagonist compared to Half-Life's famously silent one. I think it worked great in EZ 1, but they ran it into the ground with Marvel dialogue in the sequel.
>>741589468I have to wonder if it was intentional
>>741594236How exactly would a monster Clover look like human Clover appearance wise, when his entire body would literally be transformed into something else?
>>741594280Sometimes it's good to play it safe. You can never really know with this site.
>>741594463Body language, mannerisms, facial expression, etc.Shit's pretty important to making a character feel like themself, and that's all shit that drawfag's lacking in, like how he always draws Martlet with a weirdly morose expression and body language that doesn't fit her at all.
>>741593592*I don't know
>>741593587It could have potentially been good, but now we will never know
>>741594737Maybe, but that doesn't mean it had "the most potential", it was *only* potential, nothing actually concrete.I don't feel like making a "potential fangame" meme edit right now, you get the idea.
>>741591405I almost launched into a tirade about shitty RPG protagonists but Undertale type games can't really make those mistakes because the protagonists are a silent mask for the player. How annoying can you be when you can't talk or move? The man behind the screen calls the shots. Even if you gave me the weakest, emptiest, and ugliest protagonist I don't think it'd matter much if the world and characters are good
>>741593532It had only the illusion of potential. It was never going anywhere with that lead dev.
>>741593741like these >>741593840 >>741593919 or just any design that turns me off enough to not want to play as it.
>>741594818>>741594892I was saying it as part of the meme, the guy apparently finished 85% of a full area demo in a year, same year in which he learned to code, we don't know how much progress he had actually made, even if I wanted to have faith in the project, things weren't looked good since the guy never uploaded a single video showing gameplay.
>>741593853She could be aged up in there.
>>741594646nta If your entire biology was changed to were your appearance looks nothing like how it was previously, it would be pretty much impossible for them to look how did they did.Everything would look different, even if the character was using the same expressions, mannerisms etc...
>>741595021>aging a character up for non nefarious purposeswe're pioneering new ideas around here.
>>741593919Do you think any of those humans could have found a monster gf/bf? or would monsters run in fear from how ugly they were? I'm now imagining a fangame with a love interest and one of these ugly kids as the main character
>>741595021>>741595093She's aged up but works as a hooker on the bar
>>741595093There's nothing nefarious about inter-species love.
>>741594236Why would a monster Clover look anything like his human self? That's kind of the point, he's meant to look completely different.
Humans are maybe gonna be real in two days.
>>741595202I'm just talking about how normally when people age characters up, it's to lewd them, not to give them a memorial service.
>>741595037Signirsol drew a bird version of Clover, and he made him still feel like himself.A character's mannerisms, personality, body language, their *character*, is what makes them who they are, and if you can't rightly convey that even when their visual design's all fucked around with, then you don't get what makes that character actually work.And don't give me that shit about "they can draw what they want", that drawfag asks for proper feedback and criticism every time they come around here, so no fucking kid gloves.
>>741595202>There's nothing nefarious about inter-species love.There is however something nefarious about yuri ships
>>741595210So why's he got the same fuckin' outfit then you twat?
>>741595113Maybe they date the mouth monster from Grillby's
>>741595308He still likes cowboys.
>>741595252So what are some Clover mannerisms?
>>741595468Poker face
>>741595468More blank expression, beadier eyes, straighter stance, etc.
>>741594868What if they talk like in Deltatraveler?
STOP SPAMMING THESE SHIT THREADSFUCK OFFYOU HAVE YOUR "GENERAL" ON >>>/VRPG/YOU RAID /V/ WEEKLY FOR NO GODDAMN REASON WITH THIS REPETITIVE TRASHFUCK YOUSTAY THE FUCK THERE
>>741595372I see, ugly humans are meant for ugly monsters, maybe one of them gets to date Jerry
>>741595252Kinda sounds like you just like Sig's bird Clover more than the other design of him, because from what I saw with Sig's bird Clover, the same criticism your using could also be used there.
>>741595712NTA but Sig's bird Clover has those mannerisms in this pic
>>741595712I don't care for either in particular, but if we're talking about understanding the characters, yeah, Sig did that shit better, and he hasn't got the terminal case of same-face syndrome either.
>>741595621I feel Clover's mannerisms depend on the route itself, because I imagine Pacifist Clover to be a lot more expressive than Neutral.This is without mention all the flavour text that describe the kind of faces that Clover has on his face, as well as his body language.
less than 3 days until all UT human headcanons are destroyed (unless toby is a coward and the flowers won't be individual darkners)
>>741588663Would be rather hypocritical for me to say "Yes" considering the MC of my fangame is literally nothing like either Kris or reimu.
>>741596020 Sorry pal but we already came up with a cope to counter those flowers in case they do exists, the human souls used to be actual humans in Undertale, so the flowers in Deltarune would just be darkners unrelated to the fallen humans
>>741595874nta Clover's literally smiling in that pic though, that's not really a blank expression.
>>741596020have fun when he makes hard confirmed human designs and I still champion the cause of clover val and cole.
>>741596126Pretty sure the bigger issue is that there's zero basis for people just suddenly deciding they hate the characters from the fan games because they're "not canon depictions", nobody here really has that as a hardline expectation, except maybe the guy developing Oldentale which is just turning him to stone.
>>741596020Nah, it's gonna be this.
>>741595881>but if we're talking about understanding the characters, yeah, Sig did that shit betterIn what sense? Both artists essentially did the same thing, just in different ways.Only one bird Clover design, is more, well, bird like than the other bird Clover design.
>>741596262>nobody here really has that as a hardline expectationbut outside of here?I don't really worry about it, but it will be pretty annoying to hear people dismiss some of these characters because "they don't fit with the canon"
>>741595468Doesn't Clover's mannerisms change depending on the route though?Drawing him smiling or with a neutral expression on his face would both be accurate.
>>741596432>but outside of here?not really no, people who dislike fan interpretations just didn't engage with them in the first place.
>>741594236Looks like Clover to me. He's just a birb now.
>>741596262>except maybe the guy developing OldentaleMy game's a lot more dependent on the Undertale plot than other people's.>which is just turning him to stone.Wait, am I a darkner?
>>741596432>but outside of here?The hypocrites that haven't played the official game and wouldn't play it regardless? Why would they matter? Games are meant to be played.
>>741594456Just a coincidence, but that's to be expected, Kung Fu Man is meant to look like a generic martial artist hero.I made Val to look like an average bravery soul, there were a few other inspirations for his design, but even the tied jacket (which I feel is Val's most unique design feature) is something that I saw in two other designs for the orange soul.
>>741596432Counterpoint:Do you really think the dude that cries about "yellowfags" is someone who's opinion you would or should ever value?
>>741596432>I don't really worry about it, but it will be pretty annoying to hear people dismiss some of these characters because "they don't fit with the canon"we hear that with clover constantly and clover is and forever will be our jaundice.
>>741597356That Roba's snout is too short I thought that was Kanako
>>741597659yellow already has a life of its own, even if a canon yellow soul depiction appears it won't destroy the little universe UTY made for itself
i feel like doodling, anyone got any requests?
>>741597941Honestly why I can't get into Yellow.
>>741597973Martlet giving Anon a big hug.
>>741597973Guardener with legs, she's lacking fanarts
>>741597973DRYkanako being jealous of sadie's big breasts
>>741597973Val slapping Quetzali's ass with the spare particles coming from the point of impact
>>741597973I'm always happy to see more stuff featuring everyone's favourite Zartlet.
>>741597973Cole from Deltarune Yellow seeing Zenith Martlet for the first time?
>>741597973Bird Clover asking Martlet for one of her feathers to put in his hat.
>>741597973Ceroba has breast envy towards Martlet because of her big breasts, and double the breast envy towards Zenith Martlet because of her really big breasts.
>>741597973Sequel to the image were Kanako's about to give Cole his birthday present, and he's stuck in the same room as her for hours.
>>741597973A collection of edgelords from Undertale, Deltarune, and the fangames. Flowey/Asriel, Kris, that one bird from CWK, Luzma, and Darkblade.
>>741597973How about your version of Bird Clover meeting this version >>741594116 of bird Clover
>>741588663a fangame's protagonist should be some autist's self-insert but it should be done well
>>741597463So in a way, he's a fusion of all the bravery souls. Val truly is the strongest.Also what's with the anime guy? What's he from?
>>741599070The self insert should be split between the main human, and genderbent as the best girl. Just like Deltarune.
>>741599027I second this, I'm all for two different bird Clover's interacting with each other.
>>741597973Pregnant Martlet.
>>741599070I'm still terrified I turned the secondary protagonist into my self insert.
Putting this here because why not
>>741599352>wiki after getting a taste of power (she was on top once)
>>741599260Who?
>>741599352What Anon thinks of Wiki after hearing the term "malcontent"
>>741599596Haven't released the thing yet, obviously. But he shares a lot in common with me.
>>741597973Pregnant Ceroba, Pregnant Martlet, Pregnant Kanako, Pregnant, Quetzali, Pregnant Luzma, Pregnant Bedo, Pregnant Wiki and Pregnant KitsyPretty Please
>>741599763Have you shown the fangame here at least?
>>741597973I’d like to see Ms. Syrup covered in syrup
>>741599727I don't remember if that was the word used back then, but whatever it was, that initial description put a very strange idea of her in my head.Now that I think about it, Oldentale anon saying what he said to me is like if someone gave those photos of "Homelander" eating babies to someone else instead.
>>741599986the original word was "malicious", spawning a whole conversation about word associations.
>>741600031Yeah, that.I remember the rest of it, I was the guy talking about what that made me think of her back then.I stand by what I initially said, for the most part.I'd be on the defensive for a bit after that, until I got an explanation. I wouldn't be hostile or anything, but it'd be like that bit in Rubyquest after Tom sees the footage of Ruby murdering him.Just a little on edge, you know.
>>741597973Since we never got a drawing of RtF Mooch I was wondering if you could draw a design of her, maybe doing the ojou laugh
To whoever it was who said they wanted me to draw Luzma with more defined abs instead of just having a toned tummy when I drew her a few months back, I have nearly completed such a thing, and am hoping to have it done for this thread.
>>741597463Why the hell does that first one have a red trenchcoat, were they supposed to be a fucking devil hunter or something?
>>741600696But we only see a Wii in Kanako's room, and I'm pretty sure Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't backwards compatible from the Gamecube to the Wii.
>>741600827chujin, in his infiinite scientificness, reverse engineered it or something.alternatively I think some models of the wii could do it.
>>741600696>Kanako is a huge fan of Shadow the Hedgehog>Chujin hates SonicThe evidence grows stronger by the moment
kanako is for FAGGOTS
>>741600827Are there games that aren't backwards compatible on the Wii? I thought its internals were literally just a Gamecube with a faster CPU. Anyways, I see videos of people playing it on Wii on youtube.
>>741601214I thought the Wii only had selective backwards compatibility, but I guess I might be wrong.
>>741601264This gif was only posted last night and I've already lost gallons to it.What if she pressed against her shirt so hard that her breasts burned straight through it on accident?
>>741601087Toby...
I want to get into drawing, but I fear what I draw is going to suck, and look bad to others.Like even if I spend a lot of time on the drawing, it will still be bad somehow.
>>741601490everyone has to start somewhere anonjust draw and see where it takes you
>>741601490>I want to get into drawing, but I fear what I draw is going to suckit will at first and that's fine. It will be infinitely better than if you didn't try at all.
>>741601490It almost certainly will when you start out.Everyone is shit at drawing when they first start. Its a skill that you have to build through hard work and practice.
>>741601490That is a legitimate fear, some artists really do get "stuck" with an art style that looks pretty bad, but if you never try, you'll never be anything at all.You have to be willing to suck in order to be good.Take it from me, I used to fucking suck at drawing, and now I only sorta suck at it.Progress takes time, but just because you sucked once, doesn't mean you'll suck forever.Give it a shot sometime, even if it's just a little doodle here and there. It could turn into something great, if you just keep at it.
>>741601689Even the one on the right is pretty old by this point.
>>741601846Yes, but those images were made only a month apart, which is my point.Incremental progress, it takes some time.
>>741601334>What if she pressed against her shirt so hard that her breasts burned straight through it on accident?Accideltal exposure or the underground's most creative striptease
>>741601490Nobody's ever good at anything to begin with, not anything that takes actual skill.What you make to start off with might not look good, but you learn through failing and seeking to improve yourself after the fact.
>>741601490I can assure you you're not alone on something like this.Everyone is their own worst critic, so it can feel like something you've worked hard on still looks bad. I've been there.Take it from me, when drawing something, focus on the enjoyment and process, rather than the end. It's important that you enjoy yourself and have fun. Try not to focus on the does it look good aspects of drawing.When you start, naturally you'll feel like comparing yourself to others, but rest assured we all started that way.Just draw whatever comes to mind, and have fun with it. Over time you'll discover what works for you and go from there.Want to draw Ceroba? Draw her. Want to draw Martlet? Draw her. Draw whoever you want, however you wish.
>>741602249I think it would be hot if she did that on purpose to mess with her anon, but maybe she should use a shirt she doesn't care about for that instead, so she doesn't burn through all her cool graphic tees.Literally, even.Also, since I remember the topic being brought up with Bedo at one point, I feel like it makes sense that Luzma wouldn't wear a bra or anything like that, seems unnecessary for her.
Undertale Yellow is softcore furry porn trash. Also you have not one but two generals on /vg/.
>>741602373Why wouldn't Luzma wear a bra?
>>741602685Does she need to?Seems like she mostly just wears that chestplate of hers, which covers up everything pretty nicely already.Plus, if she can just demat her vagina so she doesn't have to actually cover anything up down there, maybe she can do that to her "whilk bags" too, dematerializing her nipples or something.And besides all that, it would just be very sexy if she didn't, so I rest my case.
>>741602351Do you have the Ceroba and Martlet unbirth game overs with Flowey commentary in video format?I can only ever find them as gifs.
>>741602351nta but you and other anons encouraged me to draw over this last week and I didn't draw for shit. The writing autism got me and I completely forgot to give it a swing mild feelings of guilt, but I'll still get around to it.>>741601689and speaking of, I remember when I first came to the threads, you showed line work of one of these dreadful images to help give me some pointers, which I still appreciate even though I never made any progress.I really oughta try drawing again
>>741602929>you showed line work of one of these dreadful images to help give me some pointersHeh, stuck with you, eh?>which I still appreciate even though I never made any progress.Well, if you ever do try your hand at drawing again, I'd love to see what comes of it, and I'd be happy to give you any more pointers or advice if you need it.
>>741603181>Well, if you ever do try your hand at drawing again, I'd love to see what comes of it, and I'd be happy to give you any more pointers or advice if you need it.I'll definitely pester the threads and you when I do give it another try. I have a lot of difficulty connecting objects in my mind and just need to work past whatever autistic fixation is causing that. I know construction is the key but I get mentally stuck on that for some reason.>Heh, stuck with you, eh?at the time you said something like "don't worry about the greater context of this image" and so I didn't, and still have avoided seeing the whole image, though I do "at least" know the context by now.
>>741602808If her boobs are that big she might need a sports bra when she's wearing her armor
>>741603302>I have a lot of difficulty connecting objects in my mind and just need to work past whatever autistic fixation is causing that. I know construction is the key but I get mentally stuck on that for some reason.Ah, makes sense.This sort of thing comes a little more naturally to me now, since I've had a lot of experience putting things together while studying engineering, so I view art with a bit of an odd perspective about things.If you're having trouble, I'd recommend getting something like those little grey posing figures for drawing, they're good for wrapping your head around complex poses and anatomy like that.>at the time you said something like "don't worry about the greater context of this image" and so I didn't, and still have avoided seeing the whole image, though I do "at least" know the context by now.Mm, yes, I remember that.If it's any consolation, my other work is much less "dreadful" in that particular sense, at least according to some people here, so I hope I didn't completely scare you off or anything.
>>741603469Nah, she'll just have one of those form fitting chestplates that outlines her boobs completely, works just as well.Plus, I bet it would get sweaty in there, having her chest pressing against her armor like that.Don't you want sweaty whilk bags?
>>741603568>If you're having trouble, I'd recommend getting something like those little grey posing figures for drawingI'll look into it, though I've heard the ones you can generally get in local stores are usually cheap and trash.but thanks as before for the advice. I tried to get around it last time, but every time I'd try to construct a body, it would just be this empty space in my mind. I don't have aphantasia or anything, if anything my headspace is extremely visual, but it's just blanks out like I'm standing in my own way when I try to draw. I'll give it a shot again soon(tm). >so I hope I didn't completely scare you off or anything.not at all, I think I've been with the threads for going on a year now. Just got some encouragement to try drawing again recently and started thinking about the previous attempt.
>>741603638She can get sweaty with a bra on too
>>741602820I could have sworn I uploaded the video versions, but I guess I didn't.In any case here they are. Better late than never.Ceroba pregnant with Clover game over:https://files.catbox.moe/poozy3.mp4Martlet pregnant with Clover game over:https://files.catbox.moe/bj1pg1.mp4
>>741603820>I'll look into it, though I've heard the ones you can generally get in local stores are usually cheap and trash.Probably, but I got myself some pretty cheap ones off amazon, and they're still pretty useful, so I'd say even low-quality ones are still better than nothing.Unless you happen to have an hourglass figure and massive breasts so you can just take photos of yourself for reference for drawing women or something, in which case you have the mandate of heaven.>I tried to get around it last time, but every time I'd try to construct a body, it would just be this empty space in my mind. I don't have aphantasia or anything, if anything my headspace is extremely visual, but it's just blanks out like I'm standing in my own way when I try to draw.Hm.Well, I do have some advice for visualizing things when you're having trouble, but it really depends on what you're drawing, so my advice on that front may not apply.>I'll give it a shot again soon(tm). I'll be looking forward to it.>not at all, I think I've been with the threads for going on a year now. Just got some encouragement to try drawing again recently and started thinking about the previous attempt.Oh, I moreso meant that I'd hoped I hadn't left an impression as some kind of merchant of horror or anything, but that's good too.I remember giving some advice to an anon somewhat recently actually, so maybe I was one of the ones who encouraged you again.
>>741603921Okay yeah, but that doesn't mean she *needs* one.Plus, it'd also be hotter while she's wearing just the shirt, having her whilk jugs loose like that.
>>741604070>Unless you happen to have an hourglass figure and massive breastsThere are no w*men in these threads
>>741604052Do you really need to name/avatar fag on every post you make?Give it a rest already.
>>741604260What if he's a gruff, grizzled old man, who still happens to have an hourglass figure and massive breasts?World's a big place, you don't know.
>>741604324You can't just bombard people with mental images like that
>>741604395I'm just sayin', maybe what I said really does apply to that anon.
>>741604279I'd rather people know it's me, so you can always expect a name. I post an image when I'm uploading something, or making a post that I feel warrants it.
>>741604070>Probably, but I got myself some pretty cheap ones off amazon, and they're still pretty useful,yeah that's fair, might order one next time I get paid and just, see if it does something to my brain signals. Scenes picture pretty vividly when I'm writing, but the moment I say I'm going to draw, the bodies in my mind go full rayman mode but worse, so it's probably just some mental hiccup I'm trapping myself in and by not sitting down and grinding it away, I'm not getting myself past it.>Oh, I moreso meant that I'd hoped I hadn't left an impression as some kind of merchant of horror or anything, but that's good too.just one of the many 'unique' sets of taste that anons here have.
>>741604504Fine, the name makes sense at least, but if you're gonna attach an image whenever you're posting something, shouldn't it be actually related to what you're posting, and not just random art from other people?It's obnoxious.
>>741604279Dude don't try to make a big deal out of something this miniscule.Are you being for real right now?
>>741604540>Scenes picture pretty vividly when I'm writing, but the moment I say I'm going to draw, the bodies in my mind go full rayman mode but worse, so it's probably just some mental hiccup I'm trapping myself in and by not sitting down and grinding it away, I'm not getting myself past it.Yeah, that happens sometimes.Having a reference like one of those figures can help make your mental images a lot more cohesive, makes actually putting it to paper (or the screen) a lot easier to manage.>just one of the many 'unique' sets of taste that anons here have.Well, I just mean it's not actually something I do too often, is all.
>>741604630nta but, namefagging and avatar fagging have been a pet peeve of Anons on this website since the early 2000's. It's not so bad since that Anon isn't spamming with it but, It's not really weird for him to be bothered by it some.
>>741604587You know Sig literally does the same thing, only without a name.
>>741604709>Well, I just mean it's not actually something I do too often, is all.I know, I know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-e3-6CVn0
>>741604630I'm not "making a big deal" out of it, I'm just saying it's fuckin' annoying, and it is.Christ, you say fuckin' anything even slightly negative about this guy and his own personal defense squad comes in to save him from the cruelty of minor criticism.That anon a while back was right, no one defends anyone as much as this fuckin' guy, it's insane.
>>741602685Her tits are light as air.
>>741604774Sig posts without a name or image often enough, making himself known when he's doing something relevant to who he is.and honestly martlet drawanon may be doing the same thing, I'm willing to believe he drops the name if he engages in unrelated discussion.
>>741604774Not on every damn post he doesn't.I saw Signirsol posting normally a while back, only way you could tell it was him was the fact that he was taking questions about a drawing he was workin' on that he'd wanted thoughts on, meanwhile this guy makes sure to attach some Martlet drawing he didn't even make to just random posts with nothing even in 'em.It's avatarfagging, and it's just ridiculous.
saw someones idea for a battle network undertale hybrid fangame in one of the threads a while back. shame it doesn't seem to have gone anywhere.
>>741604834Lighter, possibly.Remember, heat rises.Unless they're being weighed down by all that whilk.
>>741605078Huh, neat.I never played Battle Network, how would this have played?
>>741604824You do act like a hostile asshole, so it seems only natural people are going to get hostile back. Especially when its towards one of the better contributors to the threads.
>>741602373>>741604834>Luzma guides your hand to her chest with the shirt on>They feel extra soft, like touching an air bag>She presses her shirt so hard it burns against her skin>All the while she smiles smugly
>>741605078What was the basis of the idea? Like how would it work?
>>741605130I'm not 100 percent sure, but I think the SP bars are battle network style timers before you can choose another item or power to unleash on the battle field against the other opponent. I was a bit tired by the time I found the post but the anon confirmed at the time that battle network was the inspiration.you can see the little squares at the bottom which are likely battle networks styled abilities that are queued up to be used next.
>>741605245How old is this?
>>741605156Oh, I swear a bit, that's got you pissin' your pants?I don't give a damn if he contributes or not, don't mean I can't call him out on anything, especially since avatarfagging goes against site rules, and he does it so fuckin' always.
>>741605130Nta, but in battlenetwork both players have a limited number of tiles they can move to, you can attack your enemy directly by lineing uo your character and shooting, besides moving and shooting the players have access to cards/chips which can be used to perform more complex attcks, apply buffs/debuffs or take tile space from the other playerI imagine the multiplayer soul idea plays the same, except the players have free movement and no tiles, and the cards summon bullet patterns
>>741604824nta In this case, it did kind of feel like you were trying to start something, over something pretty small.Like I can understand if the anon was spamming it to heck and back, but he never did that.And like another anon pointed out minus the name Sig pretty much does the same thing.You're not going to convince anyone you don't have a problem or making a big deal out of something, if you keep making posts like the ones you make.You come across as someone unnecessarily hostile for almost no reason.
>>741605165Hope she's not pressing against your hand that hard, jeez.
>>741605221I don't think he clarified much unless he talked about it more in the thread without images (was mostly scanning for greens when the images caught my attention) but I saw that it was supposed to be battle network inspired.also I said SP might be the new ability meter, but I think that's wrong because it has a turn bar like battle network, so i'm not sure what the SP was for.>>741605304I want to say early 2024.
>>741605317nta It's not just the swearing, you come across as just a hostile asshole in general.
>>741605339I'm not "starting" shit, I'm sayin' knock it off.And no, Sig don't always do that shit, he actually posts normally without needing to announce his presence like he's fuckin' royalty.
>>741605397>I want to say early 2024.yeah in fact I found it again, but there's nothing more than the 2 images, the file names making it obvious that it's UTBN and UTBNPVE.either way, would be interesting to see in action.
>>741605429Yeah, maybe I do, but that don't invalidate my point.All I said was "give it a rest" to start with, and then I got jumped by the cunt's personal blowjob brigade, damn fuckin' right I'm gonna be an asshole about it if I can't even tell a cunt to quit being so full of himself without half the thread jumpin' down my throat.
>>741605317Yes, you act like an ass in what was previously a nice thread. I don't even believe you're a genuine poster. I think you just post like this specifically to start fights because you enjoy ruining nice things. As such none of what you said can be taken seriously.In short, nobody's listening to you and everyone thinks you're a faggot.
>>741605245Huh, interesting.So, was this an actual project that was meant to be in development at any point, or was it just a concept someone wanted to throw out there?
>>741605551>but that don't invalidate my point.Nta but it really does. Makes you come across as either an asshole with a grudge, in which case literally anything he does would be an issue in your eyes, or it makes you look like a troll, in which case everything you say is bullshit meant to start fights.And you were an asshole first, and have been asshole every time you come here to get mad about him posting. Makes it hard for anyone to believe a word of what you say.
>>741605640at least in that thread the anon just dropped the images with little explanation from what I can see. I'll keep an eye out for mentions of it in my next archive crawl, but I think it may have just been ideas in the moment.
>>741605583Awful lot of people rushin' to yell at me for no one listening, cunt.Like I said, all I started with was tellin' the bloke to give it a rest, and everyone started pilin' on me for daring to speak outta line.I'm only bein' a cunt because you lot started it.
>>741605551Nothing you say can be taken seriously. You are the only person here who's actively going out of their way to stir up something over nothing.
>>741605728You cunts were the one's going apeshit over me sayin' "give it a rest", you lot stirred this pot, not me.
>>741605640>>741605697IIRC that was just a concept someone threw around, not something that was meant for a game in development
>>741605720No one's listening as in no one believes you or is treating anything you say as valid criticism. And you started it by being an ass. This isn't even the second time you've done this. You were an ass in your original post and in the previous threads you did this in.Get over your grudge and just fuck off.
Why is the shitposter larping as Billy Butcher?
>>741605697Weird.If the images were just posted with nothing substantial attached, I'd bet they were likely just proofs of concept or something, probably not really meant to indicate something real.Yeah, what (>>741605819) said, I think he's got the right idea.
>>741605819that makes sense, still felt worth sharing, was a neat idea imo.also as a side note, back then there was a version of the orange soul image with a lot less on it.
>>741605372It would be worth it for the unique experience, imagine this being the first time anon gets to touch Luzma like that
>>741588663Entropy Zero 2 is a really well made HL2 fangame and it annoyed me endlessly because the protagonist won't shut up. It just feels wrong for a Half-life protagonist to not be silent.
>>741605869Wait, is he? I've never watched the show. If he is, then I'm saying its that same troll we've had trying a new tactic. You know the one that was spamming requests before.
>>741605859I don't need a grudge to take issue with something some other cunt does, I just need an issue.Haven't said a word about his work this time, wasn't even callin' it "bad" before, but criticizin' this bloke's just off-limits according to you, and anythin' bad anyone has to say about him just gets marked as shitposting.How about that?
>>741605869I wanted to believe he's not a troll because I can understand people not liking when posters use names here, and maybe he's just autistic about how he comes across about it.but the australian typing thing doesn't do him any favors.
>>741605973I agree about EZ2, but I actually really liked Bad Cop in EZ1, which is why EZ2 Bad Cop bothered me so much. He's like a completely different person (I know he technically is, but they retcon him into always being that way in the second game). EZ 1 Bad Cop was like a Schwarzenegger movie character with his one liners, EZ2 Cop is like a Marvel character.
>>741605869Wait, wouldn't it just be rp-ing?"Larping" specifically would mean he acts like this in real life, as in, "live action role play".He's talking like him for sure, but that's not larp, that's just your regular old fashioned role play.
>>741606083people have started using larp for things like that lately I've noticed, which probably has something to do with people being terminally online and not touching grass enough to actually do a larp.
>>741606083I'm larping the word larp
>>741606083larp is generally synonymous with RP these days. At least on 4chan it is.
anyone have a good reference of gizmo's sprites in DRY?
>>741605942True, that would be nice, even if you'd need healing after the fact.And yeah, I know there's one of the fans of Luzma who likes the idea of being healed by her after doing whatever with her, but I feel like that would get tiring after a while, constantly needing medical attention, so I just assume it either stops being a problem (like becoming more resistant to fire as a damage type or something) or that she can just control it so she doesn't hurt you so often.It's a cozy idea, being cared for and healed by her, or any scrimblo, but it really just seems like a hassle to me past a certain point.Bit of a tirade there, sorry, I've just been thinking about it for a bit.
also a unique little green with some art
I wonder what happened to that Wildfire dev that used to post here?
>>741606135>>741606138>>741606140Ah, another instance of, uh.Actually, what is the term for that phenomena, when a word's meaning gets shifted to something else, or the exact opposite?Like when people use "literally" but more accurately mean "metaphorically"?Is there an actual term for that?
>>741606373honestly I'm wondering what is up with wildfire as a whole with that account thing someone brought up recently.
>>741606394>Is there an actual term for that?I'm pretty sure there is but I've got no idea what the term would be. It's common enough that I'm sure there's a word for it. It felt weird seeing larp start cropping up and get used for things that are explicitly not larping.
>>741602351Dina unbirthing Clover please.
>>741606373>>741606401The Toby ninjas got to them, Naranja anon is lucky his project isn't known outside of here, otherwise he would be lying on the same mass grave as the UTW team
>>741606373We don't actually know what's going on with them right now.One of the devs deleted all their socials, the discord server's apparently been radio silent, and they were supposed to have a playable demo out last year from what I've heard, but that fell through.So for all we know, it could just be chaos behind the scenes.
>>741606394I think the term is drift
>>741606512Maybe they're having a succession crisis behind closed doors.
>>741606539Hm.Well, I don't like that, "larp" is a pretty well-defined word, changing it to just mean "rp" is pointless.So yes, that guy's *role playing* as Butcher, but not larping.That we know of, anyway.Who knows, maybe he really does go out and kill supes, it's a big world out there.
>>741606586Oh, so it really is like the death of a khan then?Man, sounds rough.Joking aside, I'd bet it's probably just some internal issue, maybe one or two of the devs have some bad blood between them, or some other kind of personal drama that really isn't that interesting.Could just be them rearranging themselves while they sort some things out, like a succession crisis but with less bloodshed than usual.
>>741606754>like a succession crisis but with less bloodshed than usual.>not without bloodshed no, but less than the commonly accepted amount of bloodshed.
>>741606653He wouldn't kill supes, just act like he did while out in public. It he would just *be* Billy Butcher if he actually killed supes.
>>741606798Maybe those devs are willing to make heads roll over their passion project.I don't suppose you've ever heard the phrase "blood, sweat, and tears"?
>>741606874I'm imagining that being said to riley directly, as he fearfully waits in the darkness of devspace, waiting for the resolution.
>>741606853Hey, Butcher himself had to pretend to be himself sometimes, it's hard doing what he does.Emphasis on the "sometimes". Very little ever got to him, but like, once or twice he ran into something he had to steel himself for.Comic Butcher I mean, show Butcher kinda didn't care a lot of the time, except for the virus at first.
Maybe there was a Nintendo Ninja infiltration into the Wildfire dev team. They killed the ninjas, but suffered losses, which in turn lead to internal strife as they restructured.
>>741606931They let him out of devspace and he sees only a handful of developers left, standing amidst a sea of corpses, the devs who were too weak to survive.Now is the time for him to be brave.
>>741604052Dina unbirthing Clover...
>>741604052Much appreciated!
>>741599082>Also what's with the anime guy? What's he from?You mean the girl with the white hair? I don't remember the name of the orange fangame, I just grabbed the image from google.>>741600686That's Jeff from the first UTO fangame that got a demo, back when the UTY demo released if I'm not mistaken, that game was weird, it took place during the 19th century if I recall correctly.>>741601334>This gif was only posted last night and I've already lost gallons to it.Are you being serious or...?>>741602373I didn't think of Luzma's underwear until now, so that's up to you to theorize.
>>741607610>That's Jeff from the first UTO fangame that got a demo, back when the UTY demo released if I'm not mistaken, that game was weird, it took place during the 19th century if I recall correctly.Jeff.They named that Dante-bootleg "Jeff".Alright.
>>741607610>Are you being serious or...?No, no, of course not.I'm plenty virile, but I can't shoot gallons, that'd be ridiculous.>I didn't think of Luzma's underwear until now, so that's up to you to theorize.I theorize that she doesn't wear any, because that would be h-Sexy, it would be sexy of her.That's the word.
>>741607919I suppose that answers my question, I should probably take this as an achievement in my path of becoming an artist
>>741608102Hey, like I've said before, I've gotten off to just [picrel] before, my imagination has very few limits.
Shit, this thread's more than halfway through and I'm still not done with my Luzma abs drawing, dammit.I wonder when the last time I actually got a drawing done on the weekend was, I feel like it's been a few months at least.
this bird.
>>741608305That's some powerful imagination, it must be easier to do when you're in love
>>741608592is about to be midnight, even if the thread lasted 5 more hours it would no longer be on the weekend
>>741607610>You mean the girl with the white hair?That's a girl? Looks like an anime emo guy with long hair.
>>741608305For real?
>>741608613Ok, but what about this one?
>>741609230I want to be his friend and encourage him to do his best, but I want to do A LOT more to Martlet.
>>741589660pokemon does what it does well, it's meant to be an entry level jrpg. fans misunderstand it and demand complexity out of the equivalent of a kiddie poolyou should move onto something like smt if you want darker storylines or indepth mechanics
>>741609291And this one?
>>741609461I find that one funny
>>741609336I know Pokemon was always entry level but new entries babyfied it so much it is literally a snoozefest, quality has fallen down a lotThere is a reason most fangames still stick to gen 3 or so format, and it isn't just because it is easier to make
>>741604052Zenith Martlet moments before unbirthinghttps://files.catbox.moe/rbr9su.png
>>741609336I don't play Pokemon, but is it wrong for fans to make more complex Pokemon fangames if they want them? I often find myself wanting more difficulty out of my favorite games after I've played them a million times.
I have rewritten this first paragraph like 7 times god damnit.
>>741610009First paragraph of what?
>>741610035Bird smut
What's the single worst thing chapter 5 could do for fangames? (aside from send ninjas to kill all the devs irl). What's the single best thing it could do for them?
>>741610997>What's the single best thing it could do for them?a casual reference like the yellow monsters casually in the background.>What's the single worst thingdirectly personify a flower as Clover and make him have R/Y personality.
